Tomorrowland (2015)

Tomorrow is sleek buildings and big robots

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Leap into a different dimension with Andrew and Sam on this week's episode as they talk about robots, George Clooney, and evil British guys giving monologues. Will we change the course of our future by taking this off the shelf, or will we give in to the reality that this is a shelf warmer?

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Edited by: Rachel Mihatov

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Episode Transcript

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Welcome back to Shelf Warmers. I'm Sam.
And I'm Andrew. This is the podcast where we
watch and discuss movies from roughly 2012 to 2020, AKA the
pump and dump period of Hollywood.
Not exactly a golden age, but definitely a time of high
fertility for Tinseltown. So fertile, in fact, that we did
not see many of the movies produced.
So they're good, they're bad, orjust mad.

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We're going to cover it all. It's been sitting on the shelf.
Well, it's time to take it down.That's right, and today we're
covering 2015's Tomorrowland, starring Britt Robertson, George
Clooney and directed by. Bradford, one of our guys.
Yeah, I mean, absolutely. It's kind of funny.
When we were in college, we usedto when we when we be like, you

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know, like getting ready to go out.
This happened at least twice. We begin the mood.
We always take shots and drinking and being crazy college
kids, we would run the first actof The Incredibles.
Specifically the first act. It's it's an amazing first act
and I love about you, but I got a very similar vibe to the
Incredibles in the first like 5 minutes and we'll jump the gun

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there, but. I had to look it up because
there's this opening title, obviously Tomorrowland and
Incredibles. Same font.
It's like very similar it. It does feel like a lot of him
hitting the same kind of beats. Come on, come on.
That versus that very similar for our video listeners.

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What's the same like retro future vibe that he's obsessed
with? Yeah, a lot of retro future is
nostalgia here, which I feel like Brad Bird wasn't even a
part of. No, he's like 60.
He's like your dad's age. He was not like 10 years old.
Going to the World's Fair in 64.Yeah.
Sam, what's the synopsis of thismovie Tomorrowland?

(02:02):
I've never, never heard about it.
Can you fill me on that? I'm going to tell all our
listeners about Tomorrowland. I mean, like all of these show
formers. You probably remember seeing the
trailer. Oh, I remember the jail scene.
Yes, when the jail scene comes up, you're like, oh, this is
from the Tomorrowland trailer. Yeah, of course, I'm very
familiar with that. But whenever Casey Newton

(02:24):
touches that lapel pin with the letter T on it, she finds
herself transported to Tomorrowland, a city filled with
huge robots and sleek buildings.The gifted young woman recruits
the HELP scientists. I get you special They call it
sleek buildings and huge robots.That's what it is.
Honestly, that is kind of all itis.

(02:44):
We we don't really see a lot about the place.
Kind of blurry, like, you know, just kind of vague CGI.
Was thinking about that at one point they do crash into a
building and I was like so they like office buildings or like.
Laboratory like 2025 people. There's like around, yeah,
there's like 6 caps caps. Sorry, we're in Boston over the
weekend so I slipped in that bag.
So caught. Some of that.

(03:05):
Yeah, caught some of that from the Boston speaker.
Yeah, there's like 5 cops, like 5 scientists in like an army of
robots. But Casey basically recruits the
help of scientist Frank Walker, a previous visitor to
Tomorrowland who years ago made a startling discovery about the
future. Played by George.
Clooney played by George Clooneyand together.

(03:25):
What are you insinuating with that whistle?
He's a he's a silver fox, and this man looks good.
This is like when he really hitshis stride of like being older.
Clooney Pitt did the same thing.Like they get to a certain age
where they're just like. Yeah, they're and he could be,
he could be 45 and this I would have no idea.
He's probably 50. I I genuinely have no idea.

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You think he might be a little. Older.
Yeah, he could be older, but I have no clue how old George
Clooney is. I was like, is he like 70 now?
Like like how old is George Clooney?
Born in He's 6460. Four.
Wow. So.
He was like 5510 years ago. Clooney age check on this 54
when he made to Marlin 64. Nowadays, we hope he makes it to
65 folks. I just looked him up and he has,
they have that crazy picture of him.

(04:09):
Oh, yeah, good night and good luck.
But he's he dyes his hair black.Yeah.
And it's exactly what we're not talking about with Tomorrowland.
It makes him look older. It looks like the second version
of the Joker from Batman animated series.
Do you remember that? Where his hair's black.
His hair's black, you get the redesign and they're like, if
something's off. There's a green streak.
So Clooney's a scientist with Silver Fox.

(04:31):
Yeah, they make a discovery about the future, which is
basically the world's ending in 58 days or something weirdly
specific, but also like, a long time. 58 days.
That's a lot of time to get yourshit together.
Yeah. You probably stop it.
But together, the two adventurers travel to the
metropolis to uncover its mysterious secrets, Which.
I don't even know its secrets. No, I think everybody's pretty

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quickly been like, here's what'shappening.
Yeah, it's very clear. The stakes are the world.
Which is always good. Stan, do you know when
Tomorrowland came out? I know it came out in 2015,
which was a big year for us. May 22nd, 2015 I will say to
jump the gun. I did see this movie opening
weekend in the theater. Whoa.

(05:14):
So, but with my dad, yeah, my dad and I.
My dad and I are big of Disney guys, or we were.
I don't know if I still would say I am, but I was in high
school. It's OK, no shame here in the
show. Former Pond.
I'm not like I'm a Disney adult,but I have an appreciation for
the parks and the craftsmanship that goes into those things and
making those as like a as magical as they are.
I've always really enjoyed, but the immersion also the

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craftsmanship of the rides and this, the aesthetic, not really
like that. It really is something so
impressive. I mean, yeah, they set the
standard for every amusement park.
And I think the amusement parks are probably doing more
innovative, exciting things thanthe films, which is kind of what
the Pandora little slate here isabout of, you know, yeah, Disney

(05:57):
kind of losing steam on the big screen.
Yeah, and we'll touch back on, it's on the parks in a second,
but I do want to say this has been May 22nd.
As I said, open up against the remake of Poltergeist, something
that might be covered down the line on the podcast.
Yeah, we'll see. But you also know.
You also know what films are going up against.
What? Age of Ultron when the theaters

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May 1st. Maybe the most excited I was I
ever watched for a movie. I think we've talked about this,
but I was definitely more excited for Avengers Age of
Ultron than Force Awakens. Yeah, absolutely.
I I love that first Avengers movie so much when I was a kid.
I feel like we talk about the MCU every single episode.

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This show is so far. But also, but also like this was
the era. Like we were like 13 watching
Avengers. Like it was like, or I was 11,
whatever. And it was like the coolest
thing of all time. Yeah.
And like, I liked Avengers, it was good.
But something about that marketing campaign and the
trailers. No strings to hold me down.

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Yeah, you know, big guy Disney. There were two other movies in
theaters. Here's this month that I also
saw in theaters. When are they pitch perfect 2?
You saw you motherfucker. You saw Pitch Perfect Two in
theaters. And Tomorrowland?
What about it? I don't.
Think it could be the? I like pitch perfect.
I like Pitch Perfect. The whole point of the show is

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these have been on the shelf. You were there opening day and.
The other movies opened up against around the same time.
Was Fury Rd. a movie I also saw in theaters?
It was a big month for me, big month for me.
Maybe I was like down with something because I don't.
I didn't see Fury Rd. I didn't see.
It's called being lazy. You think I was?
You get your ass to the theater.Well, it's 2015.

(07:44):
What was that? 7th grade?
Yeah. Spring of 7th, Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know what I was doing,
but I wasn't seeing Tomorrowland.
And this also, I like to say, isa part of our Disney disaster
series. This is the third out of our 4th
Disney disaster films. Next week we'll you're gonna
have to listen to find out aboutthat.
But suffer. We've covered John Carter of

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Mars, The Lone Ranger, and now we're on Tomorrowland.
Yes. So Sam, before we kind of get
into the main discussion of the episode, I also would like to
ask you, what is your relationship with Disney World
and Disney and just the kind of the mythos of it all?
Cuz this film, this film is kindof in love with Disney, but also
like kind of drops that threat kind of pretty early on.

(08:26):
It's kind of interesting thing that does with the idea of the
theme parks and amazement and wonder and everything.
Well, I've got a lot of the Disney trivia a little later on,
but personally, I've mean the Disney Vault was something that
was extremely coveted in my house.
Like the idea of these movies being locked away and then re

(08:50):
released on DVD and they would be like the silver collection.
And there was like this little star that was on the DVD and I
was like movie Rewards Club or Disney Rewards Club.
Yeah, what the hell it was. My Jungle Book 1 I think I had
that. Yeah, and it was like my memory
of it. And this could be completely
wrong is like when we were youngand at the ripe age of being

(09:11):
into these movies, like 56789, whatever, I feel like they were
coming out on DVD as we were growing up.
So I remember it was like the 70th anniversary.
That can't be right. The 50th anniversary of, you
know, whatever, 101 Dalmatians. And like, I remember getting the
DVD and being like, hell yeah, like, let's pop this in.

(09:33):
And like, having the films. Like when you're a kid, you
become so invested in the DisneyWorld and the characters, it's
like you almost know the storiesbefore you even watch the movie.
You go to the park and you're like, Oh my God, Goofy.
Like, Oh my God. Baloo from The Jungle Book.
Yeah, Baloo, Cruella. There's some weird ones, like if
you go on a bad day, you get like the C listers, the D

(09:55):
listers. Like I remember I went when I
went to Disney. I've only been to Disney twice
really. First time was like the time
when I was like in second grade and I was like, so jazzed.
And I was getting the autographs, you know.
Oh, of course, yeah. And remember, it was the little
girl aunt from Bug's Life running, running around Animal

(10:17):
Kingdom. And I was like, I don't.
Even get flick. I don't even know her fucking
name so I don't want her autograph.
She said Oh designer, the girl Aunt, lady aunt.
Little girl Aunt Dear Sam can't even the good work.
I'll see you in the I'll see youin the anthill.
I was just like, what the hell? And then there was AI.

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Remember, Peter Pan was rocking that.
He was walking around. Yeah.
And that was great. It was a strange to me with Pan.
I don't the same way now, but back in the day I remember he
would be the human head and you see Hook would have the the.
Huge mascot. Yeah, and it was a strange thing
to me. Yeah, have some consistency and
maybe that's changed now. I'd also like to say too, that

(11:01):
for the DVDs of the 2000s, I think I was at a record store
the other day I was talking to this guy about.
He asked me if I really had DVDsgrowing up.
I said, yeah, like we had DVDs and we were on the edge of VHSS
too. But I said I don't really have
any CDs because that was kind ofthe time that we start listening
to music that already was like we had Apple Music or whatever,
iTunes. But I was saying that like we

(11:22):
were kind of the last or we werekind of the last of a generation
that really have DVDs and VHSSS in that now we had it, I think
because it was kind of the earlyinvention and within what, 10
years it was like, OK, well, youcan rent it and on demand.
So that so that kind of left quickly.
I think they're like, like this is like a big thing.
Let's just pump them out HD. Remastered every every time we

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talk. I do love, I love doing this
show because it really does unlock memories for me.
And I remember like a pastime ofmine as a kid was looking at my
huge shelf of DVDs and like doing a reorg.
So I would spend like 3 hours ona Saturday and being like, let's
let's sort them by genre. Let's do genre.

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Oh, what's that genre? OK, fuck it, let's do order of
release, order, order of release.
And that always took the fuckinglongest because I had to look it
up and put them in order and it made no sense because it was
like, why? Why is Yeah Why is like Jungle
Book live next to Dirty Harry? I was like OK and then most

(12:28):
commonly alphabetical. Sure, but maybe the release date
one is why I'm pretty good with the release dates.
Yeah, cuz you, you're like, you're like a kid whose mom gave
him like extra homework on the weekend, Like you were like in
advance, like trying to train for this.
Yeah, I didn't have many friends, so I I played with my

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DVDs. I don't remember this, but for
example, in Tomorrowland, they have a like a talking robot.
I'm sorry, a talking of a trash can.
And if you try to throw stuff and they'll be like, hey, what
are you doing that for in the trash can?
Yeah. And then his wheels and
someone's like, and there's a guy who's actually controlling
him and he's hiding away so you won't see the trash can.

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Yeah, but they don't like, be like, stop punching, stuffing
me. And he'll, like, feel mad, yeah.
But stuff like that, I was always like, just always amazed
by that kind of stuff. I'm like always doing bits like
so. Do you remember Tomorrowland?
Oh yeah, vividly. It had Monsters Inc, Laugh
Factory at the Buzz Lightyear ride Space Mountain, obviously,

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and it had the Carousel Progress, which is one of my
favorites. Which?
Was. Oh, it is, because that's
mentioned in the. Research.
Yeah, the It's a great big beautiful tomorrow.
That's the song that plays at the end of Carousel Progress.
And I think it's in the movie. Yes, yeah, it is.
And that was Walt's vision for the future.
And it'll be this thing. It starts in like the, I wanna

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say like the 20s, maybe even before that.
And it goes through a few like decades.
It's like a classic Disney animatronic.
Yes, yes. Absolutely.
And then and then you, the audience sit in these seats and
in the theater like, you know, does like it does like a
rotating thing in the vein of like, you know, like Jurassic
Park. Yes.
When they're, when they're seeing this stuff and they're.

(14:15):
It's sort of like a ride. Yeah.
No, Yeah, exactly. So but so, the idea of
Tomorrowland was always very exciting to me.
Tomorrowland the Movie. It starts on a shitty like
digital like glitch effect that you would find like a Da Vinci.
And I went, Oh no. It's like and then it's this
crisp 4K looking footage of Clooney.

(14:38):
Is this thing on? And he's talking right to the
camera. And this was a scene I thought
was like added on later by the studio because I was like, this
is like, lame. It's basically just exposition
yelling right at the audience. It feels, it feels how it's
written, though. Feels like very incredibles.
Like, you know, like it's. I was thinking that too, and

(14:59):
like the way it's cut together, it almost struck me as like it
kind of you could imagine what it would look like if it was
animated. Yeah, if it was a Violet and a
Bob doing that or something, Yeah.
I also did note that this is pretty much all three, actually.
Literally all three of the movies so far and Disney
disaster series have been a story within a story or a frame
within a frame. What do you want to say?

(15:20):
I was noticing that, too. And there's a lot of overlap
with, like, nostalgia and like, remember when it was the 30s in
San Francisco and this little cowboy was talking to Tonto in a
Native American exhibit? And this one's like, remember
the 1964 World's Fair? Yeah.
And it's like I don't. Wasn't that great?
And. I think my grandpa even

(15:42):
remembers that. Yeah.
But yeah, so Clooney's telling astory about when he was a kid.
And then we had this pretty extended flashback to the 1964
World's Fair where young Clooney's walking around with
his jetpack that he's created. Jetpack, Jetpack.
Pock packet? I used to say pock was little

(16:05):
packet. Yeah, I believe it's a JET
packet. And then your mom would hit you
on his nose pack. He knew the rolling pin.
It's Pack Jet Packet and it's inthe 1964 World's Fair where he
talks to Hugh Laurie. House, MD himself.
And he's kind of looking at the jetpack, and he's like, this

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doesn't work. And he's like, well, kinda.
And then we get a cutaway withinthe flashback where he's like,
he blasts off and, like, fuckingcrashes.
Yeah. And that's not this.
Farmland. Really good.
Yeah, no, it it felt like Hugo to me, the opening scene.
Well, cuz then also Hugo Echo, like he meets this girl and he's

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talking to this girl and she's somehow related to Hugh Laurie
in this 64 World's Fair thing and I guess they strike up a
friendship. And that girl's played by Raffi
Cassidy, yes, who we just saw inthe Brutalist this past year.
Yes. That incredibly short film, The
Brutalist. Yeah.
Longer than Tomorrowland, But does it feel like it?

(17:11):
Yeah, it's long. Yeah, it feels long.
Which one? Tomorrowland.
I would say the brew list feels feels longer cuz it is longer.
You feel it. Yeah, you feel it.
Cuz it is. I did, I will say I did take an
intermission for tomorrow and get to Paris and I was like, I'm
getting really tired. So I just set an alarm and I and
I took a 15 minute nap like. Yeah, they end up.

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In Paris, yeah, and I kept watching.
But it was nice, though, honestly.
Like I feel like I was rejuvenating for the
second-half. That's good.
Actually it's not even second-half cuz he will already
reappearance, but like 40 minutes left in this movie.
Yeah, it's like, oh, OK. Hefty well, Clooney does well.
He's he's a joke for like an hour and 10 again.
Yeah, like I said, there's this big opening, like flashback of

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Clooney, and eventually he gets invited by the girl to go to
Tomorrowland. Yeah.
So he's flying around his jet pack.
This robot helps him repair the jet pack, and now he works.
So he's flying around Tomorrowland like da, da, da,
da, like, so great. Then it's like we get Britt
Robertson, who's also in the beginning, and she explains her

(18:16):
past. Yeah.
And we get Judy Greer. One scene.
In this 2003 found footage. Judy Greer and Tim McGraw.
Tim McGraw, who's really good. He's got this movie.
He's really good as. He's going in a bad movie, The
Blind Side. That's right.
Yeah, he's also in one of the Yellowstone shows, I think.
Yes. So this is probably this is kind

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of an odd career choice from I guess.
Yeah, so let me see Britt Robertson, Casey playing Casey.
Yeah. And Casey's running around and,
like, Prevent. She's like breaking into NASA.
Yeah, it's kind of awesome. And it's very 2015 that like you
like me, I think of like Ethan Hunt.
They play some horrendous song. I would dude I was thinking

(18:58):
about how many like alt rock bands from the 2000 tens made a
good check from like a random like you know like action would
be like this fits the era like throwing them some.
And then they're like jumping around the launchpad.
And then, yeah, her dad is a NASA engineer.

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We find out. Tim McGraw, Tim McGraw I do like
before we jump a little bit too far ahead from the opening, I do
like that feeling that it captures of them being on like
it's a small world and and stufflike it's.
Yes, yes, there's almost like atthe 64 World's Fair, there's
this whole I've seen where they go on.

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It's a small world. Yeah, it's also interesting that
they like didn't choose like Space Mountain and they chose
it's a small. World that's actually
historically accurate. Because it was the first one.
Disney brought that to the WorldFair in New York, that actual
attraction. I do wonder why they make it
Disney, like is that just like an ode to Disney or like like,
you know what I mean? Like why frame it within that

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and then like never go back to it?
Because it actually happened. No, I know, but I'm saying like
it's almost like it is like a lot to be like, oh, Walt Disney
World exists in this moot out ofthe universe and then like.
And then they go to like. I thought it'd be like more.
So Tomorrowland is like not evenmentioned.
No, they say like one time I think what?
Are we? What are we actually meant to

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believe? Tomorrowland is that's.
What I was curious, but I was curious like is this this like
why use why like use the name and use everything and then like
not have it like kind of story like I was seeing that opening
scene. I was like, oh, I haven't seen
it in 10 years. Is like is like is the lore of
Disney involved in this plot? But not really.

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That would actually be freaking cool if the villain of the movie
was Walt. Disney's head.
Well, yeah, but but it's something insane like that.
Like I was like, you know, it's the shady, like you know what
businessman is, the inventors orsomething like that.
I don't know. It's not really like cuz even
like Hugh Laurie, you don't evenknow like what he does.
There is some kind of weird, like cosmic creepy thing
happening with the Disney connection.

(21:03):
Sure. Yeah.
It's like Disney's goal. He basically got, I guess, bored
of animating movies towards the end of his life and was really
looking towards Epcot. Yeah, and trying to make this
city of the future or whatever Epcot is for.
Yeah, well, you also know that he literally was making a town
in Florida that was gonna be like a Disney.

(21:25):
Colony. Yeah like actually it was like
his version of utopia. Yeah, and he died before it
happened, which is always complicates his legacy to me cuz
I think about this more and moreand I think about the iconic
imagery of Disney and I think well designed by a Nazis.
Walt was not a great guy himself.

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I'm like, what does his utopia mean?
And that's kind of what I was thinking in the back of my head
during this movie. I was like, what is this taking
inspiration from me? Like is it just is it just
taking his name and ideas and only name?
Or is it like, what is the anglethat Brad Bird had for this?
Like is it a love for Disney? Like what is what is his

(22:09):
inspiration behind this? And I couldn't really find it.
I think it is going to the parksand maybe having some kind of
wonder and, you know, hope for the future in that park.
I don't know. The villain of the movie, played
by Hugh Laurie, kind of. He has his baller monologue.

(22:33):
He does. And I wrote it down because I
want to recite it eventually, but he makes some really good
points. He does.
He does. I was also surprised by how
timely a whole movie is and how smart it is.
And I was like, oh, this is likea political movie.
When I was like 14, I didn't have any.

(22:54):
Didn't have any like, you know, awareness of that.
Yeah, it is political though. But like we said, Walt Disney
did have this idea for a City ofthe Future Epcot, the
Experimental Prototype Communityof Tomorrow, which I guess now
is just a giant silver ball. Yeah.
And pretty much that. Some Chinese restaurants and

(23:16):
Italian restaurants all put together.
And like a race track, test track, test track.
I remember test track and the mission of Mars maybe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like it's kind of the sci-fi
ones the most to be like, oh, this is Walt's vision realized,
I guess. But even though it's like, not
that at all. And then make Tomorrowland
itself in the Magic Kingdom was also like this weird vision of

(23:41):
his future. Yeah, flying cars, flying cars
and such. Robots and jet packs.
And slim buildings. Sleek buildings, Sleek
buildings, Huge robots please. How do you feel with the pin as
like the item of the movie it? Kind of reminded me of the Ring

(24:03):
in Lord of the Rings. Sure.
Yeah, no, yeah. It's a cool design.
It's a it's a cool thing to keepus going.
You basically see Athena, who's the girl from the Brutalist, and
she takes a piece of Casey's hair and like, scans it and
like, syncs it up with this pin and then like leaves the pin

(24:25):
with her. So then when she is breaking
into the launchpad for NASA, shegets arrested.
So at that point, this is the scene we were talking about in
the trailer. When she's bailed out of prison,
prison, jail, she's picking up all her stuff.
And the last thing is his pin. She's like.
I've never seen that. What is this like?

(24:45):
This isn't my pin like what is this?
This is crazy like. Prison garlic disappears into
the darkness. And in the trailer, you almost
think, oh, he's in on it. Yeah.
But in the movie, there's no, nothing points to that, really.
But it's kind of strange how he just walks away into the
darkness. What?
So she's in this like, you know,jail waiting room.
And when she touches it, you know, she's in the frame.

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And then suddenly everything around her is like this field.
Match cut, as they say, match cut.
It's seamless, it looks great. Like that stuff is just like fun
movie making stuff. And there's like a sound effect
that is made when she touches. It was like like it's, it's fun.
It it feels very Wizard of Oz. And literally also in the

(25:30):
opening scene there is that framing of him when he first
walks into Tomorrowland. It's the Dorothy shot.
Yeah, yeah. Which I guess was Bird's biggest
inspiration. Maybe honestly from I feel like
I feel like in terms of the lookof the in terms of the look of
the whole city of Tomorrowland, it does feel a very like Emerald
City. But it's sleek buildings and
huge robots. Sleek buildings and huge robots

(25:50):
instead of flying monkeys and little men pretending to be big
men. Not huge men, not huge robots.
But yeah, like you said, Brad Bird directs this.
It's extremely watchable. I like it.
I liked it. I liked it too.
I did. Well, you didn't sound too
thrilled about it, but I really was surprised by how much I
enjoyed this. I think it's a little slow.

(26:13):
I actually think it gets better towards the middle.
And then the third act as a complete I would drop off and
count nothing happening. On that issue, until the very
end, I think this is actually one of the most moving last
shots. In the movie, yeah.

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I also love the character of Casey.
I'll show you. Let me say that I don't love the
character of Casey, but really enjoy the setup of that.
She's this rebel and she's in school and she's smart and she's
driven and there's this like, really good montage of her
trying to raise her hand in eachclass and teachers are just
going on and on about how the world is.

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Yeah, the teachers are cartooningly actually crazy
where they're like mutually assured destruction climate
change like 1984 is now. Like and then she just wants to
ask why, like why like how do wefix it?
And they don't really can. We fix.
It they don't want to give her an answer, they'd rather much.
They'd rather stay in that fear,which is kind of the thesis of
the movies. You'd rather just, like, sit and

(27:14):
worry and complain than actually, like, take action.
Yeah. To fix the world around you,
which is kind of, which is kind of what?
Which kind of the Brad Bird anxiety, which is what he was
writing about? That's kind of where I'm at with
the movie, where it's like the core theme of the movie I
absolutely adore, like this ideaof having hope.
And there's this whole, and it'sobviously over the top of the
movie, but you, it's meant for children.

(27:37):
You meant to kind of buy into these bigger themes of, you
know, the story of the two wolves.
Yeah. That Casey's dad tells her about
where one wolf. I couldn't tell you.
Well I know it's from like if you feed an angry wolf or
something. What the fuck is it?

(27:58):
It will come back for more, but if you I, I don't know.
So Casey's like there are two wolves and they are always
fighting. One is darkness and despair, the
other is light and hope. Which wolf wins?
It's. The one you feed, right?
Whichever 1 you feed. So you're either feeding

(28:18):
darkness and despair. If you're feeding into that and
creating that, you end up with teachers who are like, yeah, the
world's gonna end. We're all gonna die.
Yeah, Equity media cycle. Yeah, if you feed light and
hope, maybe things will change. And she is that change because
basically when she stumbles across Clooney, Clooney's is
doomsdayer, constantly watching these screens as the countdown

(28:42):
is going and he's like 100%, theworld's going to end 100%.
As soon as she walks in and she's like, wait, what is this?
What's going on? Like she starts to doubt it.
She starts to have a little bit of hope.
It's a great visual. The 100% goes to 99.999.
Yeah, it's like boop. And he's like, what the fuck?

(29:03):
Like. And he starts to have hope and
it, you know, it's this thematicshift, which is great.
Yeah, she she starts to go out on a quest when she kind of,
once she uncovers this pin has more of a meaning that it's just
a pin and she's seen his visionsof Tomorrowland.
She goes out to Austin, TX. Or is it somewhere in Texas to

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kind of seek out this couple that's a retro shop in order to
see if anything about the pin? And it's kind of the start of
her journey. She's getting followed by Athena
too. And she's really kind of cool.
But weird scene with her and Katherine Hahn and Akika Michael
Key in a terrible wig. And also does he have like a a

(29:46):
fat suit on? Yeah, fat suit on.
But it's like, it's like not a big fat suit.
He just has like a gut. The gut.
Yeah. And.
And she's in a Southern accent. Yeah.
For some reason that he's not. And it's just kind of this,
like, weird movie. Also, I feel like he is making
fun of, like, the nerd culture too.
As someone that's really mainly only done like original stuff,

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It's funny. To say that because Brad Bird
was the first choice to direct episode 7.
Start with Wow Star. Wars.
And he respectfully declined to do Tomorrowland.
And he was like, well, you know,it's rare to do a film of this
size that's original. So those opportunities can't be

(30:28):
missed either. Yep and it missed big and put
him in director jail again. I guess except for Incredibles
2, but that was kind of like a that's a sure thing hit come.
Home. Come Bird.
Come home Brad Bird yeah he. But it's kind of this crazy
scene where, you know, they sortof talk about the place and then
you find out that they're actually robots.

(30:48):
They're sent from Hugh Laurie, and they were the killer now.
Yeah. And it's like this kind of fun
futuristic fight where there's. All these toys flying around.
Yeah, I saw I saw Mr. Incredible.
Yeah, action figure, but it's like really kind of embracing
the sci-fi like technology and kind of the Looney Tunes.
Like, you know, that's sort of like big gun that we have hid

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under the table and it's fun. And the robots and they explode.
And then she kinda links up withAthena.
Yeah. And then you get the other also
also you get the introduction tothe other robots.
The like the I guess he grew up and yeah, didn't know she was a
robot. Like, you know what I know?
I also like the generational work they're doing here in terms

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of like it is like a father daughter story, even though it's
like not a father daughter story.
I also what else maybe like if they like brought Tim McGraw and
brought the little brother with him in the adventure.
The little brother who also looks like young Clooney.
In the I thought it was the sameactor at first.
I was confused. Yeah, they look exactly the

(31:51):
same. I was like, oh, this could be
kind of like a fun family thing,but I'm like, oh, is that 2
similar to The Incredibles? He wanted to distance that.
So I do like what they're doing with in terms of, like, his
opening, he's at the World Fair.And like her opening is being
filmed at a camcorder. Even just that little thing.
I was like, oh, this is kind of like a fun thing, the way you're
bringing these generations. Yeah, people together.

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But it's kind of cool how they started from the same place.
Absolutely. As the film says, they start off
as these dreamers. The world needs dreamers, and
you're this kid, and you have all these ideas.
And, you know, when Casey meets Clooney's character, he's very
jaded. He's very, you know, cynical.

(32:34):
And he's lost all hope, which, Imean, you could figure out how
the rest of the movie goes. Yeah.
But he changes. He's changes.
Let's talk about. Clooney for a second because he
God damn he's a movie star. Well, to start off, biggest
paycheck he's received for a movie.
Probably his last big paycheck. Two ENT $3,000,000.
Wow, has he opened a movie like this since then?

(32:57):
Probably not, right? He kind of went away for a while
I feel like. Yeah, he did like some more work
in the directing. Field, right?
Well, first of all, Clooney. Gives Suburbia the movie.
That's right. We should do that.
You just witnessed creation on the pod field.

(33:17):
I can play for a habit. That movie.
Wow. He's in the flash.
Yeah, I was just thinking about that.
I was like, why is he at the endof The Flash as Batman?
So strange. But actually the answer to that,
too is because they didn't want to set anyone up for
expectations. They're like, it's like it could
be Affleck in the next TCU, it could be our patents, and it

(33:38):
could be Michael Keaton. No, we're just gonna throw in
Clooney because no one will think he's going to keep being
Batman. Clearly I was.
We're saying anything. We think he kind of went away,
but he kind of pops up here a few years.
So he does Monuments Men before Tomorrowland.
Which he directs to. Yeah, then he does like Hail
Caesar. Oh, he's great in Hail, Caesar.
He's really good in great. In Hail Caesar.

(33:59):
Then money monster. With him and Roberts, right?
Yeah, him and Julie Roberts isn't.
It's a Jodie Foster film. Wow, that's interesting.
That would be good to do on the pod.
We're just having a production meeting now and I think was this
a COVID movie? Midnight Sky like a sci-fi.
One, he also directed that too. He's not a Netflix.

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Movie. He's not a terribly good
director. No, maybe his best is a
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind is maybe his best.
Yeah, he keeps with Rockwell. Our guy.
One of our guys there's. A lot of guys.
He he he has some movies that could be on here with best of
enemies with him and like TarajiP Henson where he was in his

(34:41):
racist kick of playing racist. He's really good at it,
actually. But yeah, I think Clooney and
Casey Britt Robertson, I feel like they're really good
together. They are good and.
Because he's George Clooney, because he is a huge ass
celebrity and a great actor, it does elevate this otherwise kind
of predictable script. Like the best thing in those

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movies when they're in his houseand then slam the robot show up
and it's like a Looney Tunes scene.
Like it's all like home alone. Oh then just like if him just
using his adventures and. Killing Clooney was Kevin
McAllister. Yeah, and she was Bugs Bunny.
Well, wouldn't that be awesome? I would love to see that. 2
icons. 2 icons of the silver screen killing robots together.

(35:30):
And then they make their escape.Meet up with Athena again.
Meet up with Athena. Athena and Clooney are bickering
which is kind of funny to watch.Like I thought usually the
downside of these movies is likethe drama scenes and the
dialogue scenes. I actually liked a lot of the
more dramatic scenes in this movie.
Yeah, it's weird because a lot of the choices they make in the

(35:51):
beats are very like, fun and creative, but the overarching
plot is boring. It makes sense.
That's exactly you hit the nail on the head there.
Because then the next they go toParis and they launch a rocket
out of the Eiffel Tower, which is an awesome sequence.
And I was like, this rules. This absolutely rules.
And I was like, where are we going?
We're going back to the Nova Core from Guardians of the

(36:13):
Galaxy. Yeah.
Cuz that's what the whole entireplace looks like in
Tomorrowland. I was like, you're gonna make it
a little bit more visually interesting.
Like it's colorful. Yeah, exactly.
Isn't Tomorrowland colorful? Yeah.
Like the real Tomorrowland. Like it's like retro features.
It's maybe a little bit like it's a little grey, but I'm
like, we'll make it look better because you're doing a movie.
Now, yeah, if you're doing Oz aswell, yeah.

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But yeah. So they go to, like we said, the
Eiffel Tower, and you're like, what the fuck?
Why are they at the Eiffel Tower?
And you find out from Frank, Frank's like a history nerd,
which is kind of funny. He explains that Gustav Eiffel,
who I didn't, I'm going to sounddumb.
I don't know if that was a real guy.

(36:54):
Yeah, let's just say he is for OOP Originer Bash is saying he's
a real. Guy I'm saying he's a real guy.
No, I didn't know who he was. I.
Didn't know who he was either. I just thought it was the Eiffel
Tower. Yeah, it's a French word.
Yeah, I fell. I fell, I fell.
We call it a tower. The Tower.
It bombed there in France they just a greater tower.

(37:19):
They made the rocket Zip can. You believe that's so fabric?
Hey, Rocky ship, but I'm on thatone.
So, he explains, they basically go in and this is like another
kind of Disney. But I like there's like a whole
of present we. Were talking, yeah, like we were
talking about it earlier, like the movie is not actively about
Disney, but no. It's the Disney adjacent.

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That's why I think Bird has a lot of love for the parks and
lore where it's like now we're in the Eiffel Tower and there's
these four creepy wax figures sitting together and he explains
that Gustav Eiffel, Nikola Teslaand Thomas Edison and hometown
hero Thomas Edison, they all Co founded this thing.

(38:04):
I glazed over this when I was watching it.
I had to look it up. Later.
They Co founded Plus Ultra, a secret Society of futurists who
I guess created Tomorrowland in another dimension where they
were free to make scientific breakthroughs without
obstruction. The trio used an antique rocket
called the Spectacle hidden beneath the Eiffel Tower to

(38:26):
travel to Tomorrowland. That is cool.
Which I just like I. You know, the alternate.
History. Like I was going to say that.
Yeah, like, yeah, like. Revisionist history?
Like what? These guys were all like chilos
hell and made stuff together. Yeah, cool concepts.
That. Sounds sarcastic but it but it's
a cool concept and they look cool all.
Sitting there, yeah. Then they kind.
Of take the rocket to Tomorrowland, which is, like you

(38:48):
said, in another dimension. And she's like, Oh my God, like
we're going to. Space, this is awesome and
they're like well, not quite because then the rocket like
goes back towards Earth, but however the hell it works
wormholes, they yeah, they go. They go towards Earth and then.
It like spins around and it goesthrough a cloud and then pops
out and it's Tomorrowland. Yeah, fantastic.

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And they also hit the sleek buildings which just reminded me
fucking. Michael Giacchino does the score
for this. Good score.
He's consistent, very consistentand so good.
And they crash land. Also worth mentioning.
That both Frank and Athena are banned from Tomorrowland.
So this is their. You were kicked that break back

(39:31):
in. Yeah 25 years ago and it's AI
mean it's a fun thing where they're.
Like, on this mission together. But Clooney and Athena are
trying to kind of make amends. Yeah, they have a history, and
there's this. Sweet line where?
Athena, they almost feel like the more kind of father daughter
thing. Yeah, but she's also has this

(39:52):
hyper intelligence because she'sa robot and he was in love with
her when he was a boy. Yeah.
So it's a little complicated. Yeah, you know things.
Get a little crazy, she says. In Tomorrowland.
In Tomorrowland. Also the scripts.
Co written by Damon Lindelof. I'd have a note on that.
Do you think that? They had to set.
Part of the third act on a beach, because it was Co written

(40:14):
by Damon Lindelof, had to get back to the island.
You have to go back and she saysto him, you know, he's like, I
was just dumb. And I because the reason he's
jaded is because he feels he wascheated by Tomorrowland.
And he's like, that's a commercial.
Like, that's all bullshit. Like, da, da, da.
We think it's Brad Bird. I was just a dumb kid.

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Who fell for it? Himself thinking that there was
going. To be like a better future,
except that now we have what we have now, which sucks.
Yeah. And she's like you were many.
Things Frank Walker. But you were never dumb.
I like that line. I was like, oh, I had a lot of
moments watching this. I was like, oh, Athena, oh.

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Athena and then. Yeah, they're back in
Tomorrowland. They link up with you, Lori.
He's like, they meet up with him.
He's mad as hell. He's.
Like, he's like, he's like, too late.
The world's. Going to.
End it's around. Here where he gives his
monologue Oh please hit me with it which I could read he.
Also has his dyed hair in this too which makes him look worse.
He looks good with the grey town.

(41:17):
Yeah, they're like. Maybe it's like.
Clooney was like. Maybe I'll dye my hair for
goodnight and good luck because you know where he looks so good
in it on the third. Tomorrowland.
Meanwhile, everyone's like you, Laurie looks like.
Shit, don't tell Clooney, Clooney.
Clooney wants to dye his hair. You look at mannequin Clooney.

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10 years since this film I think.
Spoiler alert. Or maybe we shouldn't say when
we're recording this. Oh, I mean, it's a sad day.
It's a sad. Day everyone, George Wendt has
passed away. Today I like to give a special
shout out to his to his son in the black and white music video
from Michael Jackson Macaulay. Culkin turn down.

(42:01):
What is he saying? Turn down that TV.
I hope you're doing OK today as you as you lost your music video
father and we're going to have adrink for you tonight.
We with George. But what I was going.
To say is we're coming up on Memorial Day weekend and this
movie came out Memorial Day weekend.
So it's exactly 10 years, prettymuch.

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Literally in two days it would have been.
It would have been the 10th anniversary.
I don't think we'll ever be thisintentional.
With it. But happy birthday Tomorrowland.
I want to say happy birthday, happy.
Birthday. It's Tomorrowland.
Tomorrowland. That's our.
How? Do you explain that video?
There's a video of Alec Baldwin on his Instagram and he's
wishing happy birthday to his dad, who would have.

(42:44):
Been 104 something crazy yeah, but but as.
As times have gone on and we keep forgetting the age now I
would just say happy birthday tomy dad.
He would have been 138 today. Keeps getting older.
I would just say happy birthday to Athena.
She would have been 158. Yeah.

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The third act has kind of revealed that Hugh Laurie.
Hugh Laurie basically Lays. Down the facts.
And he's he's saying, you know, in 58 days the world's going to
end because, you know, you humans suck and you're just
going to be consumed by this fear.
And here in Tomorrowland, we're going to do whatever we want and

(43:27):
it's going to be peaceful and there's going to be no politics,
no bureaucracy, and we'll just get shit done.
Yeah. And he goes into this whole
thing and he's. Yeah.
I think he's talking to the girlat this point.
Yeah. Casey, where he's like, let's
imagine if you glimpse the future.
You were frightened by what you saw.
What would you do with that information?

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You would go to the politicians,captains of industry?
And how would you convince them?Data.
Facts. Good luck.
The only facts they won't challenge are the ones that keep
the wheels greased and the dollars rolling in.
Whoa. But what if?
What if there was a way of skipping the middle man and
putting the critical news directly into everyone's head?

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The probability of widespread annihilation kept going up.
The only way to stop it was to show it.
To scare people straight, because what reasonable human
being wouldn't be galvanized by the potential destruction of
everything they've ever known orloved?
To save civilization? I would show its collapse.
But how do you think this visionwas received?

(44:31):
How do you think people responded to the prospect of
imminent doom? They gobbled it up like a
chocolate eclair. They didn't fear their demise.
They repackaged it. It could be enjoyed as video
games, as TV shows, books, movies.
The entire world wholeheartedly embraced the apocalypse and
sprinted towards it with gleefulabandoned.

(44:54):
Meanwhile, your earth was crumbling all around you.
You've got simultaneous, simultaneous epidemics of
obesity and starvation. Explain that one.
Bees and butterflies start to disappear.
The glaciers melt. Algae blooms all around you.
The coal mine Canaries are dropping dead.
And you won't take the hint. In every moment, there's a

(45:16):
possibility of a better future, but you people won't believe it.
And because you won't believe it, you won't do what is
necessary to make it a reality. So you dwell on this terrible
future. You resign yourselves to it for
one reason. Because that future does not ask
anything of you today. So yes, we saw the iceberg and

(45:36):
warned the Titanic, but you all just steered for it anyway, full
steam ahead. Why?
Because you want to sink. You gave up.
That's not the monitor's fault, that's yours.
Wow, BBB. That's like the that's.

(45:56):
The real deal, yeah, that is a. That is the model of a.
Jaded man, but he's right. You can't take.
The hint the. Canaries are dead now.
What? Yeah.
And he says, I don't know. I just, I felt like when I heard
that, I was like, yeah, I was scared.
Because I was like. He's right.

(46:18):
Yeah. It also was cool to see this
movie. Again 10 years later almost to
the day and be like same place yeah yeah we're the same place
and we're worse and worse were closer also when I'm. 14 like
that stuff didn't really. Hit for me.
It was like it was a bad guy, like doing a monologue.
But now I'm like, oh, like, wow,yeah, that's shit to say.
Yeah, this film is. Very.
Real. He's like explain that it

(46:39):
doesn't make any sense. You see that the world's gonna
end and you're just not gonna doanything.
Yeah. And he's still treated like a.
Villain, but he dies hardly actually he.
Doesn't die. Hardly.
He gets. His leg gets trapped under this
piece of metal and then a fucking ball the size of a
building falls on him and he says bollocks, Yeah.
And he dies. Well, most things where I'm

(47:00):
like, yeah, you're a bad guy. Little thing.
I do agree with a lot of things you're saying in this movie.
I always wish we got more of them.
He's he's in the opening scene and he's gone for an hour and 10
minutes, but what he doesn't understand.
More of that is hope. We need hope.
We need hope. And.
Basically the the turning point.And it's like she has to figure

(47:21):
out what happened. She has to figure out how to
save the day because she's the reason it went from 100%
destruction to 99.99999. Yeah.
And she's like, wait, what is she saying?
She's like it's only The Polar Express.
Like, but have hope you got to believe Yeah, and.
She's like, hear the bell. She's like if.
We're sending these messages of destruction and horror and

(47:44):
that's leading us towards destruction.
Like I'm actually not sure exactly what she doesn't.
No, she she hacks her frequency.Or something similar to what she
did for NASA. Good things to them, yeah.
Since happy vibes. Good vibes, good vibes, good
vibes. Save the world here.
And then Athena gets. Shot and dies.
Oh my God, they make a horribly Yeah.

(48:06):
Moving, I thought. Yeah.
And then Frank, Frank. He rides that jetpack.
He's he makes no start, as they call it, Chekhov's jet Pack, and
he drops her. He drops her and she turns into
a bomb and blows shit off. Epic.
Yeah, truly. Epic because you're like, you're
bummed that she's dying. And then I was doing some catch
up to try and remember what was happening.

(48:28):
And as he's dropping her, I'm like, Oh my God, this better be
like the Death Star, Like this better explode everything.
And you see this again, horrifying image.
This little 13 year old girl goes into this mechanical orb
and then fucking. And that's what kills Hugh
Laurie, because the building is like a giant ball.

(48:50):
And there's like. Bollocks, bollocks.
And then? They kind of get to start to
shape their vision of the right Tomorrowland, and they're
sending these pins out, they're sending these robot children out
to. So why are the robot children?
I don't know. I feel like they also skipped
that part where they're I thought.
They were just. Talking to a bunch of kids,

(49:11):
yeah. And then they're like, you're
going to go out and find more people for pins.
And I was like, oh, they're robots too.
And I'm like, why they have to be kids?
I. Don't know if I trust Frank
anymore. That kind of reminded me of the
Spy Kids. Yeah, with all the robot kids,
absolutely, yeah. And it's kind of this beautiful
end scene where all these different people from all around
the world. Wow, it's a small world.

(49:36):
Are. Finding the pins.
And they're seeing their visionsof Tomorrowland, but it's not
just her by herself. And it's not just Casey.
Her family's there. Frank's there.
They're all sharing this vision of Tomorrowland.
And it's hopeful. Yeah.
So there's this. Montage of all these different
people, different cultures, different races, different
genders, everything all around the globe.

(49:57):
And they all ballet dancers, they're all given this pin.
Safari the. Dream guys?
Yeah, some. Guy who looked like he was.
Actively hunting elephants. Yeah, I was like I was.
Like is he a poacher? He gets a pin we do need.
Ivory. So everybody.
Gets a pin. Yeah, all that white.
Yeah, in Tomorrowland, true. All this all this sleek
buildings made of. Ivory dark hidden secrets within

(50:19):
2015's. Tomorrowland #15.
Tomorrowland. Poacher.
Gets. The pin, but they all get these
pins and you know, slowly cutting to each of them.
They're all about to touch the pin.
They touch the pin. Now you have all these people in
that field from the beginning looking at the city of

(50:41):
Tomorrowland. And I was like, oh, like this is
like this is say what you want about, you know, the real Walt
Disney, but the myth of Walt Disney and the myth of it's a
small world which is planted in the beginning.
Like you said, like why is this here?
Like it's paid off in that last shot.
Absolutely. Where you have this
actualization of it's a small world and everyone's going to go

(51:04):
to Tomorrowland and Tomorrowlandcan be today and a bombs.
And I know you fucking thought and.
Then it. Becomes one of the biggest.
Bombs. It lost almost $150 million.
Nobody wants to be happy. Nobody wants Joy.
They want CNN. They don't want Tomorrowland.

(51:26):
They want. MSNBC.
They want MS13, they don't want Tomorrowland.
More TV, more destruction, more.Fear, Fear.
Fear. Fear.
Fear. Yeah, yeah.
I mean. I mean, we'll get to our, I
mean, we got to our rating in a bit, but I, I really was
pleasantly surprised by how muchI enjoyed this.
I, the messaging was good. It's taking a stand on

(51:49):
something. It's got some fun performance.
It's got some fun set pieces. I I was very happy that we,
well, I'm liking it more. It's the word.
Right now. It's one of the rare movies in
the podcast that I've liked it more as we've talked about it.
Yeah, absolutely. Do you have any more facts about
the production for me? Yeah, I got a few facts here

(52:10):
for. Everybody that's one movie laugh
because I was like, how is this?Is this even fucking real?
A spontaneous dance party broke out on set, inspired by an extra
who danced like Michael Jackson.He was there in.
Spirit he was guiding over the production Casey Newtons name is

(52:31):
an. Homage to Isaac Newton?
Sure. Do you know why?
Well, Newton. But Newton?
Her first name? If you.
Take Isaac and you flip it. It's like Casey, it's like C OK,
Brad, SI OK Brad, you see, I kind of bought into that.
I was like, that's gotta be why.So the scenes in Tomorrowland

(52:52):
showing futuristic white buildings were actually shot on
location in Spain in this place called the City of Arts and
Sciences. And it looks a lot like it's
like, oh, that's what Tomorrowland is.
And it's kind of has those like rib shaped white buildings and
the eyeball shaped building. It's all real, which is kind of
Walt Disney's dream imagined in.Spain, yes.

(53:17):
Another quick one is the store Blast from the Past where Keegan
Michael Key works and Katherine Hahn is also the store that
Marty visits in Back to the Future Part 2O Cool, So this is
or he. Walks by.
So this is in Canon to Back to the Future, but I was kind of

(53:40):
off. But obviously doc.
Are you down with me? That there's two robots working
in Blast from the past, from thepast.
They turned up Tomorrowland into.
A pin. And as we only have here
telling. Me.
They turned a little girl into arobot.

(54:00):
Her name's a female body. Body must have been body and
they turn her into a fucking. Nuclear bomb at the end.
We have to blow up the little girl, Marty.
It's OK, Marty. She wants to die.
Yeah. What if she died for?
This old man, Marty Doc. Brown just sat Marty down and.
Was like watch this movie from 2015 58 days, Marty.

(54:27):
But as we always have on the show, the Marvel Smarty, oh, I
think I have like. Well, it's been it's.
You if you have Marvel, I have, but I have a new segment.
Oh I I sleep for nerd. Roundup.
OK, well, I'm the I mean, his name is John Francis Walker, AKA
the new Captain American, The New Avengers.

(54:53):
That'd be cool. Are you kidding me?
I would love to use the back. To the Future Music for every
movie. What's your nerd roundup?
I've got. Disney sweaty roundup.
OK, there's a lot I'll blast through him.
Hidden Mickey number 10 I forgot.
About those on the face of Governor Nix's.

(55:13):
Watch as he arrives in Tomorrowland for the first time.
I guess there's a Mickey on his watch.
OK, Hidden Mickey. #2 how? Many hidden Mickeys are there.
This is the. Only other one OK. 2 hidden.
Mickeys for Casey's footprints when she falls.
While the guard dog chases her. Oh yeah, apparently it's That
was cool. It's a.

(55:34):
It's a Mickey thing. The pin itself, the Tomorrowland
pin, is a loose reference to pincollecting as a hobby.
I have a love there. I'm sure you do.
I had freaking pins. I went there once.
It's like, they must make so much fucking money.
It's like, oh, you're coming to the park, you need to buy $25

(55:54):
pins. Well, the pins are good too.
I mean to be fair. And the quality is like, no, I
mean it's a nice as far. As pins are concerned, yeah.
But do you need the $3040? I don't know, man.
My David Jones one's pretty awesome.
How? Much are these pins genuinely?
I was a kid. I was also a kid so I have no.
Idea. Let's find out.
I thought I bought like a lando.Calrissian one when I.
Was there last time when I was 18 I was kind of like like 12

(56:15):
bucks for a pin. Like jeez Louise.
I do have some old ones there. Like my grandpa, like.
Said busy. He's been there from the start.
So I have like pins from like the 70s.
Thirteen to $25. OK, for a single pin, yeah,
that's kind of crazy. I remember the magic of Disney
is. When I was little, I was with my
parents and I was eating an ice cream cone and I dropped it and

(56:36):
I started sobbing. I remember this vividly.
Maybe that's your Clooney of origin.
Story and. And the one the workers saw me
sobbing and she goes back to thecart and she grabs an ice cream
for me, hand it to me. And she gives me one of her
pins. And when there's moments where I
was like, wow, I just played this magic.
If only you'd known. You could sell that pin for $30

(56:58):
on eBay. If only I'd known that was Doc
Brown. Money.
I have a crying Disney story. Yeah.
What is it I your pants? I put my pants and I start
crying. So more trivia now.
I I was in line for the Aerosmith ride.
Rock'n'roll Roller Coaster Roller Roller.
Coaster now defunct, becoming. The Electric Mayhem 1.

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Damn. Sorry, Aerosmith.
Well, yeah, but. It's.
OK, for some reason I. Found I guess.
There's a car that's upside down.
Yeah. And I thought the roller coaster
was gonna go upside down. It does go upside down.
It does. Yeah.
I started crying. I was like, they wouldn't lie.
I can't do this. I can't.
Ride. This, Like, I was bawling my
eyes out the whole time, and I really looked like an asshole

(57:42):
because when I eventually went on the ride, I had a blast.
Yeah. And I wanted to go on again and
again and again, but I was sobbing because I was so
terrified that they were going to make me go upside down.
And then I would, I'd die and all the change is going to fall.
Out of my pocket I have like so much.
Change all my pins. I didn't buy the.
Lanyard, but I just got. Loose pins.

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The androids in the film are called AA's, which I don't
remember named after what me. AA Andrew, are we saying our
last? Name.
Yeah, man. An abbreviation for audio
animatronics, which is the lingothat they use in the parks.
OK, like. I said.
The World's Fair, New York World's Fair did include Small

(58:30):
World and the fucking Carousel of Progress.
Yeah, actually, like generally, like we were going to Disney.
Together, which I don't know if we ever would, I would love to
take care of all. I love to show you Carousel
progress. It's one of my favorite rides.
That's cool you. Probably caught this.
I caught this even as a A2 timer.

(58:52):
A Disney Park 2 timer in the back of Tomorrowland Space
Mountain is pretty visible. Yeah, the ride.
It would be funny if it was actually.
If it was a ride, in terms of Tomorrowland, they're like,
yeah, like we got these like sleek buildings and big robots
and it is roller coaster. This one's pretty sweaty.
The upstairs. Bedroom of Frank Walker's house

(59:14):
features purple Haunted Mansion wallpaper that is sweaty.
Jeez Louise, I don't know who caught that.
Remember up towards Creek and the tombstones quake.
And finally, some quick things that are in.
The shop, There's a figure for the Iron Giant.
There's a Mr. Incredible toy, asyou mentioned, and there's also

(59:34):
Simpsons stuff. Yeah, he worked in The Simpsons.
Yeah, it says he was a director and creative.
Consultant for nine years. So that's all I got for the
Disney roundup. Nice.
What kind of slate? Are we looking at for
Tomorrowland big, Slate big? Slate, great slate here.
So some honorable mentions Back to the Future 2 Iron Man 2,

(59:56):
which kind of does a similar like Disney kind of take off OK,
yeah, sure, sure. It's.
I'm remembering. Iron Man. 2 because I've not
thought about the plot of Iron Man 2 for a long time.
What's the freaking? Guy's name?
The Star Expo, John. Slattery John Slattery plays
him, and he's doing a. Full Disney.
Yeah, he's doing Disney. Even as a kid, I was like, oh,

(01:00:16):
it's Disney. Like, I love it.
But for the real slate, I've selected The Rocketeer, which
seems like a spiritual prequel almost.
Yeah. But Joe Johnston, Joe.
Johnston who you know. He's obviously a Disney guy,
started at ILM and did all that stuff and and whatever, whatever

(01:00:39):
else he did. Jurassic Park, right?
But that movie has a. Jetpack, famously.
Famous jetpack famous. Jetpack and also like the
nostalgia. For the kind of retrofuturist
stuff, second pick 1997's Contact.
Oh sure, great movie. Which is a.
Great film. Speaking of Jodie.
Foster Speaking of Jodie Foster.Director of Money.

(01:01:00):
Monster Money. Monster.
Speaking of Zemeckis. Who's also this kind of
Spielberg disciple similar to Brad Bird and obviously having
this kind of female protagonist who does have that wonder, you
know, looking up at the stars and very similar kind of Arc
too. Jodie Foster's character and

(01:01:21):
contact, which is this journey of faith.
And you know, you're not going to know anything.
You're you do have to have hope for the future.
Great film. And the final film I've selected
for the slate is 1964's Fail Safe, directed by Cindy Lumet.
I've not seen it which is. The.

(01:01:43):
Epitome of that Hugh Laurie monologue of like, here it is.
This is as bleak as it gets. Like nuclear destruction.
What are you going to do now? Like, kind of like the end of
Oppenheimer where it's like, youall know where this can lead.

(01:02:04):
Only bad places only. Bad and that movie.
Is so a fucking effective by theend.
Like when the credits start rolling, you want to vomit?
You want to vomit. I had that with Oppenheimer too.
I was like. Was it unrelated to?
The movie or the popcorn? I ate too much popcorn.
A lot of that artificial butter.And by by three.

(01:02:25):
Hours you're like fuck, I feel so sick.
Sorry, this is this is very different, but it's all
videotape. Tom Cruise.
Yeah. Walking into a like, the theater
to do an intro for Mission Impossible.
And there's a guy sitting in theaisle who like, like who ate his
large popcorn already. He eat his large popcorn, who
points at him. He goes, you ate your popcorn
already? And like, for some reason, he's

(01:02:46):
obsessed with popcorn. He says he eats two large tubs
of popcorn every time he watchesa movie.
That's hilarious. He's he's a psycho.
But we. Love him but.
Yeah, that's all I got. Cool.
Now, Sam, it's. Coming to the part of the show
where we give our. Rating on Tomorrowland.
So let's just say you're going to the cabinet.

(01:03:07):
You're trying to figure out whatto watch.
It's only a pin falls out. Yeah, I suddenly remember.
You remember. You hear the bells?
It's. All coming back to me now.
We're like a singing mood today.Yeah, you, you left me there.
At the end, I kind of kept I laid.
You up bro? Whatever.

(01:03:27):
Do you? Pick up this pin, you're
transported to a Blu-ray player.Into a Blu-ray player and you
see the wonders of Tomorrowland.And this Blu-ray of Tomorrowland
that has a pin on it also is showing you a wonderful movie.
Or do you pick it up for the gumwrapper and the fucking and you

(01:03:49):
shove into your? Dad's jacket pocket and he'll
have fun. With it, yeah, probably the.
Latter I think I would. This movie has made me want to
seek out Disney works from the 60s.
It makes me want to seek out theold tapes of Walt himself kind
of pitching Epcot and pitching Tomorrowland.

(01:04:12):
But I don't think I'll, I don't think I'll take this pin up
anytime soon. What about you?
I'm definitely I'm grabbing thatpin.
I'm grabbing that Blu-ray Tomorrowland revisionism starts
now it's back. I like it.
Let Brad Bird out, director of jail.
Let him make the original movie again.
I agree with that. Oh yeah, Freer.

(01:04:34):
Man, but yeah. I thought it was really, really
fun. Like I said, it warmed my heart.
It thrilled me. I was entertained greatly
performances some great action directed a little flat.
It felt like Bradbury was a little bit asleep with the wheel
in terms of direction. I was like, I know you're a
little better than this. Like I said, it has some great
story beats, but overall flat script.

(01:04:55):
But you know, I think that wonder still seeps through and
that and that message truly moved me at the end of the day,
the message was phenomenal. Well, like.
We said next week, Wrinkle in Time.
Yeah. Thanks for listening, everybody.
Thank you. Goodbye everyone.
Bye. See you Tomorrowland.

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