June 11, 2025 • 29 mins
Meet Kostas, the tattooed permanent makeup artist breaking stereotypes with his exceptional lip blushing technique. When he first appears on screen, covered in tattoos, you might not expect him to be the mastermind behind natural-looking, beautiful lip enhancements. But that unexpected contrast is exactly what makes his story so compelling.
Kostas shares his journey into the beauty industry, beginning when his wife Daria needed help with her booming business. His first attempt at lip blushing was a disaster – "I destroyed her lips completely," he admits candidly. Rather than giving up, this former athlete analyzed what went wrong and developed his own revolutionary technique that prioritizes gentle application and natural results.
What makes his approach special is the meticulous attention to detail, particularly the corners of the lips which many artists overlook. He creates a subtle gradient effect, with more color on the outside gradually fading inward, giving a natural 3D appearance. The procedure involves careful numbing, precise outlining of natural borders, and typically three gentle passes to avoid traumatizing the skin.
Beyond lip blushing, Kostas reveals his expertise in organ massage, a specialized technique he learned from Russian practitioners. This isn't just abdominal massage but targeted work on specific organs to remove stagnation and toxins. He claims to have improved his own liver health dramatically through this practice and notes the fascinating connection between organ health and emotional wellbeing.
Listen now to discover how this unexpected beauty expert is transforming the industry with his unique blend of artistry, technical skill, and holistic understanding of the body. Follow Kostas on Instagram at Golden Brows for permanent makeup and Angel Organ Sanctuary for organ massage services.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Alright, so the next guest.
So we're splitting this up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is part two I do love the idea of like married
or like partner couples thatbasically just like turn into
one giant badass.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And just do stuff together.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's a good teamwork.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a nice story.
They call us power.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Couple of permanent makeup yeah, we inspired, a lot
of couples actually yeah therewere a lot of like people like
joining forces and permanentyeah, a lot of a lot of clients.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
They finish the class and then next week they bring
the husband.
Well, see, you're the first manI've, okay, so we're going to
talk about today, we're going totalk.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
They finish the class and then next week they bring
the husband.
So funny.
Well see, you're the first manI've Okay, so we're going to
talk about Today, we're going totalk about with Costas, we're
going to talk about lip blushingand other things, but he did
mine.
You've done mine three timesnow, I think.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Three yearly I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We did one and then.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Maybe two yearlies and then follow up and then one
yearly.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , um, and I sorry I wore
lipstick today, but you knowyeah, I know I didn't want to
hurt your feelings, but but theylook.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
But we do natural results.
That's why you can put alsoyour lipstick whenever you are.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's that's a very good point too, because it
doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You look natural all the time, then you put it on,
you just look like someone whoputs on right no, I have
lipstick too I know, but I saidthat the same for my wife.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're doing, we try to do natural, we specialize in
natural results.
We want you, when you gooutside, we want you to add a
little bit, if you want.
Yeah, you look very natural,when we wake up, you don't need
to do anything.
You go for your coffee, yourbusiness.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
But if you want to go outside, or you want to to
enjoy, you know, dinner, or andthis, you can add, of course, of
course, but it would be nice tohear actually your opinion on
this topic, because you areenjoying the, uh, the our
product.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah uh, I was not attracted to her
before at all, and now because Iknow something about her lips I
don't know what it is, but uhno, you look fantastic and I
noticed it like even when youhave the procedure, you go in
the day and you come out.
I don't want to skip ahead whatyou're talking about, but
that's okay.
She comes back and obviouslythere's some discomfort, like
any procedure you have, but it'sworth it because of what you're
(02:17):
getting out of it and theconfidence you feel like and I
can kind of tell you carryyourself differently.
It made my lips look bigger andyou make it look yeah right,
yeah, it fills them outbasically yeah, but you didn't
have any.
You weren't like complaining,you weren't like it almost
looked, it just looked likethey're a little bit puffy.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was happy to have them puffy.
I'm sure you heard that before.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Like yeah, people wish they were dead Always.
They said you, they're going tostay like this Day seven.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I'm like, yeah, they just stay like this and just
hold on to it, trying to eat alot of salt and retain water.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, then we will close.
All the people that are doingthe fillers, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Actually, you should add that to your repertoire now.
Do the little filler afterwardsand be like all, right now we
can fill you up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, I was in one facebook group and everybody
asked you know, like back then,oh, should I say to the clients
first fillers and then per mymakeup, first for my makeup and
first and then fillers.
Everybody say first per mymakeup and then fillers, first
per my makeup and then fill.
The first time.
I say no, no, no, no, why itdoesn't make sense first fillers
and then per minute.
I say why because if the guy youknow with the fillers messed up
(03:24):
, then they were playing with,they blame me with my permanent
makeup after his work no, he hasto do the perfect fillers and
then I will do colors, becausewhat I'm doing for your natural
lips I'm putting I color yourlips, your natural lips, if your
lips look like this.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
They continue to look like this, but with beautiful
color Right, right, right.
If your lips they have theperfect yes, this is my business
.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
My business is to do beautiful color for your lips.
If your lips are beautiful,we're going to have beautiful
lips with beautiful color.
If your lips are ugly or youdon't have lips or the guy with
the filler, look like thisyou're going to look like this
with beautiful color.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, with beautiful color.
Yeah, with beautiful color.
Yeah, by the way, if you'relistening and not watching,
costas is covered in tattoos,and when I first came into this
I had no idea.
I was just like, oh, it's Firstof all a man.
I was surprised that it was aman that was going to do my
fillers, covered in tattoos.
I mean, you look like.
Jay Lee like uh, you've walkedright out of a movie.
(04:23):
I don't know like what moviedoes he look like he came out of
cape fear, cape fear.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh, that's a fantastic movie also I could see
you as like, really just inlike, in like a fast and not
fast and fury, uh, mad max, ohthat's fury road, just like.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, thank you, by the way, if if
you're looking for an actor.
Costas is also an actor as well, yeah.
So okay.
So when you did my lips, I'venoticed more and more that you
do shading right.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, we don't work into your skin.
We try, you know like, to packwith a lot of shading color.
The more gentle, the more.
I will tell you my story.
So when we came here, daria,after a couple of months, she
told me you know like we are sobusy.
You know like, can you jump inthe industry?
Because I did my business withmy phone, I was so bored, you
know like all that stuff.
(05:15):
So I have time to work with her.
So she asked me to help her anddo special the lips, because
it's the difficult procedure ofthe permanent makeup.
Yeah, so I, I learn you knowthe the lips.
They teach me I did.
You know like, one procedurewith one beautiful lady, I
destroy her lips completely.
One gorgeous woman, russianlady, I destroy her lips.
(05:38):
A couple of days later, I, Ithink we figure out.
She came back to the office.
We figured out that she didcompletely wrong.
Um, aftercare, I work exactlyhow they teach me.
I was so scared because it wasso beautiful and it was very bad
experience for me.
So I analyzed a little bit withmy wife.
I said I will never do lipsagain in my life it's
(05:59):
traumatizing I.
You cannot imagine.
I said to the lady I will payanything you want just to fix
your lips again.
I'm not doing it again.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I was scared it was my first bad experience.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh my god so because of my personality sports, my
whole life and fighting and allthat stuff I could.
I didn't want to to give up.
So one day, daria, she was invegas for conference and I said
to my face bring me onebeautiful model from instagram.
I want to do her lips.
So I sit down and I analyze alittle bit in my head and I say
(06:31):
what they teach you.
They told me back then lipshurt.
I don't want to hurt my client.
Lips bleed.
I don't want to see blood.
You need to stretch.
I don't want to stretch toomuch.
Um, your client will hurt.
I don't want to hurt here.
So I did opposite.
Whatever they teach me backthen, and I did so I.
I took some amazing results formy model for this client.
(06:53):
So I text the picture to dariaand she said to me oh, you
should go to here, you know likeand learn.
You know like, permanent makeuplist from here.
I said I, I didn't learn fromhere, it's my work, it's my
second work, you know, in thismodel.
So I create the technique bymyself, you know like, I figure
out by myself how I will work onthe client.
(07:13):
So I took more classes,especially from Russia, because
over there I think is the bestof the best.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
They have great lips in Russia.
Russian ladies have like thebest lips.
They're more advanced.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
For the beauty, it's Russia.
Everything starts from there.
I love Russia, I love everybody, but Russia is the high quality
for the beauty special.
So this was my beginning.
I try to push myself and notgive up.
(07:45):
I found my technique slowly,slowly, I advance, I advance, I
advance.
And today we are doing so,gentle, and we work very, very,
very light for natural results.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Do you do?
Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
so when I come in you , you put the numbing cream on
me for like 20 minutes I'mputting your numbing, the
numbing cream for 20-25 minutes,but you have to understand the
numbing cream before we open theskin.
It will not work so good rightwe just want the first pass to
be a little bit fast so we openthe skin with the first pass
when I, when I, when I'm doingyour outline right and then we
(08:24):
did, we put the differentnumbing that it will work much,
much stronger and will help younot feeling pain.
Right to continue the procedure,and I'm I'm doing only three
passes and after each pass Inumb you again right so you feel
comfortable for the next passyeah comfortable for the next
pass.
I'm doing only three passes.
I don't want to traumatize yourlips, I don't want to overwork,
(08:46):
I don't want to damage yourskin and I'm doing only with
three passes.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's not like it's not something I would choose to
do if I didn't have to, but likeit's not so uncomfortable that
I wouldn't come back.
I mean, I would do it everyyear if I had to.
You know absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's totally worth it .
Is that what some people do,Like?
Do they try to do a lot in onesitting because they don't want
to come back?
No, no, no.
Or people don't want to comeback.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
It's not about the client, it's about the artist
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some artists.
They think that if the more youhurt the skin and the more
blood you have, the less resultsyou will have.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh right, Exactly so you are permanent makeup artist.
I will be after the showbecause I'm learning a lot.
You took a class.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So exactly what you said the blood pushed the
pigment out.
Okay, and the old, old waysthey were all like yeah, going
and deeper and like and like.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The industry changed completely the fast the past
like 10 years.
Everything switched to morenatural, to less is more, you
know like, and they're actually.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The results are lasting and staying good mine
lasted the first time for likethree years.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah because we work on the first layers of the skin.
We don't try to pack colorinside.
We don't hurt the lips and wedon't hurt the muscle, because
for the lips we have also muscle.
If we hurt the muscle, we haveswollenness.
When we have swollenness, wewill go deeper and we will have
more blood.
So it's the package ofeverything we need to protect
the lips, the skin, to havebetter results.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
How do you know what type of lips, like you say?
You came in and looked at me,yeah, and then did you.
I don't know if you drew on mewith anything.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Always, always.
First of all, we will put thenumbing cream.
I will not pre-draw before, Iwill not pre-draw before.
I will put numbing cream andthen I will pre-draw and found
your natural borders.
A lot of artists, old artists,they like to work also outside
of your natural borders.
Because the client maybe theyask you know, like for thicker
lips, oh, can I have bigger lipsand all that stuff?
(10:57):
No, my love, because when weit's completely different skin
the lips and completelydifferent the skin outside of
your lips, so they will healcompletely different yeah so for
the people that are workingoutside of the lips, we have
experience and we are doingremoval for these clients.
They came to us to do removalfor that, yes.
So first I will put the nummycream and then I will pre-draw
(11:19):
to find your natural borders.
You will approve the beautifulshape and then I will work
exactly on this shape first theoutline and then the shade
inside but you do a really goodjob on the bottom lip too,
because the bottom lip is um.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
There's shading in the corners too, right?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
first of all.
First of all, I'm doing verygood job for both lips.
I will not do one lip.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
One looks good, one don't know.
So yes, something else you.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You point something very important the corners.
A lot of people, they work verynice for both lips, but they
don't give attention to thecorners.
Yeah, so I'm working very nicefor my borders, I'm working very
nice my shade, but my very,very end.
I'm doing three passes and thenthe fourth pass.
It's only details and what I'mdoing on the details, I'm going
to the corners.
Too much beautiful the cornersand how much inside.
(12:11):
Further in I will put the, thecolor it gives it like a 3d
effect yes, right, we like to dothis more from outside to
inside, like more color, andslowly, slowly, fade to inside
we would draw it like withmakeup exactly and then did.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Then did you do like right down the center, like a
little bit more, just like theline down, or it was just.
Was.
I just feeling that, because Iknow sometimes no sometimes
maybe it doesn't take so goodthe color.
Maybe I will work.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Some spots, some spots are a little bit more
difficult.
Some spots they don't take somuch the color.
Some other spots they take soeasy the color.
It depends.
I don't know what I will seewith the client.
Sometimes I have the experienceto see the beautiful lips that
they will take so easy the colorand I was surprised they don't
take so easy the color.
Sometimes, you know, like I seea little bit difficult, oily
(12:58):
skin, not very nice lips.
They take the color amazing.
But usually when you see youknow dry, thick, beautiful lips
they will take it like this yeah, interesting the dry skin is
the best for permanent makeup.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, so that's really good to know yeah, so the
drier your skin the better, sojust treat your skin like shit
Absorb the color and holding iton Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oily skin pushes the pigment, so I was going to ask
that question.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So is there anything diet-wise?
You tell people not to have, orbefore they go in Diet.
Like anything that like if it'soily skin usually it's.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
you know what their people are eating sometimes and
whatnot Is there anything to no,we don't go in such a, so I
could come in and eat all theice cream I want and then have
the procedure.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yes, yes, no problem.
That's all he wanted to know.
That's all I want to know.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because if you can eat the ice cream.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's one of the reasons.
Eyebrow anything but um.
But that doesn't mean I'm gonnadonate my eyebrows have good
results.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
We have some clients, oily clients, and we said you
know, like it will never staylike it will never stay and we
start the first pass and youalready you know like have 50 of
the other color over there younever know sometimes the skins.
You know, like you see, thatthe skin love the pigment.
They hold the pigment, yeah,but in general the dry skin is
the beautiful, like a russianand asian skin that are amazing
(14:20):
yeah, for permanent small pores.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Suck it in the best.
Yeah, okay, cool.
So how long have you been doingthis again?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm doing nine now.
Nine years like one year afterwe came here and daria start
with it, not even why.
10 years, yeah, like six monthsafter Daria start here.
The business actually hestarted back in Greece his he it
wasn't his career, but he wasdoing tattoo removals back in
Greece well, I will tell youwhat I did because, like I said,
(14:49):
I'm the multi-talented, I'mdoing everything.
I'm doing acting, I'm doingboxing, I'm doing sales, I'm
doing permanent makeup, I'mdoing singing.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I'm doing everything you're a renaissance man, I am
the multi-talented.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah so how she , how she jumped in the industry
.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
She started at the very, very beginning, 17 years
back, with eyelash extension soshe learned eyelash extension.
This was her entrance to thebeauty industry.
So she came back from russia,from belarus, she learned the
eyelash extension.
She came to my country, ingreece, and she said now I know,
but nobody knows to do eyelashextension, how, how we will show
(15:25):
to our clients.
So she teach me and I puteyelash extension to her face,
to her eyes so her clients cansee the eyelashes and come to
see them.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
So can you imagine this man here?
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Doing lash extensions the first time I saw him and I
was like, are you?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
serious.
That's where I knew he canbecome a good permanent makeup
artist and I told him you shouldhelp me, and you should do it
too, because he was so good inputting lashes like he he wasn't
doing for a long time, becausethen I had the system and I had
a person that I trained, so theystarted to do my lashes.
But when, after years he didn'ttouch lashes, you know like.
(16:11):
And then when we came here backto the United States, I'm like,
okay, like in Greece theycharge like $70 for eyelashes.
In the US it's like $250.
I'm like I'm not paying thismuch money.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh yeah, I have my husband doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You're doing my lashes Sometimes because you're
a couple also, sometimes I talkto you don't be bitchy with me,
just don't be bitch with me.
You know, like Remember, go alittle bit back and remember
Kostas, I want you to learneyelash extension Done Kostas.
I want you to learn tattooremoval Done Kostas I want you
(16:47):
to learn lips and permanentmakeup and microblading.
Done, kostas, I want you todeal with accountants Kostas.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I want.
I like your style.
Don't be bitchy.
Good for you.
No, I have a personal personalmakeup artist, stylist, massage
therapist.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'm doing the organ massage.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Whenever she wants to go in my spot, like, okay, you
have 15 minutes, can I come alittle bit?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
that seems like a lot of like.
I mean, I don't know what goesinto the eyelash extension, but
it seems like you have to bevery patient with everything
you're doing this is even morethan permanent makeup intricate,
like very just because evenpermanent makeup you have to be.
You can't just rush it becausean artist after.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I was very lucky because she was so, so, so busy
and popular with themicroblading.
We have thousands of studentsand thousands of models.
So she told me you will do allthe models when they come back
for the touch-up.
So I was very it was bigopportunity for me to work in
thousands of models for thetouch-up.
I have a very good experienceI'm doing microblading.
(17:58):
If I do microblading for myclient, I'm the fastest
microblading in the world andnot damaging the skin with the
perfect you just know whatyou're doing.
I can do it with my eyes closed.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Like half of precision.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But don't Half of precision half of precision.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I can do it with my eyes closed yeah I swear to god
eyelash extension it'scompletely different man yeah,
that's you need to focus so muchbut remember also when you
first started doing microbladingyes, now you reach this level.
You know you feel comfortablewith lashes too, like when I
first started, I was shaking.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
My lashes is pain in the ass, yeah it's gotta be.
Lashes is pain in the ass, man.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I used to do my own lashes.
I would do the individuallashes and I didn't tell you for
about seven years.
I wanted him to think that Ihad long lashes.
I finally copped to it at somepoint.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well cause, at one point I found I found I was like
oh wait, nikki's in bed.
Why are eyelashes stuck to themedicine cabinet?
She's not in the bed, she's nothere.
Why do I have eyelashes and I'mlooking in the mirror?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
yeah, I would run into the bathroom when he was
still in bed and I'd be like noone's on the end yeah, but then
they turn around backwards andyou know all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But yeah, whatever no , you look good, no matter what.
Thank you, I know what to say.
Yeah, he knows what to sayexactly okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So I want to touch really quick on two things.
I want to touch on what toexpect right after you have your
lip blushing, but then I justwant to talk about your organ
massage for a couple minutesbefore we wrap.
Yes, so tell me, I would loveto do this.
Okay, so tell me about theafter.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, Exactly the opposite.
Aftercare than eyebrows andeyeliner Exactly the opposite.
Eyebr than eyebrows and eyeliner, exactly the opposite eyebrows
eyeliner.
We have dry healing for 10 daysand we give you know like to
the people the package you knowlike to to do whatever they need
to do for the 10 days.
Uh, the lips where they need toaccept, expect that to be a
little bit, you know like,fuller and a little bit you know
(19:50):
like like you said.
You know, oh, my god, I wish tobe like this, you know like
puffy and all that stuff Alittle bit, not too much.
They need to do a moist 10 daysafter care.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
We give them something special, you know,
like they use for their lips.
But if they don't use this orwe don't have to give them, or
whatever they lost it orwhatever the best thing to use
is Aquaphor.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Aquaphor is fantastic .
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Fantastic.
You don't use neosporin, youdon't use the other creams that
they have not they are not badcreams, but it's not good for
the open skin for your lips.
They also make my lips peelexactly you don't want.
You don't want antibiotics andall that creams.
They have something.
Aquaphor is the best 10 daysmoist with aquaphor 10, day 10,
10 times per day.
What like?
(20:36):
You wake up in the middle ofthe night to go to the, to the
toilet, to the rest.
Moist your lips like it's themost important.
In day four, day five, yourlips are gonna look gorgeous.
In day 15, you will have thefinal color right now you said
about the organ massage, and I'mso excited about this because
I'm telling you, organ massageis the best thing you can have
(20:58):
in your life and the mostimportant thing, like I said to
Daria yes, I am because I knowwhat it is.
I'm doing massage for my musclesbecause of the sports, my whole
life, once per week, twice perweek.
Why am I doing it?
Because I have so muchinflammation, because I'm I'm
working hard, I'm working outvery hard, so I want to remove
(21:19):
the inflammation from my musclesto feel better.
I'm doing training the next day.
So what I did?
I sit my way.
What I did for my organs 49years?
What I did for my organs 45years?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
nothing stagnant, stagnant.
So much stuff in there.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
If I don't touch my liver, if I don't massage my
liver to my liver to bring bloodflow and remove my toxins, if I
don't touch my gut bladder tobring bile for my gut, if I
don't touch and massage my gutand my small and large intense.
I'm sorry with my English, mysmall and large intense.
(21:56):
I'm sorry with my English, mysmall and large intense.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
How I will remove all that stuff that they stagnant
all these years.
So the most important thing isthe organ massage and I said to
my clients when they came also,if you want, you can do blood
exams and check your kidneys andyour liver levels and how they
look, and then do it again twomonths after the organ massage,
every week, and you will see thedifference with the results,
(22:22):
because I healed my liver mepersonally.
I have always very high liverin my life.
And the last six months.
I have the best numbers in mylife.
So the most important thing isthe organ massage.
I recommend to everyone,everyone, organ massage, do you?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
do this out of your office too?
Yes, oh, okay, good, oh, that'sgood to know, because I want to
come see you.
I also wanted to ask you tooabout that.
Do you think, do you feel likepeople store a lot of emotion in
their organs, so do you, do yousee that?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I touch my love.
I start with the hands and thenI go to the organs and then I
go to the foot and I see all thecombination you know like when
I touch.
You know like the blood, theblood the blood gut blotter here
and when.
I touch the gut blotter and thefoot how I know the client, she
will feel crazy sensitive withher gut blotter here.
Yeah, so everything isconnected.
(23:13):
And when your organs doesn'twork good, definitely the client
.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
100% is emotional yeah affect everything you know
how every actually you can tellby like talking with a person,
like you can understand and scanlike their like emotional state
.
You know like if they haveproblem with liver it's anger?
Yes, you know like if they havewhat else, like I'm like now I
(23:42):
cannot remember of the on top ofthe head anxiety stress.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You know like like I'm working.
I'm working with my client andI touch the spleen.
I start doing a little bitmassage for the spleen and the
client feels uncomfortable.
I say you feel uncomfortable?
Yes, did you have antibioticsor ibuprofen the last 24 hours?
(24:08):
Yes, I am with antibiotics,like I know what happened.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
When I touch their organs, I know what happened in
their life.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Wow, that's really amazing.
Yeah, I don't know whathappened in their life.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's really amazing yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know why people haven't done this more.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I'm telling you, it's new yeah.
And it's the most importantthing you can have I'm doing.
If I say to the people, becauseI'm doing every week, I'm doing
massage for my muscles, youknow like I'm bringing massage
in my house.
So if you do one per weekmassage, you need twice per week
your organs.
This important is your organs.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So how often would you recommend somebody does?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
First of all, I don't , I don't.
If I don't touch you, I cannotrecommend I touch.
If I touch Daria, daria, she'seating all that stuff.
She has the perfect organs.
I'm doing her organ massage andI feel everything, I touch
(25:04):
everything and she has theperfect organs.
Another client I cannot eventouch.
I have to work one hour just tofeel, to, to, to relax, to
relax your muscles and relaxwhen I touch you.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I can tell you, but I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
But I will tell you the other thing I'm doing
Daria's massage, organ massage,and she has the perfect organs.
And then three days later shehas one meeting for the business
and she's so stressful aboutthe products that they will not
arrive in time.
The production here and allthat.
And the first thing that sheasked for me is organ massage.
(25:35):
The other thing that I will tellyou that I'm so, so happy.
My kids and I swear to God Inever say lies my kids, I start
to my eight-year-old son and tomy four-year-old son, organ
massage for three minutes whenthey have sensitive gut and they
want to go to the restroom andall that stuff.
Now, I swear to God, when theyfeel sensitive with their
(25:56):
stomach, they came to me andthey said daddy massage, daddy
massage, I'm doing massage.
In five minutes they are in therestroom, wow.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I swear to God we're going to have to go over there
next time we're constipated.
Absolutely, we have to.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
My grandmother used to do all those things she
learned back in the village,just like tapping stomach or
whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yes, self-massage.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So it makes sense and it's like that's fascinating my
office visit one of the, theowner of the the four.
She has four clinics in theworld Spain, Austria retreat
(26:36):
medical facility like high end.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So they are doing organ massage.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They are doing organ massage in their clinic so I
finished organ massage with herand I swear to God.
She said I want you to come andtrain my staff.
They are not doing what you aredoing Because I learned from
Russia and my teacher taught methat you cannot just touch the
organs.
I think you need to go.
What is?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
different that Costas is doing.
It's like he really tap in intoyour organs.
It's not just abdominal massage.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
She speaks good.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
English.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Some people do like your belly massage, lymphatic.
You know drainage, so he's notonly like moving the lymph.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And it's amazing, even if you work, work, you know
soft and all that stuff, but hetap in into the organs
specifically, he spends time.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's like a one hour only organ massage.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know like focus on reflexology, you know he
started with that, but like it'sfocused like I teach you also
how you will breathe.
So yeah, the way that I teachyou how you breathe, you will
allow me to go closer to yourorgan.
I want to touch your organs.
I want to remove the stagnant,I want to remove the toxins.
I need to touch, I need to opena little bit your ribs, I need
(27:54):
to give space over there foryour organs to breathe and blood
flow.
You know like.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Help us to remove all that stuff.
We both need to see you.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
We do you know like, help us to remove all that stuff
.
We both need to see you.
We do everyone.
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
This is fantastic we do have to wrap up yes for a
second.
I was going to say I want to goin and take your organs either
way, as long as you remove them,it's a different show.
Yeah, or harvest them, yeah,yeah but it makes sense that you
want to the breathing to helppeople relax, so then you can
get in closer yes so yeah, butlet's do.
We have to have them back again, because this I think we just
(28:27):
touched.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I told you they were going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, I know uh and then um.
Can people find you at the sameplace?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
on social media.
It's different social media Iam.
I mean the instagram, but it'sthe the same place.
And the golden brows, goldenbrows start there for eyebrows
lips lash you
Speaker 4 (28:46):
know, like the eyeliner, everything and then
angel organ sanctuary, andthat's on Instagram too.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I think I just started following they want to
check out his work.
We're gonna put yourinformation, everything at the
bottom, so yeah well, thank youguys, so much for coming.
Thank you, it was so fun.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It was fun.
It's like a very, very naturalconversation, very natural we
went for dinner.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
you know, like we were talking about our stories,
Except for I'm still hungry.
We have a lot of stories If youwant we can go more?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, absolutely, we'll definitely have you back
for sure, definitely All right,so this probably be out next
week and then the week after,and they'll be out at 3 am For
the East Coast crowd.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
For the East Coast crowd yeah, it gets up at 6.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, and that's it.
So we'll see you guys next weekand take care, bye.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Thank you Bye.
Thank you Bye guys.
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Alright, so the next guest.
So we're splitting this up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is part two I do love the idea of like married
or like partner couples thatbasically just like turn into
one giant badass.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And just do stuff together.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's a good teamwork.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a nice story.
They call us power.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Couple of permanent makeup yeah, we inspired, a lot
of couples actually yeah therewere a lot of like people like
joining forces and permanentyeah, a lot of a lot of clients.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
They finish the class and then next week they bring
the husband.
Well, see, you're the first manI've, okay, so we're going to
talk about today, we're going totalk.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
They finish the class and then next week they bring
the husband.
So funny.
Well see, you're the first manI've Okay, so we're going to
talk about Today, we're going totalk about with Costas, we're
going to talk about lip blushingand other things, but he did
mine.
You've done mine three timesnow, I think.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Three yearly I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
We did one and then.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Maybe two yearlies and then follow up and then one
yearly.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , um, and I sorry I wore
lipstick today, but you knowyeah, I know I didn't want to
hurt your feelings, but but theylook.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
But we do natural results.
That's why you can put alsoyour lipstick whenever you are.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's that's a very good point too, because it
doesn't look.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You look natural all the time, then you put it on,
you just look like someone whoputs on right no, I have
lipstick too I know, but I saidthat the same for my wife.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're doing, we try to do natural, we specialize in
natural results.
We want you, when you gooutside, we want you to add a
little bit, if you want.
Yeah, you look very natural,when we wake up, you don't need
to do anything.
You go for your coffee, yourbusiness.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
But if you want to go outside, or you want to to
enjoy, you know, dinner, or andthis, you can add, of course, of
course, but it would be nice tohear actually your opinion on
this topic, because you areenjoying the, uh, the our
product.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah uh, I was not attracted to her
before at all, and now because Iknow something about her lips I
don't know what it is, but uhno, you look fantastic and I
noticed it like even when youhave the procedure, you go in
the day and you come out.
I don't want to skip ahead whatyou're talking about, but
that's okay.
She comes back and obviouslythere's some discomfort, like
any procedure you have, but it'sworth it because of what you're
(02:17):
getting out of it and theconfidence you feel like and I
can kind of tell you carryyourself differently.
It made my lips look bigger andyou make it look yeah right,
yeah, it fills them outbasically yeah, but you didn't
have any.
You weren't like complaining,you weren't like it almost
looked, it just looked likethey're a little bit puffy.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was happy to have them puffy.
I'm sure you heard that before.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Like yeah, people wish they were dead Always.
They said you, they're going tostay like this Day seven.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I'm like, yeah, they just stay like this and just
hold on to it, trying to eat alot of salt and retain water.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, then we will close.
All the people that are doingthe fillers, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Actually, you should add that to your repertoire now.
Do the little filler afterwardsand be like all, right now we
can fill you up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, I was in one facebook group and everybody
asked you know, like back then,oh, should I say to the clients
first fillers and then per mymakeup, first for my makeup and
first and then fillers.
Everybody say first per mymakeup and then fillers, first
per my makeup and then fill.
The first time.
I say no, no, no, no, why itdoesn't make sense first fillers
and then per minute.
I say why because if the guy youknow with the fillers messed up
(03:24):
, then they were playing with,they blame me with my permanent
makeup after his work no, he hasto do the perfect fillers and
then I will do colors, becausewhat I'm doing for your natural
lips I'm putting I color yourlips, your natural lips, if your
lips look like this.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
They continue to look like this, but with beautiful
color Right, right, right.
If your lips they have theperfect yes, this is my business
.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
My business is to do beautiful color for your lips.
If your lips are beautiful,we're going to have beautiful
lips with beautiful color.
If your lips are ugly or youdon't have lips or the guy with
the filler, look like thisyou're going to look like this
with beautiful color.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, with beautiful color.
Yeah, with beautiful color.
Yeah, by the way, if you'relistening and not watching,
costas is covered in tattoos,and when I first came into this
I had no idea.
I was just like, oh, it's Firstof all a man.
I was surprised that it was aman that was going to do my
fillers, covered in tattoos.
I mean, you look like.
Jay Lee like uh, you've walkedright out of a movie.
(04:23):
I don't know like what moviedoes he look like he came out of
cape fear, cape fear.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh, that's a fantastic movie also I could see
you as like, really just inlike, in like a fast and not
fast and fury, uh, mad max, ohthat's fury road, just like.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, thank you, by the way, if if
you're looking for an actor.
Costas is also an actor as well, yeah.
So okay.
So when you did my lips, I'venoticed more and more that you
do shading right.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, we don't work into your skin.
We try, you know like, to packwith a lot of shading color.
The more gentle, the more.
I will tell you my story.
So when we came here, daria,after a couple of months, she
told me you know like we are sobusy.
You know like, can you jump inthe industry?
Because I did my business withmy phone, I was so bored, you
know like all that stuff.
(05:15):
So I have time to work with her.
So she asked me to help her anddo special the lips, because
it's the difficult procedure ofthe permanent makeup.
Yeah, so I, I learn you knowthe the lips.
They teach me I did.
You know like, one procedurewith one beautiful lady, I
destroy her lips completely.
One gorgeous woman, russianlady, I destroy her lips.
(05:38):
A couple of days later, I, Ithink we figure out.
She came back to the office.
We figured out that she didcompletely wrong.
Um, aftercare, I work exactlyhow they teach me.
I was so scared because it wasso beautiful and it was very bad
experience for me.
So I analyzed a little bit withmy wife.
I said I will never do lipsagain in my life it's
(05:59):
traumatizing I.
You cannot imagine.
I said to the lady I will payanything you want just to fix
your lips again.
I'm not doing it again.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I was scared it was my first bad experience.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Oh my god so because of my personality sports, my
whole life and fighting and allthat stuff I could.
I didn't want to to give up.
So one day, daria, she was invegas for conference and I said
to my face bring me onebeautiful model from instagram.
I want to do her lips.
So I sit down and I analyze alittle bit in my head and I say
(06:31):
what they teach you.
They told me back then lipshurt.
I don't want to hurt my client.
Lips bleed.
I don't want to see blood.
You need to stretch.
I don't want to stretch toomuch.
Um, your client will hurt.
I don't want to hurt here.
So I did opposite.
Whatever they teach me backthen, and I did so I.
I took some amazing results formy model for this client.
(06:53):
So I text the picture to dariaand she said to me oh, you
should go to here, you know likeand learn.
You know like, permanent makeuplist from here.
I said I, I didn't learn fromhere, it's my work, it's my
second work, you know, in thismodel.
So I create the technique bymyself, you know like, I figure
out by myself how I will work onthe client.
(07:13):
So I took more classes,especially from Russia, because
over there I think is the bestof the best.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
They have great lips in Russia.
Russian ladies have like thebest lips.
They're more advanced.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
For the beauty, it's Russia.
Everything starts from there.
I love Russia, I love everybody, but Russia is the high quality
for the beauty special.
So this was my beginning.
I try to push myself and notgive up.
(07:45):
I found my technique slowly,slowly, I advance, I advance, I
advance.
And today we are doing so,gentle, and we work very, very,
very light for natural results.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Do you do?
Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
so when I come in you , you put the numbing cream on
me for like 20 minutes I'mputting your numbing, the
numbing cream for 20-25 minutes,but you have to understand the
numbing cream before we open theskin.
It will not work so good rightwe just want the first pass to
be a little bit fast so we openthe skin with the first pass
when I, when I, when I'm doingyour outline right and then we
(08:24):
did, we put the differentnumbing that it will work much,
much stronger and will help younot feeling pain.
Right to continue the procedure,and I'm I'm doing only three
passes and after each pass Inumb you again right so you feel
comfortable for the next passyeah comfortable for the next
pass.
I'm doing only three passes.
I don't want to traumatize yourlips, I don't want to overwork,
(08:46):
I don't want to damage yourskin and I'm doing only with
three passes.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's not like it's not something I would choose to
do if I didn't have to, but likeit's not so uncomfortable that
I wouldn't come back.
I mean, I would do it everyyear if I had to.
You know absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
It's totally worth it .
Is that what some people do,Like?
Do they try to do a lot in onesitting because they don't want
to come back?
No, no, no.
Or people don't want to comeback.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
It's not about the client, it's about the artist
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some artists.
They think that if the more youhurt the skin and the more
blood you have, the less resultsyou will have.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Oh right, Exactly so you are permanent makeup artist.
I will be after the showbecause I'm learning a lot.
You took a class.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
So exactly what you said the blood pushed the
pigment out.
Okay, and the old, old waysthey were all like yeah, going
and deeper and like and like.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
The industry changed completely the fast the past
like 10 years.
Everything switched to morenatural, to less is more, you
know like, and they're actually.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The results are lasting and staying good mine
lasted the first time for likethree years.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah because we work on the first layers of the skin.
We don't try to pack colorinside.
We don't hurt the lips and wedon't hurt the muscle, because
for the lips we have also muscle.
If we hurt the muscle, we haveswollenness.
When we have swollenness, wewill go deeper and we will have
more blood.
So it's the package ofeverything we need to protect
the lips, the skin, to havebetter results.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
How do you know what type of lips, like you say?
You came in and looked at me,yeah, and then did you.
I don't know if you drew on mewith anything.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Always, always.
First of all, we will put thenumbing cream.
I will not pre-draw before, Iwill not pre-draw before.
I will put numbing cream andthen I will pre-draw and found
your natural borders.
A lot of artists, old artists,they like to work also outside
of your natural borders.
Because the client maybe theyask you know, like for thicker
lips, oh, can I have bigger lipsand all that stuff?
(10:57):
No, my love, because when weit's completely different skin
the lips and completelydifferent the skin outside of
your lips, so they will healcompletely different yeah so for
the people that are workingoutside of the lips, we have
experience and we are doingremoval for these clients.
They came to us to do removalfor that, yes.
So first I will put the nummycream and then I will pre-draw
(11:19):
to find your natural borders.
You will approve the beautifulshape and then I will work
exactly on this shape first theoutline and then the shade
inside but you do a really goodjob on the bottom lip too,
because the bottom lip is um.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
There's shading in the corners too, right?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
first of all.
First of all, I'm doing verygood job for both lips.
I will not do one lip.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
One looks good, one don't know.
So yes, something else you.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You point something very important the corners.
A lot of people, they work verynice for both lips, but they
don't give attention to thecorners.
Yeah, so I'm working very nicefor my borders, I'm working very
nice my shade, but my very,very end.
I'm doing three passes and thenthe fourth pass.
It's only details and what I'mdoing on the details, I'm going
to the corners.
Too much beautiful the cornersand how much inside.
(12:11):
Further in I will put the, thecolor it gives it like a 3d
effect yes, right, we like to dothis more from outside to
inside, like more color, andslowly, slowly, fade to inside
we would draw it like withmakeup exactly and then did.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Then did you do like right down the center, like a
little bit more, just like theline down, or it was just.
Was.
I just feeling that, because Iknow sometimes no sometimes
maybe it doesn't take so goodthe color.
Maybe I will work.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Some spots, some spots are a little bit more
difficult.
Some spots they don't take somuch the color.
Some other spots they take soeasy the color.
It depends.
I don't know what I will seewith the client.
Sometimes I have the experienceto see the beautiful lips that
they will take so easy the colorand I was surprised they don't
take so easy the color.
Sometimes, you know, like I seea little bit difficult, oily
(12:58):
skin, not very nice lips.
They take the color amazing.
But usually when you see youknow dry, thick, beautiful lips
they will take it like this yeah, interesting the dry skin is
the best for permanent makeup.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, so that's really good to know yeah, so the
drier your skin the better, sojust treat your skin like shit
Absorb the color and holding iton Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oily skin pushes the pigment, so I was going to ask
that question.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So is there anything diet-wise?
You tell people not to have, orbefore they go in Diet.
Like anything that like if it'soily skin usually it's.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
you know what their people are eating sometimes and
whatnot Is there anything to no,we don't go in such a, so I
could come in and eat all theice cream I want and then have
the procedure.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yes, yes, no problem.
That's all he wanted to know.
That's all I want to know.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Because if you can eat the ice cream.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's one of the reasons.
Eyebrow anything but um.
But that doesn't mean I'm gonnadonate my eyebrows have good
results.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
We have some clients, oily clients, and we said you
know, like it will never staylike it will never stay and we
start the first pass and youalready you know like have 50 of
the other color over there younever know sometimes the skins.
You know, like you see, thatthe skin love the pigment.
They hold the pigment, yeah,but in general the dry skin is
the beautiful, like a russianand asian skin that are amazing
(14:20):
yeah, for permanent small pores.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Suck it in the best.
Yeah, okay, cool.
So how long have you been doingthis again?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm doing nine now.
Nine years like one year afterwe came here and daria start
with it, not even why.
10 years, yeah, like six monthsafter Daria start here.
The business actually hestarted back in Greece his he it
wasn't his career, but he wasdoing tattoo removals back in
Greece well, I will tell youwhat I did because, like I said,
(14:49):
I'm the multi-talented, I'mdoing everything.
I'm doing acting, I'm doingboxing, I'm doing sales, I'm
doing permanent makeup, I'mdoing singing.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I'm doing everything you're a renaissance man, I am
the multi-talented.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah so how she , how she jumped in the industry
.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
She started at the very, very beginning, 17 years
back, with eyelash extension soshe learned eyelash extension.
This was her entrance to thebeauty industry.
So she came back from russia,from belarus, she learned the
eyelash extension.
She came to my country, ingreece, and she said now I know,
but nobody knows to do eyelashextension, how, how we will show
(15:25):
to our clients.
So she teach me and I puteyelash extension to her face,
to her eyes so her clients cansee the eyelashes and come to
see them.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
So can you imagine this man here?
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Doing lash extensions the first time I saw him and I
was like, are you?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
serious.
That's where I knew he canbecome a good permanent makeup
artist and I told him you shouldhelp me, and you should do it
too, because he was so good inputting lashes like he he wasn't
doing for a long time, becausethen I had the system and I had
a person that I trained, so theystarted to do my lashes.
But when, after years he didn'ttouch lashes, you know like.
(16:11):
And then when we came here backto the United States, I'm like,
okay, like in Greece theycharge like $70 for eyelashes.
In the US it's like $250.
I'm like I'm not paying thismuch money.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh yeah, I have my husband doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
You're doing my lashes Sometimes because you're
a couple also, sometimes I talkto you don't be bitchy with me,
just don't be bitch with me.
You know, like Remember, go alittle bit back and remember
Kostas, I want you to learneyelash extension Done Kostas.
I want you to learn tattooremoval Done Kostas I want you
(16:47):
to learn lips and permanentmakeup and microblading.
Done, kostas, I want you todeal with accountants Kostas.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I want.
I like your style.
Don't be bitchy.
Good for you.
No, I have a personal personalmakeup artist, stylist, massage
therapist.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'm doing the organ massage.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Whenever she wants to go in my spot, like, okay, you
have 15 minutes, can I come alittle bit?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
that seems like a lot of like.
I mean, I don't know what goesinto the eyelash extension, but
it seems like you have to bevery patient with everything
you're doing this is even morethan permanent makeup intricate,
like very just because evenpermanent makeup you have to be.
You can't just rush it becausean artist after.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I was very lucky because she was so, so, so busy
and popular with themicroblading.
We have thousands of studentsand thousands of models.
So she told me you will do allthe models when they come back
for the touch-up.
So I was very it was bigopportunity for me to work in
thousands of models for thetouch-up.
I have a very good experienceI'm doing microblading.
(17:58):
If I do microblading for myclient, I'm the fastest
microblading in the world andnot damaging the skin with the
perfect you just know whatyou're doing.
I can do it with my eyes closed.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Like half of precision.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But don't Half of precision half of precision.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I can do it with my eyes closed yeah I swear to god
eyelash extension it'scompletely different man yeah,
that's you need to focus so muchbut remember also when you
first started doing microbladingyes, now you reach this level.
You know you feel comfortablewith lashes too, like when I
first started, I was shaking.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
My lashes is pain in the ass, yeah it's gotta be.
Lashes is pain in the ass, man.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I used to do my own lashes.
I would do the individuallashes and I didn't tell you for
about seven years.
I wanted him to think that Ihad long lashes.
I finally copped to it at somepoint.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well cause, at one point I found I found I was like
oh wait, nikki's in bed.
Why are eyelashes stuck to themedicine cabinet?
She's not in the bed, she's nothere.
Why do I have eyelashes and I'mlooking in the mirror?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
yeah, I would run into the bathroom when he was
still in bed and I'd be like noone's on the end yeah, but then
they turn around backwards andyou know all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But yeah, whatever no , you look good, no matter what.
Thank you, I know what to say.
Yeah, he knows what to sayexactly okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
So I want to touch really quick on two things.
I want to touch on what toexpect right after you have your
lip blushing, but then I justwant to talk about your organ
massage for a couple minutesbefore we wrap.
Yes, so tell me, I would loveto do this.
Okay, so tell me about theafter.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yeah, Exactly the opposite.
Aftercare than eyebrows andeyeliner Exactly the opposite.
Eyebr than eyebrows and eyeliner, exactly the opposite eyebrows
eyeliner.
We have dry healing for 10 daysand we give you know like to
the people the package you knowlike to to do whatever they need
to do for the 10 days.
Uh, the lips where they need toaccept, expect that to be a
little bit, you know like,fuller and a little bit you know
(19:50):
like like you said.
You know, oh, my god, I wish tobe like this, you know like
puffy and all that stuff Alittle bit, not too much.
They need to do a moist 10 daysafter care.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
We give them something special, you know,
like they use for their lips.
But if they don't use this orwe don't have to give them, or
whatever they lost it orwhatever the best thing to use
is Aquaphor.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Aquaphor is fantastic .
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Fantastic.
You don't use neosporin, youdon't use the other creams that
they have not they are not badcreams, but it's not good for
the open skin for your lips.
They also make my lips peelexactly you don't want.
You don't want antibiotics andall that creams.
They have something.
Aquaphor is the best 10 daysmoist with aquaphor 10, day 10,
10 times per day.
What like?
(20:36):
You wake up in the middle ofthe night to go to the, to the
toilet, to the rest.
Moist your lips like it's themost important.
In day four, day five, yourlips are gonna look gorgeous.
In day 15, you will have thefinal color right now you said
about the organ massage, and I'mso excited about this because
I'm telling you, organ massageis the best thing you can have
(20:58):
in your life and the mostimportant thing, like I said to
Daria yes, I am because I knowwhat it is.
I'm doing massage for my musclesbecause of the sports, my whole
life, once per week, twice perweek.
Why am I doing it?
Because I have so muchinflammation, because I'm I'm
working hard, I'm working outvery hard, so I want to remove
(21:19):
the inflammation from my musclesto feel better.
I'm doing training the next day.
So what I did?
I sit my way.
What I did for my organs 49years?
What I did for my organs 45years?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
nothing stagnant, stagnant.
So much stuff in there.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
If I don't touch my liver, if I don't massage my
liver to my liver to bring bloodflow and remove my toxins, if I
don't touch my gut bladder tobring bile for my gut, if I
don't touch and massage my gutand my small and large intense.
I'm sorry with my English, mysmall and large intense.
(21:56):
I'm sorry with my English, mysmall and large intense.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
How I will remove all that stuff that they stagnant
all these years.
So the most important thing isthe organ massage and I said to
my clients when they came also,if you want, you can do blood
exams and check your kidneys andyour liver levels and how they
look, and then do it again twomonths after the organ massage,
every week, and you will see thedifference with the results,
(22:22):
because I healed my liver mepersonally.
I have always very high liverin my life.
And the last six months.
I have the best numbers in mylife.
So the most important thing isthe organ massage.
I recommend to everyone,everyone, organ massage, do you?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
do this out of your office too?
Yes, oh, okay, good, oh, that'sgood to know, because I want to
come see you.
I also wanted to ask you tooabout that.
Do you think, do you feel likepeople store a lot of emotion in
their organs, so do you, do yousee that?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I touch my love.
I start with the hands and thenI go to the organs and then I
go to the foot and I see all thecombination you know like when
I touch.
You know like the blood, theblood the blood gut blotter here
and when.
I touch the gut blotter and thefoot how I know the client, she
will feel crazy sensitive withher gut blotter here.
Yeah, so everything isconnected.
(23:13):
And when your organs doesn'twork good, definitely the client
.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
100% is emotional yeah affect everything you know
how every actually you can tellby like talking with a person,
like you can understand and scanlike their like emotional state
.
You know like if they haveproblem with liver it's anger?
Yes, you know like if they havewhat else, like I'm like now I
(23:42):
cannot remember of the on top ofthe head anxiety stress.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You know like like I'm working.
I'm working with my client andI touch the spleen.
I start doing a little bitmassage for the spleen and the
client feels uncomfortable.
I say you feel uncomfortable?
Yes, did you have antibioticsor ibuprofen the last 24 hours?
(24:08):
Yes, I am with antibiotics,like I know what happened.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
When I touch their organs, I know what happened in
their life.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Wow, that's really amazing.
Yeah, I don't know whathappened in their life.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's really amazing yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know why people haven't done this more.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I'm telling you, it's new yeah.
And it's the most importantthing you can have I'm doing.
If I say to the people, becauseI'm doing every week, I'm doing
massage for my muscles, youknow like I'm bringing massage
in my house.
So if you do one per weekmassage, you need twice per week
your organs.
This important is your organs.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
So how often would you recommend somebody does?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
First of all, I don't , I don't.
If I don't touch you, I cannotrecommend I touch.
If I touch Daria, daria, she'seating all that stuff.
She has the perfect organs.
I'm doing her organ massage andI feel everything, I touch
(25:04):
everything and she has theperfect organs.
Another client I cannot eventouch.
I have to work one hour just tofeel, to, to, to relax, to
relax your muscles and relaxwhen I touch you.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I can tell you, but I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
But I will tell you the other thing I'm doing
Daria's massage, organ massage,and she has the perfect organs.
And then three days later shehas one meeting for the business
and she's so stressful aboutthe products that they will not
arrive in time.
The production here and allthat.
And the first thing that sheasked for me is organ massage.
(25:35):
The other thing that I will tellyou that I'm so, so happy.
My kids and I swear to God Inever say lies my kids, I start
to my eight-year-old son and tomy four-year-old son, organ
massage for three minutes whenthey have sensitive gut and they
want to go to the restroom andall that stuff.
Now, I swear to God, when theyfeel sensitive with their
(25:56):
stomach, they came to me andthey said daddy massage, daddy
massage, I'm doing massage.
In five minutes they are in therestroom, wow.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I swear to God we're going to have to go over there
next time we're constipated.
Absolutely, we have to.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
My grandmother used to do all those things she
learned back in the village,just like tapping stomach or
whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yes, self-massage.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So it makes sense and it's like that's fascinating my
office visit one of the, theowner of the the four.
She has four clinics in theworld Spain, Austria retreat
(26:36):
medical facility like high end.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So they are doing organ massage.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They are doing organ massage in their clinic so I
finished organ massage with herand I swear to God.
She said I want you to come andtrain my staff.
They are not doing what you aredoing Because I learned from
Russia and my teacher taught methat you cannot just touch the
organs.
I think you need to go.
What is?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
different that Costas is doing.
It's like he really tap in intoyour organs.
It's not just abdominal massage.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
She speaks good.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
English.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Some people do like your belly massage, lymphatic.
You know drainage, so he's notonly like moving the lymph.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And it's amazing, even if you work, work, you know
soft and all that stuff, but hetap in into the organs
specifically, he spends time.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's like a one hour only organ massage.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know like focus on reflexology, you know he
started with that, but like it'sfocused like I teach you also
how you will breathe.
So yeah, the way that I teachyou how you breathe, you will
allow me to go closer to yourorgan.
I want to touch your organs.
I want to remove the stagnant,I want to remove the toxins.
I need to touch, I need to opena little bit your ribs, I need
(27:54):
to give space over there foryour organs to breathe and blood
flow.
You know like.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Help us to remove all that stuff.
We both need to see you.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
We do you know like, help us to remove all that stuff
.
We both need to see you.
We do everyone.
Everyone.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
This is fantastic we do have to wrap up yes for a
second.
I was going to say I want to goin and take your organs either
way, as long as you remove them,it's a different show.
Yeah, or harvest them, yeah,yeah but it makes sense that you
want to the breathing to helppeople relax, so then you can
get in closer yes so yeah, butlet's do.
We have to have them back again, because this I think we just
(28:27):
touched.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
I told you they were going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, I know uh and then um.
Can people find you at the sameplace?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
on social media.
It's different social media Iam.
I mean the instagram, but it'sthe the same place.
And the golden brows, goldenbrows start there for eyebrows
lips lash you
Speaker 4 (28:46):
know, like the eyeliner, everything and then
angel organ sanctuary, andthat's on Instagram too.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I think I just started following they want to
check out his work.
We're gonna put yourinformation, everything at the
bottom, so yeah well, thank youguys, so much for coming.
Thank you, it was so fun.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It was fun.
It's like a very, very naturalconversation, very natural we
went for dinner.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
you know, like we were talking about our stories,
Except for I'm still hungry.
We have a lot of stories If youwant we can go more?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, absolutely, we'll definitely have you back
for sure, definitely All right,so this probably be out next
week and then the week after,and they'll be out at 3 am For
the East Coast crowd.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
For the East Coast crowd yeah, it gets up at 6.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, and that's it.
So we'll see you guys next weekand take care, bye.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Thank you Bye.
Thank you Bye guys.
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