January 29, 2025 • 30 mins
"Polarity isn't a weapon to get what you want - it's an art of moving through life together" - dive into this raw conversation about how masculine and feminine dynamics are meant to liberate, not control.
Still learning how to do podcast quickies, Meg and Jacob sits down and discusses the misuse of polarity in relationships. From Instagram gurus to red pill ideology, they break down why using masculine and feminine concepts to control your partner isn't just ineffective - it's missing the whole damn point of conscious partnership.
This isn't your typical polarity talk - it's a vulnerable exploration of how these energies can either liberate or suffocate your relationship. Whether you're deep in the polarity world or just curious about masculine-feminine dynamics, this episode offers fresh perspectives on creating authentic connection beyond rigid rules and roles.
They also riff off on:
- Why weaponizing masculine/feminine terms kills intimacy
- The difference between surface-level and deep polarity
- How to create safety instead of demanding change
- Understanding both light and dark aspects of each energy
- Moving beyond black and white relationship dynamics
- The art of dancing between energies naturally
- Creating space for both partners to be fully expressed
and so much more...
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So of course, when we learnabout polarity, when we first
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read intimate communion, or welisten to some of these people
on on on Instagram, we're like,oh, this makes sense. I'm going
to use this to get what I want,when an actual fact like we know
that it's not it's a way to movethrough life. It's a form of
artistry, and it's a way toconnect deeper, not only with
our partner, but with ourselves.
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Yo, yo, yo. Lovers, welcome.
Welcome to sex, love andeverything in between, where the
O'Neills you're here with MeganJacob, and this is the place we
have really uncensoredconversations about sex,
intimacy and relationships.
We're super excited you're here.
Enjoy this episode.
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Hello, beautiful people. What upgang? What up lovers? What up
people, family, friends,community. We are back this
one's gonna be a quick onetoday, because we are still
learning how tohave quickies. Well,
we're learning how to do that,but we're learning how to fit
podcasts in around beingparents. It's a whole new thing,
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and we only have a certainamount of time today, so let's
go. Okay. Three things that youneed to know about. This, this,
this, this, okay, bye. Itdoesn't really suit our style of
podcasting, which is we justtalk and we talk about what,
like, what's been happening inlife, and then we find our way
back to the topic ofconversation. Yeah. We struggle
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with rules. I definitelystruggle with time rules. And
tell me when to do something.
Try again, yeah, but expect somemore of these succinct, smaller
episodes. Now my parents, we'regonna succinctify.
But today we wanna talk about,what
do we wanna talk about? We wannatalk about why it's necessary to
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stop weaponizing polarity, tostop weaponizing the terms
masculine and feminine,and something that
I don't know if this ever reallyshowed up in our relationship.
I'd love to hear yourperspective on that if I used to
weaponize these terms. But whatwe mean by that is what I often
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see in my work with women, iswomen diving into this work
around polarity women, divinginto, you know, the dynamics, or
the,yeah, the dynamics of masculine
and feminine, and wanting tofeel, feeling this desire in
their body to experience more ofthe masculine from their man,
from their partner,but then coming back into their
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relationship. And really likeweaponizing this concept, really
using it as a way to illuminateto their partner how they're not
being enough right now, right?
You're not in your masculine.
You need to be more masculine.
You're being too feminine rightnow, or vice versa, men coming
into women and being like youjust need to surrender to me.
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Why aren't you surrendering?
You're being too masculineand really using these terms to
just using these terms to makeeach other feel not enough.
It's as if your projection gameis just up leveled. It's like I
used to emasculate youpassively. Now I'm going to do
it with the right terminologyand make sure that I get it
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right. It's projection game uplevel. It's like before, before
I used to nag now, I like pointout that you're not good enough,
yes, and we think it's okaybecause, oh no, I'm learning
these. This is like a spiritualconcept. This is like, I'm
learning from from relationshipcoaches or from these big
teachers. I'm allowed to dothis. I'm allowed to point out
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that you're not being masculine.
I'm allowed to point out thatyou need to, you need to be more
feminine in this moment. But thetruth is, that's not how you
play this game. That's not ifyou want,
if you want to, if you want toplay in polarity, if you want to
deepen into or play with these,these dynamics of masculine and
feminine in your relationship toyou know, deepen the sexual
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tension, to ignite the polarityin the field of your
relationship. That's not the wayto do it if you also desire to
keep a strong connection of loveand intimacy and respect, right?
It's not respectful to use theseterms as weapons.
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Of course, the piece that yeah,be done. That's it succinct.
What I believe is that polarityis what governs the entire
universe. So these push and pullof two opposing forces, two
opposing energies, rather andwhen we try to use them for
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personal gain, aka, use themfrom our shoulders up, or using
them intellectually, if I saythis, then I will get what I
want. Or if I.
Point out that he's notmasculine, then he's going to be
more masculine. That way I canbe more feminine. We're putting
conditions and hinges oneverything that we're bringing
to our partner, bringing to ourrelationship. One of the key
things that I see men do isthat, well, if she's submissive,
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then I can lead, oh, which is,like, such a,
such a small minded, narrowminded, rather approach to
polarity. It's like, cool if shejust surrenders, then I can, I
can be in my masculine or she'snot being feminine enough. She
keeps trying to do everythinglike this is where you are
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utilizing polarity as a way tokeep yourself comfortable, not
to grow, not to evolve, not todeepen with your partner. And
this is the classic,what it's called the red pill
movement. I don't it's got to dowith the matrix, but
essentially, there's a lot ofmen's coaches or a lot of
prominent male figures out therespeaking into polarity from a
wounded place, oh, from a placewhere I don't want to be
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challenged by life or feminineso I'm going to create a dynamic
where I get to be in control,and I don't have to ever really
be invited deeper into my owninner world.
This is, this is, and this isbecause men have been taught
that their value is foundthrough their ability to control
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things, control money, controlpower, control women, control
resources. And this is where wedevelop an understanding that
everything outside of us issomething that we must gain
power over. And if we don't,then we don't have resources. We
don't have value, therefore weare not enough. So when men
bring this weaponization ofpolarity to the space, what
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they're really saying is, Idon't feel good enough.
I need you to be moresubmissive, surrendered so I can
feel masculine. Yes, like yousaid before, it's conditional,
right? It's hugely conditional,deeply conditional. And I would
say this is reallywe talk about this a lot, how
these dynamics of like playingwith the masculine and feminine,
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they can be done at a verysurface level, which is what
we're talking about now or at avery surface level, which is
seeing these energies as veryblack and white, like the
feminine is submissive andsurrendered, the masculine is in
control and has the directionwhere there's so much more
nuanced than that, and so muchmore Like, for example, the
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feminine. There is a leadershipto the feminine in many, many
ways. The feminine holds suchdeep qualities of leadership.
She leads in the way she sheemotes. She leads in the way she
takes up space and she inhabitsher body. She leads in the way
that she brings her heart andshe brings her desires forth and
to just simply see the femininefrom at or both the masculine
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and feminine in the surfacelevel way is really
diluting, I don't know if that'sthe right word I'm looking for,
but diluting how much you canexperience in your relationship.
It's like, what's it? What's itwhen it's like, clogging
something like the whenthere's like, something pink,
yeah, it's like, kinking, yeah,I'm imagining it's like trying
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to watch a color TV in black andwhite. Yeah, that's what it
feels like. It's like our blackand white. When there's this,
there's this full range ofcolors that are available
through the, you know, thespectrum of polarity and the
different textures that comethrough from the feminine, like
the to kind of just likeprobably anchor in some kind of
not teaching, but deeper levelof awareness, there's light and
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dark of each and the lightfeminine is very different to
the dark feminine. The lightmasculine is very different to
the dark masculine. And theseare two opposing
energies within the one pole.
And that's what's beautifulabout this, is that quite often,
a lot of men want the light,feminine, the submissive, the
soft, thethe beautifully, uh, nurturing,
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nurturing, yeah. But then thosemen will go and watch really
crazy porn, or they'll go andlike, forget, get their fix of
the dark feminine in a way thatthey don't ever have to put
themselves at risk of beingobliterated, being called deeper
into the lair. And this, this iswhy a lot of men struggle with
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polarities, because they don'tsee it through the they see it
through a black and white lens.
And they go and they readscientific papers and they
listen to men speak very, veryconfidently online in 92nd reels
about how this structure is theway it's always been in, the way
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it's always going to be, nomatter what that we're fixed in
this.
Base, that women are submissiveand that they have to do what
men say, and men are theleaders, and they have to take
responsibility and protect andprovide that note at all costs.
And there's a beautifulsimplicity in that, that men
attach to as well. There's a,oh, that's, I can do that all
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right, if that's just the way itis, then I won't have to worry
about then I can just get towork and then we can just relax.
Ah, but that's not what life isabout. Life is not about
creating comfort and creatingrigidity. Yes, it's not. Life is
about being able to movenaturally through the world.
Move naturally. And when I saynaturally, I mean move with the
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seasons and the flavors and thetextures and the pulse of life
that's here in this moment. Andif you look at nature, there's a
beautiful chaos to it. When welook at our modern world, we
have sanitized everything. We'vetried to create this
very controlled environment. Soof course, when we learn about
polarity, when we first readintimate communion, or we listen
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to some of these people on, onon Instagram, we're like, oh,
this makes sense. I'm gonna usethis to get what I want, when an
actual fact, like, we know thatit's not. It's a way to move
through life. It's a form ofartistry, and it's a way to
connect deeper, not only withour partner but with ourselves.
Something you,yeah, I want to, like, deepen
into that, because I think ifyou're using these tools, or
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let's use our example for ourrelationship. For example, once,
when I first read the bookintimate communion by David
data, this is like myintroduction into this work.
I very much attached to themasculine and feminine in this
really surface level. Wayover the past eight years, I
have deepened into and widenedmy experience and my
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understanding of both of both ofthese energies and essences. And
I would say we play with theseenergies and this dynamic in our
partnership so that we can feelmore of ourselves and more
alive, like for me,resting into our relationship
and it being a place where I canunleash and rest into and bring
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more of my feminine like, youknow, my oracular nature, the
part of me that can see things,the part of me that feels so
sensitively, the part of me thatis full spectrum in my emotions,
the part of me that yeah, isdeeply attuned and deeply
sensitive, like all of thesedifferent parts,
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I feel like more of myself,because our relationship is a
space where I get To rest intothat part of me. And I'm
assuming, from what I've seen,you've come more alive in
yourself with our relationshipbeing a place that welcomes more
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of your masculine energy, yourfeminine energy is welcome. In
fact, that's something you knowwe're playing into right now,
like even, even the way you saidabout
your birthday recently and yourreceivership and these it's not
as if we don't honor that weboth have the opposite force
within us as well, or energywithin us.
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But really, what I'm getting athere is if you're using these
concepts in your relationship,and if you're starting to play
with polarity, and you'refeeling less like yourself,
you're feeling less free, you'refeeling less alive, you're not
doing itright. If you're feeling more
controlled, especially as awoman, or you're feeling like
you're fucking it up and notgetting it right, and yeah,
you're feeling like you'regetting it wrong, like that's
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not the point of this. The pointof this is to make you feel
freer in your system, moreliberators to liberate, more
life force, more of yourself,more of your gifts. And any
other way, in my personalopinion, if you're playing with
these dynamics and you feelanything but that,
that's it's not it's not it,you've gone the wrong direction.
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Yeah, that's essentially you'replaying on the surface, or
you're using this in a way as,yeah, like we said earlier, like
weaponizing, like you're usingit as a way of, like, rules, and
it's, it's you're not beingthat's not it. You need to be
more masculine in this moment aswell. I just want to riff here.
Um,it's also a way, when I, when I
see people using these dynamics,and it's I can see how easy it
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can be. It's a way to notactually honor the truth of the
moment in a relationship. So forexample, if your man, if you're
a woman, that really desires tofeel the strength and the
unwaveringness of your man'smasculine energy in relationship
and the depth of hisconsciousness, but there's a
moment where he's wobbled,there's a moment where he's
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feeling stressed and he'sYeah, you can just feel his
stress and consumed by lifetotally. That is not a moment to
say you're not being masculineenough, not masculine. Hey, I'm
not feeling your consciousness.
You.
No, like in that moment, givethat guy a fucking break. Your
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practice as a partner isn't tosay you're doing it wrong and
make it about you, which isreally what we do in those
moments. And I've been guilty ofthis in the past. Like I need
Where did your unwaveringnessgo? It's how can I love this
man? Really fucking well rightnow,
how can I love him? I'm gonnalet, I'm gonna remind you, maybe
straight because I'm gonnaremind him that it's okay to
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feel right now I'm gonna, I'mgonna love him so he feels
comfortable and able to feelthese feelings. Like,
I really wanna sorry. I justreally wanna change that word
comfortable to Safe, safe. Yeah,it's not gonna feel comfortable
to feel your feelings if you'rea man, okay, I love that, like
when your partner provides asafe space for that wobble,
rather than point out that it'swrong. That's when the that's
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when the beauty of polarity,like unlocks a deeper level. And
vice versa, if a womanis, you know, this is classic,
when a man and you know thatdynamic you said before about
the red pill and and when mentake this really surface level
and black and white, it's likeyou're being too masculine if
you're not surrendering, oryou're being too masculine if
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you're not letting me lead. Iwrote this post years ago about
this, and I'll probably repostit this week when this episode
drops. But if a woman isn'tsurrendering, she's not always
being too masculine. Sometimesthat's the most feminine fucking
thing a woman can do, becauseshe's not feeling safe and she's
discerning. She's saying it'sactually not safe for me to
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surrender. This isn't a safecontainer for me to surrender.
I'm not actually feeling a deeplevel of presence and
consciousness from this person.
So it's not safe. Why would mybody unlock for you? Why would I
rest into this space I don'tfeel safe to
and so telling a woman thatyou're being too masculine in
that moment isn't creating moresafety. It's not creating an
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environment for her to softenand open and be more in her
body, right? It's making herfeel wrong. And women have spent
1000s of years being told thatthey're wrong and broken and
yeah,imagine going to the ocean when
it's really, really big swelland the waves are crashing, and
you go, excuse me, ocean that'snot feminine, that's not very
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soft and surrendered. Can youjust like, chill out, please. I
want to go for a swim. Can younot be so? Can you not be so,
like, chaotic, so, like, You'rebeing too much right now. Ocean,
grind, vast. Ocean. Like, don'tdo that. Like, I need to go for
a swim. My, my need for comfortis overrides. Your, your, your
expression, your,true expression. And I feel
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for those of you that are like,oh and be honest with yourself,
like, for those of you thatmight even feel like, oh my
gosh, I do this. I do this, itmay be a really subtle way or
maybe a very overt way. But ifyou're feeling like, oh my gosh,
I use these terms to point outwhen my partner's not doing it
or not in the energy that I wantthem to be in
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the whole thing, because he'sspeaking, yeah, into the
microphone.
Next time you feel that desireto say something, stop, take a
breath. And instead of saying,I'm gonna point out where
they're not being masculine orwhere they're not being
feminine, can you actuallyattune to two things? What's the
truth of the moment? Right? Isit actually necessary that they
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are in their masculine or intheir feminine in that moment?
Can't Can't the truth fucking bethat whatever is alive in them
is, what is needed in themoment. Secondly, how can I
create the environment to helpthem feel safer, to rest into
their natural essence? So forexample, if it's a man and and
his natural essence, the part ofhim where he feels most alive
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and he wants to bring more of tothe relationship, is his
masculine and you don't feel himdeeply seated in that in a
moment,instead of telling him you're
getting it wrong, you need to bemore masculine. I need you to be
more masculine. What would itlook like to contemplate how,
what? How can I create anenvironment where he feels safe
to rest back into that maybe,um, maybe it's cooking him
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dinner and nurturing him right,so that he feels like back in
his body and not so in his head.
Maybe it's just like gentlyreminding him what a powerful
motherfucker and that he's gotthis, yeah, like
really shifting this, trying toget what you want from your
partner to how can I love thembetter? How can I support them
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back into,not even back into, yeah, I'm
sure. I'm sure what I'm sayingis landing. I don't even
want a podcast. I just want tohang out with this baby. Are we
liking our little babbles in thebackground? I might.
Want to feed him. Just give me alittle feed. Yeah. Anything
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else you want to bring? I thinkthis is setting us up for our
next episode. Guys, we're goingto do a an episode around doing
the doing your own work when inrelationship, like doing like
Shadow Work, inner work, andworking on yourself whilst also
in a relationship with yourpartner. Like, what we're really
speaking to is, and I want tojust take a moment to honor
everyone that is excited bypolarity, like you've got to
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start somewhere. You have tostart somewhere. And it's easy
to see these, these models andthese, these frameworks and
these concepts as your yoursaving grace, as you know, the
light at the end of the tunnelfor a lot of people. I know when
people get a hold of the lovelanguage, is like, Oh, all
right, I'm gonna buy flowersevery Thursday night for my
partner, and then that's gonnasolve all of our problems,
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because she loves presents, andshe loves to know that I'm
thinking about her. So I'm gonnaput in my calendar flowers every
Thursday and then you do thatfor a month, and it becomes
stale. It no longer becomes thespontaneous, oh, he's thinking
of me. It's like, oh, he's doingwhat he's always done, Ah, okay,
following a form. Oh, he'sfollowing a formula to make his
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life more comfortable. So whatwe're doing is a relationship is
around ongoing depth, growth andevolution, and we're deepening
together. That means that bothof us have to be doing our own
work, not just grabbing hold ofthe love languages and then
looking at attachment styles,and be like, I'm anxious,
avoidant. So as long as youdon't make me anxious, I won't
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be avoidant.
What do you mean? What do youmean? So, like, we've got a tip
toe around each other, yetagain, we've got to create
control mechanisms to stop usfrom actually addressing the
thing that our relationshipwants us to heal.
This is why polarity is likesuch a great it's such a great
place to start because it givesyou a framework to understand
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the energies. But those energiesrequire you to come down and
live them. Live with thoseenergies through your body, not
to use them as an intellectualformula that if I lead, she
follows. If she follows, I willlead. Or you aren't doing it
right. I'm over here being in myfeminine, but you're not being
in your masculine. Get it right,so that we can feel this hot
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connection where it's like,that's not, that's not and, and,
you know, sometimes this is theportal to the depth, right? We
need to play with something inthe surface to be able to deepen
into it. But again, I just wantto reiterate, if that if you're
feeling a level of, if you'refeeling more controlled, or,
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yeah, like you're you're gettingit wrong, or there's this energy
of, like, yeah, feeling not goodenough, as you begin to play
with these energies, it's, it'snot it, it's not it so, like,
the the the place where you wantto move towards is feeling free
or more liberated, right? Andmore, I would say, more you,
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yeah, the US, you that you couldbe the the funny thing here is,
like, imagine you're a woman,and you've tapped into the
polarity world, and your mangoes off to work for the day,
and you stay home, and you selfpleasure, and you put on a red
robe, and you buy flowers foryourself, and you put on your
sensual, feminine embodimentplaylist, and you do all of
that. And then your man arriveshome at five, and he doesn't
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instantly take you, doesn'tinstantly come home and just
grab you and just ravish you.
And you're like, Well, I didwhat I was meant to do. Why
aren't you doing what you'remeant to do? And what you're
meant todo? I'm in my feminine. Why
aren't you in your mouth? Whyhave you not come through the
door instantly being drawn intoyour leadership? Because I've
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been in my feminine all day.
One thing that I've learned isthat it's very there's a
difference between cultivatingyour feminine energy and
cultivating your masculineenergy and then bringing that
that texture, or that texture ofenergy to your relationship. So
for men, when we go out to workand we're going getting after
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it, my hyper focused on bringinghome the bacon, making money to
providewe're not in the relationship.
We're outside of therelationship, doing what we need
to do, to give to therelationship. But when we're in
the relationship, we're actuallyin the dance. Same for a woman,
if you're, if you're if you goto work, or you go and do
whatever you do in your feminineembodiment,
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when you come back in, when youcome back into connection with
your partner, there's adifference between Bri between
bringing the texture of youryour your feminine energy, and
sitting there expecting yourpartner to bring the masculine
because you've been in yourfeminine all day. And same thing
if you come home after work andyou think you've been in your
masculine all day, and yourwoman doesn't instantly greet
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you with a with nourishment andsubmission. And what can I do
for you? You're my lord, Saviorand master,
then you've missed the point.
You missed the point of bringingyour energy to the relationship.
And with this, this is not a whogoes first game. It's let's
develop awareness, and once, whobecomes aware first.
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This is the one that's invitedto bring through the texture. So
sometimes it's going to be thewoman, sometimes it's going to
be the man, yeah, and this isreally, I feel like we close up
in a moment. Butthis is really, again, I just
want to reiterate the piecearound this isn't about like,
what can you get from yourpartner? I'm going to use this
so I get what I want from mypartner.
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This is more about what can weexperience in our union, like
what becomes possible like forus. For example,
I feel most at home when I amdeeply in my body, deeply
emotive, deeply like, you know,embodied and alive, and filling
the space with my energy, likeI'm, that's, that's, that's the
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feminine. She's alive, she'smovement, she's, you know, and I
would say, your gifts in ourrelationship, and you would feel
most you. Am I right in sayingwhen you are bringing the
rootedness when you are bringingthe consciousness, yeah, when
I'm like, for me, when I'm ableto focus, I focus on
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the space like for me, like evenlike the way that I
like for me, a board my favoriteboard game is a puzzle. Like, I
like the like, the thewitnessing and the consciousness
that it requires to, like, bepresent with that. Whereas for
you, like, you want somethingthat's like, interactive and
like, well, let's make noise.
Let's like, whereas for me, Iwould like to just sit in
silence and do a puzzle. I thinkthat's and
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I think that that's like, thatdoesn't mean that we can't enjoy
each other's like practices, butit's like, oh, that's, that
there's a texture that I bringthrough that stillness, like
when I'm when I'm cultivatingthat stillness within me, I can
bring that to the relationshipand not be wobbled by your
fullness, not be wobbled by youryour joy and your radiance that
like shines throughout theentire home and our entire
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relationship. And what I wasreally getting up before is that
when we're in that when, whenyou're, say, the witness, or
when you're bringing that levelof consciousness, and I'm in,
you know, my embodied feminine,there is fucking magic in the
air. There is so much becomespossible, right? But also, I
want to speak into the fact thatthat's it's not as if I'm never
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in my masculine in ourrelationship. It's not as if I
never make decisions, or it'snot as if I'm never holding that
pole of consciousness ordirection I am and I do even
when we work, like evensometimes in the home. And I
just, I just really want to givepeople permission, because I
just see this play out so muchonline, you know, in the spaces
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I'm in, I want to give peoplepermission that it doesn't have
to be so black and white. Infact, this is a dance, and you
can be a deeply feminine womanand still inhabit your masculine
energy, in your relationship, inyour work, in other places like
it's not this such black andwhite, and I hope that brings
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this sense of like relief andplay to
yet to to this, this, yeah tothis, to this full stop to your
relationship, yeah, yeahto your practice. Okay, anything
else you want to bring? Tobring? No, I just think, like,
just to reiterate that we're notshaming anyone for where they're
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at, like, deep acceptance andlove for your journey. And
this is the final thing I'llsay, is that for men, if you
think you're only masculine, youare denying yourself a
connection to your soul, to thething that is, you know, that
creates life within you, likethe thing that really wants to
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create. And for women who denythat they have any masculine,
you're really,you think you can only be in
your feminine, you know you'rereally denying yourself the
structural integrity, the ofyour nervous system. So this is
a practice. This is a ongoingpractice, both within ourselves
and within our relationship. Andyeah, there's no there's no
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right or wrong. There's justcontinual willingness to deepen
into what is true. And thattakes time, that takes practice,
and that takes honor, andhonoring of both persons, inner
worlds and nervous system. Andthat's a little bit about what
we're going to talk about onnext week's podcast. My love,
yeah, yeah. We're going to talkabout shadow work, and how doing
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your own shadow work can reallyallow you to show up as in an
even greater capacity in yourrelationship. We good, we're
good. He just spewed on meconfirmation that the podcast is
done. Okay. We love you allbeautiful humans, big love. Bye.
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So of course, when we learnabout polarity, when we first
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read intimate communion, or welisten to some of these people
on on on Instagram, we're like,oh, this makes sense. I'm going
to use this to get what I want,when an actual fact like we know
that it's not it's a way to movethrough life. It's a form of
artistry, and it's a way toconnect deeper, not only with
our partner, but with ourselves.
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Hello, beautiful people. What upgang? What up lovers? What up
people, family, friends,community. We are back this
one's gonna be a quick onetoday, because we are still
learning how tohave quickies. Well,
we're learning how to do that,but we're learning how to fit
podcasts in around beingparents. It's a whole new thing,
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and we only have a certainamount of time today, so let's
go. Okay. Three things that youneed to know about. This, this,
this, this, okay, bye. Itdoesn't really suit our style of
podcasting, which is we justtalk and we talk about what,
like, what's been happening inlife, and then we find our way
back to the topic ofconversation. Yeah. We struggle
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with rules. I definitelystruggle with time rules. And
tell me when to do something.
Try again, yeah, but expect somemore of these succinct, smaller
episodes. Now my parents, we'regonna succinctify.
But today we wanna talk about,what
do we wanna talk about? We wannatalk about why it's necessary to
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stop weaponizing polarity, tostop weaponizing the terms
masculine and feminine,and something that
I don't know if this ever reallyshowed up in our relationship.
I'd love to hear yourperspective on that if I used to
weaponize these terms. But whatwe mean by that is what I often
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see in my work with women, iswomen diving into this work
around polarity women, divinginto, you know, the dynamics, or
the,yeah, the dynamics of masculine
and feminine, and wanting tofeel, feeling this desire in
their body to experience more ofthe masculine from their man,
from their partner,but then coming back into their
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relationship. And really likeweaponizing this concept, really
using it as a way to illuminateto their partner how they're not
being enough right now, right?
You're not in your masculine.
You need to be more masculine.
You're being too feminine rightnow, or vice versa, men coming
into women and being like youjust need to surrender to me.
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Why aren't you surrendering?
You're being too masculineand really using these terms to
just using these terms to makeeach other feel not enough.
It's as if your projection gameis just up leveled. It's like I
used to emasculate youpassively. Now I'm going to do
it with the right terminologyand make sure that I get it
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right. It's projection game uplevel. It's like before, before
I used to nag now, I like pointout that you're not good enough,
yes, and we think it's okaybecause, oh no, I'm learning
these. This is like a spiritualconcept. This is like, I'm
learning from from relationshipcoaches or from these big
teachers. I'm allowed to dothis. I'm allowed to point out
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that you're not being masculine.
I'm allowed to point out thatyou need to, you need to be more
feminine in this moment. But thetruth is, that's not how you
play this game. That's not ifyou want,
if you want to, if you want toplay in polarity, if you want to
deepen into or play with these,these dynamics of masculine and
feminine in your relationship toyou know, deepen the sexual
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tension, to ignite the polarityin the field of your
relationship. That's not the wayto do it if you also desire to
keep a strong connection of loveand intimacy and respect, right?
It's not respectful to use theseterms as weapons.
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Of course, the piece that yeah,be done. That's it succinct.
What I believe is that polarityis what governs the entire
universe. So these push and pullof two opposing forces, two
opposing energies, rather andwhen we try to use them for
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personal gain, aka, use themfrom our shoulders up, or using
them intellectually, if I saythis, then I will get what I
want. Or if I.
Point out that he's notmasculine, then he's going to be
more masculine. That way I canbe more feminine. We're putting
conditions and hinges oneverything that we're bringing
to our partner, bringing to ourrelationship. One of the key
things that I see men do isthat, well, if she's submissive,
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then I can lead, oh, which is,like, such a,
such a small minded, narrowminded, rather approach to
polarity. It's like, cool if shejust surrenders, then I can, I
can be in my masculine or she'snot being feminine enough. She
keeps trying to do everythinglike this is where you are
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utilizing polarity as a way tokeep yourself comfortable, not
to grow, not to evolve, not todeepen with your partner. And
this is the classic,what it's called the red pill
movement. I don't it's got to dowith the matrix, but
essentially, there's a lot ofmen's coaches or a lot of
prominent male figures out therespeaking into polarity from a
wounded place, oh, from a placewhere I don't want to be
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challenged by life or feminineso I'm going to create a dynamic
where I get to be in control,and I don't have to ever really
be invited deeper into my owninner world.
This is, this is, and this isbecause men have been taught
that their value is foundthrough their ability to control
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things, control money, controlpower, control women, control
resources. And this is where wedevelop an understanding that
everything outside of us issomething that we must gain
power over. And if we don't,then we don't have resources. We
don't have value, therefore weare not enough. So when men
bring this weaponization ofpolarity to the space, what
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they're really saying is, Idon't feel good enough.
I need you to be moresubmissive, surrendered so I can
feel masculine. Yes, like yousaid before, it's conditional,
right? It's hugely conditional,deeply conditional. And I would
say this is reallywe talk about this a lot, how
these dynamics of like playingwith the masculine and feminine,
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they can be done at a verysurface level, which is what
we're talking about now or at avery surface level, which is
seeing these energies as veryblack and white, like the
feminine is submissive andsurrendered, the masculine is in
control and has the directionwhere there's so much more
nuanced than that, and so muchmore Like, for example, the
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feminine. There is a leadershipto the feminine in many, many
ways. The feminine holds suchdeep qualities of leadership.
She leads in the way she sheemotes. She leads in the way she
takes up space and she inhabitsher body. She leads in the way
that she brings her heart andshe brings her desires forth and
to just simply see the femininefrom at or both the masculine
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and feminine in the surfacelevel way is really
diluting, I don't know if that'sthe right word I'm looking for,
but diluting how much you canexperience in your relationship.
It's like, what's it? What's itwhen it's like, clogging
something like the whenthere's like, something pink,
yeah, it's like, kinking, yeah,I'm imagining it's like trying
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to watch a color TV in black andwhite. Yeah, that's what it
feels like. It's like our blackand white. When there's this,
there's this full range ofcolors that are available
through the, you know, thespectrum of polarity and the
different textures that comethrough from the feminine, like
the to kind of just likeprobably anchor in some kind of
not teaching, but deeper levelof awareness, there's light and
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dark of each and the lightfeminine is very different to
the dark feminine. The lightmasculine is very different to
the dark masculine. And theseare two opposing
energies within the one pole.
And that's what's beautifulabout this, is that quite often,
a lot of men want the light,feminine, the submissive, the
soft, thethe beautifully, uh, nurturing,
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nurturing, yeah. But then thosemen will go and watch really
crazy porn, or they'll go andlike, forget, get their fix of
the dark feminine in a way thatthey don't ever have to put
themselves at risk of beingobliterated, being called deeper
into the lair. And this, this iswhy a lot of men struggle with
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polarities, because they don'tsee it through the they see it
through a black and white lens.
And they go and they readscientific papers and they
listen to men speak very, veryconfidently online in 92nd reels
about how this structure is theway it's always been in, the way
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it's always going to be, nomatter what that we're fixed in
this.
Base, that women are submissiveand that they have to do what
men say, and men are theleaders, and they have to take
responsibility and protect andprovide that note at all costs.
And there's a beautifulsimplicity in that, that men
attach to as well. There's a,oh, that's, I can do that all
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right, if that's just the way itis, then I won't have to worry
about then I can just get towork and then we can just relax.
Ah, but that's not what life isabout. Life is not about
creating comfort and creatingrigidity. Yes, it's not. Life is
about being able to movenaturally through the world.
Move naturally. And when I saynaturally, I mean move with the
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seasons and the flavors and thetextures and the pulse of life
that's here in this moment. Andif you look at nature, there's a
beautiful chaos to it. When welook at our modern world, we
have sanitized everything. We'vetried to create this
very controlled environment. Soof course, when we learn about
polarity, when we first readintimate communion, or we listen
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to some of these people on, onon Instagram, we're like, oh,
this makes sense. I'm gonna usethis to get what I want, when an
actual fact, like, we know thatit's not. It's a way to move
through life. It's a form ofartistry, and it's a way to
connect deeper, not only withour partner but with ourselves.
Something you,yeah, I want to, like, deepen
into that, because I think ifyou're using these tools, or
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let's use our example for ourrelationship. For example, once,
when I first read the bookintimate communion by David
data, this is like myintroduction into this work.
I very much attached to themasculine and feminine in this
really surface level. Wayover the past eight years, I
have deepened into and widenedmy experience and my
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understanding of both of both ofthese energies and essences. And
I would say we play with theseenergies and this dynamic in our
partnership so that we can feelmore of ourselves and more
alive, like for me,resting into our relationship
and it being a place where I canunleash and rest into and bring
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more of my feminine like, youknow, my oracular nature, the
part of me that can see things,the part of me that feels so
sensitively, the part of me thatis full spectrum in my emotions,
the part of me that yeah, isdeeply attuned and deeply
sensitive, like all of thesedifferent parts,
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I feel like more of myself,because our relationship is a
space where I get To rest intothat part of me. And I'm
assuming, from what I've seen,you've come more alive in
yourself with our relationshipbeing a place that welcomes more
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of your masculine energy, yourfeminine energy is welcome. In
fact, that's something you knowwe're playing into right now,
like even, even the way you saidabout
your birthday recently and yourreceivership and these it's not
as if we don't honor that weboth have the opposite force
within us as well, or energywithin us.
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But really, what I'm getting athere is if you're using these
concepts in your relationship,and if you're starting to play
with polarity, and you'refeeling less like yourself,
you're feeling less free, you'refeeling less alive, you're not
doing itright. If you're feeling more
controlled, especially as awoman, or you're feeling like
you're fucking it up and notgetting it right, and yeah,
you're feeling like you'regetting it wrong, like that's
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not the point of this. The pointof this is to make you feel
freer in your system, moreliberators to liberate, more
life force, more of yourself,more of your gifts. And any
other way, in my personalopinion, if you're playing with
these dynamics and you feelanything but that,
that's it's not it's not it,you've gone the wrong direction.
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Yeah, that's essentially you'replaying on the surface, or
you're using this in a way as,yeah, like we said earlier, like
weaponizing, like you're usingit as a way of, like, rules, and
it's, it's you're not beingthat's not it. You need to be
more masculine in this moment aswell. I just want to riff here.
Um,it's also a way, when I, when I
see people using these dynamics,and it's I can see how easy it
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can be. It's a way to notactually honor the truth of the
moment in a relationship. So forexample, if your man, if you're
a woman, that really desires tofeel the strength and the
unwaveringness of your man'smasculine energy in relationship
and the depth of hisconsciousness, but there's a
moment where he's wobbled,there's a moment where he's
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feeling stressed and he'sYeah, you can just feel his
stress and consumed by lifetotally. That is not a moment to
say you're not being masculineenough, not masculine. Hey, I'm
not feeling your consciousness.
You.
No, like in that moment, givethat guy a fucking break. Your
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practice as a partner isn't tosay you're doing it wrong and
make it about you, which isreally what we do in those
moments. And I've been guilty ofthis in the past. Like I need
Where did your unwaveringnessgo? It's how can I love this
man? Really fucking well rightnow,
how can I love him? I'm gonnalet, I'm gonna remind you, maybe
straight because I'm gonnaremind him that it's okay to
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feel right now I'm gonna, I'mgonna love him so he feels
comfortable and able to feelthese feelings. Like,
I really wanna sorry. I justreally wanna change that word
comfortable to Safe, safe. Yeah,it's not gonna feel comfortable
to feel your feelings if you'rea man, okay, I love that, like
when your partner provides asafe space for that wobble,
rather than point out that it'swrong. That's when the that's
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when the beauty of polarity,like unlocks a deeper level. And
vice versa, if a womanis, you know, this is classic,
when a man and you know thatdynamic you said before about
the red pill and and when mentake this really surface level
and black and white, it's likeyou're being too masculine if
you're not surrendering, oryou're being too masculine if
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you're not letting me lead. Iwrote this post years ago about
this, and I'll probably repostit this week when this episode
drops. But if a woman isn'tsurrendering, she's not always
being too masculine. Sometimesthat's the most feminine fucking
thing a woman can do, becauseshe's not feeling safe and she's
discerning. She's saying it'sactually not safe for me to
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surrender. This isn't a safecontainer for me to surrender.
I'm not actually feeling a deeplevel of presence and
consciousness from this person.
So it's not safe. Why would mybody unlock for you? Why would I
rest into this space I don'tfeel safe to
and so telling a woman thatyou're being too masculine in
that moment isn't creating moresafety. It's not creating an
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environment for her to softenand open and be more in her
body, right? It's making herfeel wrong. And women have spent
1000s of years being told thatthey're wrong and broken and
yeah,imagine going to the ocean when
it's really, really big swelland the waves are crashing, and
you go, excuse me, ocean that'snot feminine, that's not very
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soft and surrendered. Can youjust like, chill out, please. I
want to go for a swim. Can younot be so? Can you not be so,
like, chaotic, so, like, You'rebeing too much right now. Ocean,
grind, vast. Ocean. Like, don'tdo that. Like, I need to go for
a swim. My, my need for comfortis overrides. Your, your, your
expression, your,true expression. And I feel
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for those of you that are like,oh and be honest with yourself,
like, for those of you thatmight even feel like, oh my
gosh, I do this. I do this, itmay be a really subtle way or
maybe a very overt way. But ifyou're feeling like, oh my gosh,
I use these terms to point outwhen my partner's not doing it
or not in the energy that I wantthem to be in
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the whole thing, because he'sspeaking, yeah, into the
microphone.
Next time you feel that desireto say something, stop, take a
breath. And instead of saying,I'm gonna point out where
they're not being masculine orwhere they're not being
feminine, can you actuallyattune to two things? What's the
truth of the moment? Right? Isit actually necessary that they
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are in their masculine or intheir feminine in that moment?
Can't Can't the truth fucking bethat whatever is alive in them
is, what is needed in themoment. Secondly, how can I
create the environment to helpthem feel safer, to rest into
their natural essence? So forexample, if it's a man and and
his natural essence, the part ofhim where he feels most alive
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and he wants to bring more of tothe relationship, is his
masculine and you don't feel himdeeply seated in that in a
moment,instead of telling him you're
getting it wrong, you need to bemore masculine. I need you to be
more masculine. What would itlook like to contemplate how,
what? How can I create anenvironment where he feels safe
to rest back into that maybe,um, maybe it's cooking him
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dinner and nurturing him right,so that he feels like back in
his body and not so in his head.
Maybe it's just like gentlyreminding him what a powerful
motherfucker and that he's gotthis, yeah, like
really shifting this, trying toget what you want from your
partner to how can I love thembetter? How can I support them
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back into,not even back into, yeah, I'm
sure. I'm sure what I'm sayingis landing. I don't even
want a podcast. I just want tohang out with this baby. Are we
liking our little babbles in thebackground? I might.
Want to feed him. Just give me alittle feed. Yeah. Anything
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else you want to bring? I thinkthis is setting us up for our
next episode. Guys, we're goingto do a an episode around doing
the doing your own work when inrelationship, like doing like
Shadow Work, inner work, andworking on yourself whilst also
in a relationship with yourpartner. Like, what we're really
speaking to is, and I want tojust take a moment to honor
everyone that is excited bypolarity, like you've got to
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start somewhere. You have tostart somewhere. And it's easy
to see these, these models andthese, these frameworks and
these concepts as your yoursaving grace, as you know, the
light at the end of the tunnelfor a lot of people. I know when
people get a hold of the lovelanguage, is like, Oh, all
right, I'm gonna buy flowersevery Thursday night for my
partner, and then that's gonnasolve all of our problems,
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because she loves presents, andshe loves to know that I'm
thinking about her. So I'm gonnaput in my calendar flowers every
Thursday and then you do thatfor a month, and it becomes
stale. It no longer becomes thespontaneous, oh, he's thinking
of me. It's like, oh, he's doingwhat he's always done, Ah, okay,
following a form. Oh, he'sfollowing a formula to make his
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life more comfortable. So whatwe're doing is a relationship is
around ongoing depth, growth andevolution, and we're deepening
together. That means that bothof us have to be doing our own
work, not just grabbing hold ofthe love languages and then
looking at attachment styles,and be like, I'm anxious,
avoidant. So as long as youdon't make me anxious, I won't
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be avoidant.
What do you mean? What do youmean? So, like, we've got a tip
toe around each other, yetagain, we've got to create
control mechanisms to stop usfrom actually addressing the
thing that our relationshipwants us to heal.
This is why polarity is likesuch a great it's such a great
place to start because it givesyou a framework to understand
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the energies. But those energiesrequire you to come down and
live them. Live with thoseenergies through your body, not
to use them as an intellectualformula that if I lead, she
follows. If she follows, I willlead. Or you aren't doing it
right. I'm over here being in myfeminine, but you're not being
in your masculine. Get it right,so that we can feel this hot
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connection where it's like,that's not, that's not and, and,
you know, sometimes this is theportal to the depth, right? We
need to play with something inthe surface to be able to deepen
into it. But again, I just wantto reiterate, if that if you're
feeling a level of, if you'refeeling more controlled, or,
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yeah, like you're you're gettingit wrong, or there's this energy
of, like, yeah, feeling not goodenough, as you begin to play
with these energies, it's, it'snot it, it's not it so, like,
the the the place where you wantto move towards is feeling free
or more liberated, right? Andmore, I would say, more you,
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yeah, the US, you that you couldbe the the funny thing here is,
like, imagine you're a woman,and you've tapped into the
polarity world, and your mangoes off to work for the day,
and you stay home, and you selfpleasure, and you put on a red
robe, and you buy flowers foryourself, and you put on your
sensual, feminine embodimentplaylist, and you do all of
that. And then your man arriveshome at five, and he doesn't
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instantly take you, doesn'tinstantly come home and just
grab you and just ravish you.
And you're like, Well, I didwhat I was meant to do. Why
aren't you doing what you'remeant to do? And what you're
meant todo? I'm in my feminine. Why
aren't you in your mouth? Whyhave you not come through the
door instantly being drawn intoyour leadership? Because I've
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been in my feminine all day.
One thing that I've learned isthat it's very there's a
difference between cultivatingyour feminine energy and
cultivating your masculineenergy and then bringing that
that texture, or that texture ofenergy to your relationship. So
for men, when we go out to workand we're going getting after
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it, my hyper focused on bringinghome the bacon, making money to
providewe're not in the relationship.
We're outside of therelationship, doing what we need
to do, to give to therelationship. But when we're in
the relationship, we're actuallyin the dance. Same for a woman,
if you're, if you're if you goto work, or you go and do
whatever you do in your feminineembodiment,
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when you come back in, when youcome back into connection with
your partner, there's adifference between Bri between
bringing the texture of youryour your feminine energy, and
sitting there expecting yourpartner to bring the masculine
because you've been in yourfeminine all day. And same thing
if you come home after work andyou think you've been in your
masculine all day, and yourwoman doesn't instantly greet
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you with a with nourishment andsubmission. And what can I do
for you? You're my lord, Saviorand master,
then you've missed the point.
You missed the point of bringingyour energy to the relationship.
And with this, this is not a whogoes first game. It's let's
develop awareness, and once, whobecomes aware first.
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This is the one that's invitedto bring through the texture. So
sometimes it's going to be thewoman, sometimes it's going to
be the man, yeah, and this isreally, I feel like we close up
in a moment. Butthis is really, again, I just
want to reiterate the piecearound this isn't about like,
what can you get from yourpartner? I'm going to use this
so I get what I want from mypartner.
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This is more about what can weexperience in our union, like
what becomes possible like forus. For example,
I feel most at home when I amdeeply in my body, deeply
emotive, deeply like, you know,embodied and alive, and filling
the space with my energy, likeI'm, that's, that's, that's the
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feminine. She's alive, she'smovement, she's, you know, and I
would say, your gifts in ourrelationship, and you would feel
most you. Am I right in sayingwhen you are bringing the
rootedness when you are bringingthe consciousness, yeah, when
I'm like, for me, when I'm ableto focus, I focus on
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the space like for me, like evenlike the way that I
like for me, a board my favoriteboard game is a puzzle. Like, I
like the like, the thewitnessing and the consciousness
that it requires to, like, bepresent with that. Whereas for
you, like, you want somethingthat's like, interactive and
like, well, let's make noise.
Let's like, whereas for me, Iwould like to just sit in
silence and do a puzzle. I thinkthat's and
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I think that that's like, thatdoesn't mean that we can't enjoy
each other's like practices, butit's like, oh, that's, that
there's a texture that I bringthrough that stillness, like
when I'm when I'm cultivatingthat stillness within me, I can
bring that to the relationshipand not be wobbled by your
fullness, not be wobbled by youryour joy and your radiance that
like shines throughout theentire home and our entire
(26:56):
relationship. And what I wasreally getting up before is that
when we're in that when, whenyou're, say, the witness, or
when you're bringing that levelof consciousness, and I'm in,
you know, my embodied feminine,there is fucking magic in the
air. There is so much becomespossible, right? But also, I
want to speak into the fact thatthat's it's not as if I'm never
(27:20):
in my masculine in ourrelationship. It's not as if I
never make decisions, or it'snot as if I'm never holding that
pole of consciousness ordirection I am and I do even
when we work, like evensometimes in the home. And I
just, I just really want to givepeople permission, because I
just see this play out so muchonline, you know, in the spaces
(27:41):
I'm in, I want to give peoplepermission that it doesn't have
to be so black and white. Infact, this is a dance, and you
can be a deeply feminine womanand still inhabit your masculine
energy, in your relationship, inyour work, in other places like
it's not this such black andwhite, and I hope that brings
(28:03):
this sense of like relief andplay to
yet to to this, this, yeah tothis, to this full stop to your
relationship, yeah, yeahto your practice. Okay, anything
else you want to bring? Tobring? No, I just think, like,
just to reiterate that we're notshaming anyone for where they're
(28:26):
at, like, deep acceptance andlove for your journey. And
this is the final thing I'llsay, is that for men, if you
think you're only masculine, youare denying yourself a
connection to your soul, to thething that is, you know, that
creates life within you, likethe thing that really wants to
(28:47):
create. And for women who denythat they have any masculine,
you're really,you think you can only be in
your feminine, you know you'rereally denying yourself the
structural integrity, the ofyour nervous system. So this is
a practice. This is a ongoingpractice, both within ourselves
and within our relationship. Andyeah, there's no there's no
(29:11):
right or wrong. There's justcontinual willingness to deepen
into what is true. And thattakes time, that takes practice,
and that takes honor, andhonoring of both persons, inner
worlds and nervous system. Andthat's a little bit about what
we're going to talk about onnext week's podcast. My love,
yeah, yeah. We're going to talkabout shadow work, and how doing
(29:31):
your own shadow work can reallyallow you to show up as in an
even greater capacity in yourrelationship. We good, we're
good. He just spewed on meconfirmation that the podcast is
done. Okay. We love you allbeautiful humans, big love. Bye.
(29:53):
Yo, yo. Thank you so much fortuning in to another episode of
sex, love and everything inbetween. Now, if you'd like to
see.
Connected with Meg and I you canhead on over to Instagram and
follow me at the Jacob O'Neill.
And where can people find youlove her, at B dot. Meg, dot. O
amazing. And yeah, guys, checkout the show notes for all other
(30:13):
information in regards to whatwe got coming up. And yeah,
we're super, super grateful thatyou guys for taking the time to
listen in to this podcast. Ifyou do have any topics or any
questions like I said, hit us upon Instagram and we'll see what
we can do apart from that, havea beautiful, beautiful rest of
your day. Thanks for being here.
Big, big. Love you.
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