December 4, 2023 • 27 mins
Have you ever wondered why healing seems so elusive, so nonlinear? You're not alone. In our latest episode, we are here to demystify the complexities of the healing journey. We're pulling back the curtain on this ongoing process, underscoring the importance of revisiting old wounds and addressing our society's lack of grief support. Let's debunk the myth that healing is a one-time magical fix and explore its true nature—an enduring journey demanding tools, support, and understanding.
But it's not just about acknowledging the healing process, there's another crucial ingredient—self-compassion. We're diving into the transformative power of treating yourself with kindness and understanding, drawing from insights by experts such as Dr. Kristin Neff and Sarah Peyton. We'll be talking about the discomfort that inevitably arises during healing and how vital it is to sit with these feelings rather than letting them feed negative narratives. Finally, hear how keeping a healing journal and reflecting on your personal journey can keep you accountable. Remember, your journey toward healing begins with self-compassion and personal accountability. Join us, and let's embark on this journey together.
Resources from this episode:
Dr. Kristin Neff
https://self-compassion.org/
https://ccare.stanford.edu/research/wiki/compassion-definitions/self-compassion/
https://self-compassion.org/the-three-elements-of-self-compassion-2/
Sarah Peyton
https://sarahpeyton.com/10-key-concepts-of-resonant-healing/
https://www.shamansafterdark.com
https://instagram.com/shamansafterdark
https://www.facebook.com/shamansafterdark
Bri's website: https://treehearthealing.com
Tina's website: https://3crowshealing.com
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Bri (00:07):
Hello illuminated souls.
I'm Bri Andreoni.
Tina (00:10):
And I'm Tina DeAmore.
Welcome to Shaman's After Dark.
Today we'll be discussing theprocess of healing and how it's
not linear but more circular,absolutely.
Bri (00:20):
We hear a lot about healing in spiritual circles these days
, whether it's energy healingcircle or some kind of spiritual
process.
There are so many differenttools, modalities and pathways
in which we can pursue ourhealing.
Sometimes it gets a littleromanticized, like as if it's an
easy process and doing thiswork is some kind of easy,
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magical easing of our trauma.
Speaking from personalexperience and people that I've
worked with, it's rarely thecase that I've ever seen.
Sometimes we even see somehealers claiming in one session
release your trauma.
I know I can speak for both ofus that we dislike saying this,
because that is rarely the case.
I think it's something that isindividual to each person and
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unwinds in its own unique wayfor everyone.
Tina (01:07):
It really does.
When you're actually releasingtrauma from your body, it's not
a pleasant experience.
If it's a big trauma, itdoesn't usually feel safe to do
one session.
Maybe your body releases sometrauma and that's great.
But you have to process theemotional and cognitive levels
too.
When we're authentically doingthe deep healing work, it can
often feel like a dumpster firegoing down a stupe pill and your
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brakes won't work.
Bri (01:33):
I've been spraised that myself.
Tina (01:36):
So healing is a process.
Some might say it's circular,but it's definitely not linear.
I would like to be right.
It would be a great thing ifit'd be like oh, that nice and
calm line, I know it's comingwhen it is coming, but that's
just not the way it really goes.
We can't control the process.
We have to flow with it.
I think in some ways that's alesson for us to really have
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those tools in being able tocope with the hard parts of
healing.
You might think you're pastsomething and then a situation
occurs and then you're back of,surprisingly, in a space that
you thought you'd settled withyour psyche and your body.
But that's the signal thatthere's more work to be done.
It's nothing to beat yourselfup about.
That's just the healing processRight.
Bri (02:23):
I think the question comes up Is healing ever really done?
Because when you come backwhere you're like I've done all
this deep work and then yourealize, ah, it's still the
escaping wound that.
Tina (02:31):
I thought it was scrapped over.
Bri (02:33):
We've made progress and something is triggering and you
find yourself back in this spaceor some other emotion that you
thought you had addressed, butnow, oh look, there's anger
behind that grief, or there'ssomething else there that just
didn't come up at the time.
So I think it's really hard tosay.
I think it's unique andindividual.
But if you circle back to aplace you thought was healed, I
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think when you can look at itagain, you're more able to
identify and acknowledge thatthe situation or person, that
old wound was triggered and it'sstill living within you in a
way.
But if you're really doing thework, you know how some tools,
you have something to say.
Oh look, I can look at this andI'm a little more removed.
I'm not so full in the traumaresponse now.
I'm a little more like I cansay wait a minute, I understand
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what's coming up in me.
I have the way to now settlemyself or deal with this without
going into a doom spiral orletting it kind of take over
your life like an old scar,being curious about it, Like we
can come back to this space andsay there's more work to do here
and coming in with a morecurious heart instead of being
really caught up in the oldtrauma that you've been trying
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to heal.
So it's not Maybe necessarilythe open oozy wound.
It's not like really bleedingand raw.
It's you know how healed partof it.
It's kind of like that scapthat got picked a little bit and
you're like, oh, that reallystill, that still kind of hurts
and that's still here for me,but it's not.
It's not what it was like.
You could see some of theprogress that you're making and
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it doesn't have as much powerover you as it may have in the
past prior to doing that healingwork around your.
Whatever You're trying, toresolve.
Tina (04:06):
Thank you for saying all of that.
It makes a lot of sense, Ithink, for hopefully for people
that are listening.
I mean, in our society, whenwe're experiencing some trauma
or wounding that's happened, wearen't really given the space to
address the issue like withcuriosity and all of these
beautiful tools that we'retalking about.
I mean, when we're a kid we aretypically given the tools.
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We're lucky if we are giventhat support or time to help us.
We don't really live in aculture where there are
accessible elders that recognizewe need support.
We don't really have Supportfor grief.
It's not really, it's justbeing encouraged, but it's.
It hasn't been for a long time.
So we're essentiallyuncomfortable with grief and
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there is a strange setting of atimeline for grief.
We can't actually control thatprocess.
I knew somebody that once saidI've allowed myself to grieve my
mother for this amount of timeand then it's done.
And I sought to my Sather,thinking to myself and I wasn't
judging her.
I'm like wow, that's a lot ofpressure.
Yeah, you know, it doesn'tnormally operate in a way that
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we can say, okay, now I'm done.
Bri (05:11):
It is just Grief and well, and also, too, I think,
sometimes we're because of theway we live in society now.
Well, we don't get to reallyhave safe space to express what
we're going through.
Sometimes in a held environment, you know people either putting
their opinion on it or you'retelling you how you should be
feeling or reacting.
I'm also sometimes, dependingon the trauma situation or
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whatever is occurring for you,you start to disassociate and
you start not allowing yourselfto feel the feelings or things
come up, because it'suncomfortable, it's not
acceptable, it's not okay,especially for women.
We're not allowed to Be a hotmess.
We, you know you got to be thewhat mom and the wife and the
working woman and you're, youknow You're playing all these
roles and you have to keep ittogether, even though you might
be screaming inside becauseyou're experiencing grief or
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trauma or something else, or,just now, repressed Emotion like
you're not allowed to be angry,you know, or have boundaries
and say no because heaven forbid, you say no and ever.
Tina (06:06):
But we stand up for ourselves and be you know a
labeled word.
Bri (06:11):
That's not so nice.
Tina (06:12):
Exactly, and if we're angry, you know.
So yeah, there's a lot ofpressure.
Bri (06:15):
I mean, I think men feel pressured in different ways, but
absolutely do not not cry, youknow, like not share that, or to
be seen as vulnerable, like Ithink men Don't get that luxury
sometimes.
They have to be impervious andthe hero and the strong one.
And you know, I think there's alot of again either
dissociating or stuffing it alldown, and so we, it gets shoved
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into our body, it almost becomesits own intrusion.
Tina (06:38):
Yeah, it's in there.
Bri (06:39):
And and then when you start unpacking it, you're like oh my
gosh, here's my wounded child,and then here's my wounded
teenager, here's my wounded self, and all these parts, and they
show up at different times.
And once you start doing thework, all this starts starts
showing up and you're like waita minute, I did not sign up.
Tina (06:56):
And now.
Bri (06:57):
I got a room full of your wounded selves and different
parts and stages of your healingand her children just standing
there going.
Tina (07:03):
But I you know, and so I think what's healthy is to allow
ourselves to process this asmuch as we need to, you know,
not putting a set timeline onhealing.
I mean, if you're committed tohealing, you might be doing it
for the rest of your life insome way, absolutely.
But if we avoid or bypass ordissociate, it'll catch up with
us and bite us eventually.
Bri (07:25):
So might as well Not scoot around it, for you know, and not
anybody else's timeline, meetyour own timeline, exactly where
you're at and and I think it'sso important to have patience
and compassion for ourselves andallowing ourselves to move
through what we need to movethrough, without judgment or so
criticism.
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I think we're our own worstcritics, they're our own worst
judges and being like you know,we're trying to Present
ourselves to the world in oneway when we're still trying to
do this big work and and weshould honor our process.
So you know facing, you knowwhere we are in the moment,
without shame, without guilt.
An example being you say whereI'm at is okay, I'm okay being
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this hot mess as a dumpster firegoing down the hill right now.
I'm safe, I'm okay.
It feels horrible and it'sscary, you know, but you do in
the work and it's also importantwhen you're doing that work to
really have a good supportsystem.
It's with people that you feelsafe, or even a professional,
you know, like whether it's atherapist, psychologist.
You know some place that you'rejust also getting the support
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that you need to work through itand a constructive way, so that
it doesn't just Become thisnever-ending loop of suffering
that you're going through.
You're doing the work, work atyour own pace, in ways that
allow you to feel safe and inyour body.
While doing it and I love thisquote by Pima children is
allowing herself to feel withoutshame or guilt and honoring
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what comes up.
I love that kind of sums thatup.
Yes like you know, we don'thave to have a story around it
either.
We can just say I'm feeling Sad, I'm feeling grief, I'm feeling
anger and just be with that Nothaving a story about oh, it's
because of this.
Tina (09:05):
But I think what's also important Bree is is to yeah,
you're in the healing process,but it's okay to take a breather
every once in a while.
They just be like okay, I knowa little break from this and I'm
gonna do something a little fun, just kind of get my mind off
of all these things and comeback to this.
Yeah, schedule joy if you haveto, and and come back to it when
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, when you're ready to, becauseit's gonna be there and and so,
like I love the patience andcompassion you just mentioned, I
think compassion for yourselfand Empathy for yourself is such
a key to healing.
Supporting ourselves as wenavigate through it is so key,
and I think we've also talkedabout this to you, bree.
(09:46):
But accountability, ownershipfor our healing process, that
means we're taking our powerback when you're no longer, you
know, the victim, your story,we're more the hero.
Yes, it may have have happenedto you and I don't want to
victim blame.
I really get turned off by that.
But turning the story in a waybecause we do tell ourselves
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stories In a way that we'redoing it and we're making a
decision to grow despite thediscomfort and despite what
happened, is essential.
The thing is, if you're stuck,then it's meant to be painful,
just if you.
If you stay stuck, it's goingto be painful, um, but if you
choose to make some big changesin your inner healing, that's
also going to be uncomfortabletoo.
The risk is moving into theunknown, which may feel, you
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know, really uncomfortable for atime, but it may also include
growth, progress and improvement.
But if you stay stuck, morepain is what's guaranteed.
It's guaranteed.
So take it, takes trust andfaith when you're yourself to
make these big changes and youknow, I think the healing
process deserves a good pat onthe back for yourself.
Bri (10:51):
Yeah, because we don't do that Absolutely.
You know, the gold star is fordoing the work you know it's.
We don't reward ourselves enoughfor saying, hey, I'm doing this
work and it's uncomfortable,but also allowing ourselves to
see where we have grown and whatwe have healed or what, where
we have taken our power backfrom whatever we're trying to
overcome or release or movethrough.
And I think Doing the healingwork is, like you said, is that
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process of reclaiming ourpersonal power in our own
sovereignty as an individualbeing and overall connected, and
we are all part of this greatweb of life.
And if everyone really workedon their healing, oh gosh,
imagine the shift that wouldhappen.
But you can't.
You have to be ready to do itand Sometimes you're not.
Maybe not in this lifetime.
It's just not the space whereyou're ready to do that and and
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that's okay, you know.
You just meet yourself whereyou're at and and do it where
you can and trying to keepmoving forward.
You know, part of Reclaiming apersonal power is, as you said,
taking accountability For doingthe work and not give your power
away.
And I think we see both haveseen this happen and sometimes
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If someone's going to a shamanicpractitioner, energy healer,
it's like you want someone towave this magic wand, yes and
and it make you better, like fixme, and not taking
accountability that yes, we cando energy healing, we could do
the shamanic healing all day.
But if you aren't actuallyintegrating that, taking
accountability and alsocontinuing to work past that
session, you're not going tobenefit from it because you're
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not taking ownership andstanding in your own power and
in in your own healing process,because sometimes Some people
are a little comfortable beingin that unwell space because
it's safe, for whatever reason.
Tina (12:34):
It's so true, and I could go on a little tangent about
that, which I'll have to justcontain myself not to do, but
yes, it's, I love when we wereplanning this particular episode
.
I loved what you said 90% isyou, 10% is the shamanic
practitioner, energy worker.
We are creating the shifts, butyou need to receive them and in
order to receive them, you'vegot to do the work and if you've
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got assignments, to integratesomething you know, you got to
do it.
You got to take it seriously.
Some people just don't want totake responsibility, they don't
do any of it.
And guess what?
There's no change.
There's really no change.
It's like.
It's like putting something ina jar, that's closed.
Bri (13:12):
Well, it's like putting a band-aid on an infected wound.
You're not actually addressingwhat the infection right like.
You're just covering it up, soyou're pretending it's not there
, it's not the real.
Yeah, you know it's, it's all ofthese things your doctor, your
mental health, your, you know,your physical health, all of
these things there's justwhether you're working with
energy workers and and othersupport tools.
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All are.
These are tools for theindividual to use in their
healing process.
But you're you are still theindividual responsible for doing
the work or taking the medicineor changing the diet or making
those shifts for yourself, andwe are creatures of habit and
sometimes really hard to changethe habits we're in because
those are comfortable, safeplaces right one thing at a time
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yeah and it is a way of takingyour power back, rather than
having your healer do all thisyou know stuff for you and just
kind of not doing much, orhaving your doctor test your
blood or having you know goingto a mental health professional
and talking about it.
You've got to make those changeswithin your life for really
there to be a shift exactly, andyou know we talked earlier
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about self-compassion andempathy for the self, and I just
want to take a second like whatdoes self-compassion mean?
Because I think we hear it alot, but what does it really
mean to do?
And it's not just like, hey,I'm going to do the thing that
makes me feel good for no reasonright, like it's not it you
know, like self-care likesometimes I think what does that
really mean?
and so I'm just going to read acouple deaf share, a couple
definitions from Dr Kristin Neff, who's done a lot of work and
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research around this, and we canhave a link to her one of her
papers on the website if you'reinterested in learning a little
more.
So her definition ofself-compassion is
self-compassion is being kindand understanding when
confronted with personalfeelings, honoring and accepting
your humanness, comprised ofself-kindness, common humanity
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and mindfulness.
Self-compassion is valuingone's own pursuit of happiness
and aversion towards suffering,and behaving in accordance with
those values, transformingnegative thought habits,
attitudes and emotional biases.
Self-compassion is notself-indulgence.
Feeling sorry for the self orself pity are ruminating on
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personal entitlement An exampleof like what the self lacks or
deserves.
Self-compassion is sort of aparadox, as is not really about
focusing on the self, but aboutconsidering oneself as one of
the sentient beings among allothers towards which it is
worthy to dedicate one's ownenergy To the avoidance of
suffering and the promotion ofhappiness.
I love that and I just likethose definitions.
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Why I really wanted to sharethem?
Because I think it's a nice wayof Phrasing it and giving a
little more clarity about whatwe need when we're talking about
self-compassion.
Tina (15:52):
I love those definitions.
I love dr Krista Neff.
We will have links for this.
I also want to talk about SarahPeyton, who talks about warm
accompaniment in her book realresident self.
She talks about how everyonehas an inner voice and how we
can approach ourselves In a kindway.
When we speak to ourselves, alot of us so speak to ourselves
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critically, or we wouldn't saythe things to other people that
we do to ourselves.
So this is a, this is a form ofself-compaction and it makes a
big difference in the healingprocess as a practice.
You know how can I besupportive to myself right now?
You always want to be askingthat question, so I'm gonna
quote Sarah Peyton, who said inthe Western world there are many
religious traditions that tellus that self warmth is selfish
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or sinful.
We are often encouraged toproject warmth outward as
compassion for others or for theworld, but warned that we
shouldn't turn too much of thiswarmth toward the self.
In my humble opinion.
She says there is an absence ofunderstanding in Western
culture about how deeply harmfulLoneliness is for humans and
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how important it is that welearn to cultivate warmth for
ourselves.
I call this nervous systemstate of not receiving enough
warmth and not havinginternalized a loving,
resonating self-witness, alarmedaloneness.
Understanding how and why humanbrains need warmth is a key
reason why resonant healingworks to repattern our nervous
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systems towards kindness andresilience.
Self-warmth is about theintegration and internalization
of experiences of affection,presence, understanding and
kindness that comes to us fromothers.
If we haven't received this asyoung ones, we can build it
ourselves through cultivatingour resonating self-witness.
Really like that.
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Yeah, I love it.
Oh, we have links to this inour website.
Bri (17:40):
You know it's, and I think sometimes too we're
uncomfortable sitting with theuncomfortable feelings that come
up when we're doing our healingwork or shadow work or we're
trying to deepen our connectionto our whole self, and I think
we we don't realize that studiesshow we only experience an
emotion for 90 seconds.
Yeah, so if you just allowyourself to be like, this is 90
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seconds of discomfort.
I mean, think about it.
If it's lasting longer than 90seconds, you're feeding it with
a story, you're giving it anarrative and you're giving it
life.
It's like adding fuel to thefire.
You're stuck in a loop.
It's, you know, your thoughts.
They're getting Involved andleading you down that doom
spiral and creating thisnarrative and this story and
feeding it.
It's like when you startthinking about something that
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upset you and no one's there butyou keep beating it and you get
more worked up and you can feelthat the you know physiological
response in your body.
You're like I'm getting reallyfrustrated or angry, but it's
really you having a conversationand dialogue with yourself.
That's that's feeding thatemotion.
So if we can just bear witness,this is making me very
uncomfortable.
I'm very angry right now.
Or just note, you know, it'slike when you're meditating and
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you're like thoughts and comingback to the breath.
It's like saying anger, comingback to the breath.
This is here and Making spacefor it without feeding it and
just letting it go, flow and goand that's hard, yeah, that is
an intentional process andpractice one would have to
create for yourself.
Tina (19:03):
Right, I think they're going okay.
Am I feeding this emotion withthoughts or, you know, because
it's true, if it lasts more than90 seconds, then what are you
doing to feed that fire?
Bri (19:13):
Yeah, we are responsible for our own reaction to what
others bring to us.
So if we're in an argument withsomeone and we're getting more
and more upset because we'refeeding that conversation, you
can't make it their fault, right?
You are still your own personwho gets to choose to continue
to be in that situation orcontinue that argument or
continue to be in that Place.
That is not well for you inwhatever way.
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And so there is this narrativehappening in the back of the
brain around this conversation,that right, that's happening, or
whatever situation we findourselves in.
So being able to say I'm gonnastep away, I'm gonna step away
for a minute without feedingthat and just see what happens.
Tina (19:51):
I love what Brene Brown says.
She said you can talk tosomebody saying, if you're upset
about something you said, thestory I'm telling myself is this
and it makes us a little bitvulnerable, which I think is
really needed for goodrelationships.
And the story I'm tellingmyself is this, and that really
just tells both parties thatit's not something you're
married to, but this is why it'sa burden for you.
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And we all tell ourselvesstories.
We do.
Bri (20:17):
And also others tell us stories that we adopt about
ourselves.
Yes, so it's not always ourtruth.
It's a narrative that someonegave us around ourselves, and I
think this happens as children.
We're told something around ourbehavior or how we show up or
something that we do, and thenour internal narrative adopts
that story and feeds it and thenwe kind of absorb it Exactly,
Instead of saying I refuse toaccept your story about me in
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this story.
Tina (20:40):
Right, and it takes a lot of work.
I mean, you can say I'm anxiousabout this and then all of a
sudden we'll go down the rabbithole of thoughts and doom spiral
, like you said, and create abig annihilation story for
ourselves.
But you can also catch yourself.
You can say all right, I feelanxiety right now and I'm just
going to sit with this, and it'sreally not easy to do in a
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moment.
Bri (21:03):
But it can be done.
It can be done and I thinkresisting, allowing ourselves to
feel something, prolongs that.
Yeah, if you're going todisassociate, I'm not feeling
the thing.
I'm going to shove it down andput it back in my mind and I'm
not going to deal with thiscoming up.
It's still there, yeah,unresolved.
So just like when you startmining your trauma or your
woundedness or you're doing yourown healing and your work and
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then you're like oh my god,here's my wounded child, because
the wounded child didn't get toexpress that, or there's
something there, so it builds upwithin us, in our body, we're
carrying it, so it's justprolonging us to carry that and
adds to our suffering.
Tina (21:40):
Like how much Shundrum says fuel the feelings and drop
the story.
Bri (21:43):
Yes, exactly so you know.
Tina (21:44):
Allow yourself to be with it, Sit with it for a minute as
uncomfortable it is and this isreally, really important to say
If it's too much to sit with,you've got to have tools to be
able to sit with it, Becausesome people, some things in the
experiences they may have, itmight be so too much to be in
the body while you're sittingwith it so you might need to
have someone else help you withit.
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By that I mean a healer orbehavior health professional to
help give you some tools to beable to sit through something
that's been on process.
Bri (22:14):
That's really big, and I've heard this a long time ago and
I don't know the origin of thequote or the saying, but it was
always resonant for me Is thatSaying I am not the voice inside
my head and when you realizethat you are free, mm-hmm.
When you realize you are notdefined, you are that who's
observing, like you're behindthat, but you're not.
That narrative, that negativecredit inside of your head,
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that's just another eitherprotector part or version of
ourselves that keeps us, triesto keep us safe in some way, but
it's.
It also tears us apart.
Sometimes that critic is justthere and keeps us from doing
things or tells us we can't andkeeps us in our little box.
Tina (22:49):
And this could be all unconscious to.
We don't even know.
That voice is like chatteringback there.
You know mine is constantlycheck.
Bri (22:58):
It's never ending narrative all the time, even when I'm
trying to go to sleep.
For me I'm like, oh yeah, I'mnot this voice is running the
side of my head.
Tina (23:07):
I know we think we are.
Bri (23:08):
Yeah, we are so, tina, what does spirit have to say about
the process of healing?
They?
Tina (23:14):
said, whether human or non-human, a spirit who chooses
to become embodied on earthunderstands the expansiveness of
the growth being undertaken.
This seems to be forgotten as ayoung one grows, human or not,
and so each challenge andgrievous Experience, as well as
the joys and celebrations, arethe healing process embodied.
Your embodied life in yourworld is not an easy one, and it
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is not built to be easy.
It is a continuous unfoldingand a discovery of oneself.
A Good portion of the ones whoreside in the spirit world have
walked the earth, which is whythese wise ones are available
for support.
Many of us, such as the one whois speaking now, have walked
the other worlds for thousandsof years, and so the more
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intense experiences are nearlyforgotten, but our compassion is
not.
It is for you humans to havecompassion for yourselves when
you encounter troubles, forthese healing experiences are
best traveled with patience andself-love, although we envelop
you in love as well.
Your own self accompaniment isthe highest healing bomb one can
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offer, that's beautiful.
What did they say about this foryou?
Bri (24:23):
So my helping spirit said Everyone's healing process is
unique and their own.
You can't compare your journeyto another's and comes in its
own time.
You live in a time where manysuffer in silence or ashamed for
not getting over it.
You are pushed to conform toothers think your healing
process should look like, or forit to occur within a specific
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time frame.
How can one truly heal ifyou're not allowed to experience
your own embodied healingprocess at your own pace?
How can you heal if you hideaway from the uncomfortable
emotions?
Healing is challenging and raw.
It stings to look deeply intoyour wounds, but when you clean
them out and remove the debristhat keeps them from closing,
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then you are making space fortrue healing to happen.
Healing is a powerful teacherand it frequently challenges you
to look at the way you chooseto show up in the world.
Healing is possible if you arewilling to sit with your truths
without judgment and acompassionate heart towards
yourself.
Trust in yourself and giveyourself the space to heal.
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Know that you are supported byspirit and your ancestors.
Tina (25:30):
Both of these messages were so warm and full of
compassion.
Could you feel that?
Bri (25:35):
Yes, absolutely, it's beautiful.
We have a two-part journeyprompt for this episode.
The first journey is journey toyour helping spirits and asked
to be given fresh eyes on theprocess of your healing at this
time.
Ask to be shown the power youhave in your healing process.
Step 2 Journey and ask pleaseshow me a ceremony that I can
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perform to celebrate myself andmy healing process.
Tina (26:05):
Thank you, brie.
You know I think it might behelpful for listeners, if they
do this two-step journey process, to journal about how, what
they got on these journeys andhow, how far they've come on
this your own healing path, yeah, and reflect on how you've
taken accountability in your ownhealing journey.
So that's something that youcan add to this as well.
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If you really want to delveinto this piece, which we hope
you do, and you can find theseprompts on shaman's after dark
calm, we hope you drop us a lineand you can find Brie on tree
heart healing, calm and myselfat three pros healing with a
numeral three, and there arealso links to our personal pages
at shaman's after dark calmuntil next time.
Bri (26:48):
Everyone, keep on shining your light.
Tina (26:56):
Greetings, illuminated souls.
Due to the increased demands ofour everyday lives, shaman's
after dark is taking a hiatus.
Thanks for listening.
Until next time, keep onshining your light.
Hello illuminated souls.
I'm Bri Andreoni.
Tina (00:10):
And I'm Tina DeAmore.
Welcome to Shaman's After Dark.
Today we'll be discussing theprocess of healing and how it's
not linear but more circular,absolutely.
Bri (00:20):
We hear a lot about healing in spiritual circles these days
, whether it's energy healingcircle or some kind of spiritual
process.
There are so many differenttools, modalities and pathways
in which we can pursue ourhealing.
Sometimes it gets a littleromanticized, like as if it's an
easy process and doing thiswork is some kind of easy,
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magical easing of our trauma.
Speaking from personalexperience and people that I've
worked with, it's rarely thecase that I've ever seen.
Sometimes we even see somehealers claiming in one session
release your trauma.
I know I can speak for both ofus that we dislike saying this,
because that is rarely the case.
I think it's something that isindividual to each person and
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unwinds in its own unique wayfor everyone.
Tina (01:07):
It really does.
When you're actually releasingtrauma from your body, it's not
a pleasant experience.
If it's a big trauma, itdoesn't usually feel safe to do
one session.
Maybe your body releases sometrauma and that's great.
But you have to process theemotional and cognitive levels
too.
When we're authentically doingthe deep healing work, it can
often feel like a dumpster firegoing down a stupe pill and your
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brakes won't work.
Bri (01:33):
I've been spraised that myself.
Tina (01:36):
So healing is a process.
Some might say it's circular,but it's definitely not linear.
I would like to be right.
It would be a great thing ifit'd be like oh, that nice and
calm line, I know it's comingwhen it is coming, but that's
just not the way it really goes.
We can't control the process.
We have to flow with it.
I think in some ways that's alesson for us to really have
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those tools in being able tocope with the hard parts of
healing.
You might think you're pastsomething and then a situation
occurs and then you're back of,surprisingly, in a space that
you thought you'd settled withyour psyche and your body.
But that's the signal thatthere's more work to be done.
It's nothing to beat yourselfup about.
That's just the healing processRight.
Bri (02:23):
I think the question comes up Is healing ever really done?
Because when you come backwhere you're like I've done all
this deep work and then yourealize, ah, it's still the
escaping wound that.
Tina (02:31):
I thought it was scrapped over.
Bri (02:33):
We've made progress and something is triggering and you
find yourself back in this spaceor some other emotion that you
thought you had addressed, butnow, oh look, there's anger
behind that grief, or there'ssomething else there that just
didn't come up at the time.
So I think it's really hard tosay.
I think it's unique andindividual.
But if you circle back to aplace you thought was healed, I
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think when you can look at itagain, you're more able to
identify and acknowledge thatthe situation or person, that
old wound was triggered and it'sstill living within you in a
way.
But if you're really doing thework, you know how some tools,
you have something to say.
Oh look, I can look at this andI'm a little more removed.
I'm not so full in the traumaresponse now.
I'm a little more like I cansay wait a minute, I understand
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what's coming up in me.
I have the way to now settlemyself or deal with this without
going into a doom spiral orletting it kind of take over
your life like an old scar,being curious about it, Like we
can come back to this space andsay there's more work to do here
and coming in with a morecurious heart instead of being
really caught up in the oldtrauma that you've been trying
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to heal.
So it's not Maybe necessarilythe open oozy wound.
It's not like really bleedingand raw.
It's you know how healed partof it.
It's kind of like that scapthat got picked a little bit and
you're like, oh, that reallystill, that still kind of hurts
and that's still here for me,but it's not.
It's not what it was like.
You could see some of theprogress that you're making and
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it doesn't have as much powerover you as it may have in the
past prior to doing that healingwork around your.
Whatever You're trying, toresolve.
Tina (04:06):
Thank you for saying all of that.
It makes a lot of sense, Ithink, for hopefully for people
that are listening.
I mean, in our society, whenwe're experiencing some trauma
or wounding that's happened, wearen't really given the space to
address the issue like withcuriosity and all of these
beautiful tools that we'retalking about.
I mean, when we're a kid we aretypically given the tools.
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We're lucky if we are giventhat support or time to help us.
We don't really live in aculture where there are
accessible elders that recognizewe need support.
We don't really have Supportfor grief.
It's not really, it's justbeing encouraged, but it's.
It hasn't been for a long time.
So we're essentiallyuncomfortable with grief and
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there is a strange setting of atimeline for grief.
We can't actually control thatprocess.
I knew somebody that once saidI've allowed myself to grieve my
mother for this amount of timeand then it's done.
And I sought to my Sather,thinking to myself and I wasn't
judging her.
I'm like wow, that's a lot ofpressure.
Yeah, you know, it doesn'tnormally operate in a way that
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we can say, okay, now I'm done.
Bri (05:11):
It is just Grief and well, and also, too, I think,
sometimes we're because of theway we live in society now.
Well, we don't get to reallyhave safe space to express what
we're going through.
Sometimes in a held environment, you know people either putting
their opinion on it or you'retelling you how you should be
feeling or reacting.
I'm also sometimes, dependingon the trauma situation or
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whatever is occurring for you,you start to disassociate and
you start not allowing yourselfto feel the feelings or things
come up, because it'suncomfortable, it's not
acceptable, it's not okay,especially for women.
We're not allowed to Be a hotmess.
We, you know you got to be thewhat mom and the wife and the
working woman and you're, youknow You're playing all these
roles and you have to keep ittogether, even though you might
be screaming inside becauseyou're experiencing grief or
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trauma or something else, or,just now, repressed Emotion like
you're not allowed to be angry,you know, or have boundaries
and say no because heaven forbid, you say no and ever.
Tina (06:06):
But we stand up for ourselves and be you know a
labeled word.
Bri (06:11):
That's not so nice.
Tina (06:12):
Exactly, and if we're angry, you know.
So yeah, there's a lot ofpressure.
Bri (06:15):
I mean, I think men feel pressured in different ways, but
absolutely do not not cry, youknow, like not share that, or to
be seen as vulnerable, like Ithink men Don't get that luxury
sometimes.
They have to be impervious andthe hero and the strong one.
And you know, I think there's alot of again either
dissociating or stuffing it alldown, and so we, it gets shoved
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into our body, it almost becomesits own intrusion.
Tina (06:38):
Yeah, it's in there.
Bri (06:39):
And and then when you start unpacking it, you're like oh my
gosh, here's my wounded child,and then here's my wounded
teenager, here's my wounded self, and all these parts, and they
show up at different times.
And once you start doing thework, all this starts starts
showing up and you're like waita minute, I did not sign up.
Tina (06:56):
And now.
Bri (06:57):
I got a room full of your wounded selves and different
parts and stages of your healingand her children just standing
there going.
Tina (07:03):
But I you know, and so I think what's healthy is to allow
ourselves to process this asmuch as we need to, you know,
not putting a set timeline onhealing.
I mean, if you're committed tohealing, you might be doing it
for the rest of your life insome way, absolutely.
But if we avoid or bypass ordissociate, it'll catch up with
us and bite us eventually.
Bri (07:25):
So might as well Not scoot around it, for you know, and not
anybody else's timeline, meetyour own timeline, exactly where
you're at and and I think it'sso important to have patience
and compassion for ourselves andallowing ourselves to move
through what we need to movethrough, without judgment or so
criticism.
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I think we're our own worstcritics, they're our own worst
judges and being like you know,we're trying to Present
ourselves to the world in oneway when we're still trying to
do this big work and and weshould honor our process.
So you know facing, you knowwhere we are in the moment,
without shame, without guilt.
An example being you say whereI'm at is okay, I'm okay being
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this hot mess as a dumpster firegoing down the hill right now.
I'm safe, I'm okay.
It feels horrible and it'sscary, you know, but you do in
the work and it's also importantwhen you're doing that work to
really have a good supportsystem.
It's with people that you feelsafe, or even a professional,
you know, like whether it's atherapist, psychologist.
You know some place that you'rejust also getting the support
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that you need to work through itand a constructive way, so that
it doesn't just Become thisnever-ending loop of suffering
that you're going through.
You're doing the work, work atyour own pace, in ways that
allow you to feel safe and inyour body.
While doing it and I love thisquote by Pima children is
allowing herself to feel withoutshame or guilt and honoring
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what comes up.
I love that kind of sums thatup.
Yes like you know, we don'thave to have a story around it
either.
We can just say I'm feeling Sad, I'm feeling grief, I'm feeling
anger and just be with that Nothaving a story about oh, it's
because of this.
Tina (09:05):
But I think what's also important Bree is is to yeah,
you're in the healing process,but it's okay to take a breather
every once in a while.
They just be like okay, I knowa little break from this and I'm
gonna do something a little fun, just kind of get my mind off
of all these things and comeback to this.
Yeah, schedule joy if you haveto, and and come back to it when
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, when you're ready to, becauseit's gonna be there and and so,
like I love the patience andcompassion you just mentioned, I
think compassion for yourselfand Empathy for yourself is such
a key to healing.
Supporting ourselves as wenavigate through it is so key,
and I think we've also talkedabout this to you, bree.
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But accountability, ownershipfor our healing process, that
means we're taking our powerback when you're no longer, you
know, the victim, your story,we're more the hero.
Yes, it may have have happenedto you and I don't want to
victim blame.
I really get turned off by that.
But turning the story in a waybecause we do tell ourselves
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stories In a way that we'redoing it and we're making a
decision to grow despite thediscomfort and despite what
happened, is essential.
The thing is, if you're stuck,then it's meant to be painful,
just if you.
If you stay stuck, it's goingto be painful, um, but if you
choose to make some big changesin your inner healing, that's
also going to be uncomfortabletoo.
The risk is moving into theunknown, which may feel, you
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know, really uncomfortable for atime, but it may also include
growth, progress and improvement.
But if you stay stuck, morepain is what's guaranteed.
It's guaranteed.
So take it, takes trust andfaith when you're yourself to
make these big changes and youknow, I think the healing
process deserves a good pat onthe back for yourself.
Bri (10:51):
Yeah, because we don't do that Absolutely.
You know, the gold star is fordoing the work you know it's.
We don't reward ourselves enoughfor saying, hey, I'm doing this
work and it's uncomfortable,but also allowing ourselves to
see where we have grown and whatwe have healed or what, where
we have taken our power backfrom whatever we're trying to
overcome or release or movethrough.
And I think Doing the healingwork is, like you said, is that
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process of reclaiming ourpersonal power in our own
sovereignty as an individualbeing and overall connected, and
we are all part of this greatweb of life.
And if everyone really workedon their healing, oh gosh,
imagine the shift that wouldhappen.
But you can't.
You have to be ready to do itand Sometimes you're not.
Maybe not in this lifetime.
It's just not the space whereyou're ready to do that and and
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that's okay, you know.
You just meet yourself whereyou're at and and do it where
you can and trying to keepmoving forward.
You know, part of Reclaiming apersonal power is, as you said,
taking accountability For doingthe work and not give your power
away.
And I think we see both haveseen this happen and sometimes
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If someone's going to a shamanicpractitioner, energy healer,
it's like you want someone towave this magic wand, yes and
and it make you better, like fixme, and not taking
accountability that yes, we cando energy healing, we could do
the shamanic healing all day.
But if you aren't actuallyintegrating that, taking
accountability and alsocontinuing to work past that
session, you're not going tobenefit from it because you're
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not taking ownership andstanding in your own power and
in in your own healing process,because sometimes Some people
are a little comfortable beingin that unwell space because
it's safe, for whatever reason.
Tina (12:34):
It's so true, and I could go on a little tangent about
that, which I'll have to justcontain myself not to do, but
yes, it's, I love when we wereplanning this particular episode
.
I loved what you said 90% isyou, 10% is the shamanic
practitioner, energy worker.
We are creating the shifts, butyou need to receive them and in
order to receive them, you'vegot to do the work and if you've
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got assignments, to integratesomething you know, you got to
do it.
You got to take it seriously.
Some people just don't want totake responsibility, they don't
do any of it.
And guess what?
There's no change.
There's really no change.
It's like.
It's like putting something ina jar, that's closed.
Bri (13:12):
Well, it's like putting a band-aid on an infected wound.
You're not actually addressingwhat the infection right like.
You're just covering it up, soyou're pretending it's not there
, it's not the real.
Yeah, you know it's, it's all ofthese things your doctor, your
mental health, your, you know,your physical health, all of
these things there's justwhether you're working with
energy workers and and othersupport tools.
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All are.
These are tools for theindividual to use in their
healing process.
But you're you are still theindividual responsible for doing
the work or taking the medicineor changing the diet or making
those shifts for yourself, andwe are creatures of habit and
sometimes really hard to changethe habits we're in because
those are comfortable, safeplaces right one thing at a time
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yeah and it is a way of takingyour power back, rather than
having your healer do all thisyou know stuff for you and just
kind of not doing much, orhaving your doctor test your
blood or having you know goingto a mental health professional
and talking about it.
You've got to make those changeswithin your life for really
there to be a shift exactly, andyou know we talked earlier
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about self-compassion andempathy for the self, and I just
want to take a second like whatdoes self-compassion mean?
Because I think we hear it alot, but what does it really
mean to do?
And it's not just like, hey,I'm going to do the thing that
makes me feel good for no reasonright, like it's not it you
know, like self-care likesometimes I think what does that
really mean?
and so I'm just going to read acouple deaf share, a couple
definitions from Dr Kristin Neff, who's done a lot of work and
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research around this, and we canhave a link to her one of her
papers on the website if you'reinterested in learning a little
more.
So her definition ofself-compassion is
self-compassion is being kindand understanding when
confronted with personalfeelings, honoring and accepting
your humanness, comprised ofself-kindness, common humanity
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and mindfulness.
Self-compassion is valuingone's own pursuit of happiness
and aversion towards suffering,and behaving in accordance with
those values, transformingnegative thought habits,
attitudes and emotional biases.
Self-compassion is notself-indulgence.
Feeling sorry for the self orself pity are ruminating on
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personal entitlement An exampleof like what the self lacks or
deserves.
Self-compassion is sort of aparadox, as is not really about
focusing on the self, but aboutconsidering oneself as one of
the sentient beings among allothers towards which it is
worthy to dedicate one's ownenergy To the avoidance of
suffering and the promotion ofhappiness.
I love that and I just likethose definitions.
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Why I really wanted to sharethem?
Because I think it's a nice wayof Phrasing it and giving a
little more clarity about whatwe need when we're talking about
self-compassion.
Tina (15:52):
I love those definitions.
I love dr Krista Neff.
We will have links for this.
I also want to talk about SarahPeyton, who talks about warm
accompaniment in her book realresident self.
She talks about how everyonehas an inner voice and how we
can approach ourselves In a kindway.
When we speak to ourselves, alot of us so speak to ourselves
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critically, or we wouldn't saythe things to other people that
we do to ourselves.
So this is a, this is a form ofself-compaction and it makes a
big difference in the healingprocess as a practice.
You know how can I besupportive to myself right now?
You always want to be askingthat question, so I'm gonna
quote Sarah Peyton, who said inthe Western world there are many
religious traditions that tellus that self warmth is selfish
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or sinful.
We are often encouraged toproject warmth outward as
compassion for others or for theworld, but warned that we
shouldn't turn too much of thiswarmth toward the self.
In my humble opinion.
She says there is an absence ofunderstanding in Western
culture about how deeply harmfulLoneliness is for humans and
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how important it is that welearn to cultivate warmth for
ourselves.
I call this nervous systemstate of not receiving enough
warmth and not havinginternalized a loving,
resonating self-witness, alarmedaloneness.
Understanding how and why humanbrains need warmth is a key
reason why resonant healingworks to repattern our nervous
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systems towards kindness andresilience.
Self-warmth is about theintegration and internalization
of experiences of affection,presence, understanding and
kindness that comes to us fromothers.
If we haven't received this asyoung ones, we can build it
ourselves through cultivatingour resonating self-witness.
Really like that.
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Yeah, I love it.
Oh, we have links to this inour website.
Bri (17:40):
You know it's, and I think sometimes too we're
uncomfortable sitting with theuncomfortable feelings that come
up when we're doing our healingwork or shadow work or we're
trying to deepen our connectionto our whole self, and I think
we we don't realize that studiesshow we only experience an
emotion for 90 seconds.
Yeah, so if you just allowyourself to be like, this is 90
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seconds of discomfort.
I mean, think about it.
If it's lasting longer than 90seconds, you're feeding it with
a story, you're giving it anarrative and you're giving it
life.
It's like adding fuel to thefire.
You're stuck in a loop.
It's, you know, your thoughts.
They're getting Involved andleading you down that doom
spiral and creating thisnarrative and this story and
feeding it.
It's like when you startthinking about something that
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upset you and no one's there butyou keep beating it and you get
more worked up and you can feelthat the you know physiological
response in your body.
You're like I'm getting reallyfrustrated or angry, but it's
really you having a conversationand dialogue with yourself.
That's that's feeding thatemotion.
So if we can just bear witness,this is making me very
uncomfortable.
I'm very angry right now.
Or just note, you know, it'slike when you're meditating and
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you're like thoughts and comingback to the breath.
It's like saying anger, comingback to the breath.
This is here and Making spacefor it without feeding it and
just letting it go, flow and goand that's hard, yeah, that is
an intentional process andpractice one would have to
create for yourself.
Tina (19:03):
Right, I think they're going okay.
Am I feeding this emotion withthoughts or, you know, because
it's true, if it lasts more than90 seconds, then what are you
doing to feed that fire?
Bri (19:13):
Yeah, we are responsible for our own reaction to what
others bring to us.
So if we're in an argument withsomeone and we're getting more
and more upset because we'refeeding that conversation, you
can't make it their fault, right?
You are still your own personwho gets to choose to continue
to be in that situation orcontinue that argument or
continue to be in that Place.
That is not well for you inwhatever way.
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And so there is this narrativehappening in the back of the
brain around this conversation,that right, that's happening, or
whatever situation we findourselves in.
So being able to say I'm gonnastep away, I'm gonna step away
for a minute without feedingthat and just see what happens.
Tina (19:51):
I love what Brene Brown says.
She said you can talk tosomebody saying, if you're upset
about something you said, thestory I'm telling myself is this
and it makes us a little bitvulnerable, which I think is
really needed for goodrelationships.
And the story I'm tellingmyself is this, and that really
just tells both parties thatit's not something you're
married to, but this is why it'sa burden for you.
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And we all tell ourselvesstories.
We do.
Bri (20:17):
And also others tell us stories that we adopt about
ourselves.
Yes, so it's not always ourtruth.
It's a narrative that someonegave us around ourselves, and I
think this happens as children.
We're told something around ourbehavior or how we show up or
something that we do, and thenour internal narrative adopts
that story and feeds it and thenwe kind of absorb it Exactly,
Instead of saying I refuse toaccept your story about me in
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this story.
Tina (20:40):
Right, and it takes a lot of work.
I mean, you can say I'm anxiousabout this and then all of a
sudden we'll go down the rabbithole of thoughts and doom spiral
, like you said, and create abig annihilation story for
ourselves.
But you can also catch yourself.
You can say all right, I feelanxiety right now and I'm just
going to sit with this, and it'sreally not easy to do in a
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moment.
Bri (21:03):
But it can be done.
It can be done and I thinkresisting, allowing ourselves to
feel something, prolongs that.
Yeah, if you're going todisassociate, I'm not feeling
the thing.
I'm going to shove it down andput it back in my mind and I'm
not going to deal with thiscoming up.
It's still there, yeah,unresolved.
So just like when you startmining your trauma or your
woundedness or you're doing yourown healing and your work and
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then you're like oh my god,here's my wounded child, because
the wounded child didn't get toexpress that, or there's
something there, so it builds upwithin us, in our body, we're
carrying it, so it's justprolonging us to carry that and
adds to our suffering.
Tina (21:40):
Like how much Shundrum says fuel the feelings and drop
the story.
Bri (21:43):
Yes, exactly so you know.
Tina (21:44):
Allow yourself to be with it, Sit with it for a minute as
uncomfortable it is and this isreally, really important to say
If it's too much to sit with,you've got to have tools to be
able to sit with it, Becausesome people, some things in the
experiences they may have, itmight be so too much to be in
the body while you're sittingwith it so you might need to
have someone else help you withit.
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By that I mean a healer orbehavior health professional to
help give you some tools to beable to sit through something
that's been on process.
Bri (22:14):
That's really big, and I've heard this a long time ago and
I don't know the origin of thequote or the saying, but it was
always resonant for me Is thatSaying I am not the voice inside
my head and when you realizethat you are free, mm-hmm.
When you realize you are notdefined, you are that who's
observing, like you're behindthat, but you're not.
That narrative, that negativecredit inside of your head,
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that's just another eitherprotector part or version of
ourselves that keeps us, triesto keep us safe in some way, but
it's.
It also tears us apart.
Sometimes that critic is justthere and keeps us from doing
things or tells us we can't andkeeps us in our little box.
Tina (22:49):
And this could be all unconscious to.
We don't even know.
That voice is like chatteringback there.
You know mine is constantlycheck.
Bri (22:58):
It's never ending narrative all the time, even when I'm
trying to go to sleep.
For me I'm like, oh yeah, I'mnot this voice is running the
side of my head.
Tina (23:07):
I know we think we are.
Bri (23:08):
Yeah, we are so, tina, what does spirit have to say about
the process of healing?
They?
Tina (23:14):
said, whether human or non-human, a spirit who chooses
to become embodied on earthunderstands the expansiveness of
the growth being undertaken.
This seems to be forgotten as ayoung one grows, human or not,
and so each challenge andgrievous Experience, as well as
the joys and celebrations, arethe healing process embodied.
Your embodied life in yourworld is not an easy one, and it
(23:38):
is not built to be easy.
It is a continuous unfoldingand a discovery of oneself.
A Good portion of the ones whoreside in the spirit world have
walked the earth, which is whythese wise ones are available
for support.
Many of us, such as the one whois speaking now, have walked
the other worlds for thousandsof years, and so the more
(23:58):
intense experiences are nearlyforgotten, but our compassion is
not.
It is for you humans to havecompassion for yourselves when
you encounter troubles, forthese healing experiences are
best traveled with patience andself-love, although we envelop
you in love as well.
Your own self accompaniment isthe highest healing bomb one can
(24:19):
offer, that's beautiful.
What did they say about this foryou?
Bri (24:23):
So my helping spirit said Everyone's healing process is
unique and their own.
You can't compare your journeyto another's and comes in its
own time.
You live in a time where manysuffer in silence or ashamed for
not getting over it.
You are pushed to conform toothers think your healing
process should look like, or forit to occur within a specific
(24:43):
time frame.
How can one truly heal ifyou're not allowed to experience
your own embodied healingprocess at your own pace?
How can you heal if you hideaway from the uncomfortable
emotions?
Healing is challenging and raw.
It stings to look deeply intoyour wounds, but when you clean
them out and remove the debristhat keeps them from closing,
(25:04):
then you are making space fortrue healing to happen.
Healing is a powerful teacherand it frequently challenges you
to look at the way you chooseto show up in the world.
Healing is possible if you arewilling to sit with your truths
without judgment and acompassionate heart towards
yourself.
Trust in yourself and giveyourself the space to heal.
(25:26):
Know that you are supported byspirit and your ancestors.
Tina (25:30):
Both of these messages were so warm and full of
compassion.
Could you feel that?
Bri (25:35):
Yes, absolutely, it's beautiful.
We have a two-part journeyprompt for this episode.
The first journey is journey toyour helping spirits and asked
to be given fresh eyes on theprocess of your healing at this
time.
Ask to be shown the power youhave in your healing process.
Step 2 Journey and ask pleaseshow me a ceremony that I can
(26:00):
perform to celebrate myself andmy healing process.
Tina (26:05):
Thank you, brie.
You know I think it might behelpful for listeners, if they
do this two-step journey process, to journal about how, what
they got on these journeys andhow, how far they've come on
this your own healing path, yeah, and reflect on how you've
taken accountability in your ownhealing journey.
So that's something that youcan add to this as well.
(26:28):
If you really want to delveinto this piece, which we hope
you do, and you can find theseprompts on shaman's after dark
calm, we hope you drop us a lineand you can find Brie on tree
heart healing, calm and myselfat three pros healing with a
numeral three, and there arealso links to our personal pages
at shaman's after dark calmuntil next time.
Bri (26:48):
Everyone, keep on shining your light.
Tina (26:56):
Greetings, illuminated souls.
Due to the increased demands ofour everyday lives, shaman's
after dark is taking a hiatus.
Thanks for listening.
Until next time, keep onshining your light.
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