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May 16, 2024 13 mins

Sometimes, the straight path to healing is by getting rid of the grind and letting go of everything on your plate. In this episode, Fr. Jim Swarthout sits down with Bob Bisanz, an alcoholic who got sober in 1967 through the power of surrender. Together, they discuss how the retreat center in Wyzetta perfectly combines the 12-step recovery program and a Christ-centered approach to healing. Bob talks about serving others while recovering by eliminating all your internal baggage and opening up to the spiritual guidance of God.



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