August 21, 2025 • 39 mins
What if the key to deeper connection isn't retreating into what's safe, but venturing further into the unknown? This conversation with Eli Hauber, founder of From Here to Human, explores a powerful paradox that could transform how we relate to ourselves and others.
Eli shares the origins of his "Go Further, Draw Closer" philosophy, born from profound experiences in Uganda where he found himself alone in villages that hadn't seen outsiders in decades. These moments of extreme vulnerability—stripped of comfort, connectivity, and familiarity—revealed something unexpected: our deepest connections often emerge when we're furthest from what we know.
At the heart of this approach are three guiding principles: being curiosity-fueled (using wonder as your compass), intention-guided (moving through the world with care and purpose), and boundary-defying (pushing past limitations that keep us isolated). Through vivid storytelling, Eli demonstrates how these principles have shaped his interactions across cultural divides and how they can be applied in everyday life—whether traveling abroad or simply choosing to stay and watch your child's practice instead of running errands.
What makes this conversation particularly compelling is its practical wisdom for addressing our epidemic of loneliness. Rather than grand gestures, Eli advocates for small, intentional steps toward connection—having an ice cream conversation, volunteering locally, or simply being present with those around you. Each choice leaves what he calls an "eternal imprint" on the people and places we touch.
As Eli prepares to launch Project RICH (Revealing Interconnection to Catalyze Harmony), he invites listeners to reconsider what truly connects us across our differences. In a world increasingly defined by division, this fresh perspective offers hope that by venturing beyond our comfort zones, we might discover the shared humanity that unites us all.
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Eli Hauber (00:07):
In a world where we can feel so isolated, going
further, becoming closer withthe world and with the people
around us, and even withourselves, allows us to put into
perspective where we are in theworld and how we are really
just one people on a tiny rockfloating in space.
So when you think about it likethat, it really puts into
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perspective of, like, whatmatters and what do I want out
of the hundred years that I mayhave on this little rock, and
how do I want to be remembered.
And when we become closer withothers, we really start to
reflect on the impact that ourchoices and our decisions have
on those lives, and so peoplewho we would otherwise be
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divided with or disconnectedfrom become part of this fabric
of humanity that ties us alltogether because of the things
we have in common.
John Hauber (01:04):
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Kelsie Heermans (01:36):
Welcome back everyone.
Today's guest is Eli Hauber,born and raised in Colorado
Springs, Colorado.
Eli is a student, worldtraveler, storyteller and the
founder of From here to Human, aglobal movement amplifying the
hopeful, unifying and inspiringuntold stories of our world.
Eli is passionate about helpingothers bridge cultural divides
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through honest conversation,photography and immersive
experiences.
Currently a student at UNC,chapel Hill, studying business
and global studies, eli willspend his junior year abroad, in
France, using that time tolaunch Project Rich short for
Revealing Interconnection toCatalyze Harmony, a storytelling
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initiative grounded in thebelief that highlighting our
shared humanity can be theantidote to division.
Whether he's camping in theSahara, our shared humanity can
be the antidote to division.
Whether he's camping in theSahara, filming on the streets
of Istanbul or swapping storiesin Ugandan villages, eli lives
by the idea that to trulyunderstand others and ourselves,
we must leave behind what'sfamiliar and comfortable.
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His motto go further, drawcloser.
His motto Go Further, DrawCloser invites us to step into
unfamiliar places, overlookstories and uncomfortable
conversations to draw closer tothe world and each other.
John.
John Hauber (02:54):
Thanks, Kelsie.
Today we're unpacking a paradoxhow going further, not pulling
back, might be the most powerfulway to draw closer to others,
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to ourselves and to life itself.
Today, my guest is Eli, andyou've heard an overview of my
son, and so welcome to the show,Eli hey thanks, dad, thanks for
having me.
Eli Hauber (03:35):
No problem so let's get into it.
So, Eli, can you take us backto a moment or experience when
the phrase going further to drawcloser really is the
culmination of my lifeexperiences?
So to pick one particularexperience is a tough one, but
I'm drawn to this particularmoment during my summer last
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year, when I had the opportunityto travel to Uganda alone as an
intern for an organizationcalled All we Are that works to
bring renewable, sustainable andaffordable energy solutions to
schools and healthcare clinicsacross rural parts of the
country, and during my time offin air quotes, I decided to
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travel seven hours north toanother town that had previously
been very affected by civil warand conflict, and so I think
that's kind of the first pointthat I want to make is that my
assumptions and introduction tothis place was that it was
war-torn, dangerous, had ahistory of violence and
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destruction, and so I kind oftook that step to go further
than maybe my comfort zone wouldhave told me or what my family
members or people advising mewould have said, to go there or
not.
And I just decided to do it,and out of that experience I was
able to work at a school for aday and run this sort of
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leadership mentorship workshopat a high school in Gulu is the
name of the town no-transcript.
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In some ways and other ways Icouldn't, but I think engaging
in that conversation or themultiple different conversations
at that place allowed me toexperience for the first time
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the becoming closer elementafter we go further, as we
became closer to that place, toits people, to its history, that
I wouldn't have otherwise beenable to do.
And it wasn't just me whoexemplified this philosophy or
this paradox at this particularevent, which was this Q&A
meeting, one of the students whohappened to be in the room his
name I won't disclose forprivacy reasons, but he was one
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of three students that came upto me after we were done talking
and the Q&A session andworkshop was over and he just
continued to ask more and morequestions.
He went further and he wanted toconnect and to become closer
with me and with who I was, whatI was doing, and I, in return,
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got to become closer to who hewas and what he wanted to do and
through that just stepping intothe unknown and stepping into
connection with me and viceversa, me with him we were able
to form this bond where we'vebeen able to stay in contact.
I've been able to support himin his own pursuits and dreams
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from a distance, and I willforever have a tie to that place
, to its people and really tothat memory, whether it
influences the things that I do,moving forward for me or for
him, I think is what makes allthe differences.
We now are brothers when weotherwise did would never have
made that connection that'sawesome.
John Hauber (07:37):
You know, I love that story.
Uh, you, you know, told it tome in the past, but, but it's a
beautiful story.
So how, growing closer toothers, how does that make you
feel?
Eli Hauber (07:51):
It makes me feel connected and part of something
bigger than myself.
In a world where we can feel soisolated and alone and almost
maybe fighting for ourselvesalone and almost maybe fighting
for ourselves, going further,becoming closer with the world
and with the people around us,and even with ourselves, allows
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us to put into perspective wherewe are in the world and how we
are really just one people on atiny rock floating in space, oh
yeah.
So when you think about it likethat, it really puts into
perspective of like what mattersand what do I want out of the
hundred years that I may have onthis little rock and how do I
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want to be remembered.
And when we become closer withothers, we really start to
reflect on the impact that ourchoices and our decisions have
on those lives.
And all of a sudden, a strangerwho would otherwise be
insignificant in our lives, whenwe choose to go further into
connection with that person,they become a brother, they
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become a sister, a grandma,grandpa, a mom or a dad that we
wouldn't have otherwise had, andthat person and their extended
family and all their connectionsall of a sudden have a
different significance in ourheart and in our mind, and so
people who we would otherwise bedivided with or disconnected
from, become part of this I liketo call like a fabric of
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humanity that ties us alltogether.
Because of the things we have incommon, like my relationship
with the gentleman or the youngman in Uganda.
Our upbringing, our situations,our lifestyles couldn't be more
different, Our skin colorcouldn't be more different, but
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it was this shared passion formaking the world a better place
and our shared Christianity thatbrought us together in that
moment, and, rather thanallowing myself to push away
from him because of he wouldn'tunderstand who I am or I
wouldn't understand who he is, Idecided to just step into that
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unknown and into that discomfortand that awkward conversation
at first to see where it wouldgo, and it turns out that it
blossomed into something superbeautiful, and so, really, I
think it's that connection andsense of perspective of where we
are in the world, and whatreally matters is, I think, how
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that going further makes me feel.
John Hauber (10:27):
How is this mindset that you have, and you've had
it for quite a while how's itshaped the way you live and move
through the world in the pastand now?
Eli Hauber (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.
I think I want to kind of giveyou three points, that kind of
outline how that perspective Imean what that perspective
actually is.
What does it mean to go furtherand and draw closer?
And how do we kind of live, howdo I live that out in my life,
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and maybe how your viewers cando that for themselves.
And so these are kind of thethree points that I've
identified that break down thisphilosophy or maybe way of life.
I don't know how the best way todescribe it is, but the first
way I would describe it is it'scuriosity fueled, and so if
we're able to have curiosity, beour compass in life and seek
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not to find answers but widenour understanding and
perspective of the world,ourselves and others in it, to
go further means to step intothe unknown, like I've said,
with wonder.
So step into the unknown withwonder and lean into discomfort
with courage.
And so it's this.
It's kind of this just approachto walking through life with
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open eyes and an open heart andan open mind to what may be
uncomfortable or what we maybelieve to be wrong, but seeing
it through the eyes of somebodyelse.
And in that exchange and inthat perspective we can begin to
foster and find connection andhumility with people who we
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otherwise might not have beenable to do that if our mind was
closed and our heart was closedas well.
So that's point one.
Curiosity fueled Second isgoing to be intention guided.
In a world where it's alwayschanging, always moving,
headlines are short and often weconsume in 15, 10, 15 segments.
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Going further to become closeror to draw closer means to move
with care.
To go further is really to walkwith intention, to create,
connect and explore in ways thatuphold our own integrity, our
own values, what we believe andhold to be true, while still
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being able to honor the lives ofothers, so that we can leave
this earth knowing that we lefta positive, eternal imprint on
the lives and places, that wecan leave this earth knowing
that we left the positiveeternal imprint on the lives and
places that we touch.
And so in previousconversations and presentations
I've given across the country, Italk about this idea of every
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choice, every word, every actionthat we choose to make, say or
do leaves this eternal imprinton the places and people that we
touch or come into contact withthroughout our lives.
And if we can be curiosityfueled and intention guided in
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our life.
I can almost guarantee you thatyou will leave a positive
imprint that you, your lovedones and the people you look up
to will be proud of when youleave the world.
And that is, in a nutshell, howwe can make the world a better
place at a very individual scaleJust having the mindset of how
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can I leave a positive imprinton the lives in the landscapes
that I touch.
So intention guided number two.
And then finally, number threeboundary defying.
I think everyone knows thatboundaries shape our reality.
They define how we see, how wefeel, how we connect with the
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world.
To go further is to push pastour own boundaries and open
ourselves up to the world that'swaiting to be discovered on the
other side.
That can be something as simpleas a fence dividing you and
your neighbor.
That can be a boundary in yourlife that may prevent you from
connecting with your neighbor,but you can go around that fence
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and knock on their front doorand connect with them that way.
It may be a fear that you grewup with or something in your
childhood that's preventing youfrom connecting with a family
member or a parent or a teacheror someone in your life that may
have put up boundaries toprevent you from going further,
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and so defying boundaries isdefying expectations, defying
those borders that people haveput up to keep us apart, and if
we're able to go beyond that andtranscend those boundaries, we
can become closer by goingfurther.
So those are my three pointsCuriosity-fueled,
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intention-guided andboundary-defying is what it
means to go further.
John Hauber (15:36):
That's awesome, as you know, and we're going to get
a little vulnerable here.
I'm going to ask you a questionhere, and that is there's
always yin and yang in the world, right, there's evil and
there's good, and so how isgrowing your external reach
aimed at the expense of your owninner peace and closeness?
Eli Hauber (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, another good question.
I think I want to flip thequestion on itself and kind of
go back to what I said earlierabout how going further to draw
closer isn't just drawing'tbecome closer with the world and
with others.
You actually experience thatisolation and that loneliness
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that I said can happen if wechoose not to become closer with
the world and with others.
And so when you asked mepreviously about how does it
make me feel to become closer,to draw closer, I said it makes
me feel connected and it makesme, it gives me this perspective
of the world in which I live in, and that gratitude and
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perspective allows me to kind ofdiscover my own place in the
world and draw closer to myself.
And so I feel that actuallygoing through this exercise and
going out into the world whetherthat's your own neighborhood,
your state, your country, othercountries, another continent
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actually allows you to find yourown inner peace, because it
allows you to see how you'reconnected to so much more than
just what you've been able tosee in your world thus far.
You're connected to people whodon't speak the same language.
You're connected to people whopractice different religions,
who work in different yogs, whobelieve different things vote
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for different people, and soit's that knowing that there's
so much more, that's bigger thanourselves, that actually allows
us to have the humility andperspective of humanity that
makes us feel like we're notalone.
And so that's where I findpeace is that I can go anywhere
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in the world, and laughter canbe a language that every single
person can speak.
We all want to be loved andlove somebody else, and so it's
those things that keep ustogether, despite all of the
differences that are seeminglytearing us apart in the world
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right now.
So I don't know how well thatanswers your question, but I
actually think that goingthrough all this helps me
maintain my inner peace andhelps me find myself, rather
than me having to go and dosomething extra to maintain who
I am and my peace because I'mdoing all of this extra stuff.
John Hauber (18:32):
That's a great answer, eli, and one of the
areas I was getting to is movingyou toward more vulnerability
in regards to your story, andthat is that, as we get closer
to people, we, to feel aconnection to others, requires
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us to be vulnerable, and so whydo you think distance physically
, emotionally or otherwise cansometimes be what actually helps
us connect more deeply?
Eli Hauber (19:05):
I think it's the lack of distance that helps us
connect more deeply, notdistance itself.
So it's shrinking the gapbetween people, between places,
and actually experiencing it forourselves, rather than seeing
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it through the television orFacebook or Instagram or
LinkedIn with that place, withwhatever it is, at a deeper
level, and be able to form anopinion for ourselves based on
how we feel when we actuallydrop ourselves into that place
or with that person.
John Hauber (19:53):
Let's go to the area I want to go to.
Okay, so you were in Uganda andyou were there for a month
serving the individuals in someof the poorest villages and one
of the richest schools in Uganda.
And, in your experience, howdoes leaving the familiar help
us see others in ourselves moreclearly?
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So, for example, you went toUganda, you left the familiar,
yep, you went into theunfamiliar.
And then you even went moreinto the unfamiliar by having to
be with yourself and thinking,oh my God, what have I done?
Right, you remember thatinstance.
Eli Hauber (20:34):
Yeah, yeah, I traveled to Uganda by myself and
that experience of seeing,smelling, hearing, feeling the
things that I was for the firsttime, and I was traveling and
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spending nights in villages thathadn't seen a white man in 40,
50 years, and so that sense ofisolation where, going back to
this idea of an eternal imprint,you feel or I guess I felt such
a profound pressure on myshoulders to do say all of the
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right things because I wasessentially representing every
single person that ever lookedlike me, past, present or future
perhaps.
And so stepping into anenvironment like that, where I
was experiencing that thatfeeling and that overwhelming
pressure for the first time, andso I didn't necessarily know
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how to deal with it, and when Iwould go back to my
accommodations in the afternoon,I, with no Wi-Fi, no connection
, no internet, no anything, justme and my thoughts, laying in a
bed all alone, I think is theepitome in my life of going
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further, is I was about as faras I could get into discomfort
and into the unknown that Inearly, like nearly broke, and
that's not healthy by any means,and I would not encourage any
of the listeners to takeyourself to that point where you
literally don't know what to dobecause there's so much around
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you that you can't possiblybegin to understand or
comprehend, and all you want todo is help alleviate the
suffering of those people inthat place.
And so that's not the agendathat I'm trying to push is
getting you to that point.
And so that's not the agendathat I'm trying to push is
getting you to that point.
It's just the idea of takingthis super small, simple steps
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to just become closer with maybeeven the people in your own
house first, and then extend itto the community.
Volunteer once a week is evengoing further, to become closer
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with the people who even justlive in your own community.
And so, going back to myexperience, I think that time
hours, every single day, that Ihad to just sit and think, I
think it was the most chaoticform of meditation I could have
ever experienced, becausethere's this longing sense and
like nagging sense of justwanting to do something while
also feeling so incrediblyhelpless at the same time.
And so being in thatenvironment with that mindset
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and that state of mind forced meto lean on the support of
others rather than just goingthrough life counting on myself.
I had to again be vulnerableand say I need your help.
Can you help me with this?
I need directions here.
How do I get food?
Can you point me in the rightdirection?
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I couldn't do it all, and soleaning on others allowed me to
realize that we're not alone inthe world, and there are people
all around us who areexperiencing the exact same
thing, and sometimes all theyneed is someone to help them,
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and when someone helps them,they in turn want to help
someone else.
And that's where I feel, then,that kind of desire, and so it's
not a one-way street, like whenyou need help.
There will be people there tohelp you, because people were
there to help them.
But for people to be there tohelp them, you have to be that
person as well, and so it's amatter of giving everything you
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have to others and expectingnothing in return, and by doing
so, we all or you as the persongiving everything gets to enjoy
the success and the triumph andjoy of others for the rest of
your life, and if you're able tolive in that way and inspire
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others to do the same, the karmawill come back to you, because
you're not expecting it in waysthat you couldn't even imagine.
So I think that's how I drewcloser to myself was knowing
that I couldn't do everythingand I wasn't a superhero, and in
my life I need other people tohelp me get to where I want to
go.
John Hauber (25:28):
Yeah, thank you for being vulnerable.
I mean that was one time inyour life that you really you
were alone.
I mean you felt alone.
So that segues into what weface throughout the world, I
think, and more in America, andthat is we have an epidemic of
loneliness.
So what advice would you giveto someone who's afraid to take
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that step away from what'sfamiliar and sometimes just
being in your house alone allthe time is familiar, right?
Eli Hauber (25:59):
Right.
John Hauber (25:59):
Not getting out and volunteering or not.
What would you recommend?
Eli Hauber (26:06):
Yeah, I think I kind of previously mentioned like
you don't have to do huge,massive trips around the world
In order to become closer withthe world.
You can do something as simpleas something your community, you
could.
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I mean just just an idea thatpops into my head is like if you
have kids, instead of droppingthem off at practice and going
to run errands, stay at practice, watch practice, let your kids
see that you want to becomecloser to them and to what they
love and in turn you can drawcloser to them.
And so it doesn't have to besome like massive grand gesture
where you're going to the otherside of the world and given your
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time to do this Q&A sessionwith 70 kids.
It can be something as simpleas just taking your kid to ice
cream or saying yes toMcDonald's on the way home.
This small gesture of just notonly your own gratitude for them
in your life, but just to sitat a table where every single
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person is happy and have aconversation because everyone's
in a good mood, and just seeingwhere that goes and being
curious and having it be withintention obviously, like go
into it with an intention todraw closer to whoever you get
to share that meal with.
And then I think just by sayingyes to mcdonald's you're gonna
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make your kids think they'redefying boundaries.
John Hauber (27:36):
So yeah, that segues into great.
What are?
You know, what are the habits,practices, mindset shifts that
help you keep living out thisidea.
Eli Hauber (27:50):
Yeah, I think a lot of it is encapsulated in my
three goals for myself.
I know Kelsey mentioned thatI'm going to be going to France
and all over Europe next year,as probably next year maybe, and
probably by the time you'relistening to this it's going to
be I'll probably already be overthere.
I'll be leaving in a few days,but I'll be spending a year over
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in France studying, and so kindof going back to this intention
thing is like what are myintentions for that experience
and how do I want to make themost of that experience?
And so, in addition to thiswhole idea of being fueled by
curiosity and the things we'vealready talked about in relation
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to that, I kind of just want togive my own, like you said,
habits.
I think habits can form aroundthese goals, to not only like
achieve them by the end of myyear when I get back on that
plane home, but also everysingle night when I go to bed
and I can say that was a goodday because I achieved these
three goals or I made progresstowards these three goals.
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And so maybe for, if you'relistening, the first step
towards creating habits to livethis way of going further, to
draw closer is just settinggoals for yourself every day,
that kind of.
They don't have to mirror thisphilosophy, but I think that
they should be in somewhataligned with, again, being
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intention driven.
The goals should kind of alignwith this idea of wanting to
draw closer to the people inyour life and the places that
you go.
So here are my three goals forthis crazy adventure that I'm
about to go on.
Number one lean into learning.
This is regardless of thecapacity, the setting or the
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teacher.
Again, I want to allowcuriosity to take the wheel,
guiding me away from thefamiliar and towards a richer
understanding of the world andmy place in it.
And so this can be likelearning in the classroom, as I
actually will be studying whileI'm studying abroad, even though
it's only two days a week, butthis could be in the streets of
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Paris, taking the extra step totry to translate a sign in my
head rather than just pullingout my phone using Google
Translate.
And so lean into that learningin everything we do and leaving
it open-ended, like having theseopen-ending goals, where it's
so broad, allows you to achievethese goals in little bits
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rather than having to worktowards something massive, or if
you get onto the plane or yougo home at the end of the day,
or December 31st comes and youhaven't done it and it's just
like lose X amount of pounds,then it seems like a failure.
But if you phrase it like this,then you can kind of take
actionable steps each day tojust feeling fulfilled.
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Number two and this is literallylike the philosophy in of
itself, so this is just apersonal thing, this doesn't
have to be for you, butliterally go further, draw
closer, and the way that Iphrase this is just venture off
the beaten path, beyond mycomfort zone and into the lesser
known, end up or wherever I endup, open my heart and mind to
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all the unexpected andinvaluable gifts I'm set to
receive and then return, giveall I have, drawing closer to
the places I go and the people Imeet and the person I'm slowly
becoming.
So again, I think I'm justreiterating what I've been
preaching for the last coupleminutes, but that's another goal
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that I kind of just want tolive out in everything I do.
And then, finally, the sense ofjust staying true to who I am
and keeping my inner peace.
My third goal is to live freeand true, Say yes, go all in,
take risks and exist in themiddle, soar above the clouds
and bring others along for theride, and all you do stay true
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to you, remain grounded inintegrity, love unconditionally,
dream fearlessly and be thelight.
So I think setting those goalsfor yourself and creating habits
that align with those goals canstart to become a pathway
towards this drawing closer idea.
John Hauber (32:16):
So we're going to zoom out real quick on universal
truths and implications.
So if everyone adopted thismindset, how would the world be
different?
Eli?
Eli Hauber (32:28):
I mean, that's kind of like saying what will the
world be like in 10 years withthe emergence of AI?
Like, no one truly knows.
I certainly don't know, but Iwouldn't be on a podcast or
creating some type of movementor brand surrounded around this
idea if I didn't think that itwould be something positive or a
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better world for all.
And so something that reallybuilt into the framework of this
idea is that it's in thesefurther places, wherever that
may be, where harmony can befound and forged between people,
between countries, betweennations, and if we're able to be
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curiosity-fueled,intention-guided and
boundary-defying, we can findourselves still in our own life,
in our own body, but feelingmore connected to a world that
has greater compassion and isfueled by love and kindness and
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generosity and gratitude, andtruly feels like this place of
harmony rather than violence anddivision and hate and evil.
And so that's kind of what Ibelieve is that if we're able to
live out this type ofphilosophy like truly implement
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it in so many different placesin our entire life which is way
easier said than done, like I'mnot far from perfect, everyone
is imperfect and it'schallenging in different places
of every single person's life,people have different traumas
and different experiences, but Ithink if we're able to push
ourselves to just implement thisa little bit each day, we're
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slowly going to begin to inspireothers to do the same, and
that's where kind of the rippleeffect, or this contagiousness
of this idea, can really spreadlike wildfire.
John Hauber (34:28):
This idea can really spread like wildfire.
It is amazing, Eli, what agreat philosophy.
You and I are both Christiansand it comes from you know the
first two commandments thatJesus said was most important.
Love God with your whole heart,your whole mind, your whole
soul, and love your neighbor asyourself.
And so thank you so much, Eli,for being on the show.
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How do listeners connect withyou?
And let's put a plug in foryour new movement and what
that's called and where's thatlocated and give us a preview of
that if it's not ready to bereleased, but if you're ready to
release, kind of where that is?
Eli Hauber (35:05):
Yeah, of course.
Thank you for the opportunityto get the word out.
I did the time that you'relistening to this.
I probably launched a coupleweeks ago.
It's fairly new, but you canfind me on Instagram, Facebook
and LinkedIn with just my name,Eli Hauber.
(35:26):
That's H-A-U-B-E-R, and thenyou can also find my work and on
my website it's fromheretohuman.
com Again fromheretohuman.
com, and so you can find thataccount again on Instagram and
(35:48):
Facebook.
Find that account again onInstagram and Facebook, and if
you're interested in thismessage, in what I'm saying and
what we're talking about heretoday, I encourage you to check
us out and to see or I guess,check me out.
I'm a one man crew right now,but as I kind of take this next
step over into the other side ofthe world, I want to give
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tangible things that people cansee and read and watch, that are
living examples of what I'mtalking about right now, what it
means to go further, and so myfirst big project under this
umbrella brand called precarioushuman, I'm doing a project
called rich, and it's an acronymfor revealing interconnection
(36:37):
to catalyze harmony, and so it'spretty much exactly what we've
been talking about today.
It'll be a lot of conversationswith strangers on the streets
and people that I meetthroughout my trip, to try to
identify those strings that tiehumanity together, so that we
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can now see what we had incommon with people we would
otherwise think were nothingalike to begin to come together
and unite for good and to builda world that has a foundation of
harmony.
So again, Project Rich,revealing Interconnection to
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Catalyze Harmony.
I'll be doing a lot of stuffwith that and a variety of
different content On my website.
I'll be keeping a blog, sotalking about my experiences and
what I'm finding in a littlebit more of a long form style,
rather than Instagram andFacebook, real short one minute
videos and then, if you'relistening to this and you're
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interested even more in what I'mdoing, on my website you'll
find a work with us tab and youcan fill in your information and
shoot me a message to see howwe might be able to collaborate
if you share the same belief orwant to work towards a common
goal.
So those are the things thatthose are the ways that you can
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connect with me.
John Hauber (38:05):
Eli, thank you for being on the show.
I love you and have safetravels in Europe and to go
change the world bud.
Eli Hauber (38:13):
Thanks, and I leave your viewers with with one quote
Just sign off, thank you.
Yeah, so this is kind of aquote that again inspired a lot
of this and this perspective andthis new brand that I'm
building, and it's from the bookthe Life of Walter Mitty and
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there was a movie made after it,and so it's really talking
about the purpose of life andfinding your purpose and what
that means.
And so this is the quote.
It is See the world, thingsdangerous to come to, the seed
behind walls.
Draw closer to find each otherand to feel that may feel
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dangerous to come to and lookbehind the boundaries of the
walls that are holding you backor dividing you from those
dangerous things and to drawcloser to that, to find what
exists on the other side and totruly feel it and to feel
connected to whatever it may be.
John Hauber (39:24):
So, thank you, Awesome bud, have a great day.
Listeners, reach out to my son,Eli.
He is an amazing soul and untilnext time.
In a world where we can feel so isolated, going
further, becoming closer withthe world and with the people
around us, and even withourselves, allows us to put into
perspective where we are in theworld and how we are really
just one people on a tiny rockfloating in space.
So when you think about it likethat, it really puts into
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perspective of, like, whatmatters and what do I want out
of the hundred years that I mayhave on this little rock, and
how do I want to be remembered.
And when we become closer withothers, we really start to
reflect on the impact that ourchoices and our decisions have
on those lives, and so peoplewho we would otherwise be
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divided with or disconnectedfrom become part of this fabric
of humanity that ties us alltogether because of the things
we have in common.
John Hauber (01:04):
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Kelsie Heermans (01:36):
Welcome back everyone.
Today's guest is Eli Hauber,born and raised in Colorado
Springs, Colorado.
Eli is a student, worldtraveler, storyteller and the
founder of From here to Human, aglobal movement amplifying the
hopeful, unifying and inspiringuntold stories of our world.
Eli is passionate about helpingothers bridge cultural divides
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through honest conversation,photography and immersive
experiences.
Currently a student at UNC,chapel Hill, studying business
and global studies, eli willspend his junior year abroad, in
France, using that time tolaunch Project Rich short for
Revealing Interconnection toCatalyze Harmony, a storytelling
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initiative grounded in thebelief that highlighting our
shared humanity can be theantidote to division.
Whether he's camping in theSahara, our shared humanity can
be the antidote to division.
Whether he's camping in theSahara, filming on the streets
of Istanbul or swapping storiesin Ugandan villages, eli lives
by the idea that to trulyunderstand others and ourselves,
we must leave behind what'sfamiliar and comfortable.
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His motto go further, drawcloser.
His motto Go Further, DrawCloser invites us to step into
unfamiliar places, overlookstories and uncomfortable
conversations to draw closer tothe world and each other.
John.
John Hauber (02:54):
Thanks, Kelsie.
Today we're unpacking a paradoxhow going further, not pulling
back, might be the most powerfulway to draw closer to others,
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to ourselves and to life itself.
Today, my guest is Eli, andyou've heard an overview of my
son, and so welcome to the show,Eli hey thanks, dad, thanks for
having me.
Eli Hauber (03:35):
No problem so let's get into it.
So, Eli, can you take us backto a moment or experience when
the phrase going further to drawcloser really is the
culmination of my lifeexperiences?
So to pick one particularexperience is a tough one, but
I'm drawn to this particularmoment during my summer last
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year, when I had the opportunityto travel to Uganda alone as an
intern for an organizationcalled All we Are that works to
bring renewable, sustainable andaffordable energy solutions to
schools and healthcare clinicsacross rural parts of the
country, and during my time offin air quotes, I decided to
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travel seven hours north toanother town that had previously
been very affected by civil warand conflict, and so I think
that's kind of the first pointthat I want to make is that my
assumptions and introduction tothis place was that it was
war-torn, dangerous, had ahistory of violence and
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destruction, and so I kind oftook that step to go further
than maybe my comfort zone wouldhave told me or what my family
members or people advising mewould have said, to go there or
not.
And I just decided to do it,and out of that experience I was
able to work at a school for aday and run this sort of
(05:11):
leadership mentorship workshopat a high school in Gulu is the
name of the town no-transcript.
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In some ways and other ways Icouldn't, but I think engaging
in that conversation or themultiple different conversations
at that place allowed me toexperience for the first time
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the becoming closer elementafter we go further, as we
became closer to that place, toits people, to its history, that
I wouldn't have otherwise beenable to do.
And it wasn't just me whoexemplified this philosophy or
this paradox at this particularevent, which was this Q&A
meeting, one of the students whohappened to be in the room his
name I won't disclose forprivacy reasons, but he was one
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of three students that came upto me after we were done talking
and the Q&A session andworkshop was over and he just
continued to ask more and morequestions.
He went further and he wanted toconnect and to become closer
with me and with who I was, whatI was doing, and I, in return,
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got to become closer to who hewas and what he wanted to do and
through that just stepping intothe unknown and stepping into
connection with me and viceversa, me with him we were able
to form this bond where we'vebeen able to stay in contact.
I've been able to support himin his own pursuits and dreams
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from a distance, and I willforever have a tie to that place
, to its people and really tothat memory, whether it
influences the things that I do,moving forward for me or for
him, I think is what makes allthe differences.
We now are brothers when weotherwise did would never have
made that connection that'sawesome.
John Hauber (07:37):
You know, I love that story.
Uh, you, you know, told it tome in the past, but, but it's a
beautiful story.
So how, growing closer toothers, how does that make you
feel?
Eli Hauber (07:51):
It makes me feel connected and part of something
bigger than myself.
In a world where we can feel soisolated and alone and almost
maybe fighting for ourselvesalone and almost maybe fighting
for ourselves, going further,becoming closer with the world
and with the people around us,and even with ourselves, allows
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us to put into perspective wherewe are in the world and how we
are really just one people on atiny rock floating in space, oh
yeah.
So when you think about it likethat, it really puts into
perspective of like what mattersand what do I want out of the
hundred years that I may have onthis little rock and how do I
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want to be remembered.
And when we become closer withothers, we really start to
reflect on the impact that ourchoices and our decisions have
on those lives.
And all of a sudden, a strangerwho would otherwise be
insignificant in our lives, whenwe choose to go further into
connection with that person,they become a brother, they
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become a sister, a grandma,grandpa, a mom or a dad that we
wouldn't have otherwise had, andthat person and their extended
family and all their connectionsall of a sudden have a
different significance in ourheart and in our mind, and so
people who we would otherwise bedivided with or disconnected
from, become part of this I liketo call like a fabric of
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humanity that ties us alltogether.
Because of the things we have incommon, like my relationship
with the gentleman or the youngman in Uganda.
Our upbringing, our situations,our lifestyles couldn't be more
different, Our skin colorcouldn't be more different, but
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it was this shared passion formaking the world a better place
and our shared Christianity thatbrought us together in that
moment, and, rather thanallowing myself to push away
from him because of he wouldn'tunderstand who I am or I
wouldn't understand who he is, Idecided to just step into that
(10:04):
unknown and into that discomfortand that awkward conversation
at first to see where it wouldgo, and it turns out that it
blossomed into something superbeautiful, and so, really, I
think it's that connection andsense of perspective of where we
are in the world, and whatreally matters is, I think, how
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that going further makes me feel.
John Hauber (10:27):
How is this mindset that you have, and you've had
it for quite a while how's itshaped the way you live and move
through the world in the pastand now?
Eli Hauber (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.
I think I want to kind of giveyou three points, that kind of
outline how that perspective Imean what that perspective
actually is.
What does it mean to go furtherand and draw closer?
And how do we kind of live, howdo I live that out in my life,
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and maybe how your viewers cando that for themselves.
And so these are kind of thethree points that I've
identified that break down thisphilosophy or maybe way of life.
I don't know how the best way todescribe it is, but the first
way I would describe it is it'scuriosity fueled, and so if
we're able to have curiosity, beour compass in life and seek
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not to find answers but widenour understanding and
perspective of the world,ourselves and others in it, to
go further means to step intothe unknown, like I've said,
with wonder.
So step into the unknown withwonder and lean into discomfort
with courage.
And so it's this.
It's kind of this just approachto walking through life with
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open eyes and an open heart andan open mind to what may be
uncomfortable or what we maybelieve to be wrong, but seeing
it through the eyes of somebodyelse.
And in that exchange and inthat perspective we can begin to
foster and find connection andhumility with people who we
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otherwise might not have beenable to do that if our mind was
closed and our heart was closedas well.
So that's point one.
Curiosity fueled Second isgoing to be intention guided.
In a world where it's alwayschanging, always moving,
headlines are short and often weconsume in 15, 10, 15 segments.
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Going further to become closeror to draw closer means to move
with care.
To go further is really to walkwith intention, to create,
connect and explore in ways thatuphold our own integrity, our
own values, what we believe andhold to be true, while still
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being able to honor the lives ofothers, so that we can leave
this earth knowing that we lefta positive, eternal imprint on
the lives and places, that wecan leave this earth knowing
that we left the positiveeternal imprint on the lives and
places that we touch.
And so in previousconversations and presentations
I've given across the country, Italk about this idea of every
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choice, every word, every actionthat we choose to make, say or
do leaves this eternal imprinton the places and people that we
touch or come into contact withthroughout our lives.
And if we can be curiosityfueled and intention guided in
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our life.
I can almost guarantee you thatyou will leave a positive
imprint that you, your lovedones and the people you look up
to will be proud of when youleave the world.
And that is, in a nutshell, howwe can make the world a better
place at a very individual scaleJust having the mindset of how
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can I leave a positive imprinton the lives in the landscapes
that I touch.
So intention guided number two.
And then finally, number threeboundary defying.
I think everyone knows thatboundaries shape our reality.
They define how we see, how wefeel, how we connect with the
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world.
To go further is to push pastour own boundaries and open
ourselves up to the world that'swaiting to be discovered on the
other side.
That can be something as simpleas a fence dividing you and
your neighbor.
That can be a boundary in yourlife that may prevent you from
connecting with your neighbor,but you can go around that fence
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and knock on their front doorand connect with them that way.
It may be a fear that you grewup with or something in your
childhood that's preventing youfrom connecting with a family
member or a parent or a teacheror someone in your life that may
have put up boundaries toprevent you from going further,
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and so defying boundaries isdefying expectations, defying
those borders that people haveput up to keep us apart, and if
we're able to go beyond that andtranscend those boundaries, we
can become closer by goingfurther.
So those are my three pointsCuriosity-fueled,
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intention-guided andboundary-defying is what it
means to go further.
John Hauber (15:36):
That's awesome, as you know, and we're going to get
a little vulnerable here.
I'm going to ask you a questionhere, and that is there's
always yin and yang in the world, right, there's evil and
there's good, and so how isgrowing your external reach
aimed at the expense of your owninner peace and closeness?
Eli Hauber (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, another good question.
I think I want to flip thequestion on itself and kind of
go back to what I said earlierabout how going further to draw
closer isn't just drawing'tbecome closer with the world and
with others.
You actually experience thatisolation and that loneliness
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that I said can happen if wechoose not to become closer with
the world and with others.
And so when you asked mepreviously about how does it
make me feel to become closer,to draw closer, I said it makes
me feel connected and it makesme, it gives me this perspective
of the world in which I live in, and that gratitude and
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perspective allows me to kind ofdiscover my own place in the
world and draw closer to myself.
And so I feel that actuallygoing through this exercise and
going out into the world whetherthat's your own neighborhood,
your state, your country, othercountries, another continent
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actually allows you to find yourown inner peace, because it
allows you to see how you'reconnected to so much more than
just what you've been able tosee in your world thus far.
You're connected to people whodon't speak the same language.
You're connected to people whopractice different religions,
who work in different yogs, whobelieve different things vote
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for different people, and soit's that knowing that there's
so much more, that's bigger thanourselves, that actually allows
us to have the humility andperspective of humanity that
makes us feel like we're notalone.
And so that's where I findpeace is that I can go anywhere
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in the world, and laughter canbe a language that every single
person can speak.
We all want to be loved andlove somebody else, and so it's
those things that keep ustogether, despite all of the
differences that are seeminglytearing us apart in the world
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right now.
So I don't know how well thatanswers your question, but I
actually think that goingthrough all this helps me
maintain my inner peace andhelps me find myself, rather
than me having to go and dosomething extra to maintain who
I am and my peace because I'mdoing all of this extra stuff.
John Hauber (18:32):
That's a great answer, eli, and one of the
areas I was getting to is movingyou toward more vulnerability
in regards to your story, andthat is that, as we get closer
to people, we, to feel aconnection to others, requires
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us to be vulnerable, and so whydo you think distance physically
, emotionally or otherwise cansometimes be what actually helps
us connect more deeply?
Eli Hauber (19:05):
I think it's the lack of distance that helps us
connect more deeply, notdistance itself.
So it's shrinking the gapbetween people, between places,
and actually experiencing it forourselves, rather than seeing
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it through the television orFacebook or Instagram or
LinkedIn with that place, withwhatever it is, at a deeper
level, and be able to form anopinion for ourselves based on
how we feel when we actuallydrop ourselves into that place
or with that person.
John Hauber (19:53):
Let's go to the area I want to go to.
Okay, so you were in Uganda andyou were there for a month
serving the individuals in someof the poorest villages and one
of the richest schools in Uganda.
And, in your experience, howdoes leaving the familiar help
us see others in ourselves moreclearly?
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So, for example, you went toUganda, you left the familiar,
yep, you went into theunfamiliar.
And then you even went moreinto the unfamiliar by having to
be with yourself and thinking,oh my God, what have I done?
Right, you remember thatinstance.
Eli Hauber (20:34):
Yeah, yeah, I traveled to Uganda by myself and
that experience of seeing,smelling, hearing, feeling the
things that I was for the firsttime, and I was traveling and
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spending nights in villages thathadn't seen a white man in 40,
50 years, and so that sense ofisolation where, going back to
this idea of an eternal imprint,you feel or I guess I felt such
a profound pressure on myshoulders to do say all of the
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right things because I wasessentially representing every
single person that ever lookedlike me, past, present or future
perhaps.
And so stepping into anenvironment like that, where I
was experiencing that thatfeeling and that overwhelming
pressure for the first time, andso I didn't necessarily know
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how to deal with it, and when Iwould go back to my
accommodations in the afternoon,I, with no Wi-Fi, no connection
, no internet, no anything, justme and my thoughts, laying in a
bed all alone, I think is theepitome in my life of going
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further, is I was about as faras I could get into discomfort
and into the unknown that Inearly, like nearly broke, and
that's not healthy by any means,and I would not encourage any
of the listeners to takeyourself to that point where you
literally don't know what to dobecause there's so much around
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you that you can't possiblybegin to understand or
comprehend, and all you want todo is help alleviate the
suffering of those people inthat place.
And so that's not the agendathat I'm trying to push is
getting you to that point.
And so that's not the agendathat I'm trying to push is
getting you to that point.
It's just the idea of takingthis super small, simple steps
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to just become closer with maybeeven the people in your own
house first, and then extend itto the community.
Volunteer once a week is evengoing further, to become closer
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with the people who even justlive in your own community.
And so, going back to myexperience, I think that time
hours, every single day, that Ihad to just sit and think, I
think it was the most chaoticform of meditation I could have
ever experienced, becausethere's this longing sense and
like nagging sense of justwanting to do something while
also feeling so incrediblyhelpless at the same time.
And so being in thatenvironment with that mindset
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and that state of mind forced meto lean on the support of
others rather than just goingthrough life counting on myself.
I had to again be vulnerableand say I need your help.
Can you help me with this?
I need directions here.
How do I get food?
Can you point me in the rightdirection?
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I couldn't do it all, and soleaning on others allowed me to
realize that we're not alone inthe world, and there are people
all around us who areexperiencing the exact same
thing, and sometimes all theyneed is someone to help them,
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and when someone helps them,they in turn want to help
someone else.
And that's where I feel, then,that kind of desire, and so it's
not a one-way street, like whenyou need help.
There will be people there tohelp you, because people were
there to help them.
But for people to be there tohelp them, you have to be that
person as well, and so it's amatter of giving everything you
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have to others and expectingnothing in return, and by doing
so, we all or you as the persongiving everything gets to enjoy
the success and the triumph andjoy of others for the rest of
your life, and if you're able tolive in that way and inspire
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others to do the same, the karmawill come back to you, because
you're not expecting it in waysthat you couldn't even imagine.
So I think that's how I drewcloser to myself was knowing
that I couldn't do everythingand I wasn't a superhero, and in
my life I need other people tohelp me get to where I want to
go.
John Hauber (25:28):
Yeah, thank you for being vulnerable.
I mean that was one time inyour life that you really you
were alone.
I mean you felt alone.
So that segues into what weface throughout the world, I
think, and more in America, andthat is we have an epidemic of
loneliness.
So what advice would you giveto someone who's afraid to take
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that step away from what'sfamiliar and sometimes just
being in your house alone allthe time is familiar, right?
Eli Hauber (25:59):
Right.
John Hauber (25:59):
Not getting out and volunteering or not.
What would you recommend?
Eli Hauber (26:06):
Yeah, I think I kind of previously mentioned like
you don't have to do huge,massive trips around the world
In order to become closer withthe world.
You can do something as simpleas something your community, you
could.
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I mean just just an idea thatpops into my head is like if you
have kids, instead of droppingthem off at practice and going
to run errands, stay at practice, watch practice, let your kids
see that you want to becomecloser to them and to what they
love and in turn you can drawcloser to them.
And so it doesn't have to besome like massive grand gesture
where you're going to the otherside of the world and given your
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time to do this Q&A sessionwith 70 kids.
It can be something as simpleas just taking your kid to ice
cream or saying yes toMcDonald's on the way home.
This small gesture of just notonly your own gratitude for them
in your life, but just to sitat a table where every single
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person is happy and have aconversation because everyone's
in a good mood, and just seeingwhere that goes and being
curious and having it be withintention obviously, like go
into it with an intention todraw closer to whoever you get
to share that meal with.
And then I think just by sayingyes to mcdonald's you're gonna
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make your kids think they'redefying boundaries.
John Hauber (27:36):
So yeah, that segues into great.
What are?
You know, what are the habits,practices, mindset shifts that
help you keep living out thisidea.
Eli Hauber (27:50):
Yeah, I think a lot of it is encapsulated in my
three goals for myself.
I know Kelsey mentioned thatI'm going to be going to France
and all over Europe next year,as probably next year maybe, and
probably by the time you'relistening to this it's going to
be I'll probably already be overthere.
I'll be leaving in a few days,but I'll be spending a year over
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in France studying, and so kindof going back to this intention
thing is like what are myintentions for that experience
and how do I want to make themost of that experience?
And so, in addition to thiswhole idea of being fueled by
curiosity and the things we'vealready talked about in relation
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to that, I kind of just want togive my own, like you said,
habits.
I think habits can form aroundthese goals, to not only like
achieve them by the end of myyear when I get back on that
plane home, but also everysingle night when I go to bed
and I can say that was a goodday because I achieved these
three goals or I made progresstowards these three goals.
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And so maybe for, if you'relistening, the first step
towards creating habits to livethis way of going further, to
draw closer is just settinggoals for yourself every day,
that kind of.
They don't have to mirror thisphilosophy, but I think that
they should be in somewhataligned with, again, being
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intention driven.
The goals should kind of alignwith this idea of wanting to
draw closer to the people inyour life and the places that
you go.
So here are my three goals forthis crazy adventure that I'm
about to go on.
Number one lean into learning.
This is regardless of thecapacity, the setting or the
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teacher.
Again, I want to allowcuriosity to take the wheel,
guiding me away from thefamiliar and towards a richer
understanding of the world andmy place in it.
And so this can be likelearning in the classroom, as I
actually will be studying whileI'm studying abroad, even though
it's only two days a week, butthis could be in the streets of
(30:00):
Paris, taking the extra step totry to translate a sign in my
head rather than just pullingout my phone using Google
Translate.
And so lean into that learningin everything we do and leaving
it open-ended, like having theseopen-ending goals, where it's
so broad, allows you to achievethese goals in little bits
(30:22):
rather than having to worktowards something massive, or if
you get onto the plane or yougo home at the end of the day,
or December 31st comes and youhaven't done it and it's just
like lose X amount of pounds,then it seems like a failure.
But if you phrase it like this,then you can kind of take
actionable steps each day tojust feeling fulfilled.
(30:44):
Number two and this is literallylike the philosophy in of
itself, so this is just apersonal thing, this doesn't
have to be for you, butliterally go further, draw
closer, and the way that Iphrase this is just venture off
the beaten path, beyond mycomfort zone and into the lesser
known, end up or wherever I endup, open my heart and mind to
(31:09):
all the unexpected andinvaluable gifts I'm set to
receive and then return, giveall I have, drawing closer to
the places I go and the people Imeet and the person I'm slowly
becoming.
So again, I think I'm justreiterating what I've been
preaching for the last coupleminutes, but that's another goal
(31:30):
that I kind of just want tolive out in everything I do.
And then, finally, the sense ofjust staying true to who I am
and keeping my inner peace.
My third goal is to live freeand true, Say yes, go all in,
take risks and exist in themiddle, soar above the clouds
and bring others along for theride, and all you do stay true
(31:53):
to you, remain grounded inintegrity, love unconditionally,
dream fearlessly and be thelight.
So I think setting those goalsfor yourself and creating habits
that align with those goals canstart to become a pathway
towards this drawing closer idea.
John Hauber (32:16):
So we're going to zoom out real quick on universal
truths and implications.
So if everyone adopted thismindset, how would the world be
different?
Eli?
Eli Hauber (32:28):
I mean, that's kind of like saying what will the
world be like in 10 years withthe emergence of AI?
Like, no one truly knows.
I certainly don't know, but Iwouldn't be on a podcast or
creating some type of movementor brand surrounded around this
idea if I didn't think that itwould be something positive or a
(32:49):
better world for all.
And so something that reallybuilt into the framework of this
idea is that it's in thesefurther places, wherever that
may be, where harmony can befound and forged between people,
between countries, betweennations, and if we're able to be
(33:10):
curiosity-fueled,intention-guided and
boundary-defying, we can findourselves still in our own life,
in our own body, but feelingmore connected to a world that
has greater compassion and isfueled by love and kindness and
(33:31):
generosity and gratitude, andtruly feels like this place of
harmony rather than violence anddivision and hate and evil.
And so that's kind of what Ibelieve is that if we're able to
live out this type ofphilosophy like truly implement
(33:51):
it in so many different placesin our entire life which is way
easier said than done, like I'mnot far from perfect, everyone
is imperfect and it'schallenging in different places
of every single person's life,people have different traumas
and different experiences, but Ithink if we're able to push
ourselves to just implement thisa little bit each day, we're
(34:15):
slowly going to begin to inspireothers to do the same, and
that's where kind of the rippleeffect, or this contagiousness
of this idea, can really spreadlike wildfire.
John Hauber (34:28):
This idea can really spread like wildfire.
It is amazing, Eli, what agreat philosophy.
You and I are both Christiansand it comes from you know the
first two commandments thatJesus said was most important.
Love God with your whole heart,your whole mind, your whole
soul, and love your neighbor asyourself.
And so thank you so much, Eli,for being on the show.
(34:49):
How do listeners connect withyou?
And let's put a plug in foryour new movement and what
that's called and where's thatlocated and give us a preview of
that if it's not ready to bereleased, but if you're ready to
release, kind of where that is?
Eli Hauber (35:05):
Yeah, of course.
Thank you for the opportunityto get the word out.
I did the time that you'relistening to this.
I probably launched a coupleweeks ago.
It's fairly new, but you canfind me on Instagram, Facebook
and LinkedIn with just my name,Eli Hauber.
(35:26):
That's H-A-U-B-E-R, and thenyou can also find my work and on
my website it's fromheretohuman.
com Again fromheretohuman.
com, and so you can find thataccount again on Instagram and
(35:48):
Facebook.
Find that account again onInstagram and Facebook, and if
you're interested in thismessage, in what I'm saying and
what we're talking about heretoday, I encourage you to check
us out and to see or I guess,check me out.
I'm a one man crew right now,but as I kind of take this next
step over into the other side ofthe world, I want to give
(36:13):
tangible things that people cansee and read and watch, that are
living examples of what I'mtalking about right now, what it
means to go further, and so myfirst big project under this
umbrella brand called precarioushuman, I'm doing a project
called rich, and it's an acronymfor revealing interconnection
(36:37):
to catalyze harmony, and so it'spretty much exactly what we've
been talking about today.
It'll be a lot of conversationswith strangers on the streets
and people that I meetthroughout my trip, to try to
identify those strings that tiehumanity together, so that we
(36:58):
can now see what we had incommon with people we would
otherwise think were nothingalike to begin to come together
and unite for good and to builda world that has a foundation of
harmony.
So again, Project Rich,revealing Interconnection to
(37:20):
Catalyze Harmony.
I'll be doing a lot of stuffwith that and a variety of
different content On my website.
I'll be keeping a blog, sotalking about my experiences and
what I'm finding in a littlebit more of a long form style,
rather than Instagram andFacebook, real short one minute
videos and then, if you'relistening to this and you're
(37:42):
interested even more in what I'mdoing, on my website you'll
find a work with us tab and youcan fill in your information and
shoot me a message to see howwe might be able to collaborate
if you share the same belief orwant to work towards a common
goal.
So those are the things thatthose are the ways that you can
(38:03):
connect with me.
John Hauber (38:05):
Eli, thank you for being on the show.
I love you and have safetravels in Europe and to go
change the world bud.
Eli Hauber (38:13):
Thanks, and I leave your viewers with with one quote
Just sign off, thank you.
Yeah, so this is kind of aquote that again inspired a lot
of this and this perspective andthis new brand that I'm
building, and it's from the bookthe Life of Walter Mitty and
(38:35):
there was a movie made after it,and so it's really talking
about the purpose of life andfinding your purpose and what
that means.
And so this is the quote.
It is See the world, thingsdangerous to come to, the seed
behind walls.
Draw closer to find each otherand to feel that may feel
(39:11):
dangerous to come to and lookbehind the boundaries of the
walls that are holding you backor dividing you from those
dangerous things and to drawcloser to that, to find what
exists on the other side and totruly feel it and to feel
connected to whatever it may be.
John Hauber (39:24):
So, thank you, Awesome bud, have a great day.
Listeners, reach out to my son,Eli.
He is an amazing soul and untilnext time.
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