April 9, 2025 • 37 mins
Why are so many men missing out on the transformative power of professional facials? In this eye-opening episode, we tackle the stubborn myths and misconceptions that keep men from proper skincare while making a compelling case for why regular facials aren't just beneficial—they're essential.
Joined by comedian James Graves, we break down the five crucial reasons men should incorporate facials into their self-care routine. From controlling excess oil production and preventing acne to improving beard health and reducing painful ingrown hairs, the benefits extend far beyond vanity. We explore how men's naturally thicker, oilier skin requires specialized attention and why that bar of soap in your shower is actively working against you.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when we discuss the stress-relieving benefits of professional skincare. High cortisol levels don't just impact your mental health—they directly affect your skin, leading to inflammation, breakouts, and that stubborn "stress belly." Through personal anecdotes and expert insights, we reveal how the right facial treatment can reduce puffiness, define your jawline, and boost your overall confidence.
For men hesitant to enter the skincare world, we offer practical advice on finding reputable services, what to ask for, and what to expect during your first facial. We even bust common skincare myths in a rapid-fire segment that separates fact from fiction.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Oh nice, okay.
Instead of like the co-host,it's like the rhythm host.
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in all the stuff that you mayhave missed.
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Exactly, I may have missed.
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pretty, yeah, it's to bethorough.
Yes, yeah, you're not gonnamake a george thorough good joke
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Speaker 1 (00:35):
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subscribe to something andcomment and you've been, you're
nice about it your dopamineshoots up.
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Look what's in your hand right now.
You got to be nice oh, so youcan get your dopamine hits later
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your comment and you're like ohmy God, I'm really a good
commenter.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know, and they're like.
I need this, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I exactly yeah, you make it on them.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They're like oh my god, that was great, that was
such a great idea.
You had to like this thing.
And you're like oh no, it waseasy to like, I love it you're
so thorough this is thorough ofyou.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, very thorough with me, as always, is my uh
co-host, sherpa the boyfriend.
Set decorator um sandroyocolano yep, I'm not licensed
he's not licensed.
No, he has zero license.
He lost his license.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Licensure.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You lost your licensure.
Yeah, is that a word?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think it's a word, something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like tenure licensure ?
Yeah, I think so.
I used to always thinksomebody's tenure was like
they've been there for longerthan the person who hasn't been
there the shortest exactly theshortest you've been here long
enough to uh for me to say thatyou've been here for eight
months and everybody else hasbeen here for four, so I have
(02:33):
tenure you have tenure, which islike just you have I've been
here longer.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Isn't that kind of stupid?
I was here longer yourgrandfather didn't pretty much
oh yeah, which, by the way, ifyou come from a broken home
being grandfathered in, this isoh yeah, which, by the way if
you come from a broken homebeing grandfathered in is a
whole other meaning, speaking ofgrandfathers, they are men yes,
oh.
What's today's topic about?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
funny.
You should ask sandro.
Uh, today's topic is why?
Five reasons why men have toget facials.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, five reasons okay five main reasons why men
have to get facials um, and thisis uh in their best interest to
get facials absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, you guys need help, and uh, we're here to
tell you why, okay, and um,that's, uh, that's why we're
here so I think maybe, withoutfurther ado, should we just get
right into it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
There should be no more ado at all.
In fact, take the ado you haveand throw it all over your back.
I want further more.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, none, none of it and if you already know and you
already are getting facials,this will actually help you to
step up your game and it'll giveyou an excuse to tell your wife
to put more money into youraccount, into your venmo right,
it does feel good to get stuffdone for yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I've noticed that if I take care of my car or I take
care of myself, and this tookmany years of well, a couple
years of medication and aboutthe same amount of time of four
different therapists at the sametime At the same time, at the
same time, at the same time, oh,okay, at the same time all at
once.
I like to get very economical.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Each one has a different personality.
Yeah, exactly, you're alltalking at the same time.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I say the same thing to all four of their ears and
since there are four differentpeople, there's four different
perspectives, hopefully.
And then they shoot back at meand I go yeah, I like that.
No, I don't like that take.
No, I do love my mom, I don'tlike that one, I do love my mom,
I don't like that one.
And then I come back and I tellthem why I think they're right
or wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And I think it works perfectly too, because you're
from an Italian family whereeverybody just talks as loud as
they can at each other.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right, nothing's ever dealt with.
Nothing's dealt with and youcontinue being irrational and
hotheaded your entire life.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Until.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You die, or until you happen to.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
just you know until you die or until you uh, happen
to.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Just, you know, chill out and someone would be like
all right, we're not exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, we should be angry to belike hey earlier when I, yep,
don't even mention it, andthat's as far as I ever got into
it, oh my god.
So it's like don't even.
What there should have beensaid was don't mention it.
We're gonna keep this insideand build resentment.
It's fine, we'll do this againsoon, I promise don't mention it
until it comes up again yeah,yeah, yeah, don't mention until
yelling in my face, yeah, but um, yeah, I feel I feel good it's.
(05:09):
It makes you have, you havevalue was.
What I was going to say was Itake care of myself, I take care
of whatever, and I feel like itadds value to it.
It makes me feel good, you knowso yeah, and you've really been
doing that over the last, uh, 12years, 13 years we've been
together, yep, little by little,adding a little bit of this and
that, yeah before I wascompletely I didn't even, I was
bumping into walls, I wasgetting into the trunk of my car
(05:32):
trying to drive it, and then Imet Nikki and she's like no, no,
no, here's the door handle.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Stop treating yourself like trash.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yes, Just start treating yourself Pretty much
yeah.
Don't treat yourself like trash, just treat yourself.
Yeah, I didn't realize how Iwas talking about myself.
That's true, you were talkingshit about yourself.
Well, I'm excited for today'stopic and I'm excited for
today's guest.
He's a very, very funnycomedian, very, very funny
comedian and, um, he has animprov background.
We talked before the show, sowe've gotten to know each other
for a couple years now.
(05:59):
Uh, you were in the bathroomfor a year and a half yeah, yeah
yeahwe go way back to the bathroom.
Um, but yeah, you want to takeover the second half of the
intro.
Um, all right, well, you bookedhim.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I like him, you booked I did all right well
coming to the couch james graves.
Hey hi.
Thanks so much for being herethank you for asking me.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I am excited too.
We were just talking about howyou're a teacher I I didn't know
that.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, when I'm not selling my soul on stage to make
people laugh, I teach children.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Do you get money for your soul too?
No, that's not how it works.
We haven't gotten paid to getour souls.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You said selling the soul.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, oh it's selling it for laughter and acceptance?
Oh, okay, but you can.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You can also just say being happy because that's what
.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I've learned too.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Sometimes, when I get up there and it doesn't go well
and the audience hates me, itmakes me feel good because I
deserve it, and that makes mehappy.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
What is it about momming that makes us like we
want it more, though?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's like it's something, and if you have daddy
and mommy issues.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, Well, yeah, both of them.
Yeah, I always think about thegirlfriend.
That doesn't like you, but itjust makes you want her more.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're like okay now I want to do more.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You didn't like that one, huh yeah yeah, yeah, no no
I can do better.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I'm going to push you into a wall and give you this
one.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh wait, no.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I ate.
That's why it wasn't funny inbed.
What?
What are you talking about?
Well, on a teacher's salary.
Um, I should ask you, do youhave?
No, I'm just kidding, but um,have you ever had a facial?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
no, no, I actually haven't all right, my wife is
like whatever, like home things,like mass things yeah like
christmas morning, like you'regonna wear this while I make
breakfast she tells you yeah,because I uh, it's kind of weird
that I'm on here because Idon't take care of my skin at
all, except for soap and waterthat's kind of common.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That's very common.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So when I told my wife this is what the podcast I
was on, she goes but why you?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
that's really you don't do anything.
I was like.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Maybe that's why that's the problem that's the
whole point.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, as I bring up these five things, feel free to
interject if you uh, if you haveany commentary on it.
Um, but uh, shall we, uh,should we start?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
we shall all right.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Reason number one men should have a facial is first
of all for acne and uh oilcontrol, because men produce way
more sebum, and I know whatyou're thinking sebum comes out
of your no sebum comes out ofyour pores, Sandra.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh, I thought it was some, you know, like a really
really dirty act done over atthe docks With, like a homeless
guy, sebum.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, oh, a sebum, right, exactly.
And also, when you come in fora facial, I'll give you
extractions.
You know one will haveextractions.
Have you heard of extractionsbefore?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
no so wait you remember when I said I knew
nothing so you just have totreat me like I know nothing, so
we circle back to that yeah, soall the terminology, I don't
know okay.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So if you were having a facial right now, I would
steam you for probably a good10-15 minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I would go in and steam you with this, like
putting steam on your face for awhile.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, open up your, your what other steaming could
there be?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
well, who knows?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean again like a, like a roman bathhouse yeah,
yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, I have a roman bathhouse in my apartment, okay
good, now we have that figuredout, okay, okay um, so I'm gonna
.
I will empty your pores verycarefully.
I wear gloves.
It's the stuff that you wouldprobably want to do on your own
in a mirror, but it's not reallygood to do that, so a lot of
guys do it.
You don't look like you do.
You have pretty tight-lookingpores.
Your pores look tight.
(09:35):
I feel like that's a compliment.
It is Okay.
Good, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Because something happened to my dad once.
I've I've been afraid to pop oruh, you know, blackheads or
pimples, because one time my dadhe had a pimple right here or a
blackhead and he popped it andit didn't.
It must have went under hisskin and it swelled up.
He looked like a lion.
It was like this big it waslike an abscess or something.
Yeah, it was, so it was I waslike I'm never doing that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Wow, that was a good way to learn my dad's in the
elephant man coming this summer.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Dad, do you believe?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
in unicorns.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, so facials.
Basically, we cleanse your skinand it does help regulate the
oil production in your skin, butyou don't want to do too many
extractions because your skinwill actually then compensate
and keep producing more oil.
Like an ex-boyfriend I used tohave that would go into the
bathroom and squeeze his poresfor 25 minutes.
And his pores were like he wasItalian.
His pores were like this, bigand it was because of that.
(10:38):
He was just constantly.
This was the era.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So he was trying to make them smaller by squeezing
them to make them bigger.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But he was just making them worse.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, so don't do that?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh, okay, interesting .
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All right.
So reason number two bettershaving and beard health.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh, okay, matt, I feel like you purposely put this
toward the top for me.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It does say see James Graves.
Yeah, it does Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Is that okay, but how does that help?
I mean so, what does that do?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Because you're exfoliating the top layer of
your dead skin, the epidermis.
So when the dead skin mixeswith the dirt and oil, it will A
it can create a pimple and B ifyou're not getting rid of that
(11:28):
dead skin.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You're going to get an ingrown hair a lot of times.
Do you ever get ingrowns?
Um, uh, like yes, sometimesyeah occasionally.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And how do you get them out?
Uh, I just, I just let time.
Yeah, yeah, it's actuallybetter.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I like that remember.
Yeah, politely, yeah, but yoursis better time is just.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Please, just look in the mirror, please come out.
Yeah, yeah, whenever you'reready, yeah well, well,
eventually, your skin.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Will you know that layer of skin will come to the
surface and your hair will justfinally poke out.
Well, I guess you know.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I guess the one thing I mean, even when I was a
teenager, that would be the onething I would do if I had a
pimple or something like put ahot towel on it, Okay, and then
just let it to it, and then yeah, all right yeah as long as
you're doing it with somethingthat's very.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I have to make sure that everybody knows this.
If you're going to pop a pimple, do what he said, do what james
said, but make sure thatwhatever you're popping it with
is not your finger that's dirty,um, or something sterile and
you want to go in from the sideand not go down.
Because if you're going down,you're going to pop the the pore
which is already compromised.
That's why it red and it'sgoing to go into the pore and
(12:24):
then spread to the pores aroundit.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh, wow, yeah, and it scars.
I've been doing this all wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Now you know, if you're doing needle drugs, you
don't want to use the sameneedle to pop your pimples Like
if you're doing a round ofheroin or something.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I was going to say it's needlepoint, but okay,
needlepoint.
Oh needlepoint's, even better.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Are heroin addicts big on skincare and needlepoint
and needlepoint, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And needlepoint.
They love crocheting in theirdowntime.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Which is a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, they're just if I'm not poking me, I'm poking
the fabric.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You gotta poke something with a needle, exactly
.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm threading this in something.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Okay, and so also the is going to make your beard
grow more, if that's what you'reinto, but so but.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So then, mainly it's.
If you have a beard, though, soit would it mostly be the steam
, because you what else can youdo for the fit around the facial
?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I would go yeah, I would go around your, okay.
Yeah, I'd go around your facial.
For the most part, I canmassage where your beard is, if
it doesn't bother you, and I canmassage the skin and that
produces more collagen, whichwe'll get to that one I'm
already sold, like I know.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't even know if I need the other three reasons.
We'll be back next wednesday um, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So anti-aging and skin longevity, which is very
important especially in my skinlong I've been trying to make my
skin longer for years.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
None of it works.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right.
So sun damage and prematurewrinkles you can get from just
not taking care of your skin.
Like I said, facials boost thecollagen by, you know,
stimulating it.
It stimulates collagen andelastin in your skin.
Okay, so just, you know, justmoving it around kind of makes
it look younger.
Um, and you know, you've seenthose guys who neglect their
skin and they look like shit andthey and they, you know yeah
(14:12):
but then there's also guys thatneglect their skin and look
fabulous.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So you know, it just depends on a lot of its genetic,
honestly I think so, but Ithink you can definitely help
yourself by uh agreeing with youthat's a really good point yeah
, I like this guy yeah yeah, I,occasionally I do too, right
after, right after couplescounseling that's a good time to
like each other rightafterwards yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Reason number four this is just sort of an
emotional thing, but stressrelief and what, sandra,
referring to your own self-care,it's not just vanity, you're
actually relaxing.
Then you're also makingyourself feel better because
you're treating yourself to that, you're pampering yourself,
which you deserve.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I believe in that.
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I wanted to make sure that you did before I moved on
to the next reason why.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think anyone wants to take care of themselves a
little bit, but it's hard.
As a guy like, that's not, it'snot the first thing I think of
of taking care of myself is likeyou're not facial my skin.
Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, no, none of that or like.
If I have dry skin.
I never, I would never considerto like.
It's like man.
My elbows look like they, looklike my, my shoe treads, you
know, like it's super all justlike all gnarly whatever.
I never thought to put lotionon them and no, now I do it
Until me.
Until you and you're like, yourelbows hurt me.
Why are you elbowing me in theface and you're like, if you
have to continue to elbow me inthe face.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Give me like a rash with his elbow.
Alex is rolling his eyes, bythe way.
What's that?
Your elbow to the face?
Oh well, purist man, I elbow.
Okay, you're really into that?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
elbow play.
Yeah, I love it.
Elbow play, I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, yeah, we used to call them elbow and arrows,
um, but that's like if you'respanish well, I thought it was l
bone, l bone, yeah, the l bonethat's like the laughing bone,
but then also l bone oh like, oh, like the bone yeah, yeah well
that one needs to be moisturizedfor sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, you've taken care of that already right, yeah
, you can't have an ashy helmet.
Back to you, james.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
James, as you were saying you don't want to
over-lotion down there though.
No, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
What happens if you over-lotion it?
Well, you can't.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Well, because then it can get Well one.
It gets residue, and then youdon't want that chemicals.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
If you're with your lady friend, he doesn't want to
say it because he's a gentleman.
You get too much sebum.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, you do actually get the sebum's out of control
Really.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Is that what they call, and we can edit this out,
but at least I can beep it outduck butter, is that?
Is that a bad thing to talkabout?
Oh, what's?
I don't know about that, that'snot the stuff that's like under
your testicles or something oh,am I making that up?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I've never had it, so I wouldn't know, I don't know,
I wouldn't know.
There is definitely a clinicalname for it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
All the men are in this room are denying that
they've ever had.
I've, but.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I've never had Maybe dirty men that live under the
streets.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Probably yeah, are there men that live under the
streets.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Are under highway passes.
Yeah and the mole people.
Oh and the mole people.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
yeah, yeah, I'm sorry , I can't let you get away with
anything.
By the way, it's too.
It's ingrained in ourrelationship.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We don't let anything pass.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
No, no, out a bit when we're in a fight, it's good
to do that, though, yeah that'sgood, you keep.
Keep things light, you know orwhat's your other favorite thing
.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You'll go uh oh, in the middle of an argument, I'll
just, I'll just turn over, I'lljust go, we'll be right back,
I'll just like look at the wallor something, just to try every
time.
Yeah, yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And then also, by getting um, by getting a facial,
you're releasing, you'rerelieving stress.
I don't know releasing anythingon my table?
Um, you're, but it's gonnalower the cortisol in your body,
because do you know aboutcortisol?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
remember the beginning?
No, nothing, okay, well,cortisol cortisol is more of a
body thing okay so like umpeople get cortisol I don't take
care of my body either, ohperfect okay, so you're I'm
married, I'm a dad, I'm ateacher.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
When I'm telling jokes, I I have no time to care
about this so you're filled withcortisol, though it sounds like
if you have kids and a wife andyou're teaching and yeah, so
like because it's stress.
Stress induces a hormone inyour body that's called cortisol
oh, oh, that's what that is,yeah oh, I got a lot of that I
got it by the bucket.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, you should have just said it that way.
I'm sorry, I should have ledwith that.
Yeah, oh, I got a lot of that.
I got it by the buckets.
You should have just said itthat way.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I'm sorry I should have led with that.
Yeah, yeah.
How many kids do you have?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I have four kids.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Holy shit, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, four kids.
You look like a very young manhaving four kids.
I was just going to say that,yeah, you don't look as stressed
out as a person with four kidswould normally look, I usually
ignore them.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
That's good, that's the key.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Your skin looks great , so keep doing what you're
doing.
Yeah, if you have kids, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Aw, that's so nice.
That's what makes you who youare, though You're a very child
guy.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I know, I love my kids.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Although you could be in one of the categories,
they're out into another place.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It all comes rushing out oh, I am a gemini, so there
are two sides people like topoint that out.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Okay, I'm like what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, I'm a sagittarius, so people have
called me a horse's ass manytimes I'd like to shoot you with
an arrow as well, yeah, I shootmyself.
I shoot myself on my own hoofvery often was that number four
already?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
uh, I lost.
I don't know how to count.
All right, well, let's go tothe next one.
Um, we did that one.
Okay, wait a second.
Let's go back to this for justone second.
You said normalize it?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
oh, so you mentioned earlier and I want to ask this
question yeah, because guysdon't know.
Typically, like you know, ifyou go into a place to get it
done right, it's going to money,because that's just what it
does you know, when you pay forart.
That's, that's what you do andum did you like that was?
That good.
Well, I am an artiste it'sreally good.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, I like it, I'm listening.
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
By the way, I'm an assistant.
I don't know if you need that,that's I've watched.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I've watched some episodes are you subscribed?
Okay, you've possibly liked it.
I liked it because I liked it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Whoa dude.
Yeah, that's a lot of pressureon us.
You should don't tell us youreally like us.
I'm just gonna say I mean I'llwatch more maybe change my mind.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, just yeah, don't go toofar.
It was a quick response, yeah,yeah, yeah, you got it loaded in
the chamber, just in case whatwere you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
uh, you know, I was gonna say, uh, guys don't know
typically, like what to go lookfor.
Like you know, I would say,maybe, you know, I wouldn't know
.
So if somebody, like, ifsomebody goes into like a, like
same, I'm the same thing withcars like I know enough.
But if somebody says I need apiston shearing, I'll be like,
oh my god, shear the pistons.
What's that gonna cost?
They're like oh, it runs about1500.
I'm like, oh, man, you know,now you can look online or
(20:50):
whatever, but still, you know, Ineed to get some information,
like how much would youtypically spend or what do you
need?
Just to get in there and justto make yourself feel like you
took care of yourself and youdon't look like just a ball of
shit.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know, I've heard people say that I would feel
overwhelmed by it, like you know, when you go get your car oil
changed, like you're saying.
And then they're like, like youknow, when you go get your card
oil change, like you're saying,and then they're like you need
this and this and like I'm not acar guy, so I'm like I guess
you better do all that today,because I need the car to work
tomorrow yeah, oh my god, get towork already, like thank god I
(21:25):
made it here.
God dang so glad I made it tothe jiffy lube today.
I didn't know, I almost died,that's what they call me the
jiffy lube do they really?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
no, oh okay, I think it's like peanut butter and oil,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It just came out, alex, I don't, it just came out.
Um well, I was gonna bring.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
James was saying something oh, what, oh, so, yeah
, so like, uh, how would you?
I would feel overwhelmed, goingsomewhere like of, like what,
what do I need?
Or what's the most effectiveway, because it all feels
foreign to me, like the.
So I think the normalizing itwould be good, because then I
would know what to even ask forand where to even go, if you're
a man, you're walking into a spa, I would say just ask for a
(22:05):
deep cleansing facial.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It's very basic cleansing, exfoliating
extractions, a mask, maybe somemassage back of the neck, stuff
like that.
Um, a lot of times, though,women underestimate men, or they
get them right on the nosebecause they men don't know
which one to pick, so they callit a sports facial oh oh
interesting I always thoughtthat was so insulting to men
like yeah, no it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean, yeah, I guess I was like I'll sign, I'm
climbing up for the sports.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, right well, they have that place where
you cut your hair called SportsClips, do you Like?
Why would you ever call it?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, it's like, okay guys, I go to Sports Clips.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Do you really?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, that's my place , I go.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, see.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, I live in Lancaster, so I go to sports
clubs.
That's where I go.
I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
My mom worked at Fantastic Sam's for a number of
years after she had her ownplace, and I never once met a
Sam in that place, dude, letalone fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, it was more like it was marvelous, but
that's not the point.
Yeah, I met a lot of mediocremics, but never a fantastic.
That's what they should havecalled it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, mediocre mics.
That's what we go to on theweekends Open mics.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Open mics?
Yeah, the mediocre ones.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But we just put sports in front of anything
You're saying.
It makes sense complete sportsclips.
If you put sport in front of acar, they have sport minivans
and you're like what's that?
And they're like it's a way tosell things.
We put letters on the car thatsay sport and be yeah, I'll do
it.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it works.
It feels more manly.
Yeah, a lot of times men'sfacials also may or may not be
slightly shorter than a woman'sfacial, just because maybe we're
not sure that you're going towant to commit a whole hour to
this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Women take longer to finish.
I've heard that it's very true.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Why does that sound so familiar?
That sounds-.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Ask your wife.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Oh, skincare familiar that sounds, ask your wife oh,
skincare, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 20 to 40 minutes so are
you saying like they, you know,they typically that because men
typically don't know, or they'rejust like okay, you know
because they don't know whatthey don't know like the facials
take longer or they take longer.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, okay, generally , I mean it's changing.
Now more and more men arestarting to get facials.
Um, I have more and more maleclientele, which is nice.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Um, and did you break out?
Like different, like sense,like, oh, like, for women it's
lavender and this, but when it'sthe guy's like, well, this is
my leather collection sandalwoodsandalwood actually, yes, okay,
yeah, yeah, men love, I love, Ishould have brought that one.
It works yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And it's, yeah, it's woodsy.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, Mm-hmm, there is something about like so much
about wood.
That's the reason why I reallyenjoy going into Home Depot.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I smell the lumber.
The first thing.
I don't even want to buildanything, but.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I like the smell of wood, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Absolutely.
They should make skincare linefor men, to just call it lumber.
Oh see, that's good.
Okay, now I'm.
Now you're selling me right.
Okay, I'm glad we stopped atnumber four guys.
Yeah, I feel this is this.
Number four is the tippingpoint for me.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, before I was entertaining you now.
I'm now, I'm in it, now you'relearning okay well, what if we
told you you could invest inlumber right now?
Like number five is just apitch for lumber.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
This was all a ploy.
Yeah, this is where the meetingtransitions for a mere ten
thousand dollars this.
This is how they get you incults.
Yes, yeah, they promise youlike uh familiar fragrances yeah
, and then, you're like and youcould get it on the ground floor
yeah and lumber also go inthere and tell someone all your
dirtiest confessions.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're yeah, yeah, you're gonna hold two cologne
bottles instead of cans.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I don't know, it's a scientologist too, oh yeah yeah,
that's right, and then you haveto like one of them has to be
inserted into your body and youhave to record it on video and
then if you say anything, peoplethey'll put that video out.
Yeah, yeah, it's just like youknow, like friends, you know,
like when you had to enter anylike when you enter into any
business you're supposed to givesomebody something to blackmail
you by, just in case it's aditty party.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's a ditty party, no, not a dinner party A ditty
party, oh a ditty party.
A ditty dinner party.
That's the next level, diddyjust called them dinner parties.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Everybody else called them a ditty party.
He just called them parties gettogether okay you know.
And then all this illegal shitwas happening.
Isn't that crazy?
To him, it was just like anormal thing but did has anyone?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I thought, what if did?
He was just what if he was justgoing to bed early and everyone
else was having the party?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
it just was happening .
Oh my god that's a really goodpoint as a property owner, I
should not like dude.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
That's true my my wife and I will have people over
and she just sneaks off andit's like that that irish
goodbye, just goes to bed.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So she's not responsible.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's happening what if diddy?
What if diddy's in bed by 8 30?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
oh my god, I just thought about something.
Is that why some people not mehave issue with irish, because
they're always just skirtingresponses?
They're like I gotta get out ofhere and they just kind of walk
away and it's like yeah wherethe hell's mclanahan?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I gotta wash his dishes why, am I washing the
dishes?
These are his.
It's his kitchen, you know andmclanahan.
I'll tell you he's anyway, I'msorry I got sidetracked by the
irish I was just trying tofigure out a way to work in the
golden girls but but I couldn'tdo it.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh, that's perfect.
You just did.
Yeah, lou McClanahan, nice,yeah, but it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It didn't work Sometimes, just stating what you
were going to say I know, I'mjust telling you all the joke I
wanted to tell.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I'm going to figure out how to talk about golf, but
now that we're here, yeah yeah,yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And then cortisol can also cause breakouts.
It can make you have stomachfat, it can make you have
cortisol face is that why?
I'm fucking fat well, I don't,okay, I can't even I was trying
not to cuss, but it felt so goodjust there.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, it was the alliteration, do I?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
just need a facial.
Is that what is why I'm theheaviest I've ever been in, I
think, but I've never had afacial.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Maybe that's it lymphatic drainage.
I learned.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I've never had a facial.
Maybe that's it, it could belymphatic drainage.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I've learned that too , oh man.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh yeah, that's right .
That's another good point.
That wasn't one of the reasons,but just the lymphatic drainage
alone.
It helps to de-puff, and sowe're pushing the sort of
stagnant lymph that's in theskin out down and into all of it
.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, you said jolly, but I heard jolly yeah is that
because I'm kind of against annaclaus right now.
I think I think, however, itsounds good to you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah I mean, I think that I think the jowls can be
jolly, that's you can have jolly, jolly jowls yeah, totally
sometimes, because I know for me, like when I like, even if I
lose some weight, I still willhave what's called no separation
between my like, like rightover here.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'm going to help you with that.
It just looks like one solid.
Yeah, I'm going to help youwith that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like, if you don't, believe in geometry and angles.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Look at my face.
All you have to do is put thetongue to the roof of your mouth
and see the difference.
Well, you have a beard, so, andyou kind of have one too.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, that's why I have a beard.
So, and you kind of have onetoo.
Well, that's why I have a beard, because if I don't have a
beard, this looks like a can ofbusted biscuits.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
This is to give myself a face, I like it, that
sounds like something I wouldwant to put my head against.
So you know what I mean If youhad like a can of busted
biscuits.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You just described me and my wife's first date.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's right there that's so nice see you were
there for each other.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, busted biscuits .
That's her bedroom name.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
For me that's not a bad name, right that's hilarious
whenever you're ready to bustit, just do it okay biscuits
come here all right.
The last one is kind of I don'tknow, it's confidence boost,
(29:42):
because we kind of talked aboutthat.
But when you're not just takingcare of yourself, but when your
skin looks better, you're goingto feel better.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I like how confidence boost was the one you sounded
the least confident saying.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
That's hilarious I guess Confidence boost, I don't
know how I feel about this one Ifeel like it could have ended
on a bigger uh crescendo, butit's so oh, because, far as
being like one of the main, oneof the five reasons men should,
or it's in best interest to getuh facial or take care of the
skin, is because the confidenceboosts right that could have
been number one I feel like itcould have been number one
(30:20):
because it wasn't like aphysical thing.
Right.
And then number five could havebeen like you have, you know,
taking money out of your wallet.
Sometimes it's too heavy, youknow, so let's just get rid of
it.
I see why I think.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I see why you'd have it number five, though, because
that's the long okay one of thelong-term effects right that you
would want.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I can see why it'd be number five and first
impressions when you're meetingsomeone in a business meeting or
an interview or even dating,things like that like your first
impression if somebody'slooking at your face and you
look busted?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
yeah, I've been busted, but yeah if somebody
looks at you and they call youpuffy and you're not ditty, then
it's probably you have a puffyface.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So you have puffy face, which is just sex
trafficking.
I told you that story beforethe cameras rolled.
I didn't know you were going toshare it.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well, here's the thing no one was going to know,
but now they know because youimplicated yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Don't say those two words together again, because
I'm probably going to have tobelieve it now.
The S and T words together,because YouTube's pretty,
they're pretty sensual, sensualtrafficking yes, is that?
Yeah, we're talking aboutturtles, soft turtles.
Thank you, I said it wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I don't know French that well oh my gosh, that's
amazing that was.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I love this town is that.
Are they doing facials in thenext room?
Yeah, we just watched the two.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I don't know if they were, if they were, if they were
trans, if they were super tall.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
If they were in a 60s band.
They were beautiful people.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I couldn't see their faces.
I just saw the outfits.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I was into it, whatever it was, I was too.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
We all just went like Whoa.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I was like If that's where the facials Are happening.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I'm gonna go After this.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
That would make sense , if.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I could just walk.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
To a few steps from this meeting right now to get a
facial.
Yeah, oh yeah, totally I woulddo it.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Convenience for guys, I think.
And also you don't have to goout and spend a bunch of money
on this kind of stuff too.
You can get the basics and takecare of yourself at home.
But going out to do it, do alittle research and then you can
know what to get or not,typically if it's an like an
hour.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Is it like a facial and if you, if you're like
relaxed enough to go to sleep,they're doing a good job, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So you know, you brought up a good point Like so
how would someone, especiallysince I don't know anything, how
would I even know, other than,of course, calling you, because
you'd be my first person?
But if, if they don't know you,how would a guy find or look
for for, like a quality personto go to, because I'm sure
there's so many places to gothat are crappy?
And then if you get a crapexperience, then you know, then
(32:43):
you never want to go back.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
You can start at like one of those corporate places
like burke, williams orsomething like that, and they'll
just give you like a very basiceuropean spa facial okay yeah,
you can kind of count on themfor that.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
They're not going to go over and above I think it's
great that you think I knowwhere any of these places are,
because I know.
But now that you said that I'mgoing to watch this later and
I'll know to look up that nameand then when you drive by them.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You'll be like oh, you'll like because, that's what
happened to me.
I was like Burke Williams.
I was like oh, I thought thiswas a paint place for the
longest time, but clearly it wasSherwin Williams.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I get my hair done at sports clips.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't know other burgers, it's sports smash it's
a sports smash burger yeah, thebaseball bat that sounds good,
smash it.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You made me hungry, oh my god, me too the biscuits
in the, in the burgers.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, all right, we're gonna wrap this up.
So, bonus segment skincare mythor fact.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm gonna read these to you, okay the whole show
could have been this I love mythor or fact.
Okay, we're going to start.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Okay, so don't look.
You can't look at my notes.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I've never looked at anything.
It's a giant screen, I knowJust focus on Sandro.
Okay, so I'm going to say astatement You're either going to
say it's true or it's justtotal BS.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
All right, men don't need moisturizer because their
skin is oilier false Total.
Bs.
That's right, that's a myth.
Oily skin definitely stillneeds hydration, because it
needs to keep it regulated.
Gotcha Shaving acts as anexfoliant, and so men don't need
(34:10):
to exfoliate separately.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I'm going to say myth , BS, bullshit.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It sounds so true, though, because otherwise you
sound like you're.
I mean, at least for thatportion of your face.
I'm going to say myth, bs,bullshit.
It sounds so true, though,because otherwise you sound like
you're.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, at least for that portion of your face, oh
yeah yeah, yeah, I'm going tomake you both right, because
it's half myth, half truth.
It's going to remove dead skin,which is great, because we do.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I like compliments?
Yeah, exactly it works.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
It was nice.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Dermoplaning is what women do, but you guys are
actually shaving, but you aregetting the dead skin around
this area, but not so much,maybe, around here, because
you're not shaving your foreheadunless you're, you have
hirsutism or whatever well, Imean, you haven't met my in-laws
, so where I come from, mypeople, my people all right.
Using bar soap on your face isokay uh, yeah, I don't that's no
(34:59):
, it's disgusting, okay, Ididn't even give james it's
because.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Is it because the last thing someone else washed
and then the first thing?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm washing wow, that's another move.
I hadn't even thought aboutthat.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's not self-cleaning those soap bars no
, they certainly are not.
No, I'm a gel fan, I mean I'm,I'm, I'm a sports clubs guy, but
but I mean I, I, I'm not amonster I use bath gel.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Okay, so a bar soap, as you can imagine it's going to
.
It's going to make your skin sodry, like that squeaky, and it
takes up all the natural oilsand it leaves it in a different
weird um, it takes the moisturebarrier off your skin, which you
don't want, because it takes awhile for it to get back.
All right, men's skin isdifferent from women's so they
need different products.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I would think that's true.
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yes, men's skin is generally oilier and thicker, so
there are certain things thatare going to work better for a
man's skin and you can ask yourlocal esthetician.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That's why I've never taken insults because I have
thick skin and you don't want toruin that you don't want to
ruin it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
No, because it'll thin it out all right, drinking
more water alone is going toclear up your skin alone?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
no, I think it helps, but not alone, right?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think it helps same thing, yeah but yeah, hydration
definitely helps and most ofthe men I know are completely
dehydrated.
You have some good hints in thephrasings of these questions
I'm like all right.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I feel like you're telling me in between the lines.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm trying to get it into your
brain.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's like doing the at-home driving course.
It's like the answers are inthe question bro.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
They're so easy, man.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
So they're so easy, man, why did I fail?
Three times yeah, I don't know,I have no idea.
Oh, that was actual driving.
Yes, yeah, all right, so um.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Should I ask james the question?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
well, first of all, thank you so much for coming I
just, yeah, that's a good move.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, yeah, thank you so much for having me.
This is fun, you're fantastic.
This is one of our first of theshorter episodes that we're
doing I'm glad I was the firstto be like we don't need to talk
to him that long.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I thought you were going to say I'm glad, because I
didn't really want to be hereat all.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say.
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
But now.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And now I'm going to ask you a serious question.
Where do people find you onsocial media?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Okay, yeah, so I'm on Instagram and it at James
Graves comedy on Instagram andthat's crazy, ves, ves.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, yep, alrighty.
Well, thank you again for beinghere.
I hope to see you soon on ashow.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Absolutely yeah, and I like this episode was it was
condensed, but we, there was alot of good we we put everything
, all the energy into that,elongating it Exactly Okay, so
shut up.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Shut up.
Okay, all right.
So this is going to be atWednesday at 3 am, and we'll see
you guys next week.
Bye.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Bye, anyways, so let's talk a little more, okay,
oh good.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Nice, I'm the lead host.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You're the rhythm host, I'm the rhythm host.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh nice, okay.
Instead of like the co-host,it's like the rhythm host.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, I'm the person that's just in the back filling
in all the stuff that you mayhave missed.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Exactly, I may have missed.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
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pretty, yeah, it's to bethorough.
Yes, yeah, you're not gonnamake a george thorough good joke
.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
No, I was actually gonna make a big lebowski joke
that's good.
Oh, he's a good man andthorough, yeah, nice um, but uh,
let me just say up front uh,I'm a stand-up esthetician, a
licensed comedian.
Like and subscribe, or justsubscribe or just like.
But better would if you couldlike, subscribe and comment,
that would be great.
And so just hit it, hit it.
(00:58):
I don't know where it is inrelation to my finger, but just
do that again.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
You don't have to like it to tell people that you
liked it that's true, if youhate it, who cares?
Just subscribe, just thumb itdo it.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, put it, give it , give it a thumb, alex producer
.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Alex is agreeing it's been shown that if you like and
subscribe to something andcomment and you've been, you're
nice about it your dopamineshoots up.
Yeah, so be nice to yourselfand be nice to the computer,
because one day it's going torule you, like it already does.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Look what's in your hand right now.
You got to be nice oh, so youcan get your dopamine hits later
.
That's really, that's a goodplan.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And then people are like, oh my God somebody liked
your comment and you're like ohmy God, I'm really a good
commenter.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know, and they're like.
I need this, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I exactly yeah, you make it on them.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They're like oh my god, that was great, that was
such a great idea.
You had to like this thing.
And you're like oh no, it waseasy to like, I love it you're
so thorough this is thorough ofyou.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, very thorough with me, as always, is my uh
co-host, sherpa the boyfriend.
Set decorator um sandroyocolano yep, I'm not licensed
he's not licensed.
No, he has zero license.
He lost his license.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Licensure.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You lost your licensure.
Yeah, is that a word?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I think it's a word, something like that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Like tenure licensure ?
Yeah, I think so.
I used to always thinksomebody's tenure was like
they've been there for longerthan the person who hasn't been
there the shortest exactly theshortest you've been here long
enough to uh for me to say thatyou've been here for eight
months and everybody else hasbeen here for four, so I have
(02:33):
tenure you have tenure, which islike just you have I've been
here longer.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Isn't that kind of stupid?
I was here longer yourgrandfather didn't pretty much
oh yeah, which, by the way, ifyou come from a broken home
being grandfathered in, this isoh yeah, which, by the way if
you come from a broken homebeing grandfathered in is a
whole other meaning, speaking ofgrandfathers, they are men yes,
oh.
What's today's topic about?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
funny.
You should ask sandro.
Uh, today's topic is why?
Five reasons why men have toget facials.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay, five reasons okay five main reasons why men
have to get facials um, and thisis uh in their best interest to
get facials absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, you guys need help, and uh, we're here to
tell you why, okay, and um,that's, uh, that's why we're
here so I think maybe, withoutfurther ado, should we just get
right into it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
There should be no more ado at all.
In fact, take the ado you haveand throw it all over your back.
I want further more.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, none, none of it and if you already know and you
already are getting facials,this will actually help you to
step up your game and it'll giveyou an excuse to tell your wife
to put more money into youraccount, into your venmo right,
it does feel good to get stuffdone for yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I've noticed that if I take care of my car or I take
care of myself, and this tookmany years of well, a couple
years of medication and aboutthe same amount of time of four
different therapists at the sametime At the same time, at the
same time, at the same time, oh,okay, at the same time all at
once.
I like to get very economical.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Each one has a different personality.
Yeah, exactly, you're alltalking at the same time.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I say the same thing to all four of their ears and
since there are four differentpeople, there's four different
perspectives, hopefully.
And then they shoot back at meand I go yeah, I like that.
No, I don't like that take.
No, I do love my mom, I don'tlike that one, I do love my mom,
I don't like that one.
And then I come back and I tellthem why I think they're right
or wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And I think it works perfectly too, because you're
from an Italian family whereeverybody just talks as loud as
they can at each other.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right, nothing's ever dealt with.
Nothing's dealt with and youcontinue being irrational and
hotheaded your entire life.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Until.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
You die, or until you happen to.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
just you know until you die or until you uh, happen
to.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Just, you know, chill out and someone would be like
all right, we're not exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, we should be angry to belike hey earlier when I, yep,
don't even mention it, andthat's as far as I ever got into
it, oh my god.
So it's like don't even.
What there should have beensaid was don't mention it.
We're gonna keep this insideand build resentment.
It's fine, we'll do this againsoon, I promise don't mention it
until it comes up again yeah,yeah, yeah, don't mention until
yelling in my face, yeah, but um, yeah, I feel I feel good it's.
(05:09):
It makes you have, you havevalue was.
What I was going to say was Itake care of myself, I take care
of whatever, and I feel like itadds value to it.
It makes me feel good, you knowso yeah, and you've really been
doing that over the last, uh, 12years, 13 years we've been
together, yep, little by little,adding a little bit of this and
that, yeah before I wascompletely I didn't even, I was
bumping into walls, I wasgetting into the trunk of my car
(05:32):
trying to drive it, and then Imet Nikki and she's like no, no,
no, here's the door handle.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Stop treating yourself like trash.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yes, Just start treating yourself Pretty much
yeah.
Don't treat yourself like trash, just treat yourself.
Yeah, I didn't realize how Iwas talking about myself.
That's true, you were talkingshit about yourself.
Well, I'm excited for today'stopic and I'm excited for
today's guest.
He's a very, very funnycomedian, very, very funny
comedian and, um, he has animprov background.
We talked before the show, sowe've gotten to know each other
for a couple years now.
(05:59):
Uh, you were in the bathroomfor a year and a half yeah, yeah
yeahwe go way back to the bathroom.
Um, but yeah, you want to takeover the second half of the
intro.
Um, all right, well, you bookedhim.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I like him, you booked I did all right well
coming to the couch james graves.
Hey hi.
Thanks so much for being herethank you for asking me.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I am excited too.
We were just talking about howyou're a teacher I I didn't know
that.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yes, when I'm not selling my soul on stage to make
people laugh, I teach children.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Do you get money for your soul too?
No, that's not how it works.
We haven't gotten paid to getour souls.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You said selling the soul.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, oh it's selling it for laughter and acceptance?
Oh, okay, but you can.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You can also just say being happy because that's what
.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I've learned too.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Sometimes, when I get up there and it doesn't go well
and the audience hates me, itmakes me feel good because I
deserve it, and that makes mehappy.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
What is it about momming that makes us like we
want it more, though?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's like it's something, and if you have daddy
and mommy issues.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, Well, yeah, both of them.
Yeah, I always think about thegirlfriend.
That doesn't like you, but itjust makes you want her more.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're like okay now I want to do more.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You didn't like that one, huh yeah yeah, yeah, no no
I can do better.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I'm going to push you into a wall and give you this
one.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Oh wait, no.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I ate.
That's why it wasn't funny inbed.
What?
What are you talking about?
Well, on a teacher's salary.
Um, I should ask you, do youhave?
No, I'm just kidding, but um,have you ever had a facial?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
no, no, I actually haven't all right, my wife is
like whatever, like home things,like mass things yeah like
christmas morning, like you'regonna wear this while I make
breakfast she tells you yeah,because I uh, it's kind of weird
that I'm on here because Idon't take care of my skin at
all, except for soap and waterthat's kind of common.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That's very common.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So when I told my wife this is what the podcast I
was on, she goes but why you?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
that's really you don't do anything.
I was like.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Maybe that's why that's the problem that's the
whole point.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, as I bring up these five things, feel free to
interject if you uh, if you haveany commentary on it.
Um, but uh, shall we, uh,should we start?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
we shall all right.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Reason number one men should have a facial is first
of all for acne and uh oilcontrol, because men produce way
more sebum, and I know whatyou're thinking sebum comes out
of your no sebum comes out ofyour pores, Sandra.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh, I thought it was some, you know, like a really
really dirty act done over atthe docks With, like a homeless
guy, sebum.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, oh, a sebum, right, exactly.
And also, when you come in fora facial, I'll give you
extractions.
You know one will haveextractions.
Have you heard of extractionsbefore?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
no so wait you remember when I said I knew
nothing so you just have totreat me like I know nothing, so
we circle back to that yeah, soall the terminology, I don't
know okay.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So if you were having a facial right now, I would
steam you for probably a good10-15 minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I would go in and steam you with this, like
putting steam on your face for awhile.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, open up your, your what other steaming could
there be?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
well, who knows?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean again like a, like a roman bathhouse yeah,
yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, I have a roman bathhouse in my apartment, okay
good, now we have that figuredout, okay, okay um, so I'm gonna
.
I will empty your pores verycarefully.
I wear gloves.
It's the stuff that you wouldprobably want to do on your own
in a mirror, but it's not reallygood to do that, so a lot of
guys do it.
You don't look like you do.
You have pretty tight-lookingpores.
Your pores look tight.
(09:35):
I feel like that's a compliment.
It is Okay.
Good, all right.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Because something happened to my dad once.
I've I've been afraid to pop oruh, you know, blackheads or
pimples, because one time my dadhe had a pimple right here or a
blackhead and he popped it andit didn't.
It must have went under hisskin and it swelled up.
He looked like a lion.
It was like this big it waslike an abscess or something.
Yeah, it was, so it was I waslike I'm never doing that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Wow, that was a good way to learn my dad's in the
elephant man coming this summer.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Dad, do you believe?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
in unicorns.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, so facials.
Basically, we cleanse your skinand it does help regulate the
oil production in your skin, butyou don't want to do too many
extractions because your skinwill actually then compensate
and keep producing more oil.
Like an ex-boyfriend I used tohave that would go into the
bathroom and squeeze his poresfor 25 minutes.
And his pores were like he wasItalian.
His pores were like this, bigand it was because of that.
(10:38):
He was just constantly.
This was the era.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So he was trying to make them smaller by squeezing
them to make them bigger.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But he was just making them worse.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, so don't do that?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh, okay, interesting .
Speaker 1 (10:50):
All right.
So reason number two bettershaving and beard health.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh, okay, matt, I feel like you purposely put this
toward the top for me.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
It does say see James Graves.
Yeah, it does Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Is that okay, but how does that help?
I mean so, what does that do?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Because you're exfoliating the top layer of
your dead skin, the epidermis.
So when the dead skin mixeswith the dirt and oil, it will A
it can create a pimple and B ifyou're not getting rid of that
(11:28):
dead skin.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You're going to get an ingrown hair a lot of times.
Do you ever get ingrowns?
Um, uh, like yes, sometimesyeah occasionally.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And how do you get them out?
Uh, I just, I just let time.
Yeah, yeah, it's actuallybetter.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I like that remember.
Yeah, politely, yeah, but yoursis better time is just.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Please, just look in the mirror, please come out.
Yeah, yeah, whenever you'reready, yeah well, well,
eventually, your skin.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Will you know that layer of skin will come to the
surface and your hair will justfinally poke out.
Well, I guess you know.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I guess the one thing I mean, even when I was a
teenager, that would be the onething I would do if I had a
pimple or something like put ahot towel on it, Okay, and then
just let it to it, and then yeah, all right yeah as long as
you're doing it with somethingthat's very.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I have to make sure that everybody knows this.
If you're going to pop a pimple, do what he said, do what james
said, but make sure thatwhatever you're popping it with
is not your finger that's dirty,um, or something sterile and
you want to go in from the sideand not go down.
Because if you're going down,you're going to pop the the pore
which is already compromised.
That's why it red and it'sgoing to go into the pore and
(12:24):
then spread to the pores aroundit.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh, wow, yeah, and it scars.
I've been doing this all wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Now you know, if you're doing needle drugs, you
don't want to use the sameneedle to pop your pimples Like
if you're doing a round ofheroin or something.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I was going to say it's needlepoint, but okay,
needlepoint.
Oh needlepoint's, even better.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Are heroin addicts big on skincare and needlepoint
and needlepoint, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And needlepoint.
They love crocheting in theirdowntime.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Which is a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, they're just if I'm not poking me, I'm poking
the fabric.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You gotta poke something with a needle, exactly
.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm threading this in something.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Okay, and so also the is going to make your beard
grow more, if that's what you'reinto, but so but.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So then, mainly it's.
If you have a beard, though, soit would it mostly be the steam
, because you what else can youdo for the fit around the facial
?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I would go yeah, I would go around your, okay.
Yeah, I'd go around your facial.
For the most part, I canmassage where your beard is, if
it doesn't bother you, and I canmassage the skin and that
produces more collagen, whichwe'll get to that one I'm
already sold, like I know.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I don't even know if I need the other three reasons.
We'll be back next wednesday um, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
So anti-aging and skin longevity, which is very
important especially in my skinlong I've been trying to make my
skin longer for years.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
None of it works.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
All right.
So sun damage and prematurewrinkles you can get from just
not taking care of your skin.
Like I said, facials boost thecollagen by, you know,
stimulating it.
It stimulates collagen andelastin in your skin.
Okay, so just, you know, justmoving it around kind of makes
it look younger.
Um, and you know, you've seenthose guys who neglect their
skin and they look like shit andthey and they, you know yeah
(14:12):
but then there's also guys thatneglect their skin and look
fabulous.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So you know, it just depends on a lot of its genetic,
honestly I think so, but Ithink you can definitely help
yourself by uh agreeing with youthat's a really good point yeah
, I like this guy yeah yeah, I,occasionally I do too, right
after, right after couplescounseling that's a good time to
like each other rightafterwards yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Reason number four this is just sort of an
emotional thing, but stressrelief and what, sandra,
referring to your own self-care,it's not just vanity, you're
actually relaxing.
Then you're also makingyourself feel better because
you're treating yourself to that, you're pampering yourself,
which you deserve.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I believe in that.
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I wanted to make sure that you did before I moved on
to the next reason why.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think anyone wants to take care of themselves a
little bit, but it's hard.
As a guy like, that's not, it'snot the first thing I think of
of taking care of myself is likeyou're not facial my skin.
Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, no, none of that or like.
If I have dry skin.
I never, I would never considerto like.
It's like man.
My elbows look like they, looklike my, my shoe treads, you
know, like it's super all justlike all gnarly whatever.
I never thought to put lotionon them and no, now I do it
Until me.
Until you and you're like, yourelbows hurt me.
Why are you elbowing me in theface and you're like, if you
have to continue to elbow me inthe face.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Give me like a rash with his elbow.
Alex is rolling his eyes, bythe way.
What's that?
Your elbow to the face?
Oh well, purist man, I elbow.
Okay, you're really into that?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
elbow play.
Yeah, I love it.
Elbow play, I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, yeah, we used to call them elbow and arrows,
um, but that's like if you'respanish well, I thought it was l
bone, l bone, yeah, the l bonethat's like the laughing bone,
but then also l bone oh like, oh, like the bone yeah, yeah well
that one needs to be moisturizedfor sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, you've taken care of that already right, yeah
, you can't have an ashy helmet.
Back to you, james.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
James, as you were saying you don't want to
over-lotion down there though.
No, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
What happens if you over-lotion it?
Well, you can't.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Well, because then it can get Well one.
It gets residue, and then youdon't want that chemicals.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
If you're with your lady friend, he doesn't want to
say it because he's a gentleman.
You get too much sebum.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, you do actually get the sebum's out of control
Really.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Is that what they call, and we can edit this out,
but at least I can beep it outduck butter, is that?
Is that a bad thing to talkabout?
Oh, what's?
I don't know about that, that'snot the stuff that's like under
your testicles or something oh,am I making that up?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I've never had it, so I wouldn't know, I don't know,
I wouldn't know.
There is definitely a clinicalname for it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
All the men are in this room are denying that
they've ever had.
I've, but.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I've never had Maybe dirty men that live under the
streets.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Probably yeah, are there men that live under the
streets.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Are under highway passes.
Yeah and the mole people.
Oh and the mole people.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
yeah, yeah, I'm sorry , I can't let you get away with
anything.
By the way, it's too.
It's ingrained in ourrelationship.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We don't let anything pass.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
No, no, out a bit when we're in a fight, it's good
to do that, though, yeah that'sgood, you keep.
Keep things light, you know orwhat's your other favorite thing
.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You'll go uh oh, in the middle of an argument, I'll
just, I'll just turn over, I'lljust go, we'll be right back,
I'll just like look at the wallor something, just to try every
time.
Yeah, yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And then also, by getting um, by getting a facial,
you're releasing, you'rerelieving stress.
I don't know releasing anythingon my table?
Um, you're, but it's gonnalower the cortisol in your body,
because do you know aboutcortisol?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
remember the beginning?
No, nothing, okay, well,cortisol cortisol is more of a
body thing okay so like umpeople get cortisol I don't take
care of my body either, ohperfect okay, so you're I'm
married, I'm a dad, I'm ateacher.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
When I'm telling jokes, I I have no time to care
about this so you're filled withcortisol, though it sounds like
if you have kids and a wife andyou're teaching and yeah, so
like because it's stress.
Stress induces a hormone inyour body that's called cortisol
oh, oh, that's what that is,yeah oh, I got a lot of that I
got it by the bucket.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, you should have just said it that way.
I'm sorry, I should have ledwith that.
Yeah, oh, I got a lot of that.
I got it by the buckets.
You should have just said itthat way.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I'm sorry I should have led with that.
Yeah, yeah.
How many kids do you have?
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I have four kids.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Holy shit, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, four kids.
You look like a very young manhaving four kids.
I was just going to say that,yeah, you don't look as stressed
out as a person with four kidswould normally look, I usually
ignore them.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
That's good, that's the key.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Your skin looks great , so keep doing what you're
doing.
Yeah, if you have kids, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Aw, that's so nice.
That's what makes you who youare, though You're a very child
guy.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I know, I love my kids.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Although you could be in one of the categories,
they're out into another place.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It all comes rushing out oh, I am a gemini, so there
are two sides people like topoint that out.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Okay, I'm like what do you mean?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, I'm a sagittarius, so people have
called me a horse's ass manytimes I'd like to shoot you with
an arrow as well, yeah, I shootmyself.
I shoot myself on my own hoofvery often was that number four
already?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
uh, I lost.
I don't know how to count.
All right, well, let's go tothe next one.
Um, we did that one.
Okay, wait a second.
Let's go back to this for justone second.
You said normalize it?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
oh, so you mentioned earlier and I want to ask this
question yeah, because guysdon't know.
Typically, like you know, ifyou go into a place to get it
done right, it's going to money,because that's just what it
does you know, when you pay forart.
That's, that's what you do andum did you like that was?
That good.
Well, I am an artiste it'sreally good.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, I like it, I'm listening.
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
By the way, I'm an assistant.
I don't know if you need that,that's I've watched.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I've watched some episodes are you subscribed?
Okay, you've possibly liked it.
I liked it because I liked it.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Whoa dude.
Yeah, that's a lot of pressureon us.
You should don't tell us youreally like us.
I'm just gonna say I mean I'llwatch more maybe change my mind.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, just yeah, don't go toofar.
It was a quick response, yeah,yeah, yeah, you got it loaded in
the chamber, just in case whatwere you gonna say?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
uh, you know, I was gonna say, uh, guys don't know
typically, like what to go lookfor.
Like you know, I would say,maybe, you know, I wouldn't know
.
So if somebody, like, ifsomebody goes into like a, like
same, I'm the same thing withcars like I know enough.
But if somebody says I need apiston shearing, I'll be like,
oh my god, shear the pistons.
What's that gonna cost?
They're like oh, it runs about1500.
I'm like, oh, man, you know,now you can look online or
(20:50):
whatever, but still, you know, Ineed to get some information,
like how much would youtypically spend or what do you
need?
Just to get in there and justto make yourself feel like you
took care of yourself and youdon't look like just a ball of
shit.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know, I've heard people say that I would feel
overwhelmed by it, like you know, when you go get your car oil
changed, like you're saying.
And then they're like, like youknow, when you go get your card
oil change, like you're saying,and then they're like you need
this and this and like I'm not acar guy, so I'm like I guess
you better do all that today,because I need the car to work
tomorrow yeah, oh my god, get towork already, like thank god I
(21:25):
made it here.
God dang so glad I made it tothe jiffy lube today.
I didn't know, I almost died,that's what they call me the
jiffy lube do they really?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
no, oh okay, I think it's like peanut butter and oil,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It just came out, alex, I don't, it just came out.
Um well, I was gonna bring.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
James was saying something oh, what, oh, so, yeah
, so like, uh, how would you?
I would feel overwhelmed, goingsomewhere like of, like what,
what do I need?
Or what's the most effectiveway, because it all feels
foreign to me, like the.
So I think the normalizing itwould be good, because then I
would know what to even ask forand where to even go, if you're
a man, you're walking into a spa, I would say just ask for a
(22:05):
deep cleansing facial.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It's very basic cleansing, exfoliating
extractions, a mask, maybe somemassage back of the neck, stuff
like that.
Um, a lot of times, though,women underestimate men, or they
get them right on the nosebecause they men don't know
which one to pick, so they callit a sports facial oh oh
interesting I always thoughtthat was so insulting to men
like yeah, no it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean, yeah, I guess I was like I'll sign, I'm
climbing up for the sports.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, right well, they have that place where
you cut your hair called SportsClips, do you Like?
Why would you ever call it?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, it's like, okay guys, I go to Sports Clips.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Do you really?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, that's my place , I go.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, see.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, I live in Lancaster, so I go to sports
clubs.
That's where I go.
I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
My mom worked at Fantastic Sam's for a number of
years after she had her ownplace, and I never once met a
Sam in that place, dude, letalone fantastic.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah, it was more like it was marvelous, but
that's not the point.
Yeah, I met a lot of mediocremics, but never a fantastic.
That's what they should havecalled it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, mediocre mics.
That's what we go to on theweekends Open mics.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Open mics?
Yeah, the mediocre ones.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
But we just put sports in front of anything
You're saying.
It makes sense complete sportsclips.
If you put sport in front of acar, they have sport minivans
and you're like what's that?
And they're like it's a way tosell things.
We put letters on the car thatsay sport and be yeah, I'll do
it.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it works.
It feels more manly.
Yeah, a lot of times men'sfacials also may or may not be
slightly shorter than a woman'sfacial, just because maybe we're
not sure that you're going towant to commit a whole hour to
this.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Women take longer to finish.
I've heard that it's very true.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Why does that sound so familiar?
That sounds-.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Ask your wife.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Oh, skincare familiar that sounds, ask your wife oh,
skincare, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 20 to 40 minutes so are
you saying like they, you know,they typically that because men
typically don't know, or they'rejust like okay, you know
because they don't know whatthey don't know like the facials
take longer or they take longer.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, okay, generally , I mean it's changing.
Now more and more men arestarting to get facials.
Um, I have more and more maleclientele, which is nice.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Um, and did you break out?
Like different, like sense,like, oh, like, for women it's
lavender and this, but when it'sthe guy's like, well, this is
my leather collection sandalwoodsandalwood actually, yes, okay,
yeah, yeah, men love, I love, Ishould have brought that one.
It works yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And it's, yeah, it's woodsy.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, Mm-hmm, there is something about like so much
about wood.
That's the reason why I reallyenjoy going into Home Depot.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I smell the lumber.
The first thing.
I don't even want to buildanything, but.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I like the smell of wood, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Absolutely.
They should make skincare linefor men, to just call it lumber.
Oh see, that's good.
Okay, now I'm.
Now you're selling me right.
Okay, I'm glad we stopped atnumber four guys.
Yeah, I feel this is this.
Number four is the tippingpoint for me.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, before I was entertaining you now.
I'm now, I'm in it, now you'relearning okay well, what if we
told you you could invest inlumber right now?
Like number five is just apitch for lumber.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
This was all a ploy.
Yeah, this is where the meetingtransitions for a mere ten
thousand dollars this.
This is how they get you incults.
Yes, yeah, they promise youlike uh familiar fragrances yeah
, and then, you're like and youcould get it on the ground floor
yeah and lumber also go inthere and tell someone all your
dirtiest confessions.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're yeah, yeah, you're gonna hold two cologne
bottles instead of cans.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I don't know, it's a scientologist too, oh yeah yeah,
that's right, and then you haveto like one of them has to be
inserted into your body and youhave to record it on video and
then if you say anything, peoplethey'll put that video out.
Yeah, yeah, it's just like youknow, like friends, you know,
like when you had to enter anylike when you enter into any
business you're supposed to givesomebody something to blackmail
you by, just in case it's aditty party.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It's a ditty party, no, not a dinner party A ditty
party, oh a ditty party.
A ditty dinner party.
That's the next level, diddyjust called them dinner parties.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Everybody else called them a ditty party.
He just called them parties gettogether okay you know.
And then all this illegal shitwas happening.
Isn't that crazy?
To him, it was just like anormal thing but did has anyone?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I thought, what if did?
He was just what if he was justgoing to bed early and everyone
else was having the party?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
it just was happening .
Oh my god that's a really goodpoint as a property owner, I
should not like dude.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
That's true my my wife and I will have people over
and she just sneaks off andit's like that that irish
goodbye, just goes to bed.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So she's not responsible.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
It's happening what if diddy?
What if diddy's in bed by 8 30?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
oh my god, I just thought about something.
Is that why some people not mehave issue with irish, because
they're always just skirtingresponses?
They're like I gotta get out ofhere and they just kind of walk
away and it's like yeah wherethe hell's mclanahan?
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I gotta wash his dishes why, am I washing the
dishes?
These are his.
It's his kitchen, you know andmclanahan.
I'll tell you he's anyway, I'msorry I got sidetracked by the
irish I was just trying tofigure out a way to work in the
golden girls but but I couldn'tdo it.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh, that's perfect.
You just did.
Yeah, lou McClanahan, nice,yeah, but it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It didn't work Sometimes, just stating what you
were going to say I know, I'mjust telling you all the joke I
wanted to tell.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I'm going to figure out how to talk about golf, but
now that we're here, yeah yeah,yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And then cortisol can also cause breakouts.
It can make you have stomachfat, it can make you have
cortisol face is that why?
I'm fucking fat well, I don't,okay, I can't even I was trying
not to cuss, but it felt so goodjust there.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, it was the alliteration, do I?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
just need a facial.
Is that what is why I'm theheaviest I've ever been in, I
think, but I've never had afacial.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Maybe that's it lymphatic drainage.
I learned.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
I've never had a facial.
Maybe that's it, it could belymphatic drainage.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I've learned that too , oh man.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh yeah, that's right .
That's another good point.
That wasn't one of the reasons,but just the lymphatic drainage
alone.
It helps to de-puff, and sowe're pushing the sort of
stagnant lymph that's in theskin out down and into all of it
.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, you said jolly, but I heard jolly yeah is that
because I'm kind of against annaclaus right now.
I think I think, however, itsounds good to you.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah I mean, I think that I think the jowls can be
jolly, that's you can have jolly, jolly jowls yeah, totally
sometimes, because I know for me, like when I like, even if I
lose some weight, I still willhave what's called no separation
between my like, like rightover here.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'm going to help you with that.
It just looks like one solid.
Yeah, I'm going to help youwith that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like, if you don't, believe in geometry and angles.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Look at my face.
All you have to do is put thetongue to the roof of your mouth
and see the difference.
Well, you have a beard, so, andyou kind of have one too.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, that's why I have a beard.
So, and you kind of have onetoo.
Well, that's why I have a beard, because if I don't have a
beard, this looks like a can ofbusted biscuits.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
This is to give myself a face, I like it, that
sounds like something I wouldwant to put my head against.
So you know what I mean If youhad like a can of busted
biscuits.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You just described me and my wife's first date.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's right there that's so nice see you were
there for each other.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, busted biscuits .
That's her bedroom name.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
For me that's not a bad name, right that's hilarious
whenever you're ready to bustit, just do it okay biscuits
come here all right.
The last one is kind of I don'tknow, it's confidence boost,
(29:42):
because we kind of talked aboutthat.
But when you're not just takingcare of yourself, but when your
skin looks better, you're goingto feel better.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I like how confidence boost was the one you sounded
the least confident saying.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
That's hilarious I guess Confidence boost, I don't
know how I feel about this one Ifeel like it could have ended
on a bigger uh crescendo, butit's so oh, because, far as
being like one of the main, oneof the five reasons men should,
or it's in best interest to getuh facial or take care of the
skin, is because the confidenceboosts right that could have
been number one I feel like itcould have been number one
(30:20):
because it wasn't like aphysical thing.
Right.
And then number five could havebeen like you have, you know,
taking money out of your wallet.
Sometimes it's too heavy, youknow, so let's just get rid of
it.
I see why I think.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I see why you'd have it number five, though, because
that's the long okay one of thelong-term effects right that you
would want.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I can see why it'd be number five and first
impressions when you're meetingsomeone in a business meeting or
an interview or even dating,things like that like your first
impression if somebody'slooking at your face and you
look busted?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
yeah, I've been busted, but yeah if somebody
looks at you and they call youpuffy and you're not ditty, then
it's probably you have a puffyface.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So you have puffy face, which is just sex
trafficking.
I told you that story beforethe cameras rolled.
I didn't know you were going toshare it.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Well, here's the thing no one was going to know,
but now they know because youimplicated yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Don't say those two words together again, because
I'm probably going to have tobelieve it now.
The S and T words together,because YouTube's pretty,
they're pretty sensual, sensualtrafficking yes, is that?
Yeah, we're talking aboutturtles, soft turtles.
Thank you, I said it wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I don't know French that well oh my gosh, that's
amazing that was.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I love this town is that.
Are they doing facials in thenext room?
Yeah, we just watched the two.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I don't know if they were, if they were, if they were
trans, if they were super tall.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
If they were in a 60s band.
They were beautiful people.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I couldn't see their faces.
I just saw the outfits.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I was into it, whatever it was, I was too.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
We all just went like Whoa.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I was like If that's where the facials Are happening.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I'm gonna go After this.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
That would make sense , if.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I could just walk.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
To a few steps from this meeting right now to get a
facial.
Yeah, oh yeah, totally I woulddo it.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Convenience for guys, I think.
And also you don't have to goout and spend a bunch of money
on this kind of stuff too.
You can get the basics and takecare of yourself at home.
But going out to do it, do alittle research and then you can
know what to get or not,typically if it's an like an
hour.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Is it like a facial and if you, if you're like
relaxed enough to go to sleep,they're doing a good job, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So you know, you brought up a good point Like so
how would someone, especiallysince I don't know anything, how
would I even know, other than,of course, calling you, because
you'd be my first person?
But if, if they don't know you,how would a guy find or look
for for, like a quality personto go to, because I'm sure
there's so many places to gothat are crappy?
And then if you get a crapexperience, then you know, then
(32:43):
you never want to go back.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
You can start at like one of those corporate places
like burke, williams orsomething like that, and they'll
just give you like a very basiceuropean spa facial okay yeah,
you can kind of count on themfor that.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
They're not going to go over and above I think it's
great that you think I knowwhere any of these places are,
because I know.
But now that you said that I'mgoing to watch this later and
I'll know to look up that nameand then when you drive by them.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You'll be like oh, you'll like because, that's what
happened to me.
I was like Burke Williams.
I was like oh, I thought thiswas a paint place for the
longest time, but clearly it wasSherwin Williams.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I get my hair done at sports clips.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't know other burgers, it's sports smash it's
a sports smash burger yeah, thebaseball bat that sounds good,
smash it.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You made me hungry, oh my god, me too the biscuits
in the, in the burgers.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, all right, we're gonna wrap this up.
So, bonus segment skincare mythor fact.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm gonna read these to you, okay the whole show
could have been this I love mythor or fact.
Okay, we're going to start.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Okay, so don't look.
You can't look at my notes.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I've never looked at anything.
It's a giant screen, I knowJust focus on Sandro.
Okay, so I'm going to say astatement You're either going to
say it's true or it's justtotal BS.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
All right, men don't need moisturizer because their
skin is oilier false Total.
Bs.
That's right, that's a myth.
Oily skin definitely stillneeds hydration, because it
needs to keep it regulated.
Gotcha Shaving acts as anexfoliant, and so men don't need
(34:10):
to exfoliate separately.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I'm going to say myth , BS, bullshit.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It sounds so true, though, because otherwise you
sound like you're.
I mean, at least for thatportion of your face.
I'm going to say myth, bs,bullshit.
It sounds so true, though,because otherwise you sound like
you're.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I mean, at least for that portion of your face, oh
yeah yeah, yeah, I'm going tomake you both right, because
it's half myth, half truth.
It's going to remove dead skin,which is great, because we do.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I like compliments?
Yeah, exactly it works.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
It was nice.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Dermoplaning is what women do, but you guys are
actually shaving, but you aregetting the dead skin around
this area, but not so much,maybe, around here, because
you're not shaving your foreheadunless you're, you have
hirsutism or whatever well, Imean, you haven't met my in-laws
, so where I come from, mypeople, my people all right.
Using bar soap on your face isokay uh, yeah, I don't that's no
(34:59):
, it's disgusting, okay, Ididn't even give james it's
because.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Is it because the last thing someone else washed
and then the first thing?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I'm washing wow, that's another move.
I hadn't even thought aboutthat.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's not self-cleaning those soap bars no
, they certainly are not.
No, I'm a gel fan, I mean I'm,I'm, I'm a sports clubs guy, but
but I mean I, I, I'm not amonster I use bath gel.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Okay, so a bar soap, as you can imagine it's going to
.
It's going to make your skin sodry, like that squeaky, and it
takes up all the natural oilsand it leaves it in a different
weird um, it takes the moisturebarrier off your skin, which you
don't want, because it takes awhile for it to get back.
All right, men's skin isdifferent from women's so they
need different products.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I would think that's true.
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yes, men's skin is generally oilier and thicker, so
there are certain things thatare going to work better for a
man's skin and you can ask yourlocal esthetician.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
That's why I've never taken insults because I have
thick skin and you don't want toruin that you don't want to
ruin it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
No, because it'll thin it out all right, drinking
more water alone is going toclear up your skin alone?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
no, I think it helps, but not alone, right?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think it helps same thing, yeah but yeah, hydration
definitely helps and most ofthe men I know are completely
dehydrated.
You have some good hints in thephrasings of these questions
I'm like all right.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I feel like you're telling me in between the lines.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm trying to get it into your
brain.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It's like doing the at-home driving course.
It's like the answers are inthe question bro.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
They're so easy, man.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
So they're so easy, man, why did I fail?
Three times yeah, I don't know,I have no idea.
Oh, that was actual driving.
Yes, yeah, all right, so um.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Should I ask james the question?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
well, first of all, thank you so much for coming I
just, yeah, that's a good move.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, yeah, thank you so much for having me.
This is fun, you're fantastic.
This is one of our first of theshorter episodes that we're
doing I'm glad I was the firstto be like we don't need to talk
to him that long.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I thought you were going to say I'm glad, because I
didn't really want to be hereat all.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say.
Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
But now.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And now I'm going to ask you a serious question.
Where do people find you onsocial media?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Okay, yeah, so I'm on Instagram and it at James
Graves comedy on Instagram andthat's crazy, ves, ves.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, yep, alrighty.
Well, thank you again for beinghere.
I hope to see you soon on ashow.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Absolutely yeah, and I like this episode was it was
condensed, but we, there was alot of good we we put everything
, all the energy into that,elongating it Exactly Okay, so
shut up.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Shut up.
Okay, all right.
So this is going to be atWednesday at 3 am, and we'll see
you guys next week.
Bye.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Bye, anyways, so let's talk a little more, okay,
oh good.
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