August 4, 2025 • 45 mins
Dan and Neil discuss how small, consistent decisions propel dreams forward and reveal strategies for first responders to discover purpose beyond their service careers.
• Finding new purpose after law enforcement involves utilizing skills built during your first responder career
• God's calling often feels impossibly big because it's meant to be something you can't accomplish without Him
• When facing new challenges, break them down into "micro actions" small enough to slip past mental resistance
• We have approximately 60,000 thoughts daily—80% negative and 95% repetitive—requiring intentional awareness to change
• The Japanese technique "pointing and calling" helps break autopilot thinking and increases present moment awareness
• Like planes that are off-course 90% of the time yet reach their destination, success requires constant course correction
• Even elite performers like Tiger Woods have coaches—finding someone a few steps ahead of you provides invaluable guidance
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
welcome back to another episode of the shared
voices podcast.
This is dan defenbaugh, thefounder and director of the 1042
project.
We are with neil, my new york,neil.
What's up, neil?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
how are you, should we just?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
dance to the music for a little bit.
Come on, let me turn it up alittle bit for you.
Man, neil was with us.
This is part two.
We did another part with Neil,part one.
You got to check that out,check that out.
We're kind of going in a littlestring here about mindset and
(00:43):
motivation and starting new.
So if you haven't checked thatout, check that episode out.
Check it out because that'sgoing to get you ready for this
episode, because, neil, we'regoing to jump right back into it
.
Man we were talking about?
We were talking about makingtiny decisions, small decisions,
small habits, done consistentlyover time.
Moves, dreams.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's how things are built, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's how things are built.
Yep, it's how things are built.
Well said.
So let's pick it back right up.
So somebody's somebody's like,okay, I got this vision.
I wouldn't.
Just, you know, I'm out of lawenforcement.
I felt like I lost my purpose,my identity.
Now I gotta, I gottarestructure.
God's got this new calling onmy life.
It's to go start a nonprofit,or it's to go start a fence
building company, or it's to go,you know, um, go do whatever
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your next chapter in life, cause, again, god calls us to seasons
, neil.
He doesn't call us to lifetime.
Um, jobs that we're strapped to,that we have to identify as,
and people are starting newseasons in their life.
You know, you get a lawenforcement, whether you're in
your fifties, sixties, forties,whatever it may be, and you feel
like your life's kind of over.
What's my purpose, what's myidentity?
That's what I went through.
It's just the beginning.
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You now get to use all of thatstuff that you built during your
first responder career.
You get to take that, utilizeit, identify it what it is and
get to use that skill to nextyour next chapter in your life.
If you do it with intention, ifyou do it with purpose um, you
did.
If you do it, walking with god,I think anything outside of
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god's will is is never going tosucceed.
Um, but I know a lot of youstruggle with that because I
dealt with it.
Um, a lot of our firstresponders struggle with trying
to find something new, a newmission, a new purpose, um,
something bigger than you.
You know, when god puts acalling on your life this is
just my opinion when God puts acalling on your life, neil, the
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calling is usually going to bebigger than you could ever
imagine.
It's going to seem impossible.
It's going to seem greateralmost like a fairy tale.
It's going to seem greateralmost like a fairy tale.
You're going to be like whoa,whoa, whoa.
There's no way I will do that.
There's no way I can do that,losing my train of thought there
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.
But there's no way that I cando that.
Help me out, man, I'm losing mytrain of thought.
What?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
was I saying it's been a long day?
I think what you said right.
There is when God puts acalling on us and we immediately
start thinking to ourselveswell, I can't do that.
That's bigger than me.
A nonprofit.
I never started a nonprofit, Idon't know what that even looks
like Like what are you talkingabout?
That's the subconscious justthrowing up excuses.
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It's throwing up.
We're starting to move intounfamiliar territory, territory
that makes us uncomfortable, andour mind is going to throw up
all these excuses of why wecan't do it.
And then we go back to goingback to something we mentioned
in the first episode.
We go back to dumbing thingsdown to their very micro actions
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so that we can slip it past oursubconscious and our
subconscious won't make thoseexcuses because it doesn't feel
the uncomfortability of actuallydoing something.
That's new.
Yes, and let me say this realquick actually doing something
that's new.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, and let me say this real quick when God puts a
calling on our life that feelsgreater, it feels impossible, it
feels too big, it's becauseit's supposed to.
If you could do it on your own,you would not need God.
God's not going to call you tosomething that he's not going to
be involved in.
He's not going to call you tosomething that he's not going to
be involved in.
He's not going to call you tosomething that isn't going to be
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great.
He's not going to call you tosomething that you could have
done on your own.
That's not what God does.
God doesn't call the peoplethat are already equipped.
He equips the people that hecalls.
Yes, and if he's calling you,he's equipping you.
I know you're going to havelike an imposter syndrome at
first, just like you did whenyou started your first responder
career.
That we all went through.
But God's put this calling onyour life.
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It's supposed to be bigger thanyou because it is, but when you
add God to it, you know so manyof us people in our life.
We're here and we're saying Godhey, come over here.
Come over here and bless whatI'm doing.
Look at me.
Look at me.
I'm doing this great thing.
Come over here, come on, blessit.
And we want God to come overand do that.
And that's not how it works.
We need to be asking God hey,where are you blessing and where
do you want me to get under?
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Where are you going?
Where are you calling me tofollow under you?
When we start asking God that,instead of asking him to bless
what we're doing, instead sayGod, what are you doing and
where do you want me in that?
That's when your dreams andstuff are going to start to
unfold and God's going to startto work for you.
Because you're no longer doingit for yourself.
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You're no longer doing it toprove to yourself.
You're doing it because God'sgot a mission on your heart to
change people's lives.
And I know that, neil, becauseI've lived it and I still live
it.
I still it feels greatEverything I'm doing.
I never in a million yearswould imagine doing this.
It's greater than me.
It's bigger than me.
But this whole time I kept justtaking one step and trusting
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that God will be there.
And he has been, step by step,and what I learned is he
actually meets you in that stepof fear as you're doing it A lot
of times.
It's not.
He's not going to call mebefore it, as you're taking that
step and getting ready to plantyour foot.
Um, that's when he'll do it.
That's when he'll he will makethat the ground secure for you
to step on.
It was because of your faith inwhat God did.
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Now you know, none of thishappens because of of how great
we are what we've done.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It all happens through God.
I put a visualization on thatthen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Throw it, bro Go.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So because some people have, like they can't
wrap their head around Godhaving that vision and giving us
that, calling and supporting usand walking with us.
For me, god lives in theheavens.
The heavens is the sky and hegets that bird's eye view over
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my life.
When I'm walking in the forest,all I can see is the trees.
I can't see the trail off to myright, off my left.
I can't see that I'm headingtowards a cliff and I'm gonna
fall off that I.
I can't see any of that becauseI'm too close.
God has that bird's eye viewand he may be directing me to go
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off to the right because I'mabout to step into a rattlesnake
pit come on and having thatfaith of just saying okay, like
I'm putting it in his hands,really does bring peace and
calmness over you so I love that.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So how do we take god's calling that's greater
than us?
We now now get in line with Godright, Because we want to make
sure we're all growing in thesame direction.
So now we're making our smallsteps.
We have our goal.
We want to do this.
We want to start a nonprofit,we want to start this job.
We want to do this ministry,whatever it is.
We've now got God on board.
God's given you a calling.
You're now stepping out.
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You're reaching out tocommunity to get help.
You're making small decisions,like Neil talked about in the
last episode, making smallchanges.
That doesn't feel like it's somuch, Neil, that you can't do it
.
If you want to go back overthat just for a little bit, and
then let's dive into how we gofrom there to the next step.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So you don't feel overburdened, right?
Whenever God gives us our call,whatever that call may be, the
first thing that happens is westart throwing up red flags of
why I can't do it.
I've never done that before,I'm not smart enough, I don't
have the money, I don't have thecapabilities, I don't know how
to run a nonprofit, I don't knowhow to run a business.
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I've never dealt with kidsbefore, so I can't open up that
youth club.
I've never done any of thisbefore.
That's your subconsciousthrowing up those flags, and
then we break it down into themicro actions.
One client where um, I justwrote an article about this
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where she wanted to step backfrom her business and in doing
so, her subconscious threw upall these red flags and I said,
okay, well, what are the redflags?
So let's, let's go here, thengo list out all those red flags,
list them out, all the excuseswhy you can't do something.
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I'm not smart enough.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, for me it was yes, I'm not, I don't know how
to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I've never done this.
I don't have the tools.
I'll do it next week.
Which one of those excuses doyou want to work on?
So, for this individual clientthat I was working on, she said
well, one of the things I haveto do is communication with the
clients, and if I take a stepback from the business and I let
the manager run the more of theday to day, then I'm not going
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to be able to communicate withthe customers, the clients, and
if I don't communicate with them, there's a certain way I
communicate, like if I don'tcommunicate with them, then
they're going to leave becausethey're used to me.
Okay, so that's one level deep.
(10:14):
Let's take it another leveldeep.
How can we, how can we fix thatso that you don't have to
physically be the person incommunication with the customer?
Well, I can train individuals.
I can actually bringindividuals into the
conversations that I have.
Right, I can create that visionof I want to step away from the
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business and I come up with allthe excuses why I can't.
Those are surface level excuses.
I pick one of them and then Isolve for that one.
So it's communication.
How many different ways can youcommunicate with your customers
.
Which one of these ways are wegoing to work on first?
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And we just keep peeling theonion skin back until we get
down to the root cause of it andthen build up from that root
cause.
So I had this client.
She literally did exactly that.
She listed out all the ways shecommunicates with the clients.
She brought in her manager onthose communications so that the
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manager can see in real timehow the communications were
going.
And then they did an after thecall.
They would sit together and goover.
Did you see, when I said thisto the client, they did this.
Did you see, when she felt alittle uneasy, I said this to
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make it more comfortable for her.
I showed compassion here.
But over here I drew the linein the sand.
This is why I did those things.
And you're training up theindividual so that you can take
that step back.
So in wanting to make that movewhatever that move is for you,
wanting to make that move,whatever that move is for you,
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the listener, whatever that moveis make those actions really
small.
So it's not about I don't knowhow to start a nonprofit, it's
about who do I need to speakwith, who has started nonprofits
that I can go talk to.
What are the steps, the actualmicro steps of starting a
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nonprofit?
Now there could be 20 microsteps to start a nonprofit,
right?
I've never started a nonprofit,I don't know, but I'm going to
attack one of those.
Maybe I just pick theregulations of a nonprofit right
, because this's governmentregulations to be classified as
a nonprofit.
So maybe now, who do I have totalk to for that Nonprofit?
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It's money, that's an accountant.
Let me go talk to an accountant.
Let me go talk to an attorneyand just break them down into
micro steps, because going tohave a conversation with an
accountant is not that big of adeal.
And if it is a big deal ifyou're throwing up red flags
because going to have aconversation with an accountant
is not that big of a deal, andif it is a big deal if you're
throwing up red flags becauseI'm not a money person, I don't
understand that language.
Bring somebody with you thatdoes that's right.
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Micro it down and build up yourvocabulary before you go and
see them.
Just keep microing the actiondown, just keep chipping away at
it until you get to a pointwhere the red flags aren't
appearing.
Start there and then work yourway up.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And it's not about perfection, it's about
progression.
It's about progressing everyday.
It's not about perfection.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
If you wait for perfection, you'll never start.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's it.
That's why, if you keep saying,hey, I'll do it tomorrow, I'll
get started tomorrow, next yearI'll do this, I'll do it, then
I'm telling you you're not goingto do it monday never.
Comes yes, you just have tostart a micro step and get going
and get.
When you have something likethis, an idea, a goal, a vision,
I will say this, neil becareful who you tell that to at
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the beginning.
Make sure somebody, make suresomebody you trust, who you
believe, somebody who will, whowill believe in you and not
somebody who'd be like dude,what are you talking about?
You can't do that, like youcan't start a nonprofit for
mental health dude, you were acrap show.
That's not the person, causethat'll squash your dream and
they'll walk away from it.
You has to be somebody whosupports you, who believes in
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you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
tell them, so I'm, I'm actually in.
So what you said is 100accurate.
But let me just throw that outthere.
I'm from the other camp, I'mfrom.
I'm gonna tell everybody.
And when that individual comesand says you, you're out of your
mind.
(14:47):
You think a cop can start anonprofit.
The hell are you talking about?
Watch me, that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yep and you're not doing it for them.
Anyway, you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Gasoline, yep but that, that that's my mindset,
like my mindset's like yeah,okay, game on now yeah, you lit
a fire all right, like, okay, ina year you're gonna be coming
to me asking me uh, I just gotlaid off.
Do you have any positions atyour nonprofit that I can come
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to?
And I'm going to graciously putmy arm around them and invite
them in, because that's how itis.
But in the beginning you justexpect it, expect that people
aren't going to believe.
And it's not about you, it'sabout them.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
There you go, there it is they.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They don't want you to prove to them that it could
be done, because in you provingto them that it could be done,
they feel as though, well, Icould have did it and I didn't.
So I'm a failure, I'm a loser.
It's agree, it's a.
You're holding up the mirror tothem and they don't like that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yep, that dude, that's what you just said is
wisdom.
People take that in, soak it in, chew it up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's why it's not about you.
I'm telling everybody, and forthose people that are like you
can't do that, all right, likeyeah, right, like I don't even
hear it, like, so I'm gonna getto something in a second that
that tells you why I don't hearit that's great like I don't, I
don't even I, I automaticallyrepel it.
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Now, I wasn't always like that.
I.
I created this, this strategy,this process we're going to talk
about in a second, and in doingthat, in me realizing what was
going on, I was able to nowrepel it so that I don't even
allow it in.
Like Jim Rohn talks aboutguarding the gates of your mind,
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I don't even let it in.
I'm like, yeah, you're an idiot, like whatever.
Like go over there and play inthe sandbox or something.
I'm going over here, I'm goingto go do my thing.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's biblical.
Jesus said the same thing Shakethe dust off your feet and go
on.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
The next one.
If you want to come along withme, have at it, Come on, let's
go.
But if you don't, so be it.
But you want to know somethingagain why?
I tell everybody is it just, itjust wasn't.
They weren't ready for it toland on them, they weren't ready
for the opportunity of memoving forward, proposed right.
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It doesn't mean they're notgoing to be ready six months
from now and they're going tosay oh, you know what Dan said,
he was starting a nonprofit.
I, I, I need to be involved inthat.
And now they're going to have adirection to move in and
they're going to use you as aresource.
And that's why I believe intelling everybody.
But you are right, People aregoing to come out and they're
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going to be negative.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And you have to understand that you have to
repel them.
Yeah, seeing, for me, I didn'tfeel comfortable with that,
knowing that some people would,and I know this at this point in
my life when god put thiscalling on my life I'm still a
mess man.
I'm coming out of years ofaddiction, crap show, so the
thought of me doing, you know,starting an organization like
1042 project was was animpossible thing.
That's why I was very carefulwith who I told at first,
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because I needed somebody to atleast Believe in you.
Maybe I needed validation inwhat God told me is true, right,
yes, yeah.
And then when I got that fromthe people who I knew would
support me, then it was easy toshare with everybody.
But I wasn't in a place at thatpoint where I would be willing
to share it with just anybody,cause it was so we all need
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different, different people inour lives.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Right, we all need a coach, we all need that friend
that's just going to give it toa straight, like no bullshit.
Yes, we all need thecheerleader that's going to
motivate us and be like you cando it, like let's go.
You need that, like we all needlittle pieces of all those
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individuals.
The way I deal with negativepeople also is deal with
negative people also is.
Uh, I look at it as I askmyself this question when I die,
is that person going to standat my graveside in a
thunderstorm and cry for me?
How many people in your lifewill stand at your gravesite in
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a thunderstorm and cry for you?
there's not many no so if you'renot one of those people, you
have nothing to say to me yeahbut if you are one of those
people now, I'll take some, some, I'll heed, I'll yield to what
you say and I'll process it andthen I'll make my decision from
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there.
Right, because my mother is oneof those people that will cry
at my gravesite for me, right,my mother didn't want me to be a
cop, nor a fireman so if Iwould have heeded that.
I wouldn't be here now, right.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So there's some give and take with it, but what I was
talking about, what Ireferenced earlier, was I read a
study and that study said Iread a stat, and that stat said
we have about 60,000 thoughts aday.
80% of those thoughts arenegative, 95% are repetitive.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Say that again.
Say it for the people in theback 60,000 thoughts per day.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
80% of those thoughts are negative, 95% are
repetitive 85% are negative.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
95% are repetitive.
Repetitive that's wild.
That's a wild stat yes.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Now, when I read that , I was like it was like a gut
punch to me, like wonder why I'mon this hamster wheel going
around and around and around ina circle, because 95 of my
thoughts are repetitive andpredominantly those are negative
.
So I'm living in this likenegative loop.
So how do we change that?
How do we become defaultpositive as opposed to default
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negative?
Right, if I said to you, um, ifI made a comment to you and
that was a negative comment or aperception, so if I said to you
something like 50% of our dayis spent in autopilot, right,
are you that 50% of our day isspent in autopilot?
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Is that good or is that bad?
Do you say like, oh my God, 50%of our day is spent in
autopilot, that's horrible.
Or, woohoo, I don't.
Oh my God, 50% of my day isspent in autopilot, that's
horrible.
Or woohoo, I don't have tothink for 50% of the day.
Like that means I can thinkabout other things, right, yeah,
so where does your initialreaction go?
That's your default thoughtprocess, right?
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That's what your mindset is.
So do you lean more positive ormore negative?
Where is it if I told you,we're going to drop right now
and do 20 push-ups, and we dropand do 20 push-ups, and then I'm
like, all right, we're going todrop and do 25 push-ups.
So you're like, well, that'sonly five more.
We already did 20, so I have todo five more.
Or are you like oh my god, Igotta do 25, so that's 45 total.
I can't do 40, 40.
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Like, where, like where's yourmind going?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It depends on the day , neil depends on the day, right
?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Is it before or after dinner, exactly so.
So what I'm getting at is, ifwe have 80% of our thoughts that
are negative and 95 arerepetitive, how can we change
that?
If we can change the amount ofnegative thoughts we have, then
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those thoughts that arerepetitive, more of them are
positive, and it puts us in abetter frame, a better frame of
mind.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So how do we get there?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We use air awareness, interrupt and repeat, uh,
replace.
So I'm going to become aware ofthe thought.
How do I become aware of mythoughts?
Because remember now I said 60000 thoughts a day.
That's kind of like the averagenumber, 60 000 thoughts a day.
We're only consciously comingup with a couple of hundred.
Maybe that we, like, areconscious of, like.
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When I first was asked thatquestion, I'm like, yeah, we
have, probably.
I have maybe a couple ofhundred thoughts a day, like
60,000.
A lot of that's in thebackground, just automatically
playing on the reel.
So we have to become aware ofwhen we have those thoughts,
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when we become, how do to becomeaware of when we have those
thoughts?
How do we become aware?
We slow shit down, we removeourselves from that.
50% autopilot.
We really do spend 50% of ourwaking day in autopilot.
And if you don't believe me,the last time you drove on the
highway you drove past threeexits and you don't remember the
three exits.
Or you drove home from work andyou pass the gas station but
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you don't remember passing thegas station.
Or my favorite is when youfight with the light switch in
the bathroom, when you go to usethe restroom in a blackout.
I know I'm in a blackout, butI'm still fighting with the
light switch, like why is thelight coming on?
It's because I'm in a blackout,but I'm still fighting with the
light switch, like why isn'tthe light coming on?
It's because I'm in a blackout.
Oh man, and you do that all thetime.
Like every time I walk into therestroom during a blackout, I
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turn the same light, switch onand I'm mad at the light for not
coming on, and then I rememberI'm in a blackout.
So that's autopilot.
We live our days in autopilotand our mind creates autopilot
those automatic behaviors thatwe take over and over and over
again, because our mind is hitwith something like a million
bits per second and we can onlyprocess 120 bits per second.
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So where are all those otherbits going?
The more things that we canautomatically do habits, read
habits into that, the morethings we have habits around,
the more stuff we can process,because we don't have to worry
about those things that we'vealready given away to
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automaticity.
So how do we actuallyphysically become aware?
Because these thoughts areflowing through our head First
we slow things down.
How do we slow things down?
I want everybody to start doingthis right now.
You can do this when you drive.
The only time you can't do thisis when you're sleeping.
Okay, it's a technique that wasdeveloped in Japan in their rail
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system.
In their rail system, they werehaving a very high rate of
accidents.
They instituted what they callShisha Kenko and they saw an 85%
reduction in incidences almostimmediately.
85%, and what Shishakinkotranslated means is point and
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call.
So they would literally havetheir workers in their rail
system.
Their engineers would greensignal go, red signal stop.
We're going 50 kilometers,that's the speed limit.
Their conductors would look ontheir platforms and be like the
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left is clear, the right isclear, the platform is clear,
the train may go.
85% reduction because they wereslowing things down.
They were actually takingthemselves out of automaticity.
They weren't living inautopilot anymore, so instead of
just pulling into the stationand then leaving the station,
(26:58):
they were taking that second tomake sure everything was clear.
And they would catch that babystroller in the subway car doors
.
They would catch that kid thatran onto the train and the
mother that ended up stayingback on the platform.
They would catch that a redsignal was coming up because
they were slowing things down.
How do we slow things down?
(27:19):
We walk around and we say likeright now I'm going to do it
Glass of water I point at myglass of water.
Water microphone, light, man,wall sign, phone, laptop.
I'm starting to pay attentionto those things that commonly I
(27:41):
wouldn't pay attention to.
So I'm starting to live more inthe present moment instead of
just letting things speed by melike I'm on the highway.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But you had to be intentional about it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I have to be intentional about it.
I have to call things out, Ihave to slow things down.
I have to live in the momentinstead of always trying to race
to the next thing.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But, neil, that's what we did in our line of work.
Buddy, yes, when you were a cop, that's what you did.
When you were a firefighter,that's what you did.
Now you want us to quit doingthat.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So I will counter that and call bullshit on that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Throw it what you got .
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, we've raced, but in racing we were picking up
details all over the place.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Unpack that.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You drove 90 miles an hour down a city street, but
you cleared that intersectionbefore you went through it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, with precision.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And you cleared it quickly, right, think, think,
think, think, yep.
So you were racing around aleft-hand turn really quick.
You were racing around aleft-hand turn really quick.
You weren't just payingattention to that turn, but you
were giving that quick glanceoff to your left to make sure
that a kid wasn't running offthe corner across the street
(28:58):
because he saw a cop car and hewas like, hey, cop, yeah, I'm
going to wave to you.
Right, right, you were, you were, you were picking things out.
You were looking a block aheadof you, defensive EVOC driving.
Right, you were looking a blockahead of you to pick things out
.
That guy may end up coming out,that guy just got into his car.
(29:20):
He may pull off the curb.
All of that stuff.
You were picking all of thisstuff out.
You just you got so good at ityou didn't realize you were
doing it.
It was just what we did andthat's what we were talking
about in the last episode.
That was a tool we had when wewere on the job and now we we
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could bring that tool to nowbeing off the job, being retired
or separated from service.
That's one of the tools that wehad that we did very well, we
picked up on these thingsimmediately, because that's just
what we did, so becoming aware,slowing down instead of racing
(30:06):
right, slowing down instead ofracing right, because in that,
in that race, we were very goodat picking things up, but there
was a lot of things that wemissed also, yeah, right,
because we were moving so fastbecause of the emergency, of the
fact, right, there was anofficer calling for assistance,
there was a baby not breathing,there was a manhole of doing a
(30:27):
robbery at gunpoint, like theywere.
so now I'm talking about slowingdown, but still using our
ability to perceive everythingthat's going on, to pick up on
all the little nuances.
Now we're doing itintentionally at a slower rate.
(30:48):
When we were on the job,because we had to move so
quickly, because lives were onthe line, we had to do that much
quicker and in that quicknessthings did fall through the
cracks.
Now things don't fall throughthe cracks because we're
attacking it intentionally.
So slowing things down likethat and becoming aware of
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things in our environment.
Now, when we have the thought,we become aware of that thought
because we're used to being inthe present moment, we're used
to calling bullshit out.
So now we grabbed that thoughtand we're like is this thought
(31:32):
serving us?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yep.
And you know, once you get thecourage and you start doing
these micro steps and you startmoving forward, you have to have
intentional direction.
If and I had to learn this withour organization if, if, say
you, you take off on an airplaneand and you get up there and
all of a sudden the pilot says,hey, we've taken off, but we've
(31:56):
lost all electrical, um, all ofour gadgets, all of our screens.
We have no idea where we'reheaded and what direction we're
headed, but we know that we'll,we'll get there on time.
Um, would you feel comfortable?
I mean, you wouldn't, cause theplane has no idea what
direction it's headed, has noidea where it's intended landing
(32:16):
spot is.
Um, you're up there justrandomly roaming around with no,
with no direction and nointention.
We have to do that with ourlife.
We can't just take our plane upthere and try to figure and not
have a.
A plan of.
This is our next step, this isour, this is our goal.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
We have to have that, that, that plan, so ahead of
time, if you were in californiaand that plane took off and you
lost your instruments and youwere headed to new york, if that
plane was just off, if you hada really good pilot and the
pilot was like I could do this,but the pilot was off just one
degree.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
You ain't going to New York.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
He would land in Baltimore.
Yeah, so just like, bring upyour Google Maps.
California to New York it'scoast to coast.
New York to Baltimore it'sprobably a three.
New York to Baltimore, it'sprobably a three and a half hour
drive.
So three and a half hours isprobably 200-ish miles, but
(33:19):
you're going to be off andthat's why you need that
direction and you need to alwayscourse correct.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yep, alright, you got eight minutes to bring this all
home.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Eight minutes to always course correct, yep.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
All right, you got eight minutes to bring this all
home.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Eight minutes to bring it home.
Land the plane.
Do you have a big idea?
Land the plane, I'll have youon in future.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I'll have you on in future episodes I'm going to
keep on the plane analogy for asecond.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Because that plane, when the instruments are working
on that plane and you're flyingfrom California to New York,
that plane, when the instrumentsare working on that plane and
you're flying from California toNew York, that plane is off
course something like 90% of thetime, but it still lands at the
exact location that it set out.
So don't be afraid of bumps inthe road, because bumps in the
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road are going to take place.
You just course correct.
And that's where intentionalitycomes in.
I know I'm going over there.
Sometimes it's not going to bea straight line.
There's going to be hills, soyou're going to go up, you're
going to come down, there'sgoing to be hills and valleys
and you're going to have to goleft and right.
Sometimes there's going to be aboulder in your way and you
can't go through the boulder.
Sometimes you got to go aroundthe boulder and planes do it all
(34:25):
the time like Like they flyfrom California to New York.
It's something like 90% of thetime they're off course.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I love that analogy and they just do those course
corrections and that's what wehave to do.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Don't think, because an obstacle got thrown up, you
just throw your hands up now andget.
No, it's an obstacle Like.
It's just like being back onthe job.
Obstacles happen.
We problem solve.
Find a solution around thatobstacle through the obstacle,
over the obstacle, we solve forthe obstacle and then we move on
.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Tiger Woods has a golf coach.
Tiger Woods has a golf coach.
Peyton Manning had aquarterback coach.
We need coaches, Neal Michael.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Jordan had a quarterback coach.
We need coaches.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Neil Michael Jordan had a coach we have to have a
coach, no matter how good we are, we have to have a coach and
know that this is okay yes, thecoach sees the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The coach sees that bird's eye view.
The coach has experienced otherindividuals and can now relate
what one individual has done tothis individual that he's
presently working with.
Yep, coaches can see the biggerpicture.
(35:44):
Is they see the bigger pictureand they can draw that bigger
picture out of you.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And that's why, guys, if, if you're, if you're, if
you're wanting to get a mindsetcoach, I highly recommend it.
If you need, if you're goinginto business, you need a
business coach.
If you need a whatever it maybe you get back into interview
and get an interview coach.
Like there's coaches out there,there's people now that
individual people that will taketime and train you and help you
(36:12):
get to where you want to be.
You don't have to do this aloneyou don't have to find it.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yes, find a coach that has so.
So the one caveat to find acoach is, if I was going to
start a business, I wouldn'twant Jeff Bezos to be my coach.
Now, that might soundcounterintuitive, but Jeff Bezos
doesn't remember what it's liketo be me in startup phase.
(36:39):
So I'm going to find mybusiness coach as someone that's
three years ahead of me,because that person still knows
what it feels like to be me andthat person has walked through
the steps that I'm going to walkthrough.
(37:00):
Starting a business in 1997,when Amazon was started roughly
right, is a lot different thanstarting a business now, in 2025
.
It's just a different world.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
True.
So if they want some coaching,neil, if they want some coaching
, they want to hear more aboutwhat you have to say.
They got, man.
They want to get this mindsetmoving in the right direction.
How can they get a hold ofCoach Neil with New York, neil,
how can they get a hold of yourbuddy?
And coaching is different thantherapy guys.
It Coach Neil with New YorkNeil, how can they get ahold of
your buddy?
And coaching is different thantherapy guys.
It's like we've talked about itbefore.
Neil's not a counselor or atherapist.
I'm not a counselor or atherapist.
(37:34):
We're not doctors, we'recoaching.
We take what we know, ourexperiences, our training, and
we help people get more out ofthemselves than they can by
themselves.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
He's a coach and with coaching, Neil with coaching.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Neil, you guys, you, you can.
There's no like licensecertificate.
So it's there's no, you cantalk to somebody from out of
state, right?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, so there's no likely right, there's no
licensing Like there is withtherapy and doctors and lawyers.
We, you can only operate incertain, uh boundaries yep.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So, guys, you can reach out to neil if you want to
get some coaching.
Neil, uh, how'd they get a holdof your buddy?
How?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
so it's.
It's simply my name, neil atneil shipcom spell your last
name s c?
Uh sam charlie henry oscar,eddie paul paul Sam Charlie
Henry Aska, eddie Paul Paul.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You guys reach out to him.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And, like, the job of the coach is to hold up a
mirror.
The job of the coach is to beyour friend.
The job of the coach is to makeyou a better person, to level
you up, to draw out thegreatness that's inside of you.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And you want to help them with that right now.
That's what you're dedicated to.
That's what you're dedicated inyour life.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's literally what I do now.
Like I helped civilians when Iwas a cop at a fireman, I helped
civilians in their time of need.
Now I help first responders increating that future vision for
where they want their life to goand then how to actually build
(39:14):
the roadmap to get there.
What are the micro steps thatwe have to take?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
So, guys, people, god's been talking to you, Maybe
a friend's been talking to yousaying, hey, you know you should
do this, you should do that.
Or somebody saying, hey, you'rereally good at this, maybe you
should do that.
And you just have a goal onyour mind, a new beginning.
Let's get over the fear.
The growth is right on theother side of that fear.
Let's get a coach.
Let's get somebody to help us,just like we need a football
(39:41):
coach.
Let's get community Reach outto the 1042 Project.
That's what we are.
We're a large peer supportorganization outside your
department.
Join us for our, our peersupport groups.
Um, get a hold of neil, get ahold of all of our other people
that's been on our podcast andget moving forward.
Um, you've heard me say itbefore when a rocket takes off,
(40:01):
three quarters or more of thefuel is burnt during the takeoff
phase.
Yes, once it's up and going, ithardly runs on any fuel,
because the hardest part isgetting started look at the
space shuttle it's got.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
This is getting started.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Let a coach, help you get started, because it's the
hardest part.
You can reach out to a coachand just say hey, I need help.
This is where I'm at.
It doesn't matter where you are.
They will help you.
They're not going to shame youand be like what are you doing?
You't do.
You can't start a business likethat.
You don't even know what theheck you're talking about.
No, no, no, no, that's notwhat's going to happen.
They're going to coach you andhelp you get to where you want
(40:35):
to be.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
So reach out to a coach, reach out to us, and I do
want to pray real Before we gointo prayer.
If I give you a link, you couldput that link in the
description or something.
So I'm going to give you a linkto what I call a freedom call
and it's a 30-minute call withme and literally it's kind of
(41:05):
like the first coaching call.
I'm not there to sell youanything.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
It would be the first coaching call.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm not there to sell you anything.
It would be the first coachingcall, like what my purpose is,
or where I want my life to go,or I need a little bit of
direction.
Use it for that, so I'll shootyou over the link so that you
can have that and I'll add itinto the description and stuff,
guys.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So I'll add it to that and thank you for saying
that.
That's great, so it's kind oflike a free consultation.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, it's exactly what it is.
Okay, love it, love it, it's.
It's well.
It's not a cancel, it's a freecoaching call.
We'll call it a free coachingcall as opposed to consultation,
because consultation is I tellyou what to do.
A coaching call I draw thingsout of you that's right.
It is a little nuanced there.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
No, thank you for clarifying that.
But, guys, if you're at homeand you have this on your heart
and you want to get started, youwant to have this new season,
you want to be part of the 1042project as an ambassador or
mentor, and you're just, you'reworried or you're scared, you
don't know what to do next orhow to do it.
Get over that fear, reach outand I just pray.
I was going to pray real quick,god.
That, the Heavenly Father, forall the listeners that are
(42:12):
listening, god, that are maybefeeling like they lost their
purpose, they lost their hope,they're not sure why they're
even here anymore.
God, I just ask that you speakto them and you remind them who
they are and you remind themthat you are not done with them.
If they still have a heartbeat,they have a mission.
God, we ask that you remind themof that mission.
Give them the courage and thepower, power that they don't
(42:35):
have on their own, god.
Give them the power that theyneed to get started and to get
moving in the right direction,to walking out the calling on
their life, the gifts thatyou've given them, father.
Have them reach out to somebodylike us if they need help,
Reach out to coaches and, mostimportantly, god, that they
reach out to you, because noneof this matters without you,
(42:55):
without your forgiveness, yourlove for us, your fatherly
wisdom.
None of this matters withoutyou.
We do this for you, god.
We just ask that you blessevery listener, you bring
healing to them and let themknow that they are loved and
they are a son of God.
We thank you, father, in Jesus'name and Neil amen, brother,
(43:18):
thank you so so much.
Did you have fun?
Yeah, dude, did you have somefun?
Man, that was good.
I want to have you on moreoften.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, no, I'm here to serve, Like this is my call and
I resisted this call.
I resisted this call.
I did too.
And like you talk about God andlike he had to take the
baseball bat out and just startclubbing me, Like wake up, Like
(43:51):
this is what you should be doingand uh, it's not a coincidence
that you and I are talking rightnow.
Yeah, god's got plans for you.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
God's got plans for you.
God's going to show you andremind you how much he loves you
, how much you are enough theway you are, and uh, and yeah,
this is no accident, my friend.
We met for a reason and I'mexcited to see where.
I'm excited to see where ourfriendship goes.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
All right, my brother .
Speaker 1 (44:17):
All right, buddy, oh good.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
If you need anything, use me as a resource, like you
have my number, like all of thatgood stuff.
I really am here to serve.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I love it.
I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
All right, good talking with you, dan.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
All right, buddy, take care.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Good to see you.
Take care Bye.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Thank you for tuning in and just a reminder, we are a
501c3.
If you guys can support us.
You can go to our website or,if you know an organization or a
company or your church may wantto get involved in supporting
1042 Project's mission ofequipping, restoring,
repurposing our first responders, please reach out to us at
10-42projectorg.
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We need your help.
We need your support.
If you can't give financially,please be willing to share the
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God's doing.
Thank you and have a blessedweek.
welcome back to another episode of the shared
voices podcast.
This is dan defenbaugh, thefounder and director of the 1042
project.
We are with neil, my new york,neil.
What's up, neil?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
how are you, should we just?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
dance to the music for a little bit.
Come on, let me turn it up alittle bit for you.
Man, neil was with us.
This is part two.
We did another part with Neil,part one.
You got to check that out,check that out.
We're kind of going in a littlestring here about mindset and
(00:43):
motivation and starting new.
So if you haven't checked thatout, check that episode out.
Check it out because that'sgoing to get you ready for this
episode, because, neil, we'regoing to jump right back into it
.
Man we were talking about?
We were talking about makingtiny decisions, small decisions,
small habits, done consistentlyover time.
Moves, dreams.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's how things are built, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's how things are built.
Yep, it's how things are built.
Well said.
So let's pick it back right up.
So somebody's somebody's like,okay, I got this vision.
I wouldn't.
Just, you know, I'm out of lawenforcement.
I felt like I lost my purpose,my identity.
Now I gotta, I gottarestructure.
God's got this new calling onmy life.
It's to go start a nonprofit,or it's to go start a fence
building company, or it's to go,you know, um, go do whatever
(01:27):
your next chapter in life, cause, again, god calls us to seasons
, neil.
He doesn't call us to lifetime.
Um, jobs that we're strapped to,that we have to identify as,
and people are starting newseasons in their life.
You know, you get a lawenforcement, whether you're in
your fifties, sixties, forties,whatever it may be, and you feel
like your life's kind of over.
What's my purpose, what's myidentity?
That's what I went through.
It's just the beginning.
(01:49):
You now get to use all of thatstuff that you built during your
first responder career.
You get to take that, utilizeit, identify it what it is and
get to use that skill to nextyour next chapter in your life.
If you do it with intention, ifyou do it with purpose um, you
did.
If you do it, walking with god,I think anything outside of
(02:12):
god's will is is never going tosucceed.
Um, but I know a lot of youstruggle with that because I
dealt with it.
Um, a lot of our firstresponders struggle with trying
to find something new, a newmission, a new purpose, um,
something bigger than you.
You know, when god puts acalling on your life this is
just my opinion when God puts acalling on your life, neil, the
(02:33):
calling is usually going to bebigger than you could ever
imagine.
It's going to seem impossible.
It's going to seem greateralmost like a fairy tale.
It's going to seem greateralmost like a fairy tale.
You're going to be like whoa,whoa, whoa.
There's no way I will do that.
There's no way I can do that,losing my train of thought there
(02:55):
.
But there's no way that I cando that.
Help me out, man, I'm losing mytrain of thought.
What?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
was I saying it's been a long day?
I think what you said right.
There is when God puts acalling on us and we immediately
start thinking to ourselveswell, I can't do that.
That's bigger than me.
A nonprofit.
I never started a nonprofit, Idon't know what that even looks
like Like what are you talkingabout?
That's the subconscious justthrowing up excuses.
(03:24):
It's throwing up.
We're starting to move intounfamiliar territory, territory
that makes us uncomfortable, andour mind is going to throw up
all these excuses of why wecan't do it.
And then we go back to goingback to something we mentioned
in the first episode.
We go back to dumbing thingsdown to their very micro actions
(03:47):
so that we can slip it past oursubconscious and our
subconscious won't make thoseexcuses because it doesn't feel
the uncomfortability of actuallydoing something.
That's new.
Yes, and let me say this realquick actually doing something
that's new.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, and let me say this real quick when God puts a
calling on our life that feelsgreater, it feels impossible, it
feels too big, it's becauseit's supposed to.
If you could do it on your own,you would not need God.
God's not going to call you tosomething that he's not going to
be involved in.
He's not going to call you tosomething that he's not going to
be involved in.
He's not going to call you tosomething that isn't going to be
(04:28):
great.
He's not going to call you tosomething that you could have
done on your own.
That's not what God does.
God doesn't call the peoplethat are already equipped.
He equips the people that hecalls.
Yes, and if he's calling you,he's equipping you.
I know you're going to havelike an imposter syndrome at
first, just like you did whenyou started your first responder
career.
That we all went through.
But God's put this calling onyour life.
(04:51):
It's supposed to be bigger thanyou because it is, but when you
add God to it, you know so manyof us people in our life.
We're here and we're saying Godhey, come over here.
Come over here and bless whatI'm doing.
Look at me.
Look at me.
I'm doing this great thing.
Come over here, come on, blessit.
And we want God to come overand do that.
And that's not how it works.
We need to be asking God hey,where are you blessing and where
do you want me to get under?
(05:11):
Where are you going?
Where are you calling me tofollow under you?
When we start asking God that,instead of asking him to bless
what we're doing, instead sayGod, what are you doing and
where do you want me in that?
That's when your dreams andstuff are going to start to
unfold and God's going to startto work for you.
Because you're no longer doingit for yourself.
(05:32):
You're no longer doing it toprove to yourself.
You're doing it because God'sgot a mission on your heart to
change people's lives.
And I know that, neil, becauseI've lived it and I still live
it.
I still it feels greatEverything I'm doing.
I never in a million yearswould imagine doing this.
It's greater than me.
It's bigger than me.
But this whole time I kept justtaking one step and trusting
(05:57):
that God will be there.
And he has been, step by step,and what I learned is he
actually meets you in that stepof fear as you're doing it A lot
of times.
It's not.
He's not going to call mebefore it, as you're taking that
step and getting ready to plantyour foot.
Um, that's when he'll do it.
That's when he'll he will makethat the ground secure for you
to step on.
It was because of your faith inwhat God did.
(06:18):
Now you know, none of thishappens because of of how great
we are what we've done.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It all happens through God.
I put a visualization on thatthen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Throw it, bro Go.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So because some people have, like they can't
wrap their head around Godhaving that vision and giving us
that, calling and supporting usand walking with us.
For me, god lives in theheavens.
The heavens is the sky and hegets that bird's eye view over
(06:52):
my life.
When I'm walking in the forest,all I can see is the trees.
I can't see the trail off to myright, off my left.
I can't see that I'm headingtowards a cliff and I'm gonna
fall off that I.
I can't see any of that becauseI'm too close.
God has that bird's eye viewand he may be directing me to go
(07:18):
off to the right because I'mabout to step into a rattlesnake
pit come on and having thatfaith of just saying okay, like
I'm putting it in his hands,really does bring peace and
calmness over you so I love that.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So how do we take god's calling that's greater
than us?
We now now get in line with Godright, Because we want to make
sure we're all growing in thesame direction.
So now we're making our smallsteps.
We have our goal.
We want to do this.
We want to start a nonprofit,we want to start this job.
We want to do this ministry,whatever it is.
We've now got God on board.
God's given you a calling.
You're now stepping out.
(08:10):
You're reaching out tocommunity to get help.
You're making small decisions,like Neil talked about in the
last episode, making smallchanges.
That doesn't feel like it's somuch, Neil, that you can't do it
.
If you want to go back overthat just for a little bit, and
then let's dive into how we gofrom there to the next step.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So you don't feel overburdened, right?
Whenever God gives us our call,whatever that call may be, the
first thing that happens is westart throwing up red flags of
why I can't do it.
I've never done that before,I'm not smart enough, I don't
have the money, I don't have thecapabilities, I don't know how
to run a nonprofit, I don't knowhow to run a business.
(08:42):
I've never dealt with kidsbefore, so I can't open up that
youth club.
I've never done any of thisbefore.
That's your subconsciousthrowing up those flags, and
then we break it down into themicro actions.
One client where um, I justwrote an article about this
(09:03):
where she wanted to step backfrom her business and in doing
so, her subconscious threw upall these red flags and I said,
okay, well, what are the redflags?
So let's, let's go here, thengo list out all those red flags,
list them out, all the excuseswhy you can't do something.
(09:25):
I'm not smart enough.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, for me it was yes, I'm not, I don't know how
to do this.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I've never done this.
I don't have the tools.
I'll do it next week.
Which one of those excuses doyou want to work on?
So, for this individual clientthat I was working on, she said
well, one of the things I haveto do is communication with the
clients, and if I take a stepback from the business and I let
the manager run the more of theday to day, then I'm not going
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to be able to communicate withthe customers, the clients, and
if I don't communicate with them, there's a certain way I
communicate, like if I don'tcommunicate with them, then
they're going to leave becausethey're used to me.
Okay, so that's one level deep.
(10:14):
Let's take it another leveldeep.
How can we, how can we fix thatso that you don't have to
physically be the person incommunication with the customer?
Well, I can train individuals.
I can actually bringindividuals into the
conversations that I have.
Right, I can create that visionof I want to step away from the
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business and I come up with allthe excuses why I can't.
Those are surface level excuses.
I pick one of them and then Isolve for that one.
So it's communication.
How many different ways can youcommunicate with your customers
.
Which one of these ways are wegoing to work on first?
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And we just keep peeling theonion skin back until we get
down to the root cause of it andthen build up from that root
cause.
So I had this client.
She literally did exactly that.
She listed out all the ways shecommunicates with the clients.
She brought in her manager onthose communications so that the
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manager can see in real timehow the communications were
going.
And then they did an after thecall.
They would sit together and goover.
Did you see, when I said thisto the client, they did this.
Did you see, when she felt alittle uneasy, I said this to
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make it more comfortable for her.
I showed compassion here.
But over here I drew the linein the sand.
This is why I did those things.
And you're training up theindividual so that you can take
that step back.
So in wanting to make that movewhatever that move is for you,
wanting to make that move,whatever that move is for you,
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the listener, whatever that moveis make those actions really
small.
So it's not about I don't knowhow to start a nonprofit, it's
about who do I need to speakwith, who has started nonprofits
that I can go talk to.
What are the steps, the actualmicro steps of starting a
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nonprofit?
Now there could be 20 microsteps to start a nonprofit,
right?
I've never started a nonprofit,I don't know, but I'm going to
attack one of those.
Maybe I just pick theregulations of a nonprofit right
, because this's governmentregulations to be classified as
a nonprofit.
So maybe now, who do I have totalk to for that Nonprofit?
(12:52):
It's money, that's an accountant.
Let me go talk to an accountant.
Let me go talk to an attorneyand just break them down into
micro steps, because going tohave a conversation with an
accountant is not that big of adeal.
And if it is a big deal ifyou're throwing up red flags
because going to have aconversation with an accountant
is not that big of a deal, andif it is a big deal if you're
throwing up red flags becauseI'm not a money person, I don't
understand that language.
Bring somebody with you thatdoes that's right.
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Micro it down and build up yourvocabulary before you go and
see them.
Just keep microing the actiondown, just keep chipping away at
it until you get to a pointwhere the red flags aren't
appearing.
Start there and then work yourway up.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And it's not about perfection, it's about
progression.
It's about progressing everyday.
It's not about perfection.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
If you wait for perfection, you'll never start.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That's it.
That's why, if you keep saying,hey, I'll do it tomorrow, I'll
get started tomorrow, next yearI'll do this, I'll do it, then
I'm telling you you're not goingto do it monday never.
Comes yes, you just have tostart a micro step and get going
and get.
When you have something likethis, an idea, a goal, a vision,
I will say this, neil becareful who you tell that to at
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the beginning.
Make sure somebody, make suresomebody you trust, who you
believe, somebody who will, whowill believe in you and not
somebody who'd be like dude,what are you talking about?
You can't do that, like youcan't start a nonprofit for
mental health dude, you were acrap show.
That's not the person, causethat'll squash your dream and
they'll walk away from it.
You has to be somebody whosupports you, who believes in
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you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
tell them, so I'm, I'm actually in.
So what you said is 100accurate.
But let me just throw that outthere.
I'm from the other camp, I'mfrom.
I'm gonna tell everybody.
And when that individual comesand says you, you're out of your
mind.
(14:47):
You think a cop can start anonprofit.
The hell are you talking about?
Watch me, that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yep and you're not doing it for them.
Anyway, you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Gasoline, yep but that, that that's my mindset,
like my mindset's like yeah,okay, game on now yeah, you lit
a fire all right, like, okay, ina year you're gonna be coming
to me asking me uh, I just gotlaid off.
Do you have any positions atyour nonprofit that I can come
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to?
And I'm going to graciously putmy arm around them and invite
them in, because that's how itis.
But in the beginning you justexpect it, expect that people
aren't going to believe.
And it's not about you, it'sabout them.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
There you go, there it is they.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
They don't want you to prove to them that it could
be done, because in you provingto them that it could be done,
they feel as though, well, Icould have did it and I didn't.
So I'm a failure, I'm a loser.
It's agree, it's a.
You're holding up the mirror tothem and they don't like that.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yep, that dude, that's what you just said is
wisdom.
People take that in, soak it in, chew it up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's why it's not about you.
I'm telling everybody, and forthose people that are like you
can't do that, all right, likeyeah, right, like I don't even
hear it, like, so I'm gonna getto something in a second that
that tells you why I don't hearit that's great like I don't, I
don't even I, I automaticallyrepel it.
(16:32):
Now, I wasn't always like that.
I.
I created this, this strategy,this process we're going to talk
about in a second, and in doingthat, in me realizing what was
going on, I was able to nowrepel it so that I don't even
allow it in.
Like Jim Rohn talks aboutguarding the gates of your mind,
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I don't even let it in.
I'm like, yeah, you're an idiot, like whatever.
Like go over there and play inthe sandbox or something.
I'm going over here, I'm goingto go do my thing.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's biblical.
Jesus said the same thing Shakethe dust off your feet and go
on.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
The next one.
If you want to come along withme, have at it, Come on, let's
go.
But if you don't, so be it.
But you want to know somethingagain why?
I tell everybody is it just, itjust wasn't.
They weren't ready for it toland on them, they weren't ready
for the opportunity of memoving forward, proposed right.
(17:33):
It doesn't mean they're notgoing to be ready six months
from now and they're going tosay oh, you know what Dan said,
he was starting a nonprofit.
I, I, I need to be involved inthat.
And now they're going to have adirection to move in and
they're going to use you as aresource.
And that's why I believe intelling everybody.
But you are right, People aregoing to come out and they're
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going to be negative.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
And you have to understand that you have to
repel them.
Yeah, seeing, for me, I didn'tfeel comfortable with that,
knowing that some people would,and I know this at this point in
my life when god put thiscalling on my life I'm still a
mess man.
I'm coming out of years ofaddiction, crap show, so the
thought of me doing, you know,starting an organization like
1042 project was was animpossible thing.
That's why I was very carefulwith who I told at first,
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because I needed somebody to atleast Believe in you.
Maybe I needed validation inwhat God told me is true, right,
yes, yeah.
And then when I got that fromthe people who I knew would
support me, then it was easy toshare with everybody.
But I wasn't in a place at thatpoint where I would be willing
to share it with just anybody,cause it was so we all need
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different, different people inour lives.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Right, we all need a coach, we all need that friend
that's just going to give it toa straight, like no bullshit.
Yes, we all need thecheerleader that's going to
motivate us and be like you cando it, like let's go.
You need that, like we all needlittle pieces of all those
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individuals.
The way I deal with negativepeople also is deal with
negative people also is.
Uh, I look at it as I askmyself this question when I die,
is that person going to standat my graveside in a
thunderstorm and cry for me?
How many people in your lifewill stand at your gravesite in
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a thunderstorm and cry for you?
there's not many no so if you'renot one of those people, you
have nothing to say to me yeahbut if you are one of those
people now, I'll take some, some, I'll heed, I'll yield to what
you say and I'll process it andthen I'll make my decision from
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there.
Right, because my mother is oneof those people that will cry
at my gravesite for me, right,my mother didn't want me to be a
cop, nor a fireman so if Iwould have heeded that.
I wouldn't be here now, right.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So there's some give and take with it, but what I was
talking about, what Ireferenced earlier, was I read a
study and that study said Iread a stat, and that stat said
we have about 60,000 thoughts aday.
80% of those thoughts arenegative, 95% are repetitive.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Say that again.
Say it for the people in theback 60,000 thoughts per day.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
80% of those thoughts are negative, 95% are
repetitive 85% are negative.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
95% are repetitive.
Repetitive that's wild.
That's a wild stat yes.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Now, when I read that , I was like it was like a gut
punch to me, like wonder why I'mon this hamster wheel going
around and around and around ina circle, because 95 of my
thoughts are repetitive andpredominantly those are negative
.
So I'm living in this likenegative loop.
So how do we change that?
How do we become defaultpositive as opposed to default
(21:30):
negative?
Right, if I said to you, um, ifI made a comment to you and
that was a negative comment or aperception, so if I said to you
something like 50% of our dayis spent in autopilot, right,
are you that 50% of our day isspent in autopilot?
(21:54):
Is that good or is that bad?
Do you say like, oh my God, 50%of our day is spent in
autopilot, that's horrible.
Or, woohoo, I don't.
Oh my God, 50% of my day isspent in autopilot, that's
horrible.
Or woohoo, I don't have tothink for 50% of the day.
Like that means I can thinkabout other things, right, yeah,
so where does your initialreaction go?
That's your default thoughtprocess, right?
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That's what your mindset is.
So do you lean more positive ormore negative?
Where is it if I told you,we're going to drop right now
and do 20 push-ups, and we dropand do 20 push-ups, and then I'm
like, all right, we're going todrop and do 25 push-ups.
So you're like, well, that'sonly five more.
We already did 20, so I have todo five more.
Or are you like oh my god, Igotta do 25, so that's 45 total.
I can't do 40, 40.
(22:37):
Like, where, like where's yourmind going?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It depends on the day , neil depends on the day, right
?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Is it before or after dinner, exactly so.
So what I'm getting at is, ifwe have 80% of our thoughts that
are negative and 95 arerepetitive, how can we change
that?
If we can change the amount ofnegative thoughts we have, then
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those thoughts that arerepetitive, more of them are
positive, and it puts us in abetter frame, a better frame of
mind.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So how do we get there?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
We use air awareness, interrupt and repeat, uh,
replace.
So I'm going to become aware ofthe thought.
How do I become aware of mythoughts?
Because remember now I said 60000 thoughts a day.
That's kind of like the averagenumber, 60 000 thoughts a day.
We're only consciously comingup with a couple of hundred.
Maybe that we, like, areconscious of, like.
(23:41):
When I first was asked thatquestion, I'm like, yeah, we
have, probably.
I have maybe a couple ofhundred thoughts a day, like
60,000.
A lot of that's in thebackground, just automatically
playing on the reel.
So we have to become aware ofwhen we have those thoughts,
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when we become, how do to becomeaware of when we have those
thoughts?
How do we become aware?
We slow shit down, we removeourselves from that.
50% autopilot.
We really do spend 50% of ourwaking day in autopilot.
And if you don't believe me,the last time you drove on the
highway you drove past threeexits and you don't remember the
three exits.
Or you drove home from work andyou pass the gas station but
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you don't remember passing thegas station.
Or my favorite is when youfight with the light switch in
the bathroom, when you go to usethe restroom in a blackout.
I know I'm in a blackout, butI'm still fighting with the
light switch, like why is thelight coming on?
It's because I'm in a blackout,but I'm still fighting with the
light switch, like why isn'tthe light coming on?
It's because I'm in a blackout.
Oh man, and you do that all thetime.
Like every time I walk into therestroom during a blackout, I
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turn the same light, switch onand I'm mad at the light for not
coming on, and then I rememberI'm in a blackout.
So that's autopilot.
We live our days in autopilotand our mind creates autopilot
those automatic behaviors thatwe take over and over and over
again, because our mind is hitwith something like a million
bits per second and we can onlyprocess 120 bits per second.
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So where are all those otherbits going?
The more things that we canautomatically do habits, read
habits into that, the morethings we have habits around,
the more stuff we can process,because we don't have to worry
about those things that we'vealready given away to
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automaticity.
So how do we actuallyphysically become aware?
Because these thoughts areflowing through our head First
we slow things down.
How do we slow things down?
I want everybody to start doingthis right now.
You can do this when you drive.
The only time you can't do thisis when you're sleeping.
Okay, it's a technique that wasdeveloped in Japan in their rail
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system.
In their rail system, they werehaving a very high rate of
accidents.
They instituted what they callShisha Kenko and they saw an 85%
reduction in incidences almostimmediately.
85%, and what Shishakinkotranslated means is point and
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call.
So they would literally havetheir workers in their rail
system.
Their engineers would greensignal go, red signal stop.
We're going 50 kilometers,that's the speed limit.
Their conductors would look ontheir platforms and be like the
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left is clear, the right isclear, the platform is clear,
the train may go.
85% reduction because they wereslowing things down.
They were actually takingthemselves out of automaticity.
They weren't living inautopilot anymore, so instead of
just pulling into the stationand then leaving the station,
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they were taking that second tomake sure everything was clear.
And they would catch that babystroller in the subway car doors
.
They would catch that kid thatran onto the train and the
mother that ended up stayingback on the platform.
They would catch that a redsignal was coming up because
they were slowing things down.
How do we slow things down?
(27:19):
We walk around and we say likeright now I'm going to do it
Glass of water I point at myglass of water.
Water microphone, light, man,wall sign, phone, laptop.
I'm starting to pay attentionto those things that commonly I
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wouldn't pay attention to.
So I'm starting to live more inthe present moment instead of
just letting things speed by melike I'm on the highway.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But you had to be intentional about it.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I have to be intentional about it.
I have to call things out, Ihave to slow things down.
I have to live in the momentinstead of always trying to race
to the next thing.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
But, neil, that's what we did in our line of work.
Buddy, yes, when you were a cop, that's what you did.
When you were a firefighter,that's what you did.
Now you want us to quit doingthat.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So I will counter that and call bullshit on that.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Throw it what you got .
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yes, we've raced, but in racing we were picking up
details all over the place.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Unpack that.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You drove 90 miles an hour down a city street, but
you cleared that intersectionbefore you went through it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, with precision.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
And you cleared it quickly, right, think, think,
think, think, yep.
So you were racing around aleft-hand turn really quick.
You were racing around aleft-hand turn really quick.
You weren't just payingattention to that turn, but you
were giving that quick glanceoff to your left to make sure
that a kid wasn't running offthe corner across the street
(28:58):
because he saw a cop car and hewas like, hey, cop, yeah, I'm
going to wave to you.
Right, right, you were, you were, you were picking things out.
You were looking a block aheadof you, defensive EVOC driving.
Right, you were looking a blockahead of you to pick things out
.
That guy may end up coming out,that guy just got into his car.
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He may pull off the curb.
All of that stuff.
You were picking all of thisstuff out.
You just you got so good at ityou didn't realize you were
doing it.
It was just what we did andthat's what we were talking
about in the last episode.
That was a tool we had when wewere on the job and now we we
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could bring that tool to nowbeing off the job, being retired
or separated from service.
That's one of the tools that wehad that we did very well, we
picked up on these thingsimmediately, because that's just
what we did, so becoming aware,slowing down instead of racing
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right, slowing down instead ofracing right, because in that,
in that race, we were very goodat picking things up, but there
was a lot of things that wemissed also, yeah, right,
because we were moving so fastbecause of the emergency, of the
fact, right, there was anofficer calling for assistance,
there was a baby not breathing,there was a manhole of doing a
(30:27):
robbery at gunpoint, like theywere.
so now I'm talking about slowingdown, but still using our
ability to perceive everythingthat's going on, to pick up on
all the little nuances.
Now we're doing itintentionally at a slower rate.
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When we were on the job,because we had to move so
quickly, because lives were onthe line, we had to do that much
quicker and in that quicknessthings did fall through the
cracks.
Now things don't fall throughthe cracks because we're
attacking it intentionally.
So slowing things down likethat and becoming aware of
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things in our environment.
Now, when we have the thought,we become aware of that thought
because we're used to being inthe present moment, we're used
to calling bullshit out.
So now we grabbed that thoughtand we're like is this thought
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serving us?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yep.
And you know, once you get thecourage and you start doing
these micro steps and you startmoving forward, you have to have
intentional direction.
If and I had to learn this withour organization if, if, say
you, you take off on an airplaneand and you get up there and
all of a sudden the pilot says,hey, we've taken off, but we've
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lost all electrical, um, all ofour gadgets, all of our screens.
We have no idea where we'reheaded and what direction we're
headed, but we know that we'll,we'll get there on time.
Um, would you feel comfortable?
I mean, you wouldn't, cause theplane has no idea what
direction it's headed, has noidea where it's intended landing
(32:16):
spot is.
Um, you're up there justrandomly roaming around with no,
with no direction and nointention.
We have to do that with ourlife.
We can't just take our plane upthere and try to figure and not
have a.
A plan of.
This is our next step, this isour, this is our goal.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
We have to have that, that, that plan, so ahead of
time, if you were in californiaand that plane took off and you
lost your instruments and youwere headed to new york, if that
plane was just off, if you hada really good pilot and the
pilot was like I could do this,but the pilot was off just one
degree.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
You ain't going to New York.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
He would land in Baltimore.
Yeah, so just like, bring upyour Google Maps.
California to New York it'scoast to coast.
New York to Baltimore it'sprobably a three.
New York to Baltimore, it'sprobably a three and a half hour
drive.
So three and a half hours isprobably 200-ish miles, but
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you're going to be off andthat's why you need that
direction and you need to alwayscourse correct.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yep, alright, you got eight minutes to bring this all
home.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Eight minutes to always course correct, yep.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
All right, you got eight minutes to bring this all
home.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Eight minutes to bring it home.
Land the plane.
Do you have a big idea?
Land the plane, I'll have youon in future.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I'll have you on in future episodes I'm going to
keep on the plane analogy for asecond.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Because that plane, when the instruments are working
on that plane and you're flyingfrom California to New York,
that plane, when the instrumentsare working on that plane and
you're flying from California toNew York, that plane is off
course something like 90% of thetime, but it still lands at the
exact location that it set out.
So don't be afraid of bumps inthe road, because bumps in the
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road are going to take place.
You just course correct.
And that's where intentionalitycomes in.
I know I'm going over there.
Sometimes it's not going to bea straight line.
There's going to be hills, soyou're going to go up, you're
going to come down, there'sgoing to be hills and valleys
and you're going to have to goleft and right.
Sometimes there's going to be aboulder in your way and you
can't go through the boulder.
Sometimes you got to go aroundthe boulder and planes do it all
(34:25):
the time like Like they flyfrom California to New York.
It's something like 90% of thetime they're off course.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I love that analogy and they just do those course
corrections and that's what wehave to do.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Don't think, because an obstacle got thrown up, you
just throw your hands up now andget.
No, it's an obstacle Like.
It's just like being back onthe job.
Obstacles happen.
We problem solve.
Find a solution around thatobstacle through the obstacle,
over the obstacle, we solve forthe obstacle and then we move on
.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Tiger Woods has a golf coach.
Tiger Woods has a golf coach.
Peyton Manning had aquarterback coach.
We need coaches, Neal Michael.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Jordan had a quarterback coach.
We need coaches.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Neil Michael Jordan had a coach we have to have a
coach, no matter how good we are, we have to have a coach and
know that this is okay yes, thecoach sees the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
The coach sees that bird's eye view.
The coach has experienced otherindividuals and can now relate
what one individual has done tothis individual that he's
presently working with.
Yep, coaches can see the biggerpicture.
(35:44):
Is they see the bigger pictureand they can draw that bigger
picture out of you.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And that's why, guys, if, if you're, if you're, if
you're wanting to get a mindsetcoach, I highly recommend it.
If you need, if you're goinginto business, you need a
business coach.
If you need a whatever it maybe you get back into interview
and get an interview coach.
Like there's coaches out there,there's people now that
individual people that will taketime and train you and help you
(36:12):
get to where you want to be.
You don't have to do this aloneyou don't have to find it.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yes, find a coach that has so.
So the one caveat to find acoach is, if I was going to
start a business, I wouldn'twant Jeff Bezos to be my coach.
Now, that might soundcounterintuitive, but Jeff Bezos
doesn't remember what it's liketo be me in startup phase.
(36:39):
So I'm going to find mybusiness coach as someone that's
three years ahead of me,because that person still knows
what it feels like to be me andthat person has walked through
the steps that I'm going to walkthrough.
(37:00):
Starting a business in 1997,when Amazon was started roughly
right, is a lot different thanstarting a business now, in 2025
.
It's just a different world.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
True.
So if they want some coaching,neil, if they want some coaching
, they want to hear more aboutwhat you have to say.
They got, man.
They want to get this mindsetmoving in the right direction.
How can they get a hold ofCoach Neil with New York, neil,
how can they get a hold of yourbuddy?
And coaching is different thantherapy guys.
It Coach Neil with New YorkNeil, how can they get ahold of
your buddy?
And coaching is different thantherapy guys.
It's like we've talked about itbefore.
Neil's not a counselor or atherapist.
I'm not a counselor or atherapist.
(37:34):
We're not doctors, we'recoaching.
We take what we know, ourexperiences, our training, and
we help people get more out ofthemselves than they can by
themselves.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
He's a coach and with coaching, Neil with coaching.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Neil, you guys, you, you can.
There's no like licensecertificate.
So it's there's no, you cantalk to somebody from out of
state, right?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, so there's no likely right, there's no
licensing Like there is withtherapy and doctors and lawyers.
We, you can only operate incertain, uh boundaries yep.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
So, guys, you can reach out to neil if you want to
get some coaching.
Neil, uh, how'd they get a holdof your buddy?
How?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
so it's.
It's simply my name, neil atneil shipcom spell your last
name s c?
Uh sam charlie henry oscar,eddie paul paul Sam Charlie
Henry Aska, eddie Paul Paul.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You guys reach out to him.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
And, like, the job of the coach is to hold up a
mirror.
The job of the coach is to beyour friend.
The job of the coach is to makeyou a better person, to level
you up, to draw out thegreatness that's inside of you.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And you want to help them with that right now.
That's what you're dedicated to.
That's what you're dedicated inyour life.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's literally what I do now.
Like I helped civilians when Iwas a cop at a fireman, I helped
civilians in their time of need.
Now I help first responders increating that future vision for
where they want their life to goand then how to actually build
(39:14):
the roadmap to get there.
What are the micro steps thatwe have to take?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
So, guys, people, god's been talking to you, Maybe
a friend's been talking to yousaying, hey, you know you should
do this, you should do that.
Or somebody saying, hey, you'rereally good at this, maybe you
should do that.
And you just have a goal onyour mind, a new beginning.
Let's get over the fear.
The growth is right on theother side of that fear.
Let's get a coach.
Let's get somebody to help us,just like we need a football
(39:41):
coach.
Let's get community Reach outto the 1042 Project.
That's what we are.
We're a large peer supportorganization outside your
department.
Join us for our, our peersupport groups.
Um, get a hold of neil, get ahold of all of our other people
that's been on our podcast andget moving forward.
Um, you've heard me say itbefore when a rocket takes off,
(40:01):
three quarters or more of thefuel is burnt during the takeoff
phase.
Yes, once it's up and going, ithardly runs on any fuel,
because the hardest part isgetting started look at the
space shuttle it's got.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
This is getting started.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Let a coach, help you get started, because it's the
hardest part.
You can reach out to a coachand just say hey, I need help.
This is where I'm at.
It doesn't matter where you are.
They will help you.
They're not going to shame youand be like what are you doing?
You't do.
You can't start a business likethat.
You don't even know what theheck you're talking about.
No, no, no, no, that's notwhat's going to happen.
They're going to coach you andhelp you get to where you want
(40:35):
to be.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
So reach out to a coach, reach out to us, and I do
want to pray real Before we gointo prayer.
If I give you a link, you couldput that link in the
description or something.
So I'm going to give you a linkto what I call a freedom call
and it's a 30-minute call withme and literally it's kind of
(41:05):
like the first coaching call.
I'm not there to sell youanything.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
It would be the first coaching call.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm not there to sell you anything.
It would be the first coachingcall, like what my purpose is,
or where I want my life to go,or I need a little bit of
direction.
Use it for that, so I'll shootyou over the link so that you
can have that and I'll add itinto the description and stuff,
guys.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So I'll add it to that and thank you for saying
that.
That's great, so it's kind oflike a free consultation.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, it's exactly what it is.
Okay, love it, love it, it's.
It's well.
It's not a cancel, it's a freecoaching call.
We'll call it a free coachingcall as opposed to consultation,
because consultation is I tellyou what to do.
A coaching call I draw thingsout of you that's right.
It is a little nuanced there.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
No, thank you for clarifying that.
But, guys, if you're at homeand you have this on your heart
and you want to get started, youwant to have this new season,
you want to be part of the 1042project as an ambassador or
mentor, and you're just, you'reworried or you're scared, you
don't know what to do next orhow to do it.
Get over that fear, reach outand I just pray.
I was going to pray real quick,god.
That, the Heavenly Father, forall the listeners that are
(42:12):
listening, god, that are maybefeeling like they lost their
purpose, they lost their hope,they're not sure why they're
even here anymore.
God, I just ask that you speakto them and you remind them who
they are and you remind themthat you are not done with them.
If they still have a heartbeat,they have a mission.
God, we ask that you remind themof that mission.
Give them the courage and thepower, power that they don't
(42:35):
have on their own, god.
Give them the power that theyneed to get started and to get
moving in the right direction,to walking out the calling on
their life, the gifts thatyou've given them, father.
Have them reach out to somebodylike us if they need help,
Reach out to coaches and, mostimportantly, god, that they
reach out to you, because noneof this matters without you,
(42:55):
without your forgiveness, yourlove for us, your fatherly
wisdom.
None of this matters withoutyou.
We do this for you, god.
We just ask that you blessevery listener, you bring
healing to them and let themknow that they are loved and
they are a son of God.
We thank you, father, in Jesus'name and Neil amen, brother,
(43:18):
thank you so so much.
Did you have fun?
Yeah, dude, did you have somefun?
Man, that was good.
I want to have you on moreoften.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, no, I'm here to serve, Like this is my call and
I resisted this call.
I resisted this call.
I did too.
And like you talk about God andlike he had to take the
baseball bat out and just startclubbing me, Like wake up, Like
(43:51):
this is what you should be doingand uh, it's not a coincidence
that you and I are talking rightnow.
Yeah, god's got plans for you.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
God's got plans for you.
God's going to show you andremind you how much he loves you
, how much you are enough theway you are, and uh, and yeah,
this is no accident, my friend.
We met for a reason and I'mexcited to see where.
I'm excited to see where ourfriendship goes.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
All right, my brother .
Speaker 1 (44:17):
All right, buddy, oh good.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
If you need anything, use me as a resource, like you
have my number, like all of thatgood stuff.
I really am here to serve.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I love it.
I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
All right, good talking with you, dan.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
All right, buddy, take care.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Good to see you.
Take care Bye.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Thank you for tuning in and just a reminder, we are a
501c3.
If you guys can support us.
You can go to our website or,if you know an organization or a
company or your church may wantto get involved in supporting
1042 Project's mission ofequipping, restoring,
repurposing our first responders, please reach out to us at
10-42projectorg.
(44:57):
There is a giving page on there.
We need your help.
We need your support.
If you can't give financially,please be willing to share the
word of our podcast, of ourorganization and the work that
God's doing.
Thank you and have a blessedweek.
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