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November 4, 2025 39 mins

There is a noticeable discussion of Christian Nationalism in popular culture. Is its growing influence actually undermining democracy? 

In this episode, Samuel Perry reveals the surprising relationship between capitalism and Christianity; Jack Delehanty identifies how the church gives working people more than just a sermon on Sundays; and a former Evangelical speaks about the impact of political preaching. You’ll also hear from Jeanné Lewis, a Christian faith leader working to counter the influence of Christian Nationalism, who speaks candidly about how her faith is in direct opposition with much of the rhetoric swirling around the Church today.

Samuel Perry: The Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy; Religion for Realists: Why We All Need the Scientific Study of Religion

Jack Delehanty: Making Moral Citizens: How Faith-Based Organizers Use Vocation for Public Action

Jeanné Lewis: Faith in Public Life


Executive Producers: Rachel Rybaczuk and Amanda Cowper

Audio Mixing: Tina Tobey Mack

Music: BlueDot Sessions and Epidemic Sound


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