Jack sits down in Panama City with four educators, Rick Hengelbrok, Ben Thorwaldson, Stephanie Hengelbrok, and Haley Herold Espino, to explore how the education system is evolving beyond the traditional classroom. Together, they unpack the widening gap between curriculum and reality, and why mentorship, emotional development, and real-world readiness are becoming non-negotiable. The conversation dives into system-level pressures, shifting student needs, and how teachers today operate more like entrepreneurs, building culture, adapting on the fly, and designing experiences that actually serve the next generation. Zooming out, they connect these insights to larger questions around leadership, purpose, and the future of learning in a world driven by rapid change. At its core, the episode reframes teaching as a craft rooted in influence, adaptability, and helping young people grow into thinkers, not just test-takers.
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