December 7, 2025 • 21 mins
Have you ever built something that looked great on the outside, but didn’t feel right inside?
This episode is about the uncomfortable magic of accidentally pivoting, and finally doing business in a way that feels like you.
This one’s part confession, part clarity bomb. I recorded from a Surf Club storage room, sipping cacao, processing the chaos of scaling back my meds, and admitting something out loud, I’ve accidentally rebranded my business.
You'll hear how a single client session opened the floodgates for doing business differently. Not the shiny, perfectly packaged way… but the messy, deeply human, wildly aligned way. I talk about the pressure to “do all the things”, the cost of leading with people-pleasing, and what it’s looked like to choose my zone of genius over obligation.
If you’re navigating change, burnout, or wondering if you’re allowed to shift gears without burning it all down, this one’s for you. I’m talking scaffolding sessions, real mental health maintenance, and the joy of being seen for your actual self.
Are you listening to your body or just following the plan? DM me on Instagram @sheshonestlymental, I’d love to hear how this one landed for you.
In this episode we cover:
- Recording from the Surf Club Storage Room with actual cacao
- Reducing meds and the messy middle of it
- Laughing more, crying more, and riding the emotional wave
- A big realisation from a conversation with her financial strategist
- Stepping back from a leadership role to protect mental health
- Starting to follow joy, not just responsibility
- Accidentally rebranding the business by helping a friend (now client)
- The shift from coaching to strategic scaffolding sessions
- Doing business differently as a neurodivergent woman
- Wanting to outsource life admin during harvest season
- Dreaming about Haus of Collab and the $400k building
- Realising that seeing people clearly is the real magic
- Invictus Apothecary (discount code: SHMFAM)
- Connect with Corrina on Instagram at @sheshonestlymental
- sheshonestlymental.com.au
- The Messy Middle – free community for offloading
- The Chaos Letters – sign up for raw mental health reflections
- Instagram (co-working): @hausofcollab
- Lifeline: 13 11 14
- Beyond Blue: 1300 22 4636
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Corrina (00:01):
Welcome to She's Honesty Mentor, a podcast for
women who are done pretendingthey're fine when they're
falling apart on the inside.
I'm your host, KarinaRollinson, ADHD Brain, Medicated
Mind, and Proud Mental HealthHospital alumni.
Still here, still showing upsomehow.
This is a space for thefillers, the fixers, and the
(00:24):
ones who carry it all and stillwonder if it's enough.
We talk about the chaos, theconnection, and everything in
between because silence nearlykilled me.
And these conversations savelives.
Alright, cacao in hand,headphones on, chaos
semi-contained.
Let's get honestly mental.
Welcome to another episode ofShe's Honestly Mental, but I
(00:49):
feel like this is it's more likewelcome to another episode of
the In the Surf Club storageroom series.
I don't know.
For me, it's like been reallyfun, and this is just what works
for our family right now istrying to make the podcast
(01:09):
happen wherever we happen.
And today we're coming to youfrom the Esmerits Coulfield Surf
Lifesaving Club Storage Room.
Oh man, I actually really dohave my cacao in hand today,
which is just divine.
And that's the joys of gettingup early, bringing the kids out
to the beach, and just kind ofhaving a space to create, I
(01:31):
suppose.
This week I've been reducing mymedication, and it's not
something that I like to dolightly.
I feel like there's a lot ofjudgment around it, particularly
if my moods go a little bitskew if things don't seem really
settled, if I don't seem to behandling things as well as what
(01:53):
I normally would be.
Of course, the first questionis that my family asks is, have
you been taking medication?
And yeah.
Not properly.
Because sometimes that's whathappens.
And I've noticed a few things,is I've been laughing a lot
(02:14):
more, which is so fun.
I've been on the verge of tearsa bit, but then I've also
remembered that I've got myperiod.
So, you know, there's that.
And I do this with greatcaution because for me, taking
(02:34):
medication has always been aboutquality of life.
It's never been, you know, likeI'm not trying to stop taking
it because I don't want to beputting it in my body.
I don't give a shit about itgoing in my body because having
that medication has beenessential for me to be able to
be here, be now, and be exactlywhere I am.
(02:54):
So yeah, I'm okay with whereI'm at.
I'm being more conscious aboutthings that I'm eating and
exercise and things that I'vecommitted to.
And it was funny because thelast week, and oh my gosh, the
amount of people that arelistening to this, and I know
blah blah blah, people arealways saying, Karina, like why
(03:16):
do you do so much?
And it's just because Iactually can, because I've got
the skills to be able to do alot of the things.
And it was only last week thatVicky, my financial strategist,
was saying to me, Karina, you doall these things, right?
But do you actually need to?
(03:38):
Do you actually like doing it?
And it's tricky because there'sone committee that I'm involved
in, and it's probably been themost the one that's caused me
the most pain the last eight,eight months.
And it's like when I'm in themeeting or when I'm at the
actual place, I really strugglebecause there's people that are
(04:01):
very my way or the highway, andI am the opposite to that.
I mean, I definitely do getvery passionate, and I think
that's something that we've gotto be aware of is that when you
have people in clubs andcommittees, the passion can
sometimes make things a bitheated.
But if you've got the sameclear direction, it makes it a
lot easier.
Like, you know, you make it,you make it work.
(04:23):
And so I'm on the school boardfor my kids' school.
And I think next year I've I'vedone this 12 months as the
chair, and it's been amazing.
But I've also just kind of cometo the realization that I don't
really want to be the chairnext year.
I'm just happy to be a voice.
I don't need to be the one thatdoes all the things.
(04:46):
And instead, kind of like whatI want to be able to do is work
more clearly, kind of on somethe marketing and the branding
and the story that the schoolshares with the public to try
and then help the school getmore funding and assistance for
things that it needs.
And I'm like, that's my talent,that's my school, and that's
(05:07):
the thing that actually bringsme joy.
And so then I don't know whatI'm gonna do about this other
club situation.
It's really tricky because Ireally, really, really do love
it and it's been a part of mylife for a very long time.
But I know that literally fromthe top down with this
(05:30):
organization, that there is someserious leadership issues.
And I have tried to like fix, Isuppose, not fix, but like I've
tried to give suggestionsaround the strategic side of the
bit, like the strategic side ofthe organization, the
compliance side of theorganization.
(05:52):
And I think like there is onlya certain amount of time and
energy that you can put intosomething before you realize
that it's really not working,and you've got to walk away.
But that was the thing for mewas years and years ago, because
I feel like I'm so old, is thatI didn't know where to draw the
line, and now I'm learning.
(06:13):
And I'm not learning at thecost of my mental health
anymore.
So yeah, there's that.
But for me, being at Surf Club,this is like my literal
paradise.
I'm here, it's 10 past six inthe morning.
The view is amazing.
It's incredible.
(06:34):
If you follow me on Instagram,you would know just how
beautiful it is here.
But it's my happy place.
So record this episode,potentially do another one, and
then go for a dip in the ocean.
Warm up with my cacao, and thenshower, head home, and head to
(06:54):
work.
If you've been around for awhile, you already know my
mornings don't start without mycacao.
I've been drinking InvictusApocalypse ceremonial cacao
since 2020.
It's literally been everywherewith me, across Australia, up to
Broome, and even in myinpatient hospital stays.
It's my one little moment ofsacredness each morning, usually
(07:18):
brought to me Made with Love byJared.
Bless him.
The beautiful humans behind it,Jody and Ben, aka the Captain
and the Crew, also run NaturallyEsperance, their gorgeous local
store and dispensary.
They've been part of my worldfor years, and I'm honestly so
grateful for what they'vecreated.
And now they give me a littlesomething for you, my
(07:40):
Cheesonestly Mental fan.
You can get 10% off their 250gram and one kilo cacao in store
and online using the codeSHMFAN, or one word.
Just head toInvictusapochery.com.au or pop
into naturally esperants ifyou're a local.
The last kind of couple ofweeks at work have been
(08:03):
absolutely incredible.
It's been wild.
And I feel like for the firsttime, I am actually me doing
like I can't get the smile offmy face.
I am doing something for me andholy smokes.
And it's not even what I kindof thought.
(08:26):
So a few episodes ago, I wouldhave been speaking about
permission to be human, whichwas a program that I was
building to offer to the worldto work with women around
building foundational supportfor their mental health that
really suits their brain, whichis totally the thing that I
still love doing.
But I've kind of reframed thebusiness accidentally.
(08:49):
It didn't even happen onpurpose.
So my beautiful friend, nowclient, Chrissy, from Grow
Advantage, I had been kind ofwatching her on social media for
a while, as you do, you know,you're fully friends.
And she's got this point withher business where she wanted to
(09:12):
be able to, like, I keptlooking at going, Oh my gosh,
Chrissy, like it'll be so cool.
Like if you split GirlAdvantage off strategy-wise, as
like its own kind of socialmedia stuff, and then you have
you as your own personal brand.
And she messaged me and she'slike, and I hadn't said this to
her, but she messaged me.
She goes, I'm really thinkingabout splitting them.
(09:33):
And I said, Oh my gosh, yes.
Absolutely yes.
I've been thinking this forweeks.
And she goes, Karina, this iswhat you need to be doing with
people.
I was like, okay, all right,all right, okay.
I went through the effort oftrying to launch permission to
be human.
I even was like, let's have afounding five, like first five
(09:54):
members, you get at half price,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
All of this, sell, sell, sell,be this, and be the coach and
have all the pretty things.
And of course, it all camearound.
And then there was likecrickets, literal crickets.
And I didn't listen to myself.
(10:15):
I didn't listen to my body atall the entire time.
Because it was like, why areyou doing this?
Why are you doing this?
This is weird.
This is not with you.
This is not, this doesn't seemright.
And it's a lesson, I suppose,in learning to listen to your
body.
But yeah, I did this sessionwith Chrissy, like where she was
my client.
It felt like playing schools orsomething.
(10:36):
But we've been through andwe've worked through the brand
of building the story behindChrissy L and then the story
behind Girl Advantage, and howwe've got now like a bit of a
more of a strategic plan on howto split these two brands.
But the key thing here is thatI've been able to help Chrissy
do that at a really human, humanlevel.
(10:59):
And I even now I feel like, ohmy gosh, but other people do it
too.
And I'm thinking, but like, whydoes the fuck does it matter?
Why does it matter if otherpeople do it too?
This is the like looking at thebig picture of things, looking
at the strategy of things iswhat makes me froth.
And so then it's kind of thenorganically happened with some
(11:20):
other people that have gotbusinesses that have been
wanting to, you know, get fromthat like startup phase, or
they've been in their businessfor a little while and they're
just needing some clarity aroundthings.
And they don't want to sign upto a massive coaching program.
They don't want to go and spend$20,000 on a coach.
They literally just want towork with someone that can give
them some clarity around it,that understands what it's like
(11:41):
to be neurodiverse, what it'slike to have ADHD, what it's
like to be a creative, but nothave the skills to be able to
build the business up.
And I've been doing that forlike 25 years, my whole entire
life.
My parents have had businessesand I've been able to see from a
distance what works and whatdoesn't work.
And so that's what I've beendoing is these scaffolding
(12:03):
sessions, literally 90 minutes,and helping these creatives and
business owners get their shittogether, like in a way that
suits them.
And it was so cool.
I had one yesterday with a ladywho's over in Melbourne.
She's an amazing artist,writer.
The stuff that she's showingme, I'm like, far out woman.
(12:23):
I'm like, let's get yourpublishing deal, let's get your
social media sorted, like, let'sdo all these things.
And she goes, This is the firsttime anyone's actually been
able to see me.
And yeah, it's so freakingcool.
It's so, so cool.
So I wanted to just say toevery person that's ever sent me
(12:44):
a message after listening tothe podcast or seeing something
on my social media, to thepeople that have stopped me in
the street, thank you so muchbecause you're the reasons why I
keep going.
So cool.
So yeah, I've done this fullkind of I hate it when people
like a full 360, I've done likea 180 where I've gone from
(13:08):
focusing on how to be a coach,instead I'm more around how to
be a person that sees people andI'm doing what works for me.
And I'm so annoyed becauseJared goes to me, he's like,
Yeah, obviously, Karina, this iswhat you're supposed to be
doing.
This is what you're really goodat is business operations and
strategy and marketing.
(13:29):
Obviously.
And so I said to him, Well, whydidn't you say this to me
earlier?
And he goes, Well, when you'rein a mood, I can't talk to you.
Oh, right oh.
So harvest we've had rain herethis last week, and harvest has
(13:49):
slowed, which means Jared hasbeen home.
Annoying for the farmers forsure, because they're now
waiting to get this crop off andit's too wet, and it's less
money in the bank for them.
But it's meant that we've beenable to sit down and just kind
of recalibrate, reset, sort ourlives back out, kind of thing.
(14:12):
And it's been nice and it'sbeen really settling because
harvest just grinds my gears somuch.
People don't understand thatfor us, we start when the first
person starts harvesting and wefinish when the last person
finishes harvesting.
So it's a really long period oftime to have our family so
(14:34):
disjointed.
And I'm grateful for it.
Don't get me wrong, because itdefinitely pays the bills.
But it's something that I knownext year going into harvest
that I'm gonna be even moreorganized because there is no
way that my husband's not goingto be doing it.
It's just not a thing.
So I really want to find ahousekeeper, someone that can
(14:59):
just come around and help tidythings up in the mornings for
me.
And those kind of things, likeoutsourcing those kind of
things, I would rather dobecause then I can go and A,
they don't light me up.
I know that they're chores, butB, because I know that I can go
and do the things that reallylight me up.
And in this day and age, thethings that light me up also
(15:20):
happen to make me some dollars.
I see that often, especially inbusinesses and that kind of
stuff, where people are so tieddown having to do all the little
things that if you were tooutsource them, you could
actually A, go and have morefun, and B bring more income in.
(15:41):
I know what I'd rather do.
Not do the dishes.
We're almost at the end.
Uh no we've got a few clientsthat have said 10 days of
beautiful sunshine and they'llbe pretty much done.
But we've also just had fivedays of rain, so that's been a
whole other situation.
(16:02):
I would say there's stillprobably another three weeks,
which means most people will befinishing just before Christmas,
which is ideal because we liketo get to Christmas.
Most people are done, and thenwe can go on break.
Bring it on, sister.
So there's been some littledevelopments with my co-working
(16:22):
space.
House of Collab.
Interesting because I've put itout there publicly.
So if you are in Esperance andyou're looking for a co-working
networking space, please followHouse of Collab on Insta.
It's H-A-U-S.
Because you know, fancy.
There's a little form on mysocials that you can fill out to
(16:43):
give me some more informationabout what you actually need.
But I was looking at a littlespace and it was really small.
It's about 48 square meters.
And so I could do the hot desksetup, but then I wouldn't be
able to have my podcastingstudio.
Turns out there's actually anamazing place already here in
(17:04):
Esperance.
It's not for lease, it's forsale, but it's got recording
studios in it, it's got officesin it, it's already got space in
there where you can hot desk.
But somehow I need to find$400,000.
So if you wanted to make adonation now, I've got some
ideas, but I need to get thedata first and actually see if
(17:25):
it's something that I can pulloff, which I have no doubt it is
that I can, but I've learnedthese days not to do the whole
ADHD fully commit to things,unless it's actually a for sure
thing.
So that's why I love workingwith Vicky because I'll message
her and be, hey, this littleprogram's come up, or this is
(17:46):
whatever, and she'll go, No,Corina, that is actually a
really smart strategic thing tospend your money on.
Or I see a little bright,shiny, sparkly ADHD stuff going
on here.
And Corinna, I really don'tthink that's a smart movie right
now.
So it's actually really funhaving someone in my corner
that's saying, hey, yes, andactually no.
(18:09):
And then I think Jared reallyloves it too because he knows
that I'm not just wastingdollars on different bright,
shiny things.
So what I've realized when itcomes to my capacity is that
I've been doing this work withother people around seeing their
whole entire picture, theirbrand, their business, and
whatnot.
(18:30):
And it's when I've realizedthat me trying to stretch myself
with permission to be human,then with also the messy middle,
and then with also the chaosletters, and then showing up on
social media, showing up onInstagram, showing up on TikTok,
showing up on the podcast.
It's like, how far do I want tostretch myself?
And so I've decided that themessy middle is going on pause.
(18:52):
The chaos letters are beingrebranded to notes from the
middle.
I'm just gonna focus on thepodcast, and that's about it,
really.
Because this is my favorite,this is my actual favorite thing
and how to show up.
So that's some things that I'vereally noticed, and I think
(19:14):
whether that's gotta come downto by reducing some of my
medication, it's taking away theI always really want to say
like it's as if having a cast onyour like a whole leg cast,
right?
When you're taking a reallyhigh dose of medication.
And so now that I've reducedit, it's instead of being a
(19:39):
whole leg cast, it's just belowthe knee.
So I've got the movement of theknee.
So I feel like my brain has nowgot a little bit more movement
in it that it's been able torealize that okay, doing all of
these things isn't actuallynecessary.
Yeah, it's been a week, it'sbeen hectic and And I'm actually
(20:00):
really excited because the nextepisode is going to be around
the anniversary of my firstadmission into the mental health
facility.
So thanks for listening.
Thanks for tuning in.
I am again so grateful.
And if any of this hasresonated, please reach out to
me, send me a message on socialmedia, drop a comment, or
(20:22):
whatever.
I really, really don't thinkyou guys understand just how
much this means to me.
Thanks for hanging out with meon She's Honestly Mental.
If today's episode cracked opensomething inside of you or gave
you space to exhale, come sayhi over at Instagram at She's
Honestly Mental.
(20:43):
Or send this to someone whoneeds to hear that they're not
alone.
And if you haven't yet, hitthat follow button so the next
episode lands in your messy feedright where it belongs.
Until next time, take care ofyour brain.
You're not broken, you're justhonestly mental.
And all the best people are.
Welcome to She's Honesty Mentor, a podcast for
women who are done pretendingthey're fine when they're
falling apart on the inside.
I'm your host, KarinaRollinson, ADHD Brain, Medicated
Mind, and Proud Mental HealthHospital alumni.
Still here, still showing upsomehow.
This is a space for thefillers, the fixers, and the
(00:24):
ones who carry it all and stillwonder if it's enough.
We talk about the chaos, theconnection, and everything in
between because silence nearlykilled me.
And these conversations savelives.
Alright, cacao in hand,headphones on, chaos
semi-contained.
Let's get honestly mental.
Welcome to another episode ofShe's Honestly Mental, but I
(00:49):
feel like this is it's more likewelcome to another episode of
the In the Surf Club storageroom series.
I don't know.
For me, it's like been reallyfun, and this is just what works
for our family right now istrying to make the podcast
(01:09):
happen wherever we happen.
And today we're coming to youfrom the Esmerits Coulfield Surf
Lifesaving Club Storage Room.
Oh man, I actually really dohave my cacao in hand today,
which is just divine.
And that's the joys of gettingup early, bringing the kids out
to the beach, and just kind ofhaving a space to create, I
(01:31):
suppose.
This week I've been reducing mymedication, and it's not
something that I like to dolightly.
I feel like there's a lot ofjudgment around it, particularly
if my moods go a little bitskew if things don't seem really
settled, if I don't seem to behandling things as well as what
(01:53):
I normally would be.
Of course, the first questionis that my family asks is, have
you been taking medication?
And yeah.
Not properly.
Because sometimes that's whathappens.
And I've noticed a few things,is I've been laughing a lot
(02:14):
more, which is so fun.
I've been on the verge of tearsa bit, but then I've also
remembered that I've got myperiod.
So, you know, there's that.
And I do this with greatcaution because for me, taking
(02:34):
medication has always been aboutquality of life.
It's never been, you know, likeI'm not trying to stop taking
it because I don't want to beputting it in my body.
I don't give a shit about itgoing in my body because having
that medication has beenessential for me to be able to
be here, be now, and be exactlywhere I am.
(02:54):
So yeah, I'm okay with whereI'm at.
I'm being more conscious aboutthings that I'm eating and
exercise and things that I'vecommitted to.
And it was funny because thelast week, and oh my gosh, the
amount of people that arelistening to this, and I know
blah blah blah, people arealways saying, Karina, like why
(03:16):
do you do so much?
And it's just because Iactually can, because I've got
the skills to be able to do alot of the things.
And it was only last week thatVicky, my financial strategist,
was saying to me, Karina, you doall these things, right?
But do you actually need to?
(03:38):
Do you actually like doing it?
And it's tricky because there'sone committee that I'm involved
in, and it's probably been themost the one that's caused me
the most pain the last eight,eight months.
And it's like when I'm in themeeting or when I'm at the
actual place, I really strugglebecause there's people that are
(04:01):
very my way or the highway, andI am the opposite to that.
I mean, I definitely do getvery passionate, and I think
that's something that we've gotto be aware of is that when you
have people in clubs andcommittees, the passion can
sometimes make things a bitheated.
But if you've got the sameclear direction, it makes it a
lot easier.
Like, you know, you make it,you make it work.
(04:23):
And so I'm on the school boardfor my kids' school.
And I think next year I've I'vedone this 12 months as the
chair, and it's been amazing.
But I've also just kind of cometo the realization that I don't
really want to be the chairnext year.
I'm just happy to be a voice.
I don't need to be the one thatdoes all the things.
(04:46):
And instead, kind of like whatI want to be able to do is work
more clearly, kind of on somethe marketing and the branding
and the story that the schoolshares with the public to try
and then help the school getmore funding and assistance for
things that it needs.
And I'm like, that's my talent,that's my school, and that's
(05:07):
the thing that actually bringsme joy.
And so then I don't know whatI'm gonna do about this other
club situation.
It's really tricky because Ireally, really, really do love
it and it's been a part of mylife for a very long time.
But I know that literally fromthe top down with this
(05:30):
organization, that there is someserious leadership issues.
And I have tried to like fix, Isuppose, not fix, but like I've
tried to give suggestionsaround the strategic side of the
bit, like the strategic side ofthe organization, the
compliance side of theorganization.
(05:52):
And I think like there is onlya certain amount of time and
energy that you can put intosomething before you realize
that it's really not working,and you've got to walk away.
But that was the thing for mewas years and years ago, because
I feel like I'm so old, is thatI didn't know where to draw the
line, and now I'm learning.
(06:13):
And I'm not learning at thecost of my mental health
anymore.
So yeah, there's that.
But for me, being at Surf Club,this is like my literal
paradise.
I'm here, it's 10 past six inthe morning.
The view is amazing.
It's incredible.
(06:34):
If you follow me on Instagram,you would know just how
beautiful it is here.
But it's my happy place.
So record this episode,potentially do another one, and
then go for a dip in the ocean.
Warm up with my cacao, and thenshower, head home, and head to
(06:54):
work.
If you've been around for awhile, you already know my
mornings don't start without mycacao.
I've been drinking InvictusApocalypse ceremonial cacao
since 2020.
It's literally been everywherewith me, across Australia, up to
Broome, and even in myinpatient hospital stays.
It's my one little moment ofsacredness each morning, usually
(07:18):
brought to me Made with Love byJared.
Bless him.
The beautiful humans behind it,Jody and Ben, aka the Captain
and the Crew, also run NaturallyEsperance, their gorgeous local
store and dispensary.
They've been part of my worldfor years, and I'm honestly so
grateful for what they'vecreated.
And now they give me a littlesomething for you, my
(07:40):
Cheesonestly Mental fan.
You can get 10% off their 250gram and one kilo cacao in store
and online using the codeSHMFAN, or one word.
Just head toInvictusapochery.com.au or pop
into naturally esperants ifyou're a local.
The last kind of couple ofweeks at work have been
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absolutely incredible.
It's been wild.
And I feel like for the firsttime, I am actually me doing
like I can't get the smile offmy face.
I am doing something for me andholy smokes.
And it's not even what I kindof thought.
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So a few episodes ago, I wouldhave been speaking about
permission to be human, whichwas a program that I was
building to offer to the worldto work with women around
building foundational supportfor their mental health that
really suits their brain, whichis totally the thing that I
still love doing.
But I've kind of reframed thebusiness accidentally.
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It didn't even happen onpurpose.
So my beautiful friend, nowclient, Chrissy, from Grow
Advantage, I had been kind ofwatching her on social media for
a while, as you do, you know,you're fully friends.
And she's got this point withher business where she wanted to
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be able to, like, I keptlooking at going, Oh my gosh,
Chrissy, like it'll be so cool.
Like if you split GirlAdvantage off strategy-wise, as
like its own kind of socialmedia stuff, and then you have
you as your own personal brand.
And she messaged me and she'slike, and I hadn't said this to
her, but she messaged me.
She goes, I'm really thinkingabout splitting them.
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And I said, Oh my gosh, yes.
Absolutely yes.
I've been thinking this forweeks.
And she goes, Karina, this iswhat you need to be doing with
people.
I was like, okay, all right,all right, okay.
I went through the effort oftrying to launch permission to
be human.
I even was like, let's have afounding five, like first five
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members, you get at half price,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
All of this, sell, sell, sell,be this, and be the coach and
have all the pretty things.
And of course, it all camearound.
And then there was likecrickets, literal crickets.
And I didn't listen to myself.
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I didn't listen to my body atall the entire time.
Because it was like, why areyou doing this?
Why are you doing this?
This is weird.
This is not with you.
This is not, this doesn't seemright.
And it's a lesson, I suppose,in learning to listen to your
body.
But yeah, I did this sessionwith Chrissy, like where she was
my client.
It felt like playing schools orsomething.
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But we've been through andwe've worked through the brand
of building the story behindChrissy L and then the story
behind Girl Advantage, and howwe've got now like a bit of a
more of a strategic plan on howto split these two brands.
But the key thing here is thatI've been able to help Chrissy
do that at a really human, humanlevel.
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And I even now I feel like, ohmy gosh, but other people do it
too.
And I'm thinking, but like, whydoes the fuck does it matter?
Why does it matter if otherpeople do it too?
This is the like looking at thebig picture of things, looking
at the strategy of things iswhat makes me froth.
And so then it's kind of thenorganically happened with some
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other people that have gotbusinesses that have been
wanting to, you know, get fromthat like startup phase, or
they've been in their businessfor a little while and they're
just needing some clarity aroundthings.
And they don't want to sign upto a massive coaching program.
They don't want to go and spend$20,000 on a coach.
They literally just want towork with someone that can give
them some clarity around it,that understands what it's like
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to be neurodiverse, what it'slike to have ADHD, what it's
like to be a creative, but nothave the skills to be able to
build the business up.
And I've been doing that forlike 25 years, my whole entire
life.
My parents have had businessesand I've been able to see from a
distance what works and whatdoesn't work.
And so that's what I've beendoing is these scaffolding
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sessions, literally 90 minutes,and helping these creatives and
business owners get their shittogether, like in a way that
suits them.
And it was so cool.
I had one yesterday with a ladywho's over in Melbourne.
She's an amazing artist,writer.
The stuff that she's showingme, I'm like, far out woman.
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I'm like, let's get yourpublishing deal, let's get your
social media sorted, like, let'sdo all these things.
And she goes, This is the firsttime anyone's actually been
able to see me.
And yeah, it's so freakingcool.
It's so, so cool.
So I wanted to just say toevery person that's ever sent me
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a message after listening tothe podcast or seeing something
on my social media, to thepeople that have stopped me in
the street, thank you so muchbecause you're the reasons why I
keep going.
So cool.
So yeah, I've done this fullkind of I hate it when people
like a full 360, I've done likea 180 where I've gone from
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focusing on how to be a coach,instead I'm more around how to
be a person that sees people andI'm doing what works for me.
And I'm so annoyed becauseJared goes to me, he's like,
Yeah, obviously, Karina, this iswhat you're supposed to be
doing.
This is what you're really goodat is business operations and
strategy and marketing.
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Obviously.
And so I said to him, Well, whydidn't you say this to me
earlier?
And he goes, Well, when you'rein a mood, I can't talk to you.
Oh, right oh.
So harvest we've had rain herethis last week, and harvest has
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slowed, which means Jared hasbeen home.
Annoying for the farmers forsure, because they're now
waiting to get this crop off andit's too wet, and it's less
money in the bank for them.
But it's meant that we've beenable to sit down and just kind
of recalibrate, reset, sort ourlives back out, kind of thing.
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And it's been nice and it'sbeen really settling because
harvest just grinds my gears somuch.
People don't understand thatfor us, we start when the first
person starts harvesting and wefinish when the last person
finishes harvesting.
So it's a really long period oftime to have our family so
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disjointed.
And I'm grateful for it.
Don't get me wrong, because itdefinitely pays the bills.
But it's something that I knownext year going into harvest
that I'm gonna be even moreorganized because there is no
way that my husband's not goingto be doing it.
It's just not a thing.
So I really want to find ahousekeeper, someone that can
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just come around and help tidythings up in the mornings for
me.
And those kind of things, likeoutsourcing those kind of
things, I would rather dobecause then I can go and A,
they don't light me up.
I know that they're chores, butB, because I know that I can go
and do the things that reallylight me up.
And in this day and age, thethings that light me up also
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happen to make me some dollars.
I see that often, especially inbusinesses and that kind of
stuff, where people are so tieddown having to do all the little
things that if you were tooutsource them, you could
actually A, go and have morefun, and B bring more income in.
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I know what I'd rather do.
Not do the dishes.
We're almost at the end.
Uh no we've got a few clientsthat have said 10 days of
beautiful sunshine and they'llbe pretty much done.
But we've also just had fivedays of rain, so that's been a
whole other situation.
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I would say there's stillprobably another three weeks,
which means most people will befinishing just before Christmas,
which is ideal because we liketo get to Christmas.
Most people are done, and thenwe can go on break.
Bring it on, sister.
So there's been some littledevelopments with my co-working
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space.
House of Collab.
Interesting because I've put itout there publicly.
So if you are in Esperance andyou're looking for a co-working
networking space, please followHouse of Collab on Insta.
It's H-A-U-S.
Because you know, fancy.
There's a little form on mysocials that you can fill out to
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give me some more informationabout what you actually need.
But I was looking at a littlespace and it was really small.
It's about 48 square meters.
And so I could do the hot desksetup, but then I wouldn't be
able to have my podcastingstudio.
Turns out there's actually anamazing place already here in
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Esperance.
It's not for lease, it's forsale, but it's got recording
studios in it, it's got officesin it, it's already got space in
there where you can hot desk.
But somehow I need to find$400,000.
So if you wanted to make adonation now, I've got some
ideas, but I need to get thedata first and actually see if
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it's something that I can pulloff, which I have no doubt it is
that I can, but I've learnedthese days not to do the whole
ADHD fully commit to things,unless it's actually a for sure
thing.
So that's why I love workingwith Vicky because I'll message
her and be, hey, this littleprogram's come up, or this is
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whatever, and she'll go, No,Corina, that is actually a
really smart strategic thing tospend your money on.
Or I see a little bright,shiny, sparkly ADHD stuff going
on here.
And Corinna, I really don'tthink that's a smart movie right
now.
So it's actually really funhaving someone in my corner
that's saying, hey, yes, andactually no.
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And then I think Jared reallyloves it too because he knows
that I'm not just wastingdollars on different bright,
shiny things.
So what I've realized when itcomes to my capacity is that
I've been doing this work withother people around seeing their
whole entire picture, theirbrand, their business, and
whatnot.
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And it's when I've realizedthat me trying to stretch myself
with permission to be human,then with also the messy middle,
and then with also the chaosletters, and then showing up on
social media, showing up onInstagram, showing up on TikTok,
showing up on the podcast.
It's like, how far do I want tostretch myself?
And so I've decided that themessy middle is going on pause.
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The chaos letters are beingrebranded to notes from the
middle.
I'm just gonna focus on thepodcast, and that's about it,
really.
Because this is my favorite,this is my actual favorite thing
and how to show up.
So that's some things that I'vereally noticed, and I think
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whether that's gotta come downto by reducing some of my
medication, it's taking away theI always really want to say
like it's as if having a cast onyour like a whole leg cast,
right?
When you're taking a reallyhigh dose of medication.
And so now that I've reducedit, it's instead of being a
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whole leg cast, it's just belowthe knee.
So I've got the movement of theknee.
So I feel like my brain has nowgot a little bit more movement
in it that it's been able torealize that okay, doing all of
these things isn't actuallynecessary.
Yeah, it's been a week, it'sbeen hectic and And I'm actually
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really excited because the nextepisode is going to be around
the anniversary of my firstadmission into the mental health
facility.
So thanks for listening.
Thanks for tuning in.
I am again so grateful.
And if any of this hasresonated, please reach out to
me, send me a message on socialmedia, drop a comment, or
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whatever.
I really, really don't thinkyou guys understand just how
much this means to me.
Thanks for hanging out with meon She's Honestly Mental.
If today's episode cracked opensomething inside of you or gave
you space to exhale, come sayhi over at Instagram at She's
Honestly Mental.
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Or send this to someone whoneeds to hear that they're not
alone.
And if you haven't yet, hitthat follow button so the next
episode lands in your messy feedright where it belongs.
Until next time, take care ofyour brain.
You're not broken, you're justhonestly mental.
And all the best people are.
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