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Canines are our passion.
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They are our addiction.
They are our way of life right down to the very core and without them we would be lost.
The canines of this world really are something to behold.
They assist us at work.
They accompany us at home and they perform for us in the field.
No matter where we go, they are by our side.
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Canines really are a ride or die and for that we are grateful.
This podcast will showcase working canines of various breeds and disciplines as we search
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Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of the Simper Dog and Podcast.
Guys, tonight it is ya boys.
Bryce Matthews and Stephen Basham at the mic.
What is up my guy?
What's up, buddy?
It's going to be a, well, today guys, we're doing a little different, a little different.
We are going to shoot at the hip.
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This is an impromptu podcast with just me and Bryce.
First and foremost, want to, want to jump out there and say congratulations and have
fun with it to my buddy.
Oh, Bryce, guys, this is his last podcast where he will be known as Bryce Matthews.
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Oh my gosh.
After this, it will be Bryce Elburn.
I tell you what, you talk about shooting from the hip.
This guy, unreal.
So make sure you guys, y'all reach out to Bryce and tell him congratulations.
And we're going to, we're going to enjoy the festivities up there at Auto Mox and have
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a good time and it'd be super special.
So congratulations, buddy.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm looking forward to it.
Hopefully she says I do and not I don't.
For those of you who are like, what in the heck are these guys talking about?
So Nikki and I last year, well, no, not I, Nikki decided last year at Auto Mox.
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Actually, it was Nikki and Tiffany.
Yeah.
Nikki and Tiffany decided last year at Auto Mox that Nikki and I were getting married
this year at Auto Mox and I just went along with it and turns out they were serious.
So this, this podcast is going to drop on Friday and the next Tuesday we're tying the
knot at Auto Mox.
So if anybody's listening to this and it's going to be there, come on over seven o'clock
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right behind the vendor barn and in between the vendor barn and the dog barn in that open
pavilion, we're going to have a party.
It's going to be a good old time, a real short ceremony wedding followed up by a banger reception.
So I'm pumped.
Yeah, it'll be, it'll be, it's going to be fun.
And guys, that is why this, this episode here is going to be a little bit of an impromptu
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deal.
This is going to be more like a dog and Tuesday style episode where we kind of just talk about
whatever's on our mind.
We don't have a guest.
We don't have anything in particular just because of everything that's been going on
trying to get this wedding put together, trying to get everything packed, ready to go when
you're packing for a family like mine, you're packing for nine people.
I mean, you get the red van loaded, don't you?
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The red van's loaded.
The campers are being loaded right now.
I mean, we're packing for nine dogs and like six or eight dog or excuse me, nine people
and six or eight dogs to go camping for a week.
So it takes a lot on this.
Everybody's going.
Everybody's going.
Everybody's going at least for the first, for the first two nights.
They'll go Monday, Tuesday.
Yeah.
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And then the older girls are going to come back and go to school Wednesday.
So the other kids like screw that.
We're hanging out camping all week.
So they're going to take a week off school.
And the older kids are like, I'm away from the parents.
Yes, sir.
Exactly.
Yeah.
We'll go to school.
Yeah.
Quote unquote school.
Yeah.
So guys, that's kind of what the meat and potatoes is on this podcast is just we're
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going to dive into us, you know, what we're talking about.
And that is automoaps.
The automoaps week has been a staple in our industry in the Coon hunting world.
It's the time where honestly it's one of, it's probably my most favorite event.
You know, it's, it's more than just going up there and hunting.
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Just going up there and fellowship and then hanging out and telling a lot, you know, live
stories and 12 inch fish turns into a 24 inch fish.
And so you just ride around on your side by side and go from camper to camper to camper
to camper and just, you know, have a good time.
And, you know, people come from everywhere and it's the one time a year that you get
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to see friends that you normally don't see throughout the year.
And so me and Bryce, we're going to kind of break it down and talk about different aspects
that deals with the week and just kind of go from there.
Yeah.
So, you know, we've kind of hit on automoaps the last couple of podcasts.
We just kind of briefly touched on it, you know, just getting, getting everybody ready
and geared up for it.
So something that I found very interesting fashion was Trevor Wade made a post on Facebook
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today.
No, I said that this is the first time I've ever seen UKC put a post out like this.
Yeah.
So Trevor Wade, he's the Coonhound program manager over there at UKC.
And this is for the pre-entries.
Okay.
So this is Friday and Saturday that's pre-entered.
And we all know that these numbers will go up from, they will go up on, you know, come
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day cast with walk up.
So this is just pre-entry.
The night hunts, guess how many entries they got?
I think it's, I mean, just, I'm not going to say because I'm, I read it too.
So go ahead.
Well, you're not supposed to have remembered that because I wouldn't remembered it.
Anyway, thanks for ruining my game.
I appreciate you.
No problem.
That's what friends are for.
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500 entries in the night hunt.
No.
Now I know you don't have it broke down by division.
No, I don't.
All right.
How many grand nights, how many grand nights do you think there are out of 500?
That's 500, 326.
225 grand nights.
Damn.
Then the night hunt champions.
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I'll give you one more guess.
The night hunt or the night champions.
The champion 115.
Oh, closer 127.
Okay.
And then if your math is really good, that leaves 100 and 148 registered dogs.
So that's pre-intered for Friday night.
Or excuse me, excuse me.
That is pre-intered in general for Friday night.
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All the grand's have to hunt on Friday nights.
We've got 225 grants of the 127 night champions.
There are 88 of them registered for Friday.
Of the 144 or 148 registered dogs, there are 70 registered for Friday.
So that's another 150.
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So you're talking, you're talking 475 for Friday night alone.
And that's, that's, that's just your pre-intered.
And I mean, you know this as well as I do.
There's every bit 30, 40% of the entries come by walk up.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so for Saturday, that only leaves 39 night champions, 78 registered for Saturday
that's pre-intered.
So there is a huge influx of people wanting to hunt Friday night.
I don't know if that's good or bad.
I understand.
Well, you see what he said, didn't you?
I did.
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I did.
We're going to, we're going to get into that.
And you know, in a personal side, I understand it because if you don't do no good Friday,
you get to leave Saturday, go home, especially people traveling a long way and get their
weekend in there.
But I also see that, you know, dogs that don't, you know, good Friday.
I mean, you're there for Saturday.
Your chances of getting guided to a better place are a lot higher.
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So yeah, but I mean, I'm not that far from it.
And if I had a registered or a night champion that I was on, I would want to hunt Friday
just because for me, you hunt Friday.
You don't do no good or say you do good.
It don't matter, right?
You've got all day Saturday to just kind of hang out, look around, do what you want to
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do versus if you hunt Saturday night, Saturday night, then say you get in at three o'clock
in the morning and you don't do no good.
Now you know that you got to get up the next morning, pack up, load up and head to the house.
So it's, there's a reason why most people like to hunt on Fridays is just because then
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like I said, if you do no good, you've got all day Saturday to kind of slowly pack up
and then, you know, by the time you hit the sack on Saturday night, you can have everything
packed up ready to go Sunday morning, get up, eat some breakfast and then head to the house.
Yeah.
And another thing you got to think about because this is the situation that I'm going to be
in personally.
Well, not me, but Nikki.
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So wheels, I can't believe you're doing that to her.
Wheels was registered as a night champion for Saturday night.
I pre-entered wheels Saturday night.
You guys have heard me talk about.
You guys have heard me talk about how I didn't know if I was going to put him in or not and
gosh darn it.
He just, this treatment has been working on him just being upfront.
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He's looking good.
So I went out this last, last weekend and picked up his last win to make him a grand
night.
He's going to get bumped up to Friday because all grand's have to hunt Friday.
So I know what you want to do.
What?
In your heart of hardship, like, man, I really just want to hunt wheels.
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Well, I do want to hunt wheels.
I want to hunt my dog.
But here's the deal, guys.
I am a man of my word.
And when wheels was down and out, when wheels was down and out, I asked Basham because I
knew what I know what he's got going on.
I said, Hey, I need a dog.
I need to hunt Friday night oaks.
What you got?
And he told me all spot was available.
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So I agreed to hunt spot and that's what I'm going to do.
And here's why, because Nikki can call wheels.
Colton can call wheels.
I can have anybody in my family hunt that dog and he doesn't hunt for one person.
I mean, he hunts about the same no matter who's turning him loose.
So as long as you can call the dog, it don't matter.
It don't matter who's behind the lead.
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Then Nikki is more than capable of calling a dog.
She's more than capable of keeping three other grown men in place in a cast too.
So I don't worry about her.
We know that with the Indiana State hunt, right?
Oh, she put a whole clubhouse in place at the Indian State.
You got to watch out when you make her mad.
Oh, no.
Yeah, you might get a shovel.
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All right.
So we're going to continue here with this breakdown with the breeds.
We got 37 black and tanned pre-innered.
Two leopard dogs.
Oh, hold up.
54 blue ticks.
Hold on.
So what we'll do real quick in prompt to this is dog and Tuesday style.
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So when you go through and you name a breed, I'm going to, I'm going to announce who the
first ever breed was to win automates.
Oh, the winner of that breed.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Black and tanned.
First ever black and tan was grand night champion jet sir owned by to do Ralph Hunsman 1965.
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All right.
How about the next one?
A leopard.
Oh, yeah.
Pumped brakes.
There ain't no leopard one automates.
You don't think so.
Hold on.
Hold on.
No, I don't.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
I'm scrolling.
I'm scrolling.
I'm almost there.
I don't think a leopard because I don't really remember.
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Leopards didn't even get recognized until probably 2000 something.
Yeah.
So go ahead.
50 54 blue ticks.
Oh, blue tick.
It was grand night champion PR Dean's northern blue hammer three Dave Dean first ever blue
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tick.
And it was 1974.
Okay.
I got a question.
We're going to go down a rabbit hole here.
Go ahead.
Why in the blue tick breed is there one dog that has 27 generations after him?
You got hammer three right there.
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If you the jet line, I'm going to tell you why the jet line of dogs.
You got hold on.
You got like jet 17 or something now.
Norm Starlin's pushing like airplane five or something like that.
What is it with the blue ticks to do that?
To be honest, I like it.
I like it.
And I'll tell you, I'll give you an example.
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Darren Wiseman and coma.
He's had the coma breed for years and years and years and years.
I mean, only thing you know is the word coma.
There's somewhere stylish coma.
Coma stylist legend.
You don't really know which one's which.
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So I actually like a breeder like that.
That is, you know, that names them.
Yeah, but I don't know why it's just the blue ticks.
I don't know.
Stick with that breed.
I think I think somebody along the line, like whether it's Dave Dean or one of the one of
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the other stocks, I think it was just somebody started it and everybody just kind of respected
it and followed it.
Hmm.
All right.
Well, coming out of the rabbit hole, there are 93 English dogs entered English.
First ever English Coonhound to win on a mokes was 1968 national grand night champion, grand
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night champion, champion PR hearts, timber Joe orville heart.
Whoa.
All right.
Let's go down the line to eight plots.
Oh, so me and Bryce were actually talking about this.
The first ever dog to ever win on a mokes.
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The first year it was held in 1960 was champion night champion Brandon Burgers pioneer drum
Dale Brandon burger.
All right.
All right.
Moving on.
18 red bones, the red bone Coonhound.
Oh, I wonder if there's ever been one.
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I bet there has been.
You think so?
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, well, yep.
You ready?
Yep.
National grand night champion, grand night champion PR, yellow river red music owned
by Harry odd, odd, median, Harry, Harry, oh, median.
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There you go.
Yep.
Yep.
Okay.
Then we move on to the next breed.
178 walkers have a strong showing first ever Walker was the second year it was held.
Night champion, Staley's Paducah chief, J. E. Staley.
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All right.
Very last category.
10 cross spreads.
I don't think I could be wrong, but look, I can start at the very bottom for that one
because I know cross spreads wasn't even recognized till last few years.
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Yeah, no.
Okay.
Well, that's all we have for the, for the entries.
There are how many states represented in the pre entries?
Let's go with 32.
You cheat and son of a gun.
No, actually.
Yeah, there really is 32.
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Really?
Yeah.
I need, you know what I need to do?
I need to go.
I need to go enter the lottery because literally that was just off the top of my, my dome.
Yeah.
Okay.
So this next statement is going to come directly from the horse's mouth.
I'm going to read this verbatim from Trevor Wade.
So you guys that are listening to this on Friday, August 23rd.
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This is what Trevor Wade has to say on August 20th.
The number of grand compared to the other categories is a little lopsided and gets even
more lopsided when you are able to look at the pre entered guides.
I did want to say that as of right now, we have too many grand guides pre entered way
too many.
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We have tried to take some precautions to utilize as many as we can, but this is just
a warning that not all grand guides are going to get to guide unfortunately.
Ultimately, it will come down to how many no shows we have as well.
On the other hand, we don't have near enough night champion and registered guides.
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If I were walking up in either of those categories, I would seriously consider holding off until
Saturday.
We've never had to turn away entries before, but this is just me being transparent.
He is super stoked for a great week at Oaks and can't wait to see everyone there.
It's going to be a great hunt.
So that is food for thought.
The lopsided entries are going to make it hard on the host clubs trying to find enough
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guides for everybody.
So if you are on the fence and it doesn't really matter either way, do the host clubs
a favor.
Do this organization a favor and sign up for Saturday if you're on the fence and it doesn't
matter because it will make everybody's life a whole lot easier and you'll probably get
to go to some better hunting anyways.
Oh yeah.
I mean, if you look at all the casts that are going on Friday, I mean, you're going to
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have a lot of casts that don't get put in a lot of good hunting.
Whereas Saturday night, it's kind of open to the winds as far as there's not as many
people hunting.
So there's going to be a lot better hunting on Saturday night than there is Saturday night.
Yep, for sure.
What else you got?
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So, oh, snap, snap, I'll let you go.
Then I got it.
I got something.
Okay, you're taking too long.
Here I go.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go on.
No, hit the wrong button on Friday at 3 p.m.
Friday of automokes at 3 p.m.
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There will be a Hoosier Tree Dog Alliance meeting held across from the vendor barn and the ice
cream stands in that open air pavilion.
There's a pavilion there.
Got some picnic tables and stuff in it.
We are going to have a meeting for the Hoosier Tree Dog Alliance.
I know as of right now, there will be opportunities and to be voted in for a president, a vice
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president, the treasurer and secretary.
There are four major openings.
The timeframe for those who are on the board right now has come to an end and it is time
to vote in new members for those roles.
If you guys are interested in the Hoosier Tree Dog Alliance and it's something that you
guys want to see continue on, I would strongly suggest coming Friday at 3 p.m.
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I will be very, very transparent on this, that the Hoosier Tree Dog Alliance is struggling
to get participation from members.
I say this as somebody who has tried to fight the good fight and bring this organization
back to what it used to be.
Everybody wants to talk about how much we need this organization and what all it needs
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to do.
When it comes down to the brass tacks and it's time for people to step up, people are not
stepping up.
It is being ran on the shoulders of two or three people right now and it is hard.
I just want to be very transparent about that.
This is an organization that I believe in.
I think it's a great thing for the state of Indiana.
I want to see it continue on.
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But we are going to need people to show up and we need people who are going to show up
to take it seriously.
So if you're interested, don't come there just for a bitch session.
Pardon my language, but please don't.
This is not a time to just talk about the should of could of would.
If you want to be there and you want to make a difference and help out, this is the time
for you to be there.
Have your voice heard.
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Step up.
Volunteer for a role.
I know we're going to be looking for Vice President, Treasurer and Secretary.
That's my spiel on the Hoosier-Fielder Alliance meeting.
Yeah.
I think the same thing can be said.
We've talked about it on this on Dog and Tuesdays and podcasts before.
It's just the new age of Coon hunting and the new age of the clubs just aren't what
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they used to be.
It used to be a camaraderie thing.
I remember growing up and I know the listeners have heard stories, but I grew up in Perry
County Coon Club.
We even had Secret Santa and we'd have a Christmas party.
Man, I'm telling you what, they would pack that building.
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There'd be every bit of 100, 150 people at a Christmas party for the Coon Club.
We'd have ham shoots.
We'd get together at Halloween and we'd drive a school bus and take all the kids out, trick
or treating.
It was just a big family organization.
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Yeah.
Three to years, it's gone away.
Everybody.
I need to make a correction.
I misspoke.
That will be Friday at 2 p.m.
Sorry, 2 p.m. on Friday, not 3 p.m.
2 p.m. is when that meeting will be.
I'm glad you said that because I was actually one of my questions for you was going to be
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3 p.m. on Friday is usually when you're supposed to be up at the Rapier Building to get called
out for the night out.
Nope.
So that is at 4 p.m.
Oh, yeah.
4 p.m.
4 p.m. on Friday, August the 30th is when the cast call out in the Coolman Center is
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going to be.
Other than in the Coolman?
Correct.
It's at the Coolman Center.
So that is why our meeting is going to be at 2 o'clock that way.
If it goes over an hour, we're not missing that deadline for the entry there.
Now, what time is the walk up to confirm?
So on Friday, August 30th, Walker confirmations and walk up entries open at 12 p.m.
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12 p.m. at 2 p.m. is when that deadline is to confirm and enter.
Oh, wow.
So from 12 to 2, you know, I'm hoping everybody who's going to come to the Hoosier True Dog
Alliance meeting at 2 p.m. will be pre-entered, registered, ready to go.
That gives us a buffer to have our meeting and be out of there before it's time to draw
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a cast.
So that's where we're at there.
2 p.m. Friday.
Hoosier True Dog Alliance.
I'll tell you what, let's go through the schedule of events for Automux all the way from the
beginning.
Okay.
Tuesday, Tuesday, August 27th, there is going to be a wedding at 7 p.m.
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There's going to be a wedding at 7 p.m.
Bryce Matthews becomes Bryce Elbrich.
Oh my gosh.
At 8 p.m. is the entry deadline for the warm up slam.
Where at?
I don't have that information right in front of me right now.
You're going to need you to pull that up.
I believe that is down at Kevin Cables Club.
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Okay.
So that's 8 p.m.
And I know you can make it because Jamie E Step is going to be our minister and he's
also the master of hounds for that hunt.
So he's going to make it down there and be ready to go by 8 p.m.
Did you find where that is at?
Hi, give me just a second.
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Here we go.
Here we go.
All right.
Where is it?
Event add.
Drum roll please.
And.
Tuesday warm up slam.
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Ha, guess what?
I was right.
It's Liberty.
You are right.
Yes.
I was right.
Liberty.
Liberty, Indiana.
Yeah.
Actually, on the on the.
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On their ad, it does not say where it's at.
It says, oh, he picks it.
Man, you're killing.
We're killing it on this one.
I guess I was talking Tuesday style.
Dog and Tuesday style.
We told you guys this.
Hey, just just listen along.
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Enjoy the ride.
Sip a cup of coffee while you're at it.
First thing in the morning.
You might need it.
So go ahead, Bryce.
Okay.
Well, while he gets that figured out, Wednesday, 8 p.m.
There's going to be another warm up slam.
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That is August 28th.
Thursday, 5 to 6 p.m.
Is the confirmation for the national dual championship.
8 p.m.
There's the entry deadline for the warm up slam.
Friday.
Oh, do you figure it out?
Yeah.
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So is that the 27th?
The 27th is Tuesday.
So that is at Liberty, Indiana.
Hannah, Hannah Creek Conservation Coombe Club.
Oh, yeah.
I was right.
Oh, yeah.
I was right.
All right.
Wednesday, the 28th.
What's Wednesday, the 28th?
Um, Selma, Indiana.
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I was honestly getting ready to say that, but I thought that that was the club that they
canceled this year.
They found the new club and I bit my tongue.
Actually it says the 28th and 29th.
Yep.
Yep.
Selma, both nights there, 28th and 29th.
Friday, August 30th.
We just talked about it.
12 p.m. is the confirmation.
You missed one.
The Milwaukee Adventures.
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What I missed.
Thursday.
Thursday.
Thursday.
Bryce goes, goes for a new one for him.
With spot.
With spot.
So.
Thursday.
What time is the entry for confirmation for duals?
5 to 6 p.m.
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Confirmation for the national dual championship.
So let's explain, go ahead and explain the dual championship, Bryce.
Okay.
So for the national dual championship, your dog must be a champion on the bench and a
champion in the woods in order to compete for the national dual championship.
In that event, you will be hunting against dogs of the same breed that you are handling.
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Plots will hunt against plots, walkers against walkers, so on and so forth.
The winners of those casts will move on to the bench show on Friday.
Once you go against your own breed in the show, then they will bring out all the breeds
to crown the national dual champion.
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So that is how that.
This has only happened six years now and real quick, you got first ever was a plot and it
was Harold's Logan owned by Bill Harrell.
The second one you had 50 shades of gray leopard owned by Andy and Keith Emory and Curtis Elburn.
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Then you had Gilman's Rebels redneck row black and tan owned by David Gilman.
Next you had Sykes up easy money.
Michael Lester, then Bart's high dollar whiskey Bruce Bartz and last year was another plot.
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Midnight, Brendel Bindi.
You forgot the handler.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry, Scott.
I am Scott and Connie Hogan.
I apologize.
I got excited there.
Basham failed to mention the fact that he was handling Bart's high dollar whiskey.
I mean, to your own horn there for a second, buddy.
That's a big deal.
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Yeah, no, it was.
It was a great timing for what it was.
And that is, you know, listeners has heard that my dad's not always, he's not in great
health and my dad's always been one that's big high on the multifacets of the Coon town.
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He's big into the show world and the Coon hunting world all together.
So when in that and then the champ was up there with me.
So I was able to share that with my dad and, you know, my daughter and, you know, obviously
with Bruce and his family.
And so it just, it meant a lot.
It meant a lot to be able to win something like that that really embodied what my, you
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know, what I grew up in.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That's awesome.
So Friday, 12 p.m.
We talked about it, confirmations and walk up entries for Friday night's hunt and 2 p.m.
is the deadline to confirm and enter.
It will also be the Hoosier tree dog Alliance meeting 2 p.m.
Friday, August 30th.
4 p.m. is the cast call out in the Coolman Center.
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Saturday, August 31st, 12 p.m.
Confirmations and walk up entries open for Saturday's hunt.
2 p.m.
They close 4 p.m.
Class call out again in the Coolman Center.
That is your hunt schedule for the 2024 automokes.
So we're gonna go a little bit off track, just a hair from me and Bryce's norm.
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Let's talk about the show world, bud.
Okay, yeah, we can do it.
Hey, you know, anybody that doesn't know Bryce's soon to be last name, Bryce is Elburn, you
know, anybody that does not understand, they're big in the show world.
So they've done a lot of winning up there.
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So the show part of this is a big, big ordeal in his family.
It is.
Soon to be family.
It is.
It's massive for them.
You know, they've won this event a few times.
They actually won it last year with the Red Bone, Wallbash River Lost Highway.
So he is your reigning national champion.
He's a super, super pretty dog, well built.
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He's sound.
He meets the breed standards.
And that's something that Curtis Elburn and his daughters have strived for for many, many
years.
So the show is a big deal in our family.
As much as I don't understand it, I support it.
So yes, I said that.
I don't understand dogs that just stand around and look pretty, but that's what they do.
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So Wednesday, I'm gonna run through these pretty quick.
There's a big list here, guys.
So Wednesday, August 28th from 330 to 430, you can confirm walk up entries.
You can confirm your pre entries and walk up entries are open 330 to 430 Wednesday, August
28th, Thursday, August 29th, 9am.
Confirmations and walk up entries begin 10am.
They close at 1030.
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The confirmation Kuhnhound specialty begins in ring one.
You will have judge Felicity Trammell and in ring one, you will have the American leopard
hound, the blue tit Kuhnhound, the plot hound and the red bone Kuhnhound.
In ring two, judge Timothy Catterson in ring in ring two as well, you will have the junior
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showmanship.
You will have the American black and tan Kuhnhound, the English Kuhnhound in the train Walker Kuhnhound.
That is for your confirmation show on Thursday, August 29th.
Friday, August 30th, 8am entries open 9am entries close 930am.
The bench show begins with ring one.
Your judge will be Penny Turner.
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She will have the American black and tan Kuhnhounds, the American leopard hounds, blue tit Kuhnhounds,
English Kuhnhounds and she will also judge the best male of show.
Ring two, you will have judge Christina Officer given the nod.
She will be judging the plot hounds, the red bone Kuhnhounds, train Walker Kuhnhounds and
she will be awarding the best female of show.
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At 12pm, the national dual championship begins in ring one for the dual champions.
You will have the judge Miss Penny Turner in in ring with that judge.
Penny Turner, she will be judging the black and tan Kuhnhounds, leopards, blue ticks and
English ring two.
Miss Christina Officer will follow suit with the plot hounds, red bones and train Walker's
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and she will be given the nod to your overall dual champion.
That will come from Miss Christina Officer.
Saturday August 31st, 8am, confirmations begin, 9am, confirmations close.
930, your bent show begins with ring one, your judge will be Christina Officer, she will
have the American black and tan, American leopard hounds, blue tit Kuhnhounds, English
Kuhnhounds and she will give the nod to the champion male.
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Ring two, judge Penny Turner, your champions, excuse me, she will have the plot hound, the
red bone hounds, train Walker's and she will also select the champion female.
There will be a kid show that begins immediately following the conclusion of the champion class.
UKC staff will judge that.
That is for all of your registered dogs and your champion dogs.
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The grand champion class will begin following the conclusion of the kid show.
In ring one, judge Christina Officer, she will be choosing between the American black
and tan Kuhnhounds, American leopard hounds, blue tit Kuhnhounds and the English Kuhnhounds.
Judge Penny Turner and the grand champions will be in ring two with the plot hounds,
red bones, train Walker's.
So we want to say good luck and congratulations to whoever is going to become the winner of
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that event.
Just congratulations in advance.
That's a big deal.
So thank you to judge Penny Turner, Christina Officer.
So you can see guys that it's a big deal.
I mean they go all out.
If you've ever been up there, I mean they put on a whole show.
I mean, it's it's a real deal.
And now I'm going to put Bryce on the spot.
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When did Curtis win the show up at automobes and with what dog?
With him handling.
Yep.
Oh God.
I'm going to say it was, I don't know the year, but I'm going to say it was with the
leopard hound swirl.
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Wrong.
Oh, 1989 national grand champion grand champion PR, Wabash River, Shadow, Red Bone owned
by Curtis Elburn.
They had a dog named swirl a.
Didn't win the automobes.
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A leopard hound.
Now I think what she ended up winning was the Purina race.
He has a he has a painting of her in his house.
So while you were going through, I was looking to see how many.
So in that family, you have to Andy, one one and Curtis one one.
Yep.
Yep.
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I was curious, I was curious with, you know, especially with how many years Curtis has
been going there.
I didn't, I wanted to look way back, you know, in the early days to see if, see if there was
a time where we didn't.
Yeah.
Curtis has also won the hunt portion too.
Oh, has he?
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Yep.
Do you know what year?
Hmm.
It was the year that it was the year that was held at Logan's Port, I believe.
That I don't have a clue.
I want to say like 80 80 something.
Did he own it or just handle it?
God, I wish I could tell you.
I'm just going off story.
Oh, there's, there's, there's a bash on the 1977 national grand night champion, grand
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night champion bash on Sue English Coonhound owned by Charles Basham.
I don't even know who he is.
Yeah.
So, uh, yeah, I don't remember the year, but he's told me that story, that it was the
year that it was held at Logan's Port that he, he won the hunt portion.
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So I wonder if he won like a registered portion because it's not in the grand nights.
Yeah, it might have been.
I don't know the specifics.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One thing I forgot to mention during the show, judge Penny Turner, she will crown your national
grand show champion and Christina officer will crown the opposite sex national grand
show champion.
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So that is, that's it for autumn hopes guys.
I mean, it's at the Wayne County fairgrounds, Richmond, Indiana, August 29th, the September
1st is the official dates.
It is one of my favorite weeks of the year.
Like Basham said, the camaraderie is second to none, the dogs that you'll see there, the
vendors, it's unlike anything else you can see in the country really.
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So I'm super excited about it.
What's your first memory?
What's your first memory of autumn oaks?
Your first lasting memory?
Well, my first memory of autumn oaks was I was, I was helping out Nick Gill and with
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nightlife kennel and he had a booth up there that he asked me to come work and we were,
I was making some videos for him and stuff and work scheduled me a mandatory double the
night before I was on second shift and it was mandatory overtime and I ended up having
to work a double.
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I remember driving to autumn oaks.
I got off work as the sun was coming up, drove straight to Richmond, Indiana, slept for about
35 minutes in my truck, got up, worked the booth and went home.
That was my first memory of autumn oaks.
Anybody that does not know Bryce Matthews, he does not work on no sleep.
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Absolutely not.
He is one that I think it's well documented between me and Nicky that even if he rides
in the passenger seat, this man has to get his shut eye.
Oh yeah, it doesn't matter where it's at.
I mean, I can sleep anywhere, but I'm going to get those hours of sleeping.
Like it's going to happen.
He's got it.
I mean, we call it beauty sleep, but we're still waiting on that to work.
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So, I mean, just look at me like a Greek God.
Good thing you're on the radio and not on the video.
All right.
Well, that's covered for that.
You got anything else that you want to throw in here on this episode?
No, it's just, you know, it's a busy time.
You know, I'm headed to Lebanon.
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I'm headed to Lebanon Friday night hunting for a brand new truck, brand new Colorado.
What doggy hunt?
I'm going to hunt both.
Well, tell me both.
You got like four dogs in the house.
I know it.
I'm going to, I think I'm going to pull, oh, star out early.
And then, because just her style, she's, she's more about, you know, hot tracks and spots
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more well rounded.
So I'm going to pull him out late round.
So I'll hunt star early and hunt spot late.
And if I get lucky enough and I get them both in, then I've already had a conversation with
Jeffrey and him or Ben, he's going to have to jump in the truck and high tell it to Lebanon,
Kentucky a little early.
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It'll probably be Ben just because Jeffrey's got to pull the camper up for all the moats.
So it'll probably be Ben running up to handle star.
That's probably what'll happen.
But go straight from there.
Probably get back here sometime on Sunday, grab the trailer, pack up a few clothes and
head to Richmond so I can meet up with the guy that I'm getting my camper from.
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You'll be hunting spot right after that.
Guys, you roll right into everybody knows this schedule.
You know, I think it's well documented.
You roll right into the zones for UKC that very next week, the week of the world hunt.
You have two monumental hunts that clash.
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You have PKC false super stakes going on in Salem, Illinois.
And then you also have the world championship Thursday, Friday and Saturday, which is actually
in Illinois this year.
It's in Illinois, right?
Yep.
Sure is.
Yeah.
So you've got both big hunts in Illinois.
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It's going to be a huge, huge week.
So at least I will say this.
At least if somebody does get into both, like I've done multiple times, if you lose on Thursday,
you ain't got far to drive to go to false super stakes.
That's true.
That's true.
Hey, I want to give a shout out to a hunt that happened here this last weekend at the
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Reading Michigan club.
They had the very first ever 27 dog format pro slam, the bandit bash.
I want to give a shout out to first place when in $7,500.
That was the midnight wax star owned by J Miller, Tracy Thompson, Matt Coons and Carlisle Miller,
handled by Mr. Matt Coons.
That is a eight year old train Walker.
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So congratulations to wax star.
Second place winning $3,200 was Froggers on Fire, two year old train Walker male owned
by Birchle Davis.
And he was handled by Birchle Davis in the early round in dual Murphy handled in the
final cast.
So congratulations to them picking up $3,200.
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Third place winning $2,000 was she's a bit shady at four year old train Walker female
owned by Derek Mills and Denny Goodman, handled by Cody Sype.
So congratulations to them, those handlers, those dogs for making the final three of the
very first ever 27 dog format post slam.
Yes, sir.
Big congratulations.
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One thing that we wanted to bring up guys a little bit off topic.
This is a portion of our podcast that we wish we never had to do.
We wish things like this never happened.
But here in the hunting world, you know, you get close to people and you know people.
And when things happen, we all band together, come together.
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And that is our buddy down in Louisiana, Casey Dooley.
Quick, quick story about Casey was I hand or I was guiding on the final cast whenever
he won Superstakes and he was kind of like right now, he was kind of, you know, counted
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out in that hunt.
He really didn't have no chance of winning.
And at the very last minute here, he comes rushing in and boom, old stoner got it done
and won the Superstakes.
So like I said, guys, Bryce is going to go over a few things that he knows about.
There is an auction going on.
If you could get on Facebook, look this up and just help out in any way.
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We would we would much appreciate it.
Mr. Casey Dooley needs all our prayers, thoughts and all of our support.
Yeah, guys, if you go to Facebook and you type in the stud dog auction and benefit for
Casey Dooley, you're going to find the public group there.
And you know, I would be speaking tongue in cheek if I tried to guess how many dogs there
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have been stud fees donated for on this page.
We're going to go through I'm just going to name a couple of them.
We've got Frogger with Bertil Davis, T bone Jacob Bingham, Backwood Shaq, Cheyenne Gent,
Cummins, full throttle heads up, Nikki Hale, guys, all the big name dogs.
We've got a red bone in here.
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Crooked River Red Turkey by TJ Boll and another red bone, Mosquito Creek, Hank by Jack Bingham.
We've got red bones.
We've got walkers.
There are blue ticks in here.
There's English dogs.
Grant Whitmer donated breeding for Striker and Hellfire.
So you can get on there to the stud dog auction benefit for Casey Dooley.
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You can go through the comments, see what the high bid is and place your bid.
The bid will end September 3rd.
So scroll through there.
If you've got a female that's getting ready to come in season and you're looking for something
to breed or two, you're not sure what it is.
Hop on there and just see what's out there.
If nothing else, this shows you what dogs are available that are standing at stud.
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You've got Charlie Creek Big Mike here.
Excuse me.
No, it is, yeah, Charlie Creek Big Mike by Dick Brothers.
I thought that it was Timer for a second, but this is Charlie Creek Big Mike by Dick
Brothers is on there.
We've got Triple Oak Luke by Gunner Nut.
Prophet Chadford Tool and Kyle Hildebrand.
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Guys, there's all kinds of stuff.
Money shot, Lane Denny.
You can get on there and just look around.
Heck, there's even a squirrel dog on here.
Little Sniper, Miles Miller.
It's just a really good deal.
We're going to raise all that money for Casey Dooley and that's all going to go help cover
his medical expenses.
So prayers for Casey.
Yes, sir.
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Prayers, prayers, prayers.
Anything else big guy?
I don't think so, man.
I'm about run out of bullets here shooting from the hip.
How far are we into this?
Only 46 minutes.
Hey, that's not bad.
That's not bad.
This is so guys, this was kind of an impromptu.
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Casey and Bryce realized that, oh snap, we've got one due on Friday.
And so we wanted to sit down and it was kind of a cool to just shoot from the hip and go
over some of the events that are coming up.
Some of the events that, you know, obviously a big day for Bryce.
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Like I said, everybody shout out to him.
Best wishes to him and Nikki and their future endeavors.
And it's pretty special that they get to do it in a place like Audemars.
With so much family history and then, like I said, capping it all off.
Spot is the dog where it all started.
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And to be able to hunt him and I think that would be pretty awesome if he was able to
hook up and score a big win up there that would really cap off for a wedding present,
being able to win something with spot or wheels.
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That would be neat.
So like I said, guys, it's just a good time.
Come up to Richmond, Indiana, see us hang out with us.
We, SimperDoggan, was going to have a booth up there.
But with everything going on, the wedding, just everything, me and Bryce made a business
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decision that sometimes friends and family come before business.
And this week was about friends and family and hanging out.
So we have, we're going to keep our stuff packed up.
We are going to have it on site.
We are going to have it there.
We're going to do a few interviews here and there.
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Like we've told you before, if you've got a cool story or a story that you really want
told or you got a grandpa and this might be one of his last years because of how far you
travel or whatever.
Get with us.
We'll get him down, get him recorded, get some memories down on the old electronic recorder
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so that it's there forever and make memories.
But we will have our stuff with us.
Hit us up.
We will not have an actual booth set up this year.
Now, we'll have something way better.
We'll sit around a campfire or something in the early nights of the week and do, you know,
do a very low key, very chill.
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Like I said, guys, sometimes friends and family mean more than business.
And so we decided to kind of keep everything packed up and just enjoy this week.
Enjoy this week together as friends, as brothers, as family and just have a good time.
So that's what we're going to do.
I've got people coming from Mississippi.
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Maryland versus going to be there Wednesday.
So big Coon hunting family that, you know, that's where we all meet up at.
So yeah, absolutely.
Looking forward to it.
All right, brother.
Well, I'm going to get off here.
I'm going to continue to go pack the camper and get everything ready to go for this week.
And well, you know what I want to do.
You going hunting?
Yeah, I'm hunting for a living now.
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So I've got dogs down there barking and they need to go.
Okay.
Well, I've got a young female that you just need to take with you and hunt for me, you
know, friends and family come before business.
So remember that whenever you see me the big guy, I got two fall one year olds.
This is their last week with me.
And then they go back to their, um, back to their homes, which I'm telling you, you need
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to find you a drive line pup.
Actually, actually real quick before we hop off here, have you seen the post that Jeffrey
Davis and Ben's been sharing about those two spot pups?
No.
So spots got a pup off of spotting beauty, the beauty dog that Greg Maynard had seven
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months old doing it natural.
Really?
I mean, five, 600 yards away from other dogs, Korean having cones looking and we call him
spot junior.
So go, go to Jeffrey's Facebook page or Ben's Facebook page and you'll see where he shared
it looks identical to spot.
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Yeah, I'll do that.
Dude, I'm telling you, I had a, I bred a litter of drive line pups and I wish I had one right
now.
Oh, and by the way, so Shane messaged me.
This is a little knock on Shane, Shane messaged me and he said, man, I might have to look
in to get me a spot pup.
He said, how is it that I am the breeder and handler of one of the most famous black headed
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dogs ever?
And I can't get a black headed dog.
So then he sent me a picture of that tan.
Oh my gosh.
You talk about the running hand that come out in that dog.
Oh my goodness.
But hey, he got his wish.
He got a black headed dog later in the night.
Yeah, but you know what's going to happen that blacks going to turn all red?
Probably, yeah, that's funny.
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So yeah, thanks to Shane over there for talking about him outdoors.
Appreciate it.
Big shout out to, uh, oh, I've seen, hey, real quick, go over some of the stuff that
Joey's been posting with the cooler and all that other stuff that you've been sharing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, super.
I mean, like I said, I've not really looked into it yet.
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I need to.
But uh, was super, super impressed with, you know, just the look of it and how sturdy
it looked, you know, the colors of it.
Yeah.
I mean, hey, I think Joey go forth is into many different things, many different endeavors.
And we appreciate him.
If you have any need for any off road parts for your side by side or your full will or
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whatever, go see Joey go forth.
It never satisfied off road.
He supports us.
Support him also with Shane Smith and his business endeavors too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It looked like a nice lime green cooler there.
I didn't get a chance to look at all the details that they had for sale over there.
It never satisfied off road.
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So, um, I'll check into that when we get off here, but all right, man, I got to go get
this camper pack to get this episode uploaded.
We got to get it after it.
So I'm ready for autumn ups.
All right.
I'll see you soon.
But all right guys, well catch us on the next one.
Um, dog and Tuesday may or may not happen depends on if Basham goes live at the wedding.
It depends on how many briskies I have.
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All right guys, we will catch you later on the next episode of Semper Dogging.
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