Brightburn (2019)

Red Light Chills

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On this weeks episode Andrew and Sam take a look at the chilling acts of violence perpetrated by a child superman not upheld by his typical morals and values. Will we leave this movie to be blown to bits by a fit of rage, or will we save it and hide it away somewhere safe?

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Episode Transcript

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Warning, this episode contains spoilers for 2019's Brightburn
and 2025's Superman. Here at Shelf Warmers we would
like to take a moment to put a spotlight and a very important
quote to deal with some very important recent news release.

(00:22):
The Epstein files. All of them for those of us with
nothing to fear. The truth cannot come soon
enough. I hate to make this about me,
but the media already has Kevin Spacey.

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Welcome back to Shell Formers. I'm Sam.
And I'm Andrew. This is the podcast, if we
weren't clear already, where we watch and discuss movies from
roughly 2012 to 2020. Also known as the pump and dump
period of Hollywood. Not exactly a golden age, but
definitely a time of high fertility for Tinseltown.

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So fertile, in fact, that we didnot see many of the movies
produced Sam. So they're good, they're bad, or
just meh. We're going to cover it all.
It's been sitting on the shelf. God damn it, it's time to take
it down. Fuck.
Get that shit off the shelf right now.
Today we're covering Bright Burn2019. 2019 The 2019 American

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superhero film, if you didn't know, directed by some guy I'd
never really heard of. James Gunn's friend.
David Yorevsky. Yeah, and written by a full
Arsenal, Brian Gunn and Mark Gunn.
I mean, come on. Brian and Mark Gunn, one of
which is a brother, the other one's a cousin, I found out.

(01:56):
I guess a cousin of a gun would would would be what?
A bow and arrow. The cousin.
I guess it is the cousin. Well, I would first name was
Mark, Bow and Arrow then, but that's also fine.
Mark Bow and arrow produced by Gun produced Morgan, the most
famous gun James. Yeah, the most famous gun behind
Smith and Wesson. Winchester the big name.

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James. James Gunn is it and a gun.
No relation. I don't talk.
For Breaking Bad. Who are the other famous guns?
Is there a gun from Project Run Ray?
Tom Gun. Tim Gun.
Tim Gun. Tim Gun.
Tim, Tim Apple. Tim Gun Gun Gunderson from

(02:43):
Fargo. That's.
True. Real quick 7° in Kevin Bacon.
OK, the Tim Apple, the 2 James gun.
Who's Tim Apple again? Tim.
Cook, Tim Cook. That's what Trump called him,
and now I call him Tim Apple because my brain just has
associated that. Is Tim Cook in a movie?

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Well, he's produced movies probably.
He's a CEO of Apple Films or whatever it's called all.
Right, Tim Cook produced fuckingF1.
OK, yeah, and I'm going to who? Bacon.
To James Gunn. To James Gunn.
Oh, got it all right. Tim Cook.
Tim Apple presumably had something to do with killers.

(03:26):
Sure, With Leo. He gave $300 million to an 85
year old. Yeah.
Some 85 year old crazy person named Marty Leo's in Wolf with
Margot Robbie. Margot Robbie is in the Suicide
Squad. Yeah, Superman, obviously
directed by James Gunn. It's also, you know, bright

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burn. This week's episode is a
Superman, not a quite a parody, but like a take on Superman to
take off. And also this is the week of
release of Fantastic Four. So superheroes in July, they're
trying a new bold strategy superheroes for summer movies
all releasing in a similar quarter, the summer quarter.
Is that a new bold take? No, I'm being, I'm being
sarcastic. Dude, you're sometimes, you're a

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good actor and recently you've been trying to trick me recently
you'll just make some dumb ass shit up and I'll be like, what?
Who's a better liar? Me with a little boy from
Brightburn. I was playing soccer and they
asked me to run to play and thenthey started pushing me down the
ground and my shirt ripped. And then and don't.
And don't look at my shirt. And then the kid goes upstairs
and the dad's like he's fucking lying.

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Yeah, that's you. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah,
they're trying to really superhero movies in the summer.
And seems like he's fucking lying.
He don't know anything about. He's an alien.
They've been doing that for years, but he's telling me it's
new. Oh, but burnt out.
He's in the teaser for The Odyssey, and I started laughing
when I saw him because he's so stuck into the Odysseus.

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Odysseus who? Who's heard stories of Odysseus?
Who's heard stories of Odysseus?He's going to.
He's doing the Burns Hall thing where he's just like Shakes.
His head back and forth, yeah, but I love it.
I I, I, I, I love it. I love John Murd, though.
One of my favorite. What are my favorite working
actors today? Every time I see him, he can
make anything just a little bit better for me.

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Easily, and he's cool that honestly the whole trailer is
built around him. Yeah.
Yeah, and Tom Holland crying. Yeah, but just tell next week
you're going to see me let go after a very famous figure.
A scientist. Maybe I won't spoil who, but I
go after a scientist. I go after the scientific
community. You.
Can tell the future for next week's episode.

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Yeah, cool, Marty. He's back.
He's back. I did.
I did. Like I'm back to the Future
thing at work today you do a very famous Sylvester Stallone.
Yeah, you do. You Honestly.
I mean, but I mean, wait, wait, wait.
Starting grocer badge. You can I just wait so I really
watch? We're like brothers.
So we're playing, we're playing Rocky at the theatre next week.

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Yeah. What's that?
You know Rocky, right? Sly.
No, never. Another the way the way you do
your impressions. I used to, I, I watched the
video with him today and Sam Jackson, Sam Jackson's doing New
Orleans King or something like that.
I just been on the Dolphin game and I just got a there was like

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5 seconds where I had no idea what's like I was saying Sam
Jackson was just staring at the camera smiling and I was like,
it's like he really has no idea what's what's like saying to him
right now. But I just started hanging my
lip out at work and I was like, you're telling me they built a
diver here out of ignore? Oh my God.

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Imagine if I was just there withthis instead of instead of
Michael J Wolf. I was there, Wolf.
I was marrying flying. Oh my God.
Sly, it's Fox. Oh, I know, I I know.
I'm a fox kid. Keep punching, keep punching.
But yes, we are releasing this episode a few weeks after

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Superman has debuted. Fantastic Four coming out this
week. Where are we at with superhero
movies? Where are we at with superhero
movies? I mean, this is like a weird
time where it's like we're in our 20s.
We're not like, I'm not like jazzed up about this movie for
weeks when I was a kid. Like we always talk about the

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Age of Ultron hype and nothing will ever touch that.
Yeah, have have I told you my theory on why I like superhero
movies still, even if I don't like them?
Like why? Like why why like I keep going
back to them. Tell it to the audience.
I I think that everybody has to have their one media from

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childhood that like is their caveat, like, you know, whatever
it is, you always are going to enjoy it.
And I was a kid who read comic books.
I still read comic books. And when I was younger, I think
my thing for a bit was Star Wars, and I was obsessed with
Star Wars, like probably even more than I was for comic books.
But I got burned so badly. And this is not me shooting on

(08:18):
Disney Star Wars. I don't really care.
Like, you know, I love Andor, Andor Fantastic.
I enjoyed Episode 8 a lot. Big show your show, guy.
Well, I was not watching. Andor has an iconic episode 8.
Episode 8 of Star Wars somethingof the sequel trilogy, am I?
Oh, you were saying Andor hadn'tI just grabbed your hand for
support? I thought you were saying Andor

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had a really good episode 8, Thesame way that Twin Peaks The
Return. Has a really good episode 8.
I was like wait like. Yeah, there's this spin off of.
Andor on Andor episode 8 and your episode. 8 does actually go
into the creation of evil. It's like really intense, but I,
I, I was so burned by Disney's Star Wars and like I what I
watched Mandalorian. I watched the sequel.

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I like Riser Skywalker hitting right back and forth between I
guess that and like season 2 of Mando.
Like it broke me. Like in a way that I don't like
Star Wars anymore. I have.
Skywalker like killed my high. I don't like about Star Wars.
I don't like it. It means nothing to me now in
such a, in such a confusing way,'cause I was so obsessed with

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Star Wars for so long. Jeez.
Like generally I, I, I I don't like Star Wars anymore.
Not even the OGI. Have no desire to watch them
maybe, like, ever again. Are you are you joking?
Look, do me wrong, I will probably watch Star Wars again
at some point. I was going to watch.
Personal trilogy and I'll fall back in love with it again but

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right now it's like a it's my ex-girlfriend.
Like there is there's no love there.
There's there's no love. But so that's why I think the
MCU movies I I still read comic books.
I always have a soft spot for them.
So you and I saw the Cat 4 was terrible.
We had fun in the theater, you and I singing together.
I missed a bunch of the recent ones that I've not watched.

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All the shows that I didn't watch.
Iron Heart I didn't. But we were there was a time
where we were trying to watch the shows.
Oh yeah, and then and then COVIDstops.
And then suddenly it's. Like God, I do have a theory
that of Disney. Disney.
Started the coronavirus. Disney started COVID for us to
get to watch to get a jump on division and I also think that

(10:30):
Jeremy Renner died in that snow plow accident and Disney cloned.
All of Paul is dead. Yeah, yeah.
Renner is dead. Yeah, this is late night shelf
warmer. So we're getting into conspiracy
because? No, I'm actually glad you
brought this up because we heardthe story about what happened to
him. He told on the news.
That's not the same man who was crushed at us.

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That's just he was. Literally plowed.
That's Jeremy Renner #2. And he hasn't been as good
since. That's that's Renner 17.
Renner 17, We figured it out. There we go.
Yeah, I mean, Bright Byrne. Bright Byrne, the movie we're
talking about today, it is kind of like this revisionist

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superhero movie. Not to say that this is like The
Unforgiven of superhero movies, but it's like AI found it
actually very refreshing. Oh, absolutely.
Because it's not a superhero movie, it's a horror movie.
It is very hard and it's horrifying.
Yeah, it's, it's scary. But especially after watching

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like three seasons of The Boys, which kind of strikes similar
itches. Because it's not.
Because it's not trying to be like a satirical.
Yeah, that's very focused on like what's happening in our
world, Yeah, where this was justlike fucked up 'cause the kind
of playing in the same playing in the Superman myth, it's

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really treating like not on not dissimilar to The Lone Ranger or
John Carter. Like it's taking this hero that
we know and kind of just twisting it just enough, really.
Yeah, 'cause the thing I said toyou over text today was this is,
this is the Superman story. But for the generation that had
like, like school shooting drills, which I generally

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believe that like there is a creepiness to this kid that is
echoed like in like the Columbine kids.
And and not to be like and not to sound I was trying to bully
anybody, but they were kids in high school who had school
shooter vibes and that's not like me putting them down.
Yeah, that's a phrase that we have in our vernacular.

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That was like a that's a genuinefear some people had.
Yeah. Like we had the drills every
every couple weeks or whatever. So that was something that was
on our mind. So when the kid was creepy and
like wear the backpack and the hoodie, like in a weird way,
we're like, oh, is this kid going to, is it going to shoot
me to death? And this kid in in Brightburn
has that he he gives me that same sinking feeling in my gut.

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Doing a lockdown or doing a lockdown drill does too.
You have Peter Parker, you have Clark Kent, and in Brightburn
you have Brandon Breyer. Yeah, another kind of
alliteration. Same sounding name.
It's like Andrew Alexander. Wait, holy shit.

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But he is kind of spooky in this.
And he's this young boy. It's the same.
It's the Superman story, you know, he's from space.
He develops these powers, only he's using them with dark
intentions. It has the same kind of motifs
of the Superman origin, the childless couple on the farm.

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And it kind of throughout the film there's like similar color
palette as Superman. Like he has like a red Cape.
He has like blue shirts, like he's playing with like the
primary colors. But it gets really kind of
scary. Jackson Jackson Dunn plays the
kid. He's good.
He is good. I mean a lot.

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He's holding a lot of the movie,obviously.
Yeah, and there's also like kindof like a neurodivergent, I
would say reading on him too, like even with like his
headphones and like, I never thought about that.
The fact like somebody like Superman would be hearing all
these sounds at once, would be like would be hyper aware of of

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everything. And there is kind of a
neurodivergent kind of take on this kid who's like an outcast,
doesn't really know how to fit in quite quite well.
He's like hypersensitive to a lot of things.
And he has like this gift or ability or which I know that's
often times like that kind of times like you don't like to
take in a movie. It's like, oh, he's oh, you
know, directionally special, butit's interesting.
Then the flip that and kind of pull that into like also like

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the violence of America. I think about Superman comes in
from the 70s. I'm talking on top of the modern
movie version of Superman. You kind of think like 70s like
a daughter films. Kind of taking the country out
of the Watergate, Vietnam era, yeah.
And having like, some hope, which takes you into the 80s,
which is basically like propaganda movies in the 80s,

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Yeah. But you see this.
Similarly reflective. And you see the I see this from
2019, right before COVID. It's in the first Trump
administration. It's dark, Trump won, it's
violent. It's like sad, sadistic.
So it's like not it's like you. It's like, oh, OK.
Like you see steer man, like Lance in Smallville in the 70s.

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Like, you know, like you like, you know, like you know, it's
economic, it's hopeful, it's a boom.
Like like he, he's happy. It's green here.
It's like, this is like after like 3 financial crashes.
This is like a depressed a dark time for this kid to become a
hero if he doesn't become a hero.
And the movie itself, bright burn, maybe because it is so

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dark. There's a reason it's on the
shelf warming up. It's like it comes out in this
era that is so heavily dominatedby the DC, the big DC films, the
big Marvel movies, it kind of gets lost in the shuffle.
And I think it we both kind of feel the same where it's like,
it's kind of a shame, Like this movie's cool.

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Because this also came out the same year as Avengers End Game,
and I think there was the culmination of.
Everything. Yeah, I think there also was
kind of like a thought for superhero movies at this time
that they shouldn't be like, they shouldn't be in the vein of
Zack Snyder, and they shouldn't be, like, super long and dark
and gritty and violent. We want all of our heroes to be

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happy and making quips, and thatwas not the tone that was set.
So we'll just come out for like,whoa, We don't want to see our
superhero be mean and be violentand be a killer.
Right. It was maybe a bit too much, but
your kids are going to love it. Second, Back to the Future
reference. Sam, real quick, do you know

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when this movie came out? I know it came out in 2019.
I don't know when or when else came out.
May 24th, 2019, which I believe was the same month.
Memorial Day, Yeah, which was the same month as End Game.
I believe yes. May 19.
So this open against 2 movies intheaters that I saw.
Of both of them, I think one is good, one is fine, but one's

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like 1 is fine in such an odd way.
You know what they are and you want to hint.
There's two yeah, in addition toBright Brain.
Yeah, 1's I'll be hands with. That one's a Disney live action
remake, and one is, AI would say, the most beloved comedy,

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one of the most beloved comediesin the last like 10 years.
Whoa, yeah. Lion King for the Disney?
Nope. When did Lion King come out?
That that was also 2019, but that was summer.
Lion King and this movie came out the same year, same summer.
Yeah. Oh, she did.
Aladdin. Yep, she Aladdin, which made.

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A billion fucking dollars or whatever.
And we don't say it's fine because I think Wilson is good
as a genie. And I think the leads goes
Aladdin Menema suit, I believe his name is.
OK Did you? If that's wrong, they got that.
Naomi Scott. Yes.
As. Jasmine And I think it's like

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competent and fine because it's a Guy Ritchie movie, so it's.
Like Guy Ritchie made Aladdin. Guy Ritchie directed Aladdin.
Is Aladdin a shelf warmer? I would just didn't revisit it
but wait but he was in it and really good now seeing PED rods
in that. Oh from SNL?
Yeah, he's good. Cool.
And the other one is a comedy. The biggest comedy in the last

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10 years. Made a lot of money, it's very
well liked. Shit.
But I think now it kind of has like a a kind of heir to it,
like, oh, was that really that good?
Oh, oh oh, book smart. Yes, yeah.
Which is probably not as funny as we remember.
No, but there's an actor who's in Book Smart that's in Superman

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that is really fucking funny in both those movies.
Skylar Gazando. Oh yes, he's.
Great. He's really funny.
I mean, he's. Hilarious.
I just rewatched the licorice pizza.
Oh he's so good. He's.
So good at playing like charmingand I'm like, I guess he he's so
good at like and not saying he'sugly in in in the capacity, but

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he is so good at convincing you that he's the sexiest man alive,
which is like a really interesting kind of like trick
he has. Yeah.
You're like, oh, look, I yeah, like, totally.
Yeah, like he's hot. I believe you.
He's. Just so good in licorice pizza.
When he's on the plane and he walks up to them and he's like,
oh, how is it? How is it up here or how is it

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back here? He's like, oh, oh, they have
steak back here. OK, good, good.
He's like, just like such a douchebag.
He's really funny too, like during the scene where she
brings him home for dinner. Yes.
And he won't say grace, right? He's like, I'm actually
agnostic. But the film opens, we meet our

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Mon, Pennsylvania Kent equivalents with Roy from the
Office. Yeah.
Who's David Denman? That's his name.
He's good, he's in a lot of things.
Never seen him in something. Like that, He's a that guy.
Yeah. And Elizabeth Banks.
Who's really good in this? I didn't even know she was in
the movie. It starts.
I'm like, is that Elizabeth Banks?

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She's in the whole movie. She's in Slither, you know that?
I did read that. So her and Gun are old friends.
Yeah, And they're the briars. And they're like totally trying
to bang in this first scene. And it's like a slow pan on all
these like pregnancy books and fertility books.

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They're in their pump and dump period as a couple.
See, when you say like in that context, yeah, you really.
Sound kind of gross. Yeah, like that sound?
Kind of gross, yeah. But then all the sudden like the
house shakes and the lights flicker and then we get this
cool like 2006 like archival opening sequence.

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Oh yeah. Which I think was.
It's a little cheesy, but it's done well.
I love about YouTube, but that first shot of like them seen the
spacecraft land and it's like the red kind of glow out on the
field. Like it kind of gave me chills a
little bit. Do we see that in the very
beginning or is that only later?No, you see it from a distance

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to beginning because it goes because it goes to the lands and
the house goes dark and then they look out the window.
It is honestly the movie I'm I feel bad I watched it in the
morning. I watched the morning tale.
I wish I had watched it at night.
Yeah, yeah, I wish I watched it.Alone at night, be a little and

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be a little scared. But it was with my grandma and
my twin. Because it, well, because it is
a lot of house horror. Yeah, yeah.
It's a guy in a house. But then we get this like
archival opening, which kind of brings me back to Superman.
Yeah, which is, which is the same thing.
It does not do the same thing. Well, no, I mean, but it's.

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It has that 2000s like 90 archival thing, but in Superman
it's fucking ridiculous. He's swiveling on a bed and he's
smiling and he's like. It's a great idea, it's just
executed strangely. And it's like just a collage of
all his memories and he's, well,show me my parents.
Here's what I'll say. Let's get into fucking Superman

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2025. I will say that's really quick
too for Superman. Is it?
I'm adopted and I never thought about that in terms of relations
like the Clark tent. But my mother saw Superman over
the weekend and she cried at theend.
She cried when when this moment of this guy who rejects whatever

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is his, whatever is his blood, but he sees his real parents and
those are his real parents. There's nothing else.
And my mom actually cried. So shout to my mother.
She she sent me a very nice textabout it.
And then I was like, I didn't even think about.
That that's like when you text acomic book, like a real comic

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book person and you're like, Oh my God, like, did you see
Superman? Like really makes you think
about like Ukraine and Gaza and the immigration crisis we're
having in our country right now.And they're like, what?
He was just wearing a Cape. He was flying around.
What are you What are you talking about?
What do you mean? Metamorpho.
Yeah. He's a head with squiggly lines.

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What are you talking? About Hey, Kerrigan, have you
seen Barry? I saw Barry.
Barry was good. It's like what?
But I guess I feel bad now. But that is a It's a sweet
moment. No, yeah, yeah, I agree.
My my stepfather said said my mom's new favorite movie 'cause
he has an adopted child and alsoa dog in it.

(24:27):
What do you think of crypto DeusEx crypto?
Maybe a little too much crypto, but I really love the Simon
Superman, which also kind of ties into bright burn when
Superman shows about Alexis office and he he kicks the door
down and where's the dog Luther and Michael Ian Blacks in this

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movie, which I really like. He's good.
Yeah, as like the Tucker Carlson, Yeah, guy.
And Luther is just like a stupiddog in a little cave right over.
Like it's so it's what? Did you say?
Yeah, and I like, I like seeing that rage in Superman.
He has rage. Luther has rage.
They're both extremely emotionaland upset.

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Yeah, and they both cry in the film.
Yeah, I do like seeing this as adouble feature.
Obviously there's the obviously,obviously you know, it is the
direct parallel, but this is a Superman like take off as you
said, anything actual Superman movie.
And produced by James Gunn, by his family, it's.
Like, there are a lot of parallels, but it's interesting
to see the two sides of this because I think, I think this is

(25:35):
a movie that would've been made fun of more like 10 years ago.
Like, this came out 10 years agoand it was like, so earnest and
like, 'cause I don't think earnesty always works in the
movie. Like Superman came out.
Yes not right no no I think Superman came out 10 years ago.
People like would be like this movie.
So this movie is so stupid and then like, and I really I I like

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earnest. I am a very earnest person.
I just say whatever I feel, which not definitely mean
earnesty, but I but I mean like that I.
Take the beginning of the show for example.
Yeah, release the Epstein files.I But I just like to say what I
mean. And I like to tell people how
much I love them and how much I care about them.
And that is something that I just like, believe in and even

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even doesn't always work. I prefer movies like that, just
where they're hard in their chest.
I don't want shit that's cynical, but that's like it.
It's so boring to me to be cynical at this point.
And this movie is not cynical either.
A Breitburn So the so the so letme say Breitburn cynical.
I think Breitburn is nihilistic,which is different than cynical.
Correct, there is a difference. What are your thoughts here man?

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I feel like you didn't really say anything.
I like it less the more I think about it.
But in the theater in IMAX, I was like, this is good.
But there wasn't like when I walked away from it, it wasn't
like there was a scene where I was like, whoa, that scene like

(27:03):
you were you were mentioning thecinematography before I saw it.
And I was like, yeah, it does look looks like TV, which.
Is not like the visual, it's more the visual effects scenes I
think. Yeah, the visual of course, but
that's a lot of the. Scenes.
Yeah, yeah, it's a little too much of that the.
CGI, the portals and so, so I, I, it's one of those things

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where it's like, I get it. I get why people are like, it's
fun, it's earnest. It's just like not, it doesn't
really excite me. No sure if I if I.
Watched this movie when I was like 910.
I would have been like fuck likeman.
And I'm not saying they. Call me a baby or.

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Kids, I'm just saying, like personally, in my current
moment, I'm not looking to this movie and being like, oh wow,
like I was more inspired and excited by Brightburn.
Sure. I was like, sure.
Like maybe because it is like lower budget and I'm like, oh,
like we could do something like Brightburn.
Like if we because it's like 6 characters, like 4 locations.

(28:12):
Superman's like they're incorporating all these
characters. Like it definitely is more
similar to like a comic book. Sure.
Which I don't have as much relation to.
And this is also something I wasthinking about when I watched
Superman. I went home and I rewatched a
couple up to the Justice League Unlimited.
Great. And I started thinking about the

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Justice League, the stories or comic book events that I would
want to write. So I was inspired.
Not in the film sense. Like, I mean, like Gun's a good
writer. I think.
I don't think he's, I don't think he's the best director.
I I think he can hit this moment.
But visually, he struggles. Sometimes I also think his three
Guardians movies and the SuicideSquad are all here above.

(28:56):
Oh, absolutely. I think, I actually think
suicide looks really good, Yeah.Yeah, yeah.
And we love Guardians, too. Which like looks insane.
Like in a good way. It's like.
A 70s movie? Yeah, it's.
Cool, but I was inspired by Superman to write comics I was
inspired to by Superman to feel like I love to a Justice League
show again. I think that.

(29:17):
But not not in a film sense thatI inspired by that.
Yeah, as a movie, I'm just like,OK.
Yeah, and I and they're understand.
And they use the Williams score and I'm just like, what the fuck
are you doing? I don't like that 'cause I like
'cause I think it. I think actually it is a good
score and it doesn't need the Williams score.
But I also wish it did more of the James Gunn stuff It does

(29:38):
that one long take to the song when Lois Lane's in the bubble.
Oh yeah, with, with, with Mr. Terrific.
Yeah, which is like classic gun.Yeah and I'm.
I think that was one hand. I'm like, I don't want to have
that all over the place because.We've seen that was him showing
restraint, I think. Maybe, but once you take away
his tricks, it's like what are you left with with gun?

(30:02):
Which I think that's when his writing comes in.
Like, I think I like Lois Lane, like when she interviewed.
Superman's a great example of gun writing.
Yeah, I think like, all the Justice Gang stuff is really
good. I think the Luther speech at the
end and Superman speech are verygood examples of gun writing.
Yeah, I left all the characterizations and almost

(30:25):
every performance I was like, this is good.
But like, it's just they're put in the story that I'm just like,
yeah, and. And that's an interesting
question, too. It's like, I like stuff that
feels like the Justice League Unlimited thing that I was
talking about. Like I like something that feels
like an episode of that. Like I've watched the one where

(30:45):
a Flash slaps brains with Lex Luthor.
Yes, that's a great one. It's.
A great one. It's a great episode.
I like stuff like that. I would love to go back and just
rewatch a few of those episodes.It's fun.
I I was saying after I saw Superman, but does that
necessarily Does making something silly and zany in like
a comic book translate to film 'cause I don't think it's what

(31:08):
Marvel? 'S doing is like.
Marvel's. Feeling it's working?
Yeah. Although it didn't make as much
money as it could have. No, but it but I think it will
end up making, I think it'll do the same number as Guardians
too. I think it'll be like 800 to 850
probably, but it's not cracking a billion.
It's terrible. Well, I also think we're just

(31:28):
also, I think we're also. Just no.
It's not the movie's fault. It's.
Just that's the time where things make a billion dollars.
I saw the LILO and Stitches madea billion, and that's probably
going to be what? Yeah, That's the only movie of
2025 that has made $1 billion. I mean, it'd be it'd be nice if
sinners made a billion. No, it made.
It made like 400 million sinners.

(31:50):
Just that's it. Yeah.
But it also cost like 50 million, well less than that.
So it made it made $300 million in profit.
Do you think the PTA movie is going to make a billion dollars?
No, but the new trailer was great.
The new trailer was great. Better.
Trailer. I think the only other movie
that's going to cross a billion this year is Avatar, Fire and

(32:12):
Ash. That comes out this year.
Yeah, it comes out December. So Brightburn.
So Brightburn. I mean the movie made 33 million
against the 6 to 12 million budget.
So it made money. This it's going to make a ton of
money. Came out six years ago.
I will say they they do use their budget well.

(32:33):
Yes. They probably saved a lot on VFX
by being in like in three locations for like most of the
movie. And the effects that need to be
practical, are they look good? Yeah.
Some of it looks a little jank with the digital, but overall,
really freaking good. And I was kind of, I didn't, I

(32:56):
have no memory of this movie really coming out.
I remember the name. I remember it being like, oh,
kind of like a Superman thing. I knew about it more, I think,
because James Gunn was on his way to Comic Con to talk about
this movie when he got fired from Disney.
There's also that whole read on Superman.

(33:17):
Oh, yeah, you mean you mean a nice guy who gets cancelled by
the world and his his friend Nathan Fillion, he come and kind
of defends him, Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't make it to the
Hall H or wherever. No, because then he leaves
because he's like, I need to figure out like what's happening

(33:38):
and it all goes a shit from there.
So I I do wonder if he like, like if that hadn't happened,
this movie would have done better.
Like if he was more like the face behind it, like, oh, that's
from the director of Guardians of the Galaxy.
Like would that have gotten? Well, it was funny because I
went back and I rewatched the trailer and the trailer like

(34:00):
plays it very straight in the beginning.
It's like it looks like a Superman movie and it kind of
has like the Nolan text in between.
It's like this like this this summer.
Like it has the whole Kansas, the shots from the movie, but it
looks like Man of Steel. And then it like switches.

(34:20):
And when it switches and when you're watching the movie, it's
just like, Oh my God, like this is a really freaking cool.
Yeah, and I like how I do reallyenjoy how from the start you
feel the horror. You feel like something's off

(34:40):
with this kid. Like how he plays hide and seek
with his mom and his goal is to scare her.
Spooky. Yeah, it's like I was watching
like, oh, this is a trail. Like a horror movie.
Like this can be a jump scare. And I was like, oh, that's kind
of interesting that they're not even trying to do like the from
early on, like, oh, he's like, he's a sweet kid.
And I thought originally. There's something off.

(35:02):
And I thought originally that itwas he turned evil from the
ship, which I don't think is true.
I think he was just going through.
Puberty. He's born evil, I think, Yeah,
'cause then you see him and he has like his nudie mags under
that. It's just like just pictures of
guts. Spooky, spooky, spooky, spooky.
So he's like 1012. I don't know.

(35:22):
And probably 12 and the parents,you know, the parents are just
like dealing. It's it's really just a story
about being a parent and dealingwith your kid as they grow and
kind of discover who they are. And they find like, you know,
these swimsuit magazines under his bed.

(35:45):
And you're kind of like, Oh my, that's kind of funny.
But then like, it's like swimsuit model, swimsuit model
diagram of the human body. Then it's like actual images of
guts and body parts and it's just like, what the fuck?
And it's honestly never even really explained.
No, after that, Yeah, it's just like, what a weird.

(36:06):
Kid, Yeah. Really weird.
How does it start? Well, first they they find the
weird pictures under the bed, then he goes out hunting with
his dad. Yeah, 'cause his dad wants to
give him like a sex talk becauseof the pictures.
He's like it's. OK, you know, for you to feel
that way. For you to act.
On those urges. Acting urges to play with your
penis. He's like right now.

(36:32):
Yeah, that was weird. Like there's so many weird movie
to watch with my grandma, you can't lie.
Well, it it, but I do like that,like I said, like earlier,
there's like the we are in the era of violence and porn and
there's like he he's he's the worst part of American culture.
That's true. It's interesting like to see an
alien who would grow up in like the 80s and like even if even if

(36:56):
even the waking times were bad, he's not seen that in Kansas.
Like he's seeing like a depression.
So it's like he's getting all the worst parts of American life
and culture and the hate that grows in the 20 tens even more
outwardly. He's he's, he's getting all of
that. It's.
Really. So he he.
Didn't know what to make of this.
Yeah. And then somewhere around there,

(37:17):
he's like his dad's like, all right, I'm going to leave you
like, go ahead and mow the lawn or whatever.
Yeah. And he like, he's like trying to
jump start the lawn mower. He like, rips the cord.
He's like pulling it. It's like not working.

(37:39):
He like fucking chucks the lawn mower half a mile away.
And then puts his hand into the blade.
And the blade's like, and he's like, he's just, he's
invincible. And the blade cracks.
Yeah, he wasn't doing that for fun.
Like he knew that already, I think.
Yeah, 'cause they say he's neverbeen cut.
The night before he, I guess he was like sleepwalking and he was

(38:02):
like speaking some weird tongue and he was like banging on the
barn because hidden inside the barn is like the spaceship that
he came in and he has no idea where he came from until later.
He was just told he was a Doppler.
Yeah. And his mom's like talking to
the dad and she's like, he was out in the barn last night and

(38:22):
he's like, did you? Did he find it?
And she's like, no, no, I didn'tfind it but it's weird.
And she like defends him the whole movie, which basically
leads to her demise. Yeah, which also then like
reminds me like I know I'm like,I'm like I'm getting stuck in
like the school shooting aspect there has made the parents who
were like he had no signs of this.
Like we just gave him his first gun.

(38:43):
But like he was a sweet kid. I promise.
Like there's like a defense of the, there's an offense of the
antagonist that is like always kind of interesting there.
Like nobody can like because like she knows he's an alien,
but she still cannot see past that.
Like, because like, he's her baby.
And it is kind of cool when you think about it like that.

(39:06):
It it's also cool to set it on afarm too.
It makes you think of like TexasChainsaw a little bit.
And the horror there is something that is like the and
especially because the city boys, there's something
inherently kind of like scary about a farm.
Yeah, it's quiet. It's dark.
That's it. Yeah, but after, after he talks
to his dad about about his urges, he goes to the girl's

(39:28):
room and like, scares the shit out of her and like a stalks.
Her. He's like float, he can fly.
He's basically he's Superman. He's Superman.
He's like floating outside the window and the girl like gets so
freaked the fuck out. Her computer starts playing some
like old, I don't think it's Elvis, but it's like an Elvis
type song. It's like a romance song.

(39:49):
And she slams down the laptop and then she walks away and it
pulled the like laptop opens up again and plays the song.
She slams it down again. She looks out the window.
The curtains are like blowing and she just looks so terrified.
And she you really like at that,especially because the scene
that comes before is the dad like act on it, act on your

(40:11):
urges. Like I was.
I was like, where the fuck is this movie going?
And she like freaks out and the mom comes in and she's like,
there was. There was someone outside my
window, like Brandon Breyer was outside my window, like she says
his name. Yeah.
And at that point, I was like, this kid's fucked.

(40:32):
Yeah, and then next scene they're on the track in school
and then with the coaches playedby the guy who played the Otis
in Superman. Is that true?
Yeah. Because I was like, well, I
watched it. I was watching.
I was like, am I just like goingcrazy right now?
Because I just watched Superman.Yeah, yeah, that was him.

(40:54):
And he gets shoved down by the girl because she's afraid of
him. And then she puts her hand out.
She's. Like stumbles back.
And he just grabs her hand and just squeezes so hard that it,
like, gets like, crushes it. Crushes it, Yeah.
And they show it, and that's a good effect, yeah.
Gross and scary and then the mom's like rightfully like your

(41:15):
kid is a psycho. Yeah.
And but she kind of goes too farthough, so it's like.
Yeah, she's like, really upset. Yeah, so you're calling him out
then like you're attacking tags adopted.
It's like, it's like, it's like,it's like, lady, give me a
bitch, but like you're right, but because you're being a
bitch. Believe me, a little nicer to
the kid. So then.

(41:36):
He's like his inbred family wherever he's from.
Yeah, we get to the scene, whichto me, it kind of hooked me
where I was like, OK, this movieis going to be really good.
And I was. I kept waiting for like the
movie to just drop because thesemovies always get to a point
where it's like, Oh my God, thisis this is jump the shark.
Like, sure. I thought for sure it would just
blow it at the end. But I think, oh, it's pretty

(41:58):
much consistently great. Yeah.
Through the through to the end. And there's this scene where we
find out that the girl's mom, whose hand was crushed by
Brandon, she works at this diner.
Yeah. And.
Oh, I don't think it's for his birthday.

(42:18):
He's given a gun, but his dad feels he's too young and at this
diner and he freaks out and slams the table and the whole
building shakes. Yeah, he like, freaks out on his
dad. His dad is like keyed in from
the beginning, like. Something's wrong.
Like this kid is, he looks like us, but this kid is an alien.

(42:39):
Like, he came in a little ship. Yeah.
And he's freaking me the fuck out right now.
And the mom's like, no, he's ourbaby.
And it's sad. And I think Elizabeth Banks does
give it some legitimacy. I forgot she was this good, like
like, well, what has she done inthe last 10 years?

(43:00):
My only really like relationshipwith her is like fucking pitch
perfect. I'm trying to think what else
Modern Family. She's a recurring character on
that. Is she in 40 year old version
she's in? She's in one of the 2000
comedies that I'm blanking on. We can find out too.

(43:21):
I feel like she's also in like big movies that we're not
thinking. Oh, she's she's in the Spider
Man trilogy. Oh yeah, unrecognizable.
Yeah, 'cause that she's the brown hair she's in.
Well, how American summer. Well, that's actually best,
right What? I know her.
Oh, and Hunger Games. Duh, duh.

(43:42):
We're so. Dumb.
She's in role models and Zach and Miri make a porno.
So she was in that era too, in well, how American Summer, which
she's really which she's really,really, really the funny What
American Summer. And the Internet is telling me
she's in the future show former The Happy Time Murders.
Oh, I'd love to cover that. She's made a bunch of shelf

(44:03):
formers, too. Shelf former She Made nominee.
Well, she's in Power Rangers, which is the shelf former.
She's in movie 43, shelf former,Love and Mercy shelf former, so
she's in a bunch. And she directed Charlie's

(44:24):
Angels, which is probably shelf former too.
Yes, she does. Excuse me?
She just had like this whole directing career, which is kind
of cool. It's she's made 3 movies and
none of them have been good. Is that fair to say?
Pitch Perfect 2. Yeah.
Cocaine Bear and Charlie's Angels.
Yeah, Cocaine Bear, which had this little moment that COVID,

(44:46):
pre COVID, what was that? During COVID right around that
era. Yeah.
But she's great. I mean, I mean, obviously this
cast is very, very good. It's also Matt Jones, Badger,
Badger from Breaking Bad and like Meredith Hagger, who was in
Search Party. She's married to Wyatt Russell

(45:08):
actually. But she, she pops up, she's like
in Palm Springs, like she pops up in a lot of things.
And she's like just really, really good always.
He's a tight cast and the lady who plays the mom of the girl
whose hand gets crushed is good.Yeah and there's there's like
that random sheriff's deputies in like 3 scenes.
She gets a big moment at the end.

(45:28):
I was like, I was like, wow. Like a lot of like really good.
Just a 1 scene performers. Yeah, but the first kind of
like, oh, shit scene happens in this diner where basically
Brandon is pissed off at the mom.
He's just upset. And that's how he, like, lashes
out in this movie. And she's alone in the diner.

(45:52):
She's closing. And how does that start?
There's like he's like, does these sketches in his notebook.
And it's like. 2B's back-to-backand it's like this weird symbol.
All right dumbass, don't make ityour first and last initial.
Right Burn. Also right Burn is like the
town. Yeah, it's a town and his name
is and that's his heebie. Yeah.

(46:13):
But basically the light starts flickering and she tilts her
head up at these fluorescent tubes and the tubes smash and
shatter. Because he has like telepathy or
something. Yeah.
And one glass Shard gets in her fucking eye and she pulls it.

(46:33):
Oh, it's so gruesome. And I was.
Like a final destination moment.I was like, this is gnarly.
Like, this is like early gun. Yeah, you know, and it's just
like bleeds so much. They show it.
They have, you know, good sound design.
Like it's like so gross. And she pulls it out and like,

(46:53):
it's like one line of blood justlike shoots out of her.
Eye Oh, it's so nasty. And then they go, it's kind of
hokey, but you kind of go with it because the movie's fun.
Half the screen is bloody and you kind of see him floating
around in like this red hood andred cave and he's just like, so
fucking creepy. You know what?

(47:13):
You know what, it's a cool shot.Sure, it's hokey, but I
appreciate that actually actually, you know, trying for
something cool. And you're like, oh God.
And it doesn't scary. It makes it look scarier.
And then she goes into the freezer and she locks the door
vision and then the heat vision like splits the door open.
It's just a really good scene. Yeah, and I think that's just

(47:36):
kind of the perfect example of like taking something we've seen
now and at this point it was what, 6 Superman movies and just
reinventing it. It's not hard to imagine.
But the feeling of feeling so powerless, which I guess is what
makes it so scary because you think about like you're like
Freddy Krueger or Jason. That's like most times they lose

(48:00):
and there's kind of like a OK, OK, I'll just do a man.
But Superman, if he it's kind ofBatman argument in BBS, like
what happens if he snaps? We are all dead.
Yeah, I kind of I kind of thought with a cop show up, I'm
like, oh, nobody's I was like, oh, like nobody's guy was alive.
He he can just kill any single thing he wants to.

(48:22):
Well, earlier, almighty. Earlier in the film, he has like
this motto that he chants in this alien language and it's
like it says like at first it's like it's all gibberish.
And then it's like, take the girl, take the girl.
Yeah. And I'm like, girl, He's saying
girl. And he's like, take the world.
Yeah, take the world. Which is also which is also

(48:47):
looked as time Superman 2 in 2025.
Spoiler warning. Yeah, I realized he never said
that, but it's like AI. We'll put that in a.
Brand new movie The. Opening.
Yeah, here's a clean warning. This episode contains spoilers
for 2019's Brightburn and 2025'sSuperman.

(49:09):
Do you like that? Yeah, but you.
But you see the idea that what if?
What if Superman was not sent here for noble intentions, but
he chose to be good, which is like the opposite of this in
Brightburn. He wasn't for bad intent and he
chose to be bad. Yeah, it's awesome.
And it kind of just keeps escalating.

(49:31):
Yeah, once the train leaves the station, there's no, no
stopping. He's embraces like this evilness
inside of him. And once again, a kid, I don't
know his name. Brandon.
No. Well, yeah, Brandon.
Oh, Jackson Dunn. Jackson Dunn really, really good
and playing that creepiness likeonce reminds me of like Paul

(49:52):
Danis performance and prisoners a little bit.
Kind of aloof. But like you said, we meet his
aunt and uncle at the birthday dinner.
The aunt is also like the schoolcounsellor.
And there's this whole thing where she's like, I have to talk
to the sheriff tomorrow, like, because you broke this girl's
hand, and I have to tell him howyou're doing mentally.

(50:16):
And he's like, oh, OK. So then later that night he
shows up at the house and you know, he's creeping outside.
She kind of freaks out. She goes to the door and it's
him and she's like Brandon, whatthe fuck?
Is he like this is strange. He's like, you really shouldn't

(50:38):
talk to the sheriff tomorrow. I also like that he as soon as
he realizes how powerful he is, he loses all sense of humanity.
There's no empathy in him anymore.
So when he's like when he has totalk to her through the end of
the therapy appointment, he can't even like fake empathy.

(50:59):
But there is like this weird like alter ego thing where when
he's with his parents he's trying.
Part of me read it as him at genuinely kind of like having
this split personality thing. Yeah, he's, he's genuinely
shocked when later in the movie,his dad tries to kill him.
Like he like, like, like it was like he never considered hurting
his parents like that. Really.

(51:19):
Because even because even because even when he because at
one point he pushes his dad and he fights him like kind of like
2 various points he does. He's not.
He's not upset with his dad because his dad's like, because
his dad's an aunt to him. Yeah, his dad is no threat, but
he kind of creeps around his aunt's place.
She gets scared. She's like, go home, like get

(51:41):
away. Yeah, yeah, she does a really
good job of being like, this is weird, like.
And as that happens, her husbandcomes home from the bar drunk.
And like sees him in the closet,which is like, scary.
Yeah, and he's like, what the helike he's a little bit more
intense. He's like, what the fuck?
Like I'm taking you home now, Brandon.

(52:02):
Like he's like, please don't tell my parents.
Please don't tell my parents. And he's like, that's the least
of your worries, like me tellingyour parents.
Oh. You probably shouldn't have done
that. You probably shouldn't have said
that. And he fucking kills him in the
most brutal, awesome way. Yeah.
He's. Like he's driving in his pickup

(52:23):
truck and he does. He's like, he like chucks him
against the garage. I forget if he pushes him or if
he uses his mind. But he shows him a little bit of
force. He like the badger from Breaking
Bad, like is really shook and hedrives away leaving his wife
inside which I thought was weird.
Yeah, I was strange too. He's driving down this country
Rd. again in the rural parts of the country which scare us and

(52:47):
he like flips the truck up and it slams it down and you're just
like. Yeah.
Holy shit. But we'll.
Feature too a Zoolander. And yeah, and this is the best
fucking part when he walks up tohim in the truck.
His jaw's hanging off CGI. Oh, my God.

(53:09):
And he's just, like, holding hisjaw, like spitting up blood.
Yeah. Looking at his nephew who's so
insane. Yeah.
Like he literally like one day ago, like he was giving a gun
too. But I think that is what I'm
talking about the school shooting, right?
Yeah, you're right. One day ago he trusted him
holding a gun and now he's and his act of violence.

(53:30):
And he takes off his mask or some other scene he.
Just this is everything. Scary, scary.
And then from there, it just kind of keeps going.
You know, his dad freaks out. His dad finds the shirt that has
the other has his uncle's blood on it because he knows he knows
he had something to do because he's calling a lie.

(53:52):
The aunt tells them that he was there with the house and Dad's
like, in his face. He's like, he was my friend.
Yeah, the dad's kind of like kind of wakes up fully.
He's like this kid needs to be taken care of.
So then the next day, he kind oftakes someone, like a hunting
trip, and that's where he almostshoots his son, where he's kind

(54:13):
of like, oh, like, what's that over there?
Like, has the rifle pointed at the kid and pulls the trigger.
But obviously he's like a littleSuperman.
So the bullet, like, ricochets off his head and he kind of just
looks confused, the kid. And he kind of like, turns his
head and he's like, what? Like, did you seriously?

(54:34):
Did you just do that? Yeah, and the dad like fumbles
and tries to shoot him again anddad gets killed.
Dad gets killed and then when this happened I was like, OK,
so. This movie is a beautiful 90
minutes. Without credits, it's 85.
Yeah. Love it.
Yeah, and I was like, OK, so dadgot killed, Mom will be fine

(54:58):
then. Yes, they're not going to pull
that punch the. Truly surprising, unexpected
ending, yeah. Yeah, you think that, You think
that she's going to kill him 'cause he he can only get hurt
from the ship. Yeah, earlier it's set up 'cause
he's like levitating above his ship in the barn and something
breaks his trance and he falls and he cuts his hand on the ship

(55:21):
that he came in. Yeah.
And you think that OK, 'cause inthe movie they're kind of barn
again, like how it start and youthink she's going to get the he
recommend where she stabs on theback.
And there's her son there actually is like a groaning
worth moment where she's like she's she stands outside as the
the son's like trying to kill her.

(55:41):
And she's like, it cut him. It cut him like she says it out
loud. Yeah.
And she kind of runs to the barnafter falling out of the window.
And was that? That's odd.
That must be after the cops showup at the house and the cops.
Just get the cops. Destroyed.
There's two really gory stuff with the eyeball and the jaw.

(56:03):
Yeah. The cop, he just flies by and
there's like a it's a proof of blood like and like the sound
design, like the weight of him flying is really good.
So the two cops gets get picked off.
And it's just a mom and son, which I really like because he
once again is testing this. Like it's almost like it's just

(56:26):
like 1 is testing like a mother's love.
But like I really like the idea of like she's been denial this
whole time. She's fine woken up.
She sees her son for truly how he is.
And she's made the decision of he's my baby.
But can I kill him? And she does, or he tries to.
She has the Shard of the ship and she's about to stab him and

(56:49):
I guess he like catches it or whatever.
Yeah, like he stops her hand andthen he flies her up so she gets
all like hit in the face to leftin the roof because she goes to
the roof. So by the time that he grabs her
and brings her up to like this atmosphere, she looks fucked up.
She's beaten up like she's a little like, she felt like she's

(57:10):
all like, caught up and bloody. Yeah.
And then they float together there for a minute and she still
loves them even through all that, because even though she
knows what's happening, she still loves them.
And then he just drops her and it's just horrifying.
Shot she. Plummeting her.
Plummeting. And it cuts back to him in the
wide of him just floating there.And then there's an airplane in

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the distance coming towards him.And he just looks at it and at
first I'm like, is this going to, is this going to do some
damage to him? And then it's like cut to the
next morning, it looks like lost, like the plane, parts of
the plane are all over the farmhouse.
And then it the movie just like ends very quickly after.
That you know chips of Hawaiian the.

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And there's just like this awesome like string of like
newscast, like Rooker. Rooker shows up.
Awesome. I do.
It just seemed like they were trying to set up like an evil
version of Justice League. There's a Fishman, there's a
girl that attacks people with a rope.
Well, they kind of plant the seeds.
I found out 'cause they say something about like a girl with

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robotic arm. No.
Do they? Which is supposed to be the girl
whose hand gets broken. Oh really?
She becomes like this Cyborg. Oh, she goes to a villain.
Too. And apparently Rainn Wilson's
character from Super is referenced in that end bit.
How are they so it's? Super is not good is my take.
I I do not like super. I also, oh, this might be in

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your slate too, so I'll I'll hold off.
Yeah, so these are my my break burn slate recommendations,
which are these kind of super ish films Yeah so we've got
2000s M Night Shyamalan unbreakable, which I think bash
dressed as unbreakable for Halloween.

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I'll. Produce your bash.
And kind of like actually kind of predates the superhero era,
which is kind of cool. Yeah, absolutely.
What it's the It's the same yearas X-Men.
Yeah, 2000 Super, which we referenced, which kind of ties
into the James Gunn produced. He directed Super, produced by
Byrne, goes on to make Superman.Yeah, not many people get to

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helm a Superman film, which is pretty, no.
He's a select few. Yeah, and the last one I have
here is a film I really love, 2012 Chronicle, which is
definitely school shooter vibe, which uses found footage in a
cool way and also has fucked up Dane Dahan at the center of.

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It it it also more interesting, I think for it's more
interesting for Brightburn. I think that they chose to make
him 12 versus like 17. Right then it's like too much on
the nose, so. Sam, before we kind of give our
final thoughts in the movie and we give our determinations on it
should stay on the shelf or not.I wanted to do a little segment

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for you. OK, we're going back to our
roots. This one is a quiz but has an
introduction. This is their back, baby.
This. Is their back for the audience
at home and for Sam? I love to give quizzes.
OK, here's introduction. On July 28th, 2007, the USA show
Burn Notice had its premiere. This show featuring Jeffrey

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Donovan, Gabrielle Anwar and Bruce Campbell centers on
Michael Weston, a former spy wholoses his connections and is put
onto the Burn Notice list area on USA Channel for 111 episodes
and seven seasons. Burn Notice would go and become
a basic cable hit almost 11 years to the T.
In July of 2018, James Gunn was flying to San Diego Comic

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Conference. Today, in a panel for the film,
he helped produce and give some notes on Brayburn.
Earlier in the month, he'd publicly called out Roseanne
Barr for other for her racist remark against Valerie Janet.
Yeah. Quickly he was jumped on by alt
right Twitter and fired off Guardians of Galaxy Volume 3.

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Not unlike Roseanne was fired off her own show later.
Obviously he would be rehired and brought back to the MCU with
Guardians of Galaxy Volume 3. So James Gunn himself was placed
on a Burn Notice as well as his project Bright Burn which failed
to create much box off return and cultural relevancy.

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Another project that failed to create some cultural relevancy
in Max Landis ridden film about a fairy tale and a cop and an
orc called Bright. A concept that the piece of shit
once described as his Star Wars.Thank you for taking this long
walk off a short pair with me. So in honor the film he watched,

(01:02:05):
I'm going to read a quote from you.
I need you to tell me it was in 2017 film Bright where I made it
up. So today's segment is called
Bright Burn Notice. Wow.
First quote, Yeah, once again. Once again, here's the rule of

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street at home. Is this a quote?
Is this a quote that I made-up, or is this from the 2017 film
Bright, which once again stars Will Smith and Joel Edgerton?
It's about an orc cop is. This.
Like and a cop in Los Angeles that lives in a fairy tale
world. What?
And you couldn't figure out it'sabout racism.

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This is one of the movies I kindof was reminded of because when
I when you punch in bright burn into LB, it's.
The first one. Bright pops up until you add
that B at the end all. Right, first quote.
Yo, that fairy bin all up in my crib eating up my dog food and
shit. I'm about to call the city, man.
I am the city, all right? You save your dime, fairy.

(01:03:08):
Lives don't matter today. Holy moly.
From the movie or did I make that up?
I I think that's from, right? That is a real quote from right?
I got to watch this piece of shit.
When you look and work in the eye, it's like you're looking

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into the asshole of a fucking scaly ass alligator.
You can't read them and most of the time you're waiting for the
shit to fall out. Whoa, from bright or from me?
I want to say you because I I hope you wrote that.
I did write that. That's good.
Man, save that. OK, so I need you to take your

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fat Shrek looking ass right backto your vehicle and drive the
fuck off to Fiona, all right? Do you want to go to jail?
This is tough. Do they reference Shrek in the
film Bright? It's a question.
I can't imagine they do. I think you wrote that as well.

(01:04:19):
That's from the movie Bright What?
Now I really got to watch this. What is that even?
What are the implications there?Is Shrek like like JFK in the
bright universe? Oh oh oh he's a hero.
Like he's a hero was assassinated.
What if Shrek was in Dealey Plaza in the Bright timeline?

(01:04:41):
Wait, OK, that's scary. That's magic right there.
That's whatever you want. You want $1,000,000?
You want 10 million? You want to be taller or
shorter? Make your Dick bigger.
You want to go back in time? You want to marry the girl who
didn't blow you on prom night? That's how you do it right here.

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From Bright or from? Me.
That's got to be bright. That is bright.
That sounds like a land, this one.
You ever fired a gun before, Ricky?
Only in Call of Duty. This gun got a little more kick,
just like your Mama had on me last night.
So not up or shut up, because this is the epic moment that
we've been dreaming about. Holy shit, I really hope that's

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you that. Is me, if that.
Was in the movie. I would be.
I would watch it tonight. All right, last one.
No holes. Only the holes I was born with.
How are your holes? How the fuck can you make a
shootout? Fucking awkward.
Sorry, sorry. Is that a line from right?

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Yeah, that's right. Oh my God, dude.
Max And this is Star Wars? Nope.
We should watch Bright. Sam, Sam actually hit pretty
good there. Only got one that two or three
wrong. So that was bright Burn Notice
everybody. So, Sam, if you had the option,

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you know, you're walking throughyour house, you're walking
through your farmhouse and it's late, it's dark.
Would you, let's say, see the red glow of the bright burn DVD,
Blu-ray and. It's both.
And break it out the trap door. Yeah, it's combo.

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Or would you lock it up and not let your crazy son get anywhere
near that thing? I would grab the DVD Blu-ray
with the digital code I would assume.
Oh. Yeah, of course.
Ultraviolet. Ultraviolet, whatever it was,
yeah. And I would take it out of the

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glowing red. I would hold it like Elizabeth
Banks. And I would just watch it and
let the blood run out of my eyesand my nose, just like Elizabeth
Banks in this film. What about you?
So you liked it? Yeah, no, it's it's great
because the movie is so bloody and gory.
It's. Like you want a good bracelet?
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm opening up,open up that trap door and and

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I'm and I'm listening to my father and I'm killing the
world. I'm taking the world all for
Brayburn. Take the Gorrel.
It was, it was a, it was a pleasant, pleasant surprise.
I guess I thought this one was bad because I think it has like
a mixed reaction like from the critics.
So I guess kind of assumed that wasn't great.
Why do you think people don't like it?

(01:07:44):
I think. People were cheap ready for this
nihilistic take. Like I said, like people were
not into like a darker taken super at this time.
Yeah, 'cause it comes out. I think I was curious, 'cause I
was like, what about the boys like?
Kind of the same year as the first season, right?
But. Yeah, but I.
People were ready for UA. What was it going 'cause I feel

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like the boys are the satire andthat's kind of a.
It's more fun. More fun and this is more
nihilistic and dark. Lemay, that's a hint.
For next week's episode, Zoolander 2.
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