June 12, 2025 • 41 mins
My Dear Shiny Minds, get ready for a story that will light up your neurons!
In Episode 24, I’m joined by Gabriele Hirsch—our most experienced Neuro-Shine Technology™ Faculty Trainer and a powerhouse of transformation.
Credentials that back her brilliance:
✨Certified Professional Neuro-Shine Technology™ Coach (Academy of Neuro-Shine Technology™)
✨ICF Associate Certified Coach (ACC)
✨ICF Member (since Jan 2022)
From self-doubt in Germany to global impact, Gabriele’s journey is proof that when you say YES to your transformation, the universe meets you halfway.
In this episode, we dive into:✨ How Gabriele turned uncertainty into unstoppable confidence
✨ The power of coaching, community, and cosmic connection
✨ What it really takes to become an enlightened, transformational leader
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oh my goodness shininess
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welcome back to the Shiny Minds show
I have Gabrielle Hirsch are you ready to shine
come on it's the shiny one
you got this welcome to the Shiny Minds show
you are my it's heard shine of mine on this show
and actually you are the one who is super special
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because you have the most experience
in the Academy of Neuroshine
Technology faculty all of our audience watching
they're wondering how we met
how this story began and what happened in the universe
for our forces to come together
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and then just to do whatever we're doing right now
so can you please share our story
I can of course
well first of all
thank you so much for having me on the show
this is exciting
very exciting yeah
how did we met
that was like literally the universe coming together
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for sure
stars I'm aligning
I was at the time working with a mutual friend of ours
and I knew from her that she did courses with you
and that got me curious so of course
I looked up shiny
and I got to know everything about you
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and after a long conversation with myself
I reached out to you and I remember these conversations
so so so
so so well
me too and I just knew I had to be in your course
and in your program and um
do this and be made at work
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even though I thought I couldn't hmm yes
I know all kinds of things that everybody goes through
right yeah
absolutely all the hesitations
can can you share what those hesitations were
well it was a lot around can I finish things
can I make it work can I make it work financially
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how do I do this how can I fit it in everything
and at the time I was really not in a good place
like there was so many things going on health wise
financially emotionally mentally
it was just real a tough time
and it was also a new beginning
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truly a new beginning yeah
yeah indeed indeed
I also remember I do remember
what year was that January
yeah January 21
I did my first level 1 like at that time
it was not level one yeah it wasn't even level 1
it wasn't it was in the works
it was the vitamin C of the level 1
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yes
exactly
you're actually in my pilot cohort
that's true yeah
yes yes
my pilot cohort to receive the ICF accreditation
for my neuroshine technology program
this is what we're talking about
by the way for everybody who's watching
like what are we talking about
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we're talking about Gabrielle joining my online program
obviously I was back in LA at that time
and then she was in Germany
and she's joining an online virtual program
which was not even ICF accredited fully back then yet
it was accredited as a CC
continuing coaching education program
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but not as a fully level 1 or level 2 program
and she actually joined the pilot program
so that I could actually get the approval
and she actually put a ton of trust in me
so may I please share my gratitude
and my appreciation with you Gabrielle
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thank you back to you
likewise no
truly because I think this is what connects us
we had this connection and this trust in each other
from the get go really yeah
it it was super instant it was a cosmic
galactic connection that I will always cherish
and so Jolene if you're watching
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we want to thank you for this connection
yes we definitely appreciate you putting us together
absolutely and then so what happened after that
Gabrielle that January 2021
and then now we are in June 2,025
oh wow
yeah June 2025
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I think I can I can fairly confidently say that
I might have only missed a handful of trainings
if any so since then
I was like literally hooked on the content
on the people and I joined and Learned
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I was an observer as an observer
I got my a C C I C
F accreditation and became part of the faculty
and I'm a faculty trainer
hahaha she is a faculty
she's not only a faculty trainer
she is the one with the most experience
obviously because she started from the beginning
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and that's why
that holds a super special place in my heart
and she is right about that
I remember seeing you Gabrielle
in every single cohort
you would just show up with unwavering commitment
and support and love
to give back to contribute
to support everybody who is ungetting goosebumps
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who's going through the journey
you would get emotional
we would cry sometimes at the end
that's true
that is very true because yeah
if you are watching
and if you wanna join any of those cool hordes yes
this is what you're gonna get
you're gonna get a ton of love
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and you're gonna be just cheered on
and loved for the whole world
and back it's amazing
and it is gonna be an emotional ride
mm hmm oh yeah
we transform we fight out with love
yeah
we we
we just turn on the light on whatever
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like you don't have the light on
and together we work on them
and so now I wanna ask you Gabrielle
when you first joined as a student
as a student OK
not your faculty
so for anybody who's watching who are thinking like
what is this program why should I join
and what is the outcome
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what did Gabrielle get out of it
what would you tell them for me
the biggest outcome
and the biggest gift was really confidence
I grew so much in that program and transformed
that's for me like a the biggest gift
the confidence that I gained
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the the feeling of yes
I can do this
and seeing myself in a completely different light
and perspective
and having this this group around you
that is going through it all together
you are getting free coaching
with each and every person right
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I mean you are growing
you really are and that is so
so so beautiful
and to me the confidence at the point
at this stage when I started
was the biggest thing to really start a new beginning
and really believe that I can build a business from it
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well that that is priceless to gain yeah
it's rocket it's just yeah
rocket rockets to the sky
absolutely yeah
that's also something that I
I tell everybody
that is kind of like a hidden benefit of the program
when you join an online program
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you know that there's a structure
you know that you're gonna go through
some of the step by step curriculum
that was designed by the creator of the program
and you wouldn't necessarily think about what it
what else is going on yeah
that is something that is super important
perhaps
one of the biggest benefits is what you mentioned
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is what goes on in the breakout rooms
when you are actually practicing what you are learning
and then you are honing your skills
your coaching skills in a breakout room
with other people joining from all around the world
you're actually getting free coaching
you get to bring your agendas
and you get to talk about them and release them right
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so that also gives you connection with others
in the program you get to know connect with them right
that's absolutely and you build friendships
you know you build friendships for life um
with those connections and it's
it's just amazing
the mindset shifts that happen for all the people
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so that's actually a question I would have for you
shiny if I may
go ahead please
what would you say are the two biggest mindset shifts
hmm
sets coaches apart from each other
I believe
there are very different ways to look at mindset
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if you look at mindset as a skill
versus
if you look at mindset as a state of consciousness
so skill is a toolbox that you still need to practice
perform and that is something that you reach out
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and then you grab it and you use a skill
until it becomes a state of consciousness
that you don't even need to think about anymore
so that you can forget it
and then your consciousness handles that
so if I look at mindset
from the perspective of skill versus
state of consciousness
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what we achieve in our program
in our Neuro Shine technology program
our coaches
if they are really brutally honest with themselves
they can walk away with a deeply
elevated state of consciousness
which I call enlightenment as you know
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and not everybody actually gets there
we see it right there are also some others
they also walk away with a mindset full of skills
like so many beautiful skills for a lifetime
and those coaches are going to
become their best versions
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in time so the ones with the skills
they still need time to integrate
and some of them they come ready
and then they go through the program
11 weeks or 15 weeks or 15 times 2:30
then they're like okay
now
I do have a certainly different state of consciousness
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and then I
I walk away as an enlightened transformational leader
oh beautiful life goosebumps right
oh yeah
so so so amazing oh my gosh
thank you that's what I thought
I mean the the the worst case scenario
you're gonna walk away with a lifetime skills
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yeah of your mindset
and there are gonna be lifetime skills that as you know
Gabrielle you experienced yourself
that you're gonna actually use and practice
and utilize in all kinds of areas of your life
that's so beautiful
yeah enlightened transformational readers
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that's that's what we generate
ha ha that's a
that's a co creation
that we do together with our students actually
so now I within that line
I have a question for you
for your level of consciousness
for where you are in your life right now
if you were to look back
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what was the most surprising takeaway from the program
that you didn't even think about
like it was beyond your comprehension
I would say for me again
coming a little bit back to what I
at the said at the beginning
starting with that confidence
mm hmm and the belief of I can actually do this
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and there's there's more it
it confirmed to me and I think this is like the
the depth of where I wanna go
it confirmed to me what coaching really is
as it completed me in a way that I was longing for
for a long time and actually
the ability to give that back
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and share that with the world
really the sense of yes
we are all whole
we are all complete we are resourceful
that was I mean
I get goosebumps all over me at when I say this yeah
being able to give that back to the world
and I remember why this is so
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was so surprising to me was that I
I never dared to go there
and I trusted
and did something that I probably would have never
ever done like a year before right
that's like the moment where
you know how they say you just have to jump yeah
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that's what I did yeah
that's what I did yeah
I remember I was like come real then let's do this
that's what I did
and that was like things coming into place
now I have a business yeah
I am part of the faculty I teach this content
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I help and support women that's like for me
oh my gosh yeah
that's a dream come true the confirmation that
there's more than we can see in this world right
oh god
our galactic universe as you like to say
yeah exactly
going galactic going galactic
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and this was like for me really the
the most surprising and most deepening transformation
delicious delicious hahaha
obviously you had it in you
it just needed to be activated
if you didn't have it then you wouldn't have it right
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so yes it's the same for everybody
and that's why obviously
we are both passionate about this work
you have it all within you
unless you activate it it's just going to keep sleeping
okay you want to just rise from your ashes
and you just need to wake up
and you need to just give it
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give yourself a chance and that's
that's what happens you
you go beyond your own your own dreams
so I mean
when I look at what I am doing right now
I'm like okay
I just wanted to be free and hahaha
I wanted to do whatever I wanted to do
and then I didn't think about
you know
having this global faculty and a global business
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it just it just
it just flows through you
when you just say to the universe hey
I'm in sign me up for this mission
hashtag on a mission
that was one of my hashtags as you saw in yeah
right when I have this like hashtag on a mission okay
this feels like a mission
and it is fun
I get to do this like this is so fun
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when I raise my hand the universe is like okay
we're just gonna use you as a portal
and then we're just gonna like
go through you because you're the channel now
and then we're gonna use whatever
the message that we have through you
and then you just do whatever you just surrender
it's such a beautiful journey
yeah and experience so as you as you mentioned
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surprising
after all these years that you've done this work now
and you continue doing this work
mm hmm
what was like for you
the key moment that surprised you most in this journey
I have so many which one to choose from
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I believe I can start with the first one
because that is going to resonate with everybody
else who is watching our conversation
or listening to our conversation
when I hit my six figures and it was only one contract
that that just blew blew my mind
I was like what this this is this is possible really
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I just was like shaken by surprise
and it was also a great confirmation again
from the universe that hey
hey kid you're on the right track
you're actually making a difference
and that's another way of making money
and that's possible
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and that was the first surprise for me
the second surprise was when I kept receiving awards
like years after years like I was like
what like in 2,017
I was chosen as one of the most influential Turkish
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American living in the US
Turkish American author speaker
trainer in my own category
because there's so many categories
and I then was awarded as the Global Entrepreneur
Global Woman Entrepreneur
and last year as you know now as well
I was also awarded as a Distinguished Coach
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Educator by the International Coaching Federation
ICF itself
and like those are like very amazing surprises and
great confirmations
and then reaching out to a whole globe
like we are now more than in 50 countries Gabrielle
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it's it's real and like how surprising is that
like did I ever dream about that
that was I really wanted to
I remember when I just like
when I burned my bridges back in Istanbul
with my corporate world
I just needed to go deep within myself
I just wanted to find out my own truth
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I just wanted to do something with myself
I just didn't know myself
I didn't know what I liked what I didn't like
I was just programmed I was automated
I just needed that time to go deep within myself
and get to know myself searching for my truth
searching for my purpose and if you are that person
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dear shiny minds who are watching this conversation
please know that
if you are feeling that call within you
that calling there is a reason for that
your higher self is actually whispering to you
and you need to pay attention to that voice within you
if you don't
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it's just gonna fade away and it's gonna not be heard
and even those voices within you
they want to be heard they wanna feel safe
seen heard
appreciated just like us as human beings
you know
those voices are you know some entities as well
and so coming from that kind of background
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and that kind of like I just wanna be free
I just wanna know myself
and then now I am in more than 50 countries
I'm touching lives like literally
like transforming people inside out
and giving them not only beautiful transformations
but a purpose and a business to make money
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to change lives like really
I'm good hahaha
that is so so so so so beautiful
and this is really also something that I admire you
so far the cohorts that you put together
the people that you bring together in those cohorts
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from literally all over the world
I mean we had Kenya in our last co ward right yes
yes I mean
this is amazing this is really
really amazing yeah
yeah it really goes beyond anything
that I could have ever imagined
like wildest dreams and I am
I'm living it
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and it is it has become my everyday reality
how is that possible it just starts with one step
just one step when you take to one one right next step
it just ha ha ha is a great starter
and that's that's what happens
you have been teaching for so many years
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within my faculty you have been holding the space
and supporting a ton of people
and obviously growing as well
as you have been providing support
my question now is what is the concept
I'm looking for a concept around your growth
if you can elaborate on it
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what kind of a concept when I mean concept is
is that spiritual is that mental
is it mostly emotional or is it mostly about um
sophistication metaphysical
like
what is the concept for your growth has been so far
I would say my growth was conceptually a lot
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really mentally and emotionally
hmm to really figure out in how to be there
hold the space in the loving way
and give and still keep my boundaries
that was a really really big one because you know me
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hahaha
that's a good one you know me
and that was like a
a big learning for me that it is possible to you know
do that in a loving way
and still stay healthy and keep your boundaries
and that was I would say that was really the biggest
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yeah I would really say that was the biggest
I can actually second you on that one
because I have also experienced
that kind of growth within myself
I mean I'm a Pisces and a double Pisces
and my my south node even Pisces
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if you are familiar with it in astrological terms
and like I give
I over give I over deliver
I over please I
I do a lot mm hmm
so that has been also a pattern
also coming from my own childhood wound with my father
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how I had to learn to please
like to become a people pleaser
and this work taught me how to shed the layers of those
people pleasing yeah
and unlearn the conditioning around people pleasing
why are we doing it because I'm not feeling good enough
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and that's why I'm doing it
like why am I overdoing it
because I'm never enough so during the years
I also felt that within myself and bit by bit
step by step year by year
cohort by cohort in person or online
the last five years being online
I also Learned to respect my own boundaries
so I definitely agree with you on that one
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so growing right
absolutely growing
I'm such a key
key concept such a key thing to learn
yeah um
especially um
hi achiever syndrome and yeah
people pleasing um I
I can so feel you from from your background
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um it's
you know a similar one for me and I
that's why this confidence with such a big one
for me to actually really say hey
I can do that and learning yes
I can do that and I can still
you know be me and be loved
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and I can give and I can also set boundaries yeah
isn't that delicious and that's
oh my gosh this is such a big gift to give to people
mm hmm yeah
and especially also I
I would say I'm not sure if you would agree women
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oh yeah
tend to be even more and this
don't we I mean
this is like we're nurturing
we're giving we're usually always last
yes yeah yeah
I totally agree with you yeah
and that's why you know
really um
this is this is a beautiful transformation
hmm that is so true
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the feminine aspect of yes transformation
it actually all starts with boundaries
because we learn to respect our own boundaries
we actually get rid of self betrayal
that's so important
like that topic of concept of self betrayal
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why are we betraying ourselves
just to please some others
what like
what is going on what are we tolerating
like what is the missing piece
and what is
what is the connection that our soul is yearning for
so that we can do both because it is possible
like you said it is possible to have self love
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self respect
and enjoying ourselves with totally firm boundaries
and then still showing up as loving supporting yep
I'm there with you I am there absolutely
here is when I can't be and I won't be there
yeah this is
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you know
the language that all will learn joining this program
you will really learn to communicate
those boundaries in a loving
beautiful way and this is such a big
big big difference
and to have more and more people learn this
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I mean yeah
imagine a world yes
where
this is a different way of communicating with people
where where we treat each other with respect
where we you know
really smile at each other on the street
and where we take ownership of our life
our communication our thoughts
our behaviours
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imagine all the people
ha ha exactly
I have that dream I'm imagining it Gabriella yeah
all my dreams you know
my my Piscean dreams and my my idealist world
you know my Utopia the world that I want to live in
and I signed up for a mission
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a cause that I need to show up as
if I want to create that world
I need to become the change
I want to become the world that I want to live in
and that requires a radical responsibility yeah
not easy
but I don't know
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super necessary in the world that we live in
in the whole transition that we are experiencing
the whole new dimension that we are gonna jump into
you know starting from 2025
6 and 7 with everything that I bring as you know
from my metaphysical background
metaphysics and the jinkies and astrology
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and all the cosmic stuff and the spiritual wisdom
we are actually in a lifetime that is unheard of
and unlike unexperienced
like by nobody alive in this planet earth right now
they have never experienced this kind of
vast transformation with the planetary transmissions
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and how that everything moves
and then stars are aligned
like it's just it's just an like
unexperienced time in this planet earth
and that's why I feel like
I signed up for this huge mission
to become the change to become the light
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and that's why I am shiny
I changed my name
I am the light that I want to actually
I want to become the light for myself first
and then others afterwards
and that's why we are doing what we are doing
so feels super fulfilling deep absolutely
absolutely so beautiful
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so so
so beautiful which brings us to leadership exactly
oh yeah
leadership and I mean
you're a woman you have
as we said the whole globe in your cohorts and programs
and a lot of experience
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when you think about feminine leadership
what does that mean to you
and how do you think this has changed
or will actually even transform further
in the world that we live in now
my mind goes to again from the metaphysics
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the whole spiritual wisdom teachings
you know there is a concept of divine
masculine and divine feminine
right and that sacred union we are all seeking
I believe we are
in the lifetime of really embodying that divine
feminine
and feminine leadership is somebody in
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in my mental visualization
is somebody like Wonder Woman is strong firm
very powerful very determined
invincible to a point on a mission
and she serves selflessly for the mission
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because she's serving the collective
she has a real mission she signed up for
and she knows nothing that can stop her
and yet she has the kindest soul and the heart oof
getting goosebumps ah
and this heart wants love wants huh
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wants to be connected and wants to give and nurture
and connect and become one
and that heart and that soul is so soft
so gentle so compassionate
that when you merge it with the divine
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masculine missionary part of her
and then this divine feminine compassionate
loving nurturing
creative part of her that is how I see it
and you know
that I resonate myself with Wonder Woman a lot
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and that's why I am coming to that
as feminine leadership because even Wonder Woman
when you even watch the movie
if you watch the movie you know
she has love and she still needs to serve for the
for the greater good
and like it's it's literally the dichotomy
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and I believe this is what I am feeling inside of me
that might be personal
and the other part of the feminine leadership
that I see that might be needed more in the world
is that rising up a little bit from the 3D reality
what I mean by that we have conditions
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we learn things we judge and label things
and that's how we create meaning
versus if we are able to rise
up to the known meaning
to the known labelling of that certain behaviour
certain action or certain situation
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and then putting curiosity
and putting this wisdom and this cosmic
galactic understanding big picture
what else does it mean
and perhaps it can mean something more
like what is more in the situation
that I am unable to see right now
because of my limited thinking
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my limited perspective I believe woman
especially us
we need to rise up to that big picture thinking
so that we also allow each other to
become collaborators
become partners rather than competitors
or rather than oh
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you know you're this and then I judge you for that
you shouldn't be doing that
that is so earthly that is so limited
that is so not cosmic not galactic at all
we gotta rise up you know
I mean as a Wonder Woman
I feel connected to something beyond
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something cosmic galactic
it is not about this world
this planet earth is a school and it is limited
and when we connect our feminine leadership
to something beyond what we are really experiencing
seeing
then I believe this is going to be something very
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very essential especially in the upcoming years ahead
I believe that the universe is knocking on the door
and especially for women hey
feminine goddesses the
you know divine feminine energies within you
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it is time to wake up to who you truly are
because you have a human outfit
and that outfit is temporary
and that limitation that you experience is temporary
and it is earthly
go above and beyond and see things as learnings
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see things as lessons rather than limitations or oh
I can't do this I no
no this has to go immediately
and I believe feminine leadership is
the way to break through this whole limitation
because women are the creators
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they have to create the path ahead
wow that's a beautiful
beautiful beautiful answer
thank you for sharing that
that's so true so beautiful yeah
what do you think about that
oh I can
I can basically second you on that
um I truly believe that
if you wanna take the concept of the divine feminine
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it really is the way forward
I think we we are called to rise up
as you mentioned to get into our power to
to nurture
and also to really create the boundaries to fight
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there is there is a different energy on
when women come together
and serve and nurture the world
and nurturing does not always only mean
be nice and people please
nurturing is also around creating boundaries
and fight for what is true to you
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fight for something bigger
yeah
and it's really coming to this higher consciousness
go to the creator the creator of us all
I mean we're all one
we're all connected and from that perspective
seeing things with love for me
you know the question that I love to ask myself is
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what would love do in that situation
what would love say what would love do do yeah
yeah which connects me to my heart
and which connects me to the universe
to God to creation
to consciousness whatever you wanna call that
whatever that feels true to you yeah
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yeah and I think this is
this is really what it means
to step into your leadership
yep step into your power
mm hmm and connect to the source
connect to the source that's it
you said it and then these are all in our curriculum
dear shiny minds yeah
we all talk about I mean
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the major question that we have in the neuroshine
technology curriculum is what is the source okay
that's it
what is the source of it all
like go to the root
go to the root the source
and that's why it is a cosmic journey as well
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and that's why it's inside out
and it is where science meets spirituality
where logic expands to magic
and their mind hugs the heart
to become the soul that we all show up as
I believe
that's a great my drop moment that we can leave
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yes right
yes hahaha
um do you have any parting thoughts after this
Gabrielle a message
this was such a beautiful conversation
thank you so so so
so much and I think
on that note of creating enlightened leaders
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yes and if you feel that call
if you feel just this little voice just follow it
trust yourself really
trust your intuition and just have a conversation yeah
you know you're not it's just having a conversation
whatever comes about from that is the right thing
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that will happen
and yeah follow your heart
I think that's really what I want to share with
with our viewers and listeners
absolutely
is trust more in yourself and in your intuition yeah
trust more and have a conversation and live your heart
and by the way
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for those of you who are interested in learning
more about our upcoming course
Gabrielle is gonna have one very soon this yeah
actually so we would love to have you
so please go to my website and grab the
the PDF guide so that you know where to begin
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and then we are always here
if you would love to have a conversation
if you would love to ask OK
what is this Neuro Shine technology program
why do I need to become a coach
and how is this related to my spirituality
my enlightenment like
how do I become a feminine leader out of your program
if you have all any of those questions just reach out
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we are here we are hashtag on a mission
we would love to support you
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so that we can make this world a brighter place
together with more love and Shiny Minds
thank you so much Gabrielle
for being my guest today
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it was truly delightful and joyful
thank you all and dear Shiny Minds
until next time please keep your light shining
oh my goodness shininess
(00:01):
welcome back to the Shiny Minds show
I have Gabrielle Hirsch are you ready to shine
come on it's the shiny one
you got this welcome to the Shiny Minds show
you are my it's heard shine of mine on this show
and actually you are the one who is super special
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because you have the most experience
in the Academy of Neuroshine
Technology faculty all of our audience watching
they're wondering how we met
how this story began and what happened in the universe
for our forces to come together
(00:42):
and then just to do whatever we're doing right now
so can you please share our story
I can of course
well first of all
thank you so much for having me on the show
this is exciting
very exciting yeah
how did we met
that was like literally the universe coming together
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for sure
stars I'm aligning
I was at the time working with a mutual friend of ours
and I knew from her that she did courses with you
and that got me curious so of course
I looked up shiny
and I got to know everything about you
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and after a long conversation with myself
I reached out to you and I remember these conversations
so so so
so so well
me too and I just knew I had to be in your course
and in your program and um
do this and be made at work
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even though I thought I couldn't hmm yes
I know all kinds of things that everybody goes through
right yeah
absolutely all the hesitations
can can you share what those hesitations were
well it was a lot around can I finish things
can I make it work can I make it work financially
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how do I do this how can I fit it in everything
and at the time I was really not in a good place
like there was so many things going on health wise
financially emotionally mentally
it was just real a tough time
and it was also a new beginning
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truly a new beginning yeah
yeah indeed indeed
I also remember I do remember
what year was that January
yeah January 21
I did my first level 1 like at that time
it was not level one yeah it wasn't even level 1
it wasn't it was in the works
it was the vitamin C of the level 1
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yes
exactly
you're actually in my pilot cohort
that's true yeah
yes yes
my pilot cohort to receive the ICF accreditation
for my neuroshine technology program
this is what we're talking about
by the way for everybody who's watching
like what are we talking about
(03:12):
we're talking about Gabrielle joining my online program
obviously I was back in LA at that time
and then she was in Germany
and she's joining an online virtual program
which was not even ICF accredited fully back then yet
it was accredited as a CC
continuing coaching education program
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but not as a fully level 1 or level 2 program
and she actually joined the pilot program
so that I could actually get the approval
and she actually put a ton of trust in me
so may I please share my gratitude
and my appreciation with you Gabrielle
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thank you back to you
likewise no
truly because I think this is what connects us
we had this connection and this trust in each other
from the get go really yeah
it it was super instant it was a cosmic
galactic connection that I will always cherish
and so Jolene if you're watching
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we want to thank you for this connection
yes we definitely appreciate you putting us together
absolutely and then so what happened after that
Gabrielle that January 2021
and then now we are in June 2,025
oh wow
yeah June 2025
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I think I can I can fairly confidently say that
I might have only missed a handful of trainings
if any so since then
I was like literally hooked on the content
on the people and I joined and Learned
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I was an observer as an observer
I got my a C C I C
F accreditation and became part of the faculty
and I'm a faculty trainer
hahaha she is a faculty
she's not only a faculty trainer
she is the one with the most experience
obviously because she started from the beginning
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and that's why
that holds a super special place in my heart
and she is right about that
I remember seeing you Gabrielle
in every single cohort
you would just show up with unwavering commitment
and support and love
to give back to contribute
to support everybody who is ungetting goosebumps
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who's going through the journey
you would get emotional
we would cry sometimes at the end
that's true
that is very true because yeah
if you are watching
and if you wanna join any of those cool hordes yes
this is what you're gonna get
you're gonna get a ton of love
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and you're gonna be just cheered on
and loved for the whole world
and back it's amazing
and it is gonna be an emotional ride
mm hmm oh yeah
we transform we fight out with love
yeah
we we
we just turn on the light on whatever
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like you don't have the light on
and together we work on them
and so now I wanna ask you Gabrielle
when you first joined as a student
as a student OK
not your faculty
so for anybody who's watching who are thinking like
what is this program why should I join
and what is the outcome
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what did Gabrielle get out of it
what would you tell them for me
the biggest outcome
and the biggest gift was really confidence
I grew so much in that program and transformed
that's for me like a the biggest gift
the confidence that I gained
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the the feeling of yes
I can do this
and seeing myself in a completely different light
and perspective
and having this this group around you
that is going through it all together
you are getting free coaching
with each and every person right
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I mean you are growing
you really are and that is so
so so beautiful
and to me the confidence at the point
at this stage when I started
was the biggest thing to really start a new beginning
and really believe that I can build a business from it
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well that that is priceless to gain yeah
it's rocket it's just yeah
rocket rockets to the sky
absolutely yeah
that's also something that I
I tell everybody
that is kind of like a hidden benefit of the program
when you join an online program
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you know that there's a structure
you know that you're gonna go through
some of the step by step curriculum
that was designed by the creator of the program
and you wouldn't necessarily think about what it
what else is going on yeah
that is something that is super important
perhaps
one of the biggest benefits is what you mentioned
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is what goes on in the breakout rooms
when you are actually practicing what you are learning
and then you are honing your skills
your coaching skills in a breakout room
with other people joining from all around the world
you're actually getting free coaching
you get to bring your agendas
and you get to talk about them and release them right
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so that also gives you connection with others
in the program you get to know connect with them right
that's absolutely and you build friendships
you know you build friendships for life um
with those connections and it's
it's just amazing
the mindset shifts that happen for all the people
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so that's actually a question I would have for you
shiny if I may
go ahead please
what would you say are the two biggest mindset shifts
hmm
sets coaches apart from each other
I believe
there are very different ways to look at mindset
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if you look at mindset as a skill
versus
if you look at mindset as a state of consciousness
so skill is a toolbox that you still need to practice
perform and that is something that you reach out
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and then you grab it and you use a skill
until it becomes a state of consciousness
that you don't even need to think about anymore
so that you can forget it
and then your consciousness handles that
so if I look at mindset
from the perspective of skill versus
state of consciousness
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what we achieve in our program
in our Neuro Shine technology program
our coaches
if they are really brutally honest with themselves
they can walk away with a deeply
elevated state of consciousness
which I call enlightenment as you know
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and not everybody actually gets there
we see it right there are also some others
they also walk away with a mindset full of skills
like so many beautiful skills for a lifetime
and those coaches are going to
become their best versions
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in time so the ones with the skills
they still need time to integrate
and some of them they come ready
and then they go through the program
11 weeks or 15 weeks or 15 times 2:30
then they're like okay
now
I do have a certainly different state of consciousness
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and then I
I walk away as an enlightened transformational leader
oh beautiful life goosebumps right
oh yeah
so so so amazing oh my gosh
thank you that's what I thought
I mean the the the worst case scenario
you're gonna walk away with a lifetime skills
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yeah of your mindset
and there are gonna be lifetime skills that as you know
Gabrielle you experienced yourself
that you're gonna actually use and practice
and utilize in all kinds of areas of your life
that's so beautiful
yeah enlightened transformational readers
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that's that's what we generate
ha ha that's a
that's a co creation
that we do together with our students actually
so now I within that line
I have a question for you
for your level of consciousness
for where you are in your life right now
if you were to look back
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what was the most surprising takeaway from the program
that you didn't even think about
like it was beyond your comprehension
I would say for me again
coming a little bit back to what I
at the said at the beginning
starting with that confidence
mm hmm and the belief of I can actually do this
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and there's there's more it
it confirmed to me and I think this is like the
the depth of where I wanna go
it confirmed to me what coaching really is
as it completed me in a way that I was longing for
for a long time and actually
the ability to give that back
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and share that with the world
really the sense of yes
we are all whole
we are all complete we are resourceful
that was I mean
I get goosebumps all over me at when I say this yeah
being able to give that back to the world
and I remember why this is so
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was so surprising to me was that I
I never dared to go there
and I trusted
and did something that I probably would have never
ever done like a year before right
that's like the moment where
you know how they say you just have to jump yeah
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that's what I did yeah
that's what I did yeah
I remember I was like come real then let's do this
that's what I did
and that was like things coming into place
now I have a business yeah
I am part of the faculty I teach this content
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I help and support women that's like for me
oh my gosh yeah
that's a dream come true the confirmation that
there's more than we can see in this world right
oh god
our galactic universe as you like to say
yeah exactly
going galactic going galactic
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and this was like for me really the
the most surprising and most deepening transformation
delicious delicious hahaha
obviously you had it in you
it just needed to be activated
if you didn't have it then you wouldn't have it right
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so yes it's the same for everybody
and that's why obviously
we are both passionate about this work
you have it all within you
unless you activate it it's just going to keep sleeping
okay you want to just rise from your ashes
and you just need to wake up
and you need to just give it
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give yourself a chance and that's
that's what happens you
you go beyond your own your own dreams
so I mean
when I look at what I am doing right now
I'm like okay
I just wanted to be free and hahaha
I wanted to do whatever I wanted to do
and then I didn't think about
you know
having this global faculty and a global business
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it just it just
it just flows through you
when you just say to the universe hey
I'm in sign me up for this mission
hashtag on a mission
that was one of my hashtags as you saw in yeah
right when I have this like hashtag on a mission okay
this feels like a mission
and it is fun
I get to do this like this is so fun
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when I raise my hand the universe is like okay
we're just gonna use you as a portal
and then we're just gonna like
go through you because you're the channel now
and then we're gonna use whatever
the message that we have through you
and then you just do whatever you just surrender
it's such a beautiful journey
yeah and experience so as you as you mentioned
(16:40):
surprising
after all these years that you've done this work now
and you continue doing this work
mm hmm
what was like for you
the key moment that surprised you most in this journey
I have so many which one to choose from
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I believe I can start with the first one
because that is going to resonate with everybody
else who is watching our conversation
or listening to our conversation
when I hit my six figures and it was only one contract
that that just blew blew my mind
I was like what this this is this is possible really
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I just was like shaken by surprise
and it was also a great confirmation again
from the universe that hey
hey kid you're on the right track
you're actually making a difference
and that's another way of making money
and that's possible
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and that was the first surprise for me
the second surprise was when I kept receiving awards
like years after years like I was like
what like in 2,017
I was chosen as one of the most influential Turkish
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American living in the US
Turkish American author speaker
trainer in my own category
because there's so many categories
and I then was awarded as the Global Entrepreneur
Global Woman Entrepreneur
and last year as you know now as well
I was also awarded as a Distinguished Coach
(18:28):
Educator by the International Coaching Federation
ICF itself
and like those are like very amazing surprises and
great confirmations
and then reaching out to a whole globe
like we are now more than in 50 countries Gabrielle
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it's it's real and like how surprising is that
like did I ever dream about that
that was I really wanted to
I remember when I just like
when I burned my bridges back in Istanbul
with my corporate world
I just needed to go deep within myself
I just wanted to find out my own truth
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I just wanted to do something with myself
I just didn't know myself
I didn't know what I liked what I didn't like
I was just programmed I was automated
I just needed that time to go deep within myself
and get to know myself searching for my truth
searching for my purpose and if you are that person
(19:32):
dear shiny minds who are watching this conversation
please know that
if you are feeling that call within you
that calling there is a reason for that
your higher self is actually whispering to you
and you need to pay attention to that voice within you
if you don't
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it's just gonna fade away and it's gonna not be heard
and even those voices within you
they want to be heard they wanna feel safe
seen heard
appreciated just like us as human beings
you know
those voices are you know some entities as well
and so coming from that kind of background
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and that kind of like I just wanna be free
I just wanna know myself
and then now I am in more than 50 countries
I'm touching lives like literally
like transforming people inside out
and giving them not only beautiful transformations
but a purpose and a business to make money
(20:35):
to change lives like really
I'm good hahaha
that is so so so so so beautiful
and this is really also something that I admire you
so far the cohorts that you put together
the people that you bring together in those cohorts
(20:55):
from literally all over the world
I mean we had Kenya in our last co ward right yes
yes I mean
this is amazing this is really
really amazing yeah
yeah it really goes beyond anything
that I could have ever imagined
like wildest dreams and I am
I'm living it
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and it is it has become my everyday reality
how is that possible it just starts with one step
just one step when you take to one one right next step
it just ha ha ha is a great starter
and that's that's what happens
you have been teaching for so many years
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within my faculty you have been holding the space
and supporting a ton of people
and obviously growing as well
as you have been providing support
my question now is what is the concept
I'm looking for a concept around your growth
if you can elaborate on it
(21:58):
what kind of a concept when I mean concept is
is that spiritual is that mental
is it mostly emotional or is it mostly about um
sophistication metaphysical
like
what is the concept for your growth has been so far
I would say my growth was conceptually a lot
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really mentally and emotionally
hmm to really figure out in how to be there
hold the space in the loving way
and give and still keep my boundaries
that was a really really big one because you know me
(22:44):
hahaha
that's a good one you know me
and that was like a
a big learning for me that it is possible to you know
do that in a loving way
and still stay healthy and keep your boundaries
and that was I would say that was really the biggest
(23:07):
yeah I would really say that was the biggest
I can actually second you on that one
because I have also experienced
that kind of growth within myself
I mean I'm a Pisces and a double Pisces
and my my south node even Pisces
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if you are familiar with it in astrological terms
and like I give
I over give I over deliver
I over please I
I do a lot mm hmm
so that has been also a pattern
also coming from my own childhood wound with my father
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how I had to learn to please
like to become a people pleaser
and this work taught me how to shed the layers of those
people pleasing yeah
and unlearn the conditioning around people pleasing
why are we doing it because I'm not feeling good enough
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and that's why I'm doing it
like why am I overdoing it
because I'm never enough so during the years
I also felt that within myself and bit by bit
step by step year by year
cohort by cohort in person or online
the last five years being online
I also Learned to respect my own boundaries
so I definitely agree with you on that one
(24:34):
so growing right
absolutely growing
I'm such a key
key concept such a key thing to learn
yeah um
especially um
hi achiever syndrome and yeah
people pleasing um I
I can so feel you from from your background
(24:56):
um it's
you know a similar one for me and I
that's why this confidence with such a big one
for me to actually really say hey
I can do that and learning yes
I can do that and I can still
you know be me and be loved
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and I can give and I can also set boundaries yeah
isn't that delicious and that's
oh my gosh this is such a big gift to give to people
mm hmm yeah
and especially also I
I would say I'm not sure if you would agree women
(25:37):
oh yeah
tend to be even more and this
don't we I mean
this is like we're nurturing
we're giving we're usually always last
yes yeah yeah
I totally agree with you yeah
and that's why you know
really um
this is this is a beautiful transformation
hmm that is so true
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the feminine aspect of yes transformation
it actually all starts with boundaries
because we learn to respect our own boundaries
we actually get rid of self betrayal
that's so important
like that topic of concept of self betrayal
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why are we betraying ourselves
just to please some others
what like
what is going on what are we tolerating
like what is the missing piece
and what is
what is the connection that our soul is yearning for
so that we can do both because it is possible
like you said it is possible to have self love
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self respect
and enjoying ourselves with totally firm boundaries
and then still showing up as loving supporting yep
I'm there with you I am there absolutely
here is when I can't be and I won't be there
yeah this is
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you know
the language that all will learn joining this program
you will really learn to communicate
those boundaries in a loving
beautiful way and this is such a big
big big difference
and to have more and more people learn this
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I mean yeah
imagine a world yes
where
this is a different way of communicating with people
where where we treat each other with respect
where we you know
really smile at each other on the street
and where we take ownership of our life
our communication our thoughts
our behaviours
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imagine all the people
ha ha exactly
I have that dream I'm imagining it Gabriella yeah
all my dreams you know
my my Piscean dreams and my my idealist world
you know my Utopia the world that I want to live in
and I signed up for a mission
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a cause that I need to show up as
if I want to create that world
I need to become the change
I want to become the world that I want to live in
and that requires a radical responsibility yeah
not easy
but I don't know
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super necessary in the world that we live in
in the whole transition that we are experiencing
the whole new dimension that we are gonna jump into
you know starting from 2025
6 and 7 with everything that I bring as you know
from my metaphysical background
metaphysics and the jinkies and astrology
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and all the cosmic stuff and the spiritual wisdom
we are actually in a lifetime that is unheard of
and unlike unexperienced
like by nobody alive in this planet earth right now
they have never experienced this kind of
vast transformation with the planetary transmissions
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and how that everything moves
and then stars are aligned
like it's just it's just an like
unexperienced time in this planet earth
and that's why I feel like
I signed up for this huge mission
to become the change to become the light
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and that's why I am shiny
I changed my name
I am the light that I want to actually
I want to become the light for myself first
and then others afterwards
and that's why we are doing what we are doing
so feels super fulfilling deep absolutely
absolutely so beautiful
(29:48):
so so
so beautiful which brings us to leadership exactly
oh yeah
leadership and I mean
you're a woman you have
as we said the whole globe in your cohorts and programs
and a lot of experience
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when you think about feminine leadership
what does that mean to you
and how do you think this has changed
or will actually even transform further
in the world that we live in now
my mind goes to again from the metaphysics
(30:29):
the whole spiritual wisdom teachings
you know there is a concept of divine
masculine and divine feminine
right and that sacred union we are all seeking
I believe we are
in the lifetime of really embodying that divine
feminine
and feminine leadership is somebody in
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in my mental visualization
is somebody like Wonder Woman is strong firm
very powerful very determined
invincible to a point on a mission
and she serves selflessly for the mission
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because she's serving the collective
she has a real mission she signed up for
and she knows nothing that can stop her
and yet she has the kindest soul and the heart oof
getting goosebumps ah
and this heart wants love wants huh
(31:35):
wants to be connected and wants to give and nurture
and connect and become one
and that heart and that soul is so soft
so gentle so compassionate
that when you merge it with the divine
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masculine missionary part of her
and then this divine feminine compassionate
loving nurturing
creative part of her that is how I see it
and you know
that I resonate myself with Wonder Woman a lot
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and that's why I am coming to that
as feminine leadership because even Wonder Woman
when you even watch the movie
if you watch the movie you know
she has love and she still needs to serve for the
for the greater good
and like it's it's literally the dichotomy
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and I believe this is what I am feeling inside of me
that might be personal
and the other part of the feminine leadership
that I see that might be needed more in the world
is that rising up a little bit from the 3D reality
what I mean by that we have conditions
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we learn things we judge and label things
and that's how we create meaning
versus if we are able to rise
up to the known meaning
to the known labelling of that certain behaviour
certain action or certain situation
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and then putting curiosity
and putting this wisdom and this cosmic
galactic understanding big picture
what else does it mean
and perhaps it can mean something more
like what is more in the situation
that I am unable to see right now
because of my limited thinking
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my limited perspective I believe woman
especially us
we need to rise up to that big picture thinking
so that we also allow each other to
become collaborators
become partners rather than competitors
or rather than oh
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you know you're this and then I judge you for that
you shouldn't be doing that
that is so earthly that is so limited
that is so not cosmic not galactic at all
we gotta rise up you know
I mean as a Wonder Woman
I feel connected to something beyond
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something cosmic galactic
it is not about this world
this planet earth is a school and it is limited
and when we connect our feminine leadership
to something beyond what we are really experiencing
seeing
then I believe this is going to be something very
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very essential especially in the upcoming years ahead
I believe that the universe is knocking on the door
and especially for women hey
feminine goddesses the
you know divine feminine energies within you
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it is time to wake up to who you truly are
because you have a human outfit
and that outfit is temporary
and that limitation that you experience is temporary
and it is earthly
go above and beyond and see things as learnings
(35:29):
see things as lessons rather than limitations or oh
I can't do this I no
no this has to go immediately
and I believe feminine leadership is
the way to break through this whole limitation
because women are the creators
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they have to create the path ahead
wow that's a beautiful
beautiful beautiful answer
thank you for sharing that
that's so true so beautiful yeah
what do you think about that
oh I can
I can basically second you on that
um I truly believe that
if you wanna take the concept of the divine feminine
(36:13):
it really is the way forward
I think we we are called to rise up
as you mentioned to get into our power to
to nurture
and also to really create the boundaries to fight
(36:34):
there is there is a different energy on
when women come together
and serve and nurture the world
and nurturing does not always only mean
be nice and people please
nurturing is also around creating boundaries
and fight for what is true to you
(36:58):
fight for something bigger
yeah
and it's really coming to this higher consciousness
go to the creator the creator of us all
I mean we're all one
we're all connected and from that perspective
seeing things with love for me
you know the question that I love to ask myself is
(37:20):
what would love do in that situation
what would love say what would love do do yeah
yeah which connects me to my heart
and which connects me to the universe
to God to creation
to consciousness whatever you wanna call that
whatever that feels true to you yeah
(37:42):
yeah and I think this is
this is really what it means
to step into your leadership
yep step into your power
mm hmm and connect to the source
connect to the source that's it
you said it and then these are all in our curriculum
dear shiny minds yeah
we all talk about I mean
(38:04):
the major question that we have in the neuroshine
technology curriculum is what is the source okay
that's it
what is the source of it all
like go to the root
go to the root the source
and that's why it is a cosmic journey as well
(38:25):
and that's why it's inside out
and it is where science meets spirituality
where logic expands to magic
and their mind hugs the heart
to become the soul that we all show up as
I believe
that's a great my drop moment that we can leave
(38:46):
yes right
yes hahaha
um do you have any parting thoughts after this
Gabrielle a message
this was such a beautiful conversation
thank you so so so
so much and I think
on that note of creating enlightened leaders
(39:09):
yes and if you feel that call
if you feel just this little voice just follow it
trust yourself really
trust your intuition and just have a conversation yeah
you know you're not it's just having a conversation
whatever comes about from that is the right thing
(39:33):
that will happen
and yeah follow your heart
I think that's really what I want to share with
with our viewers and listeners
absolutely
is trust more in yourself and in your intuition yeah
trust more and have a conversation and live your heart
and by the way
(39:53):
for those of you who are interested in learning
more about our upcoming course
Gabrielle is gonna have one very soon this yeah
actually so we would love to have you
so please go to my website and grab the
the PDF guide so that you know where to begin
(40:16):
and then we are always here
if you would love to have a conversation
if you would love to ask OK
what is this Neuro Shine technology program
why do I need to become a coach
and how is this related to my spirituality
my enlightenment like
how do I become a feminine leader out of your program
if you have all any of those questions just reach out
(40:39):
we are here we are hashtag on a mission
we would love to support you
and if you loved this video
please share put a like and of course
subscribe to this channel
so that we can make this world a brighter place
together with more love and Shiny Minds
thank you so much Gabrielle
for being my guest today
(41:00):
it was truly delightful and joyful
thank you all and dear Shiny Minds
until next time please keep your light shining
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