September 11, 2025 • 21 mins
Three hundred episodes and 4.2 million downloads! What started as a simple DVD in the early days of Facebook has grown into a worldwide movement transforming dog training as we know it.
In this milestone celebration, host Lauren Langman sits down with trainer Sam to reflect on their games-based training journeys. Sam shares how her relationship with her first dog was deteriorating until she discovered a training approach that emphasized fun and flexibility over rigid commands. That transformation was so profound that she eventually became a trainer herself, helping countless others experience similar breakthroughs.
What makes games-based training so special? For starters, it's genuinely fun, removing the pressure and seriousness that often accompanies traditional methods. Rather than focusing on specific behaviors like "sit" or "stay," games develop fundamental skills that reshape how dogs think, creating lasting changes that work across different situations. Perhaps most importantly, this approach can be incorporated into everyday life in short bursts—while boiling the kettle, watching television, or during brief moments throughout walks.
The hosts discuss how this method benefits humans just as much as dogs, increasing our flexibility, providing a sense of achievement, and improving mental wellbeing. As Lauren poignantly notes, "It's not that they are giving us a hard time, they're having a hard time," and games provide a compassionate framework for understanding and addressing our dogs' needs.
Looking forward, Lauren announces an exciting free virtual event on November 8-9 (with limited tickets available), and challenges listeners to share the podcast with at least one friend. After 300 episodes, the mission remains unchanged: helping owners become their dogs' top priority through trust, communication, and the joy of play.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to the Absolute Dog Sex in a Squirrel
podcast.
I'm Lauren Langman.
I'm one of the world's leadingdog trainers and it's my mission
to help owners become theirdog's top priority.
In each episode, you'lldiscover how to gain trust and
communicate with your dog likenever before, creating
unbreakable bonds that make youthe most exciting part of their
world hello and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's the 300th episode.
I'm sam and I am taking overthis podcast.
I'm not really.
I'm not really.
That's mad, isn't?
It?
Isn't that mad like where didthat happen?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
that's crazy it's big , it's big.
And four point I think we're at4.2 million.
That's, that's insane downloads.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, that's cool 4.2 million I love that we've
reached so many people like that.
That's I mean that for me,that's the, that's the crux of
that, like we've got, we'vereached so many people with this
incredible way of training andit's incredible, ah, so good
games based dog trainingreaching 4.2 million download
listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Like that, you know what we've got to do this about
that.
It's not what I'm expectinglike literally just an immense
feeling.
Now let's think about ourjourneys, because I know that
actually, sam part of the reasonthat you came in here as a
300th episode celebratory moment.
What a journey.
It's been a journey for you,right?
(01:27):
How did it start?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So back in the days of DVDs DVDs it could have been
VHS or it could be worse so backin the day of DVDs, when
Facebook was just a baby, Iremember seeing an advert come
up and it was literally like getthis DVD.
And you were showing loads ofgames and stuff like that on on
the video and I was just likethat looks really fun.
And at a time when me and myfirst dog, luna, were at a place
(01:50):
where she was sort of growlingat us because we were trying to
take stuff off us when shesteals and like her walking was
awful, she would just pull likea train, like constantly there
was.
No, we didn't really exist.
We were just the givers of food, the givers of of walks, and it
was getting frustrating and ourrelationship was like
deteriorating.
It was sad and it was sad tosee her sad as well and I just
didn't know what to do.
And we try and taken her tolike a few like puppy classes
(02:11):
and stuff like that and theyjust weren't very nice, they
didn't sit well with me.
And then I saw that ad and I waslike, oh, I mean, it's just,
it's a free dvd, like what canit hurt?
Right, I'll just get it paidthe postage and packaging got
the dvd and absolutely loved it,absolutely loved every second
of it, and then realized thatthere was a games club and I was
like I want to, I want to dothat, I want to be in games club
(02:33):
.
And I remember sending a reallytearful email being like please
, let me in.
Please, I don't know what to do, I need more games, I need to
know how to do this.
And then it opened anyway and Iwas able to get in and now I'm
a trainer and I do filming hereand I've had students, you know,
and yeah, it's completely likeoverturned my life and I've got
(02:55):
another dog.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Which is crazy.
What a different world,considering you think back when
DVDs were everything DVDs andyou picked up that DVD.
You thought games-based dogtraining is for me.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean, I didn't even know what that was, you know, I
didn't even know that it wasgames-based training.
I was just like that looksreally cool and apparently it's
going to help me sort out mywalks.
Brilliant, and it did.
You know, and that's the crazything is like all of the stuff
that we had but all of thestruggles.
Now we've got like a tool beltof stuff to do so it's fun I
(03:26):
think the biggest thing withgames-based dog training is it's
fun.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So let's do quick tips tennis, all right, why we
love games-based dog training.
And I'm gonna say let's goright off with the fun one.
For me it's fun and when you'replaying games it's easy to lose
the seriousness at the momentand I think I definitely know,
for I can be really serious withmy dog training, especially
because I've got a competitiveedge.
So I want to compete with mydogs and that sometimes takes
(03:50):
away the fun element, becauseyou've got pressure, because you
want it to work, you want it tobe good right, and when you've
got pressure you can lose thefun.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So I love the Mary Poppins saying in every sort of
bit of work that needs to bedone, there must be, yeah, an
element of fun.
And then she goes off withspoonful of sugar.
Helps the medicine?
We don't.
They want to hear you singalong.
Come on, sam, come on, uh,green eggs and ham in her camper
van so, but I like you, youlike singing that song, don't?
You.
Yeah, I do like that one, soI'm gonna say it's fun, so
games-based dog training is fun.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
How about you?
What's your?
What's your next?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
my my, my best thing for me is that there is there's
no one fix all and so there areso many different games and
strategies and and things thatyou can use for your tool belt
that if one thing doesn't workfor your dog, then you can use
something else and it worksskills.
So it doesn't necessarily worklike a specific behavior, like a
sit or a down.
It works skills within your dog, it reshapes their brain.
(04:43):
And there are so many differentgames that you can have a lot
of variety and for me that islike huge because I think it
gets boring.
Otherwise, you know I love itand it keeps you going.
It keeps you doing it becauseyou're having, because of the
fun, and it's the variety thatmakes it fun for me, so it keeps
you interested.
You're constantly learning.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
He's a dog interested .
Speaker 1 (05:02):
For me.
The next one is why I playgames and why games-based dog
training works, and why it's our300th episode and why it's
still here and why it lasts.
It goes the test of time.
You can do it anywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So you can actually play it anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So, whether I'm in an airport, or whether I'm in a
competition, or whether I'm inmy back garden or my living room
or we're watching movies withfriends and I don't want my dog
jumping all over the sofa,there's always a game for that.
Yeah, and I can play itanywhere.
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I love that yeah, I think for me as well it's.
It's long lasting.
So when you get those resultsand you've reshaped your dog's
brain, it is a long lastingchange, like my dogs are not the
same dogs that I had when Istarted and they've taken us,
like on journeys that's whatthey do, isn't it?
But they are the change thatwe've seen through the skills
that we have given them throughthe games-based training.
(05:47):
It's long-lasting, it's there.
You know that they're like oh,that's what I do now, that's
what I am now, that's the dog Iam now.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So that for me is, I think, something that you don't
get in a lot of the training Iagree, and then I suppose I'd
add to that and raise it againwhy games-based training?
I think it's really kind yeah.
I think that I'm verycompassionate towards my dogs.
Through games, I think that Irealize often that maybe it's
not that they are giving us ahard time.
They're actually having areally hard time, yeah.
(06:14):
And so through games you startto be, I would just say, a
better owner yeah, you become amore vigilant owner, you become
a more observant owner, youbecome a more aware of your dog
and their needs owner, and thatfor me is a really special place
to be, actually, that you areyour dog's best advocate and
you're really safeguarding yourdog through games.
(06:35):
And I think games do thatbecause they allow you the
window and the moment toactually really watch what's
happening, because you're justhaving fun right.
So it takes off other layers ofpressure so that when you are
looking you can kind of balanceit a bit more and you can notch
it down or you can notch it upaccordingly, but all within
advocating for your dog.
I love it.
I love it, yeah, I think, oh,but all within advocating for
your dog.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, I think, fitting it howit fits into your life, right?
So a lot of the kind of thingsthat we talk about are things
like ditch the routine and ditchthe bowl and don't do the same
thing in the same way all thetime for your dog, because it
helps your dog, but what thatactually means is it really
makes it easier for you as well.
So you end up finding ways towork your life.
Finding ways to work your life,finding ways to work your dog's
life around you, rather thanthe other way around you know
(07:15):
that's huge, isn't it?
because I think sometimes youknow that I need to get home
because I need to do this with adog.
Well, actually, no, my dog'sused to me just coming home
whenever and doing games withthem whenever and playing and
getting their food whenever, andthere's no set structure into
what they do.
But that works and it and itworks in terms of their training
and it works in terms of themchanging their behaviour as well
.
So it kind of it works for youinadvertently.
(07:38):
It's like a nice little tick, alittle bonus, which I just love
.
I think that's really cool.
You can just do it while youlike boil in a kettle, you can
play it quick, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm going to add to that.
I'm going to say it increasesgames based learning, increases
our flexibility as well as ourdogs.
Yes, and so for me, I am notalways most flexible person, but
I would say that gaze-basedlearning really helps me to be
more flexible.
Yeah, because it says wellactually, for example, I was
driving home today and in myhead I was like I need to get
this, this, this and this andthis done with the dogs that
(08:07):
I've just brought home.
I've just been to achiropractor with my dogs and
myself and they were adjusted,and on the way home I was like
that's not all fitting and I waslike it doesn't matter actually
, because she can have a lightday and she can do that tomorrow
.
Yeah, and then actually I didthat yesterday, so it does all
fit.
I just have to be a bitflexible with it, and it's
really good for us to remindourselves flexibility yeah, but
I would say it really maximizesflexibility for our dogs
(08:29):
games-based learning but it alsoreally maximizes flexibility in
our people.
Yeah, and I would say for me,I'm always a better person where
I can be more flexible, and Ithink that for all of us,
flexibility is often, especiallyas you get older.
Look at us, two oldies, we'renot old.
But, especially as we age.
I'm 20.
Didn't have any big birthdaysthis year.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And especially as we get older.
I think it's really importantthat we actually recognise that
flexibility doesn't increase asa muscle.
No, flexibility is one of thosethings that we get less and
less and less flexible.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Do it less rather than more, so I think that
games-based learning increasesflexibility over to you green,
yes, and I think for me, goingback on to kind of on the back
of it, being flexible, Iactually think as well.
What I really like is it's notthis huge amount of time that
you have to dedicate to it.
And I know that sounds like yousort of go, like that sounds a
little bit lazy, but actually,yeah, you know, I don't have
loads of time in my day to dolike hours and hours of training
for my dog and what you do isyou chunk it down into loads of
(09:24):
tiny little segments throughoutthe day.
And that because going to atraining class like once a week
for an hour, you know and thenhaving to go home and do all the
training as well, that isthat's taxing and that takes up
a lot.
It's a lot of commitment.
But actually being able to justlike boil a kettle and play a
few games or sit down and dolike a boundary game you know, a
bed game or you can just playthem if you're going on a walk
(09:46):
and you just fit it in where youneed to fit it in, but they're
really short segments and thatfor me is really important
because I don't think,especially knowing my
personality and knowing like alack of consistency and forget,
just like a terrible, forgetfulmemory, being able to just be
like I'm boiling the kettle oh,I should.
I'll grab a handful of food andplay a quick game while I'm
doing this.
You know it really helps.
(10:07):
It's a, it's a, it's a big wayof me, one of the reasons I love
this way it enables it's yeah,it's just yeah, it's just so
easy to work your life around it.
You know it doesn't become allencompassing, which also takes
the pressure off.
It completely takes thepressure off and you're not
feeling like, oh, I've got to goand train the dog, you love it,
because you're like, oh yeah,I've just played a really cool
quick game, I've done a bit oftraining for the day.
(10:28):
Well, it's very much, yeah,done smashing it, crushing it, I
think.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Adding to that, I think it's a really big one for
me on a day-to-day basis withgames-based learning, most
people lack in their lives fun,achievement, feeling like
they're winning and successful,good mental space, good mental
capacity, feeling like they're awinner.
I think games-based learningdoes all of that, yeah, and I
think it's very contagious andwhat I'm going to say to
(10:55):
everybody who's listening pleaseshare it with a friend oh yes,
whether it's sharing the podcastwith a friend, or whether it's
sharing the some of the freeresources with a friend.
There'll be um links to themaround this podcast somewhere.
Whatever it is, give theopportunity of sharing.
Yeah right, sharing is sharingis caring.
Sharing is caring.
Have you shared it with anyone?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
let's say oh I'm, I'm not gonna lie.
I'm always like have you heardof games?
You've got a dog.
Have you heard of games?
Hey, how about this hustling?
Let me, let me teach yousomething, and it's not because
I'm like I want to bring them tothe, to business, do you know?
I mean like to answer to what wedo, it's because I'm so
freaking passionate, passionateabout it that I I just want to
like share it for the joy andfor the, for the, the wins that
(11:37):
you get with your dog, ofeverything we've just talked
about.
Really, because for me it's hugeyeah, and I think my next one
would be as well actually seeingthe change in students that
I've worked with as well,because that has been like
magical, and there's somethingreally special about seeing
someone come to you in in in astate of of sadness and worry
(11:57):
about what they might have to dowith their dog.
You know anxiety, yeah, andbeing able to help them find
ways to transform that and lookto the future of what they've
got with their dog and beingable to see their dog's
transformation and the joy thatthat brings to them has been
something so, so, so specialthat you know, being with with
absolute dogs has has like givenme, which is really cool, so
(12:17):
that's part of my journey, thatis, you know, that's been very,
very special to me and if Ithink about my journey with
poppy, for example, poppy wasreally the reason that we have
naughty but nice.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So poppy was was original naughty but nice dog
and those of you that don't know, poppy poppy was very, very,
very chase driven.
Border collie, really high chasedriven yeah but actually when I
think about poppy, she was nodifferent to my next border
collie, easy, who actually wasvery, very similar but
differently brought up.
Yeah, and then earlier I wasjust talking to my trainer here
one of the trainers that worksfull-time and with the team here
(12:46):
and she said I just took outthat young collie and she legged
it from the garden to chase thechicken and I'm like that's
exactly the same dog, isn't it?
what lesson we're being able tobe learning again exactly the
same type and stamp.
It's what you do with it now,and so what we do with that is
we actually put her in a gardenthat she cannot see and escape
out of.
Yeah, and we train her in thatspace first and then we
(13:08):
gradually grow it and make thatworld bigger, but what we don't
do is give her the opportunityto go wrong.
Yeah, at the moment she can getthrough the gap in the fence
and she is going to take theopportunity to go wrong.
Go find the sheep or go find achicken or go find a cat or go
find a piece of fox pooterrolling, whatever it is that
dog's taking the opportunity.
And I suppose for me, thejourney is that often the dogs
that we we have, they're justnot equipped for the spaces that
(13:30):
we're putting them in.
And we're putting them inspaces or worlds or towns or
cities or sort of countryside orsheep or cattle or whatever
else that they're just notequipped for.
And whilst they're not equippedfor that, then we need to
consider whether actually that'sthe right space for them right
now, or could we like make theirworld a little bit smaller?
Build the games.
Build and grow the games.
Build and grow the conceptsthat we're teaching and then
(13:52):
gradually bring them back intothose spaces.
And that's what what I thinkgames do.
Yeah, they allow you to teachthe concept away from the
problem and then they allow youto put it back together again
and voila, it's there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, it's really lovely it's a really lovely
experience it just takes thestress off you as well, doesn't
it?
Because, like, nobody wants tobe in that problem situation.
It's not fun for the dog, it'snot fun for you, it's just, it's
just all out stressful andyou're getting frustrated and
it's not fun for the dog andit's not fun for you, it's just
all out stressful and you'regetting frustrated and it
damages your relationship withyour dog.
So, just the ability toactually be like okay with going
I don't need to put them inthat situation right now and
(14:23):
knowing that the solutions thatyou've got are going to change
that, yeah, that is like a hugeone really, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Big win.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Absolutely huge one.
I think, looking at like myjourney with my dogs, you have
like an idea of what your dogdream looks like and you've got
a picturesque version of youknow like wonderful walks on the
beach and your dog's justlovingly looking up at you.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's like at the pub and the dog's just chilling and
you're having your lunch andyour dog's eating ploughmans and
your dog's just sat there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Occasionally sneaking a bit of cheese.
Yeah, they look at you lovingly,they wag at a human that comes
nearby, but they're notinterested because they love you
and they're still going to beaccepting of a stroke, but
ultimately they're very loyal toyou yeah, and a dog comes past
and they have a perfect likeinteraction with them, they have
a bit of a play, but then theytrot off with you, so you have
all these into the sunsetholding hand and paw, you know.
(15:15):
So you've got this vision rightand it's perfection.
And then you get a dog and andI've, you know in case, I've got
a puppy.
And this puppy is like a littledevil, you know, and she's
really lovely, she's reallysweet, but she's got dog
tendencies and it's just normaldog behavior.
But you're like, what do I dowith this?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I remember a puppy owner brought two Jet Russell
Terriers to me for a puppy classa long time ago and she sat
them on the lap and everyone wasgoing around and I said to
everyone yeah, they're bred forchasing and working sheep.
And another one said, yeah,mine's bred as a guide dog.
And another one we went roundto and, yeah, it was like a lap
dog, a handbag dog, like a.
Pomeranian, very, very sweetlittle dog, and I came to the
(15:55):
Jack Russell Terrier lady andshe said that they were always
bred to be companions and I waslike how do I say to her these
actually are murderers.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You actually have two murderers on your lap, because
they're bred to rat, they'rebred to kill, they're bred to
snap a neck and off they go.
They're not bred to be lap dogs.
They do not give up.
When she said they were lapdogs, I was like these are not
lap dogs.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
How do you tell her she's moved?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
in a murderer.
She's moved in, in fact, notone, but two.
They've moved into her house,in the house.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I've, and it is that thing, isn't it that actually,
like you just said, you moved inthis puppy?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
yeah, I didn't have a clue, but actually you weren't
necessarily skilled up enough tohelp educate her and what she
needed, no, and so we made lotsof mistakes, which is, you know,
which is normal and that's howyou learn right.
And then going through gamesclub and learning all of these
new techniques and learning her,and also like starting to look
at other dogs when we're out andabout and seeing how their
behavior is and thinking, oh, Iwould do this for that.
(16:43):
And that's kind of how I becamea trainer, I think, because I
was always like what would I dofor that?
And then eventually we got oursecond dog and then that came
with a whole new host ofproblems and it was learning
again all over and completelydifferent problems to my first
dog, you know.
And again you think you've gotthe skills.
Then you're like, yeah, well,I've done it with this dog,
sorted it, smashed it, and thenshe comes in and she's like, no,
no, no, I'm going to teach yousomething entirely new.
But now I feel like I'm very,very skilled up and I I'm sure
(17:07):
that if I got another dog, theywould bring new things to the
table and they'd have adifferent personality.
But it's all about thatlearning that you're taking away
from it, and that journey oflike it skills you up for the
next dog, right, you know it'shuge now, 300 episodes mad
there's got to be an episode outthere that each person hasn't
listened to or should re-listento, right?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yes, because I'm going to say some of my
favourite episodes.
I've had loads of differentepisodes with lots of different
guests and lots of differentspeakers, but there are some
really, really fun ones.
Yeah, there are some that makeyou want to cry.
Yes, definitely.
There are some that really canlike I can resonate with, and
there are some that actuallythey're super fun.
(17:47):
Yeah, they're super fun.
So I'm going to challengeeveryone who's listening to go
and listen to another.
Okay, and I'm also going to seta second challenge, sam, and
that's for everybody to share itwith one more person, for a
podcast like this, to keep going, to keep growing and to keep
being able to share all over theworld brilliant, brilliant,
brilliant energy for dogs, theirowners.
(18:09):
That is my request.
What?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
can we get everyone to do that?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I think so.
I think so.
I think everybody listeningwill will hear, like, the
enthusiasm for the games and andif they're in a part of games
club already, if they'velistened to the podcast before,
like I think they're going towant to share it, you know,
because it does bring somethingspecial and there's so many
different things in the podcast,like what's your favourite
episode?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What do you think?
I've got lots of differentepisodes that I've really
enjoyed.
Go on.
I'll just say I'll tell youmine.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Go on tell us you did a talk recently, like a chat,
with your friend that doessheepdog training, yeah, and
that was like a whole new worldfor me and I just love listening
because it was something sodifferent you know, and it was
something so removed from whatI've ever done or seen, I was
like, oh my god, it's sointeresting.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think, from a personal perspective, I love
talking to one of my great umfriends and another co-trainer
on on Tokyo actually, and thatwas because it was quite healing
.
Yeah, I'm talking about how somuch of that probably went wrong
and hopefully that other peoplelearn from that.
And then I suppose, from anengagement point of view, I I
always love to chatting to allof our guests because yes,
people like you and dave andlinda I was just about to say
(19:13):
that, yeah, I love listening tolinda because she's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I love listening.
She's so sassy and then I love.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I love chatting to you because our energy is always
great.
I love working with Bill.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Bill is mindset coaching Justin he's going to be
here soon.
Yeah, both of them.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Actually, guys, everyone here should know about
the 8th and 9th of November.
Why?
Because it's my birthday?
No, not because it's mybirthday, send presents.
It is my birthday, sendpresents, so we definitely have
to have a great evening on fun,but prosecco yes let's do that,
but the eighth and ninth we'vegot a really cool event.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
We have got very focused, very, very cool and
it's live.
It's going to be exciting, it'sgoing to be energetic.
There's going to be aridiculous amount of learning
happening.
You all need to lock it intoyour diary.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You do need to look, it's in my diary and there'll be
a limited amount of tickets,but they are free.
Yes, right, and that's theexciting thing.
I have actually not said thatanywhere before, you know.
So there are going to be alimited amount of tickets, but
they are free.
Yes, right, and that's theexciting thing, I've actually
not said that anywhere beforeyet.
No, so there are going to be alimited amount of tickets, but
they are going to be free.
So it's get you in, get yourfriends in, get your mother your
sister, your brother, geteveryone in that door.
So we've limited tickets so thatwe can keep it into our Zoom
rooms.
Yeah, and at the they're goingto be free, so they're going to
(20:20):
be free.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So why wouldn't you?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, basically they can watch it live for free and I
think there's an opportunity tobuy the recording, but you can
watch it live for free, it'sgoing to be fun.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's going to be fun, I'm excited, I'm really excited
, I am really excited.
I love coming down here anyways.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, it's going to be event.
It's not out yet for you tobook into, but it will be as
soon as it does get your space.
Watch this space 4.2 milliondownloads, 300 episodes.
Guys, we're celebrating you.
We're celebrating games-basedlearning.
We're celebrating each other.
We're celebrating all of theenergy that goes into the
podcast.
That was this episode of theSex and the Squirrel podcast.
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yes, challenge is on.
Welcome to the Absolute Dog Sex in a Squirrel
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I'm Lauren Langman.
I'm one of the world's leadingdog trainers and it's my mission
to help owners become theirdog's top priority.
In each episode, you'lldiscover how to gain trust and
communicate with your dog likenever before, creating
unbreakable bonds that make youthe most exciting part of their
world hello and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's the 300th episode.
I'm sam and I am taking overthis podcast.
I'm not really.
I'm not really.
That's mad, isn't?
It?
Isn't that mad like where didthat happen?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
that's crazy it's big , it's big.
And four point I think we're at4.2 million.
That's, that's insane downloads.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, that's cool 4.2 million I love that we've
reached so many people like that.
That's I mean that for me,that's the, that's the crux of
that, like we've got, we'vereached so many people with this
incredible way of training andit's incredible, ah, so good
games based dog trainingreaching 4.2 million download
listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Like that, you know what we've got to do this about
that.
It's not what I'm expectinglike literally just an immense
feeling.
Now let's think about ourjourneys, because I know that
actually, sam part of the reasonthat you came in here as a
300th episode celebratory moment.
What a journey.
It's been a journey for you,right?
(01:27):
How did it start?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So back in the days of DVDs DVDs it could have been
VHS or it could be worse so backin the day of DVDs, when
Facebook was just a baby, Iremember seeing an advert come
up and it was literally like getthis DVD.
And you were showing loads ofgames and stuff like that on on
the video and I was just likethat looks really fun.
And at a time when me and myfirst dog, luna, were at a place
(01:50):
where she was sort of growlingat us because we were trying to
take stuff off us when shesteals and like her walking was
awful, she would just pull likea train, like constantly there
was.
No, we didn't really exist.
We were just the givers of food, the givers of of walks, and it
was getting frustrating and ourrelationship was like
deteriorating.
It was sad and it was sad tosee her sad as well and I just
didn't know what to do.
And we try and taken her tolike a few like puppy classes
(02:11):
and stuff like that and theyjust weren't very nice, they
didn't sit well with me.
And then I saw that ad and I waslike, oh, I mean, it's just,
it's a free dvd, like what canit hurt?
Right, I'll just get it paidthe postage and packaging got
the dvd and absolutely loved it,absolutely loved every second
of it, and then realized thatthere was a games club and I was
like I want to, I want to dothat, I want to be in games club
(02:33):
.
And I remember sending a reallytearful email being like please
, let me in.
Please, I don't know what to do, I need more games, I need to
know how to do this.
And then it opened anyway and Iwas able to get in and now I'm
a trainer and I do filming hereand I've had students, you know,
and yeah, it's completely likeoverturned my life and I've got
(02:55):
another dog.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Which is crazy.
What a different world,considering you think back when
DVDs were everything DVDs andyou picked up that DVD.
You thought games-based dogtraining is for me.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean, I didn't even know what that was, you know, I
didn't even know that it wasgames-based training.
I was just like that looksreally cool and apparently it's
going to help me sort out mywalks.
Brilliant, and it did.
You know, and that's the crazything is like all of the stuff
that we had but all of thestruggles.
Now we've got like a tool beltof stuff to do so it's fun I
(03:26):
think the biggest thing withgames-based dog training is it's
fun.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So let's do quick tips tennis, all right, why we
love games-based dog training.
And I'm gonna say let's goright off with the fun one.
For me it's fun and when you'replaying games it's easy to lose
the seriousness at the momentand I think I definitely know,
for I can be really serious withmy dog training, especially
because I've got a competitiveedge.
So I want to compete with mydogs and that sometimes takes
(03:50):
away the fun element, becauseyou've got pressure, because you
want it to work, you want it tobe good right, and when you've
got pressure you can lose thefun.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So I love the Mary Poppins saying in every sort of
bit of work that needs to bedone, there must be, yeah, an
element of fun.
And then she goes off withspoonful of sugar.
Helps the medicine?
We don't.
They want to hear you singalong.
Come on, sam, come on, uh,green eggs and ham in her camper
van so, but I like you, youlike singing that song, don't?
You.
Yeah, I do like that one, soI'm gonna say it's fun, so
games-based dog training is fun.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
How about you?
What's your?
What's your next?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
my my, my best thing for me is that there is there's
no one fix all and so there areso many different games and
strategies and and things thatyou can use for your tool belt
that if one thing doesn't workfor your dog, then you can use
something else and it worksskills.
So it doesn't necessarily worklike a specific behavior, like a
sit or a down.
It works skills within your dog, it reshapes their brain.
(04:43):
And there are so many differentgames that you can have a lot
of variety and for me that islike huge because I think it
gets boring.
Otherwise, you know I love itand it keeps you going.
It keeps you doing it becauseyou're having, because of the
fun, and it's the variety thatmakes it fun for me, so it keeps
you interested.
You're constantly learning.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
He's a dog interested .
Speaker 1 (05:02):
For me.
The next one is why I playgames and why games-based dog
training works, and why it's our300th episode and why it's
still here and why it lasts.
It goes the test of time.
You can do it anywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
So you can actually play it anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So, whether I'm in an airport, or whether I'm in a
competition, or whether I'm inmy back garden or my living room
or we're watching movies withfriends and I don't want my dog
jumping all over the sofa,there's always a game for that.
Yeah, and I can play itanywhere.
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I love that yeah, I think for me as well it's.
It's long lasting.
So when you get those resultsand you've reshaped your dog's
brain, it is a long lastingchange, like my dogs are not the
same dogs that I had when Istarted and they've taken us,
like on journeys that's whatthey do, isn't it?
But they are the change thatwe've seen through the skills
that we have given them throughthe games-based training.
(05:47):
It's long-lasting, it's there.
You know that they're like oh,that's what I do now, that's
what I am now, that's the dog Iam now.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So that for me is, I think, something that you don't
get in a lot of the training Iagree, and then I suppose I'd
add to that and raise it againwhy games-based training?
I think it's really kind yeah.
I think that I'm verycompassionate towards my dogs.
Through games, I think that Irealize often that maybe it's
not that they are giving us ahard time.
They're actually having areally hard time, yeah.
(06:14):
And so through games you startto be, I would just say, a
better owner yeah, you become amore vigilant owner, you become
a more observant owner, youbecome a more aware of your dog
and their needs owner, and thatfor me is a really special place
to be, actually, that you areyour dog's best advocate and
you're really safeguarding yourdog through games.
(06:35):
And I think games do thatbecause they allow you the
window and the moment toactually really watch what's
happening, because you're justhaving fun right.
So it takes off other layers ofpressure so that when you are
looking you can kind of balanceit a bit more and you can notch
it down or you can notch it upaccordingly, but all within
advocating for your dog.
I love it.
I love it, yeah, I think, oh,but all within advocating for
your dog.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, I think, fitting it howit fits into your life, right?
So a lot of the kind of thingsthat we talk about are things
like ditch the routine and ditchthe bowl and don't do the same
thing in the same way all thetime for your dog, because it
helps your dog, but what thatactually means is it really
makes it easier for you as well.
So you end up finding ways towork your life.
Finding ways to work your life,finding ways to work your dog's
life around you, rather thanthe other way around you know
(07:15):
that's huge, isn't it?
because I think sometimes youknow that I need to get home
because I need to do this with adog.
Well, actually, no, my dog'sused to me just coming home
whenever and doing games withthem whenever and playing and
getting their food whenever, andthere's no set structure into
what they do.
But that works and it and itworks in terms of their training
and it works in terms of themchanging their behaviour as well
.
So it kind of it works for youinadvertently.
(07:38):
It's like a nice little tick, alittle bonus, which I just love
.
I think that's really cool.
You can just do it while youlike boil in a kettle, you can
play it quick, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm going to add to that.
I'm going to say it increasesgames based learning, increases
our flexibility as well as ourdogs.
Yes, and so for me, I am notalways most flexible person, but
I would say that gaze-basedlearning really helps me to be
more flexible.
Yeah, because it says wellactually, for example, I was
driving home today and in myhead I was like I need to get
this, this, this and this andthis done with the dogs that
(08:07):
I've just brought home.
I've just been to achiropractor with my dogs and
myself and they were adjusted,and on the way home I was like
that's not all fitting and I waslike it doesn't matter actually
, because she can have a lightday and she can do that tomorrow
.
Yeah, and then actually I didthat yesterday, so it does all
fit.
I just have to be a bitflexible with it, and it's
really good for us to remindourselves flexibility yeah, but
I would say it really maximizesflexibility for our dogs
(08:29):
games-based learning but it alsoreally maximizes flexibility in
our people.
Yeah, and I would say for me,I'm always a better person where
I can be more flexible, and Ithink that for all of us,
flexibility is often, especiallyas you get older.
Look at us, two oldies, we'renot old.
But, especially as we age.
I'm 20.
Didn't have any big birthdaysthis year.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And especially as we get older.
I think it's really importantthat we actually recognise that
flexibility doesn't increase asa muscle.
No, flexibility is one of thosethings that we get less and
less and less flexible.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Do it less rather than more, so I think that
games-based learning increasesflexibility over to you green,
yes, and I think for me, goingback on to kind of on the back
of it, being flexible, Iactually think as well.
What I really like is it's notthis huge amount of time that
you have to dedicate to it.
And I know that sounds like yousort of go, like that sounds a
little bit lazy, but actually,yeah, you know, I don't have
loads of time in my day to dolike hours and hours of training
for my dog and what you do isyou chunk it down into loads of
(09:24):
tiny little segments throughoutthe day.
And that because going to atraining class like once a week
for an hour, you know and thenhaving to go home and do all the
training as well, that isthat's taxing and that takes up
a lot.
It's a lot of commitment.
But actually being able to justlike boil a kettle and play a
few games or sit down and dolike a boundary game you know, a
bed game or you can just playthem if you're going on a walk
(09:46):
and you just fit it in where youneed to fit it in, but they're
really short segments and thatfor me is really important
because I don't think,especially knowing my
personality and knowing like alack of consistency and forget,
just like a terrible, forgetfulmemory, being able to just be
like I'm boiling the kettle oh,I should.
I'll grab a handful of food andplay a quick game while I'm
doing this.
You know it really helps.
(10:07):
It's a, it's a, it's a big wayof me, one of the reasons I love
this way it enables it's yeah,it's just yeah, it's just so
easy to work your life around it.
You know it doesn't become allencompassing, which also takes
the pressure off.
It completely takes thepressure off and you're not
feeling like, oh, I've got to goand train the dog, you love it,
because you're like, oh yeah,I've just played a really cool
quick game, I've done a bit oftraining for the day.
(10:28):
Well, it's very much, yeah,done smashing it, crushing it, I
think.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Adding to that, I think it's a really big one for
me on a day-to-day basis withgames-based learning, most
people lack in their lives fun,achievement, feeling like
they're winning and successful,good mental space, good mental
capacity, feeling like they're awinner.
I think games-based learningdoes all of that, yeah, and I
think it's very contagious andwhat I'm going to say to
(10:55):
everybody who's listening pleaseshare it with a friend oh yes,
whether it's sharing the podcastwith a friend, or whether it's
sharing the some of the freeresources with a friend.
There'll be um links to themaround this podcast somewhere.
Whatever it is, give theopportunity of sharing.
Yeah right, sharing is sharingis caring.
Sharing is caring.
Have you shared it with anyone?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
let's say oh I'm, I'm not gonna lie.
I'm always like have you heardof games?
You've got a dog.
Have you heard of games?
Hey, how about this hustling?
Let me, let me teach yousomething, and it's not because
I'm like I want to bring them tothe, to business, do you know?
I mean like to answer to what wedo, it's because I'm so
freaking passionate, passionateabout it that I I just want to
like share it for the joy andfor the, for the, the wins that
(11:37):
you get with your dog, ofeverything we've just talked
about.
Really, because for me it's hugeyeah, and I think my next one
would be as well actually seeingthe change in students that
I've worked with as well,because that has been like
magical, and there's somethingreally special about seeing
someone come to you in in in astate of of sadness and worry
(11:57):
about what they might have to dowith their dog.
You know anxiety, yeah, andbeing able to help them find
ways to transform that and lookto the future of what they've
got with their dog and beingable to see their dog's
transformation and the joy thatthat brings to them has been
something so, so, so specialthat you know, being with with
absolute dogs has has like givenme, which is really cool, so
(12:17):
that's part of my journey, thatis, you know, that's been very,
very special to me and if Ithink about my journey with
poppy, for example, poppy wasreally the reason that we have
naughty but nice.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So poppy was was original naughty but nice dog
and those of you that don't know, poppy poppy was very, very,
very chase driven.
Border collie, really high chasedriven yeah but actually when I
think about poppy, she was nodifferent to my next border
collie, easy, who actually wasvery, very similar but
differently brought up.
Yeah, and then earlier I wasjust talking to my trainer here
one of the trainers that worksfull-time and with the team here
(12:46):
and she said I just took outthat young collie and she legged
it from the garden to chase thechicken and I'm like that's
exactly the same dog, isn't it?
what lesson we're being able tobe learning again exactly the
same type and stamp.
It's what you do with it now,and so what we do with that is
we actually put her in a gardenthat she cannot see and escape
out of.
Yeah, and we train her in thatspace first and then we
(13:08):
gradually grow it and make thatworld bigger, but what we don't
do is give her the opportunityto go wrong.
Yeah, at the moment she can getthrough the gap in the fence
and she is going to take theopportunity to go wrong.
Go find the sheep or go find achicken or go find a cat or go
find a piece of fox pooterrolling, whatever it is that
dog's taking the opportunity.
And I suppose for me, thejourney is that often the dogs
that we we have, they're justnot equipped for the spaces that
(13:30):
we're putting them in.
And we're putting them inspaces or worlds or towns or
cities or sort of countryside orsheep or cattle or whatever
else that they're just notequipped for.
And whilst they're not equippedfor that, then we need to
consider whether actually that'sthe right space for them right
now, or could we like make theirworld a little bit smaller?
Build the games.
Build and grow the games.
Build and grow the conceptsthat we're teaching and then
(13:52):
gradually bring them back intothose spaces.
And that's what what I thinkgames do.
Yeah, they allow you to teachthe concept away from the
problem and then they allow youto put it back together again
and voila, it's there.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, it's really lovely it's a really lovely
experience it just takes thestress off you as well, doesn't
it?
Because, like, nobody wants tobe in that problem situation.
It's not fun for the dog, it'snot fun for you, it's just, it's
just all out stressful andyou're getting frustrated and
it's not fun for the dog andit's not fun for you, it's just
all out stressful and you'regetting frustrated and it
damages your relationship withyour dog.
So, just the ability toactually be like okay with going
I don't need to put them inthat situation right now and
(14:23):
knowing that the solutions thatyou've got are going to change
that, yeah, that is like a hugeone really, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Big win.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Absolutely huge one.
I think, looking at like myjourney with my dogs, you have
like an idea of what your dogdream looks like and you've got
a picturesque version of youknow like wonderful walks on the
beach and your dog's justlovingly looking up at you.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's like at the pub and the dog's just chilling and
you're having your lunch andyour dog's eating ploughmans and
your dog's just sat there.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Occasionally sneaking a bit of cheese.
Yeah, they look at you lovingly,they wag at a human that comes
nearby, but they're notinterested because they love you
and they're still going to beaccepting of a stroke, but
ultimately they're very loyal toyou yeah, and a dog comes past
and they have a perfect likeinteraction with them, they have
a bit of a play, but then theytrot off with you, so you have
all these into the sunsetholding hand and paw, you know.
(15:15):
So you've got this vision rightand it's perfection.
And then you get a dog and andI've, you know in case, I've got
a puppy.
And this puppy is like a littledevil, you know, and she's
really lovely, she's reallysweet, but she's got dog
tendencies and it's just normaldog behavior.
But you're like, what do I dowith this?
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I remember a puppy owner brought two Jet Russell
Terriers to me for a puppy classa long time ago and she sat
them on the lap and everyone wasgoing around and I said to
everyone yeah, they're bred forchasing and working sheep.
And another one said, yeah,mine's bred as a guide dog.
And another one we went roundto and, yeah, it was like a lap
dog, a handbag dog, like a.
Pomeranian, very, very sweetlittle dog, and I came to the
(15:55):
Jack Russell Terrier lady andshe said that they were always
bred to be companions and I waslike how do I say to her these
actually are murderers.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You actually have two murderers on your lap, because
they're bred to rat, they'rebred to kill, they're bred to
snap a neck and off they go.
They're not bred to be lap dogs.
They do not give up.
When she said they were lapdogs, I was like these are not
lap dogs.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
How do you tell her she's moved?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
in a murderer.
She's moved in, in fact, notone, but two.
They've moved into her house,in the house.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I've, and it is that thing, isn't it that actually,
like you just said, you moved inthis puppy?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
yeah, I didn't have a clue, but actually you weren't
necessarily skilled up enough tohelp educate her and what she
needed, no, and so we made lotsof mistakes, which is, you know,
which is normal and that's howyou learn right.
And then going through gamesclub and learning all of these
new techniques and learning her,and also like starting to look
at other dogs when we're out andabout and seeing how their
behavior is and thinking, oh, Iwould do this for that.
(16:43):
And that's kind of how I becamea trainer, I think, because I
was always like what would I dofor that?
And then eventually we got oursecond dog and then that came
with a whole new host ofproblems and it was learning
again all over and completelydifferent problems to my first
dog, you know.
And again you think you've gotthe skills.
Then you're like, yeah, well,I've done it with this dog,
sorted it, smashed it, and thenshe comes in and she's like, no,
no, no, I'm going to teach yousomething entirely new.
But now I feel like I'm very,very skilled up and I I'm sure
(17:07):
that if I got another dog, theywould bring new things to the
table and they'd have adifferent personality.
But it's all about thatlearning that you're taking away
from it, and that journey oflike it skills you up for the
next dog, right, you know it'shuge now, 300 episodes mad
there's got to be an episode outthere that each person hasn't
listened to or should re-listento, right?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yes, because I'm going to say some of my
favourite episodes.
I've had loads of differentepisodes with lots of different
guests and lots of differentspeakers, but there are some
really, really fun ones.
Yeah, there are some that makeyou want to cry.
Yes, definitely.
There are some that really canlike I can resonate with, and
there are some that actuallythey're super fun.
(17:47):
Yeah, they're super fun.
So I'm going to challengeeveryone who's listening to go
and listen to another.
Okay, and I'm also going to seta second challenge, sam, and
that's for everybody to share itwith one more person, for a
podcast like this, to keep going, to keep growing and to keep
being able to share all over theworld brilliant, brilliant,
brilliant energy for dogs, theirowners.
(18:09):
That is my request.
What?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
do you think?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
can we get everyone to do that?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I think so.
I think so.
I think everybody listeningwill will hear, like, the
enthusiasm for the games and andif they're in a part of games
club already, if they'velistened to the podcast before,
like I think they're going towant to share it, you know,
because it does bring somethingspecial and there's so many
different things in the podcast,like what's your favourite
episode?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What do you think?
I've got lots of differentepisodes that I've really
enjoyed.
Go on.
I'll just say I'll tell youmine.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Go on tell us you did a talk recently, like a chat,
with your friend that doessheepdog training, yeah, and
that was like a whole new worldfor me and I just love listening
because it was something sodifferent you know, and it was
something so removed from whatI've ever done or seen, I was
like, oh my god, it's sointeresting.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think, from a personal perspective, I love
talking to one of my great umfriends and another co-trainer
on on Tokyo actually, and thatwas because it was quite healing
.
Yeah, I'm talking about how somuch of that probably went wrong
and hopefully that other peoplelearn from that.
And then I suppose, from anengagement point of view, I I
always love to chatting to allof our guests because yes,
people like you and dave andlinda I was just about to say
(19:13):
that, yeah, I love listening tolinda because she's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I love listening.
She's so sassy and then I love.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I love chatting to you because our energy is always
great.
I love working with Bill.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Bill is mindset coaching Justin he's going to be
here soon.
Yeah, both of them.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Actually, guys, everyone here should know about
the 8th and 9th of November.
Why?
Because it's my birthday?
No, not because it's mybirthday, send presents.
It is my birthday, sendpresents, so we definitely have
to have a great evening on fun,but prosecco yes let's do that,
but the eighth and ninth we'vegot a really cool event.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
We have got very focused, very, very cool and
it's live.
It's going to be exciting, it'sgoing to be energetic.
There's going to be aridiculous amount of learning
happening.
You all need to lock it intoyour diary.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You do need to look, it's in my diary and there'll be
a limited amount of tickets,but they are free.
Yes, right, and that's theexciting thing.
I have actually not said thatanywhere before, you know.
So there are going to be alimited amount of tickets, but
they are free.
Yes, right, and that's theexciting thing, I've actually
not said that anywhere beforeyet.
No, so there are going to be alimited amount of tickets, but
they are going to be free.
So it's get you in, get yourfriends in, get your mother your
sister, your brother, geteveryone in that door.
So we've limited tickets so thatwe can keep it into our Zoom
rooms.
Yeah, and at the they're goingto be free, so they're going to
(20:20):
be free.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So why wouldn't you?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, basically they can watch it live for free and I
think there's an opportunity tobuy the recording, but you can
watch it live for free, it'sgoing to be fun.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's going to be fun, I'm excited, I'm really excited
, I am really excited.
I love coming down here anyways.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, it's going to be event.
It's not out yet for you tobook into, but it will be as
soon as it does get your space.
Watch this space 4.2 milliondownloads, 300 episodes.
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We're celebrating games-basedlearning.
We're celebrating each other.
We're celebrating all of theenergy that goes into the
podcast.
That was this episode of theSex and the Squirrel podcast.
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