May 8, 2024 • 33 mins
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Feeling like you don't quite fit in? Join us for an eye-opening conversation about embracing your weirdness with the incredible Birgitta Granström!
From her journey in the corporate world to becoming a digital nomad and now residing in sunny California, Birgitta's insights will inspire you to rethink how you navigate life and human interaction.
Join us as we explore the fascinating world of weirdness, self-discovery, and the power of embracing your true self.
Welcome to the world of weirdness!
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
02:59 - Why is it important to embrace our weirdness?
07:43 - Have you ever felt like you don't belong?
08:53 - Is everyone weird and just suppressing it?
12:51 - How do we know if we are weird?
13:51 - How can we embrace our weirdness?
16:15 - Tips for when you're having a hard time embracing weirdness
18:37 - What's the difference in the world if more people embrace their weirdness?
23:28 - Learn about Birgitta's weird test
29:51 - Why do we need to celebrate sensitivity?
31:47 - Birgitta's final message to sensitive folks
32:59 - Outro
Birgitta's The Web of Weird Test: click here
Know more about Birgitta's work at:
https://www.lifespideracademy.com
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Instagram: @lifespideracademy
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Frida Kabo (00:00):
Hi, it's Frida Kabo.
I've had some greatconversations with
awesome people, and Ithought why keep the
conversations in the archive.
I want to share them with you.
So here is one of theconversations from the
Sensitive Success Summit.
Enjoy.
Welcome to the SensitiveSuccess Podcast, where we
(00:20):
explore the unique challengesand opportunities that
comes with being a sensitivechangemaker in today's world.
I'm your host, Frida Kabo,and I have spent the last
decade recreating my life.
I moved from Sweden to NewZealand and now live in the
beautiful bush with my husbandand two kids, homeschooling and
creating a life and businessthat works for me with the
help of my sensitivity andsupport others to do the same.
(00:44):
I'm excited to shareconversations with experts,
thought leaders, and fellowsensitive people who also
see the world throughthe lens of sensitivity.
Thank you so much for beinghere, because it means that
you're creating sensitivesuccess too, which is
precisely what the world needs.
Let's get started.
(01:04):
Many of us sensitives can feelweird and like we don't fit in.
This can be seen as somethingnegative, but in this
conversation we're going totalk about being weird and how
we can embrace it even more.
And today's expert is reallyweird, and proud of it.
Birgitta Gronström has devotedher life to understanding
human behavior and decodingthe meaning of life.
(01:27):
She is a pioneer in the coachingindustry, an author, and an
early adopter of generative AI.
Birgitta spent over twodecades in the corporate world
teaching personal development,leadership, and coaching.
She was a trailblazer inthe coaching industry in
Sweden, founding the first ICFaccredited coaching training
program, and served as presidentof ICF Nordic in Stockholm.
(01:50):
Then she left all thatto become a digital nomad
before it was a thing.
And now she lives in thewilderness in sunny California.
Birgitta's lifelong quest toanswer the profound questions.
Why do people behave as they doand what is the meaning of life?
Let her to develop an innovativeapproach to life and human
interaction, the Life SpiderSystem, a revolution in
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psychology and life philosophy.
It challenges old belief systemsand provokes established social
structures, leading us torethink how we live our lives.
And how we interact withthe world around us.
And I have the honor ofbeing one of the VEGETA
Certified Lifespider Coaches.
And I just love that youare in, wanted to join
(02:34):
this conversation with me.
Welcome, VEGETA.
Birgitta Granstrom (02:37):
Thank you.
And I'm so happy to be here.
And I'm proud to have youas one of the Life Certified
Lifespider Coaches, Frida.
So it's been very exciting.
Yeah.
Frida Kabo (02:46):
I am so excited for this conversation because
as always when I talk toyou, I never know what,
where it's going to go.
But yeah, start by tellingus a bit more about yourself
and why you think it'simportant to embrace our weird.
Okay.
So I think, uh, not
Birgitta Granstrom (03:02):
talk that much about myself, uh, except
that, you know, everyone whois weird or the sensitive.
You know from the beginningthat there is something
you are different, but ittakes you a while before you
understand that, Oh, I'm notthinking as, or other people
is not thinking as I am.
So that's the biggestdifference, and then it starts
(03:23):
to question, and uh, the mostof the weird ones we ask why
and how we want to have the deepanswers, and then the common
traits among all the weird ones.
And maybe, I should start withwhen you describe the weirdness.
I mean, if we go back and reallycheck on the word weird, so it
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means it's a Germanic 1400s,1200s, uh, word that from
the beginning if you check onthe dictionary it means have
the power to control destiny.
Okay, so I just want to startto say that because we need to
have another approach to weird.
(04:04):
Because weird means thatyou are allowed to be
exactly who you are.
And when you are unique and youare sticking out, you are not
fitting into the, to the system.
And especially now whenwe are in a huge shift
in the society, in theworld, the technology, and
everything is moving so fast.
(04:25):
And to me, the weird ones,and the weird ones, I have
also choose to use the wordweird because it includes
all people maybe who havea label, who are different.
Because most are sensitive.
I mean, Ibring in the sensitive in
the, in the weird ones too.
Because most of the time,one label is not enough.
(04:46):
You maybe have the ADHD,you are autistic, you are
sensitive, and whatever.
But you have, you area leader of everything.
Yeah.
I love what you're saying aboutbeing weird and, and the, the
deeper meaning of the word andalso that you include everyone.
It's, uh, with, yeah.
Neurodiversity, I guess is, is.
(05:08):
Yeah.
And you, I, I would, yeah, andI would define the weird ones,
they are the highly intelligent,you are sensitive because
you have a huge intuition.
I mean, you see throughpeople, you smell a lie
for hundreds of miles.
You know more about people thanthey know about themselves.
You are processing informationdifferently because you
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can receive so much withall your senses and you
have a processing machine.
That means that.
All, you can pick up informationand you can put them together
in new constellations.
So that's why youalso are so creative.
And the weird ones alsois looking for solutions.
And when they see a problem,many other people haven't
(05:52):
seen yet, the weird oneis there with a solution.
And this can be really confusingfor people around them, and,
uh, and that's why they aretrying to fit them into a box
and say, Okay, you are abnormal,you need a label, you are ADHD,
you need to sit still, and youcannot communicate correctly,
because, and weird one, youcan skip this middle part.
(06:16):
I mean, ordinary people isthinking, linear thinking, and
they need to take one step at atime, otherwise they get lost.
But for a weird one, they seethe problem and here is the
solution and everything inbetween is not interesting.
And so, so we communicateand that's also when you meet
other weird ones, you have another type of conversation.
(06:38):
You dive right into what'simportant and you can
leave the rest behind.
And that's why you feelanother weird one and then
you, you feel like you haveknown them like forever.
And you are in a deepconversation immediately.
So there is special traits,and those traits I, uh,
mention right now, youcan find them in the ADHD.
(06:59):
There are special traits,and it's a genius trait,
but the society try to tellyou that you are not normal.
You need to adapt, you needto sit still, you need to be
average, you need to focus.
And that's why it's socomplicated for neurodiverse.
Even the neurodiversegenre right now has
(07:19):
started to become a box.
And that's why theweird ones is open up.
It's not a box.
It's a self imposed descriptionof who you are that much wider.
Frida Kabo (07:30):
I can sometimes feel like a sensitive that
I'm like a social chameleonwhere I Feel like I, yeah,
I can fit in anywhere, butI don't belong anywhere.
Birgitta Granstrom (07:43):
That got me goosebumps, because that
exactly, and that's the problemthe weird ones have, that
they can't fit in everywhere,because they're such a brilliant
observer, and when weirdones take a room, they are
scanning the energy, they arelooking at the people, they
are listening to conversation.
And then they decide, okay, soin this place, I can be this
(08:04):
person, but they don't reallyfeel below because they're so
good to play role to fit in.
And just because they can,and they care so much about
other people, they don't wantto make others uncomfortable.
So it's easier to adapt.
And that's in the long run, ifyou just keep on, uh, adaptive.
That's why you also haveso many mental issues among
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the weird ones, because youare holding yourself back.
Frida Kabo (08:30):
It feels like there's a, on the one hand,
you try to fit in in society,like everyone should be normal
and the same, and the boxes,you know, But also, on the
other hand, everyone should beunique and you should be, be
weird and should take place.
So do you think thateveryone is weird, really?
And we're justsuppressing it or?
Birgitta Granstrom (08:53):
No, I think there is a difference.
And I think that's important.
So every singleindividual are unique.
with, uh, with your experience,your traits, your everything.
So everyone absolutely unique,but not everyone is weird.
So it's a really, it'san important distinguish
because something you say,Oh, everybody's unique.
Yes, you are, but you arenot weird because there are
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kind of a special species.
I mean, you may be, you havethe legs and the arms and
the head and the, but thereis a different species.
I mean, it's a dog and agoat and a horse and a cow.
Okay.
I mean, it's still justanimals on four, four legs,
and each individuals inbetween, yeah, you are unique.
So they're still, I mean,the, what you can call it,
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normies, the average people.
They should still, theyshould strive for being unique
and have, because they alsohave trouble to adapting.
So we have similars, maybeissues and problems, but
it's two different species.
And it's the approach,how we solve problems and
how we get help to empowerourselves are different.
(10:00):
Totally different.
And that's also why it's sohard for a weird one one day.
And they get maybe adepression or they get in
those dark, dark holes to finda therapist or a psychology
or a coach that can approachthem and understand them.
In their awareness,it's really hard.
So most of the time the weirdones end up and they are sitting
(10:21):
with a therapist and they feelsorry for the therapist and
they give them what they want.
They are also, because theyknow what question they want.
And they're like, Then they say,thank you, I'll see you next
week and they never go back.
Frida Kabo (10:33):
Okay.
Yeah, it's interesting becauseI read an article about kids
with ADHD, or on the autismspectrum I think it was, and
they had done the whisperinggame, you know, where you sit
in a circle and you whisper.
And they had split the groupsin, into, uh, not autistic
(10:53):
and autistic, and both thosegroups understood each other.
But it was when you mixedthe people that they didn't
understand each other andhad more problems than when
they were in separate groups.
Birgitta (11:06):
That was interesting.
I am really interested.
You can give me more ofthat so I can read into it.
And I think that's the thingwhat you are saying now, because
I can see even the neurodiversebranches or what you call it.
They are trying to say, okay,we need to adapt the ADHD or all
those with the neurodiverse needto be helped and get everything.
But that's not righteither, because we
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need to do it both way.
Because even those whoare weird, the weird ones
need to understand whatthose average people need.
And you, even if you areweird, you can adapt, you,
you can communicate, youcan learn certain skills.
But the difference isright now, it's different.
If you learn and you know,okay, now I am playing the game.
(11:51):
I do this because I have to,to facilitate the communication
with those other people.
And understand, an averageperson cannot understand
you because they don't havethat level of awareness.
And you cannot be mad orfrustrated or angry and
disappointed or someone whodon't know how to do it.
I mean, you can't blamea baby for not walking.
(12:15):
Okay.
That's kind of the same.
So I think we have to open upthe discussion exactly what
they did in this experimentand to communicate it both
way and respect and acceptthe different way of being,
but not judge it as good, asbad or whatever, because we
can still, we need each other.
And there where we have thealso the bridge builder in
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the stuff that we really needto communicate both words.
Frida Kabo (12:41):
Yeah, I totally agree.
So how do we know ifwe're hiding our weird?
How do we know if we are weird?
If we are hiding, if we reallyshould embrace our weird?
Birgitta Granstrom (12:51):
I would say the most common symptom, the
hiding within us is frustration.
It's frustration, and it couldbe sadness, and confusion.
That's the most, the mostcommon, uh, I think frustration
is the most common symptoms.
(13:13):
Because, uh, and then you cansee some, maybe in some kids
that they burst out in anger,or they throw things, and, uh,
And that's a symptom of that youare, probably are a weird one.
I would say that'sthe strongest one.
And that, and then you tella kid, Oh, you have to calm
down and they get punished inschool because they are angry.
(13:33):
Or maybe hits or slapsin the face or whatever.
But that's only the frustrationbecause they are not understood
in their way of thinking.
Frida Kabo (13:41):
Yeah.
If someone is feeling, Oh yeah,I feel a lot of frustration.
Where, where do yourecommend them to start?
How can they embracetheir weird a bit more?
Birgitta Granstrom (13:51):
At first, we need to spread the knowledge.
Weird and the weirdnessis actually something
to be proud of.
And you have to, so Theknowledge about it, it's not
a label, because still thereis, uh, parents can cry when
their kids get an ADHD label.
Instead of saying, Yee haw!It hasn't become better, but
(14:11):
it's still kind of a littlebit of that something wrong,
because they are define, andeven in the neurodiverse world,
they define this as something,um, There is something wrong,
that's something that needsto be cured, to be medicated,
et cetera, et cetera.
And we need to get away fromthat, and see, to be weird
(14:35):
is something that actuallyis good, and it's cool, and
it's fun, it's the cool kidon the blocks in the future.
And, uh, spread awareness,but if, and when you see it,
To take it seriously and say,oh, what if I belong, ask it
as an experiment, oh, whatif I am neurodiverse in one
(14:56):
way, if I am a weird one, ifI am different than others.
And start to, uh, read,uh, talk to people, I mean,
there are so much, ask,chat with T right now.
Yeah, I am like thisand this and this,
what do you think I am?
I mean, not for a go aheadto take a diagnose, but
increase the self awareness.
(15:18):
So, so, I mean, the bottomline, what would you do?
Increase the self awareness.
Learn more about yourself.
Keep on asking questionsand know if you ask
questions about yourself.
If you ever wonder if it'ssomething wrong with me, be
sure, it is, but it's not wrong.
It's something that'sreally weird, wonderful.
(15:38):
But if you have thatfeeling, I mean, otherwise
you wouldn't feel.
And the reason why you feelsomething is wrong is that
you are different than others.
And we are still in asociety that we judge
people as good and bad andright and wrong, blah blah.
So it's something to celebrate.
And now, I mean, the worldis changing and more and more
(16:00):
people want, then we havethose who want to be weird.
Yes.
It's, it's a myth.
Frida Kabo (16:06):
Yeah.
There's someone feeling,yeah, I'm weird, but I
can't, I can't show thator I can't, I'm afraid to.
To be that, do you haveanything to say to that?
Birgitta Granstrom (16:15):
It could be a good thing to actually don't
show your weirdness everywhere.
Because you need to beaware, you will be judged.
So you need to use your brain,because the weird ones have a,
they have a brilliant brain.
And be aware you needto use it strategically.
And because, I mean, I can show,if I go out, if I sometimes have
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to interact with the societyoutside my wildness life,
I am really good on playingthe game, so I know exactly
what I'm doing and sometimesI have to behave and I know
how ordinary people behave incertain situations, what they
say in certain situations,not what you feel like.
So you need to be controlistbecause sometimes you don't want
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to deal with, to be judged andmaybe be disappointed or think
that people see what you see.
I would recommend it.
Share your weirdness withpeople you really trust, that
see the best in you no matterwho you are, and, or, and
that could also be strangers.
I mean, that's the reason why Ihave created the web of weird,
(17:22):
the community for the weirdones, and I, we want to conquer
the entire world, we willbring in all the weird ones.
Because there you have a, asanctuary for the weird ones,
that you actually can just comeand join for a few minutes,
you haven't seen any of thepeople, or heard any of the
people, know them, but youstill say, okay, shit, I belong,
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there is others who thinklike me, and just to get that
confirmation, maybe just for afew minutes, you know, you can
start to walk your own path.
You can start to trust yourintuition because the weird
ones are smart enough.
They have gone through allthe thinking and analyze
themselves and they canfind the information.
(18:02):
So they don't need anStep one to seven, how
can you do the weirdest?
Most of the time, theyjust need to be confirmed
in their own thoughts.
Frida Kabo (18:11):
I love that.
So important to find like mindedpeople, especially when we doubt
ourselves, so seeing that weare feeling alone in the world.
In the world.
Yes.
And to see that, yeah.
Just like we do herewith the Success Summit,
like it's wonderful.
So to together and,and celebrate our, our
unique trait or uniquewitness or whatever it is.
(18:32):
So what, what do you thinkwould be the difference in
the world if more peopleembrace the witness?
I think we will have, uh,we will have more happy
Birgitta Granstrom (18:40):
people if we have the weird ones.
Because something with the weirdones is we love paradoxes, we.
Try to see the similaritiesin the differences.
We respect other people'sbelief system, even if we
don't want to go that way.
So that could be anunderstanding cause Right now
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the belief system in the world,no matter what, what kind of
religion, philosophy or whatit is, but to think that each
belief system think this isthe right way and to try to
drag in people and believewhat we believe do this.
And that's why we need tohave the books and regulations
and to tell them withlaws and norms and morals.
(19:22):
to follow just to keep themin that box because nothing
is really true it's somethingthat's created but if someone
feel have comfort in a beliefsystem really it's okay and
the weird ones will allowthey don't need necessarily to
change anything what the weirdones want Everyone should have
(19:42):
the right to be exactly whothey are and looking for ways
to, to get together and cocreate instead of competition.
So and with that, they couldalso in a short term, I mean, no
one would, uh, now this, I mean,this is a little bit of utopia
1500 years, it will change, butno one would ever go to a job.
(20:07):
don't like.
Because the weird ones, weare here for life experiences.
And how many people can wesee now who wake up in the
morning and don't reallywant to wake up because their
life is, they feel miserable.
I mean, for, for the weirdone, that's insane, insanity.
(20:28):
So, so that should it be andsome each and everyone should
find their own way and therewill be more happy people We
wouldn't know have any I knowI wouldn't say no and any but
less mental illness less sadsad people and more satisfied,
happy, more creations.
Frida Kabo (20:49):
Yeah, definitely.
And that's, that'show I met you as well.
Like I started askingwhat, is this it?
Is this how lifeis supposed to be?
And all of those deeperquestions that I didn't
feel satisfied in my life.
And then I met you and like,wow, it can be so much more.
And yeah, when I really stepinto who I am and do these kinds
(21:10):
of things that I'm passionateabout, I can contribute more.
It makes me more satisfied,but also I help other people.
Birgitta Granstrom (21:17):
Exactly.
Oh, I, I got goosebumpswhen you remind me of
exactly that experience.
And so many people have it.
Either they, the fiery lifeis almost, uh, it's gone.
Danger is almost not left.
And they reallywonder, is this it?
And it's not.
But still, we believe it isa truth that you need to work
from nine to five and certain.
(21:40):
We don't, theydon't even question.
We have to do this.
We have to live in this way.
And you see, no, you don't.
There, you have choices, butyou need to have support, you
need to have, yeah, I mean,that would be the first thing,
everyone, everyone, no oneshould go hungry, I mean, there
are so stupid, the resources,the, everything is here to
(22:01):
feed everyone, and still weaccept that people don't have
food, it's kind of, oh, yeah.
We want to help and we do stuff,but it's kind of an acceptance.
It's the same with war.
It's okay to spend moneyto, to kill each other.
I mean, stupidity.
So those things wouldchange for sure with,
uh, with the weird ones.
And that's why we start to,and what you are doing with
(22:23):
your sensitive stuff, that'swe increased awareness and
we have more people, wegave more people confidence
and not the people in thelinear way or the linear way.
Establishment of society, butpeople who maybe are underdogs
or whatever, that have thosethoughts and you find lots
of those, the weird ones.
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And when the weirdones stop accepting
labels as a limitation,we will see a change.
And it will be shaky, especiallyfor the establishment.
Because when the, no, noneof the old rules is imported
anymore, that's scary.
(23:05):
So we need to be prepared toeven help the transitions for
the, for the ordinary people andmake it comfortable for them.
So we need to havethat in mind too.
Frida Kabo (23:16):
Yeah, it's a really interesting time to
be alive, to see, and to be apart of that transformation.
And you also have a testto, on your page to see
if you're weird enough.
Can you tell us more about that?
Yes,
Birgitta Granstrom (23:28):
absolutely.
And I was just want to sayit with now the change in the
world and with the technologyand the AI right now.
AI is here to, uh,facilitate, the weirdness.
Because now it means thatmore people have access to
knowledge that was just aprivilege for authorities
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and knowledge has been power.
I mean the pen and thepower I don't know the,
but you know what I mean.
And suddenly everyone can getthis knowledge and they can
get Therapist, or the coach,or the, I mean, whatever they
want to be if they have theconfidence in themselves.
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And that's why it'sgoing to change.
AI is a tool for this changeand for the weird, for the
weird ones to move forwardand take a place in the world.
And that's, I think that's whyI protect the AI as my baby.
When the ordinary peoplesay, oh, this is strange.
We need to regulate and this isa danger and that really upsets
(24:31):
me Is that people is complainingabout AI and the fear of AI
Instead of see what they areafraid of that's going to happen
in the future that AI will bein control and Maybe kill us or
whatever they are saying That'sexactly what's happening now.
(24:52):
That's what people is doing now.
You are misinformation, duh.
The war and control and thepower, those are the issues we
have to deal with here insteadof blaming the future of AI.
It's another, uh, othertopic I just have to mention
so we can, uh, talk aboutthat, but to do the changes
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in the individuals now, thenwe, there is no fear of AI.
Frida Kabo (25:18):
And just to clarify, AI, you mean
artificial intelligence?
Birgit (25:20):
Artificial intelligence.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
It's good, you see, weneed to be clarified.
Yeah.
So it's interesting.
We have all the possibilities,and especially for the weird
ones, because we can do theintake of the information and
use what's, use it for goodand spend, instead of spending
time on an energy on fear.
(25:41):
And for what it might can do.
Use it for the good.
Frida Kabo (25:45):
I love that.
And as always, you, you're wayahead in the future already.
So now tell us a bitmore about your weird
Birgitta Granstrom (25:54):
aesthetic.
Okay, so there is a weird test.
Do you belong to the weird ones?
And you can take a test.
And this is, I wouldsay, call it a quiz,
because it's not a test.
That's what's right and wrong.
But this is an educationaljourney about yourself.
So it, I think it's maybe almost80 questions or statements.
(26:18):
And you only haveto see, is this you?
Is this not you?
Or do you recognize you fully?
And, uh, you will increaseyour awareness, so it's
exciting to do the test.
And in the end we will have,uh, you will get your result.
You can even be this weird one.
But there is also an, uh,that I really want to protect
(26:40):
too, and that's what Icall the bridge builders.
And those are, you have thepart of the weird ones, but you
also have a part of the, whatwe call the seekers or average
people and the British pillars.
We need the Britishpillars because you
really are those, uh.
Who make the words,put words together.
(27:02):
So, or, you are a seeker.
And, uh, and a seeker withthat means you have an
ambition to learn, to get toknow you more about yourself.
And you can develop yourconsciousness, your awareness,
and you will probably developto uh, to a bridge builder.
Because there is, but you needto have the ambition I want
(27:23):
to know more about myself, andI, prepared to do the work.
Those who is not doing the testor think, oh, this is, I don't,
they don't even are a seeker.
We put them in thedot point, kind of.
Frida Kabo (27:36):
Yeah, I remember, I know that I was disappointed
the first time I did the testbecause I was not a weird one.
I was a bridge builder and Ithink that actually a lot of
sensitives are bridge builders.
Birgitta Granstrom (27:50):
And the thing, what we have
to learn, the weird one,sometimes we are, as you
said, too much in the future.
We have those big, and wehave so many ideas, but it's
not always that we can bringthem down and really manifest
them and give it to the world,because we lack that power.
Capacities or skills sometimes.
So together with the bridgebuilders who understand
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the, you know, now Iget goosebumps again.
So we have a bridge builderwho understands what we mean,
but they also understandhow do we do, how can we
communicate to this physicalworld and the planet, and how
can we make this to happen.
So be together with a bridgebuilder, that's perfect.
And for the bridge builder,You'll find you can utilize this
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weird, crazy side and you feelmore comfortable with yourself
and you can accomplish so muchmore because you get inspired
with the, with the weird ones.
And the weird ones love toembrace the bridge builders
and, I mean, empowerthem to be more weird.
So it's an, um, it's aperfect relationship and
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even if it's a physical humanto human, I think the best
relationship is with one weirdone and a bridge builder.
Frida Kabo (29:00):
I love that.
Yeah.
And it also shows that it'sso, so important to really
embrace our differences.
Yes.
You really see, yeah,it's okay to be weird.
Yeah.
It's okay to be bridge builder.
It's okay to be seeker.
As you say, it'snot right or wrong.
It's just that's wherewe are right now.
Birgitta Granstrom (29:16):
No, not to try to be something else, but
really figure out who am I?
Where am I?
And if you can find some, okay,I belong more here and accept
that and be proud of that.
Then we will have, we haveso much more fun together.
So then we don't have toreject anyone, actually, if
we just have an understandingin both ways or, or, or ways.
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Yeah.
Frida Kabo (29:42):
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, this is theSensitive Success Summit.
Tell us why, why did youwant to join and celebrate
sensitivity with us?
Because
Birgitta Granstrom (29:51):
I think what you are doing now, Freya,
as I told you before, I'm soimpressed and to celebrate.
Freya.
Sensitiveness You have founda world that people recognize
themselves and it's okay to beand if I can contribute to a
few people who just embrace whothey are and say, that's okay.
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I am proud of being there.
I think that's, this is acommunity and as you say,
I think you are a lots ofbridge builders among the
sensitive since you were theleader in, of this crowd and
we need the bridge builders.
Because that was, I'mtalking to, to do we advanced
in the communities and.
As I see the world withthose magnetic clusters of
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those who is contributing toa better world, we have the
same big vision somewhere.
And if we can go get togetherand connect together, I
think it's just wonderful.
So I'm super proud to be here.
I'm really, I'm honoredthat you asked me, Frida.
Frida Kabo (30:49):
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm really excited.
Do you have the guts tolet the weird ones in
to your special space?
Of course.
Always welcome.
No, I really love thatyou're here and I think
it's so important.
Well, I, I really loveyour point of view of the
world and also it's alwaysinteresting to listen to, to
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you because you have alwaysthings that makes me go,
Birgitta Granstrom (31:12):
aha, yeah.
Yeah.
That's the thing, thisweirdness, and I love to
speak to people who, yes,when you can see their face
and that, I mean, that's anempowerment for the weird ones
brain to be even more weird.
So that's, I mean, that'sa really, I feel super
motivated and energizedwhen I'm talking to you.
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Because you are bringing outthe best of my weirdness.
That's how I feel.
That's why I think it'sso great to be here.
Frida Kabo (31:41):
Oh, wonderful.
Is there anything elsethat you would like to say
to those sensitives thatare listening to this?
I would say try to be even
Birgitta Granst (31:49):
more sensitive.
If you expand your sensitive,sensitiveness with a hundred,
who would you be then?
I mean, what other stuffdo you have there and what
would you release and whatis it that you can give
to the, give to the world?
I, I, yeah, I think sobecause the, now it's more,
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it's like sensitive orit's hard, it's a heavy.
No.
There is a light inthe sensitiveness.
It's a lightness.
You can fly.
It's an angel's energiesand, uh, yeah, movement.
Great movement insteadof sit still and fly.
I think I am so sensitiveby bringing other
people's energy, move.
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I think there was a thoughtright now, I think move,
move, because then nothingcan get stuck in you.
Frida Kabo (32:40):
Love that.
Thank you so, so much.
I know.
Yeah.
Thank you for sharingyour wisdom with us.
Thank you for being soweird and encouraging the
weirdness in the world.
I love it.
And yeah, thank you forthe work that you do.
It's amazing.
Been wonderful, Frida.
Thank you for listeningto Sensitive Success.
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It's what we make of it.
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sensitive success your way.
Hi, it's Frida Kabo.
I've had some greatconversations with
awesome people, and Ithought why keep the
conversations in the archive.
I want to share them with you.
So here is one of theconversations from the
Sensitive Success Summit.
Enjoy.
Welcome to the SensitiveSuccess Podcast, where we
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explore the unique challengesand opportunities that
comes with being a sensitivechangemaker in today's world.
I'm your host, Frida Kabo,and I have spent the last
decade recreating my life.
I moved from Sweden to NewZealand and now live in the
beautiful bush with my husbandand two kids, homeschooling and
creating a life and businessthat works for me with the
help of my sensitivity andsupport others to do the same.
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I'm excited to shareconversations with experts,
thought leaders, and fellowsensitive people who also
see the world throughthe lens of sensitivity.
Thank you so much for beinghere, because it means that
you're creating sensitivesuccess too, which is
precisely what the world needs.
Let's get started.
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Many of us sensitives can feelweird and like we don't fit in.
This can be seen as somethingnegative, but in this
conversation we're going totalk about being weird and how
we can embrace it even more.
And today's expert is reallyweird, and proud of it.
Birgitta Gronström has devotedher life to understanding
human behavior and decodingthe meaning of life.
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She is a pioneer in the coachingindustry, an author, and an
early adopter of generative AI.
Birgitta spent over twodecades in the corporate world
teaching personal development,leadership, and coaching.
She was a trailblazer inthe coaching industry in
Sweden, founding the first ICFaccredited coaching training
program, and served as presidentof ICF Nordic in Stockholm.
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Then she left all thatto become a digital nomad
before it was a thing.
And now she lives in thewilderness in sunny California.
Birgitta's lifelong quest toanswer the profound questions.
Why do people behave as they doand what is the meaning of life?
Let her to develop an innovativeapproach to life and human
interaction, the Life SpiderSystem, a revolution in
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psychology and life philosophy.
It challenges old belief systemsand provokes established social
structures, leading us torethink how we live our lives.
And how we interact withthe world around us.
And I have the honor ofbeing one of the VEGETA
Certified Lifespider Coaches.
And I just love that youare in, wanted to join
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this conversation with me.
Welcome, VEGETA.
Birgitta Granstrom (02:37):
Thank you.
And I'm so happy to be here.
And I'm proud to have youas one of the Life Certified
Lifespider Coaches, Frida.
So it's been very exciting.
Yeah.
Frida Kabo (02:46):
I am so excited for this conversation because
as always when I talk toyou, I never know what,
where it's going to go.
But yeah, start by tellingus a bit more about yourself
and why you think it'simportant to embrace our weird.
Okay.
So I think, uh, not
Birgitta Granstrom (03:02):
talk that much about myself, uh, except
that, you know, everyone whois weird or the sensitive.
You know from the beginningthat there is something
you are different, but ittakes you a while before you
understand that, Oh, I'm notthinking as, or other people
is not thinking as I am.
So that's the biggestdifference, and then it starts
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to question, and uh, the mostof the weird ones we ask why
and how we want to have the deepanswers, and then the common
traits among all the weird ones.
And maybe, I should start withwhen you describe the weirdness.
I mean, if we go back and reallycheck on the word weird, so it
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means it's a Germanic 1400s,1200s, uh, word that from
the beginning if you check onthe dictionary it means have
the power to control destiny.
Okay, so I just want to startto say that because we need to
have another approach to weird.
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Because weird means thatyou are allowed to be
exactly who you are.
And when you are unique and youare sticking out, you are not
fitting into the, to the system.
And especially now whenwe are in a huge shift
in the society, in theworld, the technology, and
everything is moving so fast.
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And to me, the weird ones,and the weird ones, I have
also choose to use the wordweird because it includes
all people maybe who havea label, who are different.
Because most are sensitive.
I mean, Ibring in the sensitive in
the, in the weird ones too.
Because most of the time,one label is not enough.
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You maybe have the ADHD,you are autistic, you are
sensitive, and whatever.
But you have, you area leader of everything.
Yeah.
I love what you're saying aboutbeing weird and, and the, the
deeper meaning of the word andalso that you include everyone.
It's, uh, with, yeah.
Neurodiversity, I guess is, is.
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Yeah.
And you, I, I would, yeah, andI would define the weird ones,
they are the highly intelligent,you are sensitive because
you have a huge intuition.
I mean, you see throughpeople, you smell a lie
for hundreds of miles.
You know more about people thanthey know about themselves.
You are processing informationdifferently because you
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can receive so much withall your senses and you
have a processing machine.
That means that.
All, you can pick up informationand you can put them together
in new constellations.
So that's why youalso are so creative.
And the weird ones alsois looking for solutions.
And when they see a problem,many other people haven't
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seen yet, the weird oneis there with a solution.
And this can be really confusingfor people around them, and,
uh, and that's why they aretrying to fit them into a box
and say, Okay, you are abnormal,you need a label, you are ADHD,
you need to sit still, and youcannot communicate correctly,
because, and weird one, youcan skip this middle part.
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I mean, ordinary people isthinking, linear thinking, and
they need to take one step at atime, otherwise they get lost.
But for a weird one, they seethe problem and here is the
solution and everything inbetween is not interesting.
And so, so we communicateand that's also when you meet
other weird ones, you have another type of conversation.
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You dive right into what'simportant and you can
leave the rest behind.
And that's why you feelanother weird one and then
you, you feel like you haveknown them like forever.
And you are in a deepconversation immediately.
So there is special traits,and those traits I, uh,
mention right now, youcan find them in the ADHD.
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There are special traits,and it's a genius trait,
but the society try to tellyou that you are not normal.
You need to adapt, you needto sit still, you need to be
average, you need to focus.
And that's why it's socomplicated for neurodiverse.
Even the neurodiversegenre right now has
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started to become a box.
And that's why theweird ones is open up.
It's not a box.
It's a self imposed descriptionof who you are that much wider.
Frida Kabo (07:30):
I can sometimes feel like a sensitive that
I'm like a social chameleonwhere I Feel like I, yeah,
I can fit in anywhere, butI don't belong anywhere.
Birgitta Granstrom (07:43):
That got me goosebumps, because that
exactly, and that's the problemthe weird ones have, that
they can't fit in everywhere,because they're such a brilliant
observer, and when weirdones take a room, they are
scanning the energy, they arelooking at the people, they
are listening to conversation.
And then they decide, okay, soin this place, I can be this
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person, but they don't reallyfeel below because they're so
good to play role to fit in.
And just because they can,and they care so much about
other people, they don't wantto make others uncomfortable.
So it's easier to adapt.
And that's in the long run, ifyou just keep on, uh, adaptive.
That's why you also haveso many mental issues among
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the weird ones, because youare holding yourself back.
Frida Kabo (08:30):
It feels like there's a, on the one hand,
you try to fit in in society,like everyone should be normal
and the same, and the boxes,you know, But also, on the
other hand, everyone should beunique and you should be, be
weird and should take place.
So do you think thateveryone is weird, really?
And we're justsuppressing it or?
Birgitta Granstrom (08:53):
No, I think there is a difference.
And I think that's important.
So every singleindividual are unique.
with, uh, with your experience,your traits, your everything.
So everyone absolutely unique,but not everyone is weird.
So it's a really, it'san important distinguish
because something you say,Oh, everybody's unique.
Yes, you are, but you arenot weird because there are
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kind of a special species.
I mean, you may be, you havethe legs and the arms and
the head and the, but thereis a different species.
I mean, it's a dog and agoat and a horse and a cow.
Okay.
I mean, it's still justanimals on four, four legs,
and each individuals inbetween, yeah, you are unique.
So they're still, I mean,the, what you can call it,
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normies, the average people.
They should still, theyshould strive for being unique
and have, because they alsohave trouble to adapting.
So we have similars, maybeissues and problems, but
it's two different species.
And it's the approach,how we solve problems and
how we get help to empowerourselves are different.
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Totally different.
And that's also why it's sohard for a weird one one day.
And they get maybe adepression or they get in
those dark, dark holes to finda therapist or a psychology
or a coach that can approachthem and understand them.
In their awareness,it's really hard.
So most of the time the weirdones end up and they are sitting
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with a therapist and they feelsorry for the therapist and
they give them what they want.
They are also, because theyknow what question they want.
And they're like, Then they say,thank you, I'll see you next
week and they never go back.
Frida Kabo (10:33):
Okay.
Yeah, it's interesting becauseI read an article about kids
with ADHD, or on the autismspectrum I think it was, and
they had done the whisperinggame, you know, where you sit
in a circle and you whisper.
And they had split the groupsin, into, uh, not autistic
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and autistic, and both thosegroups understood each other.
But it was when you mixedthe people that they didn't
understand each other andhad more problems than when
they were in separate groups.
Birgitta (11:06):
That was interesting.
I am really interested.
You can give me more ofthat so I can read into it.
And I think that's the thingwhat you are saying now, because
I can see even the neurodiversebranches or what you call it.
They are trying to say, okay,we need to adapt the ADHD or all
those with the neurodiverse needto be helped and get everything.
But that's not righteither, because we
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need to do it both way.
Because even those whoare weird, the weird ones
need to understand whatthose average people need.
And you, even if you areweird, you can adapt, you,
you can communicate, youcan learn certain skills.
But the difference isright now, it's different.
If you learn and you know,okay, now I am playing the game.
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I do this because I have to,to facilitate the communication
with those other people.
And understand, an averageperson cannot understand
you because they don't havethat level of awareness.
And you cannot be mad orfrustrated or angry and
disappointed or someone whodon't know how to do it.
I mean, you can't blamea baby for not walking.
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Okay.
That's kind of the same.
So I think we have to open upthe discussion exactly what
they did in this experimentand to communicate it both
way and respect and acceptthe different way of being,
but not judge it as good, asbad or whatever, because we
can still, we need each other.
And there where we have thealso the bridge builder in
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the stuff that we really needto communicate both words.
Frida Kabo (12:41):
Yeah, I totally agree.
So how do we know ifwe're hiding our weird?
How do we know if we are weird?
If we are hiding, if we reallyshould embrace our weird?
Birgitta Granstrom (12:51):
I would say the most common symptom, the
hiding within us is frustration.
It's frustration, and it couldbe sadness, and confusion.
That's the most, the mostcommon, uh, I think frustration
is the most common symptoms.
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Because, uh, and then you cansee some, maybe in some kids
that they burst out in anger,or they throw things, and, uh,
And that's a symptom of that youare, probably are a weird one.
I would say that'sthe strongest one.
And that, and then you tella kid, Oh, you have to calm
down and they get punished inschool because they are angry.
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Or maybe hits or slapsin the face or whatever.
But that's only the frustrationbecause they are not understood
in their way of thinking.
Frida Kabo (13:41):
Yeah.
If someone is feeling, Oh yeah,I feel a lot of frustration.
Where, where do yourecommend them to start?
How can they embracetheir weird a bit more?
Birgitta Granstrom (13:51):
At first, we need to spread the knowledge.
Weird and the weirdnessis actually something
to be proud of.
And you have to, so Theknowledge about it, it's not
a label, because still thereis, uh, parents can cry when
their kids get an ADHD label.
Instead of saying, Yee haw!It hasn't become better, but
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it's still kind of a littlebit of that something wrong,
because they are define, andeven in the neurodiverse world,
they define this as something,um, There is something wrong,
that's something that needsto be cured, to be medicated,
et cetera, et cetera.
And we need to get away fromthat, and see, to be weird
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is something that actuallyis good, and it's cool, and
it's fun, it's the cool kidon the blocks in the future.
And, uh, spread awareness,but if, and when you see it,
To take it seriously and say,oh, what if I belong, ask it
as an experiment, oh, whatif I am neurodiverse in one
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way, if I am a weird one, ifI am different than others.
And start to, uh, read,uh, talk to people, I mean,
there are so much, ask,chat with T right now.
Yeah, I am like thisand this and this,
what do you think I am?
I mean, not for a go aheadto take a diagnose, but
increase the self awareness.
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So, so, I mean, the bottomline, what would you do?
Increase the self awareness.
Learn more about yourself.
Keep on asking questionsand know if you ask
questions about yourself.
If you ever wonder if it'ssomething wrong with me, be
sure, it is, but it's not wrong.
It's something that'sreally weird, wonderful.
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But if you have thatfeeling, I mean, otherwise
you wouldn't feel.
And the reason why you feelsomething is wrong is that
you are different than others.
And we are still in asociety that we judge
people as good and bad andright and wrong, blah blah.
So it's something to celebrate.
And now, I mean, the worldis changing and more and more
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people want, then we havethose who want to be weird.
Yes.
It's, it's a myth.
Frida Kabo (16:06):
Yeah.
There's someone feeling,yeah, I'm weird, but I
can't, I can't show thator I can't, I'm afraid to.
To be that, do you haveanything to say to that?
Birgitta Granstrom (16:15):
It could be a good thing to actually don't
show your weirdness everywhere.
Because you need to beaware, you will be judged.
So you need to use your brain,because the weird ones have a,
they have a brilliant brain.
And be aware you needto use it strategically.
And because, I mean, I can show,if I go out, if I sometimes have
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to interact with the societyoutside my wildness life,
I am really good on playingthe game, so I know exactly
what I'm doing and sometimesI have to behave and I know
how ordinary people behave incertain situations, what they
say in certain situations,not what you feel like.
So you need to be controlistbecause sometimes you don't want
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to deal with, to be judged andmaybe be disappointed or think
that people see what you see.
I would recommend it.
Share your weirdness withpeople you really trust, that
see the best in you no matterwho you are, and, or, and
that could also be strangers.
I mean, that's the reason why Ihave created the web of weird,
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the community for the weirdones, and I, we want to conquer
the entire world, we willbring in all the weird ones.
Because there you have a, asanctuary for the weird ones,
that you actually can just comeand join for a few minutes,
you haven't seen any of thepeople, or heard any of the
people, know them, but youstill say, okay, shit, I belong,
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there is others who thinklike me, and just to get that
confirmation, maybe just for afew minutes, you know, you can
start to walk your own path.
You can start to trust yourintuition because the weird
ones are smart enough.
They have gone through allthe thinking and analyze
themselves and they canfind the information.
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So they don't need anStep one to seven, how
can you do the weirdest?
Most of the time, theyjust need to be confirmed
in their own thoughts.
Frida Kabo (18:11):
I love that.
So important to find like mindedpeople, especially when we doubt
ourselves, so seeing that weare feeling alone in the world.
In the world.
Yes.
And to see that, yeah.
Just like we do herewith the Success Summit,
like it's wonderful.
So to together and,and celebrate our, our
unique trait or uniquewitness or whatever it is.
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So what, what do you thinkwould be the difference in
the world if more peopleembrace the witness?
I think we will have, uh,we will have more happy
Birgitta Granstrom (18:40):
people if we have the weird ones.
Because something with the weirdones is we love paradoxes, we.
Try to see the similaritiesin the differences.
We respect other people'sbelief system, even if we
don't want to go that way.
So that could be anunderstanding cause Right now
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the belief system in the world,no matter what, what kind of
religion, philosophy or whatit is, but to think that each
belief system think this isthe right way and to try to
drag in people and believewhat we believe do this.
And that's why we need tohave the books and regulations
and to tell them withlaws and norms and morals.
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to follow just to keep themin that box because nothing
is really true it's somethingthat's created but if someone
feel have comfort in a beliefsystem really it's okay and
the weird ones will allowthey don't need necessarily to
change anything what the weirdones want Everyone should have
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the right to be exactly whothey are and looking for ways
to, to get together and cocreate instead of competition.
So and with that, they couldalso in a short term, I mean, no
one would, uh, now this, I mean,this is a little bit of utopia
1500 years, it will change, butno one would ever go to a job.
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don't like.
Because the weird ones, weare here for life experiences.
And how many people can wesee now who wake up in the
morning and don't reallywant to wake up because their
life is, they feel miserable.
I mean, for, for the weirdone, that's insane, insanity.
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So, so that should it be andsome each and everyone should
find their own way and therewill be more happy people We
wouldn't know have any I knowI wouldn't say no and any but
less mental illness less sadsad people and more satisfied,
happy, more creations.
Frida Kabo (20:49):
Yeah, definitely.
And that's, that'show I met you as well.
Like I started askingwhat, is this it?
Is this how lifeis supposed to be?
And all of those deeperquestions that I didn't
feel satisfied in my life.
And then I met you and like,wow, it can be so much more.
And yeah, when I really stepinto who I am and do these kinds
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of things that I'm passionateabout, I can contribute more.
It makes me more satisfied,but also I help other people.
Birgitta Granstrom (21:17):
Exactly.
Oh, I, I got goosebumpswhen you remind me of
exactly that experience.
And so many people have it.
Either they, the fiery lifeis almost, uh, it's gone.
Danger is almost not left.
And they reallywonder, is this it?
And it's not.
But still, we believe it isa truth that you need to work
from nine to five and certain.
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We don't, theydon't even question.
We have to do this.
We have to live in this way.
And you see, no, you don't.
There, you have choices, butyou need to have support, you
need to have, yeah, I mean,that would be the first thing,
everyone, everyone, no oneshould go hungry, I mean, there
are so stupid, the resources,the, everything is here to
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feed everyone, and still weaccept that people don't have
food, it's kind of, oh, yeah.
We want to help and we do stuff,but it's kind of an acceptance.
It's the same with war.
It's okay to spend moneyto, to kill each other.
I mean, stupidity.
So those things wouldchange for sure with,
uh, with the weird ones.
And that's why we start to,and what you are doing with
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your sensitive stuff, that'swe increased awareness and
we have more people, wegave more people confidence
and not the people in thelinear way or the linear way.
Establishment of society, butpeople who maybe are underdogs
or whatever, that have thosethoughts and you find lots
of those, the weird ones.
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And when the weirdones stop accepting
labels as a limitation,we will see a change.
And it will be shaky, especiallyfor the establishment.
Because when the, no, noneof the old rules is imported
anymore, that's scary.
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So we need to be prepared toeven help the transitions for
the, for the ordinary people andmake it comfortable for them.
So we need to havethat in mind too.
Frida Kabo (23:16):
Yeah, it's a really interesting time to
be alive, to see, and to be apart of that transformation.
And you also have a testto, on your page to see
if you're weird enough.
Can you tell us more about that?
Yes,
Birgitta Granstrom (23:28):
absolutely.
And I was just want to sayit with now the change in the
world and with the technologyand the AI right now.
AI is here to, uh,facilitate, the weirdness.
Because now it means thatmore people have access to
knowledge that was just aprivilege for authorities
(23:50):
and knowledge has been power.
I mean the pen and thepower I don't know the,
but you know what I mean.
And suddenly everyone can getthis knowledge and they can
get Therapist, or the coach,or the, I mean, whatever they
want to be if they have theconfidence in themselves.
(24:10):
And that's why it'sgoing to change.
AI is a tool for this changeand for the weird, for the
weird ones to move forwardand take a place in the world.
And that's, I think that's whyI protect the AI as my baby.
When the ordinary peoplesay, oh, this is strange.
We need to regulate and this isa danger and that really upsets
(24:31):
me Is that people is complainingabout AI and the fear of AI
Instead of see what they areafraid of that's going to happen
in the future that AI will bein control and Maybe kill us or
whatever they are saying That'sexactly what's happening now.
(24:52):
That's what people is doing now.
You are misinformation, duh.
The war and control and thepower, those are the issues we
have to deal with here insteadof blaming the future of AI.
It's another, uh, othertopic I just have to mention
so we can, uh, talk aboutthat, but to do the changes
(25:13):
in the individuals now, thenwe, there is no fear of AI.
Frida Kabo (25:18):
And just to clarify, AI, you mean
artificial intelligence?
Birgit (25:20):
Artificial intelligence.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
It's good, you see, weneed to be clarified.
Yeah.
So it's interesting.
We have all the possibilities,and especially for the weird
ones, because we can do theintake of the information and
use what's, use it for goodand spend, instead of spending
time on an energy on fear.
(25:41):
And for what it might can do.
Use it for the good.
Frida Kabo (25:45):
I love that.
And as always, you, you're wayahead in the future already.
So now tell us a bitmore about your weird
Birgitta Granstrom (25:54):
aesthetic.
Okay, so there is a weird test.
Do you belong to the weird ones?
And you can take a test.
And this is, I wouldsay, call it a quiz,
because it's not a test.
That's what's right and wrong.
But this is an educationaljourney about yourself.
So it, I think it's maybe almost80 questions or statements.
(26:18):
And you only haveto see, is this you?
Is this not you?
Or do you recognize you fully?
And, uh, you will increaseyour awareness, so it's
exciting to do the test.
And in the end we will have,uh, you will get your result.
You can even be this weird one.
But there is also an, uh,that I really want to protect
(26:40):
too, and that's what Icall the bridge builders.
And those are, you have thepart of the weird ones, but you
also have a part of the, whatwe call the seekers or average
people and the British pillars.
We need the Britishpillars because you
really are those, uh.
Who make the words,put words together.
(27:02):
So, or, you are a seeker.
And, uh, and a seeker withthat means you have an
ambition to learn, to get toknow you more about yourself.
And you can develop yourconsciousness, your awareness,
and you will probably developto uh, to a bridge builder.
Because there is, but you needto have the ambition I want
(27:23):
to know more about myself, andI, prepared to do the work.
Those who is not doing the testor think, oh, this is, I don't,
they don't even are a seeker.
We put them in thedot point, kind of.
Frida Kabo (27:36):
Yeah, I remember, I know that I was disappointed
the first time I did the testbecause I was not a weird one.
I was a bridge builder and Ithink that actually a lot of
sensitives are bridge builders.
Birgitta Granstrom (27:50):
And the thing, what we have
to learn, the weird one,sometimes we are, as you
said, too much in the future.
We have those big, and wehave so many ideas, but it's
not always that we can bringthem down and really manifest
them and give it to the world,because we lack that power.
Capacities or skills sometimes.
So together with the bridgebuilders who understand
(28:13):
the, you know, now Iget goosebumps again.
So we have a bridge builderwho understands what we mean,
but they also understandhow do we do, how can we
communicate to this physicalworld and the planet, and how
can we make this to happen.
So be together with a bridgebuilder, that's perfect.
And for the bridge builder,You'll find you can utilize this
(28:33):
weird, crazy side and you feelmore comfortable with yourself
and you can accomplish so muchmore because you get inspired
with the, with the weird ones.
And the weird ones love toembrace the bridge builders
and, I mean, empowerthem to be more weird.
So it's an, um, it's aperfect relationship and
(28:54):
even if it's a physical humanto human, I think the best
relationship is with one weirdone and a bridge builder.
Frida Kabo (29:00):
I love that.
Yeah.
And it also shows that it'sso, so important to really
embrace our differences.
Yes.
You really see, yeah,it's okay to be weird.
Yeah.
It's okay to be bridge builder.
It's okay to be seeker.
As you say, it'snot right or wrong.
It's just that's wherewe are right now.
Birgitta Granstrom (29:16):
No, not to try to be something else, but
really figure out who am I?
Where am I?
And if you can find some, okay,I belong more here and accept
that and be proud of that.
Then we will have, we haveso much more fun together.
So then we don't have toreject anyone, actually, if
we just have an understandingin both ways or, or, or ways.
(29:41):
Yeah.
Frida Kabo (29:42):
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, this is theSensitive Success Summit.
Tell us why, why did youwant to join and celebrate
sensitivity with us?
Because
Birgitta Granstrom (29:51):
I think what you are doing now, Freya,
as I told you before, I'm soimpressed and to celebrate.
Freya.
Sensitiveness You have founda world that people recognize
themselves and it's okay to beand if I can contribute to a
few people who just embrace whothey are and say, that's okay.
(30:12):
I am proud of being there.
I think that's, this is acommunity and as you say,
I think you are a lots ofbridge builders among the
sensitive since you were theleader in, of this crowd and
we need the bridge builders.
Because that was, I'mtalking to, to do we advanced
in the communities and.
As I see the world withthose magnetic clusters of
(30:34):
those who is contributing toa better world, we have the
same big vision somewhere.
And if we can go get togetherand connect together, I
think it's just wonderful.
So I'm super proud to be here.
I'm really, I'm honoredthat you asked me, Frida.
Frida Kabo (30:49):
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm really excited.
Do you have the guts tolet the weird ones in
to your special space?
Of course.
Always welcome.
No, I really love thatyou're here and I think
it's so important.
Well, I, I really loveyour point of view of the
world and also it's alwaysinteresting to listen to, to
(31:09):
you because you have alwaysthings that makes me go,
Birgitta Granstrom (31:12):
aha, yeah.
Yeah.
That's the thing, thisweirdness, and I love to
speak to people who, yes,when you can see their face
and that, I mean, that's anempowerment for the weird ones
brain to be even more weird.
So that's, I mean, that'sa really, I feel super
motivated and energizedwhen I'm talking to you.
(31:33):
Because you are bringing outthe best of my weirdness.
That's how I feel.
That's why I think it'sso great to be here.
Frida Kabo (31:41):
Oh, wonderful.
Is there anything elsethat you would like to say
to those sensitives thatare listening to this?
I would say try to be even
Birgitta Granst (31:49):
more sensitive.
If you expand your sensitive,sensitiveness with a hundred,
who would you be then?
I mean, what other stuffdo you have there and what
would you release and whatis it that you can give
to the, give to the world?
I, I, yeah, I think sobecause the, now it's more,
(32:12):
it's like sensitive orit's hard, it's a heavy.
No.
There is a light inthe sensitiveness.
It's a lightness.
You can fly.
It's an angel's energiesand, uh, yeah, movement.
Great movement insteadof sit still and fly.
I think I am so sensitiveby bringing other
people's energy, move.
(32:33):
I think there was a thoughtright now, I think move,
move, because then nothingcan get stuck in you.
Frida Kabo (32:40):
Love that.
Thank you so, so much.
I know.
Yeah.
Thank you for sharingyour wisdom with us.
Thank you for being soweird and encouraging the
weirdness in the world.
I love it.
And yeah, thank you forthe work that you do.
It's amazing.
Been wonderful, Frida.
Thank you for listeningto Sensitive Success.
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And remember, sensitivityis neither good or bad.
It's what we make of it.
Embrace your sensitivityand use it to create
sensitive success your way.
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