Eboné Almon on Creating Her Pinkprint: Legacy, Healing & Authentic Black Womanhood

In this heart-centered episode, Lisane Basquiat sits down with Eboné Almon, creator of The Professional Homegirl podcast, to explore the transformative power of storytelling and the strength found in embracing one’s truth. Eboné shares how the loss of her grandmother propelled her into the world of podcasting and how her platform has become a safe haven for Black women to anonymously share their stories of resilience, healing, and identity.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's very important for us to share our stories, and
I always have to be like deep, I just want
to give out hope, like I just want to inspire people.
I want to tell people not to give up. But
also I want to show people like, this is what
is about when you bet on yourself. This is what
it looks like and how I know is my purpose
because despite how tired I am, how heavy it gets,

(00:26):
it always feels good.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Welcome to the Shaping Freedom podcast, where we dive into
conversations that inspire personal growth, transformation and clarity and challenging times.
I'm your host, Lysan Boskia. Hi, friends, Really quick, before
you listen to this episode, if you haven't already, please
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All right, go ahead, do it now, and let's get
into the episode today. I'm honored and very excited to
welcome a visionary force in storytelling and in advocacy, Ebine almon.

(01:15):
I recently had the absolute pleasure of being interviewed by Ebna,
and ten minutes in I knew that I couldn't wait
to share another conversation with her for you the Shaping
Freedom Community. Ebina is the creator and host of The
Professional Homegirl podcast, a transformative platform that amplifies the voices

(01:36):
of women of color Through anonymous interviews. She delves into
powerful narratives a resilience, healing, and triumph, providing a space
where women can see themselves reflected and heard and seen.
In twenty sixteen, a pivotal moment inspired Ebina to create
a space where women could share their stories without the

(01:57):
fear of judgment. Occasion to creating safe spaces for authentic
storytelling has made her a beloved figure in the podcasting world.
Her work has been featured in Essence, Glamour, and Forbes,
highlighting her commitment to empowering women through shared experiences. My

(02:17):
experience of being interviewed by Ebene was one that had
a profound impact on me. I felt like I was
sitting in a living room chatting with a longtime friend again,
as I mentioned before, ten minutes in and I knew
that that was not going to be the last conversation

(02:38):
that we had, And so here is the next one.
So please join me in welcoming the very inspiring Ebine
Almond to the show.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh thank you so much, Bixus. I really appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's China the cry. But that really made my You're welcome.
You're welcome. As I said, having that conversation with you
just a short while ago, was it felt very healing.
You know, we had the opportunity to really connect and

(03:17):
it was more conversational than an interview. And so again
I was I knew that I wanted this to happen,
what we're going to create today, and I'm just really
happy and grateful that you were able to find time
in your busy schedule to chat with me.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I was not telling you no, like when you want
to talk, when you want to talk to me whenever
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
So I know you created the Professional Homegirl podcast and
through that podcast you share stories of women of color.
What have you learned through that platform about the experience
for women of color?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I believe what I learned through the platform when my platform,
the Professional Homegirl, is everybody just want to be seen.
I feel like a lot of times, especially when you
come from certain neighborhoods, a lot of conversations not easy
to have. And it also made me dig deeper into
my childhood and certain things that I didn't feel comfortable
about talking about. And you know, it wasn't until I
started going to therapy after losing my grandmother that you know,

(04:33):
there's nothing wrong with sharing your story. There's no shame,
there's no guilt, Like you should be proud of the
story that you outlive.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I also feel like, you know, when I have
these stories and I have these conversations, it actually teaches
people how to empathize with people and just show compassion.
I think a lot of times, you know, we go
through a lot of things and we so quick to judge,
but you not even knowing the full story and why
this person got to this point. And I also feel
like the professional Home Go or podcast, it's all a

(05:01):
lot of people, including myself, how to be thankful for
the past lives that got me to where I'm at today.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, I loved you saying proud of the story that
you outlive.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I love that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know, very often when we go through things, and
especially when they're challenging circumstances, people focus so much on
the challenges and how and what it took from them,
But having gone through it, means that you actually outlived something,

(05:34):
you loved, something you evolved, you grew, you're you've hopefully
elevated to a new level of understanding. So I think
the fact that those women are willing to then, or
for those women that you've spoken with, that they're willing
to sit down and share that with other women with you,

(05:54):
you know, through you, with other women, is it's kind
of what the conversation is really about.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, I agree, And I always tell my guests and
also my listeners, like, you just never know how your
storyline can be somebody else's lifeline. And I think a
lot of times we continue these cycles of different things
that keeps going on and on within our lives or
just within different generations because nobody have an honest conversations.
And I think that's the beauty of my platform where

(06:21):
you get to hear and also experience different versions of
black womanhood. Yeah, and I think that's very necessary, especially
in today's climate.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I appreciate that. And it's also the way that
we understand that we're not in a box, Like we
create the boxes that we're in, we create the platforms
that we're on in terms of the life that we're
living and hearing more and more stories helps us to
know that there's this thread that connects us and that

(06:53):
even with that thread, we all have such different experiences
and different things to bring to the table. There's so
much messaging that tells us that no, we're all the same,
and that's just really not not the truth. So I
want to know more about your origin story, Like how
how did you get into storytelling?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh? My gods, I feel like I've always been into
storytelling because I've always been a girl that everybody and
their mama used to come to and tell them everything, right,
like if I can talk to an animal, if they
can talk back, Like I always love being around women
or just being around people and just having a good
time just keecking. And for me, I think that, you know,
one of the worst days of my life, unfortunately created
so many beautiful moments of my life, especially having the

(07:37):
conversation with you, was losing my grandmother. I lost my
nana almost ten years ago, and at that time I
never experienced death in my family. So when I was
going through that transition of you know, navigating life without
her and her support, you know, mental health wasn't as
trendy or as popular or even as accepting as it

(07:57):
is today. Back then almost ten years though, so as
I started going through therapy and you know, I started
getting all the tuls and the resources and the things
that you know, I needed on my journey with my
mental health, I was like, you know, it would be
kind of cool if I was to be able to
create a podcast where, you know, I just have these
conversations with a lot of women or now I have
a men series, but just with people in general, to

(08:19):
just come on site and just beat them full authentic selves.
And I also feel like, you know, in the midst
of all that it taught me how to really appreciate
my story and where I'm coming from. You look so
proud right.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Now, you know, I'm just happy. I'm happy to having
this conversation.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, like it really taught me a lot. And I
feel like, you know, when I have these conversations with
different people, and you know, a lot of the conversation
are really hard to listen to. But I also feel like,
you know, where we come from, you don't talk about
certain things. What goes on in this house stays in
this house is the number one rule. And I just
feel like at a certain point, like we just I
just want to dispel that narrative and I just want

(08:58):
people to be free. And I think by doing this,
by doing this podcast and having my business, like if
it saved my life, and I know it's saving other
people lives. Like I just imagine the type of conversations
and the type of growth that we can have within
our communities and we just have these honest conversations.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I'm sorry you watched your grandmother.
I have me too, my granddaughter Emma, And sometimes I
think about that. Yeah, It's like a random thought every
once in a while where I'm like, oh, wow, please
like let me be with her for as long as
I can, let me help her. Yeah, as long, for

(09:35):
as long as I can, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, you know, I really thought my grandmother was like
I don't know, I just never thought that she would die.
I thought she was gonna be here forever. So, you know,
losing her was just such a oh my god. It
was such a pivotal moment in my life, especially not
even touching thirty and just like having to like really
come to terms with her not being here, but then

(09:59):
also rebuilding my relationship with God because I was very
angry with him, very angry. So I think that, like
I said, losing her was unfortunately one of the worst
days of my life, but it created so many amazing,
beautiful moments for me to share not only her legacy,
but the one I'm building for myself.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
What do you how do you hold space? Because you're
hearing these stories that I would imagine are sometimes not
easy to hear because people are bearing their souls and
really sharing probably the best parts of their lives and
maybe you know, the not so great parts of their lives.
How do you how do you hold space for that

(10:42):
level of vulnerability?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
You know, the stories I have on the show, majority
of the time, they really don't bother me. I think
the only stories that really bothered me are the ones
that's triggering to my childhood. So if I'm having a
conversation with somebody and obviously the topic is about things
that they are new and they endure in their childhood,
that's when it becomes difficult for me because I had
a very traumatic and challenging childhood. So that's something that

(11:07):
I try to like not stay away from, because I
do believe those conversations aren't necessary, but I do have
to like prep myself. I have to pray. I have
to have my friends and my loved ones pray for me,
just to make sure that I'm able to you know,
a hold space for this person and also make sure
that I carry their story out the same as if
I would do for anybody else without triggering myself.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah. Yeah, how do you take care of yourself?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well? You know, since you ask, I want to hear
you know, I'm in a space now where I really
like just being to myself and just either reading a book.
You know, I like to be in quietness because I
feel like a lot of times I'm not in a
quiet space because I'm either always talking, I'm always listening

(11:50):
to something in my era where it's a conversation, you know, socializing.
Like I really truly love being to myself right now.
So whatever, like what it's sleeping, whether it's going for
long a walk so sometimes, whether it's just just not
doing nothing and just looking into space, like I just
really like to just you know, spend time with myself
and talk to myself in a way where you know,

(12:12):
how does this feel, eboney? Does this make you good?
Or where do you see yourself going? Like? How I
would do with you or a close friend or whatever
the case may be, Like, I want to do that
with myself. So I feel like I'm in the season
of just like really fostering and securing that relationship with myself.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I always say that, and kind of my story.
A pivotal moment for me was when I recognize that
I wasn't really taking care of myself right. And so
I love hearing that you are attuned to and pouring
into the relationship that you're in with yourself. Yeause it's

(12:47):
not easy. No, it's not easy to I'm I'm an
introvert playing the role of an extrovert. I love to
be by myself. I truly do. Yeah, And I check
in with myself and I can just cozy up and
be fine, absolutely fine, really, And that's kind of the

(13:12):
balance to me, or the way that I harmonize the
amount of energy that I put out and the number
of people that I interact with on any given day
when you feel off course, you know, which we all
dome or another? What do you do? Like, do you
have like a routine or a ritual that helps you
to get back to.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Eb and a So I cry, I love that and
then I swing at the air and then I just
have a moment with myself. Like, you know, I definitely
sacrifice a lot to be in a good space, in
a good relationship with God. So with that being said,

(13:52):
like I really have like honest conversations with him, and
then I just honor how I feel like, I let
my emotions go through his process and then I try
to go back to like okay, ebanay, Like now that
you have released, now, what do you need to feel
like yourself again? So whether it is either you know,
spending time with friends, because I do feel like I
also don't want to isolate myself because sometimes I do

(14:14):
need to be around love, and I feel like, you know,
being that I don't really have the idea of a
family like a mother and a father and things of
that nature. You know, I had to create my family.
So when I do feel like I'm depleted or i
feel like my energy is very low and I'm not
doing enough for myself, I have to call on my
loved ones and lean on them. So I'm very definitely,

(14:34):
very fortunate to have people in my life that are
understanding and also patient with me to want to be
around me. And to pour back into me when I
really need it.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, And I love that you recognize the importance of releasing.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It kind of ties back to what you were saying
earlier about some of the stories that you hear about
people who and many of us were raised with this
idea that what happens in the house stays in the house. Right,
And on some level, maybe you know, but on most
of the levels, holding that kind of thing in, whatever

(15:10):
it is, or or allowing yourself to walk this planet
without releasing yeah, creates emotional and mental constipation. It's so
hard to be able to step freely into your life,
into any part of your life, or any relationship when

(15:30):
you are holding so many things in. So the fact
that you recognize and have the emotional and mental wisdom
to know just release it, however, you know whateverybay is.
And then once you release, you kind of brought back
to center.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Exactly, because if I can't be real with myself, how
can I be real with anybody else?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Please say it again for the people in the back,
right seriously, Yeah, right, Like that's so important to me,
Like I have to be honest with myself for girls,
How it makes me feel yeah, I think you do,
and I think that you know you're right. There are
so many people who, you know, we get upset when
we you know, kind of the general hypothetical, we get

(16:12):
upset when people are dishonest with us, but very often
all you're seeing is the relationship that that person is
in with themselves, you know, because if you are not
telling the truth to yourself, it's really hard, if not impossible,
to be completely one hundred percent authentic with another person.
That's one of the things that I recognize and see

(16:34):
in you, and one of the things that brought that
smile to my face earlier and when we were talking
a few weeks ago, you know, is that you're you're
an authentic person, and it's clear that you're doing your
work and that you're paying attention to what's happening inside
of here so that you can truly stand for and
whole space for other people. And that's that's admirable. I

(16:58):
will say proud because because I always see you know,
I think pride is kind of a funny thing. I
can say I'm happy for you, right, but it's like,
who am I to be proud of you?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah? Happy for you?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And I think that's that's a beautiful way to walk
this planet.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Thank you, Thank you. I'm glad the work is showing
because I pay a lot of money to my therapist.
That's good to know. But it feels good when other
people are seeing the amount of work that you put
in because I think that before my grandmother passed away,
I was nowhere near where I'm at today. And I
think that by having the face you know a lot
of difficult things that I endure in my childhood and

(17:39):
also you know, just forgiving myself for even allowing myself
to even believe that it was my fault. What the
case may be. But just like you know, I put
a lot of blessed and tears into becoming what I
who I always envision, you know, And it really means
a lot when I have people like yourself and other
people saying, like, you know, you have good energy, like
I can tell like you really put the work in.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Absolutely. What are three things that you've learned in the
nine years since you started podcasting and storytelling?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Three things that I have learned. I would say that
one that to trust myself, because I feel like one
of the things that I have always known about myself
is God has already shown me what my life has
looked like from a very young age. But I believe

(18:44):
that because of my environment, society and just life within itself,
and also not knowing what my relationship with God would
look like, I feel like that kind of to tear
me away from who I really was and knowing what
I was capable of doing. And I feel like, in
the first time in a very long time, I feel
at home with myself. Oh wow, yeah, Like it took

(19:05):
me a long time to get there. So I would
definitely say that I trust myself so much more, and
like I feel like anything that I want, I can
achieve it. Like if I can see it, it's already done.
I just got to get into alignment with that, you know.
I would think the second thing that I learned is
to oh, what's another thing that I like, I've been
learning a lot of stuff lately. The second thing that

(19:28):
I learned, oh, is that regardless of the person, especially
if it's someone that hurt me, they can still teach
me things, especially when it comes to compassion. And I
learned that from my father, which I shared with you.
I told you that my father and I are in
the process of getting to know each other. And one
of the things that he is teaching me is compassion.

(19:51):
And I would have never thought in a million years
that I would learn that from him.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
And then last, but not least, I would say that
the the last thing that I learned is I don't know,
I feel like I'm just super fly. Like I'm just
super proud of me a fly.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Why.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Like, I just feel like sometimes we're just so hard
on ourselves because we always feel like we should be
a lot furthering where we at. And sometimes I have
my moments and I'm like, wow, like, God, I see
what you're doing. Guy, Like I'm here with you.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, I think it's I think also back to sometimes
And it's interesting. I had a conversation earlier today with
someone and we were talking about perfectionism and how and
I didn't say this during that particular conversation, but one
of the thoughts I had afterwards was that if you
don't give yourself a moment and acknowledge what you've done

(20:45):
and everything that you had to do to get to
where you are, it's like you're you're cheating yourself. It's
a way of yourself, right, you know, because we hold
on to. You know, very often people hold on to
the negative things that happen in their lives. They clutch that,
they hold it like a purse, and you know, walk
around with it under their arms. This bad thing happened

(21:07):
to me, or this person hurt me, or whatever the
challenge is. And then we're afraid to hold on to
the joy and to embrace the beautiful things about life
because that too. But it's a matter of what we're
willing to see and where we're willing to put our focus.

(21:28):
It's almost like, you know, you'll reap what you sew me. Yeah,
you know, And I think we look at that, even
that as a negative thing, but the truth is is
that you reap what you sew where you put your energy.
That's what's sewing, is you reap that, whether it's negative
or positive.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah. Yeah, that's so funny that you said that, because
I was having this conversation with my friend and she's
going through some things, and I was like, you gotta
you have to be mindful of how you speak to yourself.
And I think in the past, I used to always
call myself a victim. I didn't have no family, all
types of things, and then I'm like, you know, you're
teaching yourself all these harmful things that are not even true.

(22:04):
And I'm like, you have to really change the verbie
that you use to describe yourself to yourself, because that
really matters. So I definitely agree with you when it
comes to like, you know, cultivating your own world, cultivating
your own space, and like be a proud of what
you accomplish and where you come from, like you should be.
I always tell people, like especially with my guests, when
they get into a moment of like feeling sorry for
them of themselves, and I'm like, girl, that happened a

(22:26):
couple of years ago. You are not. We're we talking
about you know what I'm saying. So I think people
should get themselves a lot more credit than they.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Do, yeah, for real. And I think also, you know,
we sometimes think about what people said to us. Yeah,
you know, I know people who twenty five years later,
they are still rolling their eyes at somebody because it's
something they said to me, you know, mad tight, like girl,
come like like no you can't have that water, you know,

(22:56):
pissed and it's and we get upset about that. But
how are you talking to yourself? You know, because that's
that voice, that's the voice that really that you're really
listening to.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's the voice that speaks to you.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And so if you can shift that language and recognize
that what you are saying, you're saying to an audience
of one, even if you're talking, even when you're talking
to someone else, like you are the captive audience hearing
that and getting programmed, getting those words programmed into your
soul and your spirit. It's really owe it to ourselves

(23:38):
to watch what it is that we're saying to ourselves,
treating ourselves, how we refer to ourselves. You know, I
take care of myself.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I love it. I'm so happy to hear that. Yes,
I always think I just ever treat.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, me too. Sometimes it's a little too many treats,
but me too expensive.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
So I can only imagine what their treuths look like.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
It depends on the day, It depends on the day.
What role do you believe storytelling plays and breaking generational
cycles and reshaping the emotional culture of our families and communities.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh my god, I just think it plays a huge role.
Like I even think about my own storyteller when it
comes to my life, and just like you know, not
having an idea where I come from. And then when
I reconnected with my father and hearing things from his family,
and I'm like, wow, I see why I'm like this,
or I see why I'm like that. And that's why
I always encourage people to share your stories, like you
just never know what can come from it. And I

(24:43):
also think that we need to we need to normalize
certain conversations because unfortunately, you know, a lot of mess
up things goes on behind closed doors. And I think
that's the reason why the stigma when it comes to
certain conversations or topics, the rate it's so high because
we're not having these conversations. We all got that one uncle,

(25:04):
we all got that mom, we all had that dad.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I just think that
we need to, really, at this day and age, have
those conversations so when the next generation come, like they
can be prepared. And I think we are getting better
as generations and as time go by, but I also
think that, you know, we still shouldn't be tiptoeing around
certain topics.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, what makes you think we're getting better?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Because I feel like and maybe it's the space that
I'm creating with my brand. But I just feel like,
you know, the conversations don't seem as heavy like I
feel like. But I also do believe in, you know,
putting the medicine in the candy, because I do understand
the severity of certain topics. But I also do believe.
I also feel like when I'm having these conversations, like
it just don't feel like how it feel if I

(25:48):
was younger, Like I feel like when I was younger,
you know, back in the day, like it was either
a hush hush or whisper things of that nature. And
I feel like now, especially with social media media, everything
is just so like in your face. I feel like
when I read the comments section, you know, you have
some that maybe triggered, but then you have others and
it's like, oh my god, I thought I was the
only one and this happened to me, and they keep
going in somebody else comments. So I feel like we

(26:09):
are in a space where people want to share these stories,
like people want to feel seen and people want to
have a voice.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah. Yeah, the conversations are definitely more on the table.
I know as a kid, as a child, you know,
my parents had gone through divorce, and there were all
kinds of things going right, and nobody ever talked about
it at all. It was all kind of kept. It
was all kept inside, and I don't even think for
most of the people that I knew that there was

(26:39):
there wasn't a table set to be able to process
those conversations right at all. Like you kept it to yourself,
and that was a sign of strength. And so it
does feel good to see people like you who are
creating space for people to actually share what's going on
and put it on the table. Because it's a kid,

(27:01):
you know. My I was first generation. My father was Haitian,
my mother was Puerto Rican. My mother had some there
are mental health issues going on, There was divorce going on,
and I grew up one hundred percent believing and feeling
like I was the other that was strange in some way.
And it wasn't until many, many years later that as

(27:22):
I began to open up and focus on my own
healing and focus on what I knew I didn't want
to permeate and spread into the world, that I started
to recognize that the healing power of speaking and sharing
and telling the story, and you don't have to tell

(27:44):
it to every single person. But you got to find something,
some way to get it out because inside your brain,
it's just going to be bouncing.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Because seriously, and I think that's what I was experienced,
because you know, one night, I was in my apartment
and I woke up to the smell of smoke and
I looked across the street and I saw this house
across the street on fire, and next thing you know,
I'm like having a panic attack because I didn't realize
that because of how trauma worked, you know, my mind

(28:14):
had blocked out a lot of things that I experienced
when I was a kid. So I had a memory
of being a young girl in the house and my
mom was using substance in our apartment was almost on fire,
and I completely blocked it out. So that was another
reason why I was like, I need to go to
therapy on top of losing my grandmother. And I say
all that to say that, you know, a lot of
times when people look at us or look at other people,

(28:37):
they don't understand the things that we endure or been
through until we start sharing our story. And then when
I started telling people like, oh, you know, when I
was a young girl, you know, not only was it
traumatic and challenging, but I was also physically abused growing up,
and then I don't look like my story. But when
I told people that, especially with creating this platform, you know,
it was very healing for myself because now I can
give people hope of what it looks like to come

(28:58):
out from the other end of what trauma could do
to you. So I definitely agree with you. It's very
important for us to share our stories. And I always
have to be like dep but just I'm just really
big on like, and maybe this is because this is
what I needed when I was growing up, But I'm
just really big on just being a physical manifestation of
what hope looks like for someone. You know, Oh, thank

(29:20):
you sis, thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
You are and so are you? Yeah, thank you? Thank you?
Oh yeah, what kind of conversations are you looking to
open the door to moving forward?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well, you know that's funny that you said that, because
I am gearing up for season three, and you know,
I always look at the Professional Homegirl just my overall
business as a pink print, a pink print, so like
like a blueprint, Like okay, I like that, but you know,
pink is my favorite colors. Okay, Okay, I love that. Okay,

(29:58):
thank you. So one of my favorite lyrics from jay
Z is Hohlee did that so you don't have to
go through that. So that's what I think of the
Professional Homegirls, a pink print through the different journeys of
black womanhood, and one of the stories that I am
working on for season three, I actually just got the
blessing from their family. I went to school with this
girl and very beautiful girl. Like we weren't very close

(30:22):
because she was an upperclassman, but she was just super
super pretty, super nice. Everybody wanted to be her, everybody
wanted to be her friend. And make a long story short,
she was killed a couple of years ago and the
case has been unsolved. And when I was talking to
her sister, you know, her sister was like, at first,
they didn't know if they wanted to like share her

(30:42):
story and like cause obviously there are some other factors
that places into this her story whatever, and I was
just like, you know, I said, if I can just
have your blessing, I said, I think we need to
share her story because there's so many women out there,
especially unfortunately when they are no longer here, they get
forgotten about and when we talk about legacy, like that's
what's important to me, Like how can we use her

(31:05):
story to not only continue her legacy but also to
help other people. So I think for season three, I
really want to like have like like I feel like
I'm always having deep conversations, but I don't know, I
feel like I really want to just be in my
neighborhood and like really touch on topics that like, and
I had so many topics and sometimes I'm like, oh wow, gud,
like what else can I talk about? But I just

(31:26):
really want to touch on conversations where where people can
really just take away from it and really be able
to use it as they're more compass on their journey,
you know. And I feel like with this particular story,
like especially being from Memphis, cennesc like Memphis is not
no easy, easy place to survive. It could be very

(31:47):
hard at times for the most part. And I don't know,
I just think about all the black and brown girls
and boys that live that's from Memphis and me being
from Memphis, and like not a lot of people can
be able to sit they on the call with the
sound by Scott, you know. So I just want to
just really, I just want to give out hope, Like
I just want to inspire people. I want to tell
people not to give up. But also I want to

(32:08):
show people like, this is what is about when you
bet on yourself. This is what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Oh wow, I love that. Yeah, what did you What
was your vision for your adult life when you were younger?
If you had one? Oh my god, what were you
good at? You know?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I was good at math. I love math. I always
been a girly girl, so I always love like makeup
and hair and things of that nature. Surprisingly, I wanted
to be a mortician because I never wanted to be
a makeup artist and I love scary movies. I'm like,
you know, I can handle making people look pretty if
they no longer hear it, you know. And I don't know,
but I always knew that I wanted to be an

(32:46):
entrepreneur as well, because when I used to come to
New York and visit my grandma, and I used to
see the people on the street hustling. I'm like, oh,
what is that? And my grandma was like, that's that's
another form of entrepreneurship. And I'm like, oh, okay, Like
I thought that was so cool just to see people
on the streets selling things on the trains and stuff.
So I always knew that I was going to be
in the lane of creating something. I just feel like

(33:06):
I didn't know that it would be me talking and
having conversations with people and then using that to incorporat
into coloring books and things of that nature. But I
always knew that I never wanted to work for anybody,
like I wanted to do what I wanted to do,
and I knew I wanted to do it at a
very young age.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
What kind of legacy do you want to build? What
kind of legacy do you see yourself building in the future.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
You know, one thing that I always think about is
that when I'm no longer here, I want people to
always remember me as a girl who did it her way.
That's what I want. I feel like, you know, I
want the Professional Homegirl to live way longer than me,
and I believe she will. I believe that what the
Professional Homegirls doing is really helping a lot of people.

(33:53):
And I also feel like she's the you know, she
is the introduction to having conversations, like real conversations. I
think she's a conversation starter. So I definitely want to
be known as somebody who did it her way and
who also just never gave up no matter how hard
it got.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Do you believe this work to be your purpose?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Absolutely? Absolutely? And how I know it's my purpose because
despite how tired I am, how heavy it gets, it
always feels good. It always feels good. And that's why
I always make sure I anored my grandmother, my Nana,
Evelyn Terry, because I feel like if it wasn't for her,
I would not be where I'm at today.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Thank you for calling her name. Yeah, how did you decide?
How did you get into the business of podcasting? Like
what did you do? And I'm asking this question for
the folks who are listening, who admire you and who
watch you, and they see everything that you've accomplished through it,

(34:54):
and I think it's really important to fill in the house,
like how did you do it?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So I actually got a really cool story. So, you know,
I was podcasting it'll be seven years and I think
January seventeenth of next year, but I was podcasting for
maybe maybe four or five years, no, four years, And
so I started because I was going to therapy, and
I'm like, you know, what, It'll just be cool to
have people on the show. And you know, we key anyway,

(35:20):
so why not just key key on air? You know,
So you know I had these conversations whatever, and you know,
for the longest, I wasn't making no money. But I
just always believed that God would not put something on
my heart for me not to see it through and
for him not to make it feasible and for me
to make it living off of it and make it
everything that I always thought that my what I always

(35:41):
thought entrepreneurship would look like for me, Like I just
knew that this was for me. I didn't know how
I was gonna make a dollar. I didn't know where
it was going to come from, but I knew it
was going to happen. And so when I was podcasting whatever,
I remember the day I think I'm maybe in like
year three, maybe year two, year three, and I remember
seeing Charlamagne, the guy from the Breakfast Club. He made

(36:03):
an announcement saying that he had just launched his network
called Black Effect Podcast Network. And when I tell you that,
I knew I was going to be a part of
that network, Like you could not tell me nothing. I
used to talk about joining this network every single day.
And that's how manifestation works for me. Like if I'm
constantly talking about something, it's already done. I'm just trying

(36:25):
to hurry up and get in alignment with my future self,
right so we can be on the same page. And
so at that moment, I used to and I kept
being consistent. I think that's something I always tell people, like,
you know, in order for you meet to go, you
got to do your part. You have to be consistent.
So I was still dropping episode every week. I was
still like, you know, networking, Like, I was still putting

(36:47):
myself out there because I did not want to miss
my window because I knew it was coming. And so
I was DM and Charlomagne like every week when my
episode came out, and of course he was dubbing me,
and so I was like, you know what, like i
I'm like, especially just being a tough kid from Memphis,
like I was not giving up, and I knew it
was coming. So then one day, maybe in year four

(37:09):
and a half going on year five, Yeah, year four,
because it'll be three years I've been with them, I
saw open up Instagram and I saw on their Instagram
page that they was looking for a new podcast to
add to their lineup, and when I tell you, I
was so thankful. I knew what God whispers sound like
because I literally heard guy say, here, girl, this is
your time. I shared that post with all of my friends,

(37:32):
all of my listeners. I'm like, please, please please. I'm like,
tag at the PSG podcast, but also add my pink
flamingo because my logo is the Flamingo, which represents beauty,
balancing grace. I'm like, please tag this little bird because
she gonna stand out because everybody wants to be on
this network. So she was tagging me, She was tagging me.
I mean, everybody was tagging me. Was going like NonStop.

(37:53):
And I saw that the President was in the comments
section as well, so remind you I was DM and
her too, and she was up with me. So I
was like, hey, can you check your DM. I would
love to have a conversation with you. So she was like, no,
say what you guys say in the comment section. I said, oh,
say less. So I took what I put in her
DMS and I went back into the comment shopped and
screwed it and I paced it and then everybody started

(38:15):
liking the comment, and then the presidents lived in my dms,
and then the rest was history. So I always tell people, like,
you know, I do believe that the universe don't line
up one way or the other. You just gotta be ready.
And I was so ready. I had everything laid out,
My business was already secure, my trademark, and I was disciplined.

(38:37):
I already had my formatic. I just needed to partner
with a network that was able to take me further
ahead because I was going to get there. But I
think that obviously, when you have support, you can get
there a lot faster. And so that's how I got
with the network and I've been with them for three
years now.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Wow, if you have any advice for an aspiring podcast
story someone who is looking to do what you're doing
from a brand perspective, what kind of advice would you give?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I would just say, just be yourself. Like I know
that sounds so cliche, but I think a lot of times,
especially in the space where you know, a podcasting is
like the new media and outlet, I think that a
lot of times people get so caught up in the
bigger personalities. But like you know, I have a little
name for myself, but I'm not no international name as
of yet. But I also think the reason why I

(39:29):
was able to go as far as I'm going is
because I am myself, Like I don't have to change
my voice, I don't have to act a certain way,
like I show up. What you see is what you get.
So I always tell people to just show up as
yourself and just be real because people know when you're
faking it.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I mean, what I came out of your story is
one list. When you hit where you hear that download,
listen to it.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
And also, you can't achieve what you're not willing to see. Yes,
sometimes it's not what you're not willing to see, but
other times it's what you're not willing to put the
work in.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, I mean, podcasts is not easy. Sometimes I be
feeling like I'm finding a cure for a disease I
don't even know the name of. It just feels like
a lot of you are.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
It's called unhappiness.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Right, Like it's a lot of work. I'm glad you
brought that up because I also feel like people feel
as if you know, you just get behind the mic
and talk. But like if you are a head as
hands on as we are, like you're researching, you speaking
to the producers. A lot of times, I still edit
my own shows, i still find my own guests. I'm
still researching and coming up with the questions. Like for me,

(40:46):
like it takes me, like a good going on almost
two weeks to be fully invested in the conversation. I'm
having the only errors once a week, you know what
I'm saying. So you cannot be afraid to do the work.
I think a lot of times people get so caught
up in the brand, but they forget the work that
actually goes into building a brand. Yeah, and being in
a relationship with this podcast or just my business for

(41:07):
almost seven years have taught me a lot. So you
cannot be afraid to get dirty with it, absolutely, and
to put your heart into it, you know heart actually,
And to be specific, I think that's one of the
biggest things.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I know.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
The things in my life that I've been able to
accomplish have happened because I got specific. So I want
to be happy. It's very different than I want to
have an incredible relationship with everyone in my life or
whatever those things are like. And that's what I hear

(41:42):
in your story is that you were like, I'm going
to do this thing. I can see it, and my
future self is telling me that I'm on the right
track and pulling me forward and I'm going to follow
her and yeah, but that's okay and along the way,
but that's ok there, just fine.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
You I'm not I need my future self to find
me a man because I'm tired. Do you want to
talk about that for a minute? How I tell me,
what are you doing to find a man? Let's talk
about it?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
And there's a real question. You know. It's funny. I
talk to people from all walks of life, from all
over the world, from all kinds of different backgrounds and
different experiences, and there seems to be a relationship problem
or shortage in the dating world. I don't care what's

(42:43):
going on right or what kind of world a person's
coming from. Uh, what are your tips? What do you do?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I mean, there's definitely pe in a dating pool. I
will say that, you know what, if I'm being honest,
you know, all of my friends are either married, they
got kids, they got relationships scenes of that nature. And
in the beginning, you know, it was definitely challenging for

(43:12):
me because I've always been that girl who wanted to
be a boss, Like I just always wanted to chase
after my professional goals and like, you know, accomplish what
success means to me. However, I do feel like there
were times where I kind of resented that part of
me because I felt like I sacrificed so much that

(43:32):
sometimes I feel like, damn, like did I miss my
chance of like being in love exactly?

Speaker 3 (43:37):
You know?

Speaker 1 (43:37):
But sometimes you have those moments because I don't know,
that's just how things make you feel, you know. But
I think now and then also with that being said
that amongst those sacrifices I share with you, you know,
I was celibant for four years because you know, I
had to have a real coming to Jesus as a
woman and like come on now, like you gotta do
something because I'm struggling down here, like what I gotta

(44:01):
do to let you know I'm being serious, because it
was getting to a point where I don't think I'm
making it like I really did not want to be
here because I'm just like, it was so hard, especially
when you don't have the support of family, you know.
So I think also it was just being celibate for
four four and a half years. You know now that
I'm in a space where I am outside and I'm dating,

(44:21):
and you know, you know, I'm doing my thing. You know,
I can't settle for certain things because I didn't came
too far. So you know, I tried the app. The
app is Ghatto.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'm not gonna say I have never looked at an app.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
It's Ghattle.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
And who are those people? They can't be real, but
I think they are. I think they are. Okay, I'm
gonna tell you. The other day, I'm looking and I had,
you know, some girlfriends, which is like looking, looking, looking,
and and it was more just for like the entertainment
of it all, right, right, And there was this one
guy and he, first of all, he took a photo

(44:57):
in the bathroom, right, which is like, why why do
you do that? Why don't do that? Get away from
the bathroom mirror, let's speak it. Don't do that, uh,
set the phone, do something else. So the guy does that,
and he obviously was not the most athletic person in
the world right at all at all, And he says,

(45:22):
I need somebody who works out, and so I'm like
that and I'm my girlfriends. That's stupid.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
And then and then he.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Had like four bottles of prescriptions on the.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Counter attractive, Like why would you do you just.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Think a little bit like are you what are you doing?
Like what exactly are you doing? Like do you realize
the interview that you are showing up for? Right, he's workout?
Clearly he didn't, which is his business. It's all good
that the issue was that he was looking for someone
that worked out when he wasn't willing to do the
work himself.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
That's one.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
It's actually was like we all have whatever medications, like,
that's fine. It was just the fact that it was like,
let me show you my sloppy behind life, right, And
that goes back to what you were talking about about
the dating pool, and that said to me while it

(46:27):
was entertaining, for sure, one of the things that it
said to me is we can't look at the pool
and then be pissed off because you're not finding the
thing that you're looking for. Like, we have to show
up in the places where we know we're going to
meet that person or our chance as a hire of

(46:50):
meeting that person that is going to resonate with us.
So if you go to an apple field and you're
looking for an orange. You can't get pissed off because
the apple isn't willing to become an orange for you.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah yeah, and maybe there.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Are less oranges, but it is expensive to go through
apple after apple after apple after apple, knowing it's an
apple with maybe a different name, a different face, different closed,
different job, but it's really still the same apple when
you want orange. And what that means is that maybe
there are less dates, maybe it takes a little bit longer,

(47:32):
but you only need one.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, yeah, but you know what Big says. I also
think we need to bring back shame. I think people
are because because why do you think that I'm going
to be attracted to you in the bathroom with medication
on the table, Like, No, we need to bring back shame,
Like you need to be a shame of yourself. Like

(47:55):
I wanted to tell you.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I was like I should, I should connect, just to
like give him a couple of like bro, remove that
the photo with the dead fish. We don't want that.
We're not what I'm saying, What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (48:13):
That's what I'm saying. But people are too comfortable. People
are too comfortable. I missed the days when people were
ashamed to do things.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
But they hit, but they came out. I say, put
it all out there like I will guests. Yes, you
want to show up, you're inconsistent.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
I love it because then you know right no, right
up front, there's nothing I say. Be authentic, Be authentic,
crazy self, so that people have the ability to choose
right thoughtfully about who they want to spend their time
with and who they want to date.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Because he got some nerve asking somebody to beat make
sure they work out.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
What do you do, sir? It was really funny. It's
like King looking for his queen and I want you
to work all. I was like, that is just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I'm telling you, but I am being very hopeful. I
feel like my person is coming. I feel like, yeah,
I feel it, I feel it. I'm just asking God
to give me like three four more years before I
have to have a baby and stuff, because I'm having
a lot of fun right now outside.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
It's good to know what you want. It's good to
know what you want, and it's good to know the
life that you want to live. And I think if
I can say this to you, of course, since you
said I'm your big sist, I'm going to say it.
You've created a wonderful life for yourself. You're living in
your purpose. You're you're expressing your creativity and your art,

(49:44):
your you have your heart in it, you're passionate about it.
You're helping people, you're in service. You have peace at home.
You get to cry, isolate, lay on the couch, go out,
do whatever it is that you want to do. And
unless a person can come, and that person doesn't have

(50:05):
to be perfect, because nobody's perfect, right, But unless that
person can compliment your life, and unless you can compliment
each other's lives, because I think that's important too, very awesome,
or like that person has to be perfect. I'm raggedy,
but that person has to be perfect.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
You know that's not fair, it doesn't make sense, and
you're just needing problems for everybody. But if you you know,
having someone come and compliment your life where you can
fit each other like a puzzle, right, like a lost
puzzle piece, that's what you want, and that takes time.

(50:43):
But you have created this amazing life for yourself. You
are fly, as you said you fly. You're beautiful, you're smart,
you're determined, you want something. You know what to do
to have it. You have this beautiful energy and wonderful personality,
and that's a gift. Yeah, thank you, gift to whomever

(51:06):
you wind up connecting with, that is a gift. And
I know, uh, and I'll tell you I'm right there
with you.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
I'm single. I know we're gonna be outside this summer.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I'll listen.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I'm gonna be outside for sure. I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
As soon as you come this way, we outside outside,
not too deep outside.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I'm in the right neighborhood. I'm outside.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I'm not out all of the side to be outside.
And I and again, I think it's when you do
the work to create the world that you truly want
to have for yourself. It is sacred. Mhm. It's sacred.

(51:44):
And sometimes, you know, you know, we get lonely, I'm tired.
There are times I'm like, come on, God, really, But
I also know that I know all the work that
it takes to create the life that you really want
to live. I also know what life looks like when
you settle and when you allow yourself to be kind

(52:06):
of put through the ringer for a couple of years
just because you were ready to kind of cut your
you know, your your four year or whatever the thing is,
and things that you settle for and oranges that you
let or apples that you let into your orange field.

(52:27):
It really works out. It's just a matter of time.
So if you're getting into something and you know right
off the bat, because we always know, yeah, we always know.
We always know that it's just a matter of time.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
What you don't get to do, you.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Can try, not you people, you can try. But what
we don't get to do is we don't get to
then turn around and demonize that person.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's something I always tell my friend.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
That bro was raggedy when you met him, and you
know that always you saw, you saw whatever was going on.
We know that is part of our intuition as women.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
That's one of the gifts that we.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Have is that we do know.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
That's a fact. Yeah, and that's something I tell my friend.
I'm like, you're not upset with him, You're more so
disappointed with yourself because you knew exactly what time it was.
When you've got a situation.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Right and unwilling to in that that relationship with yourself,
turn around and be like girl, you know, now if
you just want to have a good time, have a
good time, and go about your business and allow him
to do the same. Do not try to sit here
and like, you know, put window dressing on something that

(53:41):
you know darn well is not.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
You know, if you're.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Looking for a department store, it's a bodega. And then you're.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Mad exactly cause like, come on, girl, like you fooling yeah,
like you know, you're a queen.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Be a queen, be a pen You know, I don't
know how we got on that, but that was you
got so funny.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I was thinking, I'm like, yo, one time when we
do talk, we talk.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, I know, I know, I don't know how we
got on it, but someone needed to hear that. Okay,
someone definitely needed to hear that. So Emina, how can
we support you?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yes, so definitely support me by downloading and subscribing to
the Professional Homegirl Podcast wherever you get your audio from. Also,
I'm always looking for stories, so you can definitely support
me by emailing me at hello at the phgpodcast dot
com and share your story with me. I'm also working
on my third and fourth edition of my coloring books

(54:39):
called the Professional Homegirl Coloring Books, and I'm like super
obsessed with it. I have to give you someone I
see you. But it's an interactive coloring book and for
every page that you're coloring, there's a QR code at
the bottom of the page, so when you scan a
QR code, it takes you to the episode that goes
with the page that you're coloring. Oh that's brilliant, right,
That's what I said, and I'm like, oh my God,

(55:00):
like keep them coming. So the third edition, they are
for adults. But I did a workshop for Charlamagne's Mental
Health Expo and it did really well. But one of
the feedback I was receiving was they want hunting for kids.
So I was like, all right, you know, my podcast
is a little colorful, so I will try to go
through and find some episodes that is teenager friendly. So

(55:23):
the fourth edition will be geared towards teenagers, which I'm
super super excited about. So definitely support me. You can
follow me on Instagram at the Professional Homegirl, on YouTube
and TikTok at the Professional Homegirl and also on Instagram
at the PSG podcast dot com and also you can
find some review can reviews help? Yes?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
So what is uh, what kind of stories. Are you
looking for.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Just any that are just uplifting things that are inspiring.
I'm also been in the space of like interviewing a
lot of professional women or those who are like in
careers and stuff, because I do believe in showing people
that you deserve the hold up space wherever your heart desires.
So I've definitely been interviewing a lot of different professionals.
So if you are in a career, especially a career

(56:09):
where there's not a lot of brownies in it, I
would love to have you on the show. And you know,
I just want to just have a good old time
and Kiki and hopefully we can just aspire and the
listeners that's joining us.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
So okay, thank you. Yeah, I have again enjoyed this
conversation too. And I was, we're you nervous?

Speaker 1 (56:31):
I was, and I'll never get nervous, but I'm like,
because I've been bragging about you, I'm like, oh my god.
Because I was talking to my cousin, you know, being
in the neighborhood and he said something. I said, do
you know who I just spoke to? I was like,
you gotta talk to me correct. I'm like, you know,
want having a conversation with.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
That's right, tell people to talk to you. Correct, they
better be talking to you correct.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Stop it. I am like adopted by Skiat now Like Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I knew that I was going to enjoy this conversation.
The next few conversations that we have are going to
be behind the scenes, yes, key over, you know some
other topics like dating and dreams and building an empire
and all that other God's really key key yes, yes,
But I and I have really enjoyed having this little

(57:24):
chit chat with you, and I have a feeling that
we will continue to talk and there'll be other things
coming up in the future. But I absolutely appreciate you.
I appreciate your energy. I appreciate the work that you're doing.
I love the idea of including teenagers or giving them

(57:46):
some semblance of insight into the stories that you're telling
and the space that you're holding. Because the younger we're
able to connect with people, the less of the apples
and the orange situation that happens, yeah, you know, to
kind of circumvent some of the challenges that we've all

(58:09):
had to face. And I think the younger we can
reach in to help people to understand how to take
care of themselves, how to how to reset, how to
regulate their emotions, how to free and freely express what
they're feeling in a healthy way, in a self nurturing way.
And absolutely the earlier that people learn the importance of

(58:33):
having a relationship with yourself, the better.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yeah you all are.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
You're doing such beautiful, beautiful work. You truly are.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm holding back
my tears, but no, I really need to hear that.
So thank you. I really appreciate you. And also just
the growing of our relationship, Like I feel like you
are something that someone that have always seen from afar.
So just to be able to be not physically up
close personal with you, but just the share this base

(59:01):
with you, it really means a lot. And it also
it gives me hope to what I would like to
become as I continue to grow older and grow my
business and things of that nature. So I really appreciate
everything that you're doing and I'm super excited that we
are connected.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Absolutely all right, Well, this has been a fantastic conversation.
Thank you so much, Ebene for joining me, Thank you
for the nuggets that you dropped. Thank you for your
authenticity and the freedom that you express in everything that
you do, and the realness that you bring to the table.

(59:37):
We need more of that, more and more and more.
And we are wishing you the very very best and
rooting for you and cheerleading for you, and thank you
so much for coming by. And I just I'll follow
you and saying if you enjoyed this episode and if

(59:57):
there's something in this episode that resonates with you, please
like share, tag em and A and myself and let's
start this conversation and let's continue this conversation about dating.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Let's get next time I'm back on the show, we
would have a man and then we're gonna talk about
how we met them. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
That's it, that's it, right, and he'll be talking about, well,
we were walking down the street, you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Fn A, thank you so much, no, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you.