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July 9, 2025 60 mins

“There’s a reason brotherhood feels confronting: it won’t let you stay the same.”

This one’s for the men who are tired of playing a role.
And for the women who are tired of watching them pretend.

In today’s episode, I sat down with my brother, Nick Warner, a father, men’s facilitator, and one of the most grounded, embodied leaders I know. We get into the shadow side of men’s work, the trap of emotional dumping, the chaos of Neo-Tantra, and the slow, sacred work of actually becoming trustworthy.

We talk about fatherhood as initiation, the pressure to perform polarity, and why true devotion has nothing to prove.

This isn’t about masculine aesthetic.
This is about leadership, when no one’s watching.

🔥 Here’s What We Dive Into:

  • The illusion of freedom in “uncommitted” masculine identity
  • Why polyamory & open relating often mask intimacy wounds
  • The knight vs. king archetypes — and how men get stuck performing
  • Spiritual bypassing in men’s work and Neo-Tantra spaces
  • The line between sacred vulnerability vs. emotional collapse
  • What real devotion looks like in fatherhood and marriage
  • How brotherhood humbles and forges the masculine path
  • The question that ends the performance: Who do you serve?


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