August 1, 2024 • 39 mins
A long time Ago before the internet People thought if you had more information you wouldn't be so gullible In the Morden age that might not be the case Join Shayne and Max as they hilariously discuss this topic
Also Shayne tries to take a different approach as to why someone would pay $18,000 to go to an Alpha man boot camp
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Next is
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Hey, welcome back to the Shade and I Show.
My name is Shane.
My name is Max.
Puzzles come in pieces that you put together.
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Oh, why?
I know it's coming, right?
Yeah.
I know you're going to see us up in random and it's coming.
Every time you do it, it just makes me laugh.
It makes me stop and I have to laugh.
Well, there it is.
And it's just so logical too at the same time.
I usually just make statements of facts.
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Yeah.
But everybody knows puzzles come in pieces, right?
Well, I mean, there are some kind of puzzles that are like a single thing, like a puzzle
box for example.
That's one thing and then you got to open it.
Right.
But I happen to be looking at a jigsaw puzzle.
Yeah.
So you just go off with it, whatever you're looking at.
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And usually, yeah.
Yeah.
So if you were looking at my thumb, I'd say I could slice off that thumb to keep as a
trophy.
Hey, this is the podcast about nothing that makes you think of something.
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All right.
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All right.
All right.
I'm going to try really hard.
There's some business things I wanted to talk about, but I think I do it too much.
All right.
So what's up with you?
I was sick recently.
Did you have the vid?
I don't think so.
I tested and I came back nev-ed.
Nev-ed?
Yeah.
I came back nev-ed, but from what I understand, like one of the new variants doesn't test
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positive on the home tests anyway.
Yeah.
Did you feel like the vid?
It just felt terrible, man.
I think just my new reaction to having a fever is that my whole fucking body is going to
hurt.
Right.
You just become a bitch.
And I don't become a bitch.
I sleep.
I sleep a lot.
Yeah, but do you whine?
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I fucking whine, but I don't know.
Luckily, it's just me in the room.
Like, nobody will see me whine.
Yeah, I get that.
I was too sick to whine.
Right.
I was like, yeah.
Like, you ever been so sick that and so like fucking just worn out and depleted from it
that you're like, I would love to express how bad this feels, but I just don't have the
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energy for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like that.
I had the vid, like way back when.
Yeah, it sucked.
How long did it last?
The worst of it just lasted a day.
It was bad enough that I was considering going to the fucking ER to get checked out just
to make sure I wasn't dying.
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Right.
Because I was like, this feels so fucking like a human body isn't supposed to feel this
way.
I'm worried.
Right.
But then I woke up the next day and I was noticeably less sick.
Yeah, and you were like, hospital, let's not go.
Well, I mean, if I'm getting better, why go?
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it's $400 to walk in the door.
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I know, man.
I know.
Need help.
Okay.
That'll be $455.
That'll be 32 cents.
Yeah.
Why do they always get to throw like the 32 cents in like when you were, when you're a
fucking, when you buy, have a purchase of like, if you have to go to a fucking hospital
or you're paying insurance or like you're paying a bill, right?
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They always have like, oh, it's like $455 and 27 cents.
And like, if you don't pay that 27 cents, they fucking hand you for it.
Yeah.
They're like, where's my mother fucking 27 cents?
Yeah.
You're like, bro, it's 27 cents.
Like if you go to the emergency room, right?
And it's like $400 and $32, right?
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Uh-huh.
$432 and 29 cents.
Yep.
You don't pay that 29 cents.
They send you to collections for that 29 fucking cents.
If you, especially if it's for a small thing, if you talk to them and tell them like, I
just can't like do this right now, they will fucking just write it off and you'll be fine.
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They won't hand you for it.
It's just strange.
Like, why do you gotta throw in the cents?
Why do you have to throw in the cents?
Yeah.
Why can't you just use a nice round number?
Like, yeah, okay.
Like my insurance is like, my insurance a month, I pay like $48, right?
Yeah.
And it's just $48.
Yeah.
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It's not like $48 and 29 cents.
Right.
Or it is my policy.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, that's the simple part.
But you know, when they're collecting their copays and all that, you know, they collect
a million of them.
29 cents times a million is a lot of cents.
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That's 29 million cents.
I mean, some guy somewhere sat in the room.
Yeah.
And was like, you know how it could really fuck with people?
29 cents.
29 cents.
Or if you really want to blow their mind, fucking just use like a, like a, like actually
I think 29 is a prime number.
So never mind.
Just use a prime number like 29.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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So you get surgery and it's like $15,000 and 32 cents.
Yeah.
And you pay off the whole $15,000 and they're like, well, wait a minute here.
Where's my fucking 32 cents?
Where's our 32 cents?
Yeah.
This thing has been going on for a year and a half.
We've had to send you a collection.
That 32 cents now is like 500 bucks.
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Yeah.
And then all of a sudden you got this collection agency calling you and the collection agency
is like, can I speak with Mr. Mc...
They never...
And the collection agency is never fucking pronounced your name right.
Well, they don't give a shit.
Yeah.
Can I speak with Mr. Maxwell McDonough...
McDonough Hold?
Yeah.
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Like nobody mispronounces my name.
No, I'm just trying.
Okay.
I'm trying, man.
Yeah.
They fucking mispronounce my name all the time.
Well, your name spelled insanely.
I get called Shwayne.
Yeah.
No, I believe it.
Shwayne.
I believe it.
Like Wayne, right?
Yeah.
Like Wayne, but it's Shwayne.
Whoever it was, probably your parents who decided what your name was going to be, they
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decided to spell it.
Just...
There's just a Y actually.
It's S-H-A-Y-N-E.
It's not weird.
You don't need the Y and the E.
Well, that's...
It is what it is.
Yeah.
I'm a unique individual.
You are.
What else is going on?
Oh, shit, man.
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I was...
You know what I was thinking about?
Yeah.
I'm just going to throw this out there because I don't really have a topic.
Fucking do it.
We never have a topic.
That's not true.
Sometimes we do, but we rarely end up talking about it.
Yeah, but today I came in here blank.
All right.
Today I came in here blank, but I was thinking about something.
I remember a time where people actually thought that if...
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And hopefully, well, this might offend some people.
If you're one of these individuals, this might offend you, but there was a time in life where
people thought if stupid people had more information, they wouldn't be so much of a
stupid.
Yeah.
That didn't turn out very well, did it?
No, it didn't.
Well, here's the thing.
People got more information and became stupider.
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I think here's what happened.
Here's what happened.
People assume...
The people who thought everybody should have more information assumed as a base assumption
that that information should be correct and truthful and distributed in good faith.
Yeah, but that didn't happen.
That didn't happen.
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Right?
So if everybody was given the information that bluebirds are blue...
Right.
Right?
Bear with me here.
I'm scared with you.
Yeah, everybody's given the information that bluebirds are blue.
Right.
Now, some people are going to ask why are bluebirds blue?
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We got to get to the bottom of this.
So the fact...
And some bluebirds.
The fact of the matter is bluebirds, the way that their f*****g feathers are designed
on a microscopic level just refracts blue light.
Yeah.
Right.
As opposed to pigment, which absorbs all light, but the blue light.
So now some people have been out there and they know full well that it's the microscopic
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refraction of whatever.
Right.
Okay.
And I'm being purposely...
I'm getting into a really weird, obscure topic.
Right.
Okay.
Now, somebody out there on accident said, well, duh, they have blue pigment in their
feathers.
Right.
That's not what it is.
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But they said duh and a lot of people believed them.
Right.
And then somebody said, you know what?
Somebody in the blue pigment industry.
Is there a blue pigment industry?
Whatever.
Big pigment.
All right.
So, big pigment was like, guys, we got to support this.
Yeah.
Right?
We have to stop letting people get going after our bluebirds.
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Yeah.
We have to stop letting people think that right now, as long as people think it's pigment,
it's free advertising for us.
When they discover the truth, it stops being free advertising for us.
Okay.
So, they're out there spreading that lie for their own sinister ends.
For years.
Yeah.
And now, because people have decided that what really matters is why bluebirds are blue.
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Right.
There's a whole culture war of pigment people versus refraction people.
Now, neither of these people has bothered to look in a microscope to actually get the
proof for themselves.
Right.
Right.
Now, it might be because of refraction and the refraction people who know this to be
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true are honestly just taking the word of light scientists or probably.
So the people over here.
And then the pigment people are just taking the word of the guy that said duh.
Are just taking the word of the guy that said duh.
Right?
He was like, not it.
He was not credited for anything.
Yes.
And both sides are convinced that the other is probably evil and quite possibly raping
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children to death.
Yeah.
Because of this.
And that's the way the more information thing worked out.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, and the other thing I was the other reason I was thinking about this, right, is
because I've been watching our buddies, the alpha dudes.
Oh, all right.
They've been they've been at it again.
Yeah.
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They have a three day camp.
A three day camp.
Yeah.
Alpha camp.
75, 75 hours, three days, 18,000 bucks.
They ship you down.
You go down there.
Yeah.
And a lot of people are making a big deal about this.
And there's a reason why I'm talking about this.
A lot of people are and I had a different avenue that I was going to take with this,
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but I've been thinking about it.
A lot of people have been just like, dude, you got to be an idiot to pay 18,000 bucks.
18,000 dollars.
Yeah.
To have our army veterans.
Tell you.
Be literally you for like three days.
Right.
And I was watching some other.
I then I did some more research around it.
Uh huh.
And I was looking at the type of dudes that go to this thing, right?
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Yeah.
And they are the type of dudes that need somebody.
To just yell on their face.
To just yell at their face and tell them to fucking stop lying.
Okay.
Right.
So they're actually getting the medicine they need.
Yeah.
They're just being duped into it.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think they're being duped into it.
They know what they're signing up for.
If they're paying the 18 grand, right?
They have the money to pay it.
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Yeah.
Right.
They're the ones that are being like, okay, maybe I need this in my life.
Or somebody in their life is like, hey, you're a fucking idiot and you need to go to this
thing.
Okay.
Right.
Yeah.
Somebody's somewhere is like, so my example is this, right?
This guy, he has four, five pound weights in his hand and the guy's yelling at him.
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Yeah.
He's like, how many weights do you, what are the weights in your hand?
Uh huh.
Right.
And the guy's like 20 pounds.
And he's like, no, what are the weights in your, what are the, what are the increments
of the weight in your hand?
He's like 10 pounds.
And he's like, why are you fucking lying?
So this guy with the weights in his hand is fucking lying out of the gate.
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They're five pounds, right?
He has two five pound weights in one hand, two five pound weights in another hand.
He could have misunderstood the question.
No.
The guy said, what are the increments, how many he could have, but the guy looked like
an idiot.
He looked like he's, he's one of those guys that tries to bullshit his way through.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like he looks like a fucking weasel.
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Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I think the people that sign up for these things are dudes that are weasels that don't
want to be weasels anymore.
Or somebody, like I said in their life is like, you're acting like a fucktard.
I didn't say, I didn't say the R word.
I said fucktard.
Yes.
You're acting like a fucktard.
You need to go get some kind of fucking help.
I'm trying to take a different approach to this thing because I think these guys get
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hammered on.
Yeah.
And they get railed on by people.
Like I'm more inclined to figure out why these guys want to pay 18 grand to go yell
them.
I think it's because I think it's, I really think it's because they're fucktards and
they need somebody like, they've never had like a male role model in their life or anything
and they try to get out of everything.
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They try to weasel out of everything and they like, you know, they don't do the hard, they
don't do hard work.
You know what I mean?
Like they don't, they've never had to do hard work in their life.
Right.
And so the solution instead of grinding down and working on themselves.
They don't know how to.
No, no, no, I get that.
But the solution instead of learning how to do this and get this done is to pay 18 grand
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to get it all done in three days so they'll be fixed.
Dude, if you have the money and you want a quick fix, why the fuck not?
Because there's no quick fixes to character difficulties.
We know that.
We know.
We know.
These guys paid this money, don't know that.
Yeah.
I'm just saying these fucking alpha dog guys or whatever the fuck they are are preying
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on the week to give them exactly what they've always wanted, which is a quick fix for the
least possible effort.
They're just emptying out their bank accounts to do it.
See, I don't think, I don't know, man, I'm trying to have a different.
Because I hammer on the ones that I really go off on are the fake alpha guys that are
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on the internet.
But I think I was watching a couple of things and these guys actually, the guys that run
this thing, they actually mean well.
You know what I mean?
They're like, at least I think, right?
They mean well.
And I had to watch a few different things, right?
I had to do some research and I had to fucking watch a few different things.
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Right?
And I watched the people that flag, they talk shit about the program that never, that wouldn't
pay the 18 grand to do it.
And then I watched some things about guys that did pay for it, right?
They did pay the 18 grand.
And one guy actually did it and he quit two days into it.
And he said it was too hard and he didn't want to do it.
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He didn't want to change.
Right?
He realized two days into it, he didn't want to change and he fucking left in the middle
of the night.
Okay.
Right?
Yeah.
But I don't know, man.
It's just weird to me that people can't, especially men, especially men, like we can't, they can't
just be like, oh yeah, I don't want to be a weasel anymore.
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And let me try to fucking figure out a way to change and work on that shit on your own.
Like, you know, I bet it should, I bet it should head.
Yeah, me too.
I made mistakes in my life, but I've learned from that shit and I've kind of moved on to
where I don't make those mistakes anymore.
Yeah.
You put in the hard work and soul searching required to change your character shortcomings.
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Right.
But I mean, it's, now I'm going to go back to this.
It's going to sound like I'm contradicting myself.
18 grand isn't going to fix that.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're fuck, and you go into this week and a fuck, you may come out a couple
days not being a fuck, but you're going to still wind up a week later being a fuck.
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If you don't take the principles or whatever they're trying to teach you and put it into
action in your life.
So you just wasted 18 grand.
Yeah.
Right.
I think that's where a lot of the internet stuff is coming from is people are talking
about why do it.
Yeah.
Because I, all right, I will, I will, okay, I'll give these guys the benefit of the doubt.
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That's what I'm trying to do.
All right.
Fine.
But still what they're doing is even giving them the benefit of the doubt, what they're
doing is offering weasels the weasel way out.
Right.
I agree with you.
No, I agree with you.
Yeah.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
Even if they don't know that's what they're doing.
Right.
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Yeah.
Right.
No, I agree with you.
But I'm just trying to have a different approach because they think a lot of people
slag on this and trust me, I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't do it.
If they said, hey, why don't you, if you want to, if they actually came to me and said,
if they listen to this podcast and like, hey, you seem pretty open minded about what we
do here, why don't you, we'll, we'll fly you down here.
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We'll let you do this whole program for free and you can have your own.
I'd fucking do it.
Oh, yeah.
If they're going to give us free shit, I will erase this episode right now.
No, I'm not going to erase the episode.
Well, if they're going to pay us, I will.
And I will go all in on fucking supporting this shit if they'll pay us.
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But the ones, the other ones that get me are these guys online that try to tell you how
to be a man.
It's just, it just boggles me.
Do people really follow, like listen to these dudes?
Like, it's weird.
Well, maybe it's a generational thing.
Like maybe because, you know what, like, like my generation, like we never, it was never
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discussed, you know what I mean?
This is like what you do, right?
Like this is what do you do to be like you had examples and you're on or you looked at
other people and there's like, oh, that's what you do.
Right?
You try not to treat people like shit, you know, or whatever.
But I don't know, man, I was watching, I went down this rabbit hole of alpha stuff and it
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just boggles my mind that there's dudes that are out there like, oh, that's what I need.
That's what I need in my life.
Right?
And got me thinking, I should come up with my own fucking program.
We already have.
Yeah, but I mean, where I get down there and then here's that, you know, I was looking
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to improve that seven and one half steps to a brighter, better you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that half step, you know what that half step is paying us 18 grand.
Well, yeah, but the other half of that is so it'd be eight steps to a brighter.
I added the other half.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The other step is I come into your house and I just fucking yell at you.
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Yeah.
Why you do stupid shit?
All right.
Yeah.
Why are you talking to your wife that way?
Yeah.
We could even do it even better than that.
Yeah.
Or what we'll do, here's what we'll do.
We will offer to sell them a home surveillance system and we'll get the feed to the home
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surveillance system and there will be speakers and shit.
And so we.
When they do something stupid, we can just blast them.
Just fucking blast them.
Just be like, hey, fuck.
Tart.
Try listening to your wife when she talks to you in 2 a.m.
Hey, fuck.
Tart, get up.
Yeah.
Time for your nine mile run.
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Yeah.
It's part of being a alpha man.
Go fucking run for nine miles.
Fucking run for nine miles.
We could fucking prerecord a bunch of stuff and just set it on timer.
Some of it will just go off at random.
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
That's the extra help.
That's the extra help.
The extra help is.
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Yeah.
So look, they'll have to buy the cameras from us and they'll have to buy the speakers from
us.
Right.
And of course, they'll have to pay like a monthly fee for the surveillance service
from us.
And our secret videos.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's all on top of the 18 grand.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like if you just go down there to get yelled at for three days or whatever, dude, you should
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at least offer some shit after like after words, right?
Absolutely.
Like the installing cameras is brilliant.
Yeah.
Just imagine you're like the dude's just sitting there eating.
Why the fuck are you eating in and out, you tard?
Yeah.
I see you there with your tube of cookie dough sitting in your undies sobbing.
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You know your kid is a fuck and you need to help your kid.
Yeah.
Go be a dad.
That's right.
You know, your kid just jacked off into the manna of the jar.
But you just used stuff.
I wanted to let you eat it before I told you.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was it.
I don't know.
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I go I occasionally go on these deep dives.
It just boggles my mind that these guys exist in this in this and that people actually
like listen to what these guys have to say.
Right.
Like the guy and the guy.
I understand his is more shock value, right?
This is more like people don't agree with them.
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It's more shock value.
Like that just was like let me get views kind of thing.
You know what I mean?
But there's actual serious guys that really believe their own their own height.
Yeah.
Or or they're so good at talking about it that they make you think they really believe their
own height.
Right.
Who is that guy?
The guy that had the Lamborghini in his garage, but it wasn't about the Lamborghini.
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He's about the books on a shelf.
Remember that guy?
No.
He was like big on YouTube for a while.
You'd always have those commercials like when YouTube ads first started.
Mm hmm.
Like he was like one of the first guys to figure out YouTube ads and he had an ad on YouTube
where he's like my name is Ty Lopez.
That's who it is.
No idea.
Ty Lopez.
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My name is Ty Lopez and yeah, I just got this Lamborghini and the Lamborghini's cool,
but you want to know what's cooler is the bookshelf in my garage.
Lamborghini's were never his, but he would try to sell you this.
Remember it's where I came up with a seven and one half steps.
You try to say you 99 steps.
Okay.
For like an obscene amount of money.
Yeah, I don't remember this guy.
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You should Google good old Ty Lopez.
We just don't care enough.
You should.
I can't Google every snake oil salesman out there.
He was good.
Good for him for being a good snake oil salesman.
I'll Google Tony Robbins and Scientology and all of it.
Tony Robbins is another guy.
Yeah.
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Tony Robbins.
Another snake oil salesman.
Tony Robbins got famous for being a snake oil salesman.
Well he got famous for being a good snake oil salesman that people actually bought the
snake oil.
Yeah.
And then he would like go on fucking like be interviewed.
What was his big thing though?
Was he teaching, he wasn't teaching financial freedom though, was he?
No, no.
He was like like self actualization maybe some shit like that.
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But basically he was like a real good talker and people would pay boo boo bucks to go watch
him talk.
People still do.
People still do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's still a big deal.
I don't know.
Anyway, Tony Robbins.
I mean good for him.
He got he made millions of dollars for being a real good talker.
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Yeah.
In that smile always just remember him smiling.
Little smiling.
We see the vision board guy with me the guy that was like oh you gotta have a vision board.
I don't.
You gotta have a vision board to fucking keep your dreams in sight.
I don't know.
I never actually looked into it.
I tried a vision board once.
I never did.
It never worked.
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I mean every now and then I'll put up a board to like try to organize myself.
Right.
It not not as a vision board but like hey I have an appointment on the 23rd.
Right.
That's why most people put up boards.
Yeah.
I would avoid that on the 23rd and then I gotta go fucking get my will changed on the
same day.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Here's the list of stuff I want to get done this week.
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And then I gotta make sure the dogs get bathed.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So that was my vision board.
I think it's more of a day planner.
Yeah.
It is.
Yeah.
No but there I want to say it was Tony Robbins.
I could be wrong but somebody made a bunch of fucking money.
She's telling people to have a vision board.
Yeah.
I know a lot of people that have made a lot of money just for basically saying shit that
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makes that gives people hope.
All this shit.
All this shit we're talking about.
Right.
Is you're giving hopeless people some hope and hopeless people and I know I've been
a hopeless person.
Me too.
And they will they will do or give anything for just a little bit of hope.
Yeah.
You're like man that sounds really good.
Yeah.
I'll give you 18.
I can see why.
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Like if you're a fucking back to the alpha guys.
I give you a fucking fuck and you're a hopeless fuck.
Yeah.
And you know you're a hopeless fuck.
Yeah.
And you see some dude that just got back from the alpha man weekend or whatever it's called.
Yeah.
And he's like you changed my life.
Yeah.
You should sign up for it.
Yeah.
And he calls you like bro or chief afterwards.
Yeah.
Because that's kind of the slang I imagine those guys use after they're done.
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Yeah.
Or brother.
Brother.
There it is.
Change my life brother.
Yes.
Every other words brother.
Yeah.
Or bro.
Oh the bros.
Bro you gotta go to this thing.
Self actualization.
Fucking money tree.
Fucking yelling at you.
Fucking board.
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It's all that wrapped into what and then all of a sudden you're there.
You got this hammer up in the air.
They're spraying water on you and all the fucking out of nowhere all of a sudden Tony
Robbins shows up with his big smile and his suit in the middle of a fucking night to tell
you how to self actualize yourself.
Yep.
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And it would be better.
And then that guy from trailer park boys comes in and only wants to do is tell you
how to self smart yourself.
Self smart yourself.
Yep.
It's worth it bro.
Yeah.
Pay the 18 grand brother.
Yeah thanks Ricky.
Yeah.
They should have Ricky.
You're the fucking self actualization.
Hell yeah.
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Hey he's one of the most self actualized guys on television.
He really is.
Yeah.
Yeah man.
Tony Robbins.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
I didn't just burp into the mic.
I tried not to.
Well you know I applaud your effort.
There was effort there.
There was effort.
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There was effort.
Yeah.
I'm trying to be nice to you guys.
It's not about whether you succeed or fail.
It's about whether you try.
No.
And you know what's.
And I think that that's enough of a hopeful thing that the audience can pay me $18,000
for having heard it.
Dude I'm telling you if we ever got seven and one half steps to a brandy brandy you
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written we could be making some boo-boo bucks.
Oh absolutely.
Shane if I gave up my moral fiber and was willing to just fucking create and sell snake
oil for the masses.
My god.
My god.
It would be it's like man it's just the internet is it's like back to the beginning.
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It's like you know it was okay when there was no internet and you were stupid.
It was kind of alright.
Right.
You could kind of be in your little stupid world.
Yeah.
Remember.
And not have all the information.
Yeah.
But if you're a stupid person with a bunch of information that's wrong.
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You don't know what's wrong.
You don't know what's wrong.
You gotta pick a side of the bluebird fight.
You do you have to pick a side of the bluebird fight.
Are you the are you the the the pig the pigments.
Yeah.
Or the refractors.
Yeah.
You gotta pick a side because that's just gonna prove what kind of person you are.
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Yeah.
You know that proves where you got your internet from.
It proves not only where you got your internet from but that you're one of those people who
doesn't actually truly care about whether or not you know the facts.
Or by the snake oil.
Right.
Some people care more about truth than facts.
Right.
These are those people.
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Right.
So what side would those people be on if you were a truth and fact person.
You could be on either side.
So it really doesn't matter.
Right.
If even if everything you believe is a fact you could still believe or you could still
be one of those people for whom truth is more important than facts.
It just so happens that the truth you believe has a lot of facts to do with it for any given
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whatever.
That said, you wouldn't know.
You wouldn't know whether you're on the fact side or the not fact side of any given issue
because you don't actually care.
Because the truth is what you care about.
And the truth is what you believe.
And the truth is what you believe.
Right.
Truth is a matter of belief.
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So if you believe that you're a weasel and need to spend 18 grand on an alpha male camp.
Go and do it.
Yeah.
Then such is true.
Then that's your truth, babe.
Yeah.
If that's your truth, that's your truth.
Go and do it.
Yeah.
That said, maybe just try like looking in the mirror for 20 minutes.
I mean, literally.
It's hard for some people to be.
Yeah.
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No, I know.
I remember I couldn't look in the mirror.
I know.
Hey, I fucking.
They're like years.
They're like, oh, fuck.
Dude, I remember one morning getting up and fucking like, you know, getting up and walking
in the bathroom and looking in the mirror and literally like a fucking like a human being
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that I've never seen before was there looking back at me.
Yeah.
And I was startled because I didn't know who the fuck this person was.
And then I.
And then I made the conclusion that it's a mirror.
It must be me.
I stopped looking in mirrors for a while.
Yeah.
I think people do.
It's uncomfortable, man.
Yeah.
I'm going to end on this.
Nothing deep.
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I'm going to tell a story about my nap today.
Oh, yeah.
Because I like naps.
Naps are nice.
Yes.
But it was such a.
It was like only a 20 minute nap.
All right.
But it was like such a deep nap that I woke up and I thought I had to go to work.
Damn.
Like I woke up and I was like, oh, shit.
I looked at time.
I'm like, oh, shit.
I'm late.
I'm like energy and yeah, and mental clarity.
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Yeah.
I love the perfect power now that recharges you.
And I don't understand motherfuckers that say you don't need naps in life.
Naps are naps are naps are crucial for me.
A good 20 minute power now.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
It wasn't like in half an hour or 45 minutes.
No, it's great.
It's great.
I'm going to.
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There's one more thing too.
Because I was seeing that I was talking to somebody.
About this guy, this guy that I know at the gym, right?
We talk every time we were at the gym and I was talking to this girl about him.
I was out on a little date.
It's not going to this girl.
I was out on a date with about this dude at the gym that I go to, right?
We hang out.
We talk shit, right?
We talk sports or whatever.
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She's like, oh, what's his name?
And I'm like, what do you mean?
She's like, I mean, how long have you been guys been going to the same gym?
Like you should like see if he wants to go to a movie or something.
I'm like, no, no.
He's like the guy that I hang out with at the gym.
Yeah, that's not what guys do.
Yeah.
No, he's like, no, you guys should just, you know, maybe he likes going to.
I'm like, I don't need to know that any of that stuff.
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We like hang out at the gym and we talk shit.
That's what we do.
Yeah.
If you ask that guy if he wants to go get lunch afterwards, he's going to think you're
hitting on him.
I'm like, dude, guys are different than girls.
And she's like, what do you mean?
And I'm like, well, I mean, she's like, I know I met a girlfriend at the gym and we
went out, we went out for a lot of days after we worked out.
I'm like, yeah, that's because you're girls.
That's what you do.
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Yeah.
Right?
I've been hanging out.
I've talked to this guy nine or 10 times at the gym and we talked football.
We talked guy stuff, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
But I ain't going to go hang out with them outside of the gym.
Yeah.
That'd be weird.
It would.
Yeah.
That's something that.
Yeah.
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Do you have dudes that you know that are like that for you?
Or is it just me?
I have in the past.
Right.
But you just have brosie you just game with or whatever.
Yeah.
And you're like, no, those are just my gaming bros.
Yeah, I'm not going to.
And like one guy, you didn't even know his name.
Yes.
Absolutely.
There's always one guy you just don't know his name.
Yeah.
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And you're like, oh, hey, chief.
Hey, bud.
What's up, bud?
Oh, my man.
My man.
Like you've been playing games with this guy for like four years.
You know, all of a sudden one day he's just like, dude, you called me by my name.
You're like, you know, kid, I would, but.
Yeah, I would.
But who needs to do that?
Who needs to do that?
We're just here to game.
Yeah.
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But dude, for the life of me, I don't know this guy's name.
Like it's always, it's always like, hey, bro, what's up, bro?
Yeah.
He's like, did you watch that game the other night?
I'm like, yeah, that was all right.
And what was the other one we talked about?
We were talking about fucking wrestling, right?
Yeah.
He's like, oh, did you watch that pay-per-view last week?
And I was like, yeah, it's the other thing.
Like, you know, it's a dude I talked to about wrestling.
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He's not like, it's not like UFC because I don't follow UFC, but I do follow some wrestling.
And we were talking about fucking wrestling.
There you go.
Right.
And he was talking about how he's taking his wife and his kid to the fucking Sacramento
to go see WWE live.
And I was like, dude, that's pretty cool.
Fuck yeah.
He's like, yeah, my kid's really into it.
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And so, you know, that's about as deep as we get though.
I know he has a kid and I know he has a wife.
Right.
Yeah.
And he, he gives me a hard time because I don't.
Yeah.
Right.
But that's it.
Yeah.
And that's what guys do.
They can talk about fucking sports or whatever the fuck.
Yeah.
And I'm not going to like hang out with them outside of the gym.
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That's just weird.
Yeah.
That would be like, so, yeah.
No, I get it.
I get as a man.
I understand.
Right.
Yeah.
But like you and me, like we've been friends for so long, it wouldn't be weird for me to
like hang out with you outside of doing this because we've done it so many times.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Countless times.
Right.
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It would be weird for me to go hang out with you when you went and did your gaming thing.
Yeah.
You just hanging out there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be a little weird.
Like weirdo.
Who's that guy in the chair over there?
Yeah.
Hey Max, who's your plus one?
Well, I don't know chief.
He's a, he just sort of followed me here.
Try to ignore him.
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I don't remember his name.
Oh, but this is handy.
Oh, this is my friend Shane.
Shane this.
Oh, they're chief.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's our episode.
I didn't want to end it up on a dark note and I think we didn't, I think we ended on
a light note.
Absolutely.
So thank you for listening.
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If you stuck all the way through, we appreciate you.
Yeah.
And until next time, don't be a dick.
Oh, don't be a dick.
Yeah, that's what we say now.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
Yeah, it's better than don't shit yourself.
It is better than don't shit yourself.
Although don't shit yourself, you know, comes in handy.
It does.
Shane and Max told me not to shit myself.
Yeah, but here's, I think don't shit yourself is a given for like all but one out of a thousand
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people.
Yeah.
Don't be a dick is for everybody.
Don't be a dick.
Everybody needs a reminder sometimes.
Nobody needs to be reminded not to shit themselves.
Everybody as a going thing just has it.
They take for granted that today they're, they're not going to shit themselves.
If they do, it's an accident, you know.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
But to be reminding not to be a dick is kind of important.
Yeah.
Oh my God, by the way, I am so lucky.
But you're not a dick?
That I didn't shit myself when I was sick.
Yeah.
Because I was like, I was like too sick to get out of bed.
Right.
And I also had the crazy shits.
Yeah.
But I would just, I would just like, I would just sort of like lay there and bear it while
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my guts gurgled for a few hours while I built up the energy to make it to the bathroom.
And then I would just sort of make it to the bat.
And then I would like rest on the toilet for a while after I was doing that.
Yeah.
It sounds like the vid.
It sounds like the vid.
Yeah, it was rough.
And then I would, and then I would get up after my toilet rest, you know, 20 minutes snoozing
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on the, on the can and stumble back to bed.
Anyway, that's our episode.
Yeah.
Don't be a dick.
Don't be a dick.
If you liked it all the way through leave us a review, you know, a like, a comment, anything.
Interact with us.
Yeah.
Interact with us.
You know, send us an email.
(38:35):
Tell us your experience of not being a dick.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Till next time.
Yep.
Bye.
So
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deal with something, go insane.
Next is
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Hey, welcome back to the Shade and I Show.
My name is Shane.
My name is Max.
Puzzles come in pieces that you put together.
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Oh, why?
I know it's coming, right?
Yeah.
I know you're going to see us up in random and it's coming.
Every time you do it, it just makes me laugh.
It makes me stop and I have to laugh.
Well, there it is.
And it's just so logical too at the same time.
I usually just make statements of facts.
(01:01):
Yeah.
But everybody knows puzzles come in pieces, right?
Well, I mean, there are some kind of puzzles that are like a single thing, like a puzzle
box for example.
That's one thing and then you got to open it.
Right.
But I happen to be looking at a jigsaw puzzle.
Yeah.
So you just go off with it, whatever you're looking at.
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And usually, yeah.
Yeah.
So if you were looking at my thumb, I'd say I could slice off that thumb to keep as a
trophy.
Hey, this is the podcast about nothing that makes you think of something.
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All right.
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All right.
All right.
I'm going to try really hard.
There's some business things I wanted to talk about, but I think I do it too much.
All right.
So what's up with you?
I was sick recently.
Did you have the vid?
I don't think so.
I tested and I came back nev-ed.
Nev-ed?
Yeah.
I came back nev-ed, but from what I understand, like one of the new variants doesn't test
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positive on the home tests anyway.
Yeah.
Did you feel like the vid?
It just felt terrible, man.
I think just my new reaction to having a fever is that my whole fucking body is going to
hurt.
Right.
You just become a bitch.
And I don't become a bitch.
I sleep.
I sleep a lot.
Yeah, but do you whine?
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I fucking whine, but I don't know.
Luckily, it's just me in the room.
Like, nobody will see me whine.
Yeah, I get that.
I was too sick to whine.
Right.
I was like, yeah.
Like, you ever been so sick that and so like fucking just worn out and depleted from it
that you're like, I would love to express how bad this feels, but I just don't have the
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energy for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was like that.
I had the vid, like way back when.
Yeah, it sucked.
How long did it last?
The worst of it just lasted a day.
It was bad enough that I was considering going to the fucking ER to get checked out just
to make sure I wasn't dying.
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Right.
Because I was like, this feels so fucking like a human body isn't supposed to feel this
way.
I'm worried.
Right.
But then I woke up the next day and I was noticeably less sick.
Yeah, and you were like, hospital, let's not go.
Well, I mean, if I'm getting better, why go?
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it's $400 to walk in the door.
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I know, man.
I know.
Need help.
Okay.
That'll be $455.
That'll be 32 cents.
Yeah.
Why do they always get to throw like the 32 cents in like when you were, when you're a
fucking, when you buy, have a purchase of like, if you have to go to a fucking hospital
or you're paying insurance or like you're paying a bill, right?
(04:14):
They always have like, oh, it's like $455 and 27 cents.
And like, if you don't pay that 27 cents, they fucking hand you for it.
Yeah.
They're like, where's my mother fucking 27 cents?
Yeah.
You're like, bro, it's 27 cents.
Like if you go to the emergency room, right?
And it's like $400 and $32, right?
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Uh-huh.
$432 and 29 cents.
Yep.
You don't pay that 29 cents.
They send you to collections for that 29 fucking cents.
If you, especially if it's for a small thing, if you talk to them and tell them like, I
just can't like do this right now, they will fucking just write it off and you'll be fine.
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They won't hand you for it.
It's just strange.
Like, why do you gotta throw in the cents?
Why do you have to throw in the cents?
Yeah.
Why can't you just use a nice round number?
Like, yeah, okay.
Like my insurance is like, my insurance a month, I pay like $48, right?
Yeah.
And it's just $48.
Yeah.
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It's not like $48 and 29 cents.
Right.
Or it is my policy.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, that's the simple part.
But you know, when they're collecting their copays and all that, you know, they collect
a million of them.
29 cents times a million is a lot of cents.
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That's 29 million cents.
I mean, some guy somewhere sat in the room.
Yeah.
And was like, you know how it could really fuck with people?
29 cents.
29 cents.
Or if you really want to blow their mind, fucking just use like a, like a, like actually
I think 29 is a prime number.
So never mind.
Just use a prime number like 29.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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So you get surgery and it's like $15,000 and 32 cents.
Yeah.
And you pay off the whole $15,000 and they're like, well, wait a minute here.
Where's my fucking 32 cents?
Where's our 32 cents?
Yeah.
This thing has been going on for a year and a half.
We've had to send you a collection.
That 32 cents now is like 500 bucks.
(06:18):
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden you got this collection agency calling you and the collection agency
is like, can I speak with Mr. Mc...
They never...
And the collection agency is never fucking pronounced your name right.
Well, they don't give a shit.
Yeah.
Can I speak with Mr. Maxwell McDonough...
McDonough Hold?
Yeah.
(06:39):
Like nobody mispronounces my name.
No, I'm just trying.
Okay.
I'm trying, man.
Yeah.
They fucking mispronounce my name all the time.
Well, your name spelled insanely.
I get called Shwayne.
Yeah.
No, I believe it.
Shwayne.
I believe it.
Like Wayne, right?
Yeah.
Like Wayne, but it's Shwayne.
Whoever it was, probably your parents who decided what your name was going to be, they
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decided to spell it.
Just...
There's just a Y actually.
It's S-H-A-Y-N-E.
It's not weird.
You don't need the Y and the E.
Well, that's...
It is what it is.
Yeah.
I'm a unique individual.
You are.
What else is going on?
Oh, shit, man.
(07:24):
I was...
You know what I was thinking about?
Yeah.
I'm just going to throw this out there because I don't really have a topic.
Fucking do it.
We never have a topic.
That's not true.
Sometimes we do, but we rarely end up talking about it.
Yeah, but today I came in here blank.
All right.
Today I came in here blank, but I was thinking about something.
I remember a time where people actually thought that if...
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And hopefully, well, this might offend some people.
If you're one of these individuals, this might offend you, but there was a time in life where
people thought if stupid people had more information, they wouldn't be so much of a
stupid.
Yeah.
That didn't turn out very well, did it?
No, it didn't.
Well, here's the thing.
People got more information and became stupider.
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I think here's what happened.
Here's what happened.
People assume...
The people who thought everybody should have more information assumed as a base assumption
that that information should be correct and truthful and distributed in good faith.
Yeah, but that didn't happen.
That didn't happen.
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Right?
So if everybody was given the information that bluebirds are blue...
Right.
Right?
Bear with me here.
I'm scared with you.
Yeah, everybody's given the information that bluebirds are blue.
Right.
Now, some people are going to ask why are bluebirds blue?
(08:55):
We got to get to the bottom of this.
So the fact...
And some bluebirds.
The fact of the matter is bluebirds, the way that their f*****g feathers are designed
on a microscopic level just refracts blue light.
Yeah.
Right.
As opposed to pigment, which absorbs all light, but the blue light.
So now some people have been out there and they know full well that it's the microscopic
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refraction of whatever.
Right.
Okay.
And I'm being purposely...
I'm getting into a really weird, obscure topic.
Right.
Okay.
Now, somebody out there on accident said, well, duh, they have blue pigment in their
feathers.
Right.
That's not what it is.
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But they said duh and a lot of people believed them.
Right.
And then somebody said, you know what?
Somebody in the blue pigment industry.
Is there a blue pigment industry?
Whatever.
Big pigment.
All right.
So, big pigment was like, guys, we got to support this.
Yeah.
Right?
We have to stop letting people get going after our bluebirds.
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Yeah.
We have to stop letting people think that right now, as long as people think it's pigment,
it's free advertising for us.
When they discover the truth, it stops being free advertising for us.
Okay.
So, they're out there spreading that lie for their own sinister ends.
For years.
Yeah.
And now, because people have decided that what really matters is why bluebirds are blue.
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Right.
There's a whole culture war of pigment people versus refraction people.
Now, neither of these people has bothered to look in a microscope to actually get the
proof for themselves.
Right.
Right.
Now, it might be because of refraction and the refraction people who know this to be
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true are honestly just taking the word of light scientists or probably.
So the people over here.
And then the pigment people are just taking the word of the guy that said duh.
Are just taking the word of the guy that said duh.
Right?
He was like, not it.
He was not credited for anything.
Yes.
And both sides are convinced that the other is probably evil and quite possibly raping
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children to death.
Yeah.
Because of this.
And that's the way the more information thing worked out.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, and the other thing I was the other reason I was thinking about this, right, is
because I've been watching our buddies, the alpha dudes.
Oh, all right.
They've been they've been at it again.
Yeah.
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They have a three day camp.
A three day camp.
Yeah.
Alpha camp.
75, 75 hours, three days, 18,000 bucks.
They ship you down.
You go down there.
Yeah.
And a lot of people are making a big deal about this.
And there's a reason why I'm talking about this.
A lot of people are and I had a different avenue that I was going to take with this,
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but I've been thinking about it.
A lot of people have been just like, dude, you got to be an idiot to pay 18,000 bucks.
18,000 dollars.
Yeah.
To have our army veterans.
Tell you.
Be literally you for like three days.
Right.
And I was watching some other.
I then I did some more research around it.
Uh huh.
And I was looking at the type of dudes that go to this thing, right?
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Yeah.
And they are the type of dudes that need somebody.
To just yell on their face.
To just yell at their face and tell them to fucking stop lying.
Okay.
Right.
So they're actually getting the medicine they need.
Yeah.
They're just being duped into it.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think they're being duped into it.
They know what they're signing up for.
If they're paying the 18 grand, right?
They have the money to pay it.
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Yeah.
Right.
They're the ones that are being like, okay, maybe I need this in my life.
Or somebody in their life is like, hey, you're a fucking idiot and you need to go to this
thing.
Okay.
Right.
Yeah.
Somebody's somewhere is like, so my example is this, right?
This guy, he has four, five pound weights in his hand and the guy's yelling at him.
(13:02):
Yeah.
He's like, how many weights do you, what are the weights in your hand?
Uh huh.
Right.
And the guy's like 20 pounds.
And he's like, no, what are the weights in your, what are the, what are the increments
of the weight in your hand?
He's like 10 pounds.
And he's like, why are you fucking lying?
So this guy with the weights in his hand is fucking lying out of the gate.
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They're five pounds, right?
He has two five pound weights in one hand, two five pound weights in another hand.
He could have misunderstood the question.
No.
The guy said, what are the increments, how many he could have, but the guy looked like
an idiot.
He looked like he's, he's one of those guys that tries to bullshit his way through.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like he looks like a fucking weasel.
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Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I think the people that sign up for these things are dudes that are weasels that don't
want to be weasels anymore.
Or somebody, like I said in their life is like, you're acting like a fucktard.
I didn't say, I didn't say the R word.
I said fucktard.
Yes.
You're acting like a fucktard.
You need to go get some kind of fucking help.
I'm trying to take a different approach to this thing because I think these guys get
(14:08):
hammered on.
Yeah.
And they get railed on by people.
Like I'm more inclined to figure out why these guys want to pay 18 grand to go yell
them.
I think it's because I think it's, I really think it's because they're fucktards and
they need somebody like, they've never had like a male role model in their life or anything
and they try to get out of everything.
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They try to weasel out of everything and they like, you know, they don't do the hard, they
don't do hard work.
You know what I mean?
Like they don't, they've never had to do hard work in their life.
Right.
And so the solution instead of grinding down and working on themselves.
They don't know how to.
No, no, no, I get that.
But the solution instead of learning how to do this and get this done is to pay 18 grand
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to get it all done in three days so they'll be fixed.
Dude, if you have the money and you want a quick fix, why the fuck not?
Because there's no quick fixes to character difficulties.
We know that.
We know.
We know.
These guys paid this money, don't know that.
Yeah.
I'm just saying these fucking alpha dog guys or whatever the fuck they are are preying
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on the week to give them exactly what they've always wanted, which is a quick fix for the
least possible effort.
They're just emptying out their bank accounts to do it.
See, I don't think, I don't know, man, I'm trying to have a different.
Because I hammer on the ones that I really go off on are the fake alpha guys that are
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on the internet.
But I think I was watching a couple of things and these guys actually, the guys that run
this thing, they actually mean well.
You know what I mean?
They're like, at least I think, right?
They mean well.
And I had to watch a few different things, right?
I had to do some research and I had to fucking watch a few different things.
(15:58):
Right?
And I watched the people that flag, they talk shit about the program that never, that wouldn't
pay the 18 grand to do it.
And then I watched some things about guys that did pay for it, right?
They did pay the 18 grand.
And one guy actually did it and he quit two days into it.
And he said it was too hard and he didn't want to do it.
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He didn't want to change.
Right?
He realized two days into it, he didn't want to change and he fucking left in the middle
of the night.
Okay.
Right?
Yeah.
But I don't know, man.
It's just weird to me that people can't, especially men, especially men, like we can't, they can't
just be like, oh yeah, I don't want to be a weasel anymore.
(16:39):
And let me try to fucking figure out a way to change and work on that shit on your own.
Like, you know, I bet it should, I bet it should head.
Yeah, me too.
I made mistakes in my life, but I've learned from that shit and I've kind of moved on to
where I don't make those mistakes anymore.
Yeah.
You put in the hard work and soul searching required to change your character shortcomings.
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Right.
But I mean, it's, now I'm going to go back to this.
It's going to sound like I'm contradicting myself.
18 grand isn't going to fix that.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're fuck, and you go into this week and a fuck, you may come out a couple
days not being a fuck, but you're going to still wind up a week later being a fuck.
(17:24):
If you don't take the principles or whatever they're trying to teach you and put it into
action in your life.
So you just wasted 18 grand.
Yeah.
Right.
I think that's where a lot of the internet stuff is coming from is people are talking
about why do it.
Yeah.
Because I, all right, I will, I will, okay, I'll give these guys the benefit of the doubt.
(17:49):
That's what I'm trying to do.
All right.
Fine.
But still what they're doing is even giving them the benefit of the doubt, what they're
doing is offering weasels the weasel way out.
Right.
I agree with you.
No, I agree with you.
Yeah.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
Even if they don't know that's what they're doing.
Right.
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Yeah.
Right.
No, I agree with you.
But I'm just trying to have a different approach because they think a lot of people
slag on this and trust me, I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't do it.
If they said, hey, why don't you, if you want to, if they actually came to me and said,
if they listen to this podcast and like, hey, you seem pretty open minded about what we
do here, why don't you, we'll, we'll fly you down here.
(18:30):
We'll let you do this whole program for free and you can have your own.
I'd fucking do it.
Oh, yeah.
If they're going to give us free shit, I will erase this episode right now.
No, I'm not going to erase the episode.
Well, if they're going to pay us, I will.
And I will go all in on fucking supporting this shit if they'll pay us.
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But the ones, the other ones that get me are these guys online that try to tell you how
to be a man.
It's just, it just boggles me.
Do people really follow, like listen to these dudes?
Like, it's weird.
Well, maybe it's a generational thing.
Like maybe because, you know what, like, like my generation, like we never, it was never
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discussed, you know what I mean?
This is like what you do, right?
Like this is what do you do to be like you had examples and you're on or you looked at
other people and there's like, oh, that's what you do.
Right?
You try not to treat people like shit, you know, or whatever.
But I don't know, man, I was watching, I went down this rabbit hole of alpha stuff and it
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just boggles my mind that there's dudes that are out there like, oh, that's what I need.
That's what I need in my life.
Right?
And got me thinking, I should come up with my own fucking program.
We already have.
Yeah, but I mean, where I get down there and then here's that, you know, I was looking
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to improve that seven and one half steps to a brighter, better you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that half step, you know what that half step is paying us 18 grand.
Well, yeah, but the other half of that is so it'd be eight steps to a brighter.
I added the other half.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The other step is I come into your house and I just fucking yell at you.
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Yeah.
Why you do stupid shit?
All right.
Yeah.
Why are you talking to your wife that way?
Yeah.
We could even do it even better than that.
Yeah.
Or what we'll do, here's what we'll do.
We will offer to sell them a home surveillance system and we'll get the feed to the home
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surveillance system and there will be speakers and shit.
And so we.
When they do something stupid, we can just blast them.
Just fucking blast them.
Just be like, hey, fuck.
Tart.
Try listening to your wife when she talks to you in 2 a.m.
Hey, fuck.
Tart, get up.
Yeah.
Time for your nine mile run.
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Yeah.
It's part of being a alpha man.
Go fucking run for nine miles.
Fucking run for nine miles.
We could fucking prerecord a bunch of stuff and just set it on timer.
Some of it will just go off at random.
Yeah.
That'd be cool.
Yeah.
That's the extra help.
That's the extra help.
The extra help is.
(21:24):
Yeah.
So look, they'll have to buy the cameras from us and they'll have to buy the speakers from
us.
Right.
And of course, they'll have to pay like a monthly fee for the surveillance service
from us.
And our secret videos.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's all on top of the 18 grand.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like if you just go down there to get yelled at for three days or whatever, dude, you should
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at least offer some shit after like after words, right?
Absolutely.
Like the installing cameras is brilliant.
Yeah.
Just imagine you're like the dude's just sitting there eating.
Why the fuck are you eating in and out, you tard?
Yeah.
I see you there with your tube of cookie dough sitting in your undies sobbing.
(22:10):
You know your kid is a fuck and you need to help your kid.
Yeah.
Go be a dad.
That's right.
You know, your kid just jacked off into the manna of the jar.
But you just used stuff.
I wanted to let you eat it before I told you.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was it.
I don't know.
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I go I occasionally go on these deep dives.
It just boggles my mind that these guys exist in this in this and that people actually
like listen to what these guys have to say.
Right.
Like the guy and the guy.
I understand his is more shock value, right?
This is more like people don't agree with them.
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It's more shock value.
Like that just was like let me get views kind of thing.
You know what I mean?
But there's actual serious guys that really believe their own their own height.
Yeah.
Or or they're so good at talking about it that they make you think they really believe their
own height.
Right.
Who is that guy?
The guy that had the Lamborghini in his garage, but it wasn't about the Lamborghini.
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He's about the books on a shelf.
Remember that guy?
No.
He was like big on YouTube for a while.
You'd always have those commercials like when YouTube ads first started.
Mm hmm.
Like he was like one of the first guys to figure out YouTube ads and he had an ad on YouTube
where he's like my name is Ty Lopez.
That's who it is.
No idea.
Ty Lopez.
(23:34):
My name is Ty Lopez and yeah, I just got this Lamborghini and the Lamborghini's cool,
but you want to know what's cooler is the bookshelf in my garage.
Lamborghini's were never his, but he would try to sell you this.
Remember it's where I came up with a seven and one half steps.
You try to say you 99 steps.
Okay.
For like an obscene amount of money.
Yeah, I don't remember this guy.
(23:57):
You should Google good old Ty Lopez.
We just don't care enough.
You should.
I can't Google every snake oil salesman out there.
He was good.
Good for him for being a good snake oil salesman.
I'll Google Tony Robbins and Scientology and all of it.
Tony Robbins is another guy.
Yeah.
(24:17):
Tony Robbins.
Another snake oil salesman.
Tony Robbins got famous for being a snake oil salesman.
Well he got famous for being a good snake oil salesman that people actually bought the
snake oil.
Yeah.
And then he would like go on fucking like be interviewed.
What was his big thing though?
Was he teaching, he wasn't teaching financial freedom though, was he?
No, no.
He was like like self actualization maybe some shit like that.
(24:42):
But basically he was like a real good talker and people would pay boo boo bucks to go watch
him talk.
People still do.
People still do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he's still a big deal.
I don't know.
Anyway, Tony Robbins.
I mean good for him.
He got he made millions of dollars for being a real good talker.
(25:02):
Yeah.
In that smile always just remember him smiling.
Little smiling.
We see the vision board guy with me the guy that was like oh you gotta have a vision board.
I don't.
You gotta have a vision board to fucking keep your dreams in sight.
I don't know.
I never actually looked into it.
I tried a vision board once.
I never did.
It never worked.
(25:22):
I mean every now and then I'll put up a board to like try to organize myself.
Right.
It not not as a vision board but like hey I have an appointment on the 23rd.
Right.
That's why most people put up boards.
Yeah.
I would avoid that on the 23rd and then I gotta go fucking get my will changed on the
same day.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Here's the list of stuff I want to get done this week.
(25:44):
And then I gotta make sure the dogs get bathed.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So that was my vision board.
I think it's more of a day planner.
Yeah.
It is.
Yeah.
No but there I want to say it was Tony Robbins.
I could be wrong but somebody made a bunch of fucking money.
She's telling people to have a vision board.
Yeah.
I know a lot of people that have made a lot of money just for basically saying shit that
(26:06):
makes that gives people hope.
All this shit.
All this shit we're talking about.
Right.
Is you're giving hopeless people some hope and hopeless people and I know I've been
a hopeless person.
Me too.
And they will they will do or give anything for just a little bit of hope.
Yeah.
You're like man that sounds really good.
Yeah.
I'll give you 18.
I can see why.
(26:27):
Like if you're a fucking back to the alpha guys.
I give you a fucking fuck and you're a hopeless fuck.
Yeah.
And you know you're a hopeless fuck.
Yeah.
And you see some dude that just got back from the alpha man weekend or whatever it's called.
Yeah.
And he's like you changed my life.
Yeah.
You should sign up for it.
Yeah.
And he calls you like bro or chief afterwards.
Yeah.
Because that's kind of the slang I imagine those guys use after they're done.
(26:49):
Yeah.
Or brother.
Brother.
There it is.
Change my life brother.
Yes.
Every other words brother.
Yeah.
Or bro.
Oh the bros.
Bro you gotta go to this thing.
Self actualization.
Fucking money tree.
Fucking yelling at you.
Fucking board.
(27:10):
It's all that wrapped into what and then all of a sudden you're there.
You got this hammer up in the air.
They're spraying water on you and all the fucking out of nowhere all of a sudden Tony
Robbins shows up with his big smile and his suit in the middle of a fucking night to tell
you how to self actualize yourself.
Yep.
(27:30):
And it would be better.
And then that guy from trailer park boys comes in and only wants to do is tell you
how to self smart yourself.
Self smart yourself.
Yep.
It's worth it bro.
Yeah.
Pay the 18 grand brother.
Yeah thanks Ricky.
Yeah.
They should have Ricky.
You're the fucking self actualization.
Hell yeah.
(27:51):
Hey he's one of the most self actualized guys on television.
He really is.
Yeah.
Yeah man.
Tony Robbins.
Excuse me.
Yeah.
I didn't just burp into the mic.
I tried not to.
Well you know I applaud your effort.
There was effort there.
There was effort.
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There was effort.
Yeah.
I'm trying to be nice to you guys.
It's not about whether you succeed or fail.
It's about whether you try.
No.
And you know what's.
And I think that that's enough of a hopeful thing that the audience can pay me $18,000
for having heard it.
Dude I'm telling you if we ever got seven and one half steps to a brandy brandy you
(28:32):
written we could be making some boo-boo bucks.
Oh absolutely.
Shane if I gave up my moral fiber and was willing to just fucking create and sell snake
oil for the masses.
My god.
My god.
It would be it's like man it's just the internet is it's like back to the beginning.
(28:56):
It's like you know it was okay when there was no internet and you were stupid.
It was kind of alright.
Right.
You could kind of be in your little stupid world.
Yeah.
Remember.
And not have all the information.
Yeah.
But if you're a stupid person with a bunch of information that's wrong.
(29:20):
You don't know what's wrong.
You don't know what's wrong.
You gotta pick a side of the bluebird fight.
You do you have to pick a side of the bluebird fight.
Are you the are you the the the pig the pigments.
Yeah.
Or the refractors.
Yeah.
You gotta pick a side because that's just gonna prove what kind of person you are.
(29:41):
Yeah.
You know that proves where you got your internet from.
It proves not only where you got your internet from but that you're one of those people who
doesn't actually truly care about whether or not you know the facts.
Or by the snake oil.
Right.
Some people care more about truth than facts.
Right.
These are those people.
(30:02):
Right.
So what side would those people be on if you were a truth and fact person.
You could be on either side.
So it really doesn't matter.
Right.
If even if everything you believe is a fact you could still believe or you could still
be one of those people for whom truth is more important than facts.
It just so happens that the truth you believe has a lot of facts to do with it for any given
(30:28):
whatever.
That said, you wouldn't know.
You wouldn't know whether you're on the fact side or the not fact side of any given issue
because you don't actually care.
Because the truth is what you care about.
And the truth is what you believe.
And the truth is what you believe.
Right.
Truth is a matter of belief.
(30:49):
So if you believe that you're a weasel and need to spend 18 grand on an alpha male camp.
Go and do it.
Yeah.
Then such is true.
Then that's your truth, babe.
Yeah.
If that's your truth, that's your truth.
Go and do it.
Yeah.
That said, maybe just try like looking in the mirror for 20 minutes.
I mean, literally.
It's hard for some people to be.
Yeah.
(31:10):
No, I know.
I remember I couldn't look in the mirror.
I know.
Hey, I fucking.
They're like years.
They're like, oh, fuck.
Dude, I remember one morning getting up and fucking like, you know, getting up and walking
in the bathroom and looking in the mirror and literally like a fucking like a human being
(31:31):
that I've never seen before was there looking back at me.
Yeah.
And I was startled because I didn't know who the fuck this person was.
And then I.
And then I made the conclusion that it's a mirror.
It must be me.
I stopped looking in mirrors for a while.
Yeah.
I think people do.
It's uncomfortable, man.
Yeah.
I'm going to end on this.
Nothing deep.
(31:52):
I'm going to tell a story about my nap today.
Oh, yeah.
Because I like naps.
Naps are nice.
Yes.
But it was such a.
It was like only a 20 minute nap.
All right.
But it was like such a deep nap that I woke up and I thought I had to go to work.
Damn.
Like I woke up and I was like, oh, shit.
I looked at time.
I'm like, oh, shit.
I'm late.
I'm like energy and yeah, and mental clarity.
(32:15):
Yeah.
I love the perfect power now that recharges you.
And I don't understand motherfuckers that say you don't need naps in life.
Naps are naps are naps are crucial for me.
A good 20 minute power now.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
It wasn't like in half an hour or 45 minutes.
No, it's great.
It's great.
I'm going to.
(32:35):
There's one more thing too.
Because I was seeing that I was talking to somebody.
About this guy, this guy that I know at the gym, right?
We talk every time we were at the gym and I was talking to this girl about him.
I was out on a little date.
It's not going to this girl.
I was out on a date with about this dude at the gym that I go to, right?
We hang out.
We talk shit, right?
We talk sports or whatever.
(32:57):
She's like, oh, what's his name?
And I'm like, what do you mean?
She's like, I mean, how long have you been guys been going to the same gym?
Like you should like see if he wants to go to a movie or something.
I'm like, no, no.
He's like the guy that I hang out with at the gym.
Yeah, that's not what guys do.
Yeah.
No, he's like, no, you guys should just, you know, maybe he likes going to.
I'm like, I don't need to know that any of that stuff.
(33:18):
We like hang out at the gym and we talk shit.
That's what we do.
Yeah.
If you ask that guy if he wants to go get lunch afterwards, he's going to think you're
hitting on him.
I'm like, dude, guys are different than girls.
And she's like, what do you mean?
And I'm like, well, I mean, she's like, I know I met a girlfriend at the gym and we
went out, we went out for a lot of days after we worked out.
I'm like, yeah, that's because you're girls.
That's what you do.
(33:38):
Yeah.
Right?
I've been hanging out.
I've talked to this guy nine or 10 times at the gym and we talked football.
We talked guy stuff, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
But I ain't going to go hang out with them outside of the gym.
Yeah.
That'd be weird.
It would.
Yeah.
That's something that.
Yeah.
(33:58):
Do you have dudes that you know that are like that for you?
Or is it just me?
I have in the past.
Right.
But you just have brosie you just game with or whatever.
Yeah.
And you're like, no, those are just my gaming bros.
Yeah, I'm not going to.
And like one guy, you didn't even know his name.
Yes.
Absolutely.
There's always one guy you just don't know his name.
Yeah.
(34:19):
And you're like, oh, hey, chief.
Hey, bud.
What's up, bud?
Oh, my man.
My man.
Like you've been playing games with this guy for like four years.
You know, all of a sudden one day he's just like, dude, you called me by my name.
You're like, you know, kid, I would, but.
Yeah, I would.
But who needs to do that?
Who needs to do that?
We're just here to game.
Yeah.
(34:40):
But dude, for the life of me, I don't know this guy's name.
Like it's always, it's always like, hey, bro, what's up, bro?
Yeah.
He's like, did you watch that game the other night?
I'm like, yeah, that was all right.
And what was the other one we talked about?
We were talking about fucking wrestling, right?
Yeah.
He's like, oh, did you watch that pay-per-view last week?
And I was like, yeah, it's the other thing.
Like, you know, it's a dude I talked to about wrestling.
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He's not like, it's not like UFC because I don't follow UFC, but I do follow some wrestling.
And we were talking about fucking wrestling.
There you go.
Right.
And he was talking about how he's taking his wife and his kid to the fucking Sacramento
to go see WWE live.
And I was like, dude, that's pretty cool.
Fuck yeah.
He's like, yeah, my kid's really into it.
(35:22):
And so, you know, that's about as deep as we get though.
I know he has a kid and I know he has a wife.
Right.
Yeah.
And he, he gives me a hard time because I don't.
Yeah.
Right.
But that's it.
Yeah.
And that's what guys do.
They can talk about fucking sports or whatever the fuck.
Yeah.
And I'm not going to like hang out with them outside of the gym.
(35:42):
That's just weird.
Yeah.
That would be like, so, yeah.
No, I get it.
I get as a man.
I understand.
Right.
Yeah.
But like you and me, like we've been friends for so long, it wouldn't be weird for me to
like hang out with you outside of doing this because we've done it so many times.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
Countless times.
Right.
(36:03):
It would be weird for me to go hang out with you when you went and did your gaming thing.
Yeah.
You just hanging out there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be a little weird.
Like weirdo.
Who's that guy in the chair over there?
Yeah.
Hey Max, who's your plus one?
Well, I don't know chief.
He's a, he just sort of followed me here.
Try to ignore him.
(36:23):
I don't remember his name.
Oh, but this is handy.
Oh, this is my friend Shane.
Shane this.
Oh, they're chief.
Yeah.
Anyway, that's our episode.
I didn't want to end it up on a dark note and I think we didn't, I think we ended on
a light note.
Absolutely.
So thank you for listening.
(36:45):
If you stuck all the way through, we appreciate you.
Yeah.
And until next time, don't be a dick.
Oh, don't be a dick.
Yeah, that's what we say now.
I like that.
I like that a lot.
Yeah, it's better than don't shit yourself.
It is better than don't shit yourself.
Although don't shit yourself, you know, comes in handy.
It does.
Shane and Max told me not to shit myself.
Yeah, but here's, I think don't shit yourself is a given for like all but one out of a thousand
(37:09):
people.
Yeah.
Don't be a dick is for everybody.
Don't be a dick.
Everybody needs a reminder sometimes.
Nobody needs to be reminded not to shit themselves.
Everybody as a going thing just has it.
They take for granted that today they're, they're not going to shit themselves.
If they do, it's an accident, you know.
(37:30):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But to be reminding not to be a dick is kind of important.
Yeah.
Oh my God, by the way, I am so lucky.
But you're not a dick?
That I didn't shit myself when I was sick.
Yeah.
Because I was like, I was like too sick to get out of bed.
Right.
And I also had the crazy shits.
Yeah.
But I would just, I would just like, I would just sort of like lay there and bear it while
(37:53):
my guts gurgled for a few hours while I built up the energy to make it to the bathroom.
And then I would just sort of make it to the bat.
And then I would like rest on the toilet for a while after I was doing that.
Yeah.
It sounds like the vid.
It sounds like the vid.
Yeah, it was rough.
And then I would, and then I would get up after my toilet rest, you know, 20 minutes snoozing
(38:13):
on the, on the can and stumble back to bed.
Anyway, that's our episode.
Yeah.
Don't be a dick.
Don't be a dick.
If you liked it all the way through leave us a review, you know, a like, a comment, anything.
Interact with us.
Yeah.
Interact with us.
You know, send us an email.
(38:35):
Tell us your experience of not being a dick.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Till next time.
Yep.
Bye.
So
(39:03):
deal with something, go insane.
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Join me on this podcast as I navigate the murky waters of human behavior, current events, and personal anecdotes through in-depth interviews with incredible people—all served with a generous helping of sarcasm and satire. After years as a forensic and clinical psychologist, I offer a unique interview style and a low tolerance for bullshit, quickly steering conversations toward depth and darkness. I honor the seriousness while also appreciating wit. I’m your guide through the twisted labyrinth of the human psyche, armed with dark humor and biting wit.