Olympic Medalist Yared Nuguse on Racing Along Fifth Avenue

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Yared Nuguse (00:00):
The whole thing, it feels like a general fog over
it, but it's like there's these moments. And there's another
moment where I'm just like, "Oh, I can do more." And
I think I have another surge where I almost get to
silver, but I didn't quite make it. But I still felt
like that was a race where I left everything out there and
was really happy about that.

Rob Simmelkjaer (00:21):
Hey everybody, and welcome to Set the Pace, the official
podcast of New York Roadrunners, presented by Peloton. I'm your
host and the CEO of New York Roadrunners, Rob Simmelkjaer. And
I am pleased to be joined in person with a
live studio audience here at the New York Roadrunners Run

(00:42):
Center featuring the New Balance Run Hub. And so that
means I get to be in the same room as
my amazing, talented and lovely co- host, Becs Gentry from
Peloton. Hello Becs.

Becs Gentry (00:55):
Hi. Hi everyone. It is so wonderful to be here.
I love these in- person events. I missed one. I
missed almost previous one-

Yes.

as well.

You were laid up, but you feeling better now, right?

She's out of the boot.

You're moving great. You look great. So, things are going well?

Running around again, yes.

Oh, we like that.

Feet you, anyone who's had an injury knows what I mean. Frustrated.

It's kind of important for you, because if I get
an injury, that stinks from me. I'm running races and
trying to run, as you know, Chicago Marathon, but I'm
doing that for fun. I mean, I work in running,
but running isn't actually my job, thank God, by the
way, that it's not my actual job. But in your
case, you have to be able to run. So, this is no joke when you get an injury.

Yeah, yeah. It was tough. And I'm also a stubborn
Aries, so anyone who's an Aries, you know, we do
not take advice well. So, being told to sit on my behind
and do nothing, it's not something I do ever. But
I did, I did. I binge- watched a lot of
TV shows.

That's a good excuse-

And I read a book.

... to binge-watch. You read a book.

I read a book that wasn't like a ... I was going to go straight in
with a self- help book. You know what I mean? Like a growth book.

Was it a novel? Was it fiction? What did you read?

Pure fiction.

Was it like a romance kind of book? Was it something like that?

Marian Keyes. It was Marian Keyes.

Okay, okay.

I was so, I loved it. I literally was like, "
This is amazing." I read it in a second. I wish I
could read the growth educational self- help books that quickly.

Sometimes you just need a little brain candy.

You do.

I get it. I totally get it.

Brain candy. That's such a good way of saying it.
Brain candy.

Well, I'm glad you had a little break. I'm glad
you're back at it. And by the way, we want
to thank everybody listening to the show this week on
710 WOR Radio here in New York. We've loved being
on WOR over the last couple of months, and stay
tuned, because directly after the show we're going to be
going to live coverage of the 2025 New Balance 5th

(02:54):
Avenue Mile. Who's running the 5th Avenue Mile here? Anybody? Make
some noise. Make some noise.

Amazing.

All right, we got some people, as we record this
podcast, just to set the scene for you, if you're
listening, we got people walking in and out of the
run center getting their bibs for either the 5th Avenue Mile
or the Bronx 10 Miler, which is next week. We
got a lot of big races coming up and it's a
very exciting time at New York Roadrunners. So, we're excited for what's

(03:21):
to come.

I get to interview you on Sunday. I'm part of
the broadcast team for the 5th Avenue Mile on Sunday at night.

Which we're so excited about.

So excited. But I get to interview him, actually, actually
interview him, not just chat. I actually get to ask
the questions.

Take it easy on me. I hope you'll take it
easy on me. No hard questions. The broadcast, by the
way, in case you're not able to be there live
on Fifth Avenue, we're going to be live on Channel
7 in New York, WABC, as well as nationally on
ESPN+. So, you can check out that broadcast anywhere. And
it should be an incredible 5th Avenue Mile, which we'll
talk about in a second. But Becs, we have to

(04:03):
do our little annual check- in on my Chicago Marathon training.

Quickly. Let's not make this annual, otherwise I'm a really (inaudible) .

Oh, did I say weekly? Exactly. I want to give you
an update on how things are going. First of all,
I feel good.

Good.

Things are going well. I texted Becs on Monday. I
ran a new race on Monday. It was in New
Haven, Connecticut. There's a very pretty famous 20K. It's actually
the National Championship 20K race up in New Haven. They
added a little bit on to make a half- marathon
for folks like me who want to run the 13.1.

(04:38):
So, I ran the New Haven half Marathon on Labor Day.

Congratulations.

It was a beautiful day, beautiful course too. It was pretty
flat. Like you're going all through downtown New Haven, Connecticut,
past Yale and all this historic stuff. It was a
very nice course.

Fancy.

It was. It was fancy, and I really enjoyed it and had a
good time. I mean, one thing that really has happened
this year with my training, Becs, is you have pushed me
to really push myself during the long runs in a
way that I really never had before. I had always
looked at a long run as just cover the distance
and you'll be fine. And that is fine and that's

(05:17):
how most people approach long runs. But I've really started
pushing myself to run the marathon pace or better in
a lot of these long runs. And I have to
say, I feel like it is paying dividends for me, because I ran a 1.
37 in the half in New Haven and that was
miles five through 17 or 18 of my long run, so I

(05:38):
had some tired legs. And it felt pretty good. I
feel like things are going okay.

That is music to my ears. And it is slightly
controversial, but every coach is different, and that's why everybody
has different coaches. I do push people a little harder,
and if you take my personal classes, I guess you
know that. But I do subscribe to the belief that
most long runs should be marathon pace. If you have
a goal, if you have a goal. If you don't

(06:04):
have a goal, feel free. Run at whatever pace you
want to run at, forward is a pace, I say
that. But marathon pace, you're crushing it, dude, you're going
to be amazing.

I think I'll feel more confident showing up at the starting
line knowing that I've run this pace for some long
stretches of time, instead of trying to do it the key for the first time on race day.

That's the key. I feel so bad, because it happened
to me. I showed up on race day, and I
had no idea how my race pace should feel. And
that is miserable, because it can suck. It can really
suck. So, you should know how your race pace feels.

Well, the two highlights of the New Haven race for
me were first of all, at about mile seven I
look up and I see a familiar face, a guy standing
on the sideline of the race. And I'm getting closer
and closer and I'm like, " Is that who I think
it is?" And it's Jack Fleming, the CEO of the Boston
Marathon happened to be in New Haven and he had

(06:58):
a little bit of a, he got a little confused.
He mentioned to run the half- marathon. He accidentally ran the
5K. It's actually kind of a funny story. He probably
would not like me telling this story, but he accidentally
ran the 5K. So he was done and he knew
I was running, because he follows me on Strava. So,
he went to find me, found me on the course,
and we ran the second half of the half- marathon
together, which was really awesome. Jack is a very fast

(07:21):
man, so he pushed me pretty hard in that race.
And then the second highlight for me was, does anyone
know about New Haven Pizza? Because New Haven, I mean,
we've got great pizza in New York. Of course, Chicago's
got their deep dish, New Haven, Connecticut is famous for pizza.

Really?

And they have a style of pizza in New Haven,
which I call, it's written Apizza, like A-P-I-Z-Z- A.

Oh, that's why you went after.

Yes. I don't think it's pronounced Apizza. There's some better
way to pronounce it, but there are a few really
famous places. And I went to a place called Sally's,
which is one of the OG. I see some people
giving thumbs up in the audience. It's one of the OG pizza places
in New Haven, and it was an hour wait, and
half the people there had just run the half.

I was going to say-

So, they were all kind of waiting for this pizza,
but oh my God, Becs, this was worth every minute
of that wait. It is this brick oven-

You're not just saying that because you have 19 miles in you.

Oh, and there's nothing better after a long run than pizza,
let's be honest. Pizza and beer. But it was just
an incredible pie. It was amazing pizza. That made it
an incredible Labor Day for me in New Haven, Connecticut.

That sounds so nice, and it sounds like I really
should get myself to Connecticut.

I recommend this race for anybody who wants to run
a fun race, the Labor Day race in New Haven,
Connecticut, the half of the 20K or whatever. By the
way, Conner Mantz ran the 20K and won up in New Haven,
so they had some real pros running this race, and
our friend Conner Mantz was the men's winner of the 20K.

This year?

Yeah, on Monday. He was there. He was in New
Haven and he won this thing. So, it's a big
race. It was a lot of fun. All right, well,
we've talked enough about me and my running, but it
was a good day in New Haven. Let's talk about
some actual fast runners for a second. We've got the
New Balance 5th Avenue Mile coming up and Becs, we
have a loaded professional field in this year's 5th Avenue

(09:10):
Mile, which is not easy, because the world championships are
coming up in Tokyo very soon. So, there's a lot
of people obviously who are keeping their powder dry for
Tokyo, but our incredible pro athletes team, Sam Grotewold and
Dorian Kail and Christine Burke have assembled an amazing team,
including 11 Olympians and many of the fastest athletes in

(09:33):
the world. On the women's side, defending champion Karissa Schweizer
will return to defend her title. We're excited to see
her. You might remember Carissa tied the event record and
winning in her debut last year.

Yeah last year.

And she says she's coming back to take another crack
at breaking the record in that race. She's a 5, 000- meter
specialist. She will have some pretty stiff competition, 800 meter
standout. Raevyn Rogers, who is the 2020 Olympic bronze medalist. Olympic
steeplechaser, Courtney Wayment and Olympian Heather MacLean, who is the American Indoor 1,

(10:08):
500 meter record holder. So that's going to be a
great race on the women's side.

I remember last year, because it was following the Olympics
last year, so I feel like we've always got something
where people are either warmed up or warming up in
between this race. Oh, it's going to be so fantastic. And the weather's looking good.

It looks good, so hopefully the rain stays away. We've had some
rainy days in the past for this race, but it's
looking good, so fingers crossed.

I mean, obviously for spectators, a little bit of rain, not
great, but for the people at home spectating a bit
of rain is exciting. Like Formula 1, when it rains,
you're like, "Yes."

A little rain. A little rain is fine, not a monsoon. We've had some monsoons at race. We don't like that.

I feel like it adds some current.

Yes, I agree with you on that. Well, on the
men's side, we're very excited to announce our guest today
on Set the Pace is the current North American indoor
and outdoor mile record holder and Olympic 1, 500 meter
bronze medalist Yared Nuguse, who is going to join us here

(11:10):
on Set the Pace, and we are so excited to
have Yared leading an incredible field in the 5th Avenue Mile.
It's also going to include last year's runner up, Josh
Hoey, plus Hobbs Kessler, Sam Prakel. It's going to be
a great field. And how cool is it to have Yared coming
in to run the 5th Avenue Mile? He's first time ever

(11:30):
running any New York Road Runners race.

What?

For real.

That just stopped me in my tracks.

I know.

Like, wow, okay, we just had a really interesting conversation in
the green room there. I feel like I learned a
lot about Yared in the past five minutes or 10 minutes I had to
chat, so I'm really excited to keep this conversation going.
He is amazing.

Yes, Yared is an incredible guy, a great story. So he's going
to be out here in a second.

He's going to come on in a second, but we have so much other stuff going on this weekend, especially
if you listened to the podcast last week.

It's true. It's true. We've got some celebrities who are
running the mile. We've got the first ever Broadway mile
happening on Sunday.

Do we have any Broadway fans in here? Yeah-

Musical fans, of course, it's New York, you've got to have some Broadway
fans. So this is a Broadway mile. We're going to
have stars of the stage from all kinds of shows
all up and down Broadway, some off- Broadway folks as
well who are going to be running down Fifth Avenue
from theaters and productions all over the city, which we're
very excited about. And we've also got a number of

(12:29):
other kind of showdown races as part of the 5th Avenue
Mile. We've got the NYPD and the FTNY. They will face off as
they love to do and so many of our races
and of course we've got another eight- five- hundred or
so runners from ages two to 90 because we've got
kids races as well.

I need to sign Talula up. This should be her first race.

I actually thought this was going to be Talula's first race.

It was supposed to be.

But what happened?

Mom hasn't signed her up yet. Can I get her in?

Oh mom, what happened? I think we can, can we
get Talula signed up for this race? We're going to
see. You may have to-

She's real fast.

... pull some strings, but I think we can get your daughter in, because she's-

She pull the elbows though. We may have to ... She's
a bit of a Jostle runner.

She's going to throw some elbows in the race, knock some kids
over just to get to that finish line. I like
the competition, I like that competitive spirit. But let's get
this done. We got to have Talula's debut at the 5th Avenue Mile.
So again, come on out to check it out. It's
a great thing to watch in- person if you come
out. I like to hang out on the lower end

(13:32):
of the course. If you come out around the plaza
a little bit north of that, you can see the finishes,
you can see these great runners and if you can't
make it there again, you can watch it live on
WABC channel seven or ESPN+ coverage is from noon to
one Eastern time and also new this year. Our friends
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(14:39):
Nuguse. All right, we are so excited to have this
incredible runner join us. Yared is a native of Louisville,
Kentucky and he once dreamed of being an orthodontist. Which
you don't hear every day. He is a Notre Dame
graduate, a biochemistry major. This is a guy who can

(15:01):
do more than just run a mile.

Yeah, a lot more. Yeah.

And not only does he run but off the track,
he makes art on Instagram, and he's obviously one of
the world's best milers. He took the Olympic bronze medal
in the 1500 meters in Paris and opened this year
by setting the indoor mile world record of 3
right here in New York City at the Middle Rose games up at

(15:24):
the Armory, and that was his third straight New York
Roadrunners Wanamaker Mile title after a packed spring and summer
competing in both Grand Slam track event and the Diamond
League. He's making his debut at the fifth ... The New
Balance 5th Avenue Mile this Sunday. So let's give it
up for Yared Naguse. Welcome to Set the Pace. This

(15:53):
is a treat.

Oh yeah, no, thank you guys for having me on.

We are so honored to have you here. I just
got stopped in my tracks, because I realized that it
was your first New York Roadrunners race ever.

Yeah, that's right. I think I've always seen Fifth Avenue
and always kind the idea of coming out and doing
it, but never really worked out with my last two
seasons, so glad it could work out.

You've had a pretty busy past two seasons, which we're definitely going
to get into, but we are so happy that you
are here to do it this year.

Yeah, thank you guys.

Yared, I have been very lucky to be right there in the flesh
for some incredible moments recently in your career. I was
in Paris in the stadium at the Stade de France
for that incredible 1, 500 meter race that you obviously finished

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third. Of course, your teammate Mr. Hawker had that incredible
day winning gold. You won bronze, so that was obviously
a day that you'll never forget. I want to talk
about that for a minute before we get on to
what's been happening more recently and that race. And for
those who haven't seen it, I recommend everybody go back,

(17:00):
find it on YouTube or NBC Olympics or whatever it
is. It is one of the most thrilling moments that
you'll ever see. And the Mile to me Yared is after
maybe the 100 meters and the 200 meters, which are
those incredible surges of adrenaline that you get as a
fan. You just seeing those runners out of the block,
the mile is so exciting, especially as you see them

(17:23):
come around that final lap. Walk me through that race
just a little bit from your, I'm sure you've done
this only a couple of thousand times. But I want
to just from this distance now over a year away,
how shocking or fulfilling is it still for you, the
way that race ended up playing out?

Yeah, no, it was really crazy, honestly, I think coming
into Paris, I hadn't really had an outdoor world medal
at that point. And I think with the competition that
was there, I felt a little intimidated, but also strong
enough that I definitely could get one if the race
was right. Coming into it, I definitely was more anxious than I

(18:03):
felt for any race I've ever done, which makes sense,
Olympic finals. But I think even just every race, every
heat I had in that stadium was just so much fun
and so exciting. And getting to that last one I
remember I was obviously a little nervous but trying to
calm my nerves and stuff. And they have us doing

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intros, which they hadn't done for any of the other
races and I've never done an actual intro where it's
like you stand there for a minute and then go
and I was just like, " Oh God, what am I
going to do?" And then I spent the whole pre-
intro period thinking I got to think of something to do for this intro
right now, otherwise I'm going to look stupid.

That's so interesting that that's the kind of thing that
ends up in your head when you're on a stage
that's bigger than any stage you've ever been on.

Honestly, I think it was a distraction. I was just
latching onto anything to make me not think about the
race for a moment. We do our introductions, we get
out there and we're on the track and it kind
of feels like a " I'm ready for it," sort of
moment. And the gun goes off and it's hot right
from the start. I think Jakob really just wanted to
run that race-

Jakob Ingebrigtsen of course.

And I think a lot of it just kind of
felt like, " Okay, just stay in it." And a race that
fast, all you can really do is just stick where
you are and then wait until that last lap to
kind of do something. And then that last lap comes
and it's just like, I feel really good. I think you kind of
know how your race is going to go by that
last lap. And I think in that race I felt like,

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okay, I'm feeling really good. I can do this. 300
to go kind of Cole starts passing me around and
I try to hold that off a little bit, but he
gets around me and then we both get around Timothy
Cheruiyot and then it's the four of us, Jakob and
Josh who been obviously hyped up the entire year, and

(19:55):
then Cole and me. And I think at that moment I
just was like that 200 to go moment, that's where it
really felt like, okay, we're really here. That's when the
tension builds and everything just kind of locks into place
and I feel like I'm more in the zone than anything.
But I definitely remember that last 100 meters. I go
really wide just like I need the space and it

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looks crazy crowded in there and I remember everyone's passing
Jakob and I get into that bronze position and I'm
just like, there's a moment where it's just like, " Oh
my God, I'm here." And they're still a race to go, so I'm still just like, "
Okay, we got to hold him off." I don't know
if he's going to have another kick or something, but
there was another moment. This is very obviously quick.

I love it. I love this. Yeah, they're brief moments,
but there are moments we're never going to forget.

But they're very clearly I can remember, although the whole
thing, it feels like a general fog over it, but
it's kind of like there's these moments. And there was
another moment where I'm just like, " Oh, I can do
more." And I think I had another surge where I almost get
to silver, but I don't quite make it. But I
still felt like that was a race where I left
everything out there and was really happy about that.

Oh my gosh, I can't even imagine that feeling of
going from the nerves of the intro moment to going ...
I can see you making that move. I can still
see it in my mind watching you do that that
day. And just being like, " Oh my goodness, this is
actually happening. There we go." Massive congratulations.

Thank you.

Forever. Let's take it back to how running started for
you. Because you weren't always super into running as a
child. And it was only apparently your PE teacher who
noticed that your mile time was pretty quick. How old
were you when they noticed that?

Yeah, so it was my freshman year of high school,
so I was 14. Yeah, 14. And I think at the
time I wasn't even a sporty person in general, very
nerdy, still am.

We love the mix though.

Yes. But yeah, in PE we had these required miles
that we would run for a grade, and I'm not
going to get a B in PE, so it was just like.
But more than that, it was pretty easy to get
an A. But I was still just was like, "If I'm
going to run a mile, I'm just going to run
it as fast as I can, who cares?" And then

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get to this McDonald's that we'd go to before everyone
else did.

The rewards.

And so yeah, I'd run 5
is pretty fast for someone who doesn't run at all.

Was that the first time you'd ever really run a
mile or run for speed?

Yeah, I think that was the first time I'd been timed at
least. And so, I do it and I just go
about my day after that and just be like, " Cool. Totally
dusted everyone, nailed it." And then my PE teacher sees
this and he tells the cross country and track coach,
who approaches me in the middle of my AP human

(23:02):
Geography class I remember. And he just takes me outside
and he's just like, " Hey, I heard you run really
fast in the mile on PE, you should join the
track team." And I was like, " No, that sounds hard and
I don't want to do that." And he's like, " No,
but really, you should really." He was really persuasive. And

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I was kind of just like, " Okay, I'll give it a try
just to see what happens."

Had anybody, I'm curious, in your family been a runner?
Did you have any of this in your world?

No. No, no. One in my family did running and
my brother did a little basketball, but he didn't really ...
None of us were really athletes. And so, it felt
weird to go out and do that, but I remember
just how quickly I fell in love with it. My
first race, I remember I didn't know what spikes were

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or any kind of fancy shoe thing, so I ran
it in my worn down tennis shoes that I wear
every day to class.

Even more impressive.

I ended up running, it was a two- mile indoors,
I remember, because I ran 11 something minutes and one of
my shoes fell off halfway through, because someone with spikes
stepped on the back of it, it just slipped off. And
then I drank too much water at the end, because
no one told me that if you drink a lot
of water right after your race, you're going to throw
up, so I threw up.

All the rookie mistakes.

But I kind of loved it. I think it just felt so different from
everything else I did. There's just this moment of just
competition and just putting it into a small moment of 11
minutes in this case, and just racing as fast as
you could felt really, really good. And I think I got
really good really quickly, made a lot of friends really
quickly, and then decided to keep on doing it.

And all of that success in high school puts you
on a path for Notre Dame, a pretty good place
in sports I've heard. From time to time they've had
a good team here and there. And you ran there
as well. And talk about the experience of running at
Notre Dame. Obviously, it's a school known for football and
other sports, but what was it like being a running

(25:11):
star there? And I want to talk about your academic side as well.

Yeah, no, I loved it. I think I didn't even
know what Notre Dame was before they contacted me, fun
fact. They had contacted me the fall of my senior
year in high school and the coach was just like,
he had just become coach last year, so he was just
recruiting everyone he could. But I went on my visit

(25:35):
and I fell in love with it really, really quickly.
And I feel like throughout my time there just felt
like there was just a lot of really good team camaraderie,
which I think was what I wanted the most. And
my coach was just really focused on building this really great,
in his case, cross country team. But have good track
athletes too. But I think it was really fun, because

(25:59):
we were really bad at first. My first year, my
freshman year we didn't even make it to nationals. But
over the course of it we would end up, our
highest finish would be second place at NCAAs, which I
think was just a really huge moment for our team.
And I think there was just so much at Notre Dame that I think

(26:22):
I really appreciate and I felt like I really came
into my own person as well. So really, really grateful for
that, and just everything Notre Dame gave to me.

Wow. I still struggle. I've been here eight years from
the UK originally, and I still struggle to understand how
Americans seem to excel at two things when they're at
University College. Because in the UK it's very much like
you pick academia or sport. And here it's like you

(26:53):
did, and I'm going to read this to get it
right, okay, you had a degree in biochemistry whilst you were
doing this incredible rise to excellence on the Notre Dame
track team. That to me is like, " How? Are you Beyonce?
Do you have that many hours in the day?" It's unreal, but-

I bet that's the first time someone's asked you if you're Beyonce.

That's a crazy comparison, but I love it.

I'm taking that with me.

But yeah, no, I think one of the reasons I
chose Notre Dame was because I wanted this academic- athletic
balance, that I didn't really see at a lot of other schools
I was looking at. And because academics was the most
important thing in my head anyway. And making sure I
go to a good college and do really well so
I can go to dental school and do really well

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and yada, yada, yada. I had this plan.

You were still on the dental school path at this
point? Running was just a bit of fun.

No, yeah, running was just a great extracurricular. It's going
to look great on my applications, I'm sure, especially if
I'm really good at it. So, I remember I had
a couple of conversations with my coach Carlson. He was
just like, " There's easier ways, there's easier majors. You don't
have to do biochemistry," which I actually only started doing

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because I thought that was the only way you could
take biology and chemistry, which is not true. But no
one told me that, so I majored in biochemistry. But
I ended up really loving it. I think biochemistry and
chemistry in general, I feel like I was just, I
don't know, I just loved it, honestly. It was hard
and it was annoying and obviously also hard to juggle
it with running, but it was kind of easy for

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me to separate the two. I always saw running as
more of like, oh, my enjoyment and break between all
this hard studying I did, versus stressing out about school
and then stressing out about running. I didn't need more
stressors in my life obviously. And it was tough, I
think, especially my freshman year, but I think I found
a good rhythm for my sophomore year and the rest of

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the time I had there.

Absolutely.

And you mentioned the dental interest and that wasn't just
a college thing, we were talking before the show, you
are still on the dental track, you are still focused
on becoming an orthodontist when you're running career is over.
Where did that come from? Where was the, no one
in your family's an orthodontist. Where did this interest come from?

So yeah, I think really I attribute it all to
my orthodontist when I was a kid. Dr. Woods, shout out.

You all know Dr. Woods, I'm sure we all know
Dr. Woods out there. You guys mentioned running podcasts all
the time.

But I had a terrible mouth situation. It was scary.
I feel like I didn't care. I thought it looked
cool, but I think to everyone, it was like my
lateral and sizes are just the side front teeth behind
my front teeth and everything else was crooked and I
just looked like a shark basically. But through Dr. Woods

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and my braces treatment, I eventually got really straight teeth
over a long time. But I always loved, loved, loved,
love coming in to do our monthly checkups and whatnot.
And just having the chance to talk to him, and he
was just so much fun to talk to me. I
was just like, just this grown man who's just like,

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I don't know, I don't know why he's so much more fun
to talk up to than most adults are at that
age. And I feel like, I remember specifically I had
this one conversation with him where I'm just like, I
know I want to be in some kind of science
thing, maybe a doctor, but there's so many different doctor
paths that you can do and I don't know which one's for me. And

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he's like, " You should just be an orthodontist." And I
was like, " You're so right." And then-

Sign me up.

And I would eventually look more into it, and I
saw a lot of things that I really enjoyed about
it that kind of drew me to it. I think
I really like the idea of working with younger children or
the teenager age and whatnot. I really like the idea of
just doing something that kind of sticks. I think in

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dentistry you're kind of just always fixing people and whatnot,
but orthodontics, you do something in it should stick if
they're doing their retainers and whatnot. I think I want to have
a permanent lasting impact on the people who come to
see me. And I also didn't want to have anyone's
lives in my hand. I don't think I would be

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okay if I was a surgeon or something and someone
died. But yeah, I think the orthodontist encapsulates all of that really
well, and I think that's what I want to do.

It makes sense. And we talked about the Invisalign. You've
got Invisalign right now, so you're still a patient I
guess as well, which is great. Well, you know what
backs, I've never met an out- of- work orthodontist in
my life, so I think it's a good career. There's always
business for an orthodontist, right?

Oh yeah. I think people say as long as people
have teeth there's going to be dentists and orthodontists and whatnot.

And it's very cool now for grown- ups to get
braces and all sorts. So okay. You said something when
we were talking about you changing from studying, being more
on the academia side, to running. That kind of just
pinged in my head competition side. As you were, your

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words, very nerdy, very geeky, very good at it, very,
very clever. And then running came along. Was that, do
you think the start of your passion to want to
build your competitive side on the running alongside obviously what
you were doing in the classroom? You were the best at your in sciences

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and you were on track to be very, very good there,
but then running came along and was like, ooh, this
is a new competition to be the best at whatever
distance you wanted to be.

Yeah, I think running just provided another more clear outlet for my
competitiveness. Because I think I've always been very competitive. I
grew up with five siblings, so it's just obviously-

And you're pretty much in the middle, right?

Yeah. I'm like four. And so, for me it was, in school it was just like, "
Oh, I got to be the best in school so
I can get a better report card than all my
siblings or something." Or even whether it was beating everyone
in my class or doing everything I could, just be
at the top. I think that I always had that in

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me and that's why I worked so hard in those
things. And then running comes along and it's like, oh,
well now it's a very more clearly a competition because it's
just like, it's literally you're competing. But it was different.
You're not doing competition of your mind. Well, part mind
I would say. But you're just having just a pressurized

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moment of just adrenaline, just leaving it all out on
the track.

Yeah, yeah in that stage.

Yeah. I mean, I'm curious, you mentioned no one else was really
athletic in your family as you've gone on to have
all this success as an athlete, which we're going to
talk more about in a little bit. But how has your
family reacted to that? I don't know if your siblings
or your parents, are they into this, or are they like, "

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What is he doing again? He's in the Olympics, he's
doing this, he's doing that." What is it like being
really the only athlete in a family and doing it at
the level that you're doing it?

Yeah, I mean, they're definitely supportive, but it's not like
their knowledge of running has grown exponentially since I've been
competing. I think they know what they know and they'll
watch the races, but they are not going to watch
the entire track meet. They don't care about what's going
on. They just care about me and what I'm doing and
that's it. And I've kind of enjoyed that. I think

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the idea of parents who knew a lot about track
and being a little overbearing, I think that would've kind
of pushed me away a little bit. But it is just
kind of nice. They support in their own weird way.
I will say they're kind of just like, " Oh wow,
you killed it, as expected. That's what you should be doing."

Always expecting you to be at the top.

Or just like, " Oh, you lost, loser. What?" So, they can be grounded.

Okay. Talking of not losing, but after the games you had, it
was a quad injury right?

This is back in '21, you qualified-

You started the Olympic trial.

This was when you were in college, right?

It was.

You qualified for those Olympic trials.

That was a 1, 500.

Yes.

What was it like for you? You coping with missing
out on Tokyo and being you qualify, you were at
the trials, it was there for the taking to be
the leader of the classroom.

Oh yeah. I mean, that was always a really tough
moment for me, because I think coming into those trials,
I wasn't expecting to make the team. I was kind
of just like, I'm going to go out here and
try my best, but I don't know if I'm good
enough to be top three in the USA right now.
And then that race happens and I do end up
coming in third and obviously I'm super excited and very

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shocked and then very nervous. Because I was like, how
am I going to compete on the world stage? I
was definitely very, very nervous going into that race. And
then I got a quad injury right after I got
there to Tokyo, and I think that was really hard
because I'd just never really been actually injured before. And
so just trying to get better as fast as I

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could and just make it so that I could at
least get to the line was really hard. And I
think it just sat in the back of my head, I
feel until Paris happened, where it was just like I didn't
really compete at the Olympics. I was there, I'm Olympian,
but I didn't even get to race on that track
even once, because I actually just could not run fast

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at all. And I wasn't just going to go out
there and run five minutes for 1, 500.

Yeah, no one qualify a 3

Yeah.

Mm-hmm, okay.

So, that was really hard, but I feel like in
a lot of ways I feel like Paris released me
from that race, and just what happened there. I think
I was able to be like, all right, not only,
I probably would not have medaled in Tokyo, realistically, I
was not at that point in my career where I
am now. But now it's like, " Oh, I've done it.

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I've made it there at that stage."

Yeah. Oh my gosh.

How has the medal in Paris changed your life? Do
you feel you're seen differently? I'm sure when you show
up to track meets it's very different, right? I mean, what
is it like now for you and how different is
it for you day- to- day as an Olympic medalist?

I mean, the day- to- day is honestly more similar
than you'd expect. I just kind of go about my
normal life as normal. It's just I will get recognized
more often than I used to before the medal, especially
here in New York. I've been on a couple runs
at Central Park and it's like I'm 100% chance going
to get recognized by someone.

We're pretty into running here in New York.

Yes.

In Central Park there are a lot of hardcore running
fans, so that's the place to get recognized.

But no, I think for me personally, just kind of instill
a lot of confidence. I think you come out of
a race like that where it's just like everyone's so
good and everyone's at their best and coming away with
a bronze medal there just feels like you are one
of those people and you're always going to belong in
that kind of group. And so, it gives you a

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lot of confidence into your race. It's just how you
want to perform there.

Have you and Cole Hocker talked about the race since
Paris? Have you sat down and walked through it from
each of your perspectives, I'm curious?

After the race we did when we were kind of
set around for press conferences and meet medal, actually getting
the medal and all that crap. But not really after
that. No, I think, yeah, no, we just haven't really
had a moment. We're just like, " Let's just talk about
this race from over a year ago now."

Had enough time to just both debrief in your own
way and now come together.

I'm sure the POV is very similar. The race was fast
to hanging on and then, I mean for him it
just opened up on the inside, which I'm sure felt
a relief to him just after being blocked in. But
no, yeah, I haven't really sat down and talked about it. So yeah.

Keep us posted on that one. Okay, so let's move
to indoor. Well, I mean they're kind of both. I mean, Paris is indoor. outdoor.

It was outdoor, but it was kind of a roof.

Outdoor kind of feel. Yeah, it's like the tennis, it's indoor outdoor.
Anyway, I digress. In February you ran a 3
indoors at the Millrose Games to set the World Mile record.

And that was the other place that I was close
to your achievement because-

Basically he's trying to say that he's your good luck charm.

I would like to think so, which means you should have a good day on Sunday, because I'm going
to be there. But no, I was actually, I'm sure you remember
this like it was yesterday, holding the tape when you
broke that record at the Millrose Games. Nnenna Lynch, our
chair and I were holding that tape, and it was
an incredible experience just to see you come down that
stretch and hit that tape in time to break that

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indoor record on that brand new Millrose Games track up
at the Armory.

Yeah.

Oh yeah. Honestly, that race was, it was like my first race of
the season too, I think. And I think just, I
had always come so close to that mile record and
it just felt like, " Oh, come on. Third time's got
to be a charm at this point." And just to
see it finally come together and finally get my first
world record was just such a crazy great experience for

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me. I think there, I had a lot of people there too,
and so it was just really fun celebrating that afterwards.
But yeah, no, I think that race also just feels like
a blur, honestly. It's just kind of like was run,
run, run, run, run. And then, okay, we're at the
finish line. Great. That was it.

We were just talking about indoor versus outdoor distances back in
the green room and I was like, what do you
prefer? Laps or a point to point? And his first question was like, " What
pace?" I'm like, " Oh, okay, here we go." But the
countdown of the laps is something that we were talking
about. And when you are running that fast, how do you keep,

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A, calm, and, B, consistency to just stick with it
and keep going?

Yeah, I think the 1,500 is really interesting because there's not a
ton of time to think or do other things. But there's
still enough time to just at least make a couple
moves. And I feel like a lot of the 800 is just
stay relaxed, stay in it, and just find a comfortable

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but fast position for the first 800 meters. And then
just making sure you're where you need to be for
that last lap or that last 200. And I think
I've run so many 1, 500s at this point that it
all just kind of becomes second nature of just where
I'm at and what I want to do at certain

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phases. I know every time I hear that bell, there's
just a moment of just like, go, now we're doing it.

This is it.

Yeah, so it's always been really exciting I think just
to, I don't know, especially that last 200, it's just, it's always great when I get there.

Do you feel the nerves bubble up when you got
that last 200 of like, oh?

No. I think after the race starts there's no more nerves. It's
just like it's happening, we're in it. And I think
the excitement bubbles up, and getting to really go all out
basically at that last 200 is always just a really
great experience.

Yeah, it is-

I think that mentality is happening. It's happening. Just go
with it.

There's just a certain Built- in drama to the last
200 of a mile or a 1, 500. Not every marathon gets
that. We don't typically get a lot of scintillating, super
close finishes at marathons obviously, but at that distance there's
just something really dramatic about it. Having run a few

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when I was in high school myself, it just felt
dramatic. Right. Do you love that moment of like, okay,
now it's on, you get to that bell lap, there's
last 200 meters. Do you have a sense in most of
your races of what everybody on the track might have
left or is it really focused more on what you
think you've got left?

Oh yeah. It's definitely just what I'm doing and what
I can do. I've always been good just focusing on
myself in general, but I think you get to the
end of those races and it's just like, it doesn't matter what everyone else
is doing. I need to just sprint as fast as
I can. And I think we all love competing. I
think all professional runners in general and all runners, period.

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But there's something, I don't know, something about finishing a
fast race that I just really love doing.

Were you bummed when Jakob Ingebrigtsen broke your record like
five days later? I mean you didn't get to hold that indoor record
for very long. I remember thinking, oh man, what a
bummer. I saw that record and now it's already been
broken. What was it like when you got the news
from Europe that he'd broken the record?

No, I remember watching it. I was kind of just
like, honestly, we were like, " What are the odds?" And
I feel like we were probably pretty high. I don't
know. Knowing him if he's fit, he probably could. I
wasn't that bummed. I was a little bummed. I was kind of just
like, I had it, I got it. And I always be like, "No,
I was always first, so."

You set the record, he just broke it, that's different.

But no, I had good fun about it. And I
think I've never really liked the idea of record really,
really old records. I think I never would want a
record that lasted for 30, 40, 50 years or whatever because then
it feels like, what is track doing right now? Why
aren't people running fast? But these days it feels like

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everyone's getting faster and it's really, really good.

Yeah, absolutely they are. All right, let's talk about the
Bauman. Bauman, spectacular. The Bauman Mile. Okay, so you were
out leaned by Neil. I always say Larios, that's a
whole different runner, right? Okay, but you lost by one
100th of a second. I don't even know what that

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is. Obviously, we look on our watches, but how do
finishes like that teach you to finish differently? We all
think of, most of us here are kind of more
long distance runners. We don't have to think about really how
we come over the finish line, other than hopefully standing

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up. But on the track, and for you, there's tactics
to how far you lean. How did that change your
trajectory of how you finish a race?

Yeah, no, I think from that race specifically, it's a unique
race because also I was just going after a record
essentially and just seeing how fast I could run, and
just dive really, really hard. But I think a lot
of times when you're finishing a race and you feel

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good finishing a race, like I did in like Paris
or most of my races. Then there is more of
that lean factor. And I think I've always been, I've
just, I usually do have a good lean. It was really
just that race where I didn't. But honestly, I think I still
ran the race I wanted to run and still had a
really good race. That I've beaten people by a hundredth

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of a second before, less than a hundredth of a
second before. And it's always crazy. It's always like, " Oh
my God, did I actually get that?" But I think it
still doesn't take away. When they're both that close, you
both kind of know it feels like a fractional thing

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on any other day. It could have been totally different. But yeah.

So we're so thrilled to have you in New York
this weekend. It's going to be a great moment for the
New Balance 5th Avenue Mile to have you as a
part of this race. I know Yared, that this was probably
not where you planned to be this part of your
season. Obviously, we've got a world championships happening in Tokyo.

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You didn't end up getting through in Eugene, Oregon to
qualify for the world championships. And then I know you
had a shot in Zurich to qualify and things didn't
quite work out for you. I know you had some health issues there.
So, can you reflect a little bit on, you've had
such an incredible last year and a half, so it'd
be hard for you to be disappointed about much in the way that your

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last year and a half has gone. But how do you
feel about not going to Tokyo, and how are you going
to take that and hopefully turn it into something great
in New York this weekend?

Yeah, no, it's definitely tough, because I think I've expected
a certain amount from myself, and at the very least,
making it to Tokyo, if not hopefully meddling there again.
And it was hard. I feel like mostly after, I
think after USA is, it was really hard, because I didn't really
know about the whole Zurich thing until, I don't know,
an hour later. But it felt like at the point

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where I was and it was just like I still
ran the best race I could at USA's and if
I didn't make it, then it's like I hope that
the guys that we're sending are going to really kill
it there when they get there. But it's definitely hard.
I feel like we're going to have these moments in
your career at least if you have a decently long
one where you're not going to perform as well as

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you want to, where you're not going to get to
where you want to get to. But it's not like
I was doing that all year. I think I took
it all into perspective and I was just like, I'm
not really going to let one or two bad races
define my whole season. And even though I really wanted
to be there and I'm really jealous everyone was going, I also just

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love Tokyo as a place. I'm still just going to
keep my head up and I feel like just really
lock in for next year. There's no worlds next year,
so there's less you got to do for that, but I still really
want to have a good 2026. And I feel like I'm going
to do everything I can to make that happen.

We talk about how fast these miles go by. And
that can be a positive when you have a day,
the one you had in Paris. And it can also
go by really quickly on the negative side. When you
think about what happened in the race in Eugene, was
it, you didn't run the race that you think you
could have run? Or did a few other guys just

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have incredible days and they were just better than you
that day?

Kind of felt like a little bit of both. I
feel like seeing that many guys run that fast at
USAs was really crazy and surprising. But also I think
just with, I thought I'd have a little stronger of
a kick. I know leading races is very hard, obviously,
and so maybe I shouldn't have led the entire thing

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or just 800 of it or something. But I talked
to my coach about it and I think we just
kind of agree that it's just the circumstances of what
was happening around me, but also just could tweak some
things like race strategy wise to make sure that you
secure that top three position. But yeah, no, I think USA's

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at a really good spot right now. I think after
Paris, that was very evident. And I think it's really,
really exciting to be in an era where not just
the world is good, but also like USA is really,
really good. So I'm really, really excited for those guys.
They better kill it there, I must say, but.

Well, Tokyo's loss is our gain here in New York.

Exactly. When we get you here in New York. We
have a couple of things I think a lot of
people want to talk about that is not necessarily running
related. My favorite one being your amazing pet.

Yes.

Tyrone.

It's Tyrone.

Tyrone, the turtle.

I was like, "Can Tyrone come as well, please?" That was my request. But you seem to just
have, earlier this year you announced that you're in a
relationship with your partner, Julian, and there seems like there's
a lot of wonderful things going on for you outside

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of running, as your heart's getting full in those other
things. Is that setting you up you think for even
more success as you said, for a great 2026 and
whatever may come thereafter?

No, 100%. I mean, I think just this year I
felt it's been just more okay to just be myself
in a lot of ways. And just do things that I
might have been worried about doing before. And I think
that's just really important. You want to have a really
strong base behind your running. Running is obviously just a

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lot of training and putting in the work and all
that stuff. But I think especially now where it's like
I might not have the year that I've wanted to
have. You want to have people that you can trust
and fall back on. And having Julian to help me
through it has been amazing. I still haven't gone to
see my tortoise yet since I've been out way in

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Europe, but I will see him again soon after this.

Is he hibernating? No, not yet.

No, not yet. Not yet. He'll be in Thanksgiving or
something like that.

Okay, so you've got some time?

Yes. Yeah, we'll get some time together, but he just
kind of winds down in the fall, so it's like, but.

I just have to ask, why? Why a tortoise?

Why not?

I see irony in this. Is this meant to be
ironic? You're kind of the hare in this relationship. Is that
how this goes, or what drove you to get the
slowest animal on earth as your pet?

Okay, surely the snail is slower, because-

My brain won that too. So, thank you for correcting him. Snails are actually slower.

Fine. Fair enough. Fair enough.

Took me to a closest owner of someone who has a tattoo on their arm. Come on.

No. Yeah, so I got him in COVID during 2020 as a lot
of people got pets. And originally my plan was, " Oh,
I'll have this pet and he'll be a team pet
and I'll just pass him on to generations of senior
teams, cross- country teams at Notre Dame." But then I

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ended up doing a fifth year and then I got
really, really attached. So, I was just like, also I
just didn't trust anyone to take care of him. So,
I was kind of just like, " Actually I'm just going to go
to Boulder and take him with me."

Did he have to acclimatize to altitude?

No, but he did have to fly, which was probably
his worst experience, probably second to him flying over to
get to me in the first place. But I did, because
he was sort of hibernating already at that point when
I moved. So it was-

Go get on the plane.

... mostly easy, but I think he kind of woke
up. I was just like, " What is going on?"

Can the turtle fly in the cabin with you?

Yes.

Like you can bring it with you, right?

I literally just brought him through security and I was like, "
This is my tortoise." And they just swabbed him and
then let him pass through.

Oh, my gosh. My daughter is getting a tortoise.

Yeah.

And how do you know it was a bad experience for him? Was he in his shell
the whole flight? How did you get the emotional temperature there?

He just peed himself twice. That's usually how you know,
if they're defecating or urinating, then they're not having a
good time.

Yeah.

But no, yes-

That would be a tell, yes. That would definitely be a tell.

But yeah, I just love the idea. I wanted an
easy pet. I feel like I didn't think I had,
especially with my pro career and stuff, I couldn't. At
least some people manage it well, but I couldn't really
handle a dog or a cat. And a tortoise just
seemed so cool too. I was just like, "It's just so
sick." He just hangs out there and does his own
thing, which is what I do most of the time. Because I'm just

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keep to myself too. So I think I just related
a lot with him just and then the irony of
the slow tortoise fast person, but he's awfully fast when
he's motivated, I will say. He will move, especially if
he's just like, if he's on carpet or something, I
feel like if he's outside he'll be pretty chill. But
when he's inside and I just let him have some

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living room time or whatever, he just goes crazy. He's like, "
Oh my god, a toe, I'm going to go bite
this." And I'm just like, " Stop." He just basically tries to
eat everything that isn't food, so yeah.

This is all the content we need. We need more Tyrone.

Yeah.

Tyrone running around your carpet content.

No, people always want more Tyrone content. And it's like if I was
more into social media, I'd probably give it to them. But
I maintain some at least.

And the professional runner element as well. Can we talk
New York food while you're here? Are you a foodie? Are you interested in?

I love food. Don't know if I'm a foodie. I
think I just love eating, honestly.

Well, let's not talk pre- race, because I know you
probably have your specifics for your pre- race, but is
there anything that you have come to New York and
you're here for this race that you're like, " I cannot
wait to go and eat that?"

Honestly, it feels like just generally New York pizza. I've
had a lot of really good New York pizza after races. But
I'm just like, I've had so many honestly different places
right after my races. I haven't had one specific place that we
go to, but there's just so many good ones. I
just love pizza generally.

There we go.

I think just having a really, especially if it's really greasy or something. I'm just psyche
about that.

All right. Okay. Rob will be dragging you to Connecticut.

Yeah, there's good pizza up there, but you can't go
wrong in New York City, it's everywhere. All right, so
you've fed yourself, you've fueled up, you're towing this starting
line of the New Balance 5th Avenue Mile this Sunday. How
do you approach this kind of a race? I don't
know how many road miles you've done. Do you have a
lot of experience doing road miles?

No. Can we play the game?

Two.

Two.

Can we ask him the question that I asked you?

Yeah.

How far do you think Jared's long runs are?

Oh, that's a good question. To get ready for a mile?

Throughout the season. Oh gosh, two miles?

Insulting.

You go long, you go really long getting ready for
miles. I guess it would make sense. I don't even
know. How far do you go?

Like 17.

You go 17 miles?

I have done 17 miles.

Who else sounds like they go (inaudible) . I'm like, "
So should for a marathon, should we be running like 50 miles?"

That's fascinating to me. I mean, I assume most milers do
that. What is that doing? It's just an endurance game.
It's just simply building the VO two max.

His pace was like 6

I think a lot of people, it's coach dependent for
sure. And I think my coach just is very distance
heavy and strength is speed sort of guy. And so
to do that it's like we all got to go on
these long runs and just hammer sometimes we don't always
hammer the long runs, but-

But you can.

We could. I usually get dropped on almost all of
these long runs. Also, I think I'm going fast and they're
just going way faster because they're just way more distance-
y than I am. But yeah, no.

So you're used to running obviously on the track. You
said you've done two road miles before. What's the mentality?
How do you approach a point- to- point straight line
mile, like you're going to get out on Fifth Avenue Sunday?

I mean, I've heard that it can be very deceiving
how close the finish line is, so I will be
watching out for that. But I think road miles are
a little weird. Because you kind of just go at
a certain point, I'm assuming, and that's what I've done
in my road miles in the past. Whereas in the
track you kind of know where you are. In the
road mile, I'm sure there'll be quarter mile markers or

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something, but I'm not really going to know. I don't know
when 200 meters to go is. I'm just going to have to
guess and be like, all right, this seems like a
good enough place to really put in a good kick
and hopefully I don't die by the time I get
there. So yeah, there's a few little different things, but I think I've
heard it's very downhill too, so I think that'll be nice.

Rob Simmelkjaer (01:00:23):
There's a bit of an up and there's a bit of a down.
Yeah, so you get a little undulation. This may be
the only time I'm ever able to give someone as
fast as you any kind of a tip when it
comes to running. But this is my moment right now.
You're running down Fifth Avenue. What you should do is
go out there tomorrow or Saturday and look at the
street signs and you'll be able to see what street

(01:00:44):
you're on as you go down Fifth Avenue. And as
the street numbers go down, you'll know how close you
are to the finish line.

Becs Gentry (01:00:51):
It's a good one.

So, that is a pretty good way to demark it. And I've run this
once or twice, and that's what I do is just count
down the blocks. That's a little pro- tip from a non-
pro on running the New Balance 5th Avenue Mile.

Yared Nuguse (01:01:08):
That's good to know. I'll check them out. I think
that at least I can get an I idea of where I am versus
just running blindly.

And the potholes.

And the potholes. There are potholes. I didn't know that.

No, no-

There are no potholes on New York City streets. Absolutely not. Never.

Never.

There's never been a single pothole. Our friends in the
Department of Transportation ask me to say that, absolutely. No,
I'm sure it'll be in great shape on Sunday. And
we're thrilled to have you as a part of this
race. Can't wait to see what you do. We know
it's going to be great. It's going to be special
for us, for all of our runners. The 8, 500 runners

(01:01:45):
coming behind you on Sunday as well at the New
Balance 5th Avenue Mile. So, have a great couple of
days getting ready for it, and we will see you
on Fifth Avenue.

Thank you guys, I can't wait.

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donate. All right, and that does it for a really
fun episode of Set the Pace. Becs, it was great

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to see you. Thanks to all of you for coming
out here to the Run Center, and we'll see so
many of you out there this weekend. If you're out
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