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Ever wondered what's really behind those mysterious skin rashes, bumps, and flaky patches? Turns out, we're all walking around with fungi living on our bodies – and sometimes, they cause trouble. This episode takes you on a hilarious yet informative journey into the world of Malassezia, the fungus that inhabits 90% of human skin.

Four-time guest comedian Tammy Jo Dearon brings her signature wit to a surprisingly fascinating topic as we explore how these microscopic organisms can trigger everything from eczema to folliculitis when our immune systems overreact. We dive into the science of skin barriers, discussing how our protective layers can become compromised and what that means for our skin health. Tammy shares her personal experiences with fungal-related conditions, including how persistent treatment with ketoconazole finally helped regrow hair lost to alopecia.

The conversation weaves between serious skincare advice and laugh-out-loud moments, covering treatments ranging from medicated shampoos to vinegar baths (yes, really). We explore how these fungi thrive on our skin's natural oils and flourish in humid environments – explaining why some skin conditions worsen in certain climates or body areas. We also touch on the connection between autoimmune responses, stress, and fungal overgrowth, providing valuable insights for anyone struggling with persistent skin issues. Whether you're battling unexplained rashes, curious about the microbiome living on your skin, or just enjoy learning about the body's fascinating complexities, this episode delivers knowledge with a healthy dose of laughter. Subscribe now and join the only skincare show that successfully blends comedy with genuinely useful information about that amazing organ covering your entire body – your skin.

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something like that.

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to go to the C drive directoryand like-.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Anything with a colon.
It needs to be cleansed.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Even the semicolons sometimes.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
You just lost anybody under 40,.
By the way, what the fuck isDOS?
Yeah, I know, I don't even knowDOS is German.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's a German operating system.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
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There's somebody on Instagramwho does that, and I love it's
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guest?
Not at all, I'm excited.

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Oh, this first guest uh helped help to name you, I'm
just I want to give it out therebecause she deserves credit for
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She gave you a really goodperspective on how you should
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repeat guest because we deserveto have her.
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Speaker 1 (02:53):
I think she's a four-timer.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, only four-timer .

Speaker 1 (02:55):
You're the only four-timer.
I would love a blazer.
We were saving up for a watch,but a blazer's going to be a lot
more affordable.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's another podcast.
The blazers are usually here.
Hello, that kind of blazer Allright, so bring her out All
right.
She's a hilarious comedian.
She's a fantastic showrunner,she's a good person and I always
love the way she dresses andshe carries herself.
Please give it up for Tammy JoDearon.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yay Me, yay yay hi.
I magically appeared here and Iget the mic again.
Thank you, it's okay yeah, it'salright.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's why the microphone has the little, the
little padding on top of it.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Foam, yeah, padding hi, hi, thanks for coming.
I know that it wasn't superconvenient for you to come today
, so we really appreciate yourbeautiful presence here, as long
as I get that blazer for thefour-timer blazer four-timers
club.
I think we're gonna have tomake something.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I think we I'll wait till five-timers club.
Okay, all right, we'll do afive-timers, because I was gonna
say the four-timers club andthe five-timers club.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
There's a different color there and all depends on
you know what I mean we have tofigure out which is gonna be
which, yet, because, it's thefirst, which is which?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
So, tammy, you get to choose your topic today,
because we're doing four back toback.
This is very exciting, yeah, soyou pick a number between one
and four.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Here.
Wait, I want to touch him.
Okay, because there's likeenergy.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel the energy through the
numbers.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh no, I don't, I want this one.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is that what numerology is?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You feel number energy.
Today's topic is fungus.
This is very professional thisis exciting.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I have a lot to talk about we just took some fungus
mushroom pills, the adaptogenmushrooms not like the fungus
that I was thinking of, not the,the growth on the body fungus.
Not like the fungus that I wasthinking of.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Not the, the growth on the body fungus.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, but like the brain kind, not the one that
actually makes you go intoanother dimension kind yeah yeah
.
You took a brain fungus Likethe adaptogen mushrooms.
I guess is supposed to help.
How was it Did you microdose?
We're on them right now.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
No, you just take these right now.
Yeah, well, no, no, they're notlike psychedelic, no I know I
get it, yeah, but you don't.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
You don't microdose, like uh adapted.
Yeah, rishi, and oh like risethe brand, like that.
You uh corrected me.
I'm sorry, I just touched yourhand.
You mean, um, that's cute let'sgo to los feliz.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
You mean Los Feliz Did.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I do that no Okay, because I probably would.
Even though that's not correctto say Los.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Feliz.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
It isn't no, oh, los Feliz, right yeah.
I just say LF to be safe.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
LF, yeah, lf, Lofi, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And then they think oh, l.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
You.
I'm like no the letter and thenwe lose track, like we did just
now.
What did you say?
L-a-f-a?
I love your hair, by the way itlooks cute poking out of your
hat.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
It does look cute.
Oh, thank you, thank you verymuch L-A-F-A-N-G-A-S-E.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
L-A-F-A-N-G-A-S-E, fungi-s.
I'm not French, oh right.
Well, sorry, I am not French.
We're going to talk aboutfungus calls, and this is one I
don't know 100%, and I have it,we all have it actually but I
don't know 100% how to pronounceit, but it's Malassezia.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
OK.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Right and what it is.
I'm so glad I brought my neckpillow.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
I know.
She brought a pillow to rest,in case the topic was boring.
No, no, no, this is reallysuper exciting.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm here no, I'm really.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
If four-timer, let's do the four-timers club with
fungus, fungus come on.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
There's a fun.
It might get boring.
Like on a like on a plane.
That's what you thought I mightthink I'm on a flight right now
, I'm just gonna be likemeditating over there.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Tell us about malingase, okay.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Oh God, I love your interpretation of words
Malassezia.
Malassezia is a fungus that weall have.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
But if you either get an overgrowth of it or your
body is for some reason goinginto an autoimmune response,
which just means for some reasonyour body is attacking things
that it's not supposed to attack, you're going things like
rashes, like for example this,ie, ie this

Speaker 2 (07:10):
inland empire.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yes, yeah, and let me see the rash.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
You want to see.
Do you scratch it, don't berash.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh my god in the middle of the night I scratch it
so much it bleeds.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Sometimes I don't see it, just see like a little red,
all of this, and then it's onmy back.
It's.
It's probably not as bad as itnormally is.
This is a rash.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Your face has a rash.
Don't be rash.
That's what broke out were theeyes and the nose.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm just being weird.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yes, I do have bumps.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I don't know why I did that with my arm, because
you're on the fungi.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
What is the joke?
But I'm a fungi.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh yeah, I'm a fungi you all know it and if you don't
leave it in the comments, Ifyou don't know the joke.
Write it in the comments.
Write it in the comments, justwrite calm and then we'll know
all about the joke Calm.
Okay, okay, so it's triggering.
So autoimmune things there's.
Usually when you're stressedout, it can be triggered, but

(08:09):
they're not really sure exactlywhat triggers a lot of different
auto.
I mean there are so manydifferent autoimmune.
Give me an example of one.
Um, that's a really goodquestion.
Autoimmune would be uh, eczemais an autoimmune.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Oh, okay, alopecia.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Alopecia Autoimmune, which I've also suffered from
that in the past, yeah Nutrafol.
Nutrafol.
Oh, like the shampoo?
Well it's.
I thought it was a cereal.
It's hair growth.
Oh yeah, hair growth.
Well, it's growing back rightnow.
So I've been putting on um anantifungal and it's not it's not
like that I'm not that I'msuper, I'm not fungi, but like I
just my my body thinks thatit's it's time to eat all the

(08:45):
fungus and so it gets reallyinflamed and then, like it gets
this and this, and like, themore stressed out, the more I
can see it like what aboutcandida?
Candida.
Candida is just an overgrowth ofyeast in your system, but I'm
assuming if you had autoimmuneissues where your body wants to
attack anything that's foreignto be a fungi uh candida is a

(09:06):
fungus, right, or it's a yeastyeast that builds up I think
it's similar, though, yeah, andwe've talked about that before
and then your body will attackit because I'm on the
anti-candida food.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh, elimination plan, you'll feel better you'll have
like a lot less like brain foggyand stuff well, a lot of like
autoimmune stuff, isn't?
That can be also caused by likethe diet and things we eat so
by having all that stuff cancause like infections.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
That was ai.
Autoimmune thought that was AIautoimmune.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, that's why I've been asking for help for the
podcast Autoimmune diseases.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I think you're thinking of autoimmune tune.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Autoimmune tune.
Yes, that was it, the computersare making their own music.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
All right, so sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off
when you're back up singingMalassezia is on 90% of us, so I
don't know who the 10% is thatdoesn't have it.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Who wants to know them?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
anyways, I know Skinny people, so when it
overgrows, our immune systemoverreacts and it can trigger
things like eczema, folliculitis.
Folliculitis, it's a good word,right yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Oh, but maybe I do have that.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Did you get that?
You get like the little Bumps.
Those are probably yeast.
Also I used to have those as akid.
Yeah, I used to get them too.
I forget the name of them, yeah, but like picky bumps, right
Bumps.
What's a picky bump, you know?
Like little white bumps on theback of your arm and then you
pick them and then they turn redand then you can't wear
sleeveless shirts, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I don get them on top of my arms, you do, oh Okay.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, I want to see those later.
All right, so you can also getseborrheodermatitis, which I
have suffered from as well.
Oh my God, I know soSeborrheodermatitis.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Mm-hmm Right yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
She doesn't perform as much anymore but
Subcacophagal zones.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
fun reading lipid dependent.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Okay, so lipid dependent just means it lives on
?
I think it lives on certainoils no labial.
The other lips.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Labial dependency.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yes, I think Tammy has that.
I have that, that's mysexuality.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I'm a labial dependent, oh my.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
God, that's what you check off on your voter
registration.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I'm a labial I used to be labeled independent no
labial dependent.
Oh my God, that's what youcheck off on your voter
registration.
I'm a labial.
I used to be labeledindependent no labial
independence.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Get a tax break for that.
My sexuality is dependent onlabia I like that Intake D-O
Intake, yeah, not out.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Sure, outtakes are what's funny afterwards, when
things don't go right.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Like whoa, whoa, whoa , funny afterwards when things
don't go right.
Okay, so it's it thrives onyour oils of your skin, which is
what I think the lipid part,like liposuction is, like fat
oils, things like that.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
My favorite is the humid environments humid.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, humidity will also bring it out as well, which
could also um describe my lowerregion do you get a lot of
humidity down there?
Well, uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
You know what they say.
Once in Florida, always inFlorida the tropics.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
You can leave Florida .
I'm a very humid person butyour vagina will always be livid
.
When I get in the car, I'm warm.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I always steam up the car on my side.
Oh interesting, I'm very humid.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
You have a lot of.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
you bring your own ecosystem with you I have this
moly soppitant whatever it'scalled if you have it, you
should name it before somebodyelse does.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I think that's how you say it yeah, um, so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
So it can also trigger things like dandruff,
pit of reiis this versicolor, Ithink that's like little pits in
the skin are you sure?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
because I thought it had something to do with film
like technicolor.
Oh, because versicolor yes.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
And it can also folliculitis, which is like
little pussy, little red things,Pestules.
I've been getting zits in myscalp recently too.
I'm nasty.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I have so much going on right now.
I'm sorry.
Do you have a pestule?
Janet Jackson was talking aboutyou.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
What Nasty.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah nasty the whole time.
Okay, we got a good one.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Now we're going.
There's the teaser.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Started with janet put that pillow away for a
second, all right.
So I I looked up some of thelike the, the things that like
activate the cells, but honestlyit's gonna just sound like a
bunch of scientific jargon.
But, um, it says that up to 49of the ad patients.
What are they?
What's the ad?
Um?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
autoimmune after death deficiency patients?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't know.
After dark, after dark patients, uh, 80 have head and neck,
have a malassezia specific ige.
Okay, those are things that I'mnot the ige levels.
I guess they correlate um withthe flare severity.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
So flare severity right, that was when I when
remember that year when r RicFlair said he was going to
retire, uh-huh, and everybody'slike dude, don't do this to me.
And that's what they referredto as the flair severity.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So, severe.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Plus, he also had a bunch of fungus and that's why
he was going to retire thenature boy, exactly the nature
boy, yeah he didn't want to doant.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
That's another good improv Snooze.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
No, I go.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
That's another good improv.
Thank you very much.
Good improv.
Okay, can I say that after Isay thank you very much, you can
say anything you want.
Thank you very much Good improv, see, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
So then, things that you can do to get.
Oh my god, the hat is so goodif you're listening and not
watching.
The hat is even more electricthan the sweatshirt it was a
gift.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
It looks so fabulous.
I hope it was a gift.
I made it today.
It says I love.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Tammy Jo, on it.
Was it a gift to yourself?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I made it for myself no, it was given to me.
I want one okay, alright, wantone.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, all right, that was easy yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
That was gonna be a little more pushback on that,
but okay, well, you can go tothe store and buy one.
Oh my god, you guys, I'm so,I'm having a hot flash right now
, oh my gosh, good job.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, thank you, that's there you go.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Thank you, good improv um.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
So what's an ige level?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I don't know um.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
If you want to look it up, you can on your phone
while I talk about other, but Ihave taken this keton conazole
ketoconazole yeah, that's anantifungal I have taken that for
my anti-kandida okay, so thenit's.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I think kandida is also considered to be the fungus
and it won't go away.
It it eats sugar.
It's in your intestine likeit's in your digestive tract.
Okay, I'm just asking.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Me too.
Thank you, good impressionHashtag.
Yeah, I think it's in your Yep.
I don't want to say anythingbecause I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Okay, it can live in a lot of different systems in
your body.
The candida can just get all upin there.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
It causes a lot of problems.
It does, it causes geographictongue.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Tell me again about geographic tongue.
You told me about that before.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
In 12-step program they say did you do a geographic
Like?
Did you just move somewhereelse hoping that your life would
?
Be, the same.
And then when you arrive,you're like oh, I came with me,
right.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
My tongue is so miserable.
It even wants to leave my body,my tongue it's like you know,
it has like a white film but nota solid, so it's kind of like
it looks like a map.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh, okay, that's what it's geographically.
I don't think.
I don't see anything.
Yeah, no, I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Right, no that, the tongue being too big for the
mouth, so there's like littleridges.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
You can see that it's pushing up against teeth, it's
right yeah um that's probablyinflammation, and then the
geographic to the white stuff isprobably the candida, like
little um, yes, when they dieoff.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, little tongue scraper my well, yeah, I'm
healthier now because I've beenon it.
But my my wife calls it um uhinformation information
information.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I'm very informed right now.
I didn't realize that's whatthat was.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I thought people were just eating ricotta cheese, a
lot Like as a kid.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I thought it was just like a bunch of people just
always eating.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Ricotta tongue.
Ricotta tongue.
Yeah, I thought it was ricottatongue.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I'm not saying anything because I had something
really not good in my headabout that one.
Which one?
The ricotta tongue.
Well, having a yeast infectionon their tongue, oh, like, maybe
you caught it from anotherhuman.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Oh Nikki, what you are so dirty.
Wait a second, are you?
Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean tooffend your delicate
sensibilities.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Is that why, like my mom would say after she made
bread, she'd be like don't lickthe bread bowl after you're done
, because I was always like youknow, like the no, no, I used to
make it myself oh reallydifferent area.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Oh, oh right, yeah, you had your own system, I'd
make yeast.
Yeah, this is, I'm gonna beisn't that like a?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
isn't that like like a sourdough thing?
Is that what that?
Uh, or is that somethingdifferent?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
well, have you ever made?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
sourdough.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
No, but it's basically just leaving it out so
that it forms on its own itbecame quite a trend during the
pandemic yeah, my sister, one ofmy half sisters that I found,
started like a whole company oflike sourdough and you have to
have the starter right and it'sa lie, and is she doing that?
Yeah, I think she's still doingit.
Yeah, she lives in likeCarlsbad or something.
All right, I got to start abusiness right now.

(17:47):
I wish you your first customeryeah exactly, and you know how
she is Alina we love you.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
I've met her sister.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, have you met any of my?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
sisters.
No, you, I've met your sister.
Oh, you met her, I met hersister.
Okay, I was just curious.
This is confusing.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I have four sisters.
You do, yeah, I have twinsisters.
They're half sisters, the twoother half sisters.
So technically I have twosisters because I have four
halves and a half brother,that's that's some math right
there.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Old family.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Stephen Wright actually said that, so you have
to laugh at it.
Okay, I was laughing inside butlisten, here's my question.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Are you the youngest, the oldest?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
I am still the oldest of all of them.
Yeah, the, the, yeah, thesecond oldest one.
My dad impregnated three yearsafter me, and so I think he had
taken a little trip outside thestate of.
California and impregnated anIndian.
What?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
do you call a Native American woman?
Yes, we do call them that, the.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Navajo.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh yeah, yes A.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Navajo.
I'm Indian, you are.
Are you a Navajo?
No, oh, that's good.
I'm Choctaw, I'm Indian, youare.
Are you Navajo no?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh, oh, that's good, I'm Choctaw.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Are you really?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh, okay, that's really cool.
Irish, italian, american,indian.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Just like everyone.
All of those are just ragingalcoholics.
Oh my God.
And ragers, that makes yeah, ohyeah.
Not only are we alcohol, yeah,that's what I have.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
An orange county.
You learn that you smile whenyou're angry.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Oh yeah, oh yeah it's like, it's like being in the
south, but in orange county.
You're like how are you?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I'm full of rage of course we talk behind people's
backs.
We don't want to hurt theirfeelings bless their heart.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
That's very considerate she meant it I
believe it all right.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
So then, uh, what else?
What else can help?
Uh, or what else can help?
I help, but like enable thismore as like a barrier
dysfunction.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
What's a barrier dysfunction?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So I guess certain people have, like maybe you've
stripped your skin of certainbarriers that will protect your
skin from like just Like achemical peel.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, let's say your skin's ozone layer.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, right, yeah, but why would you strip the
barrier?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think if people over strip, you know what.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I don't know how it happens.
Maybe, I think chemical peel oha car accident.
He scrapes the whole thing offthe barrier.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I think it's more like not so much a physical
barrier in that sense, but likewhatever's living on your skin
somehow that gets sort of wipedaway and so everything.
All the other little systemsare running around.
They're able to get in therenow.
Remember one of our guestsrecently.
She had something called abiofilm.
And so she couldn't get theacne, because each of the little

(20:25):
acne bacterias had its ownlittle ecosystem around it.
So even taking what is thatdrug Accutane Accutane couldn't
even help her, because thebiofilm was actually protecting
her acne.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
The organism, yeah, Kind of like the National Guard.
Who are they protecting theprotesters or the government?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, that's a really good question that needs to be
answered, yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
so the biofilm, yeah now barrier disorder is a
biological context.
Refers to the compromisedfunctional function of an
epithelial barrier, which isfunctional and also a layer that
protects the body from externalagents okay so basically it's
just that area of it.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Epithelial cells are your skin.
Anything that turns overepithelial cells, Exterior
agents like 007.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
Okay, so we talked about.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Of the interior exterior.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I'm the exterior agent.
No, I sound cockney.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Chimchimory.
Hello, I'm 007.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'm going to save you Living spaces, living spaces
you guys aren't going to knowwhat the hell we're talking
about.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Seriously, I just want you to know I drooled just
now.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Oh, that makes me so happy, yeah, okay, yeah, I like
it when my cats drool too.
That means they're comfortable.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, they're relaxed , I get it.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay, not that, yeah, okay, all right.
So let's see Stroke.
True, there's also a link topsoriasis.
They're kind of all the same.
In that sense, psoriasis issort of like your skin cells the
skin cells just keep piling upon there.
Ew, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Like a key.
What's that called when you geta scar and it just keeps oh,
like a keloid, Keloid.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, similar, that's what Mark has we were talking
about.
Oh I just thought it was ashark bite.
Yeah, baby shark, shark, shark.
Because it was a small.
Yeah, it's.
Yeah, it's a small scar.
Oh yeah, I was trying to thebest part is trying to let him
be macho.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
Explaining the joke is usuallyeat with a tumor.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I'm really laughing, I'm just kidding, we're at 25
okay, cool alright.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
So let's see, let's see how much.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I have left here.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
The producers are going now, so treatment
treatment and management, if youdo happen to have any of this
stuff, like I do management.
Speaking of fungus oh boy, I'lltell you okay, sorry, go ahead
are you going to call themanager?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'm going to call my manager.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I mean, I've been looking for a talent manager
well, yeah.
I know a guy named.
Gus, he's fun ladies andgentlemen, all the way from the
short couch, all the way fromthe short couch.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Where'd you come from the short couch?
Oh my god, we can't use thatword anymore living spaces with
the British actually yeah,that's what the Spice Girls used
to go for.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I wonder if they have living spaces there in England
maybe they probably do.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
They call them flats, living flats, flats, flats.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
In England, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Maybe they probably do.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
They call them flats, living flautas.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
This is what I'm going to give it to you Flats.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Living flats.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
It doesn't have the same ring.
I know Living flautas, and thenyou could just make it like a
Spanish thing.
Those are delicious.
I love a flauta.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
You know what I like in a flauta Mushrooms?
Oh In a flauta.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Mushrooms.
Oh, there was a bag of fungus.
I've never had that before.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I broke a sweat on that one.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Who's Lenore?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
O'Malley, if you're listening and not watching,
tammy has ADD.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
She was just looking at something on the wall.
Stuff on the wall, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
I'm trying to find something interesting.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
You bitch.
Okay, so that's trying to findsomething interesting you bitch.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay, so that's also another one of her shows.
She does Check out Tammy JoDearing.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
You bitch, that's right, your show is called Bitch
.
Wait, I have a show.
Oh, I used to yeah, you used toyeah, oh.
Way to bring it down.
Remember all the things.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I used to do.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Now I'm here talking about fungi.
Hey, you picked it.
I know I did.
I think it's a good one.
It was the lord, it was thelord that picked it.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, you're showing people that you have other sides
.
You're not just entertainingand funny and the showrunner you
.
You know you also have fungus.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah, yeah, all right .
How do we get rid of saidfungus?
Yes keto carnosol shampoo andcream.
Are you doing that?
Uh, I am using the shampoo andI leave my hair for doing that
I've been doing it for a while,but not consistently.
I started consistently abouteight months ago and it's
finally, finally growing back onmy hair.
I didn't notice I hide it verywell.

(25:03):
I used to pull my hair out as akid, so I know how to make a
comb over happen.
Yeah, for real.
Like I had a bald spot on myhead the whole fifth grade are
you serious?
Oh yeah um, my parents werefighting a lot, yeah, yeah, it's
like cutting or you knowanything, to just it was like a
trance I didn't cut it, but Iused to love the way it felt
when the little thing came out.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
And then I would stick the root.
That's why I like piercings ohyeah, no joke.
Yeah, yeah, because it, yeah,it gives like a little pain,
it's like cutting, yeah so good,that's why I like to get hit.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Oh, my god, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know, like when I would box, oh and I would like
the feeling of getting hit untilblood, okay, yeah I got kicked
in the head, I taste blood andthen I spit blood and I went oh
yeah yeah, no more.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
yeah, yeah, this is Just hit my arm.
Yeah, don't use your feet.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, so also this is not in my eyes there's
something called itraconazole.
I don't know if you take thator not.
There are oral oh, that is anoral one, so that's an oral
azole.
So itraconazole is effective attreating it.
That's what I call myItraconazole.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
That's what I call my .
It's your connoisseur, hazel.
That's what I was callingSandro.
It's your connoisseur, you,hazel.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh you hazel you from the hazels.
Wow, the hazel words.
No, he's calling me an asshole.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah Well, no, like this is going great.
No, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
This is, I'm having fun am thank you good impression
uh, okay and then repairingyour barrier.
So you want to use gentlecleansers, you want to not, so
don't overwash important I knowit's what I'm trying to tell you
.
That's what I do importantthings, and then I try to make
you guys bring in funniness.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
What else can help you with your ph?
Um?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
you can use lotions that um I think it will help to
kill the fungus but you don'twant to over dry your skin with,
so you want to make sure thatyou're cutting it like in half,
at least with the yes.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I've taken vinegar baths.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, but you dilute it though, right.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I mean, I put a whole bottle in.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
But in a big bathtub though A big bottle in a big
bathtub.
Okay, but it's still diluted.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
You don't want to do it straight necessarily, or if
you do, do a test to see first,because it's gonna what they use
, um vinegar um without dilutingfor deodorant, if you were
going to the beach the next dayyou should use vinegar on your
armpits and then go.
I'm gonna try it.
I mean, I don't prefer to smelllike a pickle, but I do, though
, but at the same time like sowhy wouldn't I be able to just
put it directly on my skin?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
you can.
It's just it can be, especiallyif you've got something like
eczema.
It's going to be irritating andit also is drying and stripping
, so you don't want to do overtoo much.
Vinegar, Vinegar yeah, it canbe.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
That's why you can clean with it.
Also, it's not good if you havelow blood sugar or something
like that I about that?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
yeah, because it isn't like uh vinegar supposed
to help regulate insulin as well.
So that's why I may, it mightkeep it, it might dip it yeah,
so don't take the vinegar bathunless you um re like do a
little research and don't openyour mouth when you're in the
water.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
I've done that.
Don't do what.
Do you open your mouth whenyou're in the water?
Yeah, and you drink it.
I didn't drink it, oh, okay,good I didn't, god forbid.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I drink the pickle juice, though, oh my.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
God, that's really good.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
All right.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
So ceramides, gentle cleansers pH-friendly lotions
are really good at helping toreduce the trans-epidermal loss.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
What would be an example of that?
Gentle cleansers likepH-friendly lotions.
What's the one?
There's a few big ones that areon the.
I don't use them.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I can't remember right now, because that would
really help.
If your pH balances off, youcan have problems in your lady
parts.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
What's the?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Pfizer, hex, pfizerderm.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I think that's a pH one.
And then also, you can taketopical steroids.
I'm using steroid cream on myarm at the moment because it's
itching so bad.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Steroids are very topical.
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, wehave to get.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
That was my sylvester stallone impression
phototherapy uv light can helpto decrease the yeast load and
inflammation, especially indandruff.
And a lot of instagram shotsyes, exactly so that's pretty
much.
It so perfect.
I feel like we got it all inthere yeah, yeah, we're about 11
seconds away well, that'sactually um over, but yeah,

(29:11):
that's yeah yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I'm not going to correct you you just did not
wrong, but not right listeningand not watching.
I had a good time you did.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah well, will you come back um a fifth time?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
just get a jacket only if we do 45 minutes.
I've done 60 and I've done 30.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
All right, and then the next person will do 15.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
And then somebody's going to be on stage.
I still don't know what to doabout my candida, your candida?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
you could also drink some Vinegar In water, but don't
do so much killing that you getdie-off, because I've done that
before, I've done that beforeI've made my own.
You're supposed to have die off.
Yeah, but if you have too muchit will make you sick, it'll
bloat you up, but it's only fora certain amount of time.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I had like flu symptoms I was like out of
commission, you're supposed toOkay.
Well, it's not fun for yourbody, it only lasts for like a
week or two.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, it's gnarly and then you get better then,
you're like wow.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
I'm free, free falling.
I just want to do one song.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Just so I have to, I bring it living spices, living
before we throw you out of here.
Where do people, where dopeople find you on the social
stuff and things?
Have you, have you?
You're on social media right,okay, where?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
can people find you?
You can find me at Tammy JoDeren, anywhere.
Media right.
Okay, where can people find you?
You can find me at tammy joedarren anywhere.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, cool well, thank you so much for being here
thank you so much, it was sofast good, I know it went by
super quick and I can go stopand get a sandwich on my way to
my see.
Oh, that sounds next stop yeah,all right, we care about your
day.
I'm on the run you're on the.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know I'm on the run, she's on the land.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Bye everybody.
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