May 20, 2025 • 27 mins
A tiny new addition is about to make a big impact on Linda's home - and perhaps even the prestigious rings of Crufts! In this delightful conversation, Linda reveals her plans for integrating Bobble, her new toy poodle puppy, into her existing multi-dog household.
From thoughtful preparation to training philosophy, Linda shares practical wisdom that challenges conventional thinking about puppy raising. "Every piece of food is going to come from either enrichment or from me," she explains, highlighting how this foundation creates opportunities for bonding and learning from day one. Her approach combines structure with adventure, as Bobble will immediately join her on road trips, training days, and everyday adventures.
The conversation takes a serious turn when discussing small dog safety in multi-dog households, with both hosts sharing sobering stories of preventable tragedies. "I just don't leave my dogs," Linda admits, explaining her careful management system that prioritizes safety without sacrificing socialization. This balanced approach extends to her vaccination philosophy as well - she'll have Bobble exploring the world thoughtfully before completing his full vaccination course.
Perhaps most refreshing is Linda's commitment to raising a confident small dog rather than a "handbag puppy." As she explains, "The thing I try to coach people with small dogs not to do is pick them up... They need to be able to behave like a dog, work like a dog, have the confidence of a dog on the floor."
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to the Absolute Dog Sex in a Squirrel
podcast.
I'm Lauren Langman.
I'm one of the world's leadingdog trainers and it's my mission
to help owners become theirdog's top priority.
In each episode, you'lldiscover how to gain trust and
communicate with your dog likenever before, creating
unbreakable bonds that make youthe most exciting part of their
world.
Oh, my goodness, Linda'sgetting a new puppy.
(00:31):
Linda is getting a poodle puppy.
Linda, tell us about your newadventures.
Okay, so for a long while.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I've been teaching people with poodles and I always
sit on the side and go oh I, Ilove them.
They're such idiots and they'reclowns.
And and I was with one who hastoy poodles, because I'm of an
age I couldn't manage a standard.
They're too big for me now.
So somebody I know has toypoodles and he said, oh, you
(01:05):
should get one, you should getone.
I mean no, no, they're not mydog and he's, I said in any way,
I'd never get a toy poodle toticket championship of Egypt.
And he said you would, linda,you'd get one to ticket.
And it was like, okay,challenge accepted, I will get a
(01:28):
toy poodle because I'm sort ofin the middle of am I going to
get another border collie?
And I'm not sure, and it'sprobably a bit too soon for a
border collie and it's notplanned.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So let's have a toy poodle and see how we go and
tell me are you getting I takeit a little boy or a little girl
, and what is his name?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
he hasn't got a name yet other than he's sort of
called bobble.
I love it which can beshortened to bob of the poodle,
that's if it suits him.
When we get it, because I'mvery much into, let's get the
puppy and see what name suitsthem.
But his fantasy name, the onethat I've had in my head for the
(02:15):
poodle, I'm getting is Bobble.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So Bobble's coming home soon.
I think it's a really greattopic for our podcast, for all
of our listeners, everybody whois here listening Sex and
Squirrel podcast.
You guys get to hear it firstfrom lovely linda who is getting
her new puppy.
What are you thinking for yourearly planning stages?
And I love that we've gotanother dog on the road to
crufts, because we've not onlygot um our plans in place
(02:39):
already, which I know we'regoing to share with everybody
across the podcast.
Where we're planning to go toCrufts Obedience, that's Linda
and her lovely, lovely Ulla, andwe've got lots and lots of
goals and targets set.
But we've also got Bobble, whois on his way.
He's arriving very, very soon.
What are you thinking?
What are your first few days athome?
How does it look?
How does it go?
What's the plan?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And talk me through it, and I'm very happy to input
any stage if you need a hand.
Okay, so plan is we have to getthe house ready.
So we're already a gatedcommunity in my house.
We have full out dog gates allover the place, so I don't need
to put up baby gates or anythinglike that.
I do need to go into the loftand get the puppy pens down.
He won't need as big a puppypen as a built border collie,
but there'll be a pen.
(03:26):
We live upstairs in this houseso we have a sort of living
space upstairs and then officeis downstairs.
So he'll have a pen upstairsand he'll have a pen down here
in this office, but a very smallone as he's only a toy poodle.
I've ordered a pidddle mat forhim, because house training for
(03:47):
us in an upside down house isagain a challenge.
So I've I've got around um inthe last four dogs I think to
using um a grass in a, in a in atray.
But I use a product which iscalled Piddler Patch.
But you could just use a catlitter tray with a piece of turf
(04:09):
in it or some astroturf in itor something like that.
So I just get them used to.
There's a place with grasswhere they go to toilet, so
that's been ordered.
I've ordered some raw meat forhim because all my dogs have
been raw, so that's been ordered.
(04:30):
So puppy pens will go up, all myenrichment toys will come out
for puppies, because obviouslyhe's going to be tiny so he'll
need a little lick mat and alittle treat dispenser, toy,
things like that.
So the food's sorted, the bedsare sorted.
I've got plenty of beds.
So on the day which is on, so Ihave to go double-handed when I
(04:51):
pick up a puppy, because Idon't put them in a crate,
because I have a van with dogcrates in, I don't put them in
the crate in the back.
When they come home they comehome in the front with me
holding them and hubby drives.
So I'll have a very small puppycrate in the front and I'll be
(05:13):
with him, because he's inSwansea so that's about a five
hour drive.
So for five hours he'll be withme and then when he gets home
he will sleep in a crate next tomy bed.
So I work on that bond and thatsafety for a pup right from the
(05:33):
beginning.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I was just thinking one thing, linda.
I don't know if you've thoughtabout this or not.
I'm sure you have because youthink of everything.
You're a great planner but onething I was really shocked at
when I had my first small puppyand my first Cocker Spaniel was
how much smaller everything isin terms of the fact because I
love what you said it's a smallcrate crate and a small this.
They can get through every barI've got and I didn't think
about this because all of mypuppy pens and all of my bars
(05:56):
they just walked through and I'dbe like, oh, I didn't think
about that, and it's reallyfunny, as they strutted through
the puppy pen or they struttedthrough where I could leave my
others in certain places, likeI've got a little like picket
fence in the garden, the Cockpicket fence in the garden the
Cocker Spaniel would just hopthrough the gap and I'd be like,
oh, that wasn't my plan, uh, soyeah, it was an interesting one
(06:17):
.
It was definitely aninteresting one.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's got a balcony upstairs, he'll, he'll go
straight through the bars of thebalcony if I'm not careful yes,
those kind of things to plan onbecause he's going to be tiny
and we're talking probablybetween, I don't know, one and
three kilos.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I would imagine maybe a little bit on the I.
I mean, I've never had a, a,poodle, um, but I would imagine
within that window.
And so how about things likecollars and leads and harnesses?
What are your, what are yourthoughts on things?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
it's going to be a visit to pets at home she's
visiting, and does he have acolor?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
have you got a color in mind for him?
Is he blue?
He's silver, silver.
No, I meant as in, what's hiscolour of his leading collar?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh, I don't know, I don't know.
Well, turquoise probably.
I like sort of turquoise andblue and things like that on the
collies Silk, sort of an earlycolour.
So yes, he'll be blue probably.
But but it'll be a little busyto pets at home for early stages
.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
How exciting.
So what are your first gameslooking like?
What are you going to do forthe first things that you do
with his food or do with hisgames or do with his toy, like?
How is that going to work on a?
Um?
Early stages of games andgames-based learning?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
lovely, linda so first couple of weeks every
piece of food is going to getwill either be enrichment or it
will be from me, so it'll be inall sorts of fun games like
chasing a bit of food.
Obviously, with tiny pups,their eyes don't work very well
and it's where, when I'm workingwith people who've just got
their puppy, you have to explainthat your, your food bowling
(07:54):
skills have to be very good withthe puppy because they don't
see the piece of food go ifyou're too quick.
So you have to just get themused to getting their eye in and
doing a little bit of followand I start behaviors straight
away.
I mean he's going to be 10weeks when I pick him up, so
he'll be straight into learningto sit, go down, walk back, nose
(08:17):
, touch all of those littlebehaviours while using his food.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I love it, I love hearing it, I love knowing it.
I've got a lovely friend.
She's called Deb.
You've met her and she is goingto be doing exactly the same
with Border Collie Puppy.
So she's got a new BorderCollie Puppy and I love that.
You're already on to.
From the get go, every piece offood is either from enrichment
(08:44):
or from me, and personally mybalance is sometimes more one
than the other, depending on thedog.
So sometimes with cockers I'llactually give more enrichment
because they're so into me thatI actually need to turn them
like into something else,because if not I could get in
trouble with separation anxietyand struggles like that.
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But yeah, with the cockers Imight go into doing a bit more
of that, linda, or with myborder collies, because they're
often very, very into my otherdogs and they want to chase the
movement and watch the movementand look at the movement and and
be absorbed by the movement.
(09:25):
I actually do most of it withme if I can.
But obviously I use myenrichment to babysit, so my
enrichment allows me a bit ofbabysitting.
Eat that mat while I quicklywash my hair, or, um, lick on
that kong for a minute while Iquickly try and answer the door
and get them visitors in andsort the house or whatever else.
I'm trying to do so, or I'mgoing to hoover.
I mean it'd be a chance to be afine thing.
(09:46):
But you know what those typesof scenarios and I think I'm not
shocked.
You looked very shocked get heroff the camera, don't let her
be seen.
Um, but yeah, it really makesme um insanely happy to hear
that from you, that you're,you're straight away.
That is exactly how you feeltoo.
Now, how about play, linda?
Because I'm really a massive,massive, fundamental believer in
(10:09):
dogs work better when they playand you get more motivation
when you play.
And you saw recently when wewere training Ulla together, we
trained a lot together and Iused play a lot with you,
especially to overcome anyanxieties or struggles.
I use play a lot.
So I use play to like jack thearousal and to really allow the
dog to become moreenvironmentally established.
When the environment can betough and I know when we're
(10:39):
prepping a dog for crufts.
And I'm going to say this rightnow we don't want no poodly
poodle, we want like a wham.
Bam, I'm bobble, thank you outof my way.
We need, we need this dog superconfident.
We need him super present.
We need to really safeguard hisconfidence, but also not like
baby him, if that makes sense.
So you need to not over woollyjumper them and over.
I'm going to put like clotheson.
You be my handbag dog.
And at the same time we alsowant to safeguard his confidence
because we don't need an Ullaor a Sensi wiping him or
(11:01):
knocking him out and they'll dothat, sometimes just running
through the hallway, but theydon't even mean to do it.
Like Blink's been like bowledover by a dog Tokyo early on,
just from like walking throughthe same space together.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It on um, just from like walking through the same
space together.
It's not any dog had any badintention, so, yeah, how does
that look for you?
Play?
So, play um.
All of the poodles that I teachhave the attention span of a
gnat on it off it on it, off it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I love that.
You thought to yourselfwouldn't this be a great breed
to go and train?
So all of the poodles I trainhave the attention span of a
gnat.
So I thought to myself I'mgoing to do that.
I love your wisdom.
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I love a challenge so I will be establishing a huge
amount of interaction with meplay, focus, focus and attention
, um, everything about centeringtheir an orientation around me
so that they don't.
The ones I've trained tend tocheck out very quickly.
(12:06):
You know they'll noticesomething worse than all the
behind.
They'll notice something andtheir attention will go.
So, yeah, and in terms ofconfidence, the thing that I try
to coach people with small dogsnot to do is pick them up, is
get them to meet the world fromthe floor.
(12:29):
They are a dog.
They need to be able not not tooverface them, but they need to
be able to behave like a dog,work like a dog, have the
confidence of a dog on the floornot being carried around by me
because it's so easy.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I that is one of the biggies is.
It's so easy because I knowoften when I'm running up and
down stairs and things like that, I just grab skittle under my
arm because they're so easy tograb.
So I definitely fall into thatsmall dog owner category where I
scoop them up way too often.
But it is easy and sometimes itkeeps them safeguarded.
But I agree there are placeswhen it doesn't need to happen.
Now, thinking on this, linda, Iknow we've got our 10 days to
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(13:29):
But, linda, what would be someof your um sort of early stage
um tips in terms of when youintroduce your dogs or how that
goes?
Because I know for sure thatI'm never in a rush to introduce
my dogs, but I think it's goodfor people to hear it from from
different people, and to thepoint that I don't think tokyo
met venture until he was aboutseven months, like not properly.
(13:52):
I mean, I would maybe go outand about on a walk or I'd maybe
, but I didn't put them head tohead in the house, where I know
it could be potentially aproblem, and I would say even
more so with a big dog and alittle dog coming into the house
.
I think that little dog, Ithink we really forget.
There's a very horrible storythat when I was sort of early on
in my dog training career, anacquaintance of mine, she had
(14:15):
two Jack Russell Terriers andher nan had a Chihuahua and they
left the dogs together and thatChihuahua died like it died
People.
They forget we're dealing withanimals.
These aren't animals.
And when you're talking about atoy poodle, a papillon, a very,
very small breed, I also know ofa papillon that was killed at a
(14:37):
big festival that we run inagility Kennel Club Festival.
It's called, not we when I sayit, it's the Kennel Club run it
and we go to that festival andthat papillon died again at the
jaws of another dog and thisisn't like a nasty, aggressive
beast, this is a dog who'sbitten and gone, and at the same
time it's been in the wrongsituation and no one's managed
the environment correctly.
(14:57):
And so, for me, those twoterriers should never have been
left with that chihuahua.
That was absolutelyirresponsible and of course
everyone has that heartfelt.
We hate that feeling forsomeone.
I mean, nobody wants to be inthat position.
But come on, guys, use yoursense, like where's your sense.
And so, for me, if this was mypoodle, I'm not in a hurry to
leave these dogs unsupervised.
(15:18):
I'm not in a hurry to umintroduce these dogs head-on in
confrontational spaces orsituations.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But equally, every train is different and I'm
really open to hearing how youmight do it well, I already
don't leave my dogs, so theperson on the sofa behind me
today, um, she's never leftunsupervised with my others.
The only dog that's left out inthe house unsupervised for free
is Ping, who's the eldest.
The other two girls go incrates if I'm not present, um,
(15:50):
or you know, they might lie on asofa or something like that, um
, with the puppy.
He would probably be six ornine months, even more.
I might never be left alonewith the others milling about.
I mean, I just don't do itbecause you, you know, you've
only got to have somebody cometo the door and then bark and
(16:11):
get aroused and there'd be anaccident, even if it's one gets
trodden on.
I just don't, I don't let ithappen, I don't go there.
I know we have this ideal of it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The dog's house is their house and they should have
a free roam a bit and they gowhere they like, and I I think
they're better off just beingsafe and I really love that you
have that perspective in amulti-dog household and I think
it's worth saying here yourhousehold, like my household,
we've got some dogs who arereally level and cool with life,
but actually we've got somenaughty but nice dogs and my
(16:43):
naughty but nice dog thismorning and venture um, oh, I
mean some days I think you're alittle witch like she's got a
real edge, like she's got realedge, and you probably shouldn't
say that on a podcast.
But hey, here we go, let's bereal.
And she, she really did justsnipe over a vegetable.
So I chucked a few vegetablesin the garden and I thought
they're so low value I didn'treally think much of them, but
(17:05):
she's so resourcey at times thateven the vegetable in the
garden that she didn't want wasenough for her to snipe at.
And so it's just beingconstantly mindful when you've
got multi dogs.
I've got 10 dogs and I knowthat you're also in a multi dog
household and I think you'vejust always got to be mindful
and I'd much prefer to be safethan sorry.
And, like I said, the two sorry, the two Jack Russell's and the
(17:26):
Chihuahua uh, the papillon atthe big kennel club event, like
those, for me are stark warnings, and the other one I had as a
youngster was I was walking inthe park and two dogs went head
on head and one died.
They just ran.
It was just a, it was instant,and I've never experienced
things like that, linda, and yetthose were life-changing
another life-changing one for meand it was very emotional.
(17:48):
Another life-changing one for meis I taught a lovely, lovely
student for a good number ofyears beautiful, beautiful dog,
one of my favorite dogs I taught.
In fact, she got me really evenmore in love with Border
Collies than I already am andwas, and she left her with a
pig's ear and she chokedthree-year-old dog.
She choked and and I justremember being so utterly I just
(18:11):
couldn't believe it.
I was gobsmacked.
It was like losing a part ofbecause I taught her since she
was eight weeks old.
I taught her since she was ababy.
I loved this dog and this dogwas really talented and I loved
working with her and I lovedtraining with her and she was
just a great little dog and Ijust remember being super
horrified at the how easily thatcould happen.
So so, yeah, supervision,massive dogs like him wouldn't
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be left with chews that arepotentially going to do things
like that, like there's lots tothink about, isn't there, I
think, people.
What I'd love to do is preventthese things from happening to
other people, because we knowthat these, these are things,
sadly, that can happen, and Ithink it's important that we we
maybe safeguard any of those.
What do you?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
think absolutely.
But then again, I don't wrapthem in cotton wool, so agreed.
So this pup will be in the vanfrom day one.
Um, they travel on the seatnext to me in a crate so that I
can get them used to the idea oftravelling, because he'll be
out and about every day.
He'll be going to anywhere I go.
(19:13):
He'll be exposed to, you know,the supermarket, car park, the
train station, bobble, on a roadtrip.
That's right, absolutely.
So I don't fuss about whetherthey're inoculated or not.
I mean, I don't let them gosniffing around in places where
(19:34):
there's been 101 dogs, but outin the middle of the country he
will be on the ground.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I love.
I have to say really quickly,linda, I love this because only
an hour ago I was chatting awayto Dave Dave, you and I know
very, very well one of ourregular podcasters and a
brilliant, brilliant trainer insearch dogs and he said I just
want to be a little bitcontroversial.
And I was like, oh god, what'she gonna say?
Because you're always awarewhen you're filming a podcast or
you're recording or filmingsomething that you're just like,
(20:04):
what's he gonna say?
Is it needing to be edited out?
And he, he said the thing iswith puppies, with puppies, with
puppies can't say it the way ofsaying puppies, but with puppy.
He said I will get them outafter their first vaccination.
And he said I'm not waiting forthe second.
And I said, right, I'm going tobe even more controversial and
I'm going to say I don't careabout any vaccination versus
getting them out.
(20:25):
But similar to you, I, butsimilar to you, I'm not going to
throw them down in the middleof the Birmingham city centre.
Dog poo, right, that is left intoo many different places and
I'm sure it's left in lots ofother city centres too, not just
Birmingham.
We were talking Birminghambecause that's where Dave lives.
However, when you're inOakhampton and it's so rural, no
, I'm not going to drop them inlike rat infested water, but I'm
(20:46):
also going to avoid lepto.
But I'm also and I'm not goingto take them to an area that I
know is known to have parvo,because there are several places
in the country that are knownto have parvo and recently it
was a dog show and it was knownto be in that area.
You're a bit more cautious, forsure.
At the same time, there's a,there's a risk and a balance and
a management space to be had.
That you're sort of fine tuning, that aren't you?
(21:06):
You with your socializationrisks.
So I love what you say and haveto just bring it up there
because you and dave and Ialigned you're on the same page.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
None of this.
Oh, he's got to be locked in alittle box until he's had all of
his infodoculations.
I just don't do it.
I don't make a fuss about it atall.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So he'll be out and about running, so he'll be on
your road trips with you.
What type of road trips are yougoing to take him on?
Because I, I really love thisand this is exactly how I do it
we do life, we just do life, sowe just do life, and we keep
going and we do life togetheryeah, so he'll go to the shops.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
He'll go to my training days, um.
He'll probably have to bebabysat by lots of cooing women
um on my training days, so he'llget used to being toileted by
people he doesn't.
He's never met, um, he willjust be exposed to my life and
and he'll get on with itbasically, and then he'll get
trained.
Whenever I've got spare moment,and what about hubby?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
how does he fit into all of this?
Because he's a good man, isn'the your husband?
He's a good man.
I think he needs a shout out ofhis own here.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He's just supportive of everything I do around dogs,
and so there's never anyquestion if I say we're getting
a puppy, or I say what do youthink about this dog?
Or whatever he goes, yeah, yeah, let's go for it.
So, um, he, he follows therules.
He's pretty good at not undoingall my training, because he's
(22:37):
certainly been the recipient ofdon't use that word, that's the
competitive cue or something.
So he, he knows what not to sayand he knows what to say and he
, he's very, very good with them.
So if I'm going away for a youknow, I don't know if I was
going somewhere and I thoughtthat wasn't suitable for the pup
(22:58):
to go I'd be quite happy if hewould be left looking after the
pup.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Um, so, yeah, he's, um, he's a good man I also love
that you say puppies, straightaway in the van and just rock
and roll.
And I'm going to give you acouple of van stories while
we're here, and one of mine isthat my cat, as soon as I got
her, went in the van.
So Sadie, the cat, straight inthe van with the dogs, obviously
her own crate, and I put hernext to a spaniel because I know
the spaniels wouldn't like spatat her, which the collies
(23:24):
probably would um, but I lovethat.
I was just like rock and roll,get in the van.
So there was no, there was nothought of um, this isn't for
you, uh, for me, whatever, andSadie is my cat, not my, my dog,
um.
And the second one um for me iswhen I'm in the van, I have to
be a little bit careful aboutwho I put them next to, because
Venture, even three bars, can bequite snipey and she can be
(23:45):
sharp, and so as much as oncemine do progress to being in the
back with the other dogs andsometimes I can't put them on a
front seat because I've got mattand eliza and I and it's only a
three-seater um.
And so again, just for I'm sureyou're very, very well aware of
this.
But equally for our listeners,if mine are in the vehicle
against another dog or nearanother dog, I have to check
which dog so wild, is going tobe sweet and nice.
(24:07):
She's going to be like thistokyo would have been licking
them through the bars and tryingto be their best uncle tokyo,
whereas venture would be snipingand trying to pierce their lip
and give them an early earpiercing.
And so you've got to be mindfulof who you put them next to.
And that doesn't make venture aterrible dog.
She's just a sharp, naughty butnice dog, whereas um tokyo had
gorgeous manners.
Equally, um tokyo couldsometimes be a bit much and
(24:29):
would lick their head until theyprobably didn't want to be
licked.
So you've kind of got to knowwhen they, when each dog is
appropriate or not.
And I think it's just mindfulagain, when you've got multi
dogs, just to know these things.
And I didn't realize that a dogcan still go between bars and
they really can like venturesreally tried to to pierce
through bars.
So if you've got a dog whoreally doesn't like a puppy,
just don't put them in thatsituation, because even the
(24:51):
snarling and the growling andthe sniping and the those things
all still to still carrythrough right, it will.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's why I've always had solid crates, so I
don't have crates with barsbetween.
Yeah, but with the pup I tendto have them in a, as I say, in
a small puppy crate on the frontseat and so I can reassure them
, and then I transfer that tothe back, and then gradually,
and then they and this one'sgoing to be a particularly small
crate, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
it's just going to be .
I want you to tell me what.
I want you to tell me whatweight he is when you get him.
Okay, so you're going to dayone, you're going to weigh him
for me.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I want, in fact, I want a weight and a height okay,
okay, because I was talking, Iwas actually teaching the people
with the food was yesterday and, um, they said you don't, you
know, it's going to be reallysmall, don't you?
And I said, well, how smallthen.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And they went, oh, and they sort of held their
hands up, a bit like this and Iwent oh my god, you will be
shocked, like I've had lots ofsmall dogs, but I'm always
shocked.
I'm always like, oh my god,you're so tiny, so I cannot wait
, linda.
So everyone's excited for you,everyone's rooting for you,
everyone cannot wait to seebobble and bobble on his crufts
journey all the way tochampionship.
(26:01):
Uh, are you going to share morewith us?
Are you game?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I will, I will.
I will keep you updated on howhe does.
I will do my best to actuallylog some of his training because
that would be people wouldprobably like to see that.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Beautiful the adventures of Bobble.
They are about to open.
So, guys, that was this episodeof the Sexiest Girl podcast.
Thank you, Linda, for joiningus.
As always, we can't wait tohear more about Bobble, and I'll
see you all next week.
And remember, guys, stay sexy.
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Oh, my goodness, Linda'sgetting a new puppy.
(00:31):
Linda is getting a poodle puppy.
Linda, tell us about your newadventures.
Okay, so for a long while.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I've been teaching people with poodles and I always
sit on the side and go oh I, Ilove them.
They're such idiots and they'reclowns.
And and I was with one who hastoy poodles, because I'm of an
age I couldn't manage a standard.
They're too big for me now.
So somebody I know has toypoodles and he said, oh, you
(01:05):
should get one, you should getone.
I mean no, no, they're not mydog and he's, I said in any way,
I'd never get a toy poodle toticket championship of Egypt.
And he said you would, linda,you'd get one to ticket.
And it was like, okay,challenge accepted, I will get a
(01:28):
toy poodle because I'm sort ofin the middle of am I going to
get another border collie?
And I'm not sure, and it'sprobably a bit too soon for a
border collie and it's notplanned.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So let's have a toy poodle and see how we go and
tell me are you getting I takeit a little boy or a little girl
, and what is his name?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
he hasn't got a name yet other than he's sort of
called bobble.
I love it which can beshortened to bob of the poodle,
that's if it suits him.
When we get it, because I'mvery much into, let's get the
puppy and see what name suitsthem.
But his fantasy name, the onethat I've had in my head for the
(02:15):
poodle, I'm getting is Bobble.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So Bobble's coming home soon.
I think it's a really greattopic for our podcast, for all
of our listeners, everybody whois here listening Sex and
Squirrel podcast.
You guys get to hear it firstfrom lovely linda who is getting
her new puppy.
What are you thinking for yourearly planning stages?
And I love that we've gotanother dog on the road to
crufts, because we've not onlygot um our plans in place
(02:39):
already, which I know we'regoing to share with everybody
across the podcast.
Where we're planning to go toCrufts Obedience, that's Linda
and her lovely, lovely Ulla, andwe've got lots and lots of
goals and targets set.
But we've also got Bobble, whois on his way.
He's arriving very, very soon.
What are you thinking?
What are your first few days athome?
How does it look?
How does it go?
What's the plan?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And talk me through it, and I'm very happy to input
any stage if you need a hand.
Okay, so plan is we have to getthe house ready.
So we're already a gatedcommunity in my house.
We have full out dog gates allover the place, so I don't need
to put up baby gates or anythinglike that.
I do need to go into the loftand get the puppy pens down.
He won't need as big a puppypen as a built border collie,
but there'll be a pen.
(03:26):
We live upstairs in this houseso we have a sort of living
space upstairs and then officeis downstairs.
So he'll have a pen upstairsand he'll have a pen down here
in this office, but a very smallone as he's only a toy poodle.
I've ordered a pidddle mat forhim, because house training for
(03:47):
us in an upside down house isagain a challenge.
So I've I've got around um inthe last four dogs I think to
using um a grass in a, in a in atray.
But I use a product which iscalled Piddler Patch.
But you could just use a catlitter tray with a piece of turf
(04:09):
in it or some astroturf in itor something like that.
So I just get them used to.
There's a place with grasswhere they go to toilet, so
that's been ordered.
I've ordered some raw meat forhim because all my dogs have
been raw, so that's been ordered.
(04:30):
So puppy pens will go up, all myenrichment toys will come out
for puppies, because obviouslyhe's going to be tiny so he'll
need a little lick mat and alittle treat dispenser, toy,
things like that.
So the food's sorted, the bedsare sorted.
I've got plenty of beds.
So on the day which is on, so Ihave to go double-handed when I
(04:51):
pick up a puppy, because Idon't put them in a crate,
because I have a van with dogcrates in, I don't put them in
the crate in the back.
When they come home they comehome in the front with me
holding them and hubby drives.
So I'll have a very small puppycrate in the front and I'll be
(05:13):
with him, because he's inSwansea so that's about a five
hour drive.
So for five hours he'll be withme and then when he gets home
he will sleep in a crate next tomy bed.
So I work on that bond and thatsafety for a pup right from the
(05:33):
beginning.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I was just thinking one thing, linda.
I don't know if you've thoughtabout this or not.
I'm sure you have because youthink of everything.
You're a great planner but onething I was really shocked at
when I had my first small puppyand my first Cocker Spaniel was
how much smaller everything isin terms of the fact because I
love what you said it's a smallcrate crate and a small this.
They can get through every barI've got and I didn't think
about this because all of mypuppy pens and all of my bars
(05:56):
they just walked through and I'dbe like, oh, I didn't think
about that, and it's reallyfunny, as they strutted through
the puppy pen or they struttedthrough where I could leave my
others in certain places, likeI've got a little like picket
fence in the garden, the Cockpicket fence in the garden the
Cocker Spaniel would just hopthrough the gap and I'd be like,
oh, that wasn't my plan, uh, soyeah, it was an interesting one
(06:17):
.
It was definitely aninteresting one.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
He's got a balcony upstairs, he'll, he'll go
straight through the bars of thebalcony if I'm not careful yes,
those kind of things to plan onbecause he's going to be tiny
and we're talking probablybetween, I don't know, one and
three kilos.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I would imagine maybe a little bit on the I.
I mean, I've never had a, a,poodle, um, but I would imagine
within that window.
And so how about things likecollars and leads and harnesses?
What are your, what are yourthoughts on things?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
it's going to be a visit to pets at home she's
visiting, and does he have acolor?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
have you got a color in mind for him?
Is he blue?
He's silver, silver.
No, I meant as in, what's hiscolour of his leading collar?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Oh, I don't know, I don't know.
Well, turquoise probably.
I like sort of turquoise andblue and things like that on the
collies Silk, sort of an earlycolour.
So yes, he'll be blue probably.
But but it'll be a little busyto pets at home for early stages
.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
How exciting.
So what are your first gameslooking like?
What are you going to do forthe first things that you do
with his food or do with hisgames or do with his toy, like?
How is that going to work on a?
Um?
Early stages of games andgames-based learning?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
lovely, linda so first couple of weeks every
piece of food is going to getwill either be enrichment or it
will be from me, so it'll be inall sorts of fun games like
chasing a bit of food.
Obviously, with tiny pups,their eyes don't work very well
and it's where, when I'm workingwith people who've just got
their puppy, you have to explainthat your, your food bowling
(07:54):
skills have to be very good withthe puppy because they don't
see the piece of food go ifyou're too quick.
So you have to just get themused to getting their eye in and
doing a little bit of followand I start behaviors straight
away.
I mean he's going to be 10weeks when I pick him up, so
he'll be straight into learningto sit, go down, walk back, nose
(08:17):
, touch all of those littlebehaviours while using his food.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I love it, I love hearing it, I love knowing it.
I've got a lovely friend.
She's called Deb.
You've met her and she is goingto be doing exactly the same
with Border Collie Puppy.
So she's got a new BorderCollie Puppy and I love that.
You're already on to.
From the get go, every piece offood is either from enrichment
(08:44):
or from me, and personally mybalance is sometimes more one
than the other, depending on thedog.
So sometimes with cockers I'llactually give more enrichment
because they're so into me thatI actually need to turn them
like into something else,because if not I could get in
trouble with separation anxietyand struggles like that.
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But yeah, with the cockers Imight go into doing a bit more
of that, linda, or with myborder collies, because they're
often very, very into my otherdogs and they want to chase the
movement and watch the movementand look at the movement and and
be absorbed by the movement.
(09:25):
I actually do most of it withme if I can.
But obviously I use myenrichment to babysit, so my
enrichment allows me a bit ofbabysitting.
Eat that mat while I quicklywash my hair, or, um, lick on
that kong for a minute while Iquickly try and answer the door
and get them visitors in andsort the house or whatever else.
I'm trying to do so, or I'mgoing to hoover.
I mean it'd be a chance to be afine thing.
(09:46):
But you know what those typesof scenarios and I think I'm not
shocked.
You looked very shocked get heroff the camera, don't let her
be seen.
Um, but yeah, it really makesme um insanely happy to hear
that from you, that you're,you're straight away.
That is exactly how you feeltoo.
Now, how about play, linda?
Because I'm really a massive,massive, fundamental believer in
(10:09):
dogs work better when they playand you get more motivation
when you play.
And you saw recently when wewere training Ulla together, we
trained a lot together and Iused play a lot with you,
especially to overcome anyanxieties or struggles.
I use play a lot.
So I use play to like jack thearousal and to really allow the
dog to become moreenvironmentally established.
When the environment can betough and I know when we're
(10:39):
prepping a dog for crufts.
And I'm going to say this rightnow we don't want no poodly
poodle, we want like a wham.
Bam, I'm bobble, thank you outof my way.
We need, we need this dog superconfident.
We need him super present.
We need to really safeguard hisconfidence, but also not like
baby him, if that makes sense.
So you need to not over woollyjumper them and over.
I'm going to put like clotheson.
You be my handbag dog.
And at the same time we alsowant to safeguard his confidence
because we don't need an Ullaor a Sensi wiping him or
(11:01):
knocking him out and they'll dothat, sometimes just running
through the hallway, but theydon't even mean to do it.
Like Blink's been like bowledover by a dog Tokyo early on,
just from like walking throughthe same space together.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
It on um, just from like walking through the same
space together.
It's not any dog had any badintention, so, yeah, how does
that look for you?
Play?
So, play um.
All of the poodles that I teachhave the attention span of a
gnat on it off it on it, off it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I love that.
You thought to yourselfwouldn't this be a great breed
to go and train?
So all of the poodles I trainhave the attention span of a
gnat.
So I thought to myself I'mgoing to do that.
I love your wisdom.
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I love a challenge so I will be establishing a huge
amount of interaction with meplay, focus, focus and attention
, um, everything about centeringtheir an orientation around me
so that they don't.
The ones I've trained tend tocheck out very quickly.
(12:06):
You know they'll noticesomething worse than all the
behind.
They'll notice something andtheir attention will go.
So, yeah, and in terms ofconfidence, the thing that I try
to coach people with small dogsnot to do is pick them up, is
get them to meet the world fromthe floor.
(12:29):
They are a dog.
They need to be able not not tooverface them, but they need to
be able to behave like a dog,work like a dog, have the
confidence of a dog on the floornot being carried around by me
because it's so easy.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I that is one of the biggies is.
It's so easy because I knowoften when I'm running up and
down stairs and things like that, I just grab skittle under my
arm because they're so easy tograb.
So I definitely fall into thatsmall dog owner category where I
scoop them up way too often.
But it is easy and sometimes itkeeps them safeguarded.
But I agree there are placeswhen it doesn't need to happen.
Now, thinking on this, linda, Iknow we've got our 10 days to
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But, linda, what would be someof your um sort of early stage
um tips in terms of when youintroduce your dogs or how that
goes?
Because I know for sure thatI'm never in a rush to introduce
my dogs, but I think it's goodfor people to hear it from from
different people, and to thepoint that I don't think tokyo
met venture until he was aboutseven months, like not properly.
(13:52):
I mean, I would maybe go outand about on a walk or I'd maybe
, but I didn't put them head tohead in the house, where I know
it could be potentially aproblem, and I would say even
more so with a big dog and alittle dog coming into the house
.
I think that little dog, Ithink we really forget.
There's a very horrible storythat when I was sort of early on
in my dog training career, anacquaintance of mine, she had
(14:15):
two Jack Russell Terriers andher nan had a Chihuahua and they
left the dogs together and thatChihuahua died like it died
People.
They forget we're dealing withanimals.
These aren't animals.
And when you're talking about atoy poodle, a papillon, a very,
very small breed, I also know ofa papillon that was killed at a
(14:37):
big festival that we run inagility Kennel Club Festival.
It's called, not we when I sayit, it's the Kennel Club run it
and we go to that festival andthat papillon died again at the
jaws of another dog and thisisn't like a nasty, aggressive
beast, this is a dog who'sbitten and gone, and at the same
time it's been in the wrongsituation and no one's managed
the environment correctly.
(14:57):
And so, for me, those twoterriers should never have been
left with that chihuahua.
That was absolutelyirresponsible and of course
everyone has that heartfelt.
We hate that feeling forsomeone.
I mean, nobody wants to be inthat position.
But come on, guys, use yoursense, like where's your sense.
And so, for me, if this was mypoodle, I'm not in a hurry to
leave these dogs unsupervised.
(15:18):
I'm not in a hurry to umintroduce these dogs head-on in
confrontational spaces orsituations.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But equally, every train is different and I'm
really open to hearing how youmight do it well, I already
don't leave my dogs, so theperson on the sofa behind me
today, um, she's never leftunsupervised with my others.
The only dog that's left out inthe house unsupervised for free
is Ping, who's the eldest.
The other two girls go incrates if I'm not present, um,
(15:50):
or you know, they might lie on asofa or something like that, um
, with the puppy.
He would probably be six ornine months, even more.
I might never be left alonewith the others milling about.
I mean, I just don't do itbecause you, you know, you've
only got to have somebody cometo the door and then bark and
(16:11):
get aroused and there'd be anaccident, even if it's one gets
trodden on.
I just don't, I don't let ithappen, I don't go there.
I know we have this ideal of it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
The dog's house is their house and they should have
a free roam a bit and they gowhere they like, and I I think
they're better off just beingsafe and I really love that you
have that perspective in amulti-dog household and I think
it's worth saying here yourhousehold, like my household,
we've got some dogs who arereally level and cool with life,
but actually we've got somenaughty but nice dogs and my
(16:43):
naughty but nice dog thismorning and venture um, oh, I
mean some days I think you're alittle witch like she's got a
real edge, like she's got realedge, and you probably shouldn't
say that on a podcast.
But hey, here we go, let's bereal.
And she, she really did justsnipe over a vegetable.
So I chucked a few vegetablesin the garden and I thought
they're so low value I didn'treally think much of them, but
(17:05):
she's so resourcey at times thateven the vegetable in the
garden that she didn't want wasenough for her to snipe at.
And so it's just beingconstantly mindful when you've
got multi dogs.
I've got 10 dogs and I knowthat you're also in a multi dog
household and I think you'vejust always got to be mindful
and I'd much prefer to be safethan sorry.
And, like I said, the two sorry, the two Jack Russell's and the
(17:26):
Chihuahua uh, the papillon atthe big kennel club event, like
those, for me are stark warnings, and the other one I had as a
youngster was I was walking inthe park and two dogs went head
on head and one died.
They just ran.
It was just a, it was instant,and I've never experienced
things like that, linda, and yetthose were life-changing
another life-changing one for meand it was very emotional.
(17:48):
Another life-changing one for meis I taught a lovely, lovely
student for a good number ofyears beautiful, beautiful dog,
one of my favorite dogs I taught.
In fact, she got me really evenmore in love with Border
Collies than I already am andwas, and she left her with a
pig's ear and she chokedthree-year-old dog.
She choked and and I justremember being so utterly I just
(18:11):
couldn't believe it.
I was gobsmacked.
It was like losing a part ofbecause I taught her since she
was eight weeks old.
I taught her since she was ababy.
I loved this dog and this dogwas really talented and I loved
working with her and I lovedtraining with her and she was
just a great little dog and Ijust remember being super
horrified at the how easily thatcould happen.
So so, yeah, supervision,massive dogs like him wouldn't
(18:35):
be left with chews that arepotentially going to do things
like that, like there's lots tothink about, isn't there, I
think, people.
What I'd love to do is preventthese things from happening to
other people, because we knowthat these, these are things,
sadly, that can happen, and Ithink it's important that we we
maybe safeguard any of those.
What do you?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
think absolutely.
But then again, I don't wrapthem in cotton wool, so agreed.
So this pup will be in the vanfrom day one.
Um, they travel on the seatnext to me in a crate so that I
can get them used to the idea oftravelling, because he'll be
out and about every day.
He'll be going to anywhere I go.
(19:13):
He'll be exposed to, you know,the supermarket, car park, the
train station, bobble, on a roadtrip.
That's right, absolutely.
So I don't fuss about whetherthey're inoculated or not.
I mean, I don't let them gosniffing around in places where
(19:34):
there's been 101 dogs, but outin the middle of the country he
will be on the ground.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I love.
I have to say really quickly,linda, I love this because only
an hour ago I was chatting awayto Dave Dave, you and I know
very, very well one of ourregular podcasters and a
brilliant, brilliant trainer insearch dogs and he said I just
want to be a little bitcontroversial.
And I was like, oh god, what'she gonna say?
Because you're always awarewhen you're filming a podcast or
you're recording or filmingsomething that you're just like,
(20:04):
what's he gonna say?
Is it needing to be edited out?
And he, he said the thing iswith puppies, with puppies, with
puppies can't say it the way ofsaying puppies, but with puppy.
He said I will get them outafter their first vaccination.
And he said I'm not waiting forthe second.
And I said, right, I'm going tobe even more controversial and
I'm going to say I don't careabout any vaccination versus
getting them out.
(20:25):
But similar to you, I, butsimilar to you, I'm not going to
throw them down in the middleof the Birmingham city centre.
Dog poo, right, that is left intoo many different places and
I'm sure it's left in lots ofother city centres too, not just
Birmingham.
We were talking Birminghambecause that's where Dave lives.
However, when you're inOakhampton and it's so rural, no
, I'm not going to drop them inlike rat infested water, but I'm
(20:46):
also going to avoid lepto.
But I'm also and I'm not goingto take them to an area that I
know is known to have parvo,because there are several places
in the country that are knownto have parvo and recently it
was a dog show and it was knownto be in that area.
You're a bit more cautious, forsure.
At the same time, there's a,there's a risk and a balance and
a management space to be had.
That you're sort of fine tuning, that aren't you?
(21:06):
You with your socializationrisks.
So I love what you say and haveto just bring it up there
because you and dave and Ialigned you're on the same page.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
None of this.
Oh, he's got to be locked in alittle box until he's had all of
his infodoculations.
I just don't do it.
I don't make a fuss about it atall.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
So he'll be out and about running, so he'll be on
your road trips with you.
What type of road trips are yougoing to take him on?
Because I, I really love thisand this is exactly how I do it
we do life, we just do life, sowe just do life, and we keep
going and we do life togetheryeah, so he'll go to the shops.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
He'll go to my training days, um.
He'll probably have to bebabysat by lots of cooing women
um on my training days, so he'llget used to being toileted by
people he doesn't.
He's never met, um, he willjust be exposed to my life and
and he'll get on with itbasically, and then he'll get
trained.
Whenever I've got spare moment,and what about hubby?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
how does he fit into all of this?
Because he's a good man, isn'the your husband?
He's a good man.
I think he needs a shout out ofhis own here.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He's just supportive of everything I do around dogs,
and so there's never anyquestion if I say we're getting
a puppy, or I say what do youthink about this dog?
Or whatever he goes, yeah, yeah, let's go for it.
So, um, he, he follows therules.
He's pretty good at not undoingall my training, because he's
(22:37):
certainly been the recipient ofdon't use that word, that's the
competitive cue or something.
So he, he knows what not to sayand he knows what to say and he
, he's very, very good with them.
So if I'm going away for a youknow, I don't know if I was
going somewhere and I thoughtthat wasn't suitable for the pup
(22:58):
to go I'd be quite happy if hewould be left looking after the
pup.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Um, so, yeah, he's, um, he's a good man I also love
that you say puppies, straightaway in the van and just rock
and roll.
And I'm going to give you acouple of van stories while
we're here, and one of mine isthat my cat, as soon as I got
her, went in the van.
So Sadie, the cat, straight inthe van with the dogs, obviously
her own crate, and I put hernext to a spaniel because I know
the spaniels wouldn't like spatat her, which the collies
(23:24):
probably would um, but I lovethat.
I was just like rock and roll,get in the van.
So there was no, there was nothought of um, this isn't for
you, uh, for me, whatever, andSadie is my cat, not my, my dog,
um.
And the second one um for me iswhen I'm in the van, I have to
be a little bit careful aboutwho I put them next to, because
Venture, even three bars, can bequite snipey and she can be
(23:45):
sharp, and so as much as oncemine do progress to being in the
back with the other dogs andsometimes I can't put them on a
front seat because I've got mattand eliza and I and it's only a
three-seater um.
And so again, just for I'm sureyou're very, very well aware of
this.
But equally for our listeners,if mine are in the vehicle
against another dog or nearanother dog, I have to check
which dog so wild, is going tobe sweet and nice.
(24:07):
She's going to be like thistokyo would have been licking
them through the bars and tryingto be their best uncle tokyo,
whereas venture would be snipingand trying to pierce their lip
and give them an early earpiercing.
And so you've got to be mindfulof who you put them next to.
And that doesn't make venture aterrible dog.
She's just a sharp, naughty butnice dog, whereas um tokyo had
gorgeous manners.
Equally, um tokyo couldsometimes be a bit much and
(24:29):
would lick their head until theyprobably didn't want to be
licked.
So you've kind of got to knowwhen they, when each dog is
appropriate or not.
And I think it's just mindfulagain, when you've got multi
dogs, just to know these things.
And I didn't realize that a dogcan still go between bars and
they really can like venturesreally tried to to pierce
through bars.
So if you've got a dog whoreally doesn't like a puppy,
just don't put them in thatsituation, because even the
(24:51):
snarling and the growling andthe sniping and the those things
all still to still carrythrough right, it will.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's why I've always had solid crates, so I
don't have crates with barsbetween.
Yeah, but with the pup I tendto have them in a, as I say, in
a small puppy crate on the frontseat and so I can reassure them
, and then I transfer that tothe back, and then gradually,
and then they and this one'sgoing to be a particularly small
crate, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
it's just going to be .
I want you to tell me what.
I want you to tell me whatweight he is when you get him.
Okay, so you're going to dayone, you're going to weigh him
for me.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I want, in fact, I want a weight and a height okay,
okay, because I was talking, Iwas actually teaching the people
with the food was yesterday and, um, they said you don't, you
know, it's going to be reallysmall, don't you?
And I said, well, how smallthen.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
And they went, oh, and they sort of held their
hands up, a bit like this and Iwent oh my god, you will be
shocked, like I've had lots ofsmall dogs, but I'm always
shocked.
I'm always like, oh my god,you're so tiny, so I cannot wait
, linda.
So everyone's excited for you,everyone's rooting for you,
everyone cannot wait to seebobble and bobble on his crufts
journey all the way tochampionship.
(26:01):
Uh, are you going to share morewith us?
Are you game?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I will, I will.
I will keep you updated on howhe does.
I will do my best to actuallylog some of his training because
that would be people wouldprobably like to see that.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Beautiful the adventures of Bobble.
They are about to open.
So, guys, that was this episodeof the Sexiest Girl podcast.
Thank you, Linda, for joiningus.
As always, we can't wait tohear more about Bobble, and I'll
see you all next week.
And remember, guys, stay sexy.
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