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Your face is talking, but are you listening to what it's saying about your emotions? Stress isn't just affecting your mental health—it's showing up on your skin in the form of breakouts, inflammation, and other issues that can feel impossible to control.

In this compelling exploration of emotional acne, licensed esthetician Nicky Davis Jr., Comedian Ric Rosario and cohost/Sherpa/set decorator/Comedian Sandro Iocolano break down the fascinating science behind why stress manifests on your skin. She explains how your body's stress response triggers hormones like cortisol and CRH that directly impact your skin's oil production and barrier function, creating the perfect storm for breakouts.

The evidence is clear—studies from Singapore and Saudi Arabia have confirmed the direct link between stress levels and acne severity in college students during exam periods. This isn't just anecdotal; it's scientifically proven that your emotional state can trigger significant changes in your skin.

But this isn't just about understanding the problem—it's about solutions. Discover why certain ingredients like niacinamide, azelaic acid, and ceramides are particularly effective for stress-related skin issues. Learn proper techniques for addressing breakouts without making them worse (hint: direction matters when extracting a pimple!). Plus, explore holistic approaches including adaptogens, magnesium supplementation, and facial massage that address both the internal and external manifestations of stress.

The episode also tackles the frustrating cycle of skin picking as a stress response—and how this self-soothing behavior actually perpetuates the problem. With practical tips and entertaining personal stories (including recurring pre-date pimples!), this conversation offers both validation and actionable advice for anyone struggling with the skin-emotion connection.

Ready to break the cycle of stress and skin problems? Subscribe to Sex, Drugs and Skincare for expert advice delivered with humor and heart. Your skin—and your stress levels—will thank you!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Hey, welcome back to Sex, drugsand Skincare.
I'm Nikki Davis Jr.
Again.
I'm wearing the same outfit aslast time because we're not
taping these back to back.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
We're not doing that.
No, no.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're doing it and Alex goes no.
Welcome to the new half hourformat.
Thank you, you're welcome.
I'm nikki davis jr.
Licensed esthetician, stand-upwait.
Licensed comedian, stand-upesthetician uh, 25 years.
Uh, this is the only podcastwith skincare and comedy yeah,
everyone else is like.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The other podcasts are not about skincare, not
about comedy.
Um, I think there's an snlpodcast out there and that's it.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
We really have no competition no, there's only
three other podcasts that exist,I think.
So yeah, this is my uh.
By the way, I didn't introduceyou in the last one.
A co-host, slash sherpa,boyfriend, um, all around great
guy.
How did you know that?
I?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
was slashes, sherpa from guns and roses did you know
that?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I saw you carrying a big bag behind him.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, that's my Saul bag.
His name is Saul.
Oh, that's right, I forgot thatis his name Sandro Yocolano.
Thank you very much, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh, yeah, snaps, I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Thank you.
Thank you our guest, huh, ourguest.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Our guest.
Oh yeah, he was snapping, hewas like doing like a like I
feel like we just a littlespoken word if we had more time.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Whatever happened to spokenword, Do people still do those?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I don't think I think they just think of them now.
Good, save time.
It's like you're in a club.
You're like, oh god, it'samazing how fast we can.

(01:54):
Be not funny, we just like getright into it, that's so much.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
everything is, if you just, if you just say you're
doing something and you do thisover here, nonsense can happen,
happen, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
And people are like oh my God, that's so true.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Nothing was said?
Nothing was said, you just haveto pretend like something's
going on.
Well, why don't we have youbring out our next guest?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
today.
Oh man, I like your intros alot.
This is another guest who'sbeen on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Sorry, I touched your fingers.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Oh, sorry about yeah another, this next, come on, I'm
trying to introduce people heresorry, okay, so this next guest
is uh, I hit her off camerasometimes a little bit off
camera.
Oh, it's off camera.
This next guest has been here.
Another another repeat guest.
This is, I think, a three orfour timer maybe yeah, is this
your third or fourth time?
I think, third third time.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, can I talk?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
yeah, you can talk yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, our guests justfound out they could speak.
This is pretty amazing.
This is a great awakening forhim.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I didn't know if I was supposed to be quiet.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Never, no, no, no, you're always welcome.
I'm always learning.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
You deserve to be heard and seen, my friend.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Always, but only when you want to.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
We love you so much.
Yes, um, we're gonna adopt you,we're gonna.
Well, he's, he's one of thefunniest people I know and he's
such a sweetheart and he's areally good person as well as a
really funny comedian.
Uh, he works at, he works inthe comedy club.
He's a fantastic sound dude.
He's just a good guy all around.
He's an awesome drummer.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Please give it up for rick rosario yay, magically I'm
here now, yeah, yeah that'sgonna be the theme of the show
okay so please let this thecamera be on sondra right now,
as he's leaning over pretendinglike nobody can see him eating
the cookies that rick broughtwell, so I just want to.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't want to crunch on the mic oh, okay
because then I'll end up eatingthe mic.
I lose, I don't know where tostop i't know.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I just looked over and you look like a little kid
just trying to hide your cookies.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh yeah, I didn't eat anything.
There's powder donuts all overmy face.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
You guys are cute.
Thanks again for being here.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
No, Rick, seriously.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Thank you for being here.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yes, thank, thank you , thank you it was very serious.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Well, yeah, I want to let them know.
So, I'm going to let you pickyour topic, so you get a choice
of these three here.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Also, I'll pick four.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
You want four Interesting.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Mick.
Rick is Mick because he's Irishnow, but Rick picked the middle
one, but he's far from beingthe middle of the road anything,
because you are your own personand rick is very, very
polarizing.
He has a lot of political views.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
No one ever thanks for giving me a platform uh, to
get into it, we're gonna, thisis gonna be a, it's gonna be a
tough episode to watch.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Your topic is geopolitical climate and skin
care.
All right, so read your topic.
What's your topic?
Also, cookies are excellent andskin care All right so read
your topic.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
What's your topic?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Also, cookies are excellent for skin care right.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Oh, absolutely Always .

Speaker 2 (04:50):
These are worth it though because these are
deliciously buttery Oohemotional acne.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, emotional acne for 500.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Is that like verbal diarrhea?
People would say like, oh, youtalk too much, but what is
emotional acne?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Are you asking me for real?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
For real.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh well it is a real thing, oh sorry.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
For real.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
It is a real thing.
We're going to talk today abouthow stress can literally jack
up your skin, and what to doinstead of spiraling and picking
it.
Oh, I love this.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Thank you, Rick.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, yes, that has to be the thumbnail.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It has to be yeah For my whole life actually.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I love that he's holding up a sign if you're
listening and not watching, doyou resonate with emotional acne
?
I don't know if I've heard this.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I don't break out, but well, I do have some stories
about acne, but not like acne.
Acne, I've gotten.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I've had not emotional acne, but I've uh,
hives and things from beingstressed or from, like you know,
feeling right, so that's inthat kind of breakout, but not
like that's not really acne butyes okay, that's um, that's
urticaria oh okay, oh yeah, Ilumped.
I lumped acne and breakout thesame thing, but that's not the
same thing acne and breakout is,but like oh, because you say

(05:57):
you broke out.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I got broke out in high okay yeah, this is more
like um, like it's in your poreand you that stimulate your
pores to get infected orwhatever.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Stress will do that.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Stress will do that, for sure.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
It makes your pores sad.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
So it's not in just your head.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
The sebaceous glands.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yes, the sebaceous glands oh dude they're super
sebaceous.
That's really-.
Oh, dude yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
It's like new medicine.
It's like dude yeah, that'slike new medicine.
It's like dude Like oh man, allright, come back in two days
and put some cream on it.
Okay, good one, Nikki,unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Actually, I wasn't listening to the first half of
your sentence so.
I was trying to figure out whatyou were talking about.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's like yeah, bring everything off camera, on
camera.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, the part where I don't yeah, exactly where I
only listen to half a cent at atime.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Put ointment on it or cream.
Cream that was.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
If you like it, you got to put a cream on it.
Cream, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's general rule of thumb.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Cream Mm-hmm yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
If you like it, put a cream on it.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
So emotional skincare ritualsalso we're going to talk about
that actually can help you, andI wanted to bring up one time
that happened many times.
There was a guy that I loved,mitch Kern.
He was like the only guy whodrove a motorcycle and my dad

(07:19):
hated him, so that made me justlove him.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Most people ride motorcycles.
For somebody to drive one,you're probably the only person
to drive one.
Do you have a steering wheel onthere?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
mitch is such a weird guy he was in my high school
and uh and I I was in love withhim because he was such a bad
boy.
But anytime I knew I was gonnasee him three days beforehand I
would get a humongous pimpleright underneath my nose like
the kind that could talk.
It's a big tell yeah it'sstress and that's like this is
your stomach point right here.
So it was like digestive.

(07:49):
I was probably like, oh my God,I'm going to see him, and so
gross.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Would he like pass by you and say, hey, what's up?
And then you'd be like, oh,don't look at me.
Yeah, I'm just creating mycomputers.
I don't even think he noticed.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, no Because no, I would have plans with him, oh,
okay.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And as soon as I knew I was going to have a plan with
him.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
So you would have that thing on your right here
and you would break out becauseyour stomach would be like
what's worse, having that hereor having the kind of stomach
thing where you have irritablebowels around them and you just
fart all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
What around them and you just fart all the time.
What's worse?
Having this year?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
or just ripping farts , rick.
What do you think, rick?
It's all bad.
Okay, that's the best answer.
I guess that's why I avoid, uh,that kind of interaction.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know the possibility of romance.
No, thank you, I'd rather justsave myself uh the embarrassment
it's a health thing.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, it is a health thing.
Thank you, nicky, you'rewelcome.
It's a health thing I canidentify with.
Is a health thing?
Thank you, nikki, you'rewelcome.
It's a health thing.
I can identify with, that forsure.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, and no other reason.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, you take good care of yourself by not dating
anybody ever.
Yes, take care of yourself.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Don't date anybody.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Words to live by yeah , Okay so.
And how long would that last onyour face?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
It would last a long freaking time.
Anytime I've ever gotten apimple, it's lasted for like a
month because it doesn't come tothe surface.
With me I have a scar here on apimple that I didn't touch 24
years ago.
I don't know if you can seethat little scar there.
And it wouldn't go away.
It never came to a head, but itleft a scar, so thank God I
didn't have acne as a teenager.

(09:22):
Yeah, oh, so like thank god Ididn't have acne as a teenager.
Yeah, I would just get like one.
You weren't an acne person,were you uh?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
only when I ate poorly okay if I ate poorly,
then my skin would get bad.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, it would react.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Um, so did your, did anyone know about this?
Tell like, like if they saw itwith somebody that you know,
like your family or friends orsomebody you say like, oh, you
saw that guy again becauseyou're you got.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Your face is telling that would make sense, except
for I didn't really talk to myfamily very much.
Thank you very much, rick I'msorry no, um, yeah, I mean it's
if somebody were actuallylooking at my face.
I did have that happen a lot,where people would be like, oh
my god, you haveple.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh, but they wouldn't know why.
No, they wouldn't know why?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, this is the Mitch zit Like if you're playing
cards and playing poker andthey look at your face and be
like you, like somebody don'tyou.
What?
No, I don't.
Are there any studies?
That's a great question.
Sandra, in Singapore they didsome studies on some college

(10:25):
students, where they actuallytracked the students during exam
season, which is obviouslygoing to be super stressful, and
the researchers found a verydirect correlation between
stress levels and acne flare-ups.
So even though their oilproduction didn't go up for
whatever reason, it still causedacne flare-ups, and so the

(10:47):
stress is literally causing thebreakouts, even when you're
doing everything else right.
So I'm wondering if that has todo with, like cortisol.
You're like into the cortisolthing now too, right?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I thought I was.
Maybe I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, cortisol too.
Right, like I thought I was,maybe I don't even know.
Yeah, cortisol, it's like whenyou get stressed out and then,
um, your body produces thishormone that makes you hold fat,
it makes you um, oh yeah, youcan't sleep I'm way into that.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're in cortisol, that's my jam I think, yeah, I
do caffeine.
I have a lot of caffeine thatreleases cortisol.
That does it makes youstimulate cortisol.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yes, not getting enough sleep will stimulate
cortisol, and cortisol also willmake you eat more things that
aren't good for you yeah, it's aspiral it is now you're
speaking my language, the spiralham

Speaker 2 (11:42):
or like a, a cinnamon , a cinnamon bun.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
They're all spirals, that is true it's a good point,
rick and cortisol will make youeat both of those things yeah,
wow.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
So you think that I think the food and drug
administration know this?
I think that they, I think theywant to see food.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I knew it uh, another study that looked at female med
students in saudi arabia.
I'm going way out there now.
They were super smartapparently I don't know who
qualified them as that Superstressed, and the ones with the
higher stress levels hadsignificantly worse acne.
So yeah, being emotionallyoverwhelmed is absolutely good.
It's going to show on your face.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Not just with your expression.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Do I have a breakout right now?
No, not at all.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You don't really show Like.
You always look happy.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, you always look happy and well put together.
I like the stash I shaved andthe oh you did.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, I'll send you a photo.
You can put it up.
Yeah, the way I lookedyesterday.
Okay.
It grows that fast big oldbeard.
Oh yeah, I didn't, you trimmedit, I didn't shave for like two
months.
Oh wow, so we just had thisenormous are you protesting?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I wasn't gonna talk about it, but okay, well, dude,
sorry, but I mean it's obvious,like we're shooting in 4k.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Please downscale this to 1080 for my sake.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
No, I think I have some like nicks or whatever no,
I don't see any of that.
No, you look good, that's all Isee.
You look rugged, you lookrugged and you have like that
like that, that scruff lookthank you.
He looks like a nice guy, buthe just he's got an edge.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Easy, you're edgy, yeah, yeah exactly you might
pack a knife like motorcycles,even though you don't have one
and I give make people get acnewhen I ride, when I drive my
motorcycle right, yeah, stresseverybody out.
Yeah, here comes rick again, Ibet somebody would be stressed
out if I rode a because I can'tdrive.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Oh my god, I'm so worried for you.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
He called it driving too, by the way he goes, because
I can't drive a motorcycle well, I know, but thank you, okay,
you and lance fine who's lance?
Who's lance?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
lance bass, the guy you're attracted to lance bass.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
What's his name?
Mitch kern head bird lance?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I think mitch and lance are probably the same
quality of name, I think becauselance is like what you do to a
pimple and m Mitch, is what youdo to a zit.
No, no, not at all.
All right, don't mention Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So when you're stressed out, your body releases
a hormone called CRH.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I have to read it Corticotropin-releasing hormone,
and that tells your skin topump out more oil, right?
So on top of that, the cortisolwill weaken your skin to pump
out more oil, right?
So, on top of that, thecortisol will weaken your skin
barrier, um, and then it makesthe inflammation even worse.
So you've got all of this goingon at the same time.
Um, and then you add bacteriaand then you start.
This is where this, the thecycle, comes around.

(14:36):
You start picking it and nowyou've got like a full-on loop
of like stress, picking acne andrinse and repeat.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Is that what the emotional acne juice is?
It's just cortisol.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh, inside the pimple .
Seabomb or something like thatoh no, pus, is it, pus, it's pus
.
Yeah, it's just like.
Yeah, it's like an infection.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
The nerve.
This is why I'm annoyed with mybody.
I just I wish I didn't generatepus.
Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's supposed to be a healthy thing.
Right, it is.
It's your white blood cellsattacking your yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
So it's doing good.
It's doing good, but it's justannoying in the moment to like
yes, yeah.
Deal with pus in your hand.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
When do you, how often do you have pus in your
hand?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Not often, okay, it's happened enough times to where
I have the memory of being like.
Why is this happening?
Because I just have to wash myhands for 20 minutes or
something.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Where was the pus coming from?
If you don't mind me asking,that's a good question, I don't
remember.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
I feel like whenever you pop something to, I don't
let stuff sit, I pop them, right, yeah, the pimples I pop like
pussy things like okay, like agrowth.
I'll knock it out.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Rick gets his hands dirty, I get my hands dirty and
he doesn't.
He goes.
You know what?
Let me see what I can find outabout this.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I lance it, I mitch it, you mitch it, he gets it.
Mitch, if you're listening, I'mvery sorry, don't be a lance.
Let me see what I can find outabout this.
I Lance it, I Mitch it, youMitch it, mitch it.
See, he gets it.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Mitch, if you're listening, I'm very sorry, don't
be a Lance.
Yeah, don't be a Lance, exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's a poll.
We're doing Mitch or Lance.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
What's that?
Yeah, it's a poll.
Yeah, yeah, write in thecomments whether you're a.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Be joust about it.
Be, joust Because we're Lansing.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Oh right, oh man that's good.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Thank you very much.
That's also another good improv.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Big improv.
Yeah, oh, that's good.
When you said Lance Bantz, Iactually thought you meant Lance
, our friend Lance.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I don't have a friend , lance, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Lance Bantz-topolis.
No, no, oh you mean.
Glance, no, glance, glance.
Alan, oh, I haven't seen him ina while.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, Well, yeah, but he still exists.
He does, but he's not really afriend of mine, oh, okay, well,
I mean, you know I was friendlywith him.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's what I'm saying.
I'm friendly, but I can't calleverybody a friend.
There's just like a limitedamount of space here.
Is this a human?
He's a very funny comedian.
I don't think he's a pimple.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Okay, all right, let's see what else we need to
talk about.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Rick's like why contribute so much to the
conversation.
You do, yeah, you do.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, my God, fill in the blanks while I'm reading my
notes here.
So let's see how emotionalstress leads to self-soothing
behaviors like skin picking.
I guess that is a self-soothingbehavior.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Right.
It's picking your skinSatisfying and that constitutes
emotional acne.
It's like you get stressed outand you pick your skin and then
it kind of and then it getsworse, and it gets worse and
worse.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I noticed that when I try to like feel the stuff, I
get sometimes pimples in myscalp.
I feel them and they hurt, somy natural instinct is to pick
them.
But then I'll notice like twodays later I'll have another one
, like next to the one where itwas.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
God, yeah, because you're really not supposed to
pick them, especially if they'rered.
Don't pick a pimple if it'ssuper red on the bottom, because
it will burst, going the otherdirection on the inside, and
then you can risk getting a scarand or infecting other pores
around it.
Always, if you have a pimple,here's the pimple, the red part.
If it's red, try not to get it.
Then it's calming down, butit's got the white thing.

(18:13):
Then you go sideways into it,not straight down.
Oh, wow, interesting.
Otherwise you're pushing thebacteria right back into the
pore.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
What do you use?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
You could use a lancet Toothpick.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, toothpick.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Or a chopstick, chopstick, chopstick, I don't
know.
Big zits, big zits, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Interesting.
So you have a little lance.
What if you have a needle andkind of sterilize?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
it If it's super sterilized, super sterile, yes,
all right, not like half sterile.
Not half sterile, super sterile.
You just pulled it out rightbefore it's three quarters
sterile.
Exactly.
But yeah, and you always wantto go sideways, sideways, and
then you can just go like justas a little bit, and then the
white stuff comes off and thenleave it If it hurts.

(18:57):
You know that it's toosensitive to squeeze.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh, really yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Okay, yeah, that's a rule of thumb.
You don't seem like.
I don't think I've ever seenyou with a breakout, though.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, but I my.
You know, my skin tells a story, doesn't it?
I mean you look like a normalperson, for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
What story does your skin tell?
I?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
think because I have used over the months that I've
been coming.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Tell me about that, because we have a little bit of
extra time.
Yeah, what have you?
Been reading lately what thingshave I been telling you that
you've been doing?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
To go back to one of the last episodes for the
viewers, we were talking aboutcinnamon, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm taking a lot of cinnamon.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I don't know if that helps the skin or not, but well,
it helps your blood sugar, sothat could help.
Yeah, that was anotherconversation, I guess.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
But no, no, it all ties in together, but that's
also emotional too because, ifit's because we're talking about
cinnamon and blood sugar, whichbecause that episode it was
about sugar sugar on skin careand that's also self-soothing
and then emotional, which causedyou to eat more, which I think
because.
Yeah, because if you're eatingstuff and you're having a
breakout, that's still emotionalacne.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, because you're causing it you're causing and
your body with the stress levelis coming out too and you used
to eat a lot of sugar as a kid,right?
Oh my god, I used to eat it outof the bag and I think we
talked about this probably.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think so it sounds and familiar.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
And then when you saw what was his name Lance Bass.
When you just saw Penn andTellers show up, and she used to
get a little pimple.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Penn and Tellers.
Oh, mitch Kern, mitch Kern, yougot to remember these people.
I don't have to, I know.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
But I will.
What if you watch his?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That would be amazing .

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Did watches.
That would be amazing.
Did you get a little something?
I know I feel like I just didactually a little bit.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, that was a very strange relationship.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I'm getting something now too.
Yeah, are you?
Oh, shit, oh no, okay.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
So hormones, blood sugar and sleep are also going
to get dysregulated when you'restressed out, so that is also
going to lead up to someflare-ups.
So what can you do to sort ofturn that around right?
So we want to know like I can'tjust leave you with you know,
this is the shit that happens.
So you can do things, uh, likeyou use niacinamide which

(21:22):
reduces, uh, inflammation.
That's, I think, usually likein a serum and a cream, or a
cream.
It calms the redness.
Um, I believe that's a bvitamin I've heard that yeah,
niacin yeah, because niacinusually be by at any time I've
taken niacin.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
That's when my skin gets super red and I'll start
sweating right like I don't knowif it's because it's supposed
to open up your um like a bloodlike a vasodilator which opens
up, like your blood vessels.
Um, but that's what they wouldhave.
It was like tingling all overyour skin.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I took that one time and forgot and I went to wash
this to clean the shower and Iturned.
I was red and I thought I washaving like an allergic reaction
and I called my boyfriend's momand she took me to the hospital
and then I realized I took Iforgot that I took niacin, yeah,
so stupid.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
So ni niacin will do that.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
It sounds very ceremonial, it kind of is,
because it's for detoxing.
Yeah, oh nice, you know whotakes it.
A lot is um the, uh the.
What are those people um uh?
Scientologists, scientologistsyeah yeah, they pop niacin and
then you sit in this in a saunato sweat out all of the uh, the
drugs and shit, and then asyou're sitting and sweating
everything out and getting yoursystem, somebody's next to you
writing down all of the drugsand shit.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
And then, as you're sitting there sweating
everything out and getting yoursystem, somebody's next to you
writing down all of your deepest, darkest secrets.
And everything to blackmail you, but it's a good cleansing for
them, because they get all yourstuff, all your information.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
I think I've had too much niacin before and I felt
like you joined ScientologySpikes.
Oh, I felt like joiningsomething.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Oh really I felt like spikes were coming out of my
skin.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, that sounds about right yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
It's like tingly, yeah, yeah it feels unnatural.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
But then you're like wait, why is this happening?
You're like, okay, this is good.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Maybe it's burning through something.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm not exactly sure what it does was reborn, if
you're listening, not watching.
Rick is a very tough lookingguy.
Before niason he was a stonecold killer, he was a contract
murderer, and after niason hejust shed all that out and he's
a sweetheart now there it is,it's, it's all out in public now
I know we had.
No, that's it.
We should have rehearsed, sowe're just sharing secrets.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Now I know, yeah, okay, cool, perfect, awesome.
Sandro's next.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
No, yeah, I'm already in a cult.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
This podcast is really about secrets, right?
I feel like when I shake,something rattles.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, there's something going on back there.
I noticed it.
We're at the 25 minute mark.
There's something back therethat's right on the top.
I think it'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, you're good, Everything on.
I see it right now, buteverything on there is taped
down until it's not.
So you're good.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Should I move more or less Tell?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
us in the comments.
Yeah, exactly, tell us in thecomments.
You tell us in the comments.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
We're just dictating what we should do next.
Yeah, there's podcasts likethat, right?
Well, I mean, they do that.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Anything to get somebody to write something in
the comments would be wonderful.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Just write in the comments, tell us what we should
have done.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Okay, so we're getting close to wrapping up.
So things like azelaic acid,which is great for acne and
pigmentation because the acne isgoing to leave a little red
spot a lot of times, ceramidesare in certain skincare products
.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
There's a product called Cera, something, yeah,
okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
That helps to repair the barrier for your stressed
out skin, which we were talkingabout barriers for your skin.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
In the last episode, the barrier reef Yep Barrier
reef Barrier reefer.
Oh yes, whoa, that's good.
Yeah, they got good green inthe ocean.
That's a seaweed, yeah, seaweed, yeah, seaweed.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
See, oh my god, that's what keep up with you
guys, I, I don't even know whatthe hell's going on.
You don't want to yeah, youknow, see you reefer madness,
there you go, there it is yeah,trying to keep up yeah that's
another good improv, yeah tryingto keep up yeah, yeah, that's a
good improv ones.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I'm trying to keep up and then adaptogens
either.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
You can put them on your skin and we did talk about
adaptogens, I think, last timewith the mushrooms you can also
take them internally yes, right,so like reishi ashwagandha
things like that to help too,and I take that stuff in my um
in the night drink that I drinkto try to help me sleep um, it's
a night night.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
It's Night Drink by Bob Seger.
Didn't talk about the NightDrink Night.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Drink my targeted ads now that I'm taking like Lion's
Mane and stuff and thesefocused mushrooms.
I've seen some people aretalking out against Ashwagandha.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Really it's like not good for you.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Oh, come on.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
For everything.
Where somebody says it's good,there's going to be somebody to
counter it.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Always, oh yeah, every single thing.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Are there any say anything specific about it, or
is it?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I guess you lose the joy of life or something.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
The quality of life.
What if it's?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
already gone because it just makes you like dull or
something.
That was what they said I don'tmean to and I might be
misconstruing it.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
This is kind of just what I remember off the top of
my head, but that's.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
But that's totally fine and not your fault, because
that's how the news andinformation is presented to us.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's very confusing.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Absolutely, and it's very bombarding.
It's almost like throwing itout there and it's like, okay,
now you guys find the facts.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Tell me what's right For an actual podcast.
I wanted to bring more solid,concrete stuff to the table.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, and you have more than anything that any news
source out there oh, good, good, good.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
You're also.
You're opening it up for peopleto do their own investigation?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Sure, because it's personal to each person.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, okay, so then magnesium is really good to help
with your stress levels.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Helps you go to sleep ?
Right, yeah, it helps you sleep.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It helps your muscles from being like spasming
Lymphatic drainage or gentlefacial massage, which is what I
do, and then while listening tobreakup songs.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
This is what AI does.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
And then just don't touch your face.
Basically, just put a stickeron your mirror that says please
do not touch your own face.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I've been doing it wrong the whole time.
Yeah, you've been doing itbackwards, yeah, can I give the
example that the AI gave us.
It said.
Put up a sticky note that saysnot today, satan.
That's right, not today.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Satan, that's right.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Tell them.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Is this a Christian-based?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
AI.
It's a Christian AI.
That's terrifying.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, ais are Christian now.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, it's going to be gonna be.
Yeah, it's not.
I mean jesus, that's goodimprov.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I'm wondering even, and this is, then we have to
wrap it up but like this is anightmare ritual.
Um, I was wondering if and Iasked ai this before and this is
completely off topic but whatif somebody like a christian uh,
you know, like a base ofpeoples just started like
putting in more and moreinformation into the ai database

(28:16):
?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
oh right, I wonder if it would start to lean towards
that yeah because it is just allof our collective information
right right

Speaker 2 (28:24):
yeah, right, I mean I .
I guess it would have to be putinto there unless they could
break it down, but I thinkeverything's already infected.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think you're probably right.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I think the computers also have viruses.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, all right, so let's just kill ourselves, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Actually don't.
That's good improv.
Before you do it, like andsubscribe.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Well, this was informative for me as well.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
And I really want to tell you how much I appreciate
you coming and bringing cookiestoday, as well, thank you.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yes, of course, the biscuits the the worst thing I
could have brought.
No, for like the topic thatwe're talking about, I I hope it
doesn't affect your skin Idon't think it will.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Okay, yeah and no, we'll, we will.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
We will not tell you if it does, oh well I, I kind of
want to know, you kind of wantto know I do want to know.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I don't think it'll affect the skin, I think.
I mean I've been todermatologist's office that have
literal candy, the one you usedto go to.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Oh my god, yeah, buckets and buckets of candy.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
So you're doing more in coffee.
Yeah, don't eat the whole box.
Yeah, I think that's just eatthe.
Don't eat the cookies inside,just eat the box, yeah exactly
that's what.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
When I first first learned about the birds and bees
, that's what my dad told medon't eat the whole box oh, that
makes so much sense now Rick,absolutely yeah, we're all
because you get full.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, I'm going to have to have a little talk with
my dad.
Yeah, well, it's going to bedifficult.
It's going to be, yeah, alright, well where can people find you
?

Speaker 2 (29:47):
where can people find you, Rick?
Where can people find you, Rick?

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I'm having lunch with Nikki and Sandro.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
That's where you can find me.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
All right, perfect.
He's going to be with us havinglunch and then after that.
You know people want to get toknow you after we have lunch, so
where can people find you?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
on social stuff, on socials just at Rick Rosario,
that works.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
R-I-C-R-I-C, R-O-S-A-R-I-O that's me yes.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
People love you on the socials.
By the way, you get morecomments and views and likes Of
the amount of views you get morelikes and comments than any
other guest.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Thank you, you're a ball of light.
You're a ball of light.
Yeah, we love you so much.
We love you guys.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Thank you percentage wise.
Yeah, we love you so much yeahman love you guys.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, thank you, dude all right.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Well, thanks for stopping in and, uh, we'll see
you guys next week, take care.
Thank you for being here, nikki.
Oh, thank you you're welcome.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thank you nikki.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, thank you, sandra thank you, nikki, thank
you okay, all right, get out.
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