Unlock the secrets of a fulfilling career transition with Heather Stansel, an advanced registered nurse practitioner who shares her remarkable journey from pediatrics to aesthetics. For anyone considering a career in nursing or contemplating a shift in specialties, Heather's story offers valuable insights and practical advice. Hear firsthand how a simple high school aptitude test set her on a path that would eventually redefine her professional pursuits.
Discover the intricacies of moving from one medical specialty to another, as Heather recounts her experiences and the challenges she faced during her transition. Her move into aesthetics wasn't just about mastering Botox and fillers; it was a deep dive into communication and confidence, skills she honed in pediatrics that seamlessly translated into the world of aesthetics. Explore how her ability to soothe anxious parents became a transformative tool in building trust with her aesthetics clients, offering a unique perspective on patient care.
Addressing social media's impact on self-worth, Heather delves into the essential conversations medical professionals must have with patients seeking aesthetic treatments. Join us as we explore the collaborative spirit within the aesthetics industry, where diverse opinions and teamwork lead to enhanced patient outcomes. Be inspired by the rewarding nature of helping individuals overcome insecurities and gain confidence, and learn how you can connect with Heather and other professionals for more insights. Don't miss out on this enlightening episode and join our community on social media for future updates and discussions.
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Ashley (00:01):
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Today, I have the pleasure ofchatting with Heather Stansel,
an advanced registered nursepractitioner who's made a great
transition into the world ofaesthetics.
Heather shares her journey fromher early days in nursing to
how she combines art andmedicine to help patients look
and feel their best.
We'll explore the flexibilityof a career in nursing, the
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realities of aesthetics trainingand how she builds confidence
and trust with her patients.
Heather also shares her visionfor the future of aesthetics and
advice for anyone considering acareer in aesthetics medicine.
Stick around until the end,where Heather describes how she
manages patient expectations anddiscusses the importance of
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self-worth in cosmetic medicine.
Please keep in mind that thecontent of this podcast is
intended for informational andentertainment purposes only and
should not be considered asprofessional medical advice.
The views and opinionsexpressed in this podcast are
those of the host and guests anddo not necessarily reflect the
official policy or position ofany other agency, organization,
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employer or company.
Hey, heather, thank you so muchfor joining me today on Shadow
Me Next.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm really good.
Thank you for being here withus.
I know your time is valuableand you have a lot to offer, and
I think you have a lot ofreally great things to share
today that are important for notjust students, not just
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pre-health students, butimportant for just the regular
person too.
I think these are questionsthat have come up in
conversation, and these arequestions that we really wish we
had a medical professional thatwe could ask.
Heather (02:44):
Of course, Any questions you have, I'll be sure
to answer.
Ashley (02:48):
Thank you, Heather.
So tell us how your journey inmedicine started.
Did you always know that youwanted to go into medicine?
How did that look?
Heather (02:57):
I think it wasn't something I always knew, I want
to say my senior year in highschool, when we had to sit down
and take those aptitude tests,what kind of matches these
careers to your personality andwhat your future would look like
.
And I think that's really thefirst time nursing became a
thing for me.
And then, of course, like a lotof nurses, when you're out in
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the hospital world it gets alittle physical and you think,
oh, I can't do this forever.
And then you decide to becomean NP, and I think that's how it
was for me.
It wasn't always an NP dream ofmine, it just kind of came
naturally over time.
Ashley (03:40):
Is that a pretty common thing that you found working in
nursing to where you know?
Maybe it didn't turn out theway you wanted it to, or perhaps
your life goals have shifted alittle bit?
Have you found that a lot ofyour colleagues end up becoming
nurse practitioners?
Heather (03:56):
Yes, I do.
When I decided I wanted to be anurse, I wanted to do
pediatrics and that was alwaysmy job that I dreamed of.
And I think a lot of peoplekind of start off with that idea
and once you try it out you'relike, oh, maybe that's a little
different than I thought itwould be and let me try
something new.
And that's the great thingabout nursing is that you can
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kind of venture out a little bitand see what works better for
you with that period in yourlife yeah, no, that's true's
true.
Ashley (04:25):
And I think that that's where training, generally
speaking, is so important.
And from the beginning I'vetalked to people who thought
they wanted to become a doctorinitially, and that's a very
reasonable dream.
And then either they shadow adoctor or they start researching
about the schooling that'srequired and they shift.
Or perhaps they start innursing and then they realize
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that's required and they shift.
Or you know, perhaps they startin nursing and then they
realize that's not what theywant to do and they shift.
Or maybe they're in school tobecome a nurse practitioner and
they're looking at pediatricsand they realize, hey,
pediatrics is a lot of talkingto parents and really not so
much hands-on with kids, andthen they shift, you know.
So I think the flexibility ofmedicine early is a really
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interesting topic and I'm reallyglad you brought that up.
It's not set in stone initially, but it can be set in stone
later.
So have you?
Right now you are working as anaesthetics nurse practitioner.
Have you always worked in thatfield as a nurse practitioner,
or has that changed?
Is there flexibility there too?
Heather (05:29):
No, I have not always done aesthetic.
I actually did pediatrics forprobably close to five years.
So yeah, I do think you canmake a career change, but it
probably does kind of have to beearlier in your career.
You don't want to stick to onething and do it for 30 years and
then have to start over.
It's going to be kind of hardto get into if that's where none
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of your experience is from.
Ashley (05:56):
It's true I've had a couple of friends in life that
have done exactly that for onereason or the other.
A lot of times it's becausetheir current place of practice
has either closed orsignificantly changed leadership
and they've shifted fields, notjust specialties.
So a PA, for example, that Iworked with she started off in
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emergency medicine, urgent care,and she had done that for
almost 20, 30 years and then theurgent care shifted.
They had new management comingin and it was just not a
comfortable, safe environmentfor her anymore and so she
started working in dermatologyand she said you know, ash,
working in the urgent care, Isaw a lot of dermatology.
I saw a lot of things in urgentcare rashes and cysts and
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abscesses, things like thatrashes and cysts and abscesses,
things like that.
But she said it's like a wholenew world actually being in this
specialty and specializing andit's a lot.
But I think in school and I'dlove to talk to you about your
scholastic experience but Ithink in school we learn how to
be flexible and we learn how toshift and learn new things.
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We learn how to learn is theeasiest way to say it.
And she said you know, after 30years being out of school.
I still remember that.
Tell me about what yourschooling looks like and how you
kind of arrived at where youare.
Heather (07:14):
I became an RN, I just did associates two years and
started working in the hospital,and then a lot of nursing
programs are online, so I wasable to get my bachelor's degree
online.
In order to get into a nursepractitioner program at least
back when I did it you had tohave at least two years working
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in that field before a programwould accept you.
So once that happened, it wasan additional two years to get
my master's, so six years total.
Ashley (07:46):
But there was a little break in there to kind of get
some experience in before youcould get into a practice
program it seems like so muchschooling, but and I'm sure it
was so much schooling, which isnice though that you can kind of
offload doing other things andI'm sure financially it was
really nice to be able to havethat job while you were in
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school, kind of continuing tobring in money as money was also
going out, kind of a revolvingdoor of finances.
Did you have any experiences,either while you were in nursing
school or getting your nursepractitioner degree, that you
stopped and you said Idefinitely don't want to do that
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part of nursing?
Heather (08:29):
Yeah.
So for me the whole pulmonarypart of nursing was very
confusing to me, like the bloodgases out just kind of went over
my head a lot of the time.
So I knew I could never be anurse anesthetist.
I know a lot of people wentthat route and are doing great,
but for me that just didn'tclick very well, like cool
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didn't love my GYN internship, Ithink maybe I just wasn't at a
very great place where I waslearning a lot, but for me that
was a specialty that didn'tquite, you know, get me very
excited for whatever reason.
So yeah, there were a fewinstances like that for sure.
Ashley (09:12):
Thanks for sharing that .
You bring up two reallyinteresting points.
So when I talk to people abouttheir experiences in school and
if they had any fields orpatients, even where they knew
it was a hard stop, a lot oftimes they talk about those
exact two things that you justmentioned.
It's education related and it'splaces related, right?
So for example, for me, on thelast episode, I was talking to
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Hector Bird and I told him Isaid, hector, I failed my
endocrine test in PA school.
I did.
I missed it by two questions,so it's hardly bombing, but I
did fail it.
And I said, because of that, Iknew I was absolutely not
interested in endocrine.
And God bless the people thatwork in endocrinology because in
my head they are geniuses.
I just do not get it.
And much like you said, theblood gases, it's just, there
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are certain concepts of medicinethat we have an understanding
of, but you can bet I am goingto send any of my patients with
any of these problems off to aspecialist for that.
Send any of my patients withany of these problems off to a
specialist for that.
So that's one reason education.
You know, it's just, theconcepts are just not clicking
for you.
And then the other one which tome it's it's a little bit more
upsetting are the experiences onrotation right?
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So places, I agree with you.
My OBGYN rotation was rough andI went and worked as an OBGYN
PA for a number of years aftermy OBGYN rotation, but it was
just hard.
I think it was because of theplace and, like you said, I
think yours was because of theplace, whether it's the support
from your supervising physiciansor the leaders on the medical
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team that you're working with,or perhaps the amount that they
let you do, or perhaps theamount that they let you do, or
maybe the things that they forceyou to do, which is never any
fun the patients, the procedures.
I think being on rotationsometimes can make or break.
But I just want to encouragewhoever's thinking about
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medicine that your experience atone place is not necessarily
your experience at the next.
So keep that in mind when itcomes to places.
Now, education do you loveblood gases?
I still hate endocrinology.
I can't really speak to that.
Heather (11:16):
I think we made the right choice there.
But yeah, definitely can bedifferent in different areas
like, can be different indifferent areas, absolutely.
Ashley (11:27):
So let's talk about aesthetics.
You were working in pediatricsand at some point you decided,
hey, you know I'm ready for alittle bit of a career shift,
were you afraid?
Heather (11:37):
yes, it for me.
I made the switch.
It was during the pandemic, Ihad just had a baby, so there
were a lot of big changes goingon around me.
Anyway, I think I just kind ofdidn't want to go back to the
craziness after I was onmaternity leave and I had you
know, I had lasers done before.
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And I always thought like thisjust seems like such a fun
environment to work in.
So I think that's kind of justwhat pushed me to finally take
the class and see if it was afit for me and I haven't looked
back.
Ashley (12:15):
Mobility, and you know we talk about being able to
shift around careers.
Like it's.
You know you wake up on theright side of the bed instead of
the left side of the bed, andit's not.
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You know.
We've already talked about thisa little bit.
What kind of preparation, whatkind of course did you have to
take, if any, to shift frompediatrics to aesthetics?
Heather (12:45):
Well, there's a few different ones out there.
At the time I don't think therewere a lot being offered, but
you know, there's courses like abasic intro to Botox or basic
intro to filler, and then theyget a little bit more advanced.
So you kind of started Istarted with just a basic Botox
and filler course, did a littlepractice and then took some more
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of the advanced courses and gota job and that's kind of how
you get your experience and yougot to do it wherever you can
what?
Ashley (13:18):
in your opinion, was there something that stands out
as the biggest learning curvewith?
With stepping into aesthetics?
Heather (13:27):
I think it's a field where you know people are
nervous, they're very concernedabout their look.
So it was kind of different inthat aspect of how I presented
myself.
Like you definitely have to beable to communicate well and
show your confidence, to kind ofcalm them down and trust you,
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and that was different than whatI was used to in working in
PEDS.
Ashley (13:58):
Different, but I bet you, I bet you there were
certain elements that were verymuch the same.
And I'm thinking about a parentcomes in with their sick child
and you know that the child isnot life or death sick and the
parent thinks that they areright.
The child has 104 temperatureand their cough sounds like it's
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from the depths of hell and butthe kid is sitting there
playing, looking at you, smilingand laughing, and the parent
thinks that it's the end of theworld.
And yet you know, because ofyour practice, this child's fine
, this child's playing andsmiling, and so you kind of have
to take what you see clinicallyand and boil it down for the
parent, who is very scared andconcerned, and I'm sure that a
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lot of those skills translatedover.
It's just a different topic,right, and it's a different type
of fear You're right, that'svery true.
So what does your schedule looklike?
What does a day working inaesthetics?
What does that look like?
Heather (14:58):
It's typically the majority of people getting Botox
.
I do have a few 15-minutefollow-up appointments where
somebody has had treatment acouple weeks before and we're
just you know, checking up tosee how they're doing, taking
some after photos, and thenprobably two to four people a
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day getting filler, which is anhour-long appointment because
they have to numb for it.
It doesn't start a little bitlonger, but I would say majority
are those 30-minute peoplegetting talked.
Ashley (15:34):
Are most of them geared up, ready to go excited about
it, or do you have a lot ofpatients that come in and they
are scared right?
Heather (15:43):
Yeah, especially if they haven't done it before.
I do kind of have to, you know,do some amping up of them if
they don't really know what toexpect, or even if they're just
new to me or they've never hadfiller in their lips before and
they're scared.
It's going to look crazy.
Those people are nervous, butthe majority of people are very
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excited to be there and ready togo.
Ashley (16:09):
Absolutely.
So what does kind of like aBotox appointment look like?
Do you talk to the patientabout what they expect every
single time, or do you have somepatients that walk in and you
know what they want and theyknow what they want, and so you
just get after it?
Heather (16:22):
Yeah, you get regular for sure.
If I know them, we kind ofcatch up and do our little girl
talk, but if not, typicallystart with taking some before
photos, asking them to explainto me where the areas on their
face they want me to try to workwith I do some marking.
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Let them know about how manyunits of Botox I think they need
.
Then we draw it up and make ourinjections.
It typically takes about twoweeks to kick in.
You want to avoid exercise forthe first 24 hours and like flat
for four hours.
So there's a few littleinstructions I have to give
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people who aren't regular.
You know that people aregetting it for a while.
You don't have to give thateducation every time, but for
somebody new you definitely wantto kind of warn them of the
things not to do.
Ashley (17:20):
Which is really good medical practice.
Patient education is a hugeelement and there is patient
education in aesthetics.
I think that's a really bigdeal huge element.
And there is patient educationand aesthetics.
I think that's a really bigdeal.
And I think a lot of times, thepatient education and
aesthetics is they really haveto listen to it.
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And I think a lot of times, youknow, patients will walk away
with their educational pamphletsand they'll say, okay, well,
you know, out the door, I'llleave it in my car under my seat
.
But that's why it's so importantto discuss these things with
them face-to-face and kind ofexplain why we're talking about
the things we're talking about.
It's huge.
It's not just in primary careor dermatology, it's in
aesthetics too, and I thinkthat's a really important
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element of it.
Heather, how do you managepatient expectations?
I think this is one of the mosttricky questions I've ever
wanted to ask an aestheticsprovider is when you have a
patient come in and they've seenall the TikToks and all the
videos of people with this, thatand the other done and they sit
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down and they start explainingthese things to you and you
realize that this is not goingto be what's best for this
person?
How do you manage thoseexpectations when they have
unrealistic goals?
Heather (18:38):
yes, and that happens a lot, as you can imagine.
Honestly, you have to be ableto communicate really well.
Yeah, to listen to what they'retelling me, because my idea of
what they're saying may be alittle bit different than the
way they think they'recommunicating it.
So this is so important to haveclear communication with the
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patient on what they'reexpecting or telling them.
Honestly, I don't think you'dbe a good candidate for this.
A lot of that TikTok and socialmedia stuff just really is
inaccurate as well?
Ashley (19:14):
do you have conversations about self-worth
in aesthetics at all?
Heather (19:20):
yeah, yeah.
I think as a woman, we're justso hard on ourselves and it's
almost kind of sad to see a lotof times when there is a flaw
that somebody is focusing on andwe are able to fix it for them,
it's almost instant how theireyes will find something else to
focus on that they won't fixnext.
So yeah it is a lot of tryingto build these women up and make
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them feel good about themselves.
It's really easy to pickourselves apart.
Ashley (19:47):
We see that in dermatology too, and you know,
at our dermatology practice wedo not do any aesthetics, which
I'm grateful that I have peoplelike you that I can send these
patients to, that know exactlywhat you're doing and have had
all the practice I have seen.
And I'd be interested to knowif the age of your clientele has
started to decrease.
Very, very young people, mostlygirls, but not always A lot of
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boys too coming in wanting Xremoved or Y quote, unquote
fixed I really try hard not touse that term.
None of us need anything fixed,right and a lot of them will
have that conversation aboutself-worth and about what
specifically is upsetting themabout that feature of their body
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, and a lot of times I will sendthem over to the aesthetics
professionals like you and haveyou guys also speak to them
about this.
And I'm just so grateful to knowthat the conversation for
self-worth and you probablyexperienced this in your
pediatrics clinic but thatconversation of self-worth and
you probably experienced this inyour pediatrics clinic but that
conversation of self-worththey're not going to just hear
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it one time from their mom ortheir dad or their grandma.
I hope that especially children, but also adults and older
adults, hear this conversationover and over amongst all of
their medical providers.
I agree, heather.
Tell me a story about when youhad a patient come in and you
were able to effectivelycommunicate with them and
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determine the area that theywanted some treatment on, and
tell me about how good it feltwhen they were so happy and
thrilled with the final outcome.
How did it feel?
Is it just like ultimately sosatisfying?
Heather (21:32):
Oh, absolutely, because you know those are times when
you do feel like you're reallymaking a difference, when you
know somebody had thisinsecurity and you were able to
get rid of it for them and youjust see their face light up.
So it's, like you know, a veryrewarding job in that sense.
Ashley (21:52):
Absolutely.
I want to pivot a little bitreal quick and ask you about
teamwork and aesthetics.
Do you work in a practice wherethere are other providers doing
different things or perhapsother providers doing the same
things?
What does that look like atyour clinic?
Heather (22:09):
Yeah, so it's a little bit of both.
I work at Dermalase MedicalSchool in Ocala and, as of right
now, there's three of us thatare injecting and then we have
two other girls that areestheticians, so they're doing
the facials and themicroneedling.
Three nurse practitioners aredoing the Botox and fillers,
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which is nice because it's veryhelpful to have other people to
bounce ideas off of.
I think in anything in red andblack.
It's kind of nice to have myfirst job in aesthetics.
I was working on my own, sothat was a little tough for me
to really learn new techniquesor be confident to try something
new when I was on my own,versus when you're with other
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people.
You can kind of be a littlemore confident to try this
technique or something that theydo that works for them, and
it's a really nice environmentto work in.
Ashley (23:09):
Yeah, I think it's.
You know, we're all capable.
We're all totally capable ofworking on our own as PAs.
We have to have a supervisingphysician, but a lot of times,
you know, the supervisingphysician isn't peering over
your shoulder the whole timeyou're doing the exam.
But you absolutely nailed itwhen you said that it is just so
much better working in a teamas opposed to working by
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yourself or bouncing off ideasor, you know, getting their
opinion on something thatperhaps they might disagree with
you on.
I cannot tell you the number oftimes I have spoken to a
colleague of mine specificallybecause I knew that colleague
was going to have a differentopinion.
And it's so valuable to mebecause I think like I think,
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and sometimes I can try to seethe opposite side of things.
But a lot of times it's sohelpful to have a trusted
colleague say you know well, yes, you could inject filler in
this part of her face, but ifthis is her concern, then why
don't you consider injectinghere instead?
It's going to feel strange, butI think you're going to achieve
a better result, something likethat you know.
So I think that collaborationpeople always think that it's
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collaboration because we agreeand collaboration because we
have a similar view.
But so much of it iscollaboration because I don't
agree with them and I want tohear what they have to say.
It's so great working as amember of a team, so tell me
about what the estheticians do.
Heather (24:33):
That's a little bit different perhaps from what
you're doing as an injector.
So they're doing chemical peels, they're doing microneedling
facials.
It's nice because they areexperts when it comes to like
skin care.
A lot of times I do bounceideas off of them if somebody is
having like a big rosaceaproblem or something that's not
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specific to my field, but theyknow more, so about the better
products we can use on that typeof patient, or just kind of
give them advice on what theycan do better for their skin.
Ashley (25:10):
Very cool.
I love hearing about who peoplework with and the elements of
the team and what differentiatesus from them, and it's very
interesting.
I love hearing about that.
Thank you for sharing, heather.
This is a tough question.
Are there any misconceptionsthat people have about aesthetic
medicine that you wish youcould just speak to and give
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them reassurance on?
Heather (25:35):
Well, I think it.
You know, obviously there are alot of people in the world that
take aesthetics a little toofar and maybe give us a little
bad advertising.
I would say, and I thinkthere's just so many people that
don't even realize you can do alittle bit and have nobody
notice, but it can definitelylook very natural if that's the
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look you're going for.
So that's kind of what I wishmore people would consider
instead of you know thinkingthat it's all giving us a bad
rap in that way.
Ashley (26:17):
Now, heather and I did not discuss a quality question,
but this brings up a reallygreat question that I have
received a few times oninterview myself.
The interviewer will see thatI've had a history in
dermatology, for example, as amedical assistant, and they will
say so.
Obviously, since you've workedin dermatology up until PA
school, you must want to be acosmetic dermatologist and I
would encourage you to reallyexplore your answer to that
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question.
Yes, of course, I wasinterested in dermatology.
That is what I wanted to do,but I was so excited about PA
school and I was so excitedabout all of the different
things I was going to learn.
The fact that that interviewerpigeonholed me was something I
was really able to discuss andelaborate on in my own interview
.
Keep in mind that these qualityquestions are meant to help you
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develop your own cache ofquestions to prepare for for
your own interviews, and thereare so many more resources on
shadowmenextcom, such as mockinterviews and personal
statement review, to help youanswer your own quality
questions.
I think that's great.
You know, you're absolutelyright, and in every field, in
every arena in life, there arepeople that take it too far.
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You know, good things inmoderation.
That's what I'm telling myfour-year-old all the time.
Granted.
We're not talking about Botox.
We're talking about M&Ms andchocolate chip cookies, but good
things in moderation.
It's wonderful to treatourselves sometimes and we can
have fantastic outcomes becauseof it, and I think that I think
it's very important, obviouslyin moderation, just like
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everything else.
Exercise good things inmoderation.
I spoke to a physical therapista couple episodes ago and I
think she would totally agreewith us.
You know she sees plenty ofpeople who have come in and they
have exercise-induced injuriesbecause they didn't, you know,
pertain to this theory that itis exercise is fantastic for
your body, but you can't overdoit.
You shouldn't overdo it,because then you're going to run
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into some trouble.
You're going to run into someproblems.
Where do you see the aestheticsfield going in the next five to
10 years?
What do you propose?
Do you think it's just going tocontinue to remain the same?
Do you think there's going tobe new things out there that are
exciting for people to try?
Do you think we're going topull back on it really hard?
What are you seeing trending?
Heather (28:24):
I mean they're always coming out with new and exciting
things, so I think it's goingto keep progressing.
Obviously, we can only go sofar.
We're not plastic surgeons.
I think it probably will reacha point at some point, but I
think it'll be a long time fromnow, because they're just all
the time coming out with newproducts that can do these cool
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and amazing things so that youcan avoid plastic surgery if
possible.
Ashley (28:51):
Yeah, absolutely.
That's exciting.
Heather, what advice would yougive to other nurses or nurse
practitioners or even just othermembers of the healthcare
network that might be interestedin transitioning into
aesthetics?
What would you recommend?
Heather (29:11):
I'd say do it, take the course, see how you feel about
it, if it's something for you ornot.
And obviously I think withanything in medicine you're
gonna not be super confidentright off the bat.
You kind of do have to get someexperience in before you feel
like you really know what you'redoing.
So just kind of stay the courseand get the practice in where
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you can.
Ashley (29:36):
I think that's a great piece of advice and really good
recommendation.
Take the leap, see how you feel, see if you like it as with all
things, you never really knowuntil you're in there doing it.
But I think, as long as youreally research what you are
walking into and you talk to theappropriate people and you
shadow if you can, it's a greatfield and I love how it combines
art and medicine and you reallyget to make huge impacts in
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Today, I have the pleasure ofchatting with Heather Stansel,
an advanced registered nursepractitioner who's made a great
transition into the world ofaesthetics.
Heather shares her journey fromher early days in nursing to
how she combines art andmedicine to help patients look
and feel their best.
We'll explore the flexibilityof a career in nursing, the
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realities of aesthetics trainingand how she builds confidence
and trust with her patients.
Heather also shares her visionfor the future of aesthetics and
advice for anyone considering acareer in aesthetics medicine.
Stick around until the end,where Heather describes how she
manages patient expectations anddiscusses the importance of
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employer or company.
Hey, heather, thank you so muchfor joining me today on Shadow
Me Next.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm really good.
Thank you for being here withus.
I know your time is valuableand you have a lot to offer, and
I think you have a lot ofreally great things to share
today that are important for notjust students, not just
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pre-health students, butimportant for just the regular
person too.
I think these are questionsthat have come up in
conversation, and these arequestions that we really wish we
had a medical professional thatwe could ask.
Heather (02:44):
Of course, Any questions you have, I'll be sure
to answer.
Ashley (02:48):
Thank you, Heather.
So tell us how your journey inmedicine started.
Did you always know that youwanted to go into medicine?
How did that look?
Heather (02:57):
I think it wasn't something I always knew, I want
to say my senior year in highschool, when we had to sit down
and take those aptitude tests,what kind of matches these
careers to your personality andwhat your future would look like
.
And I think that's really thefirst time nursing became a
thing for me.
And then, of course, like a lotof nurses, when you're out in
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the hospital world it gets alittle physical and you think,
oh, I can't do this forever.
And then you decide to becomean NP, and I think that's how it
was for me.
It wasn't always an NP dream ofmine, it just kind of came
naturally over time.
Ashley (03:40):
Is that a pretty common thing that you found working in
nursing to where you know?
Maybe it didn't turn out theway you wanted it to, or perhaps
your life goals have shifted alittle bit?
Have you found that a lot ofyour colleagues end up becoming
nurse practitioners?
Heather (03:56):
Yes, I do.
When I decided I wanted to be anurse, I wanted to do
pediatrics and that was alwaysmy job that I dreamed of.
And I think a lot of peoplekind of start off with that idea
and once you try it out you'relike, oh, maybe that's a little
different than I thought itwould be and let me try
something new.
And that's the great thingabout nursing is that you can
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kind of venture out a little bitand see what works better for
you with that period in yourlife yeah, no, that's true's
true.
Ashley (04:25):
And I think that that's where training, generally
speaking, is so important.
And from the beginning I'vetalked to people who thought
they wanted to become a doctorinitially, and that's a very
reasonable dream.
And then either they shadow adoctor or they start researching
about the schooling that'srequired and they shift.
Or perhaps they start innursing and then they realize
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that's required and they shift.
Or you know, perhaps they startin nursing and then they
realize that's not what theywant to do and they shift.
Or maybe they're in school tobecome a nurse practitioner and
they're looking at pediatricsand they realize, hey,
pediatrics is a lot of talkingto parents and really not so
much hands-on with kids, andthen they shift, you know.
So I think the flexibility ofmedicine early is a really
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interesting topic and I'm reallyglad you brought that up.
It's not set in stone initially, but it can be set in stone
later.
So have you?
Right now you are working as anaesthetics nurse practitioner.
Have you always worked in thatfield as a nurse practitioner,
or has that changed?
Is there flexibility there too?
Heather (05:29):
No, I have not always done aesthetic.
I actually did pediatrics forprobably close to five years.
So yeah, I do think you canmake a career change, but it
probably does kind of have to beearlier in your career.
You don't want to stick to onething and do it for 30 years and
then have to start over.
It's going to be kind of hardto get into if that's where none
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of your experience is from.
Ashley (05:56):
It's true I've had a couple of friends in life that
have done exactly that for onereason or the other.
A lot of times it's becausetheir current place of practice
has either closed orsignificantly changed leadership
and they've shifted fields, notjust specialties.
So a PA, for example, that Iworked with she started off in
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emergency medicine, urgent care,and she had done that for
almost 20, 30 years and then theurgent care shifted.
They had new management comingin and it was just not a
comfortable, safe environmentfor her anymore and so she
started working in dermatologyand she said you know, ash,
working in the urgent care, Isaw a lot of dermatology.
I saw a lot of things in urgentcare rashes and cysts and
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abscesses, things like thatrashes and cysts and abscesses,
things like that.
But she said it's like a wholenew world actually being in this
specialty and specializing andit's a lot.
But I think in school and I'dlove to talk to you about your
scholastic experience but Ithink in school we learn how to
be flexible and we learn how toshift and learn new things.
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We learn how to learn is theeasiest way to say it.
And she said you know, after 30years being out of school.
I still remember that.
Tell me about what yourschooling looks like and how you
kind of arrived at where youare.
Heather (07:14):
I became an RN, I just did associates two years and
started working in the hospital,and then a lot of nursing
programs are online, so I wasable to get my bachelor's degree
online.
In order to get into a nursepractitioner program at least
back when I did it you had tohave at least two years working
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in that field before a programwould accept you.
So once that happened, it wasan additional two years to get
my master's, so six years total.
Ashley (07:46):
But there was a little break in there to kind of get
some experience in before youcould get into a practice
program it seems like so muchschooling, but and I'm sure it
was so much schooling, which isnice though that you can kind of
offload doing other things andI'm sure financially it was
really nice to be able to havethat job while you were in
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school, kind of continuing tobring in money as money was also
going out, kind of a revolvingdoor of finances.
Did you have any experiences,either while you were in nursing
school or getting your nursepractitioner degree, that you
stopped and you said Idefinitely don't want to do that
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part of nursing?
Heather (08:29):
Yeah.
So for me the whole pulmonarypart of nursing was very
confusing to me, like the bloodgases out just kind of went over
my head a lot of the time.
So I knew I could never be anurse anesthetist.
I know a lot of people wentthat route and are doing great,
but for me that just didn'tclick very well, like cool
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didn't love my GYN internship, Ithink maybe I just wasn't at a
very great place where I waslearning a lot, but for me that
was a specialty that didn'tquite, you know, get me very
excited for whatever reason.
So yeah, there were a fewinstances like that for sure.
Ashley (09:12):
Thanks for sharing that .
You bring up two reallyinteresting points.
So when I talk to people abouttheir experiences in school and
if they had any fields orpatients, even where they knew
it was a hard stop, a lot oftimes they talk about those
exact two things that you justmentioned.
It's education related and it'splaces related, right?
So for example, for me, on thelast episode, I was talking to
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Hector Bird and I told him Isaid, hector, I failed my
endocrine test in PA school.
I did.
I missed it by two questions,so it's hardly bombing, but I
did fail it.
And I said, because of that, Iknew I was absolutely not
interested in endocrine.
And God bless the people thatwork in endocrinology because in
my head they are geniuses.
I just do not get it.
And much like you said, theblood gases, it's just, there
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are certain concepts of medicinethat we have an understanding
of, but you can bet I am goingto send any of my patients with
any of these problems off to aspecialist for that.
Send any of my patients withany of these problems off to a
specialist for that.
So that's one reason education.
You know, it's just, theconcepts are just not clicking
for you.
And then the other one which tome it's it's a little bit more
upsetting are the experiences onrotation right?
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So places, I agree with you.
My OBGYN rotation was rough andI went and worked as an OBGYN
PA for a number of years aftermy OBGYN rotation, but it was
just hard.
I think it was because of theplace and, like you said, I
think yours was because of theplace, whether it's the support
from your supervising physiciansor the leaders on the medical
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team that you're working with,or perhaps the amount that they
let you do, or perhaps theamount that they let you do, or
maybe the things that they forceyou to do, which is never any
fun the patients, the procedures.
I think being on rotationsometimes can make or break.
But I just want to encouragewhoever's thinking about
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medicine that your experience atone place is not necessarily
your experience at the next.
So keep that in mind when itcomes to places.
Now, education do you loveblood gases?
I still hate endocrinology.
I can't really speak to that.
Heather (11:16):
I think we made the right choice there.
But yeah, definitely can bedifferent in different areas
like, can be different indifferent areas, absolutely.
Ashley (11:27):
So let's talk about aesthetics.
You were working in pediatricsand at some point you decided,
hey, you know I'm ready for alittle bit of a career shift,
were you afraid?
Heather (11:37):
yes, it for me.
I made the switch.
It was during the pandemic, Ihad just had a baby, so there
were a lot of big changes goingon around me.
Anyway, I think I just kind ofdidn't want to go back to the
craziness after I was onmaternity leave and I had you
know, I had lasers done before.
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And I always thought like thisjust seems like such a fun
environment to work in.
So I think that's kind of justwhat pushed me to finally take
the class and see if it was afit for me and I haven't looked
back.
Ashley (12:15):
Mobility, and you know we talk about being able to
shift around careers.
Like it's.
You know you wake up on theright side of the bed instead of
the left side of the bed, andit's not.
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You know.
We've already talked about thisa little bit.
What kind of preparation, whatkind of course did you have to
take, if any, to shift frompediatrics to aesthetics?
Heather (12:45):
Well, there's a few different ones out there.
At the time I don't think therewere a lot being offered, but
you know, there's courses like abasic intro to Botox or basic
intro to filler, and then theyget a little bit more advanced.
So you kind of started Istarted with just a basic Botox
and filler course, did a littlepractice and then took some more
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of the advanced courses and gota job and that's kind of how
you get your experience and yougot to do it wherever you can
what?
Ashley (13:18):
in your opinion, was there something that stands out
as the biggest learning curvewith?
With stepping into aesthetics?
Heather (13:27):
I think it's a field where you know people are
nervous, they're very concernedabout their look.
So it was kind of different inthat aspect of how I presented
myself.
Like you definitely have to beable to communicate well and
show your confidence, to kind ofcalm them down and trust you,
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and that was different than whatI was used to in working in
PEDS.
Ashley (13:58):
Different, but I bet you, I bet you there were
certain elements that were verymuch the same.
And I'm thinking about a parentcomes in with their sick child
and you know that the child isnot life or death sick and the
parent thinks that they areright.
The child has 104 temperatureand their cough sounds like it's
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from the depths of hell and butthe kid is sitting there
playing, looking at you, smilingand laughing, and the parent
thinks that it's the end of theworld.
And yet you know, because ofyour practice, this child's fine
, this child's playing andsmiling, and so you kind of have
to take what you see clinicallyand and boil it down for the
parent, who is very scared andconcerned, and I'm sure that a
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lot of those skills translatedover.
It's just a different topic,right, and it's a different type
of fear You're right, that'svery true.
So what does your schedule looklike?
What does a day working inaesthetics?
What does that look like?
Heather (14:58):
It's typically the majority of people getting Botox
.
I do have a few 15-minutefollow-up appointments where
somebody has had treatment acouple weeks before and we're
just you know, checking up tosee how they're doing, taking
some after photos, and thenprobably two to four people a
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day getting filler, which is anhour-long appointment because
they have to numb for it.
It doesn't start a little bitlonger, but I would say majority
are those 30-minute peoplegetting talked.
Ashley (15:34):
Are most of them geared up, ready to go excited about
it, or do you have a lot ofpatients that come in and they
are scared right?
Heather (15:43):
Yeah, especially if they haven't done it before.
I do kind of have to, you know,do some amping up of them if
they don't really know what toexpect, or even if they're just
new to me or they've never hadfiller in their lips before and
they're scared.
It's going to look crazy.
Those people are nervous, butthe majority of people are very
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excited to be there and ready togo.
Ashley (16:09):
Absolutely.
So what does kind of like aBotox appointment look like?
Do you talk to the patientabout what they expect every
single time, or do you have somepatients that walk in and you
know what they want and theyknow what they want, and so you
just get after it?
Heather (16:22):
Yeah, you get regular for sure.
If I know them, we kind ofcatch up and do our little girl
talk, but if not, typicallystart with taking some before
photos, asking them to explainto me where the areas on their
face they want me to try to workwith I do some marking.
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Let them know about how manyunits of Botox I think they need
.
Then we draw it up and make ourinjections.
It typically takes about twoweeks to kick in.
You want to avoid exercise forthe first 24 hours and like flat
for four hours.
So there's a few littleinstructions I have to give
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people who aren't regular.
You know that people aregetting it for a while.
You don't have to give thateducation every time, but for
somebody new you definitely wantto kind of warn them of the
things not to do.
Ashley (17:20):
Which is really good medical practice.
Patient education is a hugeelement and there is patient
education in aesthetics.
I think that's a really bigdeal huge element.
And there is patient educationand aesthetics.
I think that's a really bigdeal.
And I think a lot of times, thepatient education and
aesthetics is they really haveto listen to it.
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And I think a lot of times, youknow, patients will walk away
with their educational pamphletsand they'll say, okay, well,
you know, out the door, I'llleave it in my car under my seat
.
But that's why it's so importantto discuss these things with
them face-to-face and kind ofexplain why we're talking about
the things we're talking about.
It's huge.
It's not just in primary careor dermatology, it's in
aesthetics too, and I thinkthat's a really important
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element of it.
Heather, how do you managepatient expectations?
I think this is one of the mosttricky questions I've ever
wanted to ask an aestheticsprovider is when you have a
patient come in and they've seenall the TikToks and all the
videos of people with this, thatand the other done and they sit
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down and they start explainingthese things to you and you
realize that this is not goingto be what's best for this
person?
How do you manage thoseexpectations when they have
unrealistic goals?
Heather (18:38):
yes, and that happens a lot, as you can imagine.
Honestly, you have to be ableto communicate really well.
Yeah, to listen to what they'retelling me, because my idea of
what they're saying may be alittle bit different than the
way they think they'recommunicating it.
So this is so important to haveclear communication with the
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patient on what they'reexpecting or telling them.
Honestly, I don't think you'dbe a good candidate for this.
A lot of that TikTok and socialmedia stuff just really is
inaccurate as well?
Ashley (19:14):
do you have conversations about self-worth
in aesthetics at all?
Heather (19:20):
yeah, yeah.
I think as a woman, we're justso hard on ourselves and it's
almost kind of sad to see a lotof times when there is a flaw
that somebody is focusing on andwe are able to fix it for them,
it's almost instant how theireyes will find something else to
focus on that they won't fixnext.
So yeah it is a lot of tryingto build these women up and make
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them feel good about themselves.
It's really easy to pickourselves apart.
Ashley (19:47):
We see that in dermatology too, and you know,
at our dermatology practice wedo not do any aesthetics, which
I'm grateful that I have peoplelike you that I can send these
patients to, that know exactlywhat you're doing and have had
all the practice I have seen.
And I'd be interested to knowif the age of your clientele has
started to decrease.
Very, very young people, mostlygirls, but not always A lot of
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boys too coming in wanting Xremoved or Y quote, unquote
fixed I really try hard not touse that term.
None of us need anything fixed,right and a lot of them will
have that conversation aboutself-worth and about what
specifically is upsetting themabout that feature of their body
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, and a lot of times I will sendthem over to the aesthetics
professionals like you and haveyou guys also speak to them
about this.
And I'm just so grateful to knowthat the conversation for
self-worth and you probablyexperienced this in your
pediatrics clinic but thatconversation of self-worth and
you probably experienced this inyour pediatrics clinic but that
conversation of self-worththey're not going to just hear
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it one time from their mom ortheir dad or their grandma.
I hope that especially children, but also adults and older
adults, hear this conversationover and over amongst all of
their medical providers.
I agree, heather.
Tell me a story about when youhad a patient come in and you
were able to effectivelycommunicate with them and
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determine the area that theywanted some treatment on, and
tell me about how good it feltwhen they were so happy and
thrilled with the final outcome.
How did it feel?
Is it just like ultimately sosatisfying?
Heather (21:32):
Oh, absolutely, because you know those are times when
you do feel like you're reallymaking a difference, when you
know somebody had thisinsecurity and you were able to
get rid of it for them and youjust see their face light up.
So it's, like you know, a veryrewarding job in that sense.
Ashley (21:52):
Absolutely.
I want to pivot a little bitreal quick and ask you about
teamwork and aesthetics.
Do you work in a practice wherethere are other providers doing
different things or perhapsother providers doing the same
things?
What does that look like atyour clinic?
Heather (22:09):
Yeah, so it's a little bit of both.
I work at Dermalase MedicalSchool in Ocala and, as of right
now, there's three of us thatare injecting and then we have
two other girls that areestheticians, so they're doing
the facials and themicroneedling.
Three nurse practitioners aredoing the Botox and fillers,
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which is nice because it's veryhelpful to have other people to
bounce ideas off of.
I think in anything in red andblack.
It's kind of nice to have myfirst job in aesthetics.
I was working on my own, sothat was a little tough for me
to really learn new techniquesor be confident to try something
new when I was on my own,versus when you're with other
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people.
You can kind of be a littlemore confident to try this
technique or something that theydo that works for them, and
it's a really nice environmentto work in.
Ashley (23:09):
Yeah, I think it's.
You know, we're all capable.
We're all totally capable ofworking on our own as PAs.
We have to have a supervisingphysician, but a lot of times,
you know, the supervisingphysician isn't peering over
your shoulder the whole timeyou're doing the exam.
But you absolutely nailed itwhen you said that it is just so
much better working in a teamas opposed to working by
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yourself or bouncing off ideasor, you know, getting their
opinion on something thatperhaps they might disagree with
you on.
I cannot tell you the number oftimes I have spoken to a
colleague of mine specificallybecause I knew that colleague
was going to have a differentopinion.
And it's so valuable to mebecause I think like I think,
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and sometimes I can try to seethe opposite side of things.
But a lot of times it's sohelpful to have a trusted
colleague say you know well, yes, you could inject filler in
this part of her face, but ifthis is her concern, then why
don't you consider injectinghere instead?
It's going to feel strange, butI think you're going to achieve
a better result, something likethat you know.
So I think that collaborationpeople always think that it's
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collaboration because we agreeand collaboration because we
have a similar view.
But so much of it iscollaboration because I don't
agree with them and I want tohear what they have to say.
It's so great working as amember of a team, so tell me
about what the estheticians do.
Heather (24:33):
That's a little bit different perhaps from what
you're doing as an injector.
So they're doing chemical peels, they're doing microneedling
facials.
It's nice because they areexperts when it comes to like
skin care.
A lot of times I do bounceideas off of them if somebody is
having like a big rosaceaproblem or something that's not
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specific to my field, but theyknow more, so about the better
products we can use on that typeof patient, or just kind of
give them advice on what theycan do better for their skin.
Ashley (25:10):
Very cool.
I love hearing about who peoplework with and the elements of
the team and what differentiatesus from them, and it's very
interesting.
I love hearing about that.
Thank you for sharing, heather.
This is a tough question.
Are there any misconceptionsthat people have about aesthetic
medicine that you wish youcould just speak to and give
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them reassurance on?
Heather (25:35):
Well, I think it.
You know, obviously there are alot of people in the world that
take aesthetics a little toofar and maybe give us a little
bad advertising.
I would say, and I thinkthere's just so many people that
don't even realize you can do alittle bit and have nobody
notice, but it can definitelylook very natural if that's the
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look you're going for.
So that's kind of what I wishmore people would consider
instead of you know thinkingthat it's all giving us a bad
rap in that way.
Ashley (26:17):
Now, heather and I did not discuss a quality question,
but this brings up a reallygreat question that I have
received a few times oninterview myself.
The interviewer will see thatI've had a history in
dermatology, for example, as amedical assistant, and they will
say so.
Obviously, since you've workedin dermatology up until PA
school, you must want to be acosmetic dermatologist and I
would encourage you to reallyexplore your answer to that
(26:37):
question.
Yes, of course, I wasinterested in dermatology.
That is what I wanted to do,but I was so excited about PA
school and I was so excitedabout all of the different
things I was going to learn.
The fact that that interviewerpigeonholed me was something I
was really able to discuss andelaborate on in my own interview
.
Keep in mind that these qualityquestions are meant to help you
(26:58):
develop your own cache ofquestions to prepare for for
your own interviews, and thereare so many more resources on
shadowmenextcom, such as mockinterviews and personal
statement review, to help youanswer your own quality
questions.
I think that's great.
You know, you're absolutelyright, and in every field, in
every arena in life, there arepeople that take it too far.
(27:20):
You know, good things inmoderation.
That's what I'm telling myfour-year-old all the time.
Granted.
We're not talking about Botox.
We're talking about M&Ms andchocolate chip cookies, but good
things in moderation.
It's wonderful to treatourselves sometimes and we can
have fantastic outcomes becauseof it, and I think that I think
it's very important, obviouslyin moderation, just like
(27:42):
everything else.
Exercise good things inmoderation.
I spoke to a physical therapista couple episodes ago and I
think she would totally agreewith us.
You know she sees plenty ofpeople who have come in and they
have exercise-induced injuriesbecause they didn't, you know,
pertain to this theory that itis exercise is fantastic for
your body, but you can't overdoit.
You shouldn't overdo it,because then you're going to run
(28:03):
into some trouble.
You're going to run into someproblems.
Where do you see the aestheticsfield going in the next five to
10 years?
What do you propose?
Do you think it's just going tocontinue to remain the same?
Do you think there's going tobe new things out there that are
exciting for people to try?
Do you think we're going topull back on it really hard?
What are you seeing trending?
Heather (28:24):
I mean they're always coming out with new and exciting
things, so I think it's goingto keep progressing.
Obviously, we can only go sofar.
We're not plastic surgeons.
I think it probably will reacha point at some point, but I
think it'll be a long time fromnow, because they're just all
the time coming out with newproducts that can do these cool
(28:46):
and amazing things so that youcan avoid plastic surgery if
possible.
Ashley (28:51):
Yeah, absolutely.
That's exciting.
Heather, what advice would yougive to other nurses or nurse
practitioners or even just othermembers of the healthcare
network that might be interestedin transitioning into
aesthetics?
What would you recommend?
Heather (29:11):
I'd say do it, take the course, see how you feel about
it, if it's something for you ornot.
And obviously I think withanything in medicine you're
gonna not be super confidentright off the bat.
You kind of do have to get someexperience in before you feel
like you really know what you'redoing.
So just kind of stay the courseand get the practice in where
(29:35):
you can.
Ashley (29:36):
I think that's a great piece of advice and really good
recommendation.
Take the leap, see how you feel, see if you like it as with all
things, you never really knowuntil you're in there doing it.
But I think, as long as youreally research what you are
walking into and you talk to theappropriate people and you
shadow if you can, it's a greatfield and I love how it combines
art and medicine and you reallyget to make huge impacts in
(30:00):
people's lives.
So thank you and Heather, thankyou so much for joining us
today on shadow me next.
It has been absolutelyfantastic talking with you.
It's been really great.
Thank you so very much forlistening to this episode of
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