November 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Do you often feel disconnected from yourself? In this episode, I talk with Tara Jackson about reclaiming your power to feel more in tune with your inner gifts and:
• What it means to be embodied and what embodied power looks like in your life
• How to welcome in your personal power and stop giving it away to everyone else
• The role of creativity, nature, and quiet space in reclaiming your strengths
• Embracing your sensitivity as a strength
Tara is a creativity mentor, visionary guide, and the catalyst behind transformational journeys for leaders, entrepreneurs, and creatives ready to step fully into their power. She helps people reclaim their creative essence, turn bold ideas into reality, and write and publish books that amplify their message and expand their impact.
Keep in touch with Tara:
• Website: https://empathpreneurs.org
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamtarajackson
Resources Mentioned:
• Embodied Power by Tara Jackson: https://bookshop.org/a/63892/9781916529717
• Embodied Power Bonuses + Resources: https://empathpreneurs.org/embodied-power-book
• Embodied Wisdom Oracle Deck: https://empathpreneurs.org/product/embodied-wisdom
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Tara Jackson (00:20):
We are here because we feel so much.
We know what the world needs tobring it into balance, the
sensitivity, just to slow down,to live more cyclically, to
allow rest and honor thedifferent qualities of humans
and just so many things thatsensitivity can show you, can
bring you, can open you up to.
This is so much.
April Snow (00:46):
Welcome to Sensitive Stories, the podcast for the
people who live with hearts andeyes wide open.
I'm your host, psychotherapistand author April Snow.
I invite you to join me as Ideep dive into rich
conversations with fellow highlysensitive people that will
inspire you to live a morefulfilling life as an HSP
(01:08):
without all the overwhelm.
In this episode, I talk withTara Jackson about slowing down
to listen to what your body istelling you, finding your
personal power in the quietwithin, and why sensitivity and
softness is actually a gift indisguise.
Tara is a creativity mentor,visionary guide, and the
catalyst behind transformationaljourneys for leaders,
(01:30):
entrepreneurs, and creativesready to fully step into their
power.
She helps people reclaim theircreative essence, turn bold
ideas into reality, and writeand publish books that amplify
their message and expand theirimpact.
For more HSP resources and tosee behind the scenes video from
the podcast, join me onInstagram, TikTok, or YouTube at
(01:52):
Sensitive Strengths, or sign upfor my email list.
Links are in the show notes andat sensitivestories.com.
And just a reminder that thisepisode is for educational
purposes only and is notintended as a substitute for
treatment with a mental healthor medical professional.
Let's dive in the Tara.
(02:30):
I'm so happy to have you on thepodcast again.
Tara Jackson (02:34):
Thank you.
April Snow (02:35):
Thank you.
And so listeners might rememberyou were on the podcast before,
I believe it was episode 43.
We talked about sensitiveleadership, but now we're gonna
do a little pivot.
We're gonna be exploring thetheme of your new book, Embodied
Power, which is exciting.
Yes.
So I wonder for folks who maynot know what that word means,
embodied, could we just describewhat it is and maybe why it's
(02:58):
important?
Tara Jackson (02:59):
Yeah, I mean, it's as it sounds.
It's literally bringing thingsinto the body and like giving
the body a say in what we do,how we be, how we are, how we
show up, and then how that, youknow, comes into our lives,
different areas of our lives.
But it's you know, reallycoming back into the body
because we're taught from youknow the minute we can read and
write and do things that it'sall up here in the head.
(03:22):
And we, you know, we don'tacknowledge how we feel when
we're hungry, when we'rethirsty, when we're tired, just
our body's messages.
So it's just a real coming backinto the body and starting to
get to know it again and coming,showing up, leading from that
place ultimately, in how I seeit.
April Snow (03:41):
Yeah, it's so true that we disconnect from the body
so much just to keep pushingthrough to keep going,
especially as sensitive people.
We disconnect from kind of ourbiggest source of power,
creativity, information,intuition, which is emotion, and
we lose that, like our greateststrength.
(04:01):
And I love that you said givethe body a say.
And it can be so simple as eatwhen you're hungry, move when
you have that urge, right?
There's easy ways to beembodied in a more intentional
way.
So, what does embodied powerlook like?
So, getting into the theme ofyour book, what does that look
like for us in our lives?
Tara Jackson (04:23):
Well, like you were just touching on right now,
it is, you know, thatreconnection with the body,
getting to know its messages,its signals, when it's a no,
when it's a yes, when it'stired, when it's hungry, you
know, if it's thirsty.
And again, we just we're sounfamiliar with these things
that are so simple, yet to keepus alive and you know, here to
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help us thrive ultimately.
But when we get to know it andyou know, start to honor it,
listen to it, and give it whatit needs, and acknowledge it's
can be hard in our currentsociety and way of living and
being, and you know, all thethings, but doing what we can to
come back to that and yeah,ultimately let it let it speak,
(05:05):
let it have its say, likechoosing our body's needs first,
and you know, letting go of theconditioning and people's
expectations, people pleasing,all the things that we're taught
to how we hang how we should beliving and doing and being, and
yeah, coming back to ourselvesultimately.
And you know, you touched onintuition, for example,
creativity, those things.
(05:25):
So, I mean, it's layered andthere's a lot of different ways
one can get into embodied power,but uh on a simple level, it is
that I think coming back ingetting to know your body and
becoming aware of its messagesfor you.
April Snow (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like just getting to know
yourself or reconnect withyourself.
And I almost see it as kind ofthese layers, like starting with
hunger, thirst, movement, andthen going deeper down.
Would that be true intointuition or creativity?
Tara Jackson (05:56):
I feel that definitely, yeah.
And it often is start with thebasics, and you could even look
at it like the lens of thechakras as well.
And so back to basics at theroot, your survival and what you
need to live, to eat, tobreathe, to feed yourself, those
sorts of things.
And then you can move into thenext one, which is sort of
creativity and passion anddesires.
What are they?
Those sorts of things.
(06:16):
And then it isn't quite like inorder, but yeah, if you look at
those different chakras in thebody, if you're familiar with
them, you get to understandthose needs and desires for each
of them.
And I guess that can also helpopen up awareness of yeah, what
you might need and what thebody's asking for ultimately.
April Snow (06:33):
Yes, exactly.
And I wonder how do we startthat process?
So, how do we start listening?
So, I'm just thinking about ifI'm not doing that already, and
I have been through this processin my life, but it's been many
years since I started thisshift.
And I do remember at a timewhere I wasn't aware of those
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bodily impulses or sensations,not really recognizing when I
was hungry or getting sick ornot understanding my emotions.
And it was a little bit of amessy crash back in.
But just thinking about whatare the first steps if you could
share an example, if there's anexample you could think of of
(07:14):
if I'm listening, what'ssomething I could do today to
start hearing myself or turn myattention back inward?
Tara Jackson (07:23):
That is such a good question.
Because yeah, there isn't onestraight thing, and like you, it
was a messy journey back intothat.
And then sort of just happenedin a way, but obviously did take
time.
Yes.
I think it's as simple as evenwhen you're faced with a choice,
you know, you think you'rehungry, or you know, it's just
taking that time, that moment, afew minutes.
Okay, I'm hungry or I'm thirstyor I'm angry or something's
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going on, and just stopping.
Yeah, right.
What am I and just taking aminute, maybe just to breathe
and feel well, what's reallygoing on here?
Am I, you know, if you'rehungry, am I really hungry?
And just let yourself see.
Maybe you are, and you mightnot be able to tell.
That's okay.
Maybe, maybe you're thirsty.
Maybe you are actually angry,and there's deeper levels, and
(08:07):
you know, you could journal oryou could just take a minute and
feel into what's actually goingon underneath here.
And we don't do that, we're nottaught to do that.
But it's these little momentsof awareness that then add up to
this sort of like, oh, I knowmyself, but it does stop with
that myth that you have to stopsomewhere.
You can't just continue,continue, continue.
(08:27):
You have to stop and get toknow yourself.
Yeah.
What would you do with that?
April Snow (08:31):
Yeah.
No, I love that because when yousaid, Am I really hungry?
And there could be a backingup, just could be a broader
question of what's really goingon here.
Because if I am reaching forsomething to eat, am I hungry or
am I frustrated aboutsomething?
Am I trying to self-soothe insome way?
So yeah, just having thatpause, which is something I
(08:52):
often encourage my clients todo.
Let me just check this impulseout for a moment.
And you might not get theanswer at first, but just having
the practice of pausing, beingcurious, asking yourself those
questions, what's going on?
Am I really hungry?
Am I angry?
Am I tired?
Have I had a long day?
Just being having someexploration around that, I think
(09:13):
is a perfect place to start.
It's where I would I wouldstart too.
Because we don't know unless wetake a look.
Tara Jackson (09:20):
Exactly.
And even just expressing howyou're feeling can actually be
very powerful because let's sayyou're feeling all over the
place and it's like I'm angry orI'm hungry.
And even saying it, you realizeactually, no, maybe I'm not
really, or I don't know.
There's something about thepower of even speaking it that
enables you to discern what'sreally going on as well.
Like just to even give yourselfthat space to actually connect
(09:41):
with what you're feeling andvoice it, or you know, think it
can be very powerful in helpingto build awareness within.
I think.
Absolutely.
April Snow (09:49):
Because it's, I think as soon as you say it out
loud, you can tell if it soundstrue or not.
Exactly.
Tara Jackson (09:55):
Right.
I mean it's like intuition, youknow, some people will feel it,
some people will need to speakit, some people might want to
journal it, or different as weget to know ourselves.
I think even the differentsenses might play up more for
different people as we'regetting to know ourselves.
And so it's also maybeexperimenting a bit to see what
way works for you to bring moreawareness to yourself and your
body.
April Snow (10:15):
Yeah.
That's such a good point thatfind the mode of expression that
you're more likely to be ableto tap into, whether it be
verbal or written or movement orany other way that you express
yourself, those are allvaluable.
Tara Jackson (10:31):
Exactly.
And you know, that's also likehaving space held.
So a lot of my work is aboutholding workshops with just a
question and then space to allowpeople to feel into an answer.
And often it can be varyingquestions, but having that
space, you know, so if you cando a workshop or have some
prompts even just to allowyourself to start to get to know
what might be going on.
(10:51):
Space is very, very likepowerful for getting to know
your body, yourself, your powerwithin space.
Space always is good, which isyou know very important for
highly sensitive people, ofcourse.
April Snow (11:04):
It is, it absolutely is.
And I think as humans we needspace, but as highly sensitive
people, we need even more spacebecause we're taking so much in,
and there's so much noise andpressure to be doing and moving
so quickly these days that spaceis so precious, it's so rare.
And all those moments of spacethat we used to have built in
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have been taken away becausewe're on a screen or there's you
know input coming in some way.
So, yeah, reclaiming spacecould be really powerful part of
the process.
Tara Jackson (11:39):
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I agree with thatcompletely.
April Snow (11:42):
Yeah, and it's such a good reminder that it doesn't
have to be complicated, it canbe simple.
Tara Jackson (11:47):
Yeah.
I think it is simple.
That's the thing weovercomplicate it so much.
April Snow (11:52):
It's true.
Tara Jackson (11:52):
I mean, and also that we don't need to go into
this, but like the even thewellness industry complicates it
by adding on things saying youneed stuff to help you come
back, but you don't really, youdon't really starts within and
then it can build out, you know.
April Snow (12:06):
But it's so true, you know.
Just taking five minutes to sitquietly by your window could do
more than I don't know, buyingproducts or whatever it is.
Yeah, some nature.
Tara Jackson (12:20):
I mean, we haven't even said nature, like getting
back into nature is the numberone way just to calm your
nervous system, your body, yourbeing, ground, and help you
start to connect with yourselfagain, even without an
intention.
Like you could just be innature for five minutes a day,
every day.
And I guarantee you, at the endof if you did it for a couple
of weeks or something, you'dfeel different, you'd know
yourself better than you did atthe beginning.
(12:41):
You just would.
You would your body knows whatit's doing.
It's like homeostasis, it comesback to itself slowly, you
know, even in a tiny, tiny way,I believe, anyway.
April Snow (12:50):
I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
Because I think we believe wehave to like consciously go
through everything to move itthrough or heal it, but you can
do so much somatically innature, by osmosis, where your
body, yeah, it's trained ortrained, sounds like a weird
word, but it's inclined to healitself.
Exactly, exactly.
Tara Jackson (13:11):
Yes, and yeah, and movement, like you said as
well, is a big one to any kindof movement, just helps agree
out here and come back into thebody.
April Snow (13:20):
Yes, exactly.
And it works all those stresshormones through and just helps
release them.
Same with being in nature,right?
I don't know all the sciencebehind it, but I know just being
in nature, you start to absorbelements, and it's naturally
calming.
Exactly.
Exactly, yeah.
Tara Jackson (13:37):
So there's many ways to get back to it.
April Snow (13:39):
So many ways, yeah.
So as we're creating some spacefor ourselves, we're maybe
slowing things down, gettinginto nature, or just giving
ourselves some space forexpression.
But how do we make sure thatwe're not giving things away to
others?
Because a lot of times as westart to reclaim our personal
power, we welcome it in, wewelcome in some of that healing.
(14:02):
We may be inclined as HSPs towant to just give it away.
So, how can we kind of writethat balance and stay rooted in
our personal power?
Tara Jackson (14:11):
Yeah, and then again, it's a bit of a journey
and everyone's different, ofcourse.
April Snow (14:15):
For sure.
Tara Jackson (14:16):
So I think at the beginning, when that happens,
it's definitely aboutboundaries.
Because it's almost like youkind of reclaimed part of
yourself who you are, you'regetting to know it.
It's a bit like an earlyblossoming relationship or a
spring, but you know, a littlebud when it's still tender,
delicate.
So I think there's somethingabout protecting it a little
bit, having boundaries aroundyour energy, your power,
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whatever you really want to callit.
Just this understanding thatright now you might be a bit
more tender and vulnerable, andyou need to look out for you.
And of course, you still do itlater, but even more so in the
beginning, I think, because itis so easy, just probably
because of patterns,conditioning, habits.
You I've got more, I can givemore kind of thing, or whatever
it might be.
(14:56):
And so I think realizing youalmost have to let your nervous
system get used to it as well,like as you increase your
capacity or whatever else youknow is going on underneath and
within the layers.
And yeah, it does take sometime of just kind of holding
that, letting it beuncomfortable.
Maybe it's like, oh, I havemore energy, I've got more
space, I've got more time.
(15:17):
This is weird.
And you almost feel like, yeah,you have to give it away, but
you have to almost get used tothat, I think, in the beginning,
whatever that looks like foryou, those boundaries and that
kind of protection, you know, ofyour energy, your space, etc.
And then once you get to knowthat, it's kind of discernment,
I think.
You know, what is aligned forme?
Like, so then you start to askthis yes, no, or you play a bit
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with it, you get to know it likewith anything.
And you know, if I do this,support this, how am I gonna
feel afterwards?
Is it gonna drain me for thenext two days, six days?
You almost you get to knowyourself again, and you'll keep
getting to know yourself as youevolve with this.
And so, yeah, I think that'ssome of the ways just to start
to get to you know what youcould do to not give it away
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determinement, and then it's ajourney from there, and just
getting to know how your energyfeels when you've done certain
things, that sort of thing.
April Snow (16:07):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a good reminder thatwe can check in with ourselves
after how am I feeling?
What do I need?
But also we can do thatpreemptively before we make a
decision, before we decide tosupport someone else or show up
for someone else.
You know, how am I doing?
What do I need?
Do I have enough bandwidth tomove forward?
(16:30):
And I appreciate you using themetaphor of like the little bud
because that's exactly how itfeels at the beginning.
Like a little bit vulnerable, alittle precious.
We don't have quite thosestrong roots yet.
So we have to be really gentlewith ourselves, and it's okay to
protect yourself.
You know, I just was thinking,like, oh, protect your power.
I was just saying that tomyself in my mind as you were
talking.
(16:50):
Like, that's okay to do.
We don't have to give it allaway.
Tara Jackson (16:55):
No, absolutely.
And just going back to what yousaid about yeah, the roots, I
think it is growing those roots,and they do have to grow deeper
for you to be able to flourishmore and give, you know, grow
your branches.
And and that can take differentforms.
Something I just that came intomy mind was I like to do sort
of challenges with myself andhave done for years now.
And they often actually revolvearound the things like the
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basic nourishment, nutrition,kind of things like that.
So I play a lot with fastingand cleansing just because it's
something that I enjoy and Ilive in the tropics, it's also
quite conducive to it.
Yes, and a lot easierdefinitely than winters in the
far northern hemisphere.
But so I'd often do things likejust eating really healthy live
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foods for you know two weeks orsomething just to really
experiment, cutting out allprocessed foods, caffeine.
You know, I'd stopped drinkingalcohol, which was came through
experimenting, not drinkingalcohol for a month, and just
realizing how I changed, and weknow it doesn't help us, but it
took me a number of challengesor times you know, experimenting
with certain things to sort ofget to know myself and deepen my
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roots so that I can you knowget to know myself even better,
show up even more for myself inmy power and do more things, be
more, etc., that I want that I'mchoosing for my life.
So there's something around,yeah, you get to play with it a
little bit.
I seem to say, not everyoneelse will, but it's like what
supports you, or it could bejournaling every day.
I didn't morning pages for sixmonths or for a month or even a
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week, and just noticing how youfeel, what nourishes you, what
sustains you, what builds you.
And as you do this, I knowyou're also aware of these
things, it just builds yourtoolbox of what kind of feeds
you and what nourishes you sothat you get to you know bring
more of that and you into theworld as you want to, I guess.
April Snow (18:35):
Yeah, exactly.
I love that idea of carving outthese intentional spaces.
I've also been a person who'sdone, I used to work in natural
foods before I became atherapist.
So tried all the things.
Tara Jackson (18:46):
Yes, yeah, love it.
April Snow (18:48):
And it is kind of my version of fun, like you know,
my version of fun is likegetting together with friends
and meditating or you know,doing things like that, right?
Doing readings, just a bunch ofHSPs connecting on a spiritual
level.
Exactly.
But having those times whereit's all about self-exploration
and trying things on.
And because you're saying, youknow, like you said, with
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alcohol, you didn't really knowthe impact, maybe, or that you
didn't want to incorporate ituntil you took a break.
And you're like, oh yeah.
And the same has happened to mewith certain foods or you know,
things that I've done in mylife where it's like, oh, I
actually feel a lot better ormore connected to myself.
And I didn't realize how I wasfeeling before.
Tara Jackson (19:29):
Exactly.
And that's what I'm onto now.
I mean, alcohol's been a numberof years to me now, but there's
now foods, and it's justrealizing certain foods give me
brain fog and don't work for meanymore.
And it's sad, but I'm having toI'm playing with that now
because I want to feel energizedand well, and you can feel so
good.
And you don't realize you knowhow bad you are feeling until
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you cut these things out orexperiment with it and see how
good you can feel, and that'slike, wow, why wouldn't I want
that?
April Snow (19:56):
Exactly.
And what it sounds like an kindof a way to step into your
personal power of I'm nourishingmy body, I'm doing things that
are aligned for me, and I'mgonna feel even better, which
sounds amazing.
Tara Jackson (20:10):
Absolutely, but just to acknowledge also, you
know, this has taken this hasbeen a journey.
I didn't start here at all by,you know, it would have been
impossible for me like 10 yearsago, 15 years ago, to cut out
the things I did today becauseoften there's layers of healing
and trauma in those things thathave happened and been held and
released and you know, etc.
throughout the years.
So I just want to say that itmight be like, okay, it's like
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easy for you to do this now, butat the beginning of my journey,
it really wasn't, because ityou just start with the little
things as we kind of talkedabout in the beginning.
Yeah, yeah.
April Snow (20:40):
And I appreciate that because if someone is at
the I'm just thinking aboutmyself 20, 25 years ago at the
very beginning, yeah, there's noway I was doing things than
doing now then.
It was a very incremental shiftover decades.
Yeah.
And I think it'll continue foreven more decades because my
philosophy is we're alwayshealing, we're always growing.
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That's a lifelong pursuit.
So I don't put the pressure onmyself to do it all right now.
It and also as HSPs, we want todeep dive, we want to do all
the things.
So just yeah, a reminder justto pace yourself.
Tara Jackson (21:15):
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, and as you say that makesme think this is it, it's the
slowing down, it's the longgame, I suppose.
You know, this quick fix,instant gratification life, and
I've wanted it, sure.
I still can find myself wantingit, but it's that the slow
savoring, the little things thatare so powerful for us as HSPs,
especially but for the worldand power in the world, in my
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opinion.
But just yeah, many things thatexactly.
April Snow (21:41):
Yeah, I mean, we keep coming back to it, but
there's so much value in slowingdown, getting quiet with
yourself.
Tara Jackson (21:48):
Yeah, yeah, the whole world needs that.
April Snow (21:51):
Oh, we need it so bad.
We really do, and it's a goodreminder that you know what HSPs
need, everybody could benefitfrom.
Tara Jackson (21:58):
We just tend to feel it more when we're so cute,
we cut you feel it, we get whatwe need in my exactly.
April Snow (22:05):
It's true, like we're the like lightning rods,
or however you want to say it.
Tara Jackson (22:09):
We can tell you because we feel it so much more
on so many levels, good and bad,you know.
April Snow (22:13):
Exactly.
And another reason to kind ofown your power or your position
as an HSP, I think we often putourselves to the side of like,
oh, we're the weaker group insociety, and it's not true.
We have everybody has an equalplace, but we do have a very
specific role of bringing thingsto light.
Tara Jackson (22:33):
And yeah, and within that, there's something
even came up in conversationwith someone earlier today who's
an HSP empath colleague, andit's just really advocating for
ourselves.
And you're doing this throughyour platform, which is so
incredible.
But even as an individual, likebecause we're so used to being,
oh, I'm so sensitive, or I'm sosorry, I'm being fussy, or I'm
being too much, or you know, andI still hear myself saying
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these things or thinking them ifI haven't said them, but we
have to advocate.
No, I am sensitive.
I need this, this, and this, orI'm just not gonna have that
because too much.
And we don't advocate forourselves enough.
So this is a whole goes a bitfast.
I know, but it's definitelythere.
April Snow (23:11):
I do see this in the realm of power, at least in the
way that I'm thinking of it.
And you may have a differentperception of it given that
you're the book, but it is aboutI think using our voice and
believing that we have value andstepping into that role that we
have, as I just mentioned.
I think there is a lot of powerin that and saying, you know,
I'm okay just as I am, and I'mgonna do what I need to do to
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take care of myself so I can bethe best version of who I am
instead of feeling like I needto kind of hide away and just
get through life and be off tothe side.
Tara Jackson (23:42):
No, I'm with you.
That's what the book is about.
It's being more you, lettingyourself be you completely.
Yeah.
And taking up that space orwhatever that means to you or
looks like life, yeah.
April Snow (23:52):
Which is very exciting to me because you know,
being kind of really immersedin the HSP community and
watching how conversations go indifferent circles online or in
person.
And a lot of HSPs do.
I I feel I feel sad because alot of HSPs do kind of set their
power aside or don't recognizeit or don't have access to it,
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or feel like they have to livelike everyone else does, and
then they get stripped of that,and there's too much noise to
see.
Oh, here's what I really need,here's who I really am, here's
what I can offer myself andeveryone else.
So yeah, I always appreciatehaving these conversations just
to remind folks that sensitivityisn't what we've potentially
made it out to be.
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It's actually there's a lot ofvalue there.
That is your power.
It is sensitivity is yourpower.
Tara Jackson (24:37):
Thank you.
April Snow (24:38):
Yes, exactly.
Tara Jackson (24:39):
100% your power, I feel.
April Snow (24:41):
Right, yeah.
Tara Jackson (24:42):
And it can be powerful.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Oh, yes, and I think when weown who we are and what it means
to be sensitive.
Oh my goodness.
April Snow (24:52):
Yes.
Tara Jackson (24:52):
Oh, that feels exciting.
Doesn't it feel exciting?
Yeah, yeah.
April Snow (24:57):
And so I wonder if we could start then talking
about just how sensitivity orsoftness or things that are
often I think perceived as moreweak can actually be a form of
strength and a form of personalpower.
Yeah.
Tara Jackson (25:11):
Why do you think that is?
I mean, it takes courage to beset soft, it takes so much
courage in this world to allowyourself to soften, to be
vulnerable, to open your heart.
I mean, I see it really in thispart of your body.
And when you allow yourself tobe soft, you create connection,
you really hear someone, seesomeone, or you're more open to
that.
You're and you're more open toyour gifts and your intuition
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and your you know creativity andwho you truly are.
And that's so courageous to bethat in the world.
Sorry, yeah, I forgot what yourquestion was because I know
it's okay, we're just kind ofgoing through it.
April Snow (25:46):
But you're so right that you know, being more soft
is vulnerable, but but it doestake a lot of, I think I was
always reminding my clients ofthis that to feel this deeply
while living your life, doingeverything that everyone else is
doing, it takes a lot ofresilience, it takes a lot of
power, it takes a lot ofstrength.
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Especially it's not justfeeling, but it's sensing, it's
intuiting.
Because if just trying to putthis into words, this feeling.
Because if you're walkingthrough the world as an HSP, you
have all these uh 10 out andpicking up on all these little
sensations and clues and piecesof information, and which then
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is sparking emotion in you, andyou're picking up on other
people's emotions, it's a verybusy inner world that's
happening, yeah.
And to feel and be with all ofthat at such a deep level, it
does take a lot of strength todo that.
You know, we're really feelingit, opening ourselves up to
everything that's happening inthe world.
And let's be honest, right nowit's a lot.
And I I guess it surprises mehow much we think that we aren't
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powerful to do all that.
Tara Jackson (26:55):
I think I mean, I'll speak for myself, but and a
lot of people I've worked withas well, but we shut it down a
lot of that, you know, when theworld is overwhelming and too
much.
I mean, whilst I was sort ofon, I guess, my healing journey
for lack of a better way ofdescribing it, I wish, you know,
I had shut down a lot of mysenses massively.
So I didn't have to feel somuch, so I didn't have to
receive so much and deal with somuch.
(27:17):
And but it's through, you know,becoming back into, and I think
health is a huge part of it,feeling good in yourself and
nourishing and you know, lookingafter yourself on a physical
level that yeah, you're able toopen up so much more to yeah,
the senses that you talkedabout, the antenna, and to
receive all that.
And then you start, you doremember, you know, what a gift
and how powerful it really is.
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And then it's like, okay, nowwe can return on, we can go like
this, you know, it's creative,it's magical, it's intuitive,
it's so powerful on so manylevels that we know, but the
world hasn't even reallyexperienced yet.
I don't think we you know, wecould go so much further with
our sensitive powers, I think,in the world.
Yeah.
April Snow (27:57):
Oh, absolutely we could.
Tara Jackson (28:00):
I think it's time.
It's time.
That's why we're here.
That's why we're here.
I believe we are here becausewe feel so much, we know what
the world needs to bring it intobalance to balance this crazy
world that we live in right now,which we don't know to go into.
But oh my goodness, thesensitivity just to slow down,
to live more cyclically, toallow rest and honor, you know,
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the different qualities ofhumans, not just forcing,
pushing the more masculinequalities, etc., that have been,
you know, put in front of humanones, for example, and just so
many things that sensitivity canshow you, can bring you, can
open you up to.
And yeah, that's just so much.
April Snow (28:39):
Yes, I love it.
I can feel it.
Like that's why we're here,right?
That's why we exist assensitive people, is we do have
all these gifts that want andneed to come to the surface.
And if we allow ourselves thatspace to reconnect inward, to be
in our bodies, and I know, likeyou said, we tend to want to
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cut off because it is a lot tofeel it.
However, I found that itbecomes a lot more tolerable,
easy, exciting when I am doingmy somatic practices, when I am
getting into nature, when I amnourishing my body, kind of
taking out all the gunk and thenoise and focusing on nourishing
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and whatever way that is.
And it's a lot easier to bepresent within.
Now, again, it's a journey.
Tara Jackson (29:26):
It's a journey, definitely.
April Snow (29:28):
But that does really shift the tides.
Tara Jackson (29:32):
It really, really does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, what the space youare for being a part of a
community and recognizing you'renot alone is so important,
especially in the beginning.
I mean, all of the time, butespecially in the early days
when you're starting to realizewhy you're different for a lot
of people as well, and whythings take longer or affect you
more, or you know, etc.
I mean, even now, like why am Iso sensitive to certain foods
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and my partner isn't?
It's frustrating sometimes, butit's that's my gift too, you
know.
And yeah, yeah.
Actually, there's a littlestory of a friend of mine who's
also very sensitive.
Like, I mean, I'm the same, butif someone in the house uses,
you know, chemicals and thecleaning products, you she's
it's awful.
I mean, I can't breathe, itwill block me up for days.
And it's like, we can tell thatthis is not good for you, but
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other people don't mind.
And it's you see, this is youknow why we are needed because
it's not good for you.
We know it's not.
And we can tell that.
W just we are.
Whereas other people wouldn'tnotice till it's too late or you
know, calming them in some way.
There you go.
That's a tiny little randomexample, but I think that we are
heated.
And yeah, that's why we'rehere.
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Our sensitivities can tell.
April Snow (30:38):
I get excited when you bring up that example
because that is one of mybiggest.
I don't know if pet peeve isthe right word, but something
that really bothers me in lifeis everyone is using all these
chemicals these days, likefragrances and things that what
will not leave your clothes nomatter how hard you try.
And I'm like, that there'sthat's a problem.
(30:59):
That cannot be good for you.
Tara Jackson (31:02):
Yeah.
It's not.
I mean, some of these like theydisrupt your hormones, your
endocrine system, and some ofthe chemicals in them, right?
That's as much as I know.
I but I do know that there'sother things that they do.
But one of my biggest petpeeves, I mean, it's
debilitating.
So I like I literally won't goout to certain places if I know
that there's going to be lots ofpeople wearing perfumes and
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things because it's way toomuch, and it will, it's
nauseating.
I get headaches and multiplethings, and it skees on you, and
I can taste it.
Same.
Oh my gosh, it's awful.
April Snow (31:36):
Same.
I have the I think we're havingthe same reaction because I'll
get headaches and I getcongestion or allergies.
And even like walking.
So my wife and I will do anevening walk, and sometimes you
walk by a house that you cansmell the laundry from the
sidewalk.
Tara Jackson (31:49):
Oh my gosh.
April Snow (31:50):
Yeah.
And then you're right, you cantaste it.
Tara Jackson (31:53):
You can taste it.
For me, it's like go to aforest to get fresh air to walk
to like to you know nourishmyself.
And you get people with walkingwith nasty cologne.
And I have to change directionsand find another room because I
can taste you for the next twometers or something.
It's just it's true.
April Snow (32:09):
It's true.
And I think a lot of well,there I think probably there's
two layers.
One, other people's sensesaren't as fine-tuned as ours.
And then a two, you kind of getnose blindness where you don't
smell it anymore.
Tara Jackson (32:22):
Yeah, 100%.
April Snow (32:24):
So then for an HSP who's a little more sensory
sensitive, it's completely overoverwhelming.
And yeah, we do have thosephysical reactions, which is an
indicator like something is notokay here.
Tara Jackson (32:37):
Exactly.
April Snow (32:38):
And we are the canaries in the coal mine,
right?
We're the ones that sense thatsomething is a little bit off
before everyone else can.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's just, you know, thisis just one example of so many.
So many.
Tara Jackson (32:55):
Exactly.
April Snow (32:55):
And there's a reason why, just to get a little
technical, there's a reason why,you know, evolutionary
speaking, that sensitivity haspersisted throughout thousands
of years.
Right?
Tara Jackson (33:09):
In our human, not just humans, but in animals and
insects and exactly children,for goodness sake, are like
exactly numb later on.
April Snow (33:20):
Exactly.
Tara Jackson (33:22):
You know, them are so sensitive.
April Snow (33:24):
For sure.
And there's a reason for that.
Yeah, you know, usually if afamily has multiple children,
you get different temperaments,and that sensitive one is
important.
So it was the non-sensitive,maybe more extroverted one too.
You need someone that's gonnajust jump right in.
You need someone who's gonnahang back and notice the little
details, like I thinksomething's off here.
Maybe we all would be better ifwe didn't eat that food or use
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that chemical or whatever it is.
Tara Jackson (33:46):
Yeah, there's also to bring balance, right?
We need all of it, but it's gotso out of balance with one way
and the more extroverted, pushy,you know, forward ones, and we
need that sensitive, intuitive,creative, softer, gentler
approach to come back in tosupport everyone.
Because we care about, I thinkpersonally, I believe we care
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about the whole more as well.
We see that more.
We you know, we feel the thingsmore than than many.
April Snow (34:13):
We really do, exactly.
So yeah, hopefully listenerswill kind of I hope they'll be
inspired, and this can remindyou that there is power in
softness and sensitivity andquiet, there's a deeper meaning
for it.
Tara Jackson (34:27):
And there's more meaning.
I know there are there's somany gold.
Yeah.
April Snow (34:33):
Yeah, we're only scratching the surface here.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, yes.
I'm wondering as we start towrap up, if there is maybe some
final thoughts for folks who arelistening who are wanting to
maybe reconnect with themselves,reconnect with their personal
power.
Are there any final thoughtsthat you want to leave folks
(34:54):
with?
Tara Jackson (34:55):
I just I think it's that just a reminder that
yeah, your sensitivity is yourstrength, your power.
Because it is so easy todismiss it and forget that.
So and just push it aside orthink you need to change or be
different or something else tolive in the world we live in.
But if you remember it's yourpower for a reason, even if you
don't know why in that moment,you know, when it life gets
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tough sometimes and you you feelso sensitive, just remember
it's your power.
And I think that's it.
Just that remembering andknowing can help move you
forward and just remember youare needed because you're you,
like you have gifts because ofyour sensitivity.
So that's okay, because it isyour power.
April Snow (35:35):
I love that.
Thank you, Tara.
And what a beautiful reminderthat you are needed because of
who you are, right?
Your unique version ofsensitivity is just right.
Yeah, absolutely.
So hopefully we can take careof ourselves to be able to
nurture that sensitivity andreconnect with the strengths of
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it.
Tara Jackson (35:58):
Yes, and oh my goodness, oh that gift and just
that journey and exploration isso much fun when you let
yourself go into that and get toknow yourself.
Because you know, said we liketo deep dive and you get to deep
dive even to yourself.
And I just find it so soincredible.
It's quite quite fun.
April Snow (36:13):
Oh, it is incredible, it really is.
There's so much inside to it.
Tara Jackson (36:19):
So much magic, so much, so many different levels
and layers.
April Snow (36:22):
Yeah, yes, exactly.
Well, thank you so much forthis really rich conversation,
Tara.
I really appreciate all thatyou're doing and the resources
that you create.
And I know you have a new bookcoming out.
Also, we make sure to share allof those things in the show
notes.
But you have a book coming outon November 27th, Embodied
Power.
Can you tell listeners a littlebit more about it?
Tara Jackson (36:41):
Yeah, and thank you so much as well for this
conversation.
Yeah, I love it.
I mean, it's ultimately whatwe've talked about, to be
honest.
It is, you know, for thevisionary leader who never
really fit in, so sensitivepeople ultimately.
But and I see a leader becauseI think we're all leading in
some way, whether it's you'releading yourself or you're
leading a group of people in abusiness, or whether you're a
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teacher or writing a book.
I think we all are here to leadin our own ways.
And it's ultimately about yeah,stepping into your power, who
you are in the world, lettingyourself be more you.
And I've kind of got sort offive elemental gateways within
it.
Power is the main one.
Then we've got love, which is adeeper dive into the body and
really, you know, exploring whatit means to be in a body as
(37:26):
well.
Magic, which is you havemagical powers and gifts.
Let's use them.
We can do more, you know, magicis power.
It doesn't have to just be thetraditional things we had been
taught to believe.
And so we need to use ourmagic.
And it's open, it's you know,it's broad.
You can see what there's thingsthat will resonate, things that
might not.
And then there's money, becausewe do need money in our and but
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it's invites you to look atmoney in a more cyclical way,
and you know, sort of giving andreceiving as well as more of a
flow with money as opposed tojust hoarding, you know, those
sorts of things.
Sure.
It's changing our relationshipwith money, and then leadership.
So the last bit, and that isultimately about leading
yourself, like being a leaderfor you, and then how that
ripples out into the world.
April Snow (38:09):
So oh, I love it.
It seems like you're covering awide range there in how power
shows up and how to pull it intoyour life.
Tara Jackson (38:19):
Yeah, and it's like a I guess a toolbox toolbox
of different things.
You can use it like an offercard, you could open a mancy
tool, you could open up itaround a page, or just look at
the contents, pick a page you'reinterested in, work with that,
and maybe that's it.
Or if you know, let it open uparound a page, whatever.
Yeah.
Lots to work with and just letsupport you.
And it includes personal story,tips, tools, as well as just
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kind of poetry type pieces withactivating kind of energies,
which I feel can sit with youlong afterwards.
And it's the kind of book,honestly, that the frequency and
the energy just kind of stayswith you.
I've noticed myself living it,even writing it, as I'm sure
you'll know with books, theyhave an energy.
Yeah.
So honestly, there's somethingabout the power of it that can
just activate what you need foryou.
(39:03):
And the few people that haveread it so far have definitely
sort of said that as well.
So maybe it will do that foryou too.
April Snow (39:08):
I love that.
It can be a kind of a companionfor your embodiment work for
you know as a tool of reflectionand reconnecting with yourself.
And you can kind of tap intowhatever you're called to within
the book.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Thank you.
Torah, thank you so much.
I'll encourage folks to pick upyour book the end of November.
(39:29):
They can pre-order it now.
Tara Jackson (39:31):
Yes, there's some bonuses if you catch this
before.
There's some pre-order bonuses.
Oh, but a companion workbook, aPDF companion workbook, but
also a live workshop on thelaunch date itself, which is a
Meet Your Leadership Dragonworkshop.
Dragons kind of form thedifferent elemental gateways
because dragons are part of mymagic.
And create a physical touchpoint of it within the session.
(39:54):
So it's all be recorded.
So if you can't join live,that's fine.
I think your time zone it mightbe quite early as well.
Uh-huh.
But it will be, yeah, like meetyour leadership dragon through
a visualization and then thespace to actually create it or
create something from that toactually yeah, spend some time
and space putting it down inwhatever way appeals to you.
It's amazing.
But they'll be available afteranyway.
(40:15):
But yeah, if you do get theyare they're there as a gift.
April Snow (40:20):
Yeah.
Oh, I love this.
It's a whole kind of toolbox ofresources that are coming
through with this book.
Yeah, definitely so much.
Yeah, I'll make sure I shareall of those details in the show
notes for folks so they can tapin and just use those as they
need to.
Love it.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, April.
Thank you, Tara.
Tara Jackson (40:40):
Everything you do.
April Snow (40:41):
Of course, and thank you.
This was a lovely conversationtoday.
Thanks so much for joining meand Tara for today's
conversation.
I hope you feel inspired toreserve a little more time for
yourself and ask the question,what's really going on for me?
(41:02):
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We know what the world needs tobring it into balance, the
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allow rest and honor thedifferent qualities of humans
and just so many things thatsensitivity can show you, can
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This is so much.
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Let's dive in the Tara.
(02:30):
I'm so happy to have you on thepodcast again.
Tara Jackson (02:34):
Thank you.
April Snow (02:35):
Thank you.
And so listeners might rememberyou were on the podcast before,
I believe it was episode 43.
We talked about sensitiveleadership, but now we're gonna
do a little pivot.
We're gonna be exploring thetheme of your new book, Embodied
Power, which is exciting.
Yes.
So I wonder for folks who maynot know what that word means,
embodied, could we just describewhat it is and maybe why it's
(02:58):
important?
Tara Jackson (02:59):
Yeah, I mean, it's as it sounds.
It's literally bringing thingsinto the body and like giving
the body a say in what we do,how we be, how we are, how we
show up, and then how that, youknow, comes into our lives,
different areas of our lives.
But it's you know, reallycoming back into the body
because we're taught from youknow the minute we can read and
write and do things that it'sall up here in the head.
(03:22):
And we, you know, we don'tacknowledge how we feel when
we're hungry, when we'rethirsty, when we're tired, just
our body's messages.
So it's just a real coming backinto the body and starting to
get to know it again and coming,showing up, leading from that
place ultimately, in how I seeit.
April Snow (03:41):
Yeah, it's so true that we disconnect from the body
so much just to keep pushingthrough to keep going,
especially as sensitive people.
We disconnect from kind of ourbiggest source of power,
creativity, information,intuition, which is emotion, and
we lose that, like our greateststrength.
(04:01):
And I love that you said givethe body a say.
And it can be so simple as eatwhen you're hungry, move when
you have that urge, right?
There's easy ways to beembodied in a more intentional
way.
So, what does embodied powerlook like?
So, getting into the theme ofyour book, what does that look
like for us in our lives?
Tara Jackson (04:23):
Well, like you were just touching on right now,
it is, you know, thatreconnection with the body,
getting to know its messages,its signals, when it's a no,
when it's a yes, when it'stired, when it's hungry, you
know, if it's thirsty.
And again, we just we're sounfamiliar with these things
that are so simple, yet to keepus alive and you know, here to
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help us thrive ultimately.
But when we get to know it andyou know, start to honor it,
listen to it, and give it whatit needs, and acknowledge it's
can be hard in our currentsociety and way of living and
being, and you know, all thethings, but doing what we can to
come back to that and yeah,ultimately let it let it speak,
(05:05):
let it have its say, likechoosing our body's needs first,
and you know, letting go of theconditioning and people's
expectations, people pleasing,all the things that we're taught
to how we hang how we should beliving and doing and being, and
yeah, coming back to ourselvesultimately.
And you know, you touched onintuition, for example,
creativity, those things.
(05:25):
So, I mean, it's layered andthere's a lot of different ways
one can get into embodied power,but uh on a simple level, it is
that I think coming back ingetting to know your body and
becoming aware of its messagesfor you.
April Snow (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like just getting to know
yourself or reconnect withyourself.
And I almost see it as kind ofthese layers, like starting with
hunger, thirst, movement, andthen going deeper down.
Would that be true intointuition or creativity?
Tara Jackson (05:56):
I feel that definitely, yeah.
And it often is start with thebasics, and you could even look
at it like the lens of thechakras as well.
And so back to basics at theroot, your survival and what you
need to live, to eat, tobreathe, to feed yourself, those
sorts of things.
And then you can move into thenext one, which is sort of
creativity and passion anddesires.
What are they?
Those sorts of things.
(06:16):
And then it isn't quite like inorder, but yeah, if you look at
those different chakras in thebody, if you're familiar with
them, you get to understandthose needs and desires for each
of them.
And I guess that can also helpopen up awareness of yeah, what
you might need and what thebody's asking for ultimately.
April Snow (06:33):
Yes, exactly.
And I wonder how do we startthat process?
So, how do we start listening?
So, I'm just thinking about ifI'm not doing that already, and
I have been through this processin my life, but it's been many
years since I started thisshift.
And I do remember at a timewhere I wasn't aware of those
(06:54):
bodily impulses or sensations,not really recognizing when I
was hungry or getting sick ornot understanding my emotions.
And it was a little bit of amessy crash back in.
But just thinking about whatare the first steps if you could
share an example, if there's anexample you could think of of
(07:14):
if I'm listening, what'ssomething I could do today to
start hearing myself or turn myattention back inward?
Tara Jackson (07:23):
That is such a good question.
Because yeah, there isn't onestraight thing, and like you, it
was a messy journey back intothat.
And then sort of just happenedin a way, but obviously did take
time.
Yes.
I think it's as simple as evenwhen you're faced with a choice,
you know, you think you'rehungry, or you know, it's just
taking that time, that moment, afew minutes.
Okay, I'm hungry or I'm thirstyor I'm angry or something's
(07:47):
going on, and just stopping.
Yeah, right.
What am I and just taking aminute, maybe just to breathe
and feel well, what's reallygoing on here?
Am I, you know, if you'rehungry, am I really hungry?
And just let yourself see.
Maybe you are, and you mightnot be able to tell.
That's okay.
Maybe, maybe you're thirsty.
Maybe you are actually angry,and there's deeper levels, and
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you know, you could journal oryou could just take a minute and
feel into what's actually goingon underneath here.
And we don't do that, we're nottaught to do that.
But it's these little momentsof awareness that then add up to
this sort of like, oh, I knowmyself, but it does stop with
that myth that you have to stopsomewhere.
You can't just continue,continue, continue.
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You have to stop and get toknow yourself.
Yeah.
What would you do with that?
April Snow (08:31):
Yeah.
No, I love that because when yousaid, Am I really hungry?
And there could be a backingup, just could be a broader
question of what's really goingon here.
Because if I am reaching forsomething to eat, am I hungry or
am I frustrated aboutsomething?
Am I trying to self-soothe insome way?
So yeah, just having thatpause, which is something I
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often encourage my clients todo.
Let me just check this impulseout for a moment.
And you might not get theanswer at first, but just having
the practice of pausing, beingcurious, asking yourself those
questions, what's going on?
Am I really hungry?
Am I angry?
Am I tired?
Have I had a long day?
Just being having someexploration around that, I think
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is a perfect place to start.
It's where I would I wouldstart too.
Because we don't know unless wetake a look.
Tara Jackson (09:20):
Exactly.
And even just expressing howyou're feeling can actually be
very powerful because let's sayyou're feeling all over the
place and it's like I'm angry orI'm hungry.
And even saying it, you realizeactually, no, maybe I'm not
really, or I don't know.
There's something about thepower of even speaking it that
enables you to discern what'sreally going on as well.
Like just to even give yourselfthat space to actually connect
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with what you're feeling andvoice it, or you know, think it
can be very powerful in helpingto build awareness within.
I think.
Absolutely.
April Snow (09:49):
Because it's, I think as soon as you say it out
loud, you can tell if it soundstrue or not.
Exactly.
Tara Jackson (09:55):
Right.
I mean it's like intuition, youknow, some people will feel it,
some people will need to speakit, some people might want to
journal it, or different as weget to know ourselves.
I think even the differentsenses might play up more for
different people as we'regetting to know ourselves.
And so it's also maybeexperimenting a bit to see what
way works for you to bring moreawareness to yourself and your
body.
April Snow (10:15):
Yeah.
That's such a good point thatfind the mode of expression that
you're more likely to be ableto tap into, whether it be
verbal or written or movement orany other way that you express
yourself, those are allvaluable.
Tara Jackson (10:31):
Exactly.
And you know, that's also likehaving space held.
So a lot of my work is aboutholding workshops with just a
question and then space to allowpeople to feel into an answer.
And often it can be varyingquestions, but having that
space, you know, so if you cando a workshop or have some
prompts even just to allowyourself to start to get to know
what might be going on.
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Space is very, very likepowerful for getting to know
your body, yourself, your powerwithin space.
Space always is good, which isyou know very important for
highly sensitive people, ofcourse.
April Snow (11:04):
It is, it absolutely is.
And I think as humans we needspace, but as highly sensitive
people, we need even more spacebecause we're taking so much in,
and there's so much noise andpressure to be doing and moving
so quickly these days that spaceis so precious, it's so rare.
And all those moments of spacethat we used to have built in
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have been taken away becausewe're on a screen or there's you
know input coming in some way.
So, yeah, reclaiming spacecould be really powerful part of
the process.
Tara Jackson (11:39):
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I agree with thatcompletely.
April Snow (11:42):
Yeah, and it's such a good reminder that it doesn't
have to be complicated, it canbe simple.
Tara Jackson (11:47):
Yeah.
I think it is simple.
That's the thing weovercomplicate it so much.
April Snow (11:52):
It's true.
Tara Jackson (11:52):
I mean, and also that we don't need to go into
this, but like the even thewellness industry complicates it
by adding on things saying youneed stuff to help you come
back, but you don't really, youdon't really starts within and
then it can build out, you know.
April Snow (12:06):
But it's so true, you know.
Just taking five minutes to sitquietly by your window could do
more than I don't know, buyingproducts or whatever it is.
Yeah, some nature.
Tara Jackson (12:20):
I mean, we haven't even said nature, like getting
back into nature is the numberone way just to calm your
nervous system, your body, yourbeing, ground, and help you
start to connect with yourselfagain, even without an
intention.
Like you could just be innature for five minutes a day,
every day.
And I guarantee you, at the endof if you did it for a couple
of weeks or something, you'dfeel different, you'd know
yourself better than you did atthe beginning.
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You just would.
You would your body knows whatit's doing.
It's like homeostasis, it comesback to itself slowly, you
know, even in a tiny, tiny way,I believe, anyway.
April Snow (12:50):
I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
Because I think we believe wehave to like consciously go
through everything to move itthrough or heal it, but you can
do so much somatically innature, by osmosis, where your
body, yeah, it's trained ortrained, sounds like a weird
word, but it's inclined to healitself.
Exactly, exactly.
Tara Jackson (13:11):
Yes, and yeah, and movement, like you said as
well, is a big one to any kindof movement, just helps agree
out here and come back into thebody.
April Snow (13:20):
Yes, exactly.
And it works all those stresshormones through and just helps
release them.
Same with being in nature,right?
I don't know all the sciencebehind it, but I know just being
in nature, you start to absorbelements, and it's naturally
calming.
Exactly.
Exactly, yeah.
Tara Jackson (13:37):
So there's many ways to get back to it.
April Snow (13:39):
So many ways, yeah.
So as we're creating some spacefor ourselves, we're maybe
slowing things down, gettinginto nature, or just giving
ourselves some space forexpression.
But how do we make sure thatwe're not giving things away to
others?
Because a lot of times as westart to reclaim our personal
power, we welcome it in, wewelcome in some of that healing.
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We may be inclined as HSPs towant to just give it away.
So, how can we kind of writethat balance and stay rooted in
our personal power?
Tara Jackson (14:11):
Yeah, and then again, it's a bit of a journey
and everyone's different, ofcourse.
April Snow (14:15):
For sure.
Tara Jackson (14:16):
So I think at the beginning, when that happens,
it's definitely aboutboundaries.
Because it's almost like youkind of reclaimed part of
yourself who you are, you'regetting to know it.
It's a bit like an earlyblossoming relationship or a
spring, but you know, a littlebud when it's still tender,
delicate.
So I think there's somethingabout protecting it a little
bit, having boundaries aroundyour energy, your power,
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whatever you really want to callit.
Just this understanding thatright now you might be a bit
more tender and vulnerable, andyou need to look out for you.
And of course, you still do itlater, but even more so in the
beginning, I think, because itis so easy, just probably
because of patterns,conditioning, habits.
You I've got more, I can givemore kind of thing, or whatever
it might be.
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And so I think realizing youalmost have to let your nervous
system get used to it as well,like as you increase your
capacity or whatever else youknow is going on underneath and
within the layers.
And yeah, it does take sometime of just kind of holding
that, letting it beuncomfortable.
Maybe it's like, oh, I havemore energy, I've got more
space, I've got more time.
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This is weird.
And you almost feel like, yeah,you have to give it away, but
you have to almost get used tothat, I think, in the beginning,
whatever that looks like foryou, those boundaries and that
kind of protection, you know, ofyour energy, your space, etc.
And then once you get to knowthat, it's kind of discernment,
I think.
You know, what is aligned forme?
Like, so then you start to askthis yes, no, or you play a bit
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with it, you get to know it likewith anything.
And you know, if I do this,support this, how am I gonna
feel afterwards?
Is it gonna drain me for thenext two days, six days?
You almost you get to knowyourself again, and you'll keep
getting to know yourself as youevolve with this.
And so, yeah, I think that'ssome of the ways just to start
to get to you know what youcould do to not give it away
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determinement, and then it's ajourney from there, and just
getting to know how your energyfeels when you've done certain
things, that sort of thing.
April Snow (16:07):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a good reminder thatwe can check in with ourselves
after how am I feeling?
What do I need?
But also we can do thatpreemptively before we make a
decision, before we decide tosupport someone else or show up
for someone else.
You know, how am I doing?
What do I need?
Do I have enough bandwidth tomove forward?
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And I appreciate you using themetaphor of like the little bud
because that's exactly how itfeels at the beginning.
Like a little bit vulnerable, alittle precious.
We don't have quite thosestrong roots yet.
So we have to be really gentlewith ourselves, and it's okay to
protect yourself.
You know, I just was thinking,like, oh, protect your power.
I was just saying that tomyself in my mind as you were
talking.
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Like, that's okay to do.
We don't have to give it allaway.
Tara Jackson (16:55):
No, absolutely.
And just going back to what yousaid about yeah, the roots, I
think it is growing those roots,and they do have to grow deeper
for you to be able to flourishmore and give, you know, grow
your branches.
And and that can take differentforms.
Something I just that came intomy mind was I like to do sort
of challenges with myself andhave done for years now.
And they often actually revolvearound the things like the
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basic nourishment, nutrition,kind of things like that.
So I play a lot with fastingand cleansing just because it's
something that I enjoy and Ilive in the tropics, it's also
quite conducive to it.
Yes, and a lot easierdefinitely than winters in the
far northern hemisphere.
But so I'd often do things likejust eating really healthy live
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foods for you know two weeks orsomething just to really
experiment, cutting out allprocessed foods, caffeine.
You know, I'd stopped drinkingalcohol, which was came through
experimenting, not drinkingalcohol for a month, and just
realizing how I changed, and weknow it doesn't help us, but it
took me a number of challengesor times you know, experimenting
with certain things to sort ofget to know myself and deepen my
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roots so that I can you knowget to know myself even better,
show up even more for myself inmy power and do more things, be
more, etc., that I want that I'mchoosing for my life.
So there's something around,yeah, you get to play with it a
little bit.
I seem to say, not everyoneelse will, but it's like what
supports you, or it could bejournaling every day.
I didn't morning pages for sixmonths or for a month or even a
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week, and just noticing how youfeel, what nourishes you, what
sustains you, what builds you.
And as you do this, I knowyou're also aware of these
things, it just builds yourtoolbox of what kind of feeds
you and what nourishes you sothat you get to you know bring
more of that and you into theworld as you want to, I guess.
April Snow (18:35):
Yeah, exactly.
I love that idea of carving outthese intentional spaces.
I've also been a person who'sdone, I used to work in natural
foods before I became atherapist.
So tried all the things.
Tara Jackson (18:46):
Yes, yeah, love it.
April Snow (18:48):
And it is kind of my version of fun, like you know,
my version of fun is likegetting together with friends
and meditating or you know,doing things like that, right?
Doing readings, just a bunch ofHSPs connecting on a spiritual
level.
Exactly.
But having those times whereit's all about self-exploration
and trying things on.
And because you're saying, youknow, like you said, with
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alcohol, you didn't really knowthe impact, maybe, or that you
didn't want to incorporate ituntil you took a break.
And you're like, oh yeah.
And the same has happened to mewith certain foods or you know,
things that I've done in mylife where it's like, oh, I
actually feel a lot better ormore connected to myself.
And I didn't realize how I wasfeeling before.
Tara Jackson (19:29):
Exactly.
And that's what I'm onto now.
I mean, alcohol's been a numberof years to me now, but there's
now foods, and it's justrealizing certain foods give me
brain fog and don't work for meanymore.
And it's sad, but I'm having toI'm playing with that now
because I want to feel energizedand well, and you can feel so
good.
And you don't realize you knowhow bad you are feeling until
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you cut these things out orexperiment with it and see how
good you can feel, and that'slike, wow, why wouldn't I want
that?
April Snow (19:56):
Exactly.
And what it sounds like an kindof a way to step into your
personal power of I'm nourishingmy body, I'm doing things that
are aligned for me, and I'mgonna feel even better, which
sounds amazing.
Tara Jackson (20:10):
Absolutely, but just to acknowledge also, you
know, this has taken this hasbeen a journey.
I didn't start here at all by,you know, it would have been
impossible for me like 10 yearsago, 15 years ago, to cut out
the things I did today becauseoften there's layers of healing
and trauma in those things thathave happened and been held and
released and you know, etc.
throughout the years.
So I just want to say that itmight be like, okay, it's like
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easy for you to do this now, butat the beginning of my journey,
it really wasn't, because ityou just start with the little
things as we kind of talkedabout in the beginning.
Yeah, yeah.
April Snow (20:40):
And I appreciate that because if someone is at
the I'm just thinking aboutmyself 20, 25 years ago at the
very beginning, yeah, there's noway I was doing things than
doing now then.
It was a very incremental shiftover decades.
Yeah.
And I think it'll continue foreven more decades because my
philosophy is we're alwayshealing, we're always growing.
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That's a lifelong pursuit.
So I don't put the pressure onmyself to do it all right now.
It and also as HSPs, we want todeep dive, we want to do all
the things.
So just yeah, a reminder justto pace yourself.
Tara Jackson (21:15):
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, and as you say that makesme think this is it, it's the
slowing down, it's the longgame, I suppose.
You know, this quick fix,instant gratification life, and
I've wanted it, sure.
I still can find myself wantingit, but it's that the slow
savoring, the little things thatare so powerful for us as HSPs,
especially but for the worldand power in the world, in my
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opinion.
But just yeah, many things thatexactly.
April Snow (21:41):
Yeah, I mean, we keep coming back to it, but
there's so much value in slowingdown, getting quiet with
yourself.
Tara Jackson (21:48):
Yeah, yeah, the whole world needs that.
April Snow (21:51):
Oh, we need it so bad.
We really do, and it's a goodreminder that you know what HSPs
need, everybody could benefitfrom.
Tara Jackson (21:58):
We just tend to feel it more when we're so cute,
we cut you feel it, we get whatwe need in my exactly.
April Snow (22:05):
It's true, like we're the like lightning rods,
or however you want to say it.
Tara Jackson (22:09):
We can tell you because we feel it so much more
on so many levels, good and bad,you know.
April Snow (22:13):
Exactly.
And another reason to kind ofown your power or your position
as an HSP, I think we often putourselves to the side of like,
oh, we're the weaker group insociety, and it's not true.
We have everybody has an equalplace, but we do have a very
specific role of bringing thingsto light.
Tara Jackson (22:33):
And yeah, and within that, there's something
even came up in conversationwith someone earlier today who's
an HSP empath colleague, andit's just really advocating for
ourselves.
And you're doing this throughyour platform, which is so
incredible.
But even as an individual, likebecause we're so used to being,
oh, I'm so sensitive, or I'm sosorry, I'm being fussy, or I'm
being too much, or you know, andI still hear myself saying
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these things or thinking them ifI haven't said them, but we
have to advocate.
No, I am sensitive.
I need this, this, and this, orI'm just not gonna have that
because too much.
And we don't advocate forourselves enough.
So this is a whole goes a bitfast.
I know, but it's definitelythere.
April Snow (23:11):
I do see this in the realm of power, at least in the
way that I'm thinking of it.
And you may have a differentperception of it given that
you're the book, but it is aboutI think using our voice and
believing that we have value andstepping into that role that we
have, as I just mentioned.
I think there is a lot of powerin that and saying, you know,
I'm okay just as I am, and I'mgonna do what I need to do to
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take care of myself so I can bethe best version of who I am
instead of feeling like I needto kind of hide away and just
get through life and be off tothe side.
Tara Jackson (23:42):
No, I'm with you.
That's what the book is about.
It's being more you, lettingyourself be you completely.
Yeah.
And taking up that space orwhatever that means to you or
looks like life, yeah.
April Snow (23:52):
Which is very exciting to me because you know,
being kind of really immersedin the HSP community and
watching how conversations go indifferent circles online or in
person.
And a lot of HSPs do.
I I feel I feel sad because alot of HSPs do kind of set their
power aside or don't recognizeit or don't have access to it,
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or feel like they have to livelike everyone else does, and
then they get stripped of that,and there's too much noise to
see.
Oh, here's what I really need,here's who I really am, here's
what I can offer myself andeveryone else.
So yeah, I always appreciatehaving these conversations just
to remind folks that sensitivityisn't what we've potentially
made it out to be.
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It's actually there's a lot ofvalue there.
That is your power.
It is sensitivity is yourpower.
Tara Jackson (24:37):
Thank you.
April Snow (24:38):
Yes, exactly.
Tara Jackson (24:39):
100% your power, I feel.
April Snow (24:41):
Right, yeah.
Tara Jackson (24:42):
And it can be powerful.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Oh, yes, and I think when weown who we are and what it means
to be sensitive.
Oh my goodness.
April Snow (24:52):
Yes.
Tara Jackson (24:52):
Oh, that feels exciting.
Doesn't it feel exciting?
Yeah, yeah.
April Snow (24:57):
And so I wonder if we could start then talking
about just how sensitivity orsoftness or things that are
often I think perceived as moreweak can actually be a form of
strength and a form of personalpower.
Yeah.
Tara Jackson (25:11):
Why do you think that is?
I mean, it takes courage to beset soft, it takes so much
courage in this world to allowyourself to soften, to be
vulnerable, to open your heart.
I mean, I see it really in thispart of your body.
And when you allow yourself tobe soft, you create connection,
you really hear someone, seesomeone, or you're more open to
that.
You're and you're more open toyour gifts and your intuition
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and your you know creativity andwho you truly are.
And that's so courageous to bethat in the world.
Sorry, yeah, I forgot what yourquestion was because I know
it's okay, we're just kind ofgoing through it.
April Snow (25:46):
But you're so right that you know, being more soft
is vulnerable, but but it doestake a lot of, I think I was
always reminding my clients ofthis that to feel this deeply
while living your life, doingeverything that everyone else is
doing, it takes a lot ofresilience, it takes a lot of
power, it takes a lot ofstrength.
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Especially it's not justfeeling, but it's sensing, it's
intuiting.
Because if just trying to putthis into words, this feeling.
Because if you're walkingthrough the world as an HSP, you
have all these uh 10 out andpicking up on all these little
sensations and clues and piecesof information, and which then
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is sparking emotion in you, andyou're picking up on other
people's emotions, it's a verybusy inner world that's
happening, yeah.
And to feel and be with all ofthat at such a deep level, it
does take a lot of strength todo that.
You know, we're really feelingit, opening ourselves up to
everything that's happening inthe world.
And let's be honest, right nowit's a lot.
And I I guess it surprises mehow much we think that we aren't
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powerful to do all that.
Tara Jackson (26:55):
I think I mean, I'll speak for myself, but and a
lot of people I've worked withas well, but we shut it down a
lot of that, you know, when theworld is overwhelming and too
much.
I mean, whilst I was sort ofon, I guess, my healing journey
for lack of a better way ofdescribing it, I wish, you know,
I had shut down a lot of mysenses massively.
So I didn't have to feel somuch, so I didn't have to
receive so much and deal with somuch.
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And but it's through, you know,becoming back into, and I think
health is a huge part of it,feeling good in yourself and
nourishing and you know, lookingafter yourself on a physical
level that yeah, you're able toopen up so much more to yeah,
the senses that you talkedabout, the antenna, and to
receive all that.
And then you start, you doremember, you know, what a gift
and how powerful it really is.
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And then it's like, okay, nowwe can return on, we can go like
this, you know, it's creative,it's magical, it's intuitive,
it's so powerful on so manylevels that we know, but the
world hasn't even reallyexperienced yet.
I don't think we you know, wecould go so much further with
our sensitive powers, I think,in the world.
Yeah.
April Snow (27:57):
Oh, absolutely we could.
Tara Jackson (28:00):
I think it's time.
It's time.
That's why we're here.
That's why we're here.
I believe we are here becausewe feel so much, we know what
the world needs to bring it intobalance to balance this crazy
world that we live in right now,which we don't know to go into.
But oh my goodness, thesensitivity just to slow down,
to live more cyclically, toallow rest and honor, you know,
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the different qualities ofhumans, not just forcing,
pushing the more masculinequalities, etc., that have been,
you know, put in front of humanones, for example, and just so
many things that sensitivity canshow you, can bring you, can
open you up to.
And yeah, that's just so much.
April Snow (28:39):
Yes, I love it.
I can feel it.
Like that's why we're here,right?
That's why we exist assensitive people, is we do have
all these gifts that want andneed to come to the surface.
And if we allow ourselves thatspace to reconnect inward, to be
in our bodies, and I know, likeyou said, we tend to want to
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cut off because it is a lot tofeel it.
However, I found that itbecomes a lot more tolerable,
easy, exciting when I am doingmy somatic practices, when I am
getting into nature, when I amnourishing my body, kind of
taking out all the gunk and thenoise and focusing on nourishing
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and whatever way that is.
And it's a lot easier to bepresent within.
Now, again, it's a journey.
Tara Jackson (29:26):
It's a journey, definitely.
April Snow (29:28):
But that does really shift the tides.
Tara Jackson (29:32):
It really, really does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, what the space youare for being a part of a
community and recognizing you'renot alone is so important,
especially in the beginning.
I mean, all of the time, butespecially in the early days
when you're starting to realizewhy you're different for a lot
of people as well, and whythings take longer or affect you
more, or you know, etc.
I mean, even now, like why am Iso sensitive to certain foods
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and my partner isn't?
It's frustrating sometimes, butit's that's my gift too, you
know.
And yeah, yeah.
Actually, there's a littlestory of a friend of mine who's
also very sensitive.
Like, I mean, I'm the same, butif someone in the house uses,
you know, chemicals and thecleaning products, you she's
it's awful.
I mean, I can't breathe, itwill block me up for days.
And it's like, we can tell thatthis is not good for you, but
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other people don't mind.
And it's you see, this is youknow why we are needed because
it's not good for you.
We know it's not.
And we can tell that.
W just we are.
Whereas other people wouldn'tnotice till it's too late or you
know, calming them in some way.
There you go.
That's a tiny little randomexample, but I think that we are
heated.
And yeah, that's why we'rehere.
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Our sensitivities can tell.
April Snow (30:38):
I get excited when you bring up that example
because that is one of mybiggest.
I don't know if pet peeve isthe right word, but something
that really bothers me in lifeis everyone is using all these
chemicals these days, likefragrances and things that what
will not leave your clothes nomatter how hard you try.
And I'm like, that there'sthat's a problem.
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That cannot be good for you.
Tara Jackson (31:02):
Yeah.
It's not.
I mean, some of these like theydisrupt your hormones, your
endocrine system, and some ofthe chemicals in them, right?
That's as much as I know.
I but I do know that there'sother things that they do.
But one of my biggest petpeeves, I mean, it's
debilitating.
So I like I literally won't goout to certain places if I know
that there's going to be lots ofpeople wearing perfumes and
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things because it's way toomuch, and it will, it's
nauseating.
I get headaches and multiplethings, and it skees on you, and
I can taste it.
Same.
Oh my gosh, it's awful.
April Snow (31:36):
Same.
I have the I think we're havingthe same reaction because I'll
get headaches and I getcongestion or allergies.
And even like walking.
So my wife and I will do anevening walk, and sometimes you
walk by a house that you cansmell the laundry from the
sidewalk.
Tara Jackson (31:49):
Oh my gosh.
April Snow (31:50):
Yeah.
And then you're right, you cantaste it.
Tara Jackson (31:53):
You can taste it.
For me, it's like go to aforest to get fresh air to walk
to like to you know nourishmyself.
And you get people with walkingwith nasty cologne.
And I have to change directionsand find another room because I
can taste you for the next twometers or something.
It's just it's true.
April Snow (32:09):
It's true.
And I think a lot of well,there I think probably there's
two layers.
One, other people's sensesaren't as fine-tuned as ours.
And then a two, you kind of getnose blindness where you don't
smell it anymore.
Tara Jackson (32:22):
Yeah, 100%.
April Snow (32:24):
So then for an HSP who's a little more sensory
sensitive, it's completely overoverwhelming.
And yeah, we do have thosephysical reactions, which is an
indicator like something is notokay here.
Tara Jackson (32:37):
Exactly.
April Snow (32:38):
And we are the canaries in the coal mine,
right?
We're the ones that sense thatsomething is a little bit off
before everyone else can.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's just, you know, thisis just one example of so many.
So many.
Tara Jackson (32:55):
Exactly.
April Snow (32:55):
And there's a reason why, just to get a little
technical, there's a reason why,you know, evolutionary
speaking, that sensitivity haspersisted throughout thousands
of years.
Right?
Tara Jackson (33:09):
In our human, not just humans, but in animals and
insects and exactly children,for goodness sake, are like
exactly numb later on.
April Snow (33:20):
Exactly.
Tara Jackson (33:22):
You know, them are so sensitive.
April Snow (33:24):
For sure.
And there's a reason for that.
Yeah, you know, usually if afamily has multiple children,
you get different temperaments,and that sensitive one is
important.
So it was the non-sensitive,maybe more extroverted one too.
You need someone that's gonnajust jump right in.
You need someone who's gonnahang back and notice the little
details, like I thinksomething's off here.
Maybe we all would be better ifwe didn't eat that food or use
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that chemical or whatever it is.
Tara Jackson (33:46):
Yeah, there's also to bring balance, right?
We need all of it, but it's gotso out of balance with one way
and the more extroverted, pushy,you know, forward ones, and we
need that sensitive, intuitive,creative, softer, gentler
approach to come back in tosupport everyone.
Because we care about, I thinkpersonally, I believe we care
(34:07):
about the whole more as well.
We see that more.
We you know, we feel the thingsmore than than many.
April Snow (34:13):
We really do, exactly.
So yeah, hopefully listenerswill kind of I hope they'll be
inspired, and this can remindyou that there is power in
softness and sensitivity andquiet, there's a deeper meaning
for it.
Tara Jackson (34:27):
And there's more meaning.
I know there are there's somany gold.
Yeah.
April Snow (34:33):
Yeah, we're only scratching the surface here.
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, yes.
I'm wondering as we start towrap up, if there is maybe some
final thoughts for folks who arelistening who are wanting to
maybe reconnect with themselves,reconnect with their personal
power.
Are there any final thoughtsthat you want to leave folks
(34:54):
with?
Tara Jackson (34:55):
I just I think it's that just a reminder that
yeah, your sensitivity is yourstrength, your power.
Because it is so easy todismiss it and forget that.
So and just push it aside orthink you need to change or be
different or something else tolive in the world we live in.
But if you remember it's yourpower for a reason, even if you
don't know why in that moment,you know, when it life gets
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tough sometimes and you you feelso sensitive, just remember
it's your power.
And I think that's it.
Just that remembering andknowing can help move you
forward and just remember youare needed because you're you,
like you have gifts because ofyour sensitivity.
So that's okay, because it isyour power.
April Snow (35:35):
I love that.
Thank you, Tara.
And what a beautiful reminderthat you are needed because of
who you are, right?
Your unique version ofsensitivity is just right.
Yeah, absolutely.
So hopefully we can take careof ourselves to be able to
nurture that sensitivity andreconnect with the strengths of
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it.
Tara Jackson (35:58):
Yes, and oh my goodness, oh that gift and just
that journey and exploration isso much fun when you let
yourself go into that and get toknow yourself.
Because you know, said we liketo deep dive and you get to deep
dive even to yourself.
And I just find it so soincredible.
It's quite quite fun.
April Snow (36:13):
Oh, it is incredible, it really is.
There's so much inside to it.
Tara Jackson (36:19):
So much magic, so much, so many different levels
and layers.
April Snow (36:22):
Yeah, yes, exactly.
Well, thank you so much forthis really rich conversation,
Tara.
I really appreciate all thatyou're doing and the resources
that you create.
And I know you have a new bookcoming out.
Also, we make sure to share allof those things in the show
notes.
But you have a book coming outon November 27th, Embodied
Power.
Can you tell listeners a littlebit more about it?
Tara Jackson (36:41):
Yeah, and thank you so much as well for this
conversation.
Yeah, I love it.
I mean, it's ultimately whatwe've talked about, to be
honest.
It is, you know, for thevisionary leader who never
really fit in, so sensitivepeople ultimately.
But and I see a leader becauseI think we're all leading in
some way, whether it's you'releading yourself or you're
leading a group of people in abusiness, or whether you're a
(37:03):
teacher or writing a book.
I think we all are here to leadin our own ways.
And it's ultimately about yeah,stepping into your power, who
you are in the world, lettingyourself be more you.
And I've kind of got sort offive elemental gateways within
it.
Power is the main one.
Then we've got love, which is adeeper dive into the body and
really, you know, exploring whatit means to be in a body as
(37:26):
well.
Magic, which is you havemagical powers and gifts.
Let's use them.
We can do more, you know, magicis power.
It doesn't have to just be thetraditional things we had been
taught to believe.
And so we need to use ourmagic.
And it's open, it's you know,it's broad.
You can see what there's thingsthat will resonate, things that
might not.
And then there's money, becausewe do need money in our and but
(37:48):
it's invites you to look atmoney in a more cyclical way,
and you know, sort of giving andreceiving as well as more of a
flow with money as opposed tojust hoarding, you know, those
sorts of things.
Sure.
It's changing our relationshipwith money, and then leadership.
So the last bit, and that isultimately about leading
yourself, like being a leaderfor you, and then how that
ripples out into the world.
April Snow (38:09):
So oh, I love it.
It seems like you're covering awide range there in how power
shows up and how to pull it intoyour life.
Tara Jackson (38:19):
Yeah, and it's like a I guess a toolbox toolbox
of different things.
You can use it like an offercard, you could open a mancy
tool, you could open up itaround a page, or just look at
the contents, pick a page you'reinterested in, work with that,
and maybe that's it.
Or if you know, let it open uparound a page, whatever.
Yeah.
Lots to work with and just letsupport you.
And it includes personal story,tips, tools, as well as just
(38:43):
kind of poetry type pieces withactivating kind of energies,
which I feel can sit with youlong afterwards.
And it's the kind of book,honestly, that the frequency and
the energy just kind of stayswith you.
I've noticed myself living it,even writing it, as I'm sure
you'll know with books, theyhave an energy.
Yeah.
So honestly, there's somethingabout the power of it that can
just activate what you need foryou.
(39:03):
And the few people that haveread it so far have definitely
sort of said that as well.
So maybe it will do that foryou too.
April Snow (39:08):
I love that.
It can be a kind of a companionfor your embodiment work for
you know as a tool of reflectionand reconnecting with yourself.
And you can kind of tap intowhatever you're called to within
the book.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Thank you.
Torah, thank you so much.
I'll encourage folks to pick upyour book the end of November.
(39:29):
They can pre-order it now.
Tara Jackson (39:31):
Yes, there's some bonuses if you catch this
before.
There's some pre-order bonuses.
Oh, but a companion workbook, aPDF companion workbook, but
also a live workshop on thelaunch date itself, which is a
Meet Your Leadership Dragonworkshop.
Dragons kind of form thedifferent elemental gateways
because dragons are part of mymagic.
And create a physical touchpoint of it within the session.
(39:54):
So it's all be recorded.
So if you can't join live,that's fine.
I think your time zone it mightbe quite early as well.
Uh-huh.
But it will be, yeah, like meetyour leadership dragon through
a visualization and then thespace to actually create it or
create something from that toactually yeah, spend some time
and space putting it down inwhatever way appeals to you.
It's amazing.
But they'll be available afteranyway.
(40:15):
But yeah, if you do get theyare they're there as a gift.
April Snow (40:20):
Yeah.
Oh, I love this.
It's a whole kind of toolbox ofresources that are coming
through with this book.
Yeah, definitely so much.
Yeah, I'll make sure I shareall of those details in the show
notes for folks so they can tapin and just use those as they
need to.
Love it.
Thank you.
Thank you so much, April.
Thank you, Tara.
Tara Jackson (40:40):
Everything you do.
April Snow (40:41):
Of course, and thank you.
This was a lovely conversationtoday.
Thanks so much for joining meand Tara for today's
conversation.
I hope you feel inspired toreserve a little more time for
yourself and ask the question,what's really going on for me?
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If you're ready to reclaim yourcreativity, intuition, and
sensitive strengths, pick upTara's new book, Embodied Power,
out November 27th.
You can pre-order it now onbookshop.org or anywhere you buy
your books online to get thepre-sale bonuses.
Links are in the show notes.
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