December 3, 2024 • 41 mins
The guys are back at it this week for another episode of Doggin Tuesday! Join the crew as they cover topics from a proposed hide hunt at the White River Refuge and Bryce gets school on the pedigree of his own pup!
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Tuesday recording.
There's Bryce.
What up?
What's going on buddy?
Well just finally sitting down here for the first time in a hot minute today.
Been busy, busy, busy.
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Not enough daylight hours.
Audio sounds good for the first time.
It does.
It sounds real good.
We'll see if we can keep it up.
I don't know.
You get the goat shed done?
I got one of them done.
Nikki was going to the store to grab a couple more boards for me earlier so she didn't get
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back in time.
Brandon said where's the capital of Sorghum?
If you guys want to know the answer.
You gave it away you son of a gun.
I said if these guys want to know the answer they got to go back and listen to the next
level podcast.
Yeah I know.
I had to do it though.
I had to.
Oh oh oh oh Brandon learned something.
That's right.
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That's right.
Yeah Mark I know the life of a farmer.
It never ends.
People look at me like I'm crazy whenever they drive by and I got my Coon light on.
I'm outside in the goat pasture putting shelters, building shelters and putting stuff together
and it's 8 o'clock at night but it gets freaking dark.
Brandon White said let's give away a free bag.
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Hmm.
Oh man we can give away one.
We'll have to come up with a question.
Yeah we'll come up with a question here.
Yeah at the end of the pod we'll just keep listening.
We're going to give away a free bag at next level.
Let's do a bag of hero salute.
Sounds good.
Do a bag of hero salute and that'll be courtesy of Froggy Bottom Outdoors working hand in
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hand here.
How about this?
At next level.
How about this?
What about this?
What about Brody Julian?
Anybody that gives us a thumbs up during this podcast gets their name on a wheel.
Are you going to be the one to keep track of who's doing it?
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Well I mean you can go, as soon as we get done I can go back and see who liked, who
gave us a thumbs up or hard or you know what I mean?
Oh I got you.
I'll screenshot that list and we'll put that list of people that gave us a thumbs up during
this Dog in Tuesday Live.
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Yeah that's a good idea.
Alright so y'all gotta like this at some point during the video and be entered for a free
bag of next level hero salute coming at you courtesy of next level Brandon White.
Thank you buddy.
Alright Bascham, what's been new buddy?
Hey I have to give a shout out.
I know I commented on it but man he's going big time.
He don't need us.
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I mean he's got Tiki Barber doing commercials for him in New York City.
I saw that right there on Times Square.
Hey look at this.
Brandon just said he's going to send him a t-shirt and a cap too.
So if y'all like this, all you gotta do is hit the thumbs up button.
You're going to get your name put into a wheel for a drawing for a free bag of hero salute
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from next level and a cap and a t-shirt.
So man, Brandon's feeling generous tonight.
Hooking it.
Hey I have to say Brandon, I mean I'm not going to throw my buddy under the bus but
if you go back and look at Thanksgiving pictures of Bryce and myself, I mean who was representing
next level?
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It was you.
It would have been at my family get together I was representing next level.
It's true.
It sure was.
I mean I'm steady repping the raftery these days.
Yup.
Ah, sitting there eating Thanksgiving dinner.
Next level hat.
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Bingo.
Hey I had a guy actually, if you go look at my, you can literally go look at my text messages
from about six minutes ago and I had a guy message me and say hey do you guys sell Joy
at Froggy Bottom?
If so what's the price on 2420?
I said no we don't sell Joy.
I said but if you're looking for a great feed in 2420 I said you need to check out the next
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level.
I said it's got wheels and tramp looking fantastic.
Really honestly I mean they are shined up, they're slicked up, wheels is looking good.
I mean he's put some weight on.
Like I'm a big fan of it so I'm all in on the next level train.
Tyler Compton's watching, Chris Hale's watching.
Who else we got on here?
Harry Middleton.
Thumbs it up guys.
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If you, we'll mention it a few more times but if you thumb up this live during the live
feed your name's gonna be put in for a raffle for next level bag of dog food, a t-shirt
and a hat.
Make sure you hit thumbs up.
Yep absolutely.
So Basher you been doing any hunting?
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I saw you went last night.
You know you already know.
I hate, hate the cold weather.
So it is, it's usually a hit or miss whether I go hunting or not.
Went last night which you know.
You got a taste of it when you were down here.
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Chicken thighs and moon pies.
Olayne Leverett.
Olayne you got a taste of it when you were down here.
You know people don't understand.
People think oh well you've got an Indiana address.
Man you've got, which don't get me wrong, I've got the population of Coons.
I've got it.
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However, just go ahead and tell them Mr. Bryce Matthews.
How much did you absolutely love your first winter down here?
Yeah there's a big difference between south of I-70 and north of I-70 when it comes to
tree and Coons in the winter.
South of I-70 it's kind of tough.
They don't move like they do north of I-70.
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No they hang out, they hang out in the freaking den trees.
I mean you know that after the first week I remember Bryce calling me saying man screw
this.
What am I doing?
I'm out here freezing my balls off.
My dogs trees like nine dens in a row.
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I mean is it slick?
And I told him I said they just don't move down here because it gets a little warmer.
So they're a little bit more warm nature.
You know what I mean?
And so when it gets those frigid temperatures, they just don't move.
They lay up in a den and they don't move.
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Up north, I said it in one of my live videos last night, you can go to Michigan, be 12,
13 inches of snow on the ground and you're still tree Coons.
You get ants of snow here, nothing.
Yeah I went last night too and I ended up having to cut it a little short.
Wheels, I cut wheels, tramp, and daisy all at the same time in the state forest.
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And wheels went like 1.58 miles total.
He flew around a big horse trail down through the woods, went down to the river, ran the
river back, caught one catching a drink, and ambushed one right there.
So he ended up like 800 from the truck, went to him, gave him his Coon.
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Daisy got treed and went to her and she had a big den.
Well and Duel said not last night up north.
I treed one Duel.
I don't know why me and Duel haven't been hunting here in a while.
We need to get back together here.
He's been on the road winning all these hunts.
How bad was it Duel?
A lot of snow.
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So we go to Daisy, she's got a den, and I look down and Tramp had swam the Dagon River
right there.
Now granted it's not super deep.
I could have crossed the river, but where she was going there was no point in going
across the river trying to catch her whenever I could have just drove around.
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So I took the dogs in the truck, drove all the way around, got her picked up.
She was booger barking on a big old snag tree, but she never would come treed.
She wouldn't do anything with it.
But she was just booger barking on it and gosh she was soaked and it was freezing.
She actually had ice cubes.
Her fur was starting to ice over already.
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So I threw her in the box and I took her home.
I got an entry to the 12 mile pro sport hunt next Friday night.
So it's been super, it's just frozen.
So wheels, I mean he is what he is.
Beating and thrashing on him and just hunting him hard is not going to change anything.
So I figure there's no point in running around all night getting his pads cut up on the ice
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and on the frozen ground and all that good stuff.
So I'm going to hunt him probably again tomorrow night and we might hit a local hunt here this
weekend and then we're going to get ready for that pro sport hunt next Friday.
Dule said I was by the Michigan line.
It was like a blizzard with lake effect.
So five dens miles apart and one coon we've seen in a den.
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Yup, yup.
So spot tree, four dens.
I've seen one on the inside.
I couldn't, you couldn't even get a phone in the other ones.
Buzz tree, four dens.
I've seen one on the inside.
And then May tree, two dens.
And finally at the very last tree she had one outside, a big old boar.
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And I was able to get one coon down last night.
But the dogs, they ran decent tracks.
They did a good job.
Moved around real good.
Just everything was denned up.
Yeah.
Mark Adkin said same down here.
Had a slick, a single and a den.
Jordan Cobel's watching.
Man, I just saw a post on Facebook.
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Looked like old Jordan and Kevin Cable got after it on them squirrel dogs today.
It looked like they had a tailgate full of them.
I love me a good squirrel dog.
So I know how you're all about schedules.
I do like my schedules.
All right.
Are you ready for this?
I don't know.
Cause, cause it's all over your Facebook.
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It's all over my Facebook.
It's it's a bucket list item.
Oh, you're talking about going down to the white river guys.
Next year we're going to put together a party.
And Semper dogging is it going to go to white river refuge?
Yeah, we need to go.
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So I I'm all for this because I, you and I tried to go one year.
Nope.
No, no, no, no, no.
Take that back.
We didn't really try to go to white river refuge.
What was it?
We went down there to get a dog and we ended up there.
We were like, screw it.
We're already down here.
Let's, let's cut loose.
Yeah.
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And we went down there and it was right in the middle of peak flood season.
We hunted for two nights down there in hip high water.
We're in coons, but it wasn't a man.
I think, you know what?
I think we need to reshare that post.
Oh, you need to find it.
I got some people fired up about our trip to Arkansas.
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Yeah.
The, the, the things we found out about Arkansas.
Yeah.
But, uh, no, God, stupid fly.
Um, yeah.
So white river is something that I really do want to do.
I want to go down there and rent a cabin and hunt.
You know, I think it's the south unit that everybody says is, is the good unit.
Uh, gosh, I don't, I want to go down there before the flood hits, you know, before the
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duck hunters start flooding in down there and everything.
And I want to do it.
First week of December.
Well, so, I mean, that'd be right now.
And I've already seen posts where people were going like two and three weeks ago saying
it was prime.
And then like last week they were saying that it was flooded and now it's back down.
Okay.
I know, uh, Billy Carter's down there.
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Um, I mean, they're Chad Doolin is obviously the resident expert down there.
So we would get with him, but I'm just going to go on ahead and say the first week of December
next year, go ahead and put it on your calendar.
Then we're going to take our semper dog and we're going to pack up.
We're going to find out who else is down there.
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We're going to do some podcasts.
We're going to say you, we're going to do some live one, but on a YouTube page, um,
we're going to make a big ordeal of it.
Yeah.
I really want to go down there.
Um, you know, we got Eric Jones watching Tyler Jackson on here.
Thank you guys for joining us.
Hey, uh, just know, do another quick shout out here.
If you guys haven't heard yet, we're going to be doing a giveaway here.
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Uh, after this podcast is over.
So all you gotta do is hit the like button, the thumbs up button, and you're going to
be entered to win a free bag of next level hero salute, a hat and a shirt.
So make sure you guys hit that thumbs up button.
Josh Davidson said, I've always wanted to hunt down there at the white river.
Go ahead and go ahead and plan it for next year.
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Uh, uh, sorry for cutting you off, bro.
You know, I just, I read it, I go on ahead and, and, uh, I think of it like a lot, but
I forget we, uh, record these things.
So Josh, just for the listeners after this, Josh said, David said, I've always wanted
to hunt down there at white river.
Uh, Hey, plan on next year, first week.
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Um, anybody that wants to go, send us a PO, get a big cabin down there somewhere.
We're going to, right.
Uh, we're going to go down there and have a good time.
Yeah.
Hey, we got Leland Miller, Kyle short, Aaron Austin, all of them on, man, I saw Aaron,
he's been getting after it on them coyote dogs down there in Oklahoma.
And I heard old Leland's going to go down there and go hunt with Dalton Hillard this
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weekend down there in Kentucky, try and get on them.
That's where I was at this weekend.
After Thanksgiving, we went down there and, uh, boy, we rolled a couple of coyotes.
It was fun.
I definitely enjoy that.
Tyler Jackson says the white is deep tree, more Coons than other places.
It's full of people crowded and flooded at times can be a nightmare.
I mean, that's good advice.
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I mean, it's good to know good information.
Yeah.
So Tyler, it's not so much we're going to, don't get me wrong, going down there because,
I mean, we see everybody poking about tranchones.
I know that you can tree more in other places.
Like there's places at Iowa and Wisconsin, but it's more so the history, uh, the history
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that that place that belongs to Coon hunting.
I mean, all the way back to, you know, JC Ellis having a camp down there, you know,
a big farm down there, taking his handlers and everybody down there, you know, it's just,
it's the history from our sport that is embedded in the place.
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And so it's something always been on the mind.
And to be honest in what we're doing in the podcast world and, and interviewing like that,
the more people, the better.
Yeah, for sure.
And uh, you know, I think that another part that draws me to it and call me lazy, I guess,
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but I see everybody takes her side by sides and stuff down there and can ride around everywhere.
Oh man.
I am, I like, I saw Billy's post, you know, I mean, and even Strickland was posting some
stuff yesterday, him and Oxidine and Rick lifts, like everybody does fellowship and
down there cooking these big meals for lunch, taking a nap while you got a bonanza marathon
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playing on the TV, you know, get ready to go hunting, hunt, you know, all night, a short
night, whatever you want to do.
But you know, just go down there and fellowship with buddies.
So the first week of December that, that week holds a special place in my heart.
And I'm really upset right now because for the last four years I've been down in Virginia
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bear hunting with Heath Hyatt the first week of December.
Yep.
And this year I'm sitting up here in Peru, Indiana.
It's not the same.
Yeah.
It's just not.
Like I said, we're going to have to, we're going to do it right guys.
We're going to, I'd like to, I'd like to say we're going to take seven, eight people down
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there.
I'm all, I'm going to pull a Mark off of the, you know, I got to keep it a PG.
We're going to pull Mark off the nipple for three or four days.
Come go with us.
I'll handle the backlash of that one.
Ooh.
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I like what Brandon said here.
He said a next level, big contest on the white river.
Check that out.
I mean, we might have to, we might have to do something sponsored by next.
Yeah that would be interesting.
You know, kind of blow it up a little bit and just make it a, make it a big deal or
it's a big hide hunt.
You know, a big meat hunt, payback, you know, payback 70% or something like that.
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I exaggerated just a little.
Oh, whatever.
Oh well.
It is what it is.
Tiffany says, I'm not afraid of you.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Brandon says we're in, we're at the get old Brandon down there.
We might have to just see if somebody can let him borrow a blue tick or something that
he can come hunt.
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Hey Brandon, I know your schedule is crazy busy.
First week of next, first week of December next year, you're going to white river refuge.
Yeah.
Go ahead and Mark off your trade shows, Mark off your events.
Yep.
Well Scott and Antoine, you've got a prior engagement.
Yep.
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Semper dogging.
Hey, I'm on it.
I'm on it.
You talk about, you talk about being organized.
I got to make sure I get on everybody's calendar.
Yeah, that's true.
Hey, speaking of something, this is not going to be part of this.
Brandon said I'll be there.
I'll bring old spot.
Okay.
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This is not part of the raffle or the giveaway.
This is simply me using a platform here.
I've got a Garmin alpha LTE that I used for about 10 nights that I am trying to sell.
So if anybody on here is interested in one of the Garmin alpha LTE collars, it's going
to come with the one year prepaid subscription already to Garmin, 300 bucks.
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So that's the price of the collar.
So basically you're getting the $50 subscription for free.
I'm selling this for a guy.
He let me test it out and it just, it wasn't something that I needed.
It didn't do anything much more for me than what I think the regular collars already do.
But I know some people, you know, they like to have a good backup.
I like to run two collars on my dogs.
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So Garmin alpha LTE, it's only about 10 days old for sale.
If anybody, anybody's interested there, figure out, throw that in there, do a plug.
We got a few comments.
Got a few comments.
Tyler Jackson says Maddox Bay Cabin is a great place to stay.
Full of good duck cabins you can rent.
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Hey Tyler, will you PM me?
Just send me a quick DM information if you would please.
Tyler says, but book now they'll feel quick.
Nikki Matthews, my wife likes to get on here and be smart.
She said, I've got a dog Brandon can borrow and I can hunt tramp.
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That's fine.
I'll take tramp.
No problemo.
Kyle Roberts is watching the big winner of the Battle of the Brides shootout.
Welcome Kyle, Jeremy Houchin.
Nice to see you guys.
Nice to see you over here on the Semper Dog and Dog and Tuesday.
Go ahead and hit that like button.
Guys, your name entered into a drawing either today or tomorrow.
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As soon as we get the list together, anybody that likes this live feed, they're going to
go into a draw for a bag of next level dogs.
Yeah, you're cutting up over there, Basham.
Yep.
Go ahead and repeat.
Yeah.
Basham said, you know, anybody who likes this, we're going to get it entered for a drawing
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sponsored by Next Level Bag of Heroes salute, a hat and a shirt.
Man, let's speaking of some events that I know I'm going to be going to, I don't know
about you.
Right around the corner next month, a month from right now, Orangeburg, South Carolina,
the big grand American, UKC, are you going to be there?
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Right now?
Not going to grand American.
Right now, going to grand American or your, your audio just got real bad.
It sounds real muffled.
Did you hear me now?
That's better.
I said, I doubt I'll go to either one of them or winter classic.
I doubt it.
I don't know.
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It's time for me to get back to work.
So I don't know really where I'm going.
I gotcha.
I gotcha.
Well, I'm going to be at both of them.
I'm going down there to Orangeburg for a weekend and then going to turn around next month,
the next month in February and go down to Batesville, Mississippi.
And man, Lane Leverage said everybody get on the list for the battle of the big dogs.
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Yeah.
Why don't you go ahead and tell everybody about that in case they didn't hear last week's
episode.
So if you've got this guy, 20,000, a male dog, a male dog has got 20,000 earnings or
20,000 in pro earning.
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Give your name to lane lever.
The hunt is the battle of the big dogs, December 27th and 28th.
And he still springs to eat.
Yep.
It's going to be a thousand dollar entry.
So the way that they're doing that is if you feel like your dog is qualified and ready
to compete rather than them picking 36 males, what they're going to do is everybody who
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meets the criteria of having 20,000 one and either PKC or in pro sport, they are going
and you want to get in, you put your name on the wheel, they're going to spin the wheel.
They're going to spin it 36 times and anybody who's else is after that, they're going to
keep spinning it all the way down and those are going to be the backups.
So as lane said during the podcast, he said, get in where you fit in.
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If you're ready to play, go on out there.
That way they can't say that, oh, we should invite this person or should invite that person
to that dog.
It's as fair as it gets with the wheel.
So battle of the big dogs, December 27th, 28th, Essel Springs, Tennessee pro sport.
Let's see here.
Tyler Jackson said pro sport shoot out at the white river this weekend.
And then he said, how's your pup doing out of break box, Bryce?
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So tramp, she is the, the break box pup that we're talking about.
Nikki likes to rib me over.
She is progressing.
She I think now has treed six Coons.
She's definitely a much slower starter than I'm used to, or I guess wouldn't really like
her to be.
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But that's just being very transparent that she is a, she wants to figure it out and wants
to be right before she parks it and locks it down.
When she does, I'm working on tree confidence.
There's been, I added those six Coons.
I think there's probably been four of them where she, she barks up on it.
She locates, she hits up on it and then she checks herself and comes back and checks herself
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and comes back and checks herself.
And she'll be there when you get there, but she's just not trein.
So working on that tree confidence, been trying a couple of different things, you know, to
get her barking a little bit more, man, once she's fired up, I mean, she is loud.
And her voice carries and she, she really, I think is going to be something that may
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not be a world beater, but you know, you'll be competitive with her.
Um, and I'm just trying to wait it out and have a little more patience here.
It's not a strong virtue of mine, patience at all.
Um, but I also can't afford just to go out and buy another dog.
So it's, it's one of those deals where you just got to train one and make one.
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So I am going to keep pushing her and keep working with her.
I do have a litter out of wheels that is due in two weeks.
So Tracy Thompson's ringtails forever Mandy JIP, she's carrying those pups.
She's almost a platinum champion.
I think she only needs a thousand dollars to be a platinum and PKC.
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She's got a belly full of wheels pups.
So my plan here is to keep hunting tramp, work with her, see what she's going to do.
Um, you know, and then those pups from wheels, obviously they've got to grow up and be eight,
nine, 10 months old, um, get after it.
And we'll just, we'll just see what we're working with there.
Cause I'm definitely not going to work with two young dogs at one time.
Um, not you, no, not me.
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That's not happening at all.
So um, yeah, I just don't have anything else to push right now.
I'm not interested in it.
Um, but I am curious just to see what we can do with tramp.
So she's progressing, but like I said, she's much slower than what I would like to, uh,
like to see, I guess.
And he said, so she's out of full sister to Walter, right?
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Had him here a while, thought a lot of him, won the Arkansas state race with him and some
other stuff.
His pups are similar to tramp.
They're the trailing type slow to tree, but have them eyes when you get there.
Yeah.
So her mama is a lone pine dog.
Um, and then like I said, her dad is a break box.
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So I'm not sure about the Walter.
What's Walter out of, do you know, bash them uncle Walter?
I know who he's talking about.
Oh, oh, oh, uncle Walter.
He was in the same litter.
Wasn't uncle Walter in the same litter as cash app and legs and happy feet.
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I'm not sure.
I, okay, I'm pretty sure that uncle Walter and y'all can correct me if I'm wrong.
Cause I'm shooting from the hip here.
Jeremy Houchman says, literally mate to Z.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
They're made to Z and I think of the other ones.
Okay.
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Okay.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Mars Z and Mars is it three and chick?
Gotcha.
Okay.
So I was way off there.
I was in the same litter as the three dogs.
And I've been told that, you know, those three dogs started pretty late as well.
I don't know much about that, but that's what I've been told.
And I've also talked to some other people that have some pups out of this litter and
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it sounds like the males really took off in the females or late starting.
I don't think tramp is the only one in her scenario.
I think a couple of the other females were there and Tyler Jackson said, I thought your
pup was out of Raven or hooker, which is their sister.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's out of, uh, she's out of hooker, which is why her name is tramp stamp.
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That was, I don't have her papers.
I never, I never did get the full papers, but a lone pine hooker I believe is the name
of the gyp that she's out of.
It's rocky pieces dog.
So as far as Alan Jeffries joined us, Stephen white, uh, he's house is what was, what was
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it?
Oh, nevermind.
It wasn't lone pine hooker.
It's high point hooker.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
I don't know why I was thinking lone pine, maybe because, because I hunted rebel for Rocky
and it was lone pine rebel.
I think that's what it was.
That's where I'm all messed up here.
I am not great with lineages and papers guys.
So forgive me.
I will never claim to be the guy who knows all the history of what dogs are litter mates
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to who and who did what.
Um, so yeah, Tyler Jackson, you're giving me some education here, man.
I'm all for it.
I do appreciate it.
Yeah.
That's the story on tramp.
So, you know, somebody, probably the person I ever encountered when it comes to pedigree
is Steven Smith.
If you ever you're ever around him and hear him talk about pedigrees, man, he can just
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rattle off dog after dog after and what they were half sister to half brother to and litter
mate to.
I mean, he's just, he's phenomenal whenever that, yeah, I'm definitely not.
I mean, you know, I've sat down and tried to look at things and piece things together,
but it's just not something that sticks in my head.
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Tyler says, yep.
Full sister to Zep three and muscle chick.
I believe chick was a sister to tracks that Stefan lab had.
Uh, Mark Adkin said, I know you're feeling I'm working one that's trying to put it together.
So yeah, I don't know.
All right.
Let's hear your guys' thoughts.
Like if, so I think I want to say those dogs are, like I said, I don't have tramps papers.
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Rocky, Rocky and Elliot kept them.
I want to say that they're 16 or 17 months old now.
I mean, if you have a dog in that situation, bash them, what are you doing?
What are you guys doing?
Give us, give us some comments here.
Like, I don't know.
You got a smile on your face, but let's talk about it.
Like, what are you doing with it?
Are you waiting it out?
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Are you shipping it down the road?
See, we're different though.
And here's why.
When, when did you really start putting hunting efforts to her?
Heavy, hot and heavy about three months ago, right around, you know, Oh, she was over a
year old.
So, so really up until then, a little bit here or there, nothing crazy.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I've always taken her out with me and just let her run around.
But as far as like actually hunting with a purpose, she was over, she was over a year
old.
So Mark, Mark already knows where I'm going with this.
Cause he said that he done told me, um, here's the problem.
The problem is, is the old school way of training dogs was exactly what Mark does.
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And that's you take a dog, take a young dog.
In my opinion, that's, that's just, you're not intentionally the dog.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't do it like that.
Honestly, you're hoping the old is the young dog.
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How many, the way that I look at it is, is so every young dog that I've ever trained,
when it comes time to start training them, I mean, this just me, like there are different
ways this is just me.
I've got eight or nine traps in the backyard.
When I get a young dog at the house, every single one of them trap every single day,
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any time I can settle.
And I'm intentionally showing the dog what I do.
Yeah.
I mean, I agree.
I do that.
Like I'll, I'll catch Coons crossing the road and I'll turn a dog on a Coon crossing the
road or I'll set traps.
I mean, that's, that's how I do it.
I just, I like them to get a lot of the puppy out of my guests.
I mean, I send all mine over to Jordan Cobel for a month or two, just to let him run around
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in his pen, just to get some puppy out of them.
I don't want to mess with the weird running around nonsense.
Tyler Jackson said Wilson, which is out of Walter was over two before he would stay treed.
I had him and couldn't stand it.
We'd ended up with him and hunted his breaks off and got him second in super stakes this
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past spring.
So there's a, I mean, there's a case, you know, there's a case for a dog.
He's not putting together till they're, till they're older.
And that's a good case.
I'd take second at super stakes.
I'd be proud of that.
And like I said, I mean, there's going to be some dogs that are slow, but you know,
like what I told him, he's working with a pup out of spot right now.
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Just not wanting to look up and say, Oh, Mark, I said, what are you doing to make the dog
look up besides, you know, because if you're not intentionally showing the dog what you
want to do, then you're just going out there and you're going out there rolling dice like
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you would if you were gambling.
Right.
You're hoping that one day look up and it's just not, uh, some of them will, uh, a lot
of will, but not every single one of them is like, right.
Jason Smith said, Coon crossing the road is the best thing.
I'm not much on showing dogs, Coons in traps, one, maybe two, and that's it for me.
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Um, I think that, you know, in a trap, but everything else I've done with her has been
Coons crossing the road.
Um, cause I'm honestly, we can drive around up here and find Coons crossing pretty easy.
Um, but man, when she gets on a track and she hammers it, like, I think the other problem
that I'm working with right now, and I think we might've discussed this is Tyler says,
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shoot them Coons.
Oh yeah.
I know that I go to work every day and I want paid.
So I think the dogs are the same way.
I disagree.
I don't.
I disagree.
So there's one thing, one of my opinions.
Hey, hey, why don't you, hey, stop for a second.
Try slowing down while you're talking.
We're missing like every third or fourth word.
It just, you're, you're, I don't know what's going on.
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Slow down for a minute.
Hmm.
I don't know.
Uh, this is just my opinion.
I don't really shoot a lot of Coons.
I don't.
Um, I'm a big fan of giving them reward in other ways.
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Okay.
Um, you'll see when you're like, if you see my live video, you'll see where I like a real
high real high pitch pray.
Uh, that comes from, I pray.
Don't get me wrong.
I'll out to them like a young dog.
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I'll shoot some to them, but I don't want your eye on getting a Coon in their mouth
to look good.
Because when they be four years old, you have to consistently do that.
You're not going to have the pot need, especially down here.
Right.
So, you know, all the dogs, the Ben dog that Michael Mitchell had, um, Cameron.
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The Nathan Gunther, Jed, I mean, just multiple ones.
I try basically more off of high praise than I do every Coon is a tree.
Yeah.
Michael Mitchell says he agrees.
He said he gives them one when they need one, but not very many.
Yep.
You know, and I do like, I do think like, when have you started dog, you know, I mean,
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I'll work on, like, I won't give them the first one, you know, I'll make them go hunt
for the second one.
Um, you know, that way they are, they're good.
I gotta go find another one.
And once they get going, don't give them the first two, make them hunt for the third one.
Um, you know, but like now I'll just be very honest.
Like I love kill season.
Big fan of it.
Wheels gets fed in the winter time up here is when I go to the farm that I took you to.
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Yeah.
They need, they need to be thinned out down there.
Ooh, we, but, but so here's my point with the rat real quick, Jason.
I know that you come in and said, you're not a big fan of the trap.
I'm a huge fan of and traps.
And here's why I like to get that dog just so excited, crazy excited.
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Um, in the beginning, now once, once they get used to running and trend, no, I'm not
showing traps or any kids in traps, but in the beginning, like say I get it.
Like I got Ben, Ben was 12 months old, Ben and never for two weeks that dog saw 15 Coons
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in two weeks about every day twice a day.
And what I'm doing is I'm building up that excitement, building up high praise, high
praise, you know, I'm tying him back, run, let him see that Coon, petting him up, up,
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making him excited to the point of and me and you've had this conversation and I've
done it to every pup.
The first two or three Coons that I turned loose to it and Mark and Bryce, everybody
Mark and Bryce, you for this.
But I get a Coon catcher and I put it around and then what I do there is I tie a rope around
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his torso and I put it on a rope.
I put the Coon and for two or three or four trees, however many I want, I let that Coon
go up the tree.
I'll let the dog watch the Coon go up the tree until he gets it, until it clicks in
his head that the Coons go up the tree.
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And I do it to all of them, all my pups.
But I do that, I want something different.
Mark like for instance, Mark, Mark likes his four months, he likes him running around the
house.
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He likes him, you know, he'll go woods with them and me and him had a conversation about
an apple the other day.
Pups, they're pets.
They're glorified pets, that's all they are.
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If I wanted a pet, I'd go get a blue heel lab or a pit bull.
I don't want a Coon hound pet.
I want you to get away, so I like getting pups that are 11, 12, 13, that have never
been touched or been with.
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Then I start with them.
I don't like, me personally, I don't like them.
I hate it.
Yeah.
Hey, I don't know what's going on here, but you're cutting out even worse and I've got
an error here on the pod track.
I'm not sure what it's saying.
It says right error.
So why don't we wind this down and we're going to see if this thing recorded.
I have no idea.
It's telling me I have a right error and you're cutting out real bad.
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So we'll pick this up on the next Dog on Tuesday.
It's a good place to do that.
But hey, while we got everybody on here, make sure that you hit that like button before
we get off here.
We'll tell you one more time.
You punch that like button, the thumbs up.
We're going to be entered into a drawing for a 40 pound bag of next level hero salute and
a hat and a shirt courtesy of Brandon White at next level.
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So make sure you all punch that like.
Suck, I'm not sure why it says right error.
Read what Martin just said.
I start them with the old dog and then break them off of him.
Yep.
Yep.
Sure does.
So that's how you train me to dog.
I agree.
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I'm not into the dogs being around other dogs.
Not into it.
So all right guys, what we're going to hop off here, hopefully this recorded for the
people that we don't have on the dog and Tuesdays here on the Facebook live that listen to it
on the audio form on their way to and from work wherever they're going.
We sure appreciate you guys joining us.
These conversations are fun.
We love the interaction.
We like to hear what you guys are saying.
So a bathroom, I'm going to sign it off if you're good, bud.
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All right.
Sounds good.
All right.
Thanks for being here.
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There's Bryce.
What up?
What's going on buddy?
Well just finally sitting down here for the first time in a hot minute today.
Been busy, busy, busy.
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Not enough daylight hours.
Audio sounds good for the first time.
It does.
It sounds real good.
We'll see if we can keep it up.
I don't know.
You get the goat shed done?
I got one of them done.
Nikki was going to the store to grab a couple more boards for me earlier so she didn't get
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back in time.
Brandon said where's the capital of Sorghum?
If you guys want to know the answer.
You gave it away you son of a gun.
I said if these guys want to know the answer they got to go back and listen to the next
level podcast.
Yeah I know.
I had to do it though.
I had to.
Oh oh oh oh Brandon learned something.
That's right.
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That's right.
Yeah Mark I know the life of a farmer.
It never ends.
People look at me like I'm crazy whenever they drive by and I got my Coon light on.
I'm outside in the goat pasture putting shelters, building shelters and putting stuff together
and it's 8 o'clock at night but it gets freaking dark.
Brandon White said let's give away a free bag.
(01:56):
Hmm.
Oh man we can give away one.
We'll have to come up with a question.
Yeah we'll come up with a question here.
Yeah at the end of the pod we'll just keep listening.
We're going to give away a free bag at next level.
Let's do a bag of hero salute.
Sounds good.
Do a bag of hero salute and that'll be courtesy of Froggy Bottom Outdoors working hand in
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hand here.
How about this?
At next level.
How about this?
What about this?
What about Brody Julian?
Anybody that gives us a thumbs up during this podcast gets their name on a wheel.
Are you going to be the one to keep track of who's doing it?
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Well I mean you can go, as soon as we get done I can go back and see who liked, who
gave us a thumbs up or hard or you know what I mean?
Oh I got you.
I'll screenshot that list and we'll put that list of people that gave us a thumbs up during
this Dog in Tuesday Live.
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Yeah that's a good idea.
Alright so y'all gotta like this at some point during the video and be entered for a free
bag of next level hero salute coming at you courtesy of next level Brandon White.
Thank you buddy.
Alright Bascham, what's been new buddy?
Hey I have to give a shout out.
I know I commented on it but man he's going big time.
He don't need us.
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I mean he's got Tiki Barber doing commercials for him in New York City.
I saw that right there on Times Square.
Hey look at this.
Brandon just said he's going to send him a t-shirt and a cap too.
So if y'all like this, all you gotta do is hit the thumbs up button.
You're going to get your name put into a wheel for a drawing for a free bag of hero salute
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from next level and a cap and a t-shirt.
So man, Brandon's feeling generous tonight.
Hooking it.
Hey I have to say Brandon, I mean I'm not going to throw my buddy under the bus but
if you go back and look at Thanksgiving pictures of Bryce and myself, I mean who was representing
next level?
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It was you.
It would have been at my family get together I was representing next level.
It's true.
It sure was.
I mean I'm steady repping the raftery these days.
Yup.
Ah, sitting there eating Thanksgiving dinner.
Next level hat.
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Bingo.
Hey I had a guy actually, if you go look at my, you can literally go look at my text messages
from about six minutes ago and I had a guy message me and say hey do you guys sell Joy
at Froggy Bottom?
If so what's the price on 2420?
I said no we don't sell Joy.
I said but if you're looking for a great feed in 2420 I said you need to check out the next
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level.
I said it's got wheels and tramp looking fantastic.
Really honestly I mean they are shined up, they're slicked up, wheels is looking good.
I mean he's put some weight on.
Like I'm a big fan of it so I'm all in on the next level train.
Tyler Compton's watching, Chris Hale's watching.
Who else we got on here?
Harry Middleton.
Thumbs it up guys.
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If you, we'll mention it a few more times but if you thumb up this live during the live
feed your name's gonna be put in for a raffle for next level bag of dog food, a t-shirt
and a hat.
Make sure you hit thumbs up.
Yep absolutely.
So Basher you been doing any hunting?
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I saw you went last night.
You know you already know.
I hate, hate the cold weather.
So it is, it's usually a hit or miss whether I go hunting or not.
Went last night which you know.
You got a taste of it when you were down here.
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Chicken thighs and moon pies.
Olayne Leverett.
Olayne you got a taste of it when you were down here.
You know people don't understand.
People think oh well you've got an Indiana address.
Man you've got, which don't get me wrong, I've got the population of Coons.
I've got it.
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However, just go ahead and tell them Mr. Bryce Matthews.
How much did you absolutely love your first winter down here?
Yeah there's a big difference between south of I-70 and north of I-70 when it comes to
tree and Coons in the winter.
South of I-70 it's kind of tough.
They don't move like they do north of I-70.
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No they hang out, they hang out in the freaking den trees.
I mean you know that after the first week I remember Bryce calling me saying man screw
this.
What am I doing?
I'm out here freezing my balls off.
My dogs trees like nine dens in a row.
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I mean is it slick?
And I told him I said they just don't move down here because it gets a little warmer.
So they're a little bit more warm nature.
You know what I mean?
And so when it gets those frigid temperatures, they just don't move.
They lay up in a den and they don't move.
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Up north, I said it in one of my live videos last night, you can go to Michigan, be 12,
13 inches of snow on the ground and you're still tree Coons.
You get ants of snow here, nothing.
Yeah I went last night too and I ended up having to cut it a little short.
Wheels, I cut wheels, tramp, and daisy all at the same time in the state forest.
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And wheels went like 1.58 miles total.
He flew around a big horse trail down through the woods, went down to the river, ran the
river back, caught one catching a drink, and ambushed one right there.
So he ended up like 800 from the truck, went to him, gave him his Coon.
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Daisy got treed and went to her and she had a big den.
Well and Duel said not last night up north.
I treed one Duel.
I don't know why me and Duel haven't been hunting here in a while.
We need to get back together here.
He's been on the road winning all these hunts.
How bad was it Duel?
A lot of snow.
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So we go to Daisy, she's got a den, and I look down and Tramp had swam the Dagon River
right there.
Now granted it's not super deep.
I could have crossed the river, but where she was going there was no point in going
across the river trying to catch her whenever I could have just drove around.
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So I took the dogs in the truck, drove all the way around, got her picked up.
She was booger barking on a big old snag tree, but she never would come treed.
She wouldn't do anything with it.
But she was just booger barking on it and gosh she was soaked and it was freezing.
She actually had ice cubes.
Her fur was starting to ice over already.
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So I threw her in the box and I took her home.
I got an entry to the 12 mile pro sport hunt next Friday night.
So it's been super, it's just frozen.
So wheels, I mean he is what he is.
Beating and thrashing on him and just hunting him hard is not going to change anything.
So I figure there's no point in running around all night getting his pads cut up on the ice
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and on the frozen ground and all that good stuff.
So I'm going to hunt him probably again tomorrow night and we might hit a local hunt here this
weekend and then we're going to get ready for that pro sport hunt next Friday.
Dule said I was by the Michigan line.
It was like a blizzard with lake effect.
So five dens miles apart and one coon we've seen in a den.
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Yup, yup.
So spot tree, four dens.
I've seen one on the inside.
I couldn't, you couldn't even get a phone in the other ones.
Buzz tree, four dens.
I've seen one on the inside.
And then May tree, two dens.
And finally at the very last tree she had one outside, a big old boar.
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And I was able to get one coon down last night.
But the dogs, they ran decent tracks.
They did a good job.
Moved around real good.
Just everything was denned up.
Yeah.
Mark Adkin said same down here.
Had a slick, a single and a den.
Jordan Cobel's watching.
Man, I just saw a post on Facebook.
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Looked like old Jordan and Kevin Cable got after it on them squirrel dogs today.
It looked like they had a tailgate full of them.
I love me a good squirrel dog.
So I know how you're all about schedules.
I do like my schedules.
All right.
Are you ready for this?
I don't know.
Cause, cause it's all over your Facebook.
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It's all over my Facebook.
It's it's a bucket list item.
Oh, you're talking about going down to the white river guys.
Next year we're going to put together a party.
And Semper dogging is it going to go to white river refuge?
Yeah, we need to go.
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So I I'm all for this because I, you and I tried to go one year.
Nope.
No, no, no, no, no.
Take that back.
We didn't really try to go to white river refuge.
What was it?
We went down there to get a dog and we ended up there.
We were like, screw it.
We're already down here.
Let's, let's cut loose.
Yeah.
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And we went down there and it was right in the middle of peak flood season.
We hunted for two nights down there in hip high water.
We're in coons, but it wasn't a man.
I think, you know what?
I think we need to reshare that post.
Oh, you need to find it.
I got some people fired up about our trip to Arkansas.
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Yeah.
The, the, the things we found out about Arkansas.
Yeah.
But, uh, no, God, stupid fly.
Um, yeah.
So white river is something that I really do want to do.
I want to go down there and rent a cabin and hunt.
You know, I think it's the south unit that everybody says is, is the good unit.
Uh, gosh, I don't, I want to go down there before the flood hits, you know, before the
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duck hunters start flooding in down there and everything.
And I want to do it.
First week of December.
Well, so, I mean, that'd be right now.
And I've already seen posts where people were going like two and three weeks ago saying
it was prime.
And then like last week they were saying that it was flooded and now it's back down.
Okay.
I know, uh, Billy Carter's down there.
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Um, I mean, they're Chad Doolin is obviously the resident expert down there.
So we would get with him, but I'm just going to go on ahead and say the first week of December
next year, go ahead and put it on your calendar.
Then we're going to take our semper dog and we're going to pack up.
We're going to find out who else is down there.
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We're going to do some podcasts.
We're going to say you, we're going to do some live one, but on a YouTube page, um,
we're going to make a big ordeal of it.
Yeah.
I really want to go down there.
Um, you know, we got Eric Jones watching Tyler Jackson on here.
Thank you guys for joining us.
Hey, uh, just know, do another quick shout out here.
If you guys haven't heard yet, we're going to be doing a giveaway here.
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Uh, after this podcast is over.
So all you gotta do is hit the like button, the thumbs up button, and you're going to
be entered to win a free bag of next level hero salute, a hat and a shirt.
So make sure you guys hit that thumbs up button.
Josh Davidson said, I've always wanted to hunt down there at the white river.
Go ahead and go ahead and plan it for next year.
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Uh, uh, sorry for cutting you off, bro.
You know, I just, I read it, I go on ahead and, and, uh, I think of it like a lot, but
I forget we, uh, record these things.
So Josh, just for the listeners after this, Josh said, David said, I've always wanted
to hunt down there at white river.
Uh, Hey, plan on next year, first week.
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Um, anybody that wants to go, send us a PO, get a big cabin down there somewhere.
We're going to, right.
Uh, we're going to go down there and have a good time.
Yeah.
Hey, we got Leland Miller, Kyle short, Aaron Austin, all of them on, man, I saw Aaron,
he's been getting after it on them coyote dogs down there in Oklahoma.
And I heard old Leland's going to go down there and go hunt with Dalton Hillard this
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weekend down there in Kentucky, try and get on them.
That's where I was at this weekend.
After Thanksgiving, we went down there and, uh, boy, we rolled a couple of coyotes.
It was fun.
I definitely enjoy that.
Tyler Jackson says the white is deep tree, more Coons than other places.
It's full of people crowded and flooded at times can be a nightmare.
I mean, that's good advice.
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I mean, it's good to know good information.
Yeah.
So Tyler, it's not so much we're going to, don't get me wrong, going down there because,
I mean, we see everybody poking about tranchones.
I know that you can tree more in other places.
Like there's places at Iowa and Wisconsin, but it's more so the history, uh, the history
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that that place that belongs to Coon hunting.
I mean, all the way back to, you know, JC Ellis having a camp down there, you know,
a big farm down there, taking his handlers and everybody down there, you know, it's just,
it's the history from our sport that is embedded in the place.
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And so it's something always been on the mind.
And to be honest in what we're doing in the podcast world and, and interviewing like that,
the more people, the better.
Yeah, for sure.
And uh, you know, I think that another part that draws me to it and call me lazy, I guess,
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but I see everybody takes her side by sides and stuff down there and can ride around everywhere.
Oh man.
I am, I like, I saw Billy's post, you know, I mean, and even Strickland was posting some
stuff yesterday, him and Oxidine and Rick lifts, like everybody does fellowship and
down there cooking these big meals for lunch, taking a nap while you got a bonanza marathon
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playing on the TV, you know, get ready to go hunting, hunt, you know, all night, a short
night, whatever you want to do.
But you know, just go down there and fellowship with buddies.
So the first week of December that, that week holds a special place in my heart.
And I'm really upset right now because for the last four years I've been down in Virginia
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bear hunting with Heath Hyatt the first week of December.
Yep.
And this year I'm sitting up here in Peru, Indiana.
It's not the same.
Yeah.
It's just not.
Like I said, we're going to have to, we're going to do it right guys.
We're going to, I'd like to, I'd like to say we're going to take seven, eight people down
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there.
I'm all, I'm going to pull a Mark off of the, you know, I got to keep it a PG.
We're going to pull Mark off the nipple for three or four days.
Come go with us.
I'll handle the backlash of that one.
Ooh.
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I like what Brandon said here.
He said a next level, big contest on the white river.
Check that out.
I mean, we might have to, we might have to do something sponsored by next.
Yeah that would be interesting.
You know, kind of blow it up a little bit and just make it a, make it a big deal or
it's a big hide hunt.
You know, a big meat hunt, payback, you know, payback 70% or something like that.
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I exaggerated just a little.
Oh, whatever.
Oh well.
It is what it is.
Tiffany says, I'm not afraid of you.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Brandon says we're in, we're at the get old Brandon down there.
We might have to just see if somebody can let him borrow a blue tick or something that
he can come hunt.
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Hey Brandon, I know your schedule is crazy busy.
First week of next, first week of December next year, you're going to white river refuge.
Yeah.
Go ahead and Mark off your trade shows, Mark off your events.
Yep.
Well Scott and Antoine, you've got a prior engagement.
Yep.
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Semper dogging.
Hey, I'm on it.
I'm on it.
You talk about, you talk about being organized.
I got to make sure I get on everybody's calendar.
Yeah, that's true.
Hey, speaking of something, this is not going to be part of this.
Brandon said I'll be there.
I'll bring old spot.
Okay.
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This is not part of the raffle or the giveaway.
This is simply me using a platform here.
I've got a Garmin alpha LTE that I used for about 10 nights that I am trying to sell.
So if anybody on here is interested in one of the Garmin alpha LTE collars, it's going
to come with the one year prepaid subscription already to Garmin, 300 bucks.
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So that's the price of the collar.
So basically you're getting the $50 subscription for free.
I'm selling this for a guy.
He let me test it out and it just, it wasn't something that I needed.
It didn't do anything much more for me than what I think the regular collars already do.
But I know some people, you know, they like to have a good backup.
I like to run two collars on my dogs.
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So Garmin alpha LTE, it's only about 10 days old for sale.
If anybody, anybody's interested there, figure out, throw that in there, do a plug.
We got a few comments.
Got a few comments.
Tyler Jackson says Maddox Bay Cabin is a great place to stay.
Full of good duck cabins you can rent.
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Hey Tyler, will you PM me?
Just send me a quick DM information if you would please.
Tyler says, but book now they'll feel quick.
Nikki Matthews, my wife likes to get on here and be smart.
She said, I've got a dog Brandon can borrow and I can hunt tramp.
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That's fine.
I'll take tramp.
No problemo.
Kyle Roberts is watching the big winner of the Battle of the Brides shootout.
Welcome Kyle, Jeremy Houchin.
Nice to see you guys.
Nice to see you over here on the Semper Dog and Dog and Tuesday.
Go ahead and hit that like button.
Guys, your name entered into a drawing either today or tomorrow.
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As soon as we get the list together, anybody that likes this live feed, they're going to
go into a draw for a bag of next level dogs.
Yeah, you're cutting up over there, Basham.
Yep.
Go ahead and repeat.
Yeah.
Basham said, you know, anybody who likes this, we're going to get it entered for a drawing
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sponsored by Next Level Bag of Heroes salute, a hat and a shirt.
Man, let's speaking of some events that I know I'm going to be going to, I don't know
about you.
Right around the corner next month, a month from right now, Orangeburg, South Carolina,
the big grand American, UKC, are you going to be there?
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Right now?
Not going to grand American.
Right now, going to grand American or your, your audio just got real bad.
It sounds real muffled.
Did you hear me now?
That's better.
I said, I doubt I'll go to either one of them or winter classic.
I doubt it.
I don't know.
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It's time for me to get back to work.
So I don't know really where I'm going.
I gotcha.
I gotcha.
Well, I'm going to be at both of them.
I'm going down there to Orangeburg for a weekend and then going to turn around next month,
the next month in February and go down to Batesville, Mississippi.
And man, Lane Leverage said everybody get on the list for the battle of the big dogs.
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Yeah.
Why don't you go ahead and tell everybody about that in case they didn't hear last week's
episode.
So if you've got this guy, 20,000, a male dog, a male dog has got 20,000 earnings or
20,000 in pro earning.
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Give your name to lane lever.
The hunt is the battle of the big dogs, December 27th and 28th.
And he still springs to eat.
Yep.
It's going to be a thousand dollar entry.
So the way that they're doing that is if you feel like your dog is qualified and ready
to compete rather than them picking 36 males, what they're going to do is everybody who
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meets the criteria of having 20,000 one and either PKC or in pro sport, they are going
and you want to get in, you put your name on the wheel, they're going to spin the wheel.
They're going to spin it 36 times and anybody who's else is after that, they're going to
keep spinning it all the way down and those are going to be the backups.
So as lane said during the podcast, he said, get in where you fit in.
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If you're ready to play, go on out there.
That way they can't say that, oh, we should invite this person or should invite that person
to that dog.
It's as fair as it gets with the wheel.
So battle of the big dogs, December 27th, 28th, Essel Springs, Tennessee pro sport.
Let's see here.
Tyler Jackson said pro sport shoot out at the white river this weekend.
And then he said, how's your pup doing out of break box, Bryce?
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So tramp, she is the, the break box pup that we're talking about.
Nikki likes to rib me over.
She is progressing.
She I think now has treed six Coons.
She's definitely a much slower starter than I'm used to, or I guess wouldn't really like
her to be.
(24:06):
But that's just being very transparent that she is a, she wants to figure it out and wants
to be right before she parks it and locks it down.
When she does, I'm working on tree confidence.
There's been, I added those six Coons.
I think there's probably been four of them where she, she barks up on it.
She locates, she hits up on it and then she checks herself and comes back and checks herself
(24:29):
and comes back and checks herself.
And she'll be there when you get there, but she's just not trein.
So working on that tree confidence, been trying a couple of different things, you know, to
get her barking a little bit more, man, once she's fired up, I mean, she is loud.
And her voice carries and she, she really, I think is going to be something that may
(24:51):
not be a world beater, but you know, you'll be competitive with her.
Um, and I'm just trying to wait it out and have a little more patience here.
It's not a strong virtue of mine, patience at all.
Um, but I also can't afford just to go out and buy another dog.
So it's, it's one of those deals where you just got to train one and make one.
(25:13):
So I am going to keep pushing her and keep working with her.
I do have a litter out of wheels that is due in two weeks.
So Tracy Thompson's ringtails forever Mandy JIP, she's carrying those pups.
She's almost a platinum champion.
I think she only needs a thousand dollars to be a platinum and PKC.
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She's got a belly full of wheels pups.
So my plan here is to keep hunting tramp, work with her, see what she's going to do.
Um, you know, and then those pups from wheels, obviously they've got to grow up and be eight,
nine, 10 months old, um, get after it.
And we'll just, we'll just see what we're working with there.
Cause I'm definitely not going to work with two young dogs at one time.
Um, not you, no, not me.
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That's not happening at all.
So um, yeah, I just don't have anything else to push right now.
I'm not interested in it.
Um, but I am curious just to see what we can do with tramp.
So she's progressing, but like I said, she's much slower than what I would like to, uh,
like to see, I guess.
And he said, so she's out of full sister to Walter, right?
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Had him here a while, thought a lot of him, won the Arkansas state race with him and some
other stuff.
His pups are similar to tramp.
They're the trailing type slow to tree, but have them eyes when you get there.
Yeah.
So her mama is a lone pine dog.
Um, and then like I said, her dad is a break box.
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So I'm not sure about the Walter.
What's Walter out of, do you know, bash them uncle Walter?
I know who he's talking about.
Oh, oh, oh, uncle Walter.
He was in the same litter.
Wasn't uncle Walter in the same litter as cash app and legs and happy feet.
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I'm not sure.
I, okay, I'm pretty sure that uncle Walter and y'all can correct me if I'm wrong.
Cause I'm shooting from the hip here.
Jeremy Houchman says, literally mate to Z.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
They're made to Z and I think of the other ones.
Okay.
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Okay.
Okay.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Mars Z and Mars is it three and chick?
Gotcha.
Okay.
So I was way off there.
I was in the same litter as the three dogs.
And I've been told that, you know, those three dogs started pretty late as well.
I don't know much about that, but that's what I've been told.
And I've also talked to some other people that have some pups out of this litter and
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it sounds like the males really took off in the females or late starting.
I don't think tramp is the only one in her scenario.
I think a couple of the other females were there and Tyler Jackson said, I thought your
pup was out of Raven or hooker, which is their sister.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's out of, uh, she's out of hooker, which is why her name is tramp stamp.
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That was, I don't have her papers.
I never, I never did get the full papers, but a lone pine hooker I believe is the name
of the gyp that she's out of.
It's rocky pieces dog.
So as far as Alan Jeffries joined us, Stephen white, uh, he's house is what was, what was
(28:26):
it?
Oh, nevermind.
It wasn't lone pine hooker.
It's high point hooker.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
I don't know why I was thinking lone pine, maybe because, because I hunted rebel for Rocky
and it was lone pine rebel.
I think that's what it was.
That's where I'm all messed up here.
I am not great with lineages and papers guys.
So forgive me.
I will never claim to be the guy who knows all the history of what dogs are litter mates
(28:50):
to who and who did what.
Um, so yeah, Tyler Jackson, you're giving me some education here, man.
I'm all for it.
I do appreciate it.
Yeah.
That's the story on tramp.
So, you know, somebody, probably the person I ever encountered when it comes to pedigree
is Steven Smith.
If you ever you're ever around him and hear him talk about pedigrees, man, he can just
(29:14):
rattle off dog after dog after and what they were half sister to half brother to and litter
mate to.
I mean, he's just, he's phenomenal whenever that, yeah, I'm definitely not.
I mean, you know, I've sat down and tried to look at things and piece things together,
but it's just not something that sticks in my head.
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Tyler says, yep.
Full sister to Zep three and muscle chick.
I believe chick was a sister to tracks that Stefan lab had.
Uh, Mark Adkin said, I know you're feeling I'm working one that's trying to put it together.
So yeah, I don't know.
All right.
Let's hear your guys' thoughts.
Like if, so I think I want to say those dogs are, like I said, I don't have tramps papers.
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Rocky, Rocky and Elliot kept them.
I want to say that they're 16 or 17 months old now.
I mean, if you have a dog in that situation, bash them, what are you doing?
What are you guys doing?
Give us, give us some comments here.
Like, I don't know.
You got a smile on your face, but let's talk about it.
Like, what are you doing with it?
Are you waiting it out?
(30:19):
Are you shipping it down the road?
See, we're different though.
And here's why.
When, when did you really start putting hunting efforts to her?
Heavy, hot and heavy about three months ago, right around, you know, Oh, she was over a
year old.
So, so really up until then, a little bit here or there, nothing crazy.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I've always taken her out with me and just let her run around.
But as far as like actually hunting with a purpose, she was over, she was over a year
old.
So Mark, Mark already knows where I'm going with this.
Cause he said that he done told me, um, here's the problem.
The problem is, is the old school way of training dogs was exactly what Mark does.
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And that's you take a dog, take a young dog.
In my opinion, that's, that's just, you're not intentionally the dog.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't do it like that.
Honestly, you're hoping the old is the young dog.
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How many, the way that I look at it is, is so every young dog that I've ever trained,
when it comes time to start training them, I mean, this just me, like there are different
ways this is just me.
I've got eight or nine traps in the backyard.
When I get a young dog at the house, every single one of them trap every single day,
(31:57):
any time I can settle.
And I'm intentionally showing the dog what I do.
Yeah.
I mean, I agree.
I do that.
Like I'll, I'll catch Coons crossing the road and I'll turn a dog on a Coon crossing the
road or I'll set traps.
I mean, that's, that's how I do it.
I just, I like them to get a lot of the puppy out of my guests.
I mean, I send all mine over to Jordan Cobel for a month or two, just to let him run around
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in his pen, just to get some puppy out of them.
I don't want to mess with the weird running around nonsense.
Tyler Jackson said Wilson, which is out of Walter was over two before he would stay treed.
I had him and couldn't stand it.
We'd ended up with him and hunted his breaks off and got him second in super stakes this
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past spring.
So there's a, I mean, there's a case, you know, there's a case for a dog.
He's not putting together till they're, till they're older.
And that's a good case.
I'd take second at super stakes.
I'd be proud of that.
And like I said, I mean, there's going to be some dogs that are slow, but you know,
like what I told him, he's working with a pup out of spot right now.
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Just not wanting to look up and say, Oh, Mark, I said, what are you doing to make the dog
look up besides, you know, because if you're not intentionally showing the dog what you
want to do, then you're just going out there and you're going out there rolling dice like
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you would if you were gambling.
Right.
You're hoping that one day look up and it's just not, uh, some of them will, uh, a lot
of will, but not every single one of them is like, right.
Jason Smith said, Coon crossing the road is the best thing.
I'm not much on showing dogs, Coons in traps, one, maybe two, and that's it for me.
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Um, I think that, you know, in a trap, but everything else I've done with her has been
Coons crossing the road.
Um, cause I'm honestly, we can drive around up here and find Coons crossing pretty easy.
Um, but man, when she gets on a track and she hammers it, like, I think the other problem
that I'm working with right now, and I think we might've discussed this is Tyler says,
(34:06):
shoot them Coons.
Oh yeah.
I know that I go to work every day and I want paid.
So I think the dogs are the same way.
I disagree.
I don't.
I disagree.
So there's one thing, one of my opinions.
Hey, hey, why don't you, hey, stop for a second.
Try slowing down while you're talking.
We're missing like every third or fourth word.
It just, you're, you're, I don't know what's going on.
(34:28):
Slow down for a minute.
Hmm.
I don't know.
Uh, this is just my opinion.
I don't really shoot a lot of Coons.
I don't.
Um, I'm a big fan of giving them reward in other ways.
(34:48):
Okay.
Um, you'll see when you're like, if you see my live video, you'll see where I like a real
high real high pitch pray.
Uh, that comes from, I pray.
Don't get me wrong.
I'll out to them like a young dog.
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I'll shoot some to them, but I don't want your eye on getting a Coon in their mouth
to look good.
Because when they be four years old, you have to consistently do that.
You're not going to have the pot need, especially down here.
Right.
So, you know, all the dogs, the Ben dog that Michael Mitchell had, um, Cameron.
(35:35):
The Nathan Gunther, Jed, I mean, just multiple ones.
I try basically more off of high praise than I do every Coon is a tree.
Yeah.
Michael Mitchell says he agrees.
He said he gives them one when they need one, but not very many.
Yep.
You know, and I do like, I do think like, when have you started dog, you know, I mean,
(35:58):
I'll work on, like, I won't give them the first one, you know, I'll make them go hunt
for the second one.
Um, you know, that way they are, they're good.
I gotta go find another one.
And once they get going, don't give them the first two, make them hunt for the third one.
Um, you know, but like now I'll just be very honest.
Like I love kill season.
Big fan of it.
Wheels gets fed in the winter time up here is when I go to the farm that I took you to.
(36:21):
Yeah.
They need, they need to be thinned out down there.
Ooh, we, but, but so here's my point with the rat real quick, Jason.
I know that you come in and said, you're not a big fan of the trap.
I'm a huge fan of and traps.
And here's why I like to get that dog just so excited, crazy excited.
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Um, in the beginning, now once, once they get used to running and trend, no, I'm not
showing traps or any kids in traps, but in the beginning, like say I get it.
Like I got Ben, Ben was 12 months old, Ben and never for two weeks that dog saw 15 Coons
(37:11):
in two weeks about every day twice a day.
And what I'm doing is I'm building up that excitement, building up high praise, high
praise, you know, I'm tying him back, run, let him see that Coon, petting him up, up,
(37:32):
making him excited to the point of and me and you've had this conversation and I've
done it to every pup.
The first two or three Coons that I turned loose to it and Mark and Bryce, everybody
Mark and Bryce, you for this.
But I get a Coon catcher and I put it around and then what I do there is I tie a rope around
(37:57):
his torso and I put it on a rope.
I put the Coon and for two or three or four trees, however many I want, I let that Coon
go up the tree.
I'll let the dog watch the Coon go up the tree until he gets it, until it clicks in
his head that the Coons go up the tree.
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And I do it to all of them, all my pups.
But I do that, I want something different.
Mark like for instance, Mark, Mark likes his four months, he likes him running around the
house.
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He likes him, you know, he'll go woods with them and me and him had a conversation about
an apple the other day.
Pups, they're pets.
They're glorified pets, that's all they are.
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If I wanted a pet, I'd go get a blue heel lab or a pit bull.
I don't want a Coon hound pet.
I want you to get away, so I like getting pups that are 11, 12, 13, that have never
been touched or been with.
(39:21):
Then I start with them.
I don't like, me personally, I don't like them.
I hate it.
Yeah.
Hey, I don't know what's going on here, but you're cutting out even worse and I've got
an error here on the pod track.
I'm not sure what it's saying.
It says right error.
So why don't we wind this down and we're going to see if this thing recorded.
I have no idea.
It's telling me I have a right error and you're cutting out real bad.
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So we'll pick this up on the next Dog on Tuesday.
It's a good place to do that.
But hey, while we got everybody on here, make sure that you hit that like button before
we get off here.
We'll tell you one more time.
You punch that like button, the thumbs up.
We're going to be entered into a drawing for a 40 pound bag of next level hero salute and
a hat and a shirt courtesy of Brandon White at next level.
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So make sure you all punch that like.
Suck, I'm not sure why it says right error.
Read what Martin just said.
I start them with the old dog and then break them off of him.
Yep.
Yep.
Sure does.
So that's how you train me to dog.
I agree.
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I'm not into the dogs being around other dogs.
Not into it.
So all right guys, what we're going to hop off here, hopefully this recorded for the
people that we don't have on the dog and Tuesdays here on the Facebook live that listen to it
on the audio form on their way to and from work wherever they're going.
We sure appreciate you guys joining us.
These conversations are fun.
We love the interaction.
We like to hear what you guys are saying.
So a bathroom, I'm going to sign it off if you're good, bud.
(40:44):
All right.
Sounds good.
All right.
Thanks for being here.
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