Ep 109: From Maiden to Mother in Business: The Evolution No One Talks About w/ Meghan Lee

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I was delightfully surprisedwhen, you know, a few months
into motherhood,when I started to kind of
come back into my work,how white it felt, and how life
giving it felt and how muchmy mothering is actually feeding

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me as a business ownerand as a creator
and as a facilitator,and also how my work
and my serviceand my mission feeds
my mothering and now I'm in thatin living that I'm like,
of course it was going to bethat fucking way.
Of courseit was going to be that way.

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Of course.
How did I not see that before?
Yo yo yo lovers.
Welcome, welcome,welcome to sex, love
and everything in between.
Where the O'Neals.
You're here with Megan Jacob.
And this is the placewe have really uncensored
conversationsabout sex, intimacy

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and relationships.
Well, super excited you're here.
Enjoy this episode.
It.
Hi, my loves.
You are about to listento an epic freaking episode.

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It's myself and my glorious OBMMegan Lee from Presence Media.
It's actually, interviewing meabout business,
about motherhood,about the made into mother
journey of,you know, my own life,
but also within my business.
She interviewed mefor her own podcast,

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which is going to bedropping in the next month,
but we didn't havean episode this week,
so she actually suggestedwe put it on.
We put it on our podcast.
So I'm really freaking excited.
It is an insane episode.
If you're a woman in business,this is going to serve you
so beautifully.
If you're a woman in business,especially maybe not having yet
stepped into the precipiceor through the

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precipice of motherhood,but you know
that's on your horizon.
Or even if you are a mother,even if you aren't in business,
this is just a conversationreally deeply
diving into my own experiencein motherhood,
how I'm bringing that togetherwith my business,
how it's feeding my business.
Yeah, it's a really, really,really juicy conversation.

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That's all I'mgoing to say about it. Enjoy.
All right.
How are you feeling?
Do you want to do some,a little bit of buzzing breath
just to get.
Yeah, I encourage you. Yes.
Let's do it.
Okay.
Breathe in.

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A couple more, Directlyto any area you want.
You know, I'm.

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Think, like a little bitof vocal toning.
So good.
All right, we will get started.
So, everybody, I am joined todayby the amazing Meg O'Neill.
This is a reallyexciting podcast
because first of all, it'sone of the first podcasts
on my podcast,turned on and tuned up.

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And it also may be goingon next podcast
because we are doing one thingthat mothers do really
well is beingefficient with our time.
And so if youdon't know me, get.
She is a sex and relationshipcoach.
She is the founder and creatorof Full Spectrum Woman
and just an overallbadass businesswoman, new mama

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and somebodythat I very much admire
and has been a huge partof my personal awakening journey
when it comes to my,Eros, my pleasure.
And, Meg, I think you know this.
I think I've I've sharedthis with you before,
but before we startedworking together.
Because makes actuallya client of ours
at presents media.
I was following youand you were a

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huge inspiration to me.
Really understandingwhat it looks like
and the language of being afully expressed woman.
And now that I'm indoctrinatedin your work and your content
because we workso closely together, you know,
it's been transformativein every area of my life,
from my 20 yearmarriage to my business

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to how I parent.
And sohaving you on this podcast,
being one of our first guests,feels really special,
because you have beenso instrumental
in my own journey,and I feel like there's
no one betterto have the conversation
of business and motherhoodand what it truly
looks like behind the scenes.
As a full spectrumwoman who is all in

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on all areas of life,from business
to motherhood to pleasure toto all of it, and it's a lot.
It's a lot of hats to wear.
It's a lot of to do's.
And, you know, I think as a fullspectrum woman,
our standards are really high.
Like, we're not half assinglife at all.
We're going all inand all the ways.
And I knowfrom my own experience

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that I can definitely feellike a lot
sometime parenting two boys,running companies, teams
like, there's so much going onand I would love to know
how you are feeling now.
Transitioningas into being a mom in business.
Oh, she is six monthsI think now. So just about us.
Yeah, just getting started.

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But how have youfound the transition?
And you know, what does it meanto you to be a full spectrum
woman in business and mom,I love to thank.
First of all, thank you for thatbeautiful introduction.
And it's so beautiful to hearhow, yeah, my work is like
seeped into your life.

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And yeah,I'm just also so grateful
for our connectionand all that you and your work
have done for my workand amplifying my work
and supporting me to,you know, being my genius
in my own work.
Yeah.
So I'm almost six monthsinto my mothering journey,
or she'll be six monthsin a week or ten days

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or something like that.
Which is fucking wild.
So cliche.
You you feel likeit goes so quick with genuinely.
It goes so fucking quick.
My God.
Yeah, I've actually had suchan easy, full transition.
And I want to prefacethat by saying I was really

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unsure and curious as to howI would feel about my business
once I became a mother and I,I actually had this feeling,
what is thisnervousness that my business
was going to feellike a huge burden and that
I was going to be sodeep in my motherhood

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because that's important to me.
Like the way I'm mother, I'msuper pregnant with my son,
you know, in my husband.
And, you know, we're reallyyou know, I co-sleep,
I breastfeed, I didall of those kind of things.
So it's, you know,that was number one
fucking prioritygoing into motherhood.
It's how I'm going to raisemy son.
And be deeplyattached to my son and be it
the needs, you know,meet the needs of my son.

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But there was thisnervousness of like,
oh, because I'm going to bechoosing that
and that level of presence,it means anything else
is going to feel like a burden,like my business
is going to feel really heavy.
It's going to feel like,oh, I have to do that.
I have to make money.
I have to like, like I wasI really thought it was going to
feel like that.
And I was delightfully surprisedwhen, you know, a few months

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into motherhood,when I started to kind of
come back into my work,how light it felt and how
life giving it feltand how much my mothering
is actually feedingme as a business owner
and as a creatorand as a facilitator,
and also how my workand my service and my

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mission feeds my motheringand now I'm in that in
living that I'm like, of courseit was going to be
that fucking way.
Of courseit was going to be that way.
Of course.
How did I not see that before?
But you know,when you're still in,
when you're onthat precipice of the about
to step into motherhood,you truly do not know what it's
going to be like at all.

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Right?
Even if you can seeother people living it out,
you do not knowwhat your experience
is going to be of that. So,yeah, I was just surprised
and delighted thatthat was my experience.
And yeah, it'sbeen so fucking beautiful
to also feel, you know,I was very intentional
around the way that I didthat we stepped into conception

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the way I chose pregnancy,like I had a pregnancy
and a birthoutside of the system
completely.
And that required me todeeply trust my body right?
Deeply trust my body.
There was no oneto outsource to.
I couldn't, you know,I wasn't outsourcing

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to anyone to say,is my baby okay?
Should I do this?
It was just it was just me.
Me and my body and my babyand life.
Trusting life and it's actuallyreally interesting.
I it was only on the weekend.
I held the three day immersioncall claimed in person,
and it was only on the weekendwhere I really fucking felt
how much that shiftshifted my business,

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and how much that initiationhas initiated me
into such a depth of trustin the way that I hold space,
the way that Irun my business, the
way that I hold women.
And that was so illuminatedto me in this room
over three days.
Because in the past,whether it would have been

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an in-person experienceor just in my business
in general,I used to micromanage
the fuck out of womenin my work.
Like, are you okay?
Having a good time?
I hope she's havinga good experience.
I want to make sure, like,everything is okay for her.
And I want to make sure like,you know, I want to yeah, I want
I want to micromanageeverything about this.
And I used to really gripand yeah, just grip

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through through my businesstrying to control everything,
trying to make sureeverything is okay, trying to,
control a launchto the nth degree.
Like all of that. And,even little things used
to wobble me so deeply.
Like, if it was ain-person thing,
it would be like,oh my gosh, if,
something wasn't perfector I forgot something, or I said

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something in the roomthat just like felt
a little like, oh, that wasn't.
Yeah, like I wasn't able to slowand trust as much.
And coming out of thatthree day immersion, I'm like,
oh my God.
My ability to trust is so deeplylike how much I was initiated
to that throughpregnancy, birth.

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Oh my God has deeplyis deeply serving my mission.
And just to deepen therea little like we had,
a friend of minewas meant to come
look after her.
She on the Saturdayof the immersion
that just happenedbecause Jacob was going to
be a part of thatday with the women.
And the night before,she, she messaged me to say

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I can't anymore.
I'm sorry, but I can't.
Maybe even, like,six months ago,
I would have been like,Holy fuck.
Oh my gosh.
Like, oh my gosh, what'swhat's going to happen?
And this is really important.
And oh my gosh,now it's just like sweet.
It's like, you know this isI trust this is going
to unfold perfectly.
And and it did.
Jacob's sistercame and looked after us.

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She and she neverlooked after him before.
We've never actuallyhad someone outside of us,
you know, be with himfor the amount of time
he was, you know,he came and fed
and all the things. But,and I just so deeply trusted.
I was like, he go like I trustedher to have my son.
I trusted the women in the room.
Like, yeah, it was just sucha beautiful experience
to feel that depth of trustand how much it liberated me

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so that I could serveso deeply in that space.
And yeah, I'm just saying allof that to to really bring home
this piece of, like, how muchthis is the biggest piece
for me so farthat's influenced my work is
pregnancy, birth.
That initiation has taught meso deeply to let go

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and how that's influencing meas a facilitator, a space
holder businesswoman is just like the amount
I can rest into myself,and my work is just oh,
so fucking delicious.
Yeah, and I know your work,you know, started way
before motherhoodand you've been on this journey
of personal development,and I know plant medicine,

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and you have a wholelead up into,
you know, this moment of timewhere you you have
handled this transitionso gracefully.
And I can see thisbecause I talk to you
nearly every dayand I see behind the scenes,
and I know whatyou're like through
launches and events,and you do hold
the most pristineenergy of trust and surrender.

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And it is like,that's not standard,
especially, you know,when when we're getting started.
And it certainly wasn'tmy initiation
into business and motherhood.
I mean, I had my my oldestson is 12, and I started
my first businessthe same year he was born.
And so and,and my spiritual awakening
really started aroundthat time too.

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So it's like I was enteringall three
from such a beginner phase.
And, you know,definitely the journey
of of an entrepreneurand motherhood and awakening
and in partnershipalso because, you know,
navigating this type of growthand expansion in a relationship
is a whole other dynamic.
And so all of those mix togetherlike that is an initiation of,

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of a lifetime.
And I say, now I'm,I'm in a comfortable place of,
a different orientation,I would say, where, you know,
you speak really well of after,you know, being in business
and nowstepping into motherhood,
you're just really relaxedand calm and there's stuff

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that's going onin your business,
but it's not triggering youbecause you've been able
to cultivate sucha, such a sense of, of safety
and surrender in yourwork and in your life. And,
yeah.
And I, I'd love to hear about,you know,
because in the online spacethat that's not necessarily,
standard and there's peopleat all seasons

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and cycles of their businessthat are trying
to navigate this,and you know it.
We'll see,examples of people online.
And I'd like to, to see thisas almost like the maiden season
and, and that transitioninto the motherhood season
where, you know,you have to be super diligent
with your time and your focus.
And, you know,sometimes I sit back

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and I'm like, wouldn't itbe nice to just have, like,
bubble baths all day andspend all the time in the world
creating these things, but,you know, really stepping
into being more efficient and,almost like for me,
it feels likeI've had to really integrate
work and business together,like trying to really be one
and then the other, like,because that that shifting gears

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was just too much.
And I've really had tostep into this vision and this,
this season of my life wheremy family, my business,
you know,how we live our lifestyle
like it's all it's all related.
And I feel like you and Jacobdo a really beautiful job
of that with your two businessesand really.
But yeah.
Can you speak to the maidento mother transition

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in business and,and your own experience,
but also kind of what you seein the online space and,
and maybe a message to womenthat are either, you know,
making that transitionor about to make
that transition in termsof what they can expect.
I love that.
I'm also realizingI didn't answer your question
before about what it meansto be a full spectrum

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woman in business.
So let's circle back to that.
At some point, I'm almost sayingtwo pieces here because I think,
yeah, there's like the literaltransition
when a woman births a baby.
So she's, you know, art and bodygoing from made into mother.
And if she's a business owner,obviously that's going to affect

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the wayshe's showing up in business
and the way she'srunning her business.
But then I also thinkthere's like a maiden
to mother, like evolutionand initiation in like,
all of our business.
Does that make sense?
Yes, absolutely.
Outside of, you know,whether we're birthing
children and things.
But this likematuration of our business.

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And I also think whythere is such ease, not only in
just my own body,around my trust,
that has a huge part of it,but also I've been in business
for like a decade now, indifferent way, shape or form.
I'm including like when I was,you know, a yoga
teacher and a networkmarketer and like,
all these things,that I've had that almost

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like maiden stageof being in business
where it's just like, I'mgoing to try this and I'm
going to try thisand I'm going to try this,
and what's it like to do this?
And what's it like to try outmy voice over like this?
And there's such likeplay and experimentation and,
and 90 I think as well.
And I don't know if you'd agree,but if I knew ten years ago

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what it would taketo really build a business
and the grit it would takeand the challenges
that it would take, and,you know, the the holding
that it would take and,just all of that, I don't
I don't know if Meg ten yearsago would have chosen that.
Right.
Yeah, that's a good one.
I love that conversation.
Yeah.
It's it's like you only knowby going on the journey

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and finding outwho you actually have
to become to run a businessthat is profitable
and successful.
It's not what you seeon Instagram completely.
Right.
And so I think there is,but I think that naivete
is like so beautifuland a necessary part of it.
And again be,oh my God, I would not choose
any other way of being.
I'm never not runninga business.

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I'm never not beingan entrepreneur like I never,
the challenges areso fucking worth it.
But I think, yeah, there's this.
And in my own experience,that was probably,
I'm even going to saythe first six years, it's
probably only beenit's probably only been
since I really startedworking with you,
like almost two years ago,where I have felt in my business

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this maturation from maidento mother, in the way
that I'm holding my businessand the way that
I'm holding myselfand the way that my business
wants to be.
And one of the thingsthat it is really
significant that Ifelt that shift in is,
in my maiden years,especially maybe, say,

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just before we startedto work together,
my business reallypopped around 2020.
So from like 2020to maybe 2022 or 2023, you know,
I went from having a $40,000a year to like a 250 k year.
And I was just like,what the fuck?
Like what the actual fuck?

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And I got quite caught up in theoh my gosh,
okay, now I've got a tenK might have had a 2030
came out the other 42 month.
Oh my gosh.
And this likeoh my gosh more more and more
I need to keep creating more.
That's the only thingthat matters.
And it got really likehow can I.
It was just all onlike the boom boom, boom boom
boom up up up up up.

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How can I create more?
More is beautiful.
But I was very attachedand grippy to that more.
It was the adrenalinefueled business model. Right?
And it was so interconnected tomy sense of self.
So whenever I had a monthwhere there was a dip,
oh my God,my entire sense of being felt

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like it had taken a dipand I was
like, punched in the gut.
And that was my experiencefor a few years.
And I see that still is likethe maiden years of my business,
because I was just like,so gripping to how can I make
the most amount of moneythis month?
What do I have to do?
Oh my gosh, my gosh, my gosh,my gosh.
And just like great greatgreat great great.

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And I was not focusedon sustainability.
I was not focusedon building like a
like honing my brand's voiceand the customer experience
and all of thesedifferent things.
It was yes, I was still agreat facilitator,
a great coach.
I held a really beautiful space.
I was holdingbeautiful containers.
But in terms oflike the foundation

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that I was holdingin my business
as a business ownerand in my in my work, it was
it wasn't rooted.
I hadn't descended. Right.
And so, yeah, I really feel likemy own business and my, my self
as a businesswoman tookthat made to mother shift
when you stepped into my workand I really stopped.

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I really likethere was a big death
in my own business around.
I had, I had some Iused to hold a business
mastermind and one launch,it was like 100 Cait launch.
Ten women signed up.
It sold out.
The next time I launched it,two women signed up.
And like,that fucking rocked me.
It rocked me financially.

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I was not preparedfor that, right?
Emotionally,I was not prepared for that.
What what I madethat mean about myself,
that was that was my birth.
Right into the mother, mother,season of my business
because I needed to go,wow, like, where am I gripping?
Where am I making that meansomething about my service,
my mission, my,you know, my brand?

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That was really when I,you know, stopped holding
business mastermindsbecause I realized, oh,
that's actually notwhat I'm here to do.
There's somebody elsethat wants to come through.
And the invitation inthat was really,
how can I let goof trying to make
as much money as I canright now, this exact,
this exact month, and actuallycreate a sustainable

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business model.
And this is whereI really started to focus on
can I build the full SpectrumWoman brand?
Maybe that's not memaking huge months
to begin with,but let's build her.
Let's build her voice.
Let's deepen into this brand.
Let's, let's, let's lookat the long fucking game.
Let's look at the long game.
The mother looks at the longgame.
In business,the maiden does not.

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The maiden is like monthto month.
And so yeah, that was likea huge shift for me.
And such a beautiful shift.
And that's taking time.
It's like the motherhas patience in her business.
That mother archetype,that mother energy.
She has patience, right?
She doesn't make itmean something about herself
when you knowshe has a little dip in income,

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it's just like, perfect.
Let's keep going.
Let's keep going.
Yeah.
And then if Ithen bring it back to,
you know, the made itand made into mother journey
of like in of likethe literal made
into mother journey.
Yeah.
I feel like my reflections forany woman that's maybe on

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the precipice is just like,stay open to what is
like I can. I've.
I know many women that havestepped into motherhood and felt
like their businessis then a burden or that,
you know, they, you know,were wanting
to take some space from it.
I'm not saying my journey isthe only way or the right way.

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No way.
It was so beautifulthat I got to step into that.
And I feel really lit up.
And I also stay open.
But also,can we fucking question
the narratives that tell uswe can't be all of those
things at once?
Can we question the narrativethat tells us, motherhood
is going to take from us,our business
is going to take from us.

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That's been the thingthat's most fed me
and supported mein these early stages
of motherhoodand business, saying, it's like
I'm carrying the storythat my mother,
my motherhood, feeds meand my business feeds
me and my service feeds me.
And then just one morepiece here is like,
I've gotten so fucking goodat receiving support,
so good at asking for help,receiving support.

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That was like somethingI've spent years honing
and something that has beenthe deepest,
the deepest, deepestsupport for me in this season.
You know, in my postearly postpartum days
and also nowis my ability to go, I need help
even todayto be on this podcast.
Jacob was working.

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I was this part of methat was like,
oh, do I have to cancel?
And I've I've calledour birth keeper
who loves my son, and I'm like,hey, can you come over
and look after himfor an hour? Right.
That would feelreally supportive.
So I can come inon and do this. Yeah. And
yeah, I think really being ableto be a woman
that calls on that support,we can't like

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we can't run businessesand mother and run a household
and do all these thingsby ourselves.
That's fucking impossible.
Well, no, it's not impossible.
But I don't thinka woman can thrive in that.
I don't think a womancan feel fed in that.
So you want to feel fedin your mothering,
in your business,feel like thriving in that?
There has to be alevel of support.
And I feel that from,you know, my husband,

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from our community, you know,I asked for that as well.
So I think that's a big piece toand that just really brings up
like the whole deathand rebirth process,
which is the processof the feminine. Right.
And so it's like the amountof initiations and stages
that a business goes onto get into
a more mature phase. And.
Right, we're still onlygetting started.

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And so there's going to bea lot more of these cycles
to, to continue,because that is the
nature of the feminine.
But I think thatthese, you know, when we stop,
well,when we get through the phase
and I think that worthtied to business,
everybody facesthat at some point
because inherentlywe have been taught

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at some stage in our lifethat, you know, we're not worthy
and we need to prove and blah,blah, blah, whatever.
You know,this stored information
is in our cells.
We do have to cometo the realization
that no, like I'm worthyjust because I am.
This business is separatefrom me,
and my job as a businessowner is to make this business
entity thrive and so what typeof business skills do

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I need to understandthe difference between revenue
and profitability?
That was a big one for me.
I could make revenue,but was I running
a profitable business? Yeah.
So like what'sthe difference between
manifestingand like having these visions
and then actually fuckingdelivering on them properly,
like you said,the customer journey

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and just understandingwhat it actually takes moment
to moment to be the personthat's executing
on a particular visionor strategy.
And this has to comewith experience and time.
And so, you know, that to mefeels like the mothering stage
of business.
And I think motherhooddoes teach you
how to get really succinct andand smart about these things,

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because you nowhave another mouth to feed.
You know, life isis maybe not so, so cushy.
And and ultimately, for me,it was all about
if I am going to be focusingon, you know, my
business and pouring mylife force into this,
this passion, this creative,you know, birthing process,

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that that is my businessand that, you know, inevitably
is going to take timeaway from my children
because I can't duplicate myselfand be in the same place
at once.
I can definitely try to,you know, tend to myself
and my nervous systemso I can be present
and, and and available.
You know, to everything.
But ultimately,if I'm going to be running

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this business,it better support me
in the way that I desire.
And my family, you know,when I put the family
there, like as the number onestakeholder are my children.
And how can thisoperation set up
so that we all thrive?
Like that was a reorientationthat I really needed.
And, and I always talk about,like orienting
your business aroundwhat truly matters

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because it is so easy to getcaught up in the metrics
and the growth.
And, you know, as creativesand I know you are
a super creative, woman as well.
And so I'd love to talka little bit
about the creative process.
But for me, like my create,my creation,
I can become obsessedwith an idea and I think that's
what makes mea good entrepreneur,
because I, like, see somethingand I will devote myself to it

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until it happens.
But I'm no longer willingto do that
unless, you know, it's it'sthe family is thriving.
And that that,you know, my day to day
life is thriving, even,you know, my relationships.
There is a long period of timewhere, I would
prioritize my business overclose relationships in my life

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because Iand I feel like it was because
of some level of controlthat I had over
my business, like, you know, oh,this isn't going well.
I can just focuseverything on this.
And and that'salso been something
that I've had to reconcilein, in coming into
to just alignmentand awareness of,
of what truly matters.
So, yeah,I love what you're saying.

(29:39):
I resonate so muchand yeah, I'd love to hear,
you know, how you navigatethe creativity because I know
I work with you.
You're such a creative vesseland you understand
the process of, like,being a doula to these visions
that are meant to comethrough us.
And I feel likefull spectrum woman for you.
Like, that's not a business.

(30:00):
This isthis is a sole assignment,
like your exact lifepath, your personal
hero's journey.
And you just posteda brilliant post
on Instagram today.
Kind of your before and after.
You know, your personal hero'sjourney has positioned you
to receive the fullnessof full spectrum woman,
which to meis the awakening of women
and helping womenreturn into their bodies

(30:21):
and their pleasureand their eros,
and set a new exampleof what it means to be a woman.
Like,that's a huge freakin mission,
and that's pouringthrough your channel
into your business.
And so I'd love to hearwhat your process is
with creative energyand how you stay grounded
and present to,you know, Jacob and Ashley
and what matterswhile being a conduit

(30:43):
to this, this amazing missionthat you've been granted with.
Thank you.
First of all,that's so beautiful.
And it's so beautiful to hearyou say I'm
a very creative womanbecause I grew up not feeling
that I was creative at all.
I was very smart.
I was like, such a high achieverand knew how to study
and get good marks.
But I never feltconnected to my creativity.

(31:05):
So this has been like a decadejourney.
Learning how to be in businessand unravel my patterns of
control and unravelmy patterns of thinking
that I have to tryreally fucking hard
and like, force a creation out,versus resting into a creation
and being the vesselfor that creation.

(31:28):
That doesn't meanI don't put effort in.
And I don't,you know, spend hours
at the computer doing things.
And, you know,I'm not particular about,
you know,the way things look and
you know, that haveI have a clear vision and, like,
like bringing that to life.
But, I think that's beenthe biggest piece
that has allowed my allmy authentic creations

(31:52):
to come throughhas been letting go.
The more I let go,the more I unplug from
my patterns of controland thinking that it's my job
to micromanage everything right?
The more powerfully and potentlymy mission is able to amplify

(32:14):
through me and in the world and.
Yeah, this is even like nowwith, you know,
your your team and like,you know,
there's quite a few women thatthat work in my work
and work in my world, like,you know, on the team and
I used to feeland I'm also very particular

(32:34):
about that needs to bebecause I am very good
at what I do, and I can doall the back end
kind of stuff, too.
There needs to bea certain level of team
that I'm able to go,you've got this,
and I've deeply found thatin your team.
But yeah, learning to be like,I've like,
a trust the team to do that.
I can relax into that.
I can, you know,my job is the creativity.

(32:56):
I can bring thosepieces through.
That's been so importantand such a practice
for me as well.
I also think I'm able toso deeply trust, you know,
what life is tryingto create through me.
Because I know the feelingof trying to create something
that's not authentic to me.

(33:18):
And I again, I think that'sthe maiden stage of business.
We hear someone else's voice.
We might replicate a littleof what a coach is doing
that we enjoy.
We and I've had seasons of that,like working
with particular womenand being like, oh, that,
okay, I'mgoing to take a bit of that
and like not even realizing, butmy voice was I think that's
how we find our voice.
But my voicewas very much merged
with that voice.

(33:38):
And, you know, Iand then this was, you know,
that experienceI had before where I ran
the business mastermind,it went epically.
And then it didn't.
And oneof the learnings of that,
one of the heartbreakinglearnings of that
in the time, at the time,it was financially really hot.
It was, you know, to my ego,it was hard at ten women
signed up last timeand now there's

(33:59):
only two women. What the fuck?
Oh my gosh, I'm a failure.
Like, what do people can think?
What are these two womengoing to thank? The.
But a huge gift inthat was to go, is this actually
what I'm meantto be fucking doing?
Is this business mastermindwhat life actually wants
to create through me?
When I sat with it, no,there was something else
like my mission and my voicetotally changed through

(34:19):
that experience, right?
I stopped again,I hold women in business,
my one on one clients,a lot of women and full spectrum
women are in business.
But I stopped tryingto be a business coach
because I'm not hereto be a business coach.
I'm here to be.
I'm here to support womento to send the fuck
into their bodies. Right.
That supports them in business,that supports them in mothering,

(34:40):
that supports themin all realms of life.
But that experience of thingsnot working
right and feeling that inmy body was such deep clarity
and gave me such deep clarityand was so
illuminating to be like, okay,what is life
wanting to birth through me?
What is the authentic creationthat's

(35:01):
wanting to come through me?
And yeah, I think that'sthat is now how
I trust my creativity,because I know
what it feels like when I don't.
I know, I know the results.
You know, financially,I know the results in my body
when I try and forcesomething that is not true,
it's not worth it to me.
It's not worth it to me.

(35:22):
Yeah.
And I want to get to,descending in our bodies
and why that's importantas business owners
and how your workreally supports that.
But I also want to just say,you know, your experience
with this mastermind,selling it out
and then having toand this happens
all the time, like I've had.
Every businessowner is like, yep,
I've had that experience whereI thought

(35:42):
it was going to be successful.
And then the launchhas failed and, you know,
I think that when youtake the journey of descent
and you understand,you know, your role,
your zone of geniusand what you're
actually here to deliver.
But most importantly,you learn how to,
like, strip awayall of the sensation
that is making the thoughtsthat are telling you.

(36:04):
You know thatwhatever the negative thought
is about your worth oryour offer, and
really just listening to,what is this woman
teaching me and asking me?
Like you so beautifully said.
And I feel like it's alwaysbigger than you are playing.
It's always a bigger level.
It's always more.

(36:24):
More your voice, like moreall in on your genius.
Sometimes it's rest.
Sometimes it is like,you know, taking a step back
and really nourishing yourselfso you can get into a place
to be ableto open up and receive.
But I think that if we could seethose roadblocks as redirects
and reallylook at the information

(36:45):
available within usand around us
and respond to that, you know,and I think responding
is often like,what are my gifts?
What is the market need?
I think sometimes the,you know, the junction there,
but yeah, I think that's areally important to say.
And I do think a woman who takesthe journey of descent

(37:06):
into her bodyand is, is able to rest
in that void spacein the unknown and fully receive
the information, is going totake the quickest path.
You know, because it will bethe most direct path instead of
when we ignorethose subtle signs
and we keep kindof hammering it out.
And believe me,I've done this like more times

(37:27):
than I would like to admit.
It's like there'sroadblocks, roadblocks,
but we're going to push through.
So, yeah.
Can you speak to the powerof being descended in our bodies
as women and making decisionsin our business from that place?
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Big love.
Yeah, I love that.
And I just want to touch onlike a few pieces
that you just shared and,and I don't feel
just from what I said before,I'm not saying that every time

(42:23):
because failureis a part of business.
Right? Right.
Because this is problemsolving, right?
I love that,and that it's not saying
every time, you know,a launch doesn't go to plan,
it means you needto fully redirect and delivery.
Randall, let go of whatyou were launching.
Actually,a deep practice of business
is staying the fucking pathand having patience

(42:44):
and rooting deeperdown into your offering,
even when no one showed up.
Like sometimes that's solving ittotally solving
it to the market. Right? So,sometimes that's
the truth of the moment.
And I love this questionin all realms of life, like,
what's the truth of the moment?
What am I and what am I beinginvited into?
And you knowthe truth of the moment,

(43:04):
my invitation in thatin that time of the business
mastermind failing,was I need a fucking shift.
What's true?
Like my voiceneeds to be different.
This offering is no longerwho I am.
Like all of those things.
Maybe the truth of the momentfor someone
after a failed launch is,I wasn't fucking bringing the

(43:26):
full force of myselfinto that launch.
I was hesitating,I was, I didn't
I was so scared of, like,being too much.
I didn't send as many emails,or I didn't fully
show up on Instagrambecause I was scared of,
like, people going to thinkI'm, like, coming in to hide.
Are people going to thinkit's too much of the like,
maybe that'sthe truth of the moment.
It's like, just fuckingbring it next time.

(43:47):
Like, hold this creationas if it's the most sacred,
exciting, magical thingthat ever anyone's ever
going to step into.
So that could be thetrigger that the moment.
Not that there's anything wrongwith the offering,
or anything to be evolved.
Often there is each time, likethere are fine
minute everything.
And then just one more piecearound value here.

(44:07):
When I was in that timeof, like, feeling failure
and I was, like,such a high achiever
in high school and university,like, straight-A student,
high distinction student.
I didn't really tastea lot of failure.
My thing was like,avoid failure at all costs.
So when I started to tastefailure in my business,
it fucking hurt.
It was heartbreaking.
And I rememberhaving a conversation

(44:28):
with a dear friend of mine,and his name's Pete,
and he's in business twoand he said,
you know, roller coasterride of business as well. And,
he had aman in his life, an older man.
His ex partner's father,and he was a big businessman.
And he said the best advicethat this man
Barry gave him was,he said it wasn't even advice,

(44:51):
but he said I wouldn't.
I will never go into businesswith someone
that hasn't gone bankrupt.
And this guy was like a hugefucking businessman.
And, you know, I'm not sayingwe all have to go bankrupt.
No fucking way.
But really, the essence of thatis this business man trusted
other people in businessthat had been through failure.

(45:11):
In fact, he only trustedother people who had failed
and gotten back up,who had failed and then rebuilt.
And I think that's somethingwe have to own
if we're on the path of businessand entrepreneurship, is that
can we stop tryingto avoid failure?
And actually,can we just lean the fuck in?
And if failure meets us,not if failure meets us,
when failure meets us,can we use it as the compass?

(45:34):
That's helping us to, you know,bloom bigger,
grow bigger, root downdeeper into our missions
and into our voiceand into what we really
need to bring that thatshifted everything for me
to see how much I was like,going through business
so deeply scared and so inavoidance of failing,
when then I was like, fuck yeah,I want to be on
this entrepreneurship pathfor like decades

(45:55):
and decades to come.
Can I just can I open to this?
Right?
Can I welcome this?
Can I see this is somethingthat's for me?
Can I stop makingit mean so much about me
when this happens?
It's like a shame shifter takesI came for all to empowering.
Like, yes, totally that one.
Hopefullythat doesn't go bankrupt.
That that it's going to learnand evolve and yeah,

(46:19):
have a have a prosperous,long career in business.
Totally.
And like I said, I don't wishbankruptcy on anyone.
Like I don't think it hasto get to this kind of field.
But I think anyoneit might just be like a launch
that didn't go well or to plan,or when no one walks
up to your event,or you put all this effort
into a liveevent or live something,
and then likeyou sell one ticket

(46:39):
and you have to like, you know,rejig it on that thing.
Yeah.
Like, that's that'spart of business.
And yeah,when we remove the shame
from that, we're ableto move more quickly
and more efficiently and more,you know, gracefully towards
what we're really here to bring.
You asked me a question beforethat around the woman.

(47:02):
Yeah, yeah.
So me descending means this,like journey
a woman takes from her head.
Not even just ahead into a heart.
I think that's so much a partof the spiritual experience
and important partof the spiritual experience.
Or the embodied experience.
Head to heart.
You know,getting out of our head,
starting to open, startingto be vulnerable,
starting to connectwith our emotions

(47:23):
and our feelings.
But really, when I say a womanthat's descended into a body,
it's taking that further,taking that journey
even further down intoour wombs.
Our pussies like the part of usthat the well taught us
to disconnect from.
The part of usthe well taught us was wrong,
was dirty, was shamefulbecause that's where our
motherfucking power lives.

(47:44):
One of the things I say isyou disconnect a woman
from her pussy.
You disconnectfrom a power, from her power.
And that means you reconnecta woman to her pussy.
You reconnect herto her power, right?
Like her eros, her aliveness,her radiant to instincts.
This is really whereour instinctual nature,
our primal naturelives as woman,

(48:05):
like the animal part of us.
When we learn to reclaimthis primal animal within us,
our instinctsof eros are radiance.
Like all of these pieces,not only do
we just feel more aliveand more integrated,
more integrated,more whole as a woman,
but we're able to movethrough the world
like Rudy in that.
And how that shows upin business

(48:26):
is we're not just existing.
Yeah, like shouldersup in our business.
We're not overanalyzing everything.
We're notlooking out at the market
and followingevery fucking woman
in our industry, looking at howthey're doing it
and then deciding,how do I do it?
How should I look like her?
Should I have myvoice like that?
Should I do thisor should I do that?
I guess obviously that can bea beautiful part of business

(48:48):
when we're like tastingother people's energies
and we're tastingand looking and, you know,
feeling into the space.
Beautiful.
But if all of our decisionmaking is coming
from that place, we are goingto constantly feel in a state
of comparative comparison.
Discombobulation, you know,just pettiness
as we walk through our business.
Am I doing it right?
Am I doing it right?
Is that right?

(49:08):
You know, where when a womanand I've experienced
this in my own bodyand I witnessed this in,
you know, so many of the womenthat come into my world,
when a woman takes thatdescent into her body,
she's morerooted in her decision
making, her her creativity,you know, bodies
more liberated for herto actually feel her
authentic creativityand trust her

(49:30):
authentic creativity.
She trusts where her bodyis asking her to go
in her business again.
Like thatstory of me after my business
mastermind failed to be like,okay, I'm going to root down.
I'm going to feelthis heartbreak.
I'm going to feel all the shame.
I'm going to feel all this shit.
Right.
That's a huge part ofbeing a descended woman,
to feel all that ariseson the journey,
to not trying to bypassa push through,

(49:53):
like to feel it so deeply,to let it, you know, remake you,
let it make you moreif you let it transform you.
And then to go like afterthis business
mastermind for me to go, okay,what's the fucking truth here?
Where am I to go?
Body lead me bodymove me body show me.
And you know,on a regular basis.

(50:13):
And I love thatyou witnessed this in me.
Like on a daily, weekly basisin my own business.
Like,I'll just get pings of like,
oh, no, like we thoughtwe were going to
launch this day.
But actually it'sthat's not true.
Let's push it back a week.
We thought it was goingto have this name, like when
we're on a full SpectrumWoman launch right now.
I decided a week agothat it was going
to be completelyfucking revitalized

(50:35):
and transformedand have a new name
and all of thesedifferent things,
and we were going to hold it ina totally different frequency
than having a week ago,because my body was like,
this doesn'tthere's something here
that just doesn'tfeel fully landed.
And I explored that in my body.
And then I allowedthat to come through.
It's not always convenientbecause it means, you know,
shifting languageand changing things
on the sales pageand staying up late

(50:56):
to change that.
But that waswhat was being asked of me.
And soI think when a woman descends
into her body, she's ableto hold her business
in a missionwith more authenticity,
with more openness,with more trust.
Right?
She's got that relationshipwith life as well.
And and she's not feelinglike she's like gripping
or controlling herway to make it happen.
She's just the vesselto make it happen.

(51:18):
And not only do I feel likethose kind of missions allowed
or and not even alloweda bit more potent in the world,
I feel like the women leadingthose missions
just feel more alive,then more relaxed in their body
as they bring those, their voicein, their mission to the world.
Yeah.

(51:38):
Oh, amen to that.
And and you mean your work isis the gold standard?
I think, for women in businessto take that journey
of descent and understandwhat it feels like
to be in businessfrom an embodied state,
because, you know,I think most people are just
if you look at if you zoom outto like, business

(51:59):
as a model, as a structure,like it's a very masculine
structure, it'sa very neck up process
for most people, not hopefullythere's some love
and some good intentionsand into what we're doing.
But you know, when it doescome to like that full descent
and operating in that way.
And you are sucha beautiful example of it.

(52:19):
And I says, one of the reasonsI love working with you,
and that I don't mindwhen you switch something up
a week before launch, maybe noteverybody in the team at all
moments withthe yardstick is us, but that is
our job is to trulylisten to the creation
and what it's asking.
And I thinkthe only way that we can do that
accurately is bydiscerning the information

(52:41):
that's presentto us in our bodies, because,
you know, our minds,whatever they can create
whatever story we want,depending on, you know, what
we've recently seen or reador what other people are doing.
And and that is not meetingthe moment as it is
that meeting, you know, somebodyelse's past or,
you know, potentially a futureand try to, you know, manipulate
our experienceor our business to meet that.

(53:03):
And so I thinkit's like you said, a much more
authentic experiencewhen we just respond to
what is in the moment.
And, and part ofthe creative process
is we see a vision,we see, we feel.
And that, again, isis not external to us.
That is through us.
And then we are, you know, it'smore like being shown.
And thenwe can kind of strategize.

(53:24):
And, you know, I'm a digitalmarketing strategist,
so I fucking love strategy.
However, you know, we can workwith a future timeline and plan
all of the details in termsof, you know,
what are we offeringand when and
where are we putting, you know,getting your word out there
and all the thingsthat we can craft
into a strategy.
But until we startmoving with the strategy,
it shifts as we move, right?

(53:45):
Like, you know, the frequencythat we create
shifts the business.
So we need to be in in responseto, to that and to have the
the powerand the authority to say like,
this isn't sitting right.
This is what I feel is next.
And and that's courageousto make those moves
all of the time.
And I think that's part of the,the finesse of,

(54:06):
of being in business.
You just get used to making,you know, abrupt changes
and courageous choicesand trusting
that they're going to work outbecause you get more evidence
of them working outwhen you you move in that way.
So just honoring youand like, your process. Yeah.
Can I just add one thing thatbecause I want to circle back
to thatmaturation process in business

(54:28):
that like made into mother,like in the business,
I know I used to make abruptchanges in my business
when I was in thatmore maiden phase.
But it didn't come from truth.
It didn't come from body.
It came from,oh, maybe if I change this,
it'll work likelike maybe not being able
to really landand trust in a launch.
And I thought if a launch whilstI was in a launch,
if I quickly changeor change the branding,

(54:50):
or if I quicklychange the colors,
or if I quickly, you know,made changes to the sales page
that it would work.
And so again, that can be partof the process.
That can be, you know,but there's a difference
between almost likenot being able
to just land and trustand rest into, you know, a
launch, a business.
And almost these freneticquick changes versus changes

(55:13):
that are like,you know, a deeply
coming from an embodied place.
They can still be quick,they can still be like,
yes moves,but it's not this like,
I must do this so that it works.
It's like,I must do this because
this is what I'm being asked.
Does that make sense.
Oh yeah.
It's a completelydifferent feeling.
And I think the first oneis external and fear based.

(55:35):
And the second one is, is likea knowing inside and truth
based like it,it's not emotional.
It's just this needs to happenbecause it feels true.
So totally.
That's the difference.
Which brings meto my next question.
And you know,my journey in the descent,
like I was a neckup person for so, so long.
And that served me reallywell until it didn't.

(55:57):
And I was calledthrough my circumstances to, to,
you know, take that journey.
And I know I hear youtalk about this and,
and a lot of people are talkingabout the correlation
between feeling and receiving.
And obviously to feel, weneed to kind of thaw out
all of the ways in whichwe're not able to, to access.

(56:17):
And I know you doa lot of practices inside
full spectrum womanto help women relax and soften
into their bodies, butcan you explain your experience
with the ability to feeland the ability to receive.
And you mean that.
Yeah.
Like as we expandour ability to feel
we expand our abilityto receive.
Yeah. So intensely related.

(56:39):
Oh my gosh.
So correlated.
In so many ways.
Yeah.
And I feel like for me it'sthat descent piece again
because a woman that'sdevoted to feeling, you know,
we can drop into our hearts.
And I thinkwhen we drop into our hearts,
we're then just like,I want to feel joy
and I want to feel gratitude.
And again,nothing wrong with that.

(56:59):
But I'm doing this kind of like,love and light voice,
because that's kind of whatthat stage is.
It's like, I want to feel loveand I want to feel gratitude.
And, you know,I want to be in my heart
because it feels a bit yummyand delicious and.
Yeah, there's thattexture of feeling,
which is beautifuland part of the process.
But when I talk aboutfeeling again, it's that descent

(57:19):
into pussy and womband like the deeper parts of us
and it's it's the devotionto feeling the gritty.
Like when I,when a launch is failed,
can I fucking sit with my shame?
Can I let the shame so deeplytake up space in my body.
Instead of tryingto push past it and pretend it's
not there and bypassit and just get on with it?
Can I meet the shame in my body?

(57:39):
Right.
That's the only way through.
And that is whywhen we are women devoted to
feeling at all, devotedto being so deeply
alive in our bodies,feeling the gritty things,
feeling the shame,feeling the heartbreak,
feeling the disconnection,feeling all of that.
That's what liberates our bodyand our ability to receive.

(58:00):
The only way out is through.
And so that's a big reason whyI think our ability to feel
is so deeply correlatedto our ability to receive,
because if we're not feeling,our body is not a vessel
for receive a ship, right?
It's it's clogged, it's stuck.
There's, you know,the energies and flowing.
And if we'renot meeting that shame.

(58:22):
Right, that's just going tolife is just going to keep
giving us experiencesto reflect fact that shame.
So we fucking made itat some point, right.
So when we sayyes to the shame, we're saying
yes to that initiationthat life is offering us.
Yeah.
If I wouldn'thave felt the shame after that
business mastermind launch,if I would have just gone.
Keep going.

(58:42):
Do it again.
Let's let's, you know,let's work out what went wrong.
No doubt I would have hadanother failure
and another failurethat brought me
to my motherfucking knees againuntil I sat down and I was like,
can I be with the part of methat thinks I fucked up
and I failed and nothing'sever going to work out?
Can I be with the part of methat thinks that, it's such
a shameful experience,and I don't want anyone

(59:03):
to know that Ifailed in this moment,
that my ability to feel thatand cry with that
and grieve with that,and let that take me down
and let that take me to my kneesand let that break me open.
That is why the next time,you know,
I leant into launching,you know, I was able to receive
in deeper ways than I have.

(59:25):
Yeah.
So feeling, receiving,inextricably connected,
I feel especially as women.
Yeah.
And when I say receiving too,like I am talking about,
you know, financial abundance,success, all of that.
But when I speak of receiving,I think it's it's all it's more
so just receiving all thatyou already
are receiving the visionthat you're already living

(59:47):
and the the wholenessthat you already are.
And so, yes,everything that we're
kind of resisting to feelbecause like you said,
it's like not palatable.
It doesn't feel good.
It it triggerssomething in us that makes us,
you know, fight, flight, freeze,all of the things
when we when we learn.
And we can find safetyin being able to feel the feels.

(01:00:07):
And I am not an expert at this,but I'm getting way better.
You know, my my deeper wayis often like distract
and focus on something else.
I think a lot of entrepreneurs,you know, find solace
in being ableto just like shift our focus
and going somewhere elsewithout properly digesting
what's actuallyhappening in our system.
But when we can learnto properly digest and feel

(01:00:29):
and ultimately just come backto a state
of like contented wholeness,then we receive all that we are
and everything that wewe desire in, in that moment.
And so it's it'salmost like this
reverse engineering.
So like, oh,it's not like that out there
we're trying to receive.
It's actually all that.
We really are receiving this.
Yeah, I have all that Idesire right here.

(01:00:51):
I want to speak a little moreinto that,
because even in sayingwhen I said, yeah, my ability
to be with the shame,and then the next time,
you know, I opened, you know,actually after that,
in a financial capacity,the last few years
since that experiencehave I been in
such a build phaseof my business.
In fact, I was making more moneybefore, you know, when I ran

(01:01:12):
that sold out mastermind,I had, you know,
I was having bigger monthsthen than I, you know,
I've had some big monthsin the last few years, but
I don't feel that I have it.
I'm I feel so much more fedand I feel so I'm creating a way
more sustainable business.
And I can feel the build even.
You know, this month has beenone of my biggest months.

(01:01:32):
And like, I've been workingto this sustainable,
place and I'm receiving,I feel more fed and more relaxed
and more open because whatI'm creating feels
so fucking authentic, right?
And there's less of the gripand less of the force.
And so, yeah, I love thatyou just brought that, that
this isn't just about,yeah, this isn't

(01:01:53):
just about financial,receivership
or financial abundanceand wealth.
Yes.
That's an importantpart of business.
That's a part of the reason whyeveryone's in business. Right.
And that has to be a partof the conversation,
and we can't.
Well, I don't want to bea part of conversations
that are.
That'sthat are exclusively a part
about that. Right?

(01:02:15):
I want to bea part of conversations,
especially with women aroundhow does it feel?
How does it feel?
Do you feel alive?
Do you feel in integritywith what you're
bringing through?
How does your voice feel?
Does it feel true right?
Does it feel good?
Do you feelone of the biggest reflections
I got on the weekend at my,three day immersion?
We had this beautiful experienceat the end where we each got,

(01:02:35):
you know, toto take the Queen's chair
and get reflections fromeveryone
and get loved up on everyone.
And I took the seat last.
And one of thebiggest reflections I got
from every womanin this space was
the ease in which you.
There was there was no,compartmentalization of me

(01:02:57):
over that weekend.
I brought my son in to feed.
I was with my husband.
I was like,it wasn't like business.
Woman facilitator here,mother here, this there.
Like, I.
I was just all of itin that room, right?
And that for me is successand wealth and abundance
in businessthat I don't have to go, oh, I'm

(01:03:19):
facilitating now,or I'm being a mother now.
It's like I, it'sthis gorgeous union
and merging of all of that.
And yeah, for methat is receivership.
That is wealth.
I'm so here to make gloriousamounts of money
and be a stewardof such deep wealth,
but not at the cost of havingto compartmentalize myself.

(01:03:41):
Yeah.
Amen to that.
And you know, when,when we speak about receivership
and a lot of, like, what you'reteaching inside full
spectrum woman,you know, the descent
and working with the,you know, working with our
pleasure and the death,rebirth creative process,
like all of the thingsof the feminine,
which I think areso our super power

(01:04:04):
as women of business, like,if we're disconnected
from this partof our innate ability as women,
we are operating in businessas as men or as, you know,
lifeless versions of ourself,essentially, you know,
this, this abilityto tune into the feminine.
Everything is teachinsightful spectrum. Women

(01:04:24):
is is the differencebetween having, an integrated
full spectrumlifestyle where it is
all just and not alllike we obviously ebb and flow.
It's not all going to be, like,abundant and flow every day.
We're going to meetour challenges.
But it's it's it's more united.
It's more wholein the way that we live.

(01:04:47):
Can you speak alittle bit more in terms of,
you know, full spectrum women?
You've got, an amazing program.
It's it's coachingwith you, group
coaching with you,2 to 3 times a month.
It's a full curriculum,like how this could benefit
a woman in businessand how it could
truly transform themthrough the initiation

(01:05:08):
of your programinto their next level.
Oh, I love this.
Yeah.
My workisn't even full spectrum.
Woman.
Like I said I don't specificallymarket this a whole
this as a businesscan business container at all.
But I would saymajority of women that step into
my world are entrepreneursand creatives
and business women and there islike we just said and there's,

(01:05:35):
inextricable connectionbetween our body
and our receivershipand how landed and descended
we are and our body andour ability to hold a mission
and be a voice for a missionand to, you know, steward wealth
or steward emissionthrough in the world. And so,
yeah, I would say, you know,the full spectrum
woman is really this,this pathway or this initiation

(01:05:58):
into the body, into pussy,into worm, into descending,
not just into the heart,but into, you know, the full
primal, greedy, wild,untamed parts of being woman.
And of course, that is it'sgoing to touch
every realm of a woman's life,her relationship,
her sex life, her businessand mothering all of it.

(01:06:20):
Yeah.
And when aI've seen this in my own life,
you know, even the yearthat I really devoted myself
to coming home to my sexualityand my body worlds that year,
I spoke of earlier where I wentfrom a 40 year
to a quarter of $1 milliona year.
Yes.
There were other piecesthat obviously that was I'm
invested in mentorship.
I did all these things,but that was a huge

(01:06:41):
foundational piece to that.
Right?
Not part of the journey.
So yeah, I would say ifa woman is knowing,
especially ifyou're a woman listening
and you feelyourself in business
from that realshoulders up place,
if you feel yourselfgetting caught in,
you know, comparison and,just really exhausted
from thinking yourselfthrough your business

(01:07:04):
and forcingand grouping and feeling like,
you know, this tighthold on your business.
And I know what that feels like.
If this is you, this pathway inthis initiate session
is for you, right?
It's going to support youto release the grip
in your body, release the gripthat you're

(01:07:24):
holding on your businessso that you can truly
bring the voice, the mission,the wisdom, the facilitation
that you're really hereto bring, which will
naturally, obviously,under notably shift what you're
receiving financially,what you're receiving.
Yeah.
In your entire business.

(01:07:45):
Yeah.
Yeah, I love it.
And I would love to knowwhat is next for you.
What do you feel like?
Where do you feel likeyour body of work is going,
and what is turning youon the most
about your work right now?
Okay, I love thisbecause I have deep clarity
from the weekend.
I haven't even told you thisand I'm like,

(01:08:06):
I say it because it'sI please transcribe.
It's not fullyfucking landed yet.
But you say, right, you wantwe can catch up on the rest
after I got suchand and for those listening,
who the fuck knowswhen this is going to be?
This could be in the nextthree months.
This could be inthe next three years.
But I just got such a deep,deep feeling and a deep,

(01:08:27):
yeah, a deep, full bodied nudge.
After the weekendthat I'm here to,
I'm here to runsome kind of facilitated
training for women,some kind of feminine
embodiment facilitatortraining and teach women
how to hold otherwomen and teach women
how to guide when other womeninto their bodies
and take that descent.

(01:08:48):
That just feels like thethe next evolution of my work.
I've been teachingthis work for a while.
It's such a giftto witness women, you know,
drop into their bodies.
And I had multiplewomen in the room
on the weekends say, like,how do I, I want to do this?
I, I, I want to learnhow you hold space like this.
I want to I want to learnhow you facilitate like this.
So yeah, this justand oh my God,

(01:09:11):
it just feels so exciting.
I've never reallyI've never really allowed myself
to fully receivethe idea of doing that.
So that just feels sofucking exciting and just, Yeah.
What I'm what I'm being calledto allow myself
to be the vessel for.
So what's this space?
Who knowswhat here for us to that?

(01:09:31):
But I'm, I'm really excited.
And that piecealso I'm, I'm really
And we've had conversationsaround this, like knowing that
I am hereto really support women
in their leadershipand in, like,
these kind of conversations,these business
kind of conversations.
Tell me the fuck on.
I love them, I love them.
And even though I spokeabout that business mastermind

(01:09:53):
that failedand all those pieces, I know
the next evolutionof my business
as well is having more womenthat are deeply in leadership
roles and, creating movementand really wanting
to hone their voice,like really, you know,
having them infull spectrum woman
having having more of themin my work, having more of them
in different containers,that really fucking excites me

(01:10:14):
because these conversations areso important, so.
Yes.
Just seeing you and all of thatand so excited and honored
to create that with you.
I love co-creation and justhow it works.
And, you know, when a,when something is received

(01:10:35):
and then passed onand how it works
with everybody involved to,to bring it to life
is truly spectacular.
And like you said,you don't know the timing.
You don't know the timing.
You know that that feels true.
And that's one ofyour next steps.
And now, you know,we get to to pay attention
to what is being revealed to usand what the truth of the moment

(01:10:56):
is, and take steps as we go.
But right now, a full spectrumwoman is is taken over and,
it is at this moment open for,enrollment.
It's a year or two.
You want to take a momentand just tell everybody
listening aboutFull Spectrum Woman
and how they canbe a part of it.

(01:11:18):
Yeah.
We've justI'm calling this, like,
the new era of fullspectrum woman.
I've been running thisin many ways, shapes and forms
for almost five years.
But this timewe have transformed her
into a yearlong groupcoaching journey.
So all that we spoke aboutin this podcast,
really full spectrummoment, is the place women
come to descendinto their bodies.

(01:11:38):
Maybe they've already beenon the spiritual path
for a little whileand they're like, oh,
I know how to bea bit vulnerable.
I know how to, you know, openmy heart a little.
But womenthat are really wanting
to take that further journey,like into their pussy,
into the womb,to be a woman that feels it
all the gritty pieces,the DACA pieces
of our womanhood,the parts of our womanhood
that the world told usnot to be or not to express or

(01:11:59):
not to embody,our eroticism, Morpheus
voice, our instincts,our primal nature,
all of these pieces.
This is really what goes downin, in this space.
And we've transformed itinto a container.
So you get to comeand be devoted to this year
and be held in this containerand have me as your coach

(01:12:20):
for an entire yearas you do this.
I'm such abig advocate that, yes,
like even listeningto this podcast,
there might be elementsthat are going to change,
you know, changethe way you show up
listening to other podcasts.
Oh, amazing.
But I don't thinkreal life in Body Changes
happens over at our podcast.
But real life and body changescan happen

(01:12:42):
in a motherfucking year.
Oh my God, that changes.
That can happen in a year.
The changesI've seen in my own body,
the changesI've seen in the lives,
the bodies and the livesand the relationships
and the businesses of the womenthat come into full
spectrum woman.
In a year like, oh my gosh,how much can change in
that period of time? Soyeah, if you're a
woman that knows thisand you would feel that

(01:13:04):
if you're listening,if you know that,
oh my God, that the scent iswhat I'm needing next.
And it's a little scaryand it makes me nervous
and what's, what am I goingto be required to do?
What's it's going to ask of me?
Beautiful.
Like that's let that guide you.
Let that lead you.
Let let that pull youinto this space.
And come on this, this,this journey with me

(01:13:24):
for the next yearbecause it's going to be wild
and beautiful and,and full spectrum.
And I can't waitto be in your corner as you,
give yourself permissionto be this. Yeah.
Not only is it, Meg, it'sa whole community of women
that are on thispassage right now,
and I truly feel likeit is a rite of passage.
And it is.
This is the bridge betweensomebody that's not.

(01:13:50):
Not that they'renot, but they're.
They know there's more.
They knowthere's more to being a woman.
They know that there is moreto their relationships.
And, you know,I am a testament to
to your work,like a 20 year marriage.
I feel like I'mso happy to celebrate.
I've never felt morein love and connected
and just havingthe time of my life
with my husband of 20 years.

(01:14:11):
We met when we were babiesand so, you know,
your work was such a,a support in us
maturing together.
Because when you areon a growth journey
in relationship for,for that long, you know it,
things can fall out of sync.
Throw in some kids, throw in,you know, some businesses and
and just yeah, the journeythat you take women on
to ultimately come back tothe truth of themselves and,

(01:14:35):
and helping themdevelop the language,
to be able to have powerful,you know, dialogs
with their loved ones,to be able to really honor
their true needs and desiresis it's it's a world class.
And so I always recommendanybody who wants to go
on this journeyof stepping into their,
their womanhoodto descend into their,
their body.
You are the teacher,that I so highly recommend.

(01:14:58):
So everybody check outMeg's work.
Full spectrumwoman is open for enrollment.
I will be addingall of the links
to the show notes,so you'll know
where to find her.
And. Yeah.
Is there anything elseyou want to say before we close?
I just like to thank youand your work and your team.
And like I said, you, your teamand you were such a huge part

(01:15:20):
in the maturationof my own business and
I'm very muchlike the maturation
of made into motherin my business,
in a business sense,has been realizing
I can't do it all and partof being able to release
the gripis also been able to go,
I need to trustother humans to hold me and,

(01:15:41):
support meand run this mission with me.
And, you and your teamhave just been
so fucking phenomenal at that.
I could not hold the thethe bigness of the vision
that I haveand the mission that I have
and all that's comingwithout you and your team.
Yeah.
And I'm just.
It just makes me sofucking happy

(01:16:01):
to be doing this with you.
And to have, you know,I have had other women
work for me in the past.
And when I was,when a particular chapter
closed with my last support,and I was looking for someone,
I was like,I want someone that's
really fucking investedin my mission.
I want someone that like,really is living and breathing
it alongside meand believes in it

(01:16:21):
and believes in like,yeah, believes in women
coming home to their bodyand coming home to themselves.
And you are just that.
And that makes sucha difference, right?
Having someoneyou know believe in my mission
alongside me, and I'mjust so fucking grateful
for all that you do and all thatyou offer me and my mission
and the women at work.
The women that workin my world too.

(01:16:41):
So thank you all.
I love you, thank you.
And that's the standard, right?
That's how good it gets to bea win win, win win.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Well, thank you so much.
And, yeah, all the links arein the show notes.
See you next time.

(01:17:02):
Yo, yo, yo.
Thank you so much for tuning into another episode of sex,
love and everything in between.
Now, if you'd liketo stay connected with Megan AI,
you can head onover to Instagram and follow me
at the Jacob O'Neal.
And where can peoplefind you, lover at the Dot?
Megan.
Oh amazing.
And yeah, guys,check out the show notes

(01:17:23):
for all other informationin regards
to what we've got coming up.
And yeah, we're super,super grateful
that you guys have takenthe time
to listen in to this podcast.
If you do have any topicsor any questions, like I said,
hit us up on Instagramand we'll see what we can do.
Apart from that,have a beautiful,
beautiful rest of your day.
Thanks for being here.
Big, big love.

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