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March 6, 2025 56 mins

In this episode, Morag Gamble engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Laura Oldanie about the contested intersection of permaculture and money. They explore the redefinition of wealth, the myths surrounding conventional financial systems, and the importance of community and social capital in creating a resilient and abundant life. Laura shares insights on how permaculture principles can guide financial decisions, the concept of 'enoughness', and innovative strategies for investing in regenerative assets.

Laura is the founder of Rich & Resilient Living. Since she received her Permaculture Design Certificate in 2009, she's been exploring ways to earn, spend, invest, and manage her money and lifestyle to bring about the change she wants to see in the world – and teaching others to do the same. Laura has been featured in Forbes, CNBC, and Good Housekeeping, and is co-author of the life changing book "Growing FREE (Financially Resilient & Economically Empowered): Building the Life of Your Dreams Without Losing Your Soul or Destroying the Planet." 

Explore more of Laura's work on her Instagram and Youtube, and read her book. She also offers a compilation of free resources & ideas on finding your way to homeownership in today's crises.

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This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠

Find more of Morag's conversations on the Our Permaculture Life YouTube and the Festival of Wild Ideas.

This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.

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