May 24, 2024 • 49 mins
Wyatt Hargrove is a competitive sporting clay shooter from Eastman, Georgia. He has been in the sport for many years. Recently, Wyatt's name has become a regular fixture at the top of the leaderboard in various tournaments showing his talent and determination.
His hard work paid off with a remarkable M6 finish at the World Sporting Clays Championship in 2024. This impressive finish has only fueled his ambition, as he sets his goals on even greater success in the future. With his dedication and competitive nature, he is on the right track to becoming great.
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Speaker 2 (01:04):
in this episode, I have a guy from eastman, georgia
on with me that is a top 10finisher at the recent world
Sporting Place Championship.
He's been shooting a while nowand in the past few years it's
common to see his name at thetop of most shoots he's
attending.
I'm glad to have him on with mehere.
He is Wyatt Hargrove.
Wyatt, welcome to the show, man.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thank you for having me, Justin.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Is this the first podcast you've ever done?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yes, sir, it is.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Did you ever think old Georgia boy from down in the
country be on a podcast aboutshooting a shotgun?
I guess you would, but in thissituation maybe not no, not, not
really.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh, I wouldn't expect this day to come well, the
day's here right so yes, sir, itis all right.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So, uh, for those of you who don't know why, why just
tell everybody who you are.
You know where you live, and,and we'll go from there all
right.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Well, uh, my name is Wyatt Hargrove, I am from
Eastman Georgia, which is incentral Georgia.
Uh, I've been shooting forabout 14 years, uh,
competitively 10.
Uh, you know, I'm about to be25 years old and just I like to
shoot, and so far we're turningit into a more of a productive
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sport than just a hobby sport.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I didn't realize you've been shooting that that
long yes, sir, yep wow, well, itshowed all right.
So, uh, I messaged you theother day.
I said, hey, we need to do apodcast why it finished m3 in
the world world championship upat m&m and I kind of want to get
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a story.
You know, I mean m3 at the.
Basically, that's what is that?
That's six overall, is thatright?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yes, sir, is the top six.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, so six overall.
He got to experience a superfinal Um, and I just kind of
want to get to the point towhere he is now.
I mean, it's it's, it's pretty,it's pretty cool to me.
You know, I I kind of rememberyou from several years back and
you were just a shooter and itseems here recently that you're
up at the top a lot.
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When did you really startgetting into it?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The past three or four years maybe, with NSCA.
Well, I've really gotten trulyhard to decor with NSCA.
When I got about 19, 20 yearsold, so roughly five years ago
I've always shot SCTP and 4.8growing up and whenever it
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started getting time to looking,you know, does this end here or
does you know can I continue iton?
And I found NSCA and startedjust going to a couple of state
shoots, some, you know, justsmall registered shoots here and
there.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, you shot.
For what college you go to?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I went to a manual college, which is now manual
university, but while I wasthere there it was a manual
college up in north georgia theydidn't get big time turned into
a university yes, sir, they did.
Uh, they kind of made me wish Ican go back and uh change my
diploma so how, how?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
when you went to school, did you go to school and
knew and know you were going tobe a?
You wanted to shoot sportingclays, trap and skeet, and all
that for college.
Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
no, sir.
So, like I said, you know,whenever it got to the time of
wondering, okay, is thereshooting beyond this, beyond
sctp and 4-8, um, my mom,actually you know she said, okay
, do you, do you want to playfootball in college or do you
want to see if there's anycolleges that might have a
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shooting team?
I said, well, it won't hurt togo out there and look.
And so we looked on theInternet and the first thing
that popped up was a malecollege's clay target team.
And we reached out to JohnSheelyely, who is still the
director of the program nice, soyou shot there, for I guess you
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got a four-year degree rightyes, sir, I did.
Yep, yeah, I shot there for fouryears and it was a blessing.
And I, if I had to go back, youknow people ask me do you wish
you can go back to GeorgiaSouthern?
Or, you know, would you staywith Emanuel College?
I said, well, I made a name formyself at Emanuel College, and
so I still, to this day, pickEmanuel College over Georgia
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Southern.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All right.
So let's talk about that for asecond, because there's a lot of
kids that are in the sport, alot of kids coming up and want
to do kind of what you did.
What?
What uh advantages do you seein shooting college and what
would you?
What kind of path, I guessyou'd say, would you recommend
somebody that wants to shoot incollege to go down?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So, um, whenever I took this path, Georgia Southern
at the time didn't have a team,so Emanuel was kind of the only
one in the state of Georgiathat or let me rephrase that
Emanuel College was the onlyscholarship team in Georgia.
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Uga and ABAC down in Tiftonthey all had club teams.
But the difference between ascholarship team and a club team
is that the scholarship youknow you have, a scholarship
that helps pay for your fundingfor shooting Club team is all
out of pocket.
So that was one direction Iwent in.
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Now I don't know if anycolleges have changed.
If you know, georgia Southernmay have a scholarship team.
Now I have no clue.
But also I would tell kids toreally consider yes, shooting is
great and all, but reallyconsider what degree and what
path you want, because somecolleges don't have the program
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that you might want to go intoor they might not offer what you
really want.
Don't settle for less.
Get your degree first, because,as I was shooting, school was
always first.
That was my first job.
Shooting was just a luxury partof it.
Yeah, um, yeah.
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So, other than that, that'swhat I would advise people that
want to go into further shooting, into collegiate.
They need to put that inconsideration as well.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
There's several and you'll have to name them because
I don't know them, but I knowthey went there.
Several uh people that went toemmanuel that's actually doing
pretty well now which whatshooters are they that that went
there?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
you have uh, aaron copeland, uh graham eubanks,
eric brown, uh john dean,daniels colton evans, um the the
list goes on and on and on.
Ambus, powell all those guys.
I've shot with them and they'refantastic shots.
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Some of them aren't shooting asheavily as I am some of them
just decided to focus more onwork but all of them are great
shots.
You can always look them up.
You know they're well known,especially when it came to you
shooting um so, but some of themare still out there shooting
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still yeah, okay, so let's let'stalk about.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm gonna put you on the spot with this question.
It's not a hard question, butyou probably aren't ready for
this.
What?
What shoots have you finishedwell at in the past two years?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
past two years I have done successfully well the most
recent one here at the world um.
Before that I I finished acouple side events at gator cup,
seminole Cup, southeastRegional.
I've done well all their fivestand and super sporting events
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and feet ass.
But a major one that somepeople have noticed.
I don't know if anybody reallyhas noticed but uh, was the
South Carolina State back in 22or, yes, 22.
It was at Morey's.
I took home the South CarolinaState title so it was pretty
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great.
That was the underdog story, ifyou know it was.
It was a battle for that one.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, tell it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's what we're here for.
Well, we're so.
Morey's was my first time everbeing there and I thought they
were running both main events onthe same day, but everybody
shot the same course on Saturdayand the same course on Sunday.
Well, eric Dorsey set theSaturday main and I thought it
was great targets, don't get mewrong, but I thought they were a
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little bit on the easier side.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Eric, is that easy targets, Surprisingly, I know.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So I shot a 90.
There was Richard Cheek aheadof me with a 92.
Turner Parcell ahead of me witha 94.
Brandon Powell, rick Hemingway,mike Longo and several others
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were leading it by 95.
So from the leader, I was fivetargets behind.
So we go into the Sunday main.
So from the leader, I was fivetargets behind, so we go into
the Sunday main.
I was shooting the 12 o'clockrotation on Sunday.
Everybody that was ahead of mewas shooting the three o'clock.
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Well, I was just enjoying myday.
The first rotation went outthere and shot.
I didn't go on score chaser,but everybody else was.
They were keeping track of it.
Well, Kyle Millwood, he shotthe 9 o'clock rotation on Sunday
and he was the leader for hisrotation, know his rotation, and
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he shot a low, low, 80, high,70 and everyone else below him
were in the 60s, 50s and below.
But I had no clue about, Iwasn't looking on score chaser.
So then I go out there firstFirst station.
I lost dead.
I said great, great start.
So then my gun breaks.
The top latch on my K80 waslocked and I couldn't get it to
open.
So I was shooting with a fellowthat had a K80 Parkour 34-inch
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barrel and he said hey, real,real quick, there's some targets
out there in the grass, justdrill two shots and see if you
line up.
Perfect, so I take it.
Boom, boom, looks good.
I had one of my buddies come upand he said hey, I can take
your gun to Mike and granny ifyou wish.
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I said yes, please, I wouldfeel more comfortable about it.
So he hauls butt up there toMike and Granny.
Well, I shoot the next twostations with this gentleman's
gun and I hadn't dropped atarget.
These targets to me at the timethey didn't seem like they were
high difficulty, but they theyreally were.
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I get two or three stationsdown the road, I see my gun
coming back and I look at thisstation.
It's two tower shots that wereprobably 55 yards away and I
said, ooh, what do I need to do?
So I finally decided to go backto my gun.
Nothing changed.
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Ran the station, I said perfect.
To go back to my gun.
Nothing changed.
Ran the station.
I said perfect, we're back inbusiness.
So we're going along.
Get to about station two orthree and there's a Rabu
Shondell and a standard Shondellacross the pond.
They were landing about 45-, 50yards.
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It was a two-pair station.
I only hit one target so Idropped three targets there.
Last two stations I droppedanother target had a 95.
So I thought at the time I waslike man Brandon and Mike Longa
and Rick Hemingway and Turnerthey're all going to shoot this.
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Very well, they still got afive target lead on me.
They can shoot a good 93, 92and still win.
I had nothing for the rest ofthe day.
I hang out with Mike and Grannyand tell them thank you for
fixing my gun.
About five o'clock rolls aroundand the first person to come
and congratulate me was BrandonPowell.
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He got out of uh Chip Welch'sbuggy and he came and shook my
hand.
He said congratulations, you'rethe new South Carolina state
champion.
I kind of looked at himdumbfounded.
I said what do you mean?
You pull my leg?
And he said no, you just wantit.
And he shot a 89 on that course, putting me one target ahead of
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him.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So Brandon can be beat?
Oh, he shot an 88.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
My bad, yes, sir, he can.
He can be beat.
I'm just making sure.
Yes, sir, he is human, but uhwell good mike will long go.
He shot low 80s, turner shot uhuh 88 as well, I think, and
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rick henway shot at 89.
So I got to take home the title, not in state but out of state,
but really I took it all yeah,well, good for you.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I didn't even know that story.
I don't even know you won thatyes, sir, that's what I'm saying
.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It was a real underdog story, and that was
also the year that braxtonoliver had that bad wreck.
Um, he didn't get to competeyeah, yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Talk about targets.
You brought up targets just asan example.
You said that some targets satyou, somebody sat, you thought a
little, were a little easy, andthen you said these are really
difficult.
What is your take on howtargets should be set at a
tournament?
What do you think?
How do you think they should beset?
Do you think they should be setone easy course, one hard
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course, both hard courses, twoeasy courses?
What do you feel is fair?
Because there's a lot ofconversation and a lot of talk
going on about targets?
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
my take on that is the target setter has a job.
He can either set it completelyhard for your top 5% of shooters
that are here to prove a pointand see who's the best, or they
can set it a little bit softerfor the rest of your crowd than
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the ones that are really comingjust to enjoy the event and just
to shoot and be a part of theevent.
But my take on it is they stillhave a job, but I do believe
that they do need to have itwhere it still has a difficulty
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for us that are in the top 5% to10% but still doable for the
rest of your competitors,because if you do set it just
for us, then you're gonna loseyour money base with the rest.
If you set it too soft, thensome of us we kind of get I
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wouldn't say discouraged but weget kind of get I wouldn't say
discouraged, but we get kind ofconflicted and we're not
satisfied and we kind of getbored and we don't tend to shoot
our best.
Yeah, but I've heard this manytimes from many people the easy
targets count just as much asthe hard targets, which is a
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hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Um, so to me the best way it's like a two day main or
a three day main.
Let's have, you know, onecourse being your softer course,
maybe a couple of hard targetsor a couple of hard stations on
it, kind of build your way up.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, listen to this.
What scares you most as far asa target is concerned?
A very slow rabbit or a veryfast Shondell?
Which one scares you the most?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well, I'm just going to throw this out there for all
the target setters.
If you just want to beat methat desperately, throw all
Shondells, because Sh Bells aremy worst weakness really I
thought you was going to say therabbit.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I thought you would say the rabbit no sir, I
actually enjoy the rabbit.
It's something different everytime all right, let's try it
again, because I wanted theother answer.
All right, so a very slow RickHemingway flopper or a fast
crosser which is harder to hitfor you, the flopper, I'm
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telling you that's kind of thequote when I asked you about the
rabbit If it's slow and it'sbarely moving, oh my God, you
can get.
There's no telling how manypeople you can beat with that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yep.
You know, those slow, justbarely moving targets.
I'm sure you're going to getinto this later in this podcast,
but I'm more of a maintainedlead shooter than I am any other
technique.
But I have been known to figureout that on the slower ones I
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need to do a swing through andcome from behind.
And this is the slower ones.
They get me every time.
If you give me a 40-yard fullspring crosser, I'm your man,
I'm going to get it.
But if it comes to slow targets, loopers, you got me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's a wrap, all right.
So let's talk about the WorldChampionship Now.
Listen, wyatt.
Okay, it's a wrap, alright.
So let's talk about the worldchampionship Now.
Listen, wyatt.
Okay, I think you're probablygoing to be the first person to
talk about these targets On.
Everybody's seen Nick Barry'svideos and videos and Whoever's
posted videos wherever, but Idon't know that anybody's talked
about it yet.
So you're going to be the firstperson, so you need to do a
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good job, okay, alright, solet's start out with your week.
World Championship was lastweek.
All right, yes, sir, how wasthe event?
Let's just talk about that.
How was the event?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, I am kind of limited on talking about some of
these targets because I onlygot to shoot the tower challenge
, the feet, ass and the main.
I did hear that the Castellanipre limb and the super sporting
were good targets, but I nevergot to see him.
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I'm sure later on this weekI'll take some time and look at
Nick Barry's videos on them.
Um, but for as when it came tothe targets, I did get to see.
Tower challenge was somethingthat I thought would be cool and
it absolutely was.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Um how was that?
How was that?
Yeah, that's the first timeI've seen that.
Uh, how was it?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He, he had seven kind of make sure I'm yep.
He had seven targets thrown outtowers and lifts and fire
trucks.
Um, I didn't.
When I saw it I thought it wasgoing to be kind of like a
sporting event, but he had itset up as five stand style.
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Um, it was really fun.
I enjoyed it.
Um, I only shot a 34 out of 50but it was.
It was fun because I don't getto shoot towers that much and I
thought that it was a prettyunique event and my whole squad
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you know they were laughing withme, we were laughing the entire
time.
You know there were shots thatin pairs that would just seemed
wow, how can I pick up on thatbird before it hits 100 yards
away?
You know, yeah, so it was.
It was challenging.
But I think we need to see moreof those kind of events because
not everybody gets to see atower shot.
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You know, not everybody gets tosee towers it seems like in
georgia.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Correct me, other than a couple.
Uh, I don't know where do yousee towers at in georgia.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I guess forest city maybe forest city, meadows, old
hudson and big red oak.
All right, so all of them.
So I guess I just hadn't seenany of them.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Meadows, old Hudson and Big Red Oak so I guess I
just haven't seen any of themwell, I wouldn't say all of them
.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Down here at Gator Creek we have like a 25 foot
tower, but it ain't no lift oranything like that.
Elberton, up there in ElbertonCounty they're quarries, so
they're quite opposite.
You're shooting downwardinstead of upward.
Um, you know, there there's acouple other gun clubs here in
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Georgia that don't you knowCherokee Rose.
They have a couple of 20 foottall towers.
They don't have no lifts.
Yeah, yeah, you know not, notevery gun club has them, but
yeah, that that I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I guess it's just the background.
Maybe when you're shooting upat something, the line, if a
target's going up, I don't knowwhat it is with me.
I have a hard time with towers.
A lot of people do.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The best advice I can give for that is act like
you're in a dove field.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, I guess, so that's where they're at.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
They're flying above you right.
Yes, sir all right.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So, anyway, you shoot the tower challenge.
I'm looking at scores right nowzach shot 34.
I mean nick barry shot 34, youshot 34.
Cory crew shot 35.
So you're right there with Imean those, all of them guys
right there, they know how toshoot, you know.
So, um, so you shoot the towerchallenge, then you shoot the
tower challenge, then you shootthe main.
Let's talk, let's talk aboutthe main, because that's what
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that's, you know, that's whateverybody's talking about,
that's what wins it.
So what about the main?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
yes, sir.
So first day main I shoot thedt11 course.
The dt11 was preferred as, like, the medium course.
Okay To me.
I wouldn't say that.
The only reason why I say thatis because I saw a lot of
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repetitive targets on there.
I saw a lot of trap shots.
I saw, you know, just a lot ofloopers, you know.
It seemed there was a lot ofteals.
You know I saw the same target,maybe different background,
maybe a different position, buteventually I saw the same target
repetitively on that coursesomewhere on there, um, not just
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at different gun clubs but atanthony's.
It was the same thing over andover.
So I shot it well, don't get mewrong.
Uh, I shot it very well.
But I, you know, I've beenstruggling with first day main
event, you know, keeping my headin the game and I really was
focused on doing well, and sothat helped me get through that
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repetitive state yeah, and I'mlooking at the scores.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You shot it the best.
So, uh, you shot dt11 the firstday, um then I shot the sl2
second day okay, how was it?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
sl2.
Um, to the crowd it seemed tobe the easiest to me.
It had a little bit moretechnicality in it.
There were different style oftargets.
It did have me interested butwhat got me was I Guess I never
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looked on score chaser, atscores.
But you know you're gonna hearpeople talk about oh I shot this
or so and so shot this.
So when I went into sl2 I wentinto a careful, kind of you know
, cautious state instead ofbeing aggressive like I like to
be, and I started shooting otherpeople's games.
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I wasn't shooting wyatt's game.
There were targets that Inormally would shoot either off
the arm or I would let itdevelop a little bit more and
you know I would just do quiteopposite of what I would have
done.
And after I missed that targeton the first or second pair,
I'll, you know, shoot it the wayyou post to and I run the rest
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and I run the rest.
Other than that, those targets,they were a little bit more
interesting to me and had alittle bit more technicality to
it than DT11.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
All right, so 694 is last, I guess, for you, and that
was your worst score.
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
How was it.
Well, the reason why and I thinkthat everyone else would agree
when I say this it was thebigger targets, it was the
divider state of course.
Um, there those targets were.
They were really good targets Ihad.
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Joe Skoll did a very well goodjob setting targets.
I enjoyed that course the mostand people are probably going to
be like why you shot thatcourse the worst, you're not
going to like that, why shouldyou like that course?
But heck, no, that leaves moreroom for me to perfect it than
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the easier courses.
You know and I enjoy bigger andharder, more difficult, more
difficult targets than most.
So the Team USA representativesthey got to shoot the 694 the
first day and you know I'mfriends with Brandon Powell and
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he comes up to me and said howdid you shoot today?
And I told him I shot DT11 andshot a 60.
He said, well, I shot a 61 on694, and boy, those were some
targets.
I said, well, if you say thosewere some targets and you shot
that, then you should really dogreat on the DT11 because it
wasn't technically that hard.
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He said, okay, great.
And that was the only time Iheard scores.
You know, heard everybody elsesay, oh, I shot this, I shot
that.
So I kind of put myself in thatrange.
Second day, like I said, gotcareful.
But after the second day, onSaturday, I did not hear not a
single thing about scores and Ikept to my word that I wasn't
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going to look on score chaser.
So I had no clue what positionI was in.
So going into 694, I just shot.
I went in there and I ran myfirst six stations and they were
not, you know, no gimme targets.
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They were big lead, big gaptargets, um, very challenging to
most of your common shootersyeah then I drop one, run the
next couple, I get station twowhere everyone kept talking
about, oh, oh, george Digweed.
George Digweed zeroed thatstation.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Well, I was going to ask that next.
But yeah, go ahead and talkabout that.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well, I can see why he zeroed it, but I luckily got
out of there with a four, but ofcourse it had a Shondell on it,
so I was faking in my boots.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
What were the targets doing?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
It was a quartering left to the right Machine was
probably, I don't know, 25, 30yards full spring going down the
tree line.
Spring going down the tree line.
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second bird was a fundale almostalmost full edge, like it was
going directly away from you,yep, and it was going.
It was going about 40 feet inthe air, um, but I don't know
why I do it, but every time Isee a target like that I just
shoot 10 miles in front of itbut I go in there.
I dead loss.
I said all you shot in front,the dead paired and then the
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last pair lost dead.
So I just didn't get on theline for the quartering target,
um, but you know, that was avery rough station and I mean
George probably should have shot, you know, maybe four or five
out of six.
But you know, going intostation two, I didn't think that
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was the station that he zeroedbecause I looked at it and I
said, nah, this can't be the one.
Station three was a powerstation.
Station three was a powerstation.
It had a MIDI on report 110international target.
And that was when I looked.
Everybody said, oh, this is thestation George zero, it's got
to be.
And I looked at the numbers oh,this is station three.
(31:02):
He's zero.
Two, yeah, but yeah.
I enjoy harder targets, and Joedid a very good job with that
court.
I enjoyed it the most.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It was something different every time.
He did so good he got a newlogo Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Joe's got a logo now, Joe Skull.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Heck yeah, I like Joe Every time I see now Joe skull
Heck.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, joe, I like Joe .
Every time I see him he's, he'sfun to talk to.
I'm glad he did good.
And you know the targets.
I mean you got to think whenyou're setting three main event
courses, you know.
I mean there's only so manytargets you can throw.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean it's.
I can understand where maybesome repetitiveness happens.
You know that's, that's that'scool.
(31:51):
I mean so uh interesting.
You shot 60.
You talked about the DT 11, um,and Brandon shot 59.
So yes, it sounds like you didpretty good on that one.
But anyway, you finished master, master, third, m3 and uh, then
you got to go to the superfinal and I mean, I know you
(32:14):
fairly well enough that you'rejust a, you're one of them, good
old boys.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You know how did it feel to know that you're about
to go to a super final worldchampionship well, um, to be
honest with you, justin, um, Ihad a couple people come watch
me shoot the last couplestations on the 694 course, yeah
(32:39):
, and I noticed that they werewatching me.
We had a long wait on my laststation and I went up to them
and I think they were on scorechaser and they were all
whispering, talking about thescore and I walked over and they
all kind of just got quiet.
I said what is it?
They said we're just, we'rejust talking.
(33:00):
I said you're talking aboutsomething.
And y'all looking nervous.
They said well, why you're?
You're at where you need to be.
And I said well, hey, this ismy last station.
I looked, it was Chip Welch.
I said Chip, where am I at?
He said I want to tell you, butthen I don't.
I said well, I kind of need youto tell me.
And he said Wyatt, if you runthis station, you're in.
(33:24):
If you drop one, you're stillin.
If you drop one, you're stillin.
If you drop all three, you haveto go in a shoot off to get in.
And I looked down.
I said, well, no problem, I'mjust gonna go run the station.
I ended up shooting two out ofthree.
So after I got off the stationthey were all you know, they
were all tearing that.
I got in and that's what I knewright then.
(33:45):
And there I was, in um, my dad.
He was a nervous wreck.
He smokes Marlboro Gold and Icould tell he was looking at
scores because he's back therepacing back and forth and I
think he smoked two whole packsright then and there on one
station.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But he didn't have no beer with him, did he?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
No God.
No he was, he was shooting.
I told him leave the alcohol inthe truck I didn't know he was
shooting with you yep, he.
He said he wanted to participateand so we got him in.
But uh, yeah, I I could tellthings were tight whenever I
(34:28):
look over and he's over therepacing back and forth and
smoking two whole packs ofcigarettes.
That's funny.
I think he was more excitedthan anyone about it.
He was definitely more excitedthan I was because, like I said,
if you would have told me aweek ago that why would you see
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yourself in the super final, Iwould have said if you would
have told me a week ago that whywould you see yourself in the
super final, I would have said,heck, no, I don't see that day
coming for a while.
But going into the shoot-offthough I guess a lot of people
know me a little bit betterthrough make-or-break shoot-offs
(35:09):
.
I guess a lot of people know mea little bit better through
make a break shoot offs.
Um, I am a make a break fanatic.
I love doing it, it's fun, um,but the super final shoot off
was definitely a different beastthan a make a break shoot off.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
They were throwing all sevens, weren't they?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, they, they were seven birds, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I tried to watch nick's video and you could see
some.
It's like you know, it's sohard to video that kind of stuff
, especially with the way nickdoes it, but he does a good job
with what he's got.
But you couldn't see most ofthem.
So what were they?
Just big, far targets ahead ofme.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Yep, there were some On the first stand.
We had probably a 50-yard kindof just out there.
It was a 90 maybe.
No, it was a standard.
The first one was a standard,it was about 50 yards.
(36:08):
It was just slow rising target.
And then the second bird wasoverhead tower.
That was on full spring.
So of course I get the furthertarget and I hit all of it and
it took me to my last pair tofinally figure out the lead that
(36:28):
it took for that overhead tower.
Um, I just kept letting the birdbeat me and I never get enough
lead yeah so the second standhad a 90 millimeter going
straight up in the air and thenfalling right back down, 60
yards away most likely, and thenit was forgot.
(36:53):
The other target on that stand.
But I struggled with the 90.
I kept trying to shoot it whileit was still rising and when I
pulled the trigger it was stillgoing past my shot.
So my last pair I said let itdrop and let it fall, and I hit
it.
Then the last stand this iswhere I threw it all away.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
All right so if you'd have ran this last stand, where
would you have finished?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
If I would have ran the last one, I would have
finished.
I'm trying to do the math realquick.
Make sure I say this correctlythere was nine shots.
On the last one I had a 13.
I would have gotten um.
I would have gotten secondoverall.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Okay, All right.
So you know that, going intothis, I'm sure at this at this
time, Yep, so well, I didn sureat this time, yep.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, I didn't know necessarily, I would get second
overall.
I just knew that I would get apodium position if I did really
well on this stand.
Okay, and the first target wasa Rabu Shondell, shondell, yep,
we get full use of the gun, so Iwasn't necessarily as nervous.
(38:11):
Um then, the next uh pair thatwe had was a full spring right
to left uh crosser, dialed in,kept shooting in front of the
Sean Bell and I once I missed ittwice back to back.
(38:39):
I kind of just something didn'tgo through my head and I ended
up losing both of the last twopairs and it dropped me down to
the last spot, which was masterthird.
Wow, and that's the one on thevideo that Brandon got up there
and shot a hundred miles an houryes, sir, he, uh, when he gets
(39:05):
to going and he has a crowd thatyou know, that can vibe with
him, that can get on his levelof energy.
I think it was like at first itstarted with one guy and then
all of a sudden, after like thesecond pair, when he, he was
loading the gun and he, andbefore he even closed it, he, he
was calling pull and you knowthey just said, yeah, brandon,
(39:26):
keep going.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I heard that he just kept speeding up.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yep, and once he was on he was on and you know I'm
proud of him.
You know he's done it all, Ibelieve, except for go win it
overseas.
But yeah, he turned it on and Iwish I was there on that same
level he was, but I think he wason a mission.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah it's.
Uh, I'm proud.
All y'all at the top.
I mean you know david.
I mean you don't see david atmany shoots anymore.
I saw him more this year than Ihave you know finished runner
up and Turner.
I mean I said this a while backthat Turner was going to be a
problem.
(40:12):
And here he is, and you know yougot Jasper and and, and you,
and I mean Christopher Keller, Imean you got a bunch of guys up
there that are.
You know I'm just proud ofeverybody that that finished and
and and did well, so it's, andI know you're, you're proud of
yourself.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I mean that's, that's , that's saying something right
there, why you know that yes,sir, yes sir, I think I'm just
really proud that the majorityof us were from the southeast
region of the united states, youknow yeah, I always said that
the southeast region of theunited states was your best.
Yeah, I always said that theSoutheast reason in the United
States was your best region tohave competition.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So we'll take, we'll take.
Let's see the tops.
Uh, let's take from uh, HOAdown that master to M five.
Okay, so you got.
You got Brandon, Southeast,Turner, Southeast Jasper,
Southeast you, Southeast, Zachand Wendell, both Southeast.
So one, two, so six, six of youare from Tennessee, southeast
(41:09):
All right, chris, chris Keller.
So that's seven.
So David's the only one in thatwhole group that's from the
North.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's crazy.
I didn't even think about thatwhen you said that.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I, we were really proud.
Hey, I'm.
I'm proud that.
I'm proud that three out ofwell, technically you got
Wendell.
He's down in gay Georgia, butZach me, Jasper Brandon, we're
all Georgia.
I was proud of that as well.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, that's pretty neat.
Out of 1,622 shooters.
I was proud of that as well.
Yeah, yeah, that's, that'spretty neat, you know, out of uh
, 1,622 shooters.
I mean it's saying somethingyou know as far as, as far as
the shoots concerned and overall, I mean it was, I'm sure it was
ran right.
You know you're up in Eminem.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yes, sir, I will say they did run the world.
That was my first world, by theway.
They ran it really well thatmany shooters, some gun clubs,
wouldn't even have the thoughtof running that size of a
tournament, but they ran itreally well.
(42:21):
I didn't hear no problems whenit came to you know traffic or
you know parking or whatsoeverHospitality was great.
I always enjoyed the Italianfood up there in that area.
So you know me and you, we'rebig guys.
(42:41):
So our main objective sometimesis food.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh yeah, and I'm going to tell you something.
If you want me to shoot, good,put a steak at the end of it.
Yes, sir, you got that 100%correct, I'm either going to
shoot good or fast and shoot bad, one of the two.
I'm going to get to that steak.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
So you're back.
What's next for you?
What are you planning on going?
Where are you going next?
Shoot once, that's a goodquestion.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I recently had to drop a couple of events.
These next couple weeks havework come up?
You know, I would love, youknow, to focus more on shooting,
but you know, sometimes we gotto pay the bills and so I have
work and where do you work?
But I think I work with CraigGraham with AgriMed
(43:35):
International.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay, Okay, good, Didn't he?
He was some sort of sponsor upthere.
I think he sponsored some.
I saw his name.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yes, sir, he uh, he was a water sponsor for the
water hospitality.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Hey, sometimes that's all you can get.
You know, I tried to.
I tried to call one time on asponsorship for a company and
they said you can have theshuttle cart.
So well, okay, get what you canget.
So you're going to US Open,though I know that you got to be
.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
The plan is to go to US Open.
Yes, sir, good, I've actuallybeen to Northbrook once.
It's a beautiful gun club.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It is.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
So it's pretty unique .
I like the rolling hills theyhave.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
You know, and I say this, people that listen to this
show will know this, but I'vebeen shooting for a minute, been
podcasting for a minute.
I've never been to Eminem.
Really yeah, I keep saying I'mgoing to go, that's the only
place I really want to go.
You know I don't know thatthere's another place that I
(44:44):
really want to go.
I'd like to go to EJ overseas,but I really want to go to them.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, maybe we can go to World next year at EJ, me
and you.
Well, I will say this Anthonydoes have a beautiful gun club.
He has a course for everyterrain.
Really, to be honest with you,I think my most favorite course
is a course that you knowthey're not even throwing no
targets, except for the practicecourse.
(45:08):
The practice course is over themarsh with all the ducks.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
So you had a good time.
Sum it all up you had a goodtime, I guess.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes, sir, that was my second time being at M&M and he
hadn't disappointed.
You know there can always be.
You know you can always try togo towards perfection, you can
always try to get better, buthe's about got it wrapped up.
He's as good as he can get.
Yeah, he's got it, he's almostgot it there.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, good, I'm glad you did.
Well, you know I know your dad,your mom's proud, and Trey and
all them.
You know I'm glad you did.
Well, I know your dad, yourmom's proud, and Trey and all
them.
I'm glad, shells, he does helpme out with that.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I've been Shooting BMP, f2, mops, 1300 feet per
second.
I don't have a preference on7.5 or 8.
You know that part don't botherme, but I have been shooting
them for a while.
But you know who can go wrongwith a good old Winchester
double a.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
You know, super handy yeah that's right yeah that's
right, but you know, I didn'tknow, I didn't know what.
Uh, I've never even asked youthat.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So that if I this is kind of a gray area for me,
cause you know I, I say I prefera area for me because you know
I, I say I prefer a certainshell, you know.
But I really, to be honest withyou, no matter if you give me a
certain shell, I will say itdoes take me a couple practice
shots or heck, even sometimes ittakes me a month to make sure
(46:58):
that I know that I'm in rhythmwith the shell.
Because, you know, some peoplesay, oh, I can't tell a
difference between the 1300 feetper second to a 1250 or a 1235,
whatever you name.
But really your body reactswith it different and it does
adjust.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah Well, I guess you're good at adjusting, yes
sir.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
But other than that, though, I shoot a K80.
A long time ago I was shootingBrowning Satoris, but whenever
my shooting game increased Ineeded a more reliable gun
because I was constantly puttingin parts and fixing my Satoris
(47:49):
and as many rounds as I wasputting through because that's
when I was going throughcollegiate and going through
NSCA and just my shootingincreased like 100% percent and
so, um, I was kind of pushedtowards the k80 and ever since I
got it I've been happy.
Ever since I've my studentsdefinitely increased ever since
(48:10):
I got it well, good, what.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
This is where we wrap it up.
Big dog, I could do a wholenother episode with you and ask
you questions that you haven't,we haven't even talked about,
but I wanted to.
I wanted to go over what wewent over.
I mean, you know the worldchampionship you're doing as
well as you have.
I appreciate you taking sometime with me and talking about
these things.
Congratulations on as well asyou did.
(48:36):
It's not stopping here.
I mean, you know that.
So anybody you want to thank, Ireally enjoyed it Good.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
I really just want to thank for my family and Trey
and everybody that's helped meand supported me along the way.
I'm not like everybody else,having a buttload of sponsors to
help me get there.
So me and my family and Trey,you know they're the ones that
(49:06):
helped me get to where I am, soI all the credit goes to them
and you know and I, other thanthat, I just enjoyed you know
shooting and I always will, andhopefully we can continue going
up from here.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, that's right.
Well, going up from here?
Yeah, that's right, all right,thank you, buddy.
I'll see you at the next one.
I don't know which one that'llbe.
I'm sure I'll be at one thatyou're at.
So, uh, come holler at me willdo justin.
Thank you, all right, buddy,we'll see you.
(49:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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in this episode, I have a guy from eastman, georgia
on with me that is a top 10finisher at the recent world
Sporting Place Championship.
He's been shooting a while nowand in the past few years it's
common to see his name at thetop of most shoots he's
attending.
I'm glad to have him on with mehere.
He is Wyatt Hargrove.
Wyatt, welcome to the show, man.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Thank you for having me, Justin.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Is this the first podcast you've ever done?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yes, sir, it is.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Did you ever think old Georgia boy from down in the
country be on a podcast aboutshooting a shotgun?
I guess you would, but in thissituation maybe not no, not, not
really.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh, I wouldn't expect this day to come well, the
day's here right so yes, sir, itis all right.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So, uh, for those of you who don't know why, why just
tell everybody who you are.
You know where you live, and,and we'll go from there all
right.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Well, uh, my name is Wyatt Hargrove, I am from
Eastman Georgia, which is incentral Georgia.
Uh, I've been shooting forabout 14 years, uh,
competitively 10.
Uh, you know, I'm about to be25 years old and just I like to
shoot, and so far we're turningit into a more of a productive
(02:39):
sport than just a hobby sport.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So I didn't realize you've been shooting that that
long yes, sir, yep wow, well, itshowed all right.
So, uh, I messaged you theother day.
I said, hey, we need to do apodcast why it finished m3 in
the world world championship upat m&m and I kind of want to get
(03:02):
a story.
You know, I mean m3 at the.
Basically, that's what is that?
That's six overall, is thatright?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yes, sir, is the top six.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, so six overall.
He got to experience a superfinal Um, and I just kind of
want to get to the point towhere he is now.
I mean, it's it's, it's pretty,it's pretty cool to me.
You know, I I kind of rememberyou from several years back and
you were just a shooter and itseems here recently that you're
up at the top a lot.
(03:32):
When did you really startgetting into it?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The past three or four years maybe, with NSCA.
Well, I've really gotten trulyhard to decor with NSCA.
When I got about 19, 20 yearsold, so roughly five years ago
I've always shot SCTP and 4.8growing up and whenever it
(03:57):
started getting time to looking,you know, does this end here or
does you know can I continue iton?
And I found NSCA and startedjust going to a couple of state
shoots, some, you know, justsmall registered shoots here and
there.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, you shot.
For what college you go to?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I went to a manual college, which is now manual
university, but while I wasthere there it was a manual
college up in north georgia theydidn't get big time turned into
a university yes, sir, they did.
Uh, they kind of made me wish Ican go back and uh change my
diploma so how, how?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
when you went to school, did you go to school and
knew and know you were going tobe a?
You wanted to shoot sportingclays, trap and skeet, and all
that for college.
Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
no, sir.
So, like I said, you know,whenever it got to the time of
wondering, okay, is thereshooting beyond this, beyond
sctp and 4-8, um, my mom,actually you know she said, okay
, do you, do you want to playfootball in college or do you
want to see if there's anycolleges that might have a
(05:09):
shooting team?
I said, well, it won't hurt togo out there and look.
And so we looked on theInternet and the first thing
that popped up was a malecollege's clay target team.
And we reached out to JohnSheelyely, who is still the
director of the program nice, soyou shot there, for I guess you
(05:31):
got a four-year degree rightyes, sir, I did.
Yep, yeah, I shot there for fouryears and it was a blessing.
And I, if I had to go back, youknow people ask me do you wish
you can go back to GeorgiaSouthern?
Or, you know, would you staywith Emanuel College?
I said, well, I made a name formyself at Emanuel College, and
so I still, to this day, pickEmanuel College over Georgia
(05:55):
Southern.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
All right.
So let's talk about that for asecond, because there's a lot of
kids that are in the sport, alot of kids coming up and want
to do kind of what you did.
What?
What uh advantages do you seein shooting college and what
would you?
What kind of path, I guessyou'd say, would you recommend
somebody that wants to shoot incollege to go down?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So, um, whenever I took this path, Georgia Southern
at the time didn't have a team,so Emanuel was kind of the only
one in the state of Georgiathat or let me rephrase that
Emanuel College was the onlyscholarship team in Georgia.
(06:39):
Uga and ABAC down in Tiftonthey all had club teams.
But the difference between ascholarship team and a club team
is that the scholarship youknow you have, a scholarship
that helps pay for your fundingfor shooting Club team is all
out of pocket.
So that was one direction Iwent in.
(07:02):
Now I don't know if anycolleges have changed.
If you know, georgia Southernmay have a scholarship team.
Now I have no clue.
But also I would tell kids toreally consider yes, shooting is
great and all, but reallyconsider what degree and what
path you want, because somecolleges don't have the program
(07:26):
that you might want to go intoor they might not offer what you
really want.
Don't settle for less.
Get your degree first, because,as I was shooting, school was
always first.
That was my first job.
Shooting was just a luxury partof it.
Yeah, um, yeah.
(07:48):
So, other than that, that'swhat I would advise people that
want to go into further shooting, into collegiate.
They need to put that inconsideration as well.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
There's several and you'll have to name them because
I don't know them, but I knowthey went there.
Several uh people that went toemmanuel that's actually doing
pretty well now which whatshooters are they that that went
there?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
you have uh, aaron copeland, uh graham eubanks,
eric brown, uh john dean,daniels colton evans, um the the
list goes on and on and on.
Ambus, powell all those guys.
I've shot with them and they'refantastic shots.
(08:32):
Some of them aren't shooting asheavily as I am some of them
just decided to focus more onwork but all of them are great
shots.
You can always look them up.
You know they're well known,especially when it came to you
shooting um so, but some of themare still out there shooting
(08:53):
still yeah, okay, so let's let'stalk about.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I'm gonna put you on the spot with this question.
It's not a hard question, butyou probably aren't ready for
this.
What?
What shoots have you finishedwell at in the past two years?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
past two years I have done successfully well the most
recent one here at the world um.
Before that I I finished acouple side events at gator cup,
seminole Cup, southeastRegional.
I've done well all their fivestand and super sporting events
(09:30):
and feet ass.
But a major one that somepeople have noticed.
I don't know if anybody reallyhas noticed but uh, was the
South Carolina State back in 22or, yes, 22.
It was at Morey's.
I took home the South CarolinaState title so it was pretty
(09:55):
great.
That was the underdog story, ifyou know it was.
It was a battle for that one.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, tell it.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's what we're here for.
Well, we're so.
Morey's was my first time everbeing there and I thought they
were running both main events onthe same day, but everybody
shot the same course on Saturdayand the same course on Sunday.
Well, eric Dorsey set theSaturday main and I thought it
was great targets, don't get mewrong, but I thought they were a
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little bit on the easier side.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Eric, is that easy targets, Surprisingly, I know.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
So I shot a 90.
There was Richard Cheek aheadof me with a 92.
Turner Parcell ahead of me witha 94.
Brandon Powell, rick Hemingway,mike Longo and several others
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were leading it by 95.
So from the leader, I was fivetargets behind.
So we go into the Sunday main.
So from the leader, I was fivetargets behind, so we go into
the Sunday main.
I was shooting the 12 o'clockrotation on Sunday.
Everybody that was ahead of mewas shooting the three o'clock.
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Well, I was just enjoying myday.
The first rotation went outthere and shot.
I didn't go on score chaser,but everybody else was.
They were keeping track of it.
Well, Kyle Millwood, he shotthe 9 o'clock rotation on Sunday
and he was the leader for hisrotation, know his rotation, and
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he shot a low, low, 80, high,70 and everyone else below him
were in the 60s, 50s and below.
But I had no clue about, Iwasn't looking on score chaser.
So then I go out there firstFirst station.
I lost dead.
I said great, great start.
So then my gun breaks.
The top latch on my K80 waslocked and I couldn't get it to
open.
So I was shooting with a fellowthat had a K80 Parkour 34-inch
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barrel and he said hey, real,real quick, there's some targets
out there in the grass, justdrill two shots and see if you
line up.
Perfect, so I take it.
Boom, boom, looks good.
I had one of my buddies come upand he said hey, I can take
your gun to Mike and granny ifyou wish.
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I said yes, please, I wouldfeel more comfortable about it.
So he hauls butt up there toMike and Granny.
Well, I shoot the next twostations with this gentleman's
gun and I hadn't dropped atarget.
These targets to me at the timethey didn't seem like they were
high difficulty, but they theyreally were.
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I get two or three stationsdown the road, I see my gun
coming back and I look at thisstation.
It's two tower shots that wereprobably 55 yards away and I
said, ooh, what do I need to do?
So I finally decided to go backto my gun.
Nothing changed.
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Ran the station, I said perfect.
To go back to my gun.
Nothing changed.
Ran the station.
I said perfect, we're back inbusiness.
So we're going along.
Get to about station two orthree and there's a Rabu
Shondell and a standard Shondellacross the pond.
They were landing about 45-, 50yards.
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It was a two-pair station.
I only hit one target so Idropped three targets there.
Last two stations I droppedanother target had a 95.
So I thought at the time I waslike man Brandon and Mike Longa
and Rick Hemingway and Turnerthey're all going to shoot this.
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Very well, they still got afive target lead on me.
They can shoot a good 93, 92and still win.
I had nothing for the rest ofthe day.
I hang out with Mike and Grannyand tell them thank you for
fixing my gun.
About five o'clock rolls aroundand the first person to come
and congratulate me was BrandonPowell.
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He got out of uh Chip Welch'sbuggy and he came and shook my
hand.
He said congratulations, you'rethe new South Carolina state
champion.
I kind of looked at himdumbfounded.
I said what do you mean?
You pull my leg?
And he said no, you just wantit.
And he shot a 89 on that course, putting me one target ahead of
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him.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So Brandon can be beat?
Oh, he shot an 88.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
My bad, yes, sir, he can.
He can be beat.
I'm just making sure.
Yes, sir, he is human, but uhwell good mike will long go.
He shot low 80s, turner shot uhuh 88 as well, I think, and
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rick henway shot at 89.
So I got to take home the title, not in state but out of state,
but really I took it all yeah,well, good for you.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I didn't even know that story.
I don't even know you won thatyes, sir, that's what I'm saying
.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It was a real underdog story, and that was
also the year that braxtonoliver had that bad wreck.
Um, he didn't get to competeyeah, yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Talk about targets.
You brought up targets just asan example.
You said that some targets satyou, somebody sat, you thought a
little, were a little easy, andthen you said these are really
difficult.
What is your take on howtargets should be set at a
tournament?
What do you think?
How do you think they should beset?
Do you think they should be setone easy course, one hard
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course, both hard courses, twoeasy courses?
What do you feel is fair?
Because there's a lot ofconversation and a lot of talk
going on about targets?
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
my take on that is the target setter has a job.
He can either set it completelyhard for your top 5% of shooters
that are here to prove a pointand see who's the best, or they
can set it a little bit softerfor the rest of your crowd than
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the ones that are really comingjust to enjoy the event and just
to shoot and be a part of theevent.
But my take on it is they stillhave a job, but I do believe
that they do need to have itwhere it still has a difficulty
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for us that are in the top 5% to10% but still doable for the
rest of your competitors,because if you do set it just
for us, then you're gonna loseyour money base with the rest.
If you set it too soft, thensome of us we kind of get I
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wouldn't say discouraged but weget kind of get I wouldn't say
discouraged, but we get kind ofconflicted and we're not
satisfied and we kind of getbored and we don't tend to shoot
our best.
Yeah, but I've heard this manytimes from many people the easy
targets count just as much asthe hard targets, which is a
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hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Um, so to me the best way it's like a two day main or
a three day main.
Let's have, you know, onecourse being your softer course,
maybe a couple of hard targetsor a couple of hard stations on
it, kind of build your way up.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, listen to this.
What scares you most as far asa target is concerned?
A very slow rabbit or a veryfast Shondell?
Which one scares you the most?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well, I'm just going to throw this out there for all
the target setters.
If you just want to beat methat desperately, throw all
Shondells, because Sh Bells aremy worst weakness really I
thought you was going to say therabbit.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I thought you would say the rabbit no sir, I
actually enjoy the rabbit.
It's something different everytime all right, let's try it
again, because I wanted theother answer.
All right, so a very slow RickHemingway flopper or a fast
crosser which is harder to hitfor you, the flopper, I'm
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telling you that's kind of thequote when I asked you about the
rabbit If it's slow and it'sbarely moving, oh my God, you
can get.
There's no telling how manypeople you can beat with that.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yep.
You know, those slow, justbarely moving targets.
I'm sure you're going to getinto this later in this podcast,
but I'm more of a maintainedlead shooter than I am any other
technique.
But I have been known to figureout that on the slower ones I
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need to do a swing through andcome from behind.
And this is the slower ones.
They get me every time.
If you give me a 40-yard fullspring crosser, I'm your man,
I'm going to get it.
But if it comes to slow targets, loopers, you got me.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's a wrap, all right.
So let's talk about the WorldChampionship Now.
Listen, wyatt.
Okay, it's a wrap, alright.
So let's talk about the worldchampionship Now.
Listen, wyatt.
Okay, I think you're probablygoing to be the first person to
talk about these targets On.
Everybody's seen Nick Barry'svideos and videos and Whoever's
posted videos wherever, but Idon't know that anybody's talked
about it yet.
So you're going to be the firstperson, so you need to do a
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good job, okay, alright, solet's start out with your week.
World Championship was lastweek.
All right, yes, sir, how wasthe event?
Let's just talk about that.
How was the event?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, I am kind of limited on talking about some of
these targets because I onlygot to shoot the tower challenge
, the feet, ass and the main.
I did hear that the Castellanipre limb and the super sporting
were good targets, but I nevergot to see him.
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I'm sure later on this weekI'll take some time and look at
Nick Barry's videos on them.
Um, but for as when it came tothe targets, I did get to see.
Tower challenge was somethingthat I thought would be cool and
it absolutely was.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Um how was that?
How was that?
Yeah, that's the first timeI've seen that.
Uh, how was it?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
He, he had seven kind of make sure I'm yep.
He had seven targets thrown outtowers and lifts and fire
trucks.
Um, I didn't.
When I saw it I thought it wasgoing to be kind of like a
sporting event, but he had itset up as five stand style.
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Um, it was really fun.
I enjoyed it.
Um, I only shot a 34 out of 50but it was.
It was fun because I don't getto shoot towers that much and I
thought that it was a prettyunique event and my whole squad
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you know they were laughing withme, we were laughing the entire
time.
You know there were shots thatin pairs that would just seemed
wow, how can I pick up on thatbird before it hits 100 yards
away?
You know, yeah, so it was.
It was challenging.
But I think we need to see moreof those kind of events because
not everybody gets to see atower shot.
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You know, not everybody gets tosee towers it seems like in
georgia.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Correct me, other than a couple.
Uh, I don't know where do yousee towers at in georgia.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I guess forest city maybe forest city, meadows, old
hudson and big red oak.
All right, so all of them.
So I guess I just hadn't seenany of them.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Meadows, old Hudson and Big Red Oak so I guess I
just haven't seen any of themwell, I wouldn't say all of them
.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Down here at Gator Creek we have like a 25 foot
tower, but it ain't no lift oranything like that.
Elberton, up there in ElbertonCounty they're quarries, so
they're quite opposite.
You're shooting downwardinstead of upward.
Um, you know, there there's acouple other gun clubs here in
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Georgia that don't you knowCherokee Rose.
They have a couple of 20 foottall towers.
They don't have no lifts.
Yeah, yeah, you know not, notevery gun club has them, but
yeah, that that I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I guess it's just the background.
Maybe when you're shooting upat something, the line, if a
target's going up, I don't knowwhat it is with me.
I have a hard time with towers.
A lot of people do.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
The best advice I can give for that is act like
you're in a dove field.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, I guess, so that's where they're at.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
They're flying above you right.
Yes, sir all right.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So, anyway, you shoot the tower challenge.
I'm looking at scores right nowzach shot 34.
I mean nick barry shot 34, youshot 34.
Cory crew shot 35.
So you're right there with Imean those, all of them guys
right there, they know how toshoot, you know.
So, um, so you shoot the towerchallenge, then you shoot the
tower challenge, then you shootthe main.
Let's talk, let's talk aboutthe main, because that's what
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that's, you know, that's whateverybody's talking about,
that's what wins it.
So what about the main?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
yes, sir.
So first day main I shoot thedt11 course.
The dt11 was preferred as, like, the medium course.
Okay To me.
I wouldn't say that.
The only reason why I say thatis because I saw a lot of
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repetitive targets on there.
I saw a lot of trap shots.
I saw, you know, just a lot ofloopers, you know.
It seemed there was a lot ofteals.
You know I saw the same target,maybe different background,
maybe a different position, buteventually I saw the same target
repetitively on that coursesomewhere on there, um, not just
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at different gun clubs but atanthony's.
It was the same thing over andover.
So I shot it well, don't get mewrong.
Uh, I shot it very well.
But I, you know, I've beenstruggling with first day main
event, you know, keeping my headin the game and I really was
focused on doing well, and sothat helped me get through that
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repetitive state yeah, and I'mlooking at the scores.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You shot it the best.
So, uh, you shot dt11 the firstday, um then I shot the sl2
second day okay, how was it?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
sl2.
Um, to the crowd it seemed tobe the easiest to me.
It had a little bit moretechnicality in it.
There were different style oftargets.
It did have me interested butwhat got me was I Guess I never
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looked on score chaser, atscores.
But you know you're gonna hearpeople talk about oh I shot this
or so and so shot this.
So when I went into sl2 I wentinto a careful, kind of you know
, cautious state instead ofbeing aggressive like I like to
be, and I started shooting otherpeople's games.
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I wasn't shooting wyatt's game.
There were targets that Inormally would shoot either off
the arm or I would let itdevelop a little bit more and
you know I would just do quiteopposite of what I would have
done.
And after I missed that targeton the first or second pair,
I'll, you know, shoot it the wayyou post to and I run the rest
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and I run the rest.
Other than that, those targets,they were a little bit more
interesting to me and had alittle bit more technicality to
it than DT11.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
All right, so 694 is last, I guess, for you, and that
was your worst score.
Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
How was it.
Well, the reason why and I thinkthat everyone else would agree
when I say this it was thebigger targets, it was the
divider state of course.
Um, there those targets were.
They were really good targets Ihad.
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Joe Skoll did a very well goodjob setting targets.
I enjoyed that course the mostand people are probably going to
be like why you shot thatcourse the worst, you're not
going to like that, why shouldyou like that course?
But heck, no, that leaves moreroom for me to perfect it than
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the easier courses.
You know and I enjoy bigger andharder, more difficult, more
difficult targets than most.
So the Team USA representativesthey got to shoot the 694 the
first day and you know I'mfriends with Brandon Powell and
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he comes up to me and said howdid you shoot today?
And I told him I shot DT11 andshot a 60.
He said, well, I shot a 61 on694, and boy, those were some
targets.
I said, well, if you say thosewere some targets and you shot
that, then you should really dogreat on the DT11 because it
wasn't technically that hard.
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He said, okay, great.
And that was the only time Iheard scores.
You know, heard everybody elsesay, oh, I shot this, I shot
that.
So I kind of put myself in thatrange.
Second day, like I said, gotcareful.
But after the second day, onSaturday, I did not hear not a
single thing about scores and Ikept to my word that I wasn't
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going to look on score chaser.
So I had no clue what positionI was in.
So going into 694, I just shot.
I went in there and I ran myfirst six stations and they were
not, you know, no gimme targets.
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They were big lead, big gaptargets, um, very challenging to
most of your common shootersyeah then I drop one, run the
next couple, I get station twowhere everyone kept talking
about, oh, oh, george Digweed.
George Digweed zeroed thatstation.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Well, I was going to ask that next.
But yeah, go ahead and talkabout that.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Well, I can see why he zeroed it, but I luckily got
out of there with a four, but ofcourse it had a Shondell on it,
so I was faking in my boots.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
What were the targets doing?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
It was a quartering left to the right Machine was
probably, I don't know, 25, 30yards full spring going down the
tree line.
Spring going down the tree line.
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second bird was a fundale almostalmost full edge, like it was
going directly away from you,yep, and it was going.
It was going about 40 feet inthe air, um, but I don't know
why I do it, but every time Isee a target like that I just
shoot 10 miles in front of itbut I go in there.
I dead loss.
I said all you shot in front,the dead paired and then the
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last pair lost dead.
So I just didn't get on theline for the quartering target,
um, but you know, that was avery rough station and I mean
George probably should have shot, you know, maybe four or five
out of six.
But you know, going intostation two, I didn't think that
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was the station that he zeroedbecause I looked at it and I
said, nah, this can't be the one.
Station three was a powerstation.
Station three was a powerstation.
It had a MIDI on report 110international target.
And that was when I looked.
Everybody said, oh, this is thestation George zero, it's got
to be.
And I looked at the numbers oh,this is station three.
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He's zero.
Two, yeah, but yeah.
I enjoy harder targets, and Joedid a very good job with that
court.
I enjoyed it the most.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It was something different every time.
He did so good he got a newlogo Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Joe's got a logo now, Joe Skull.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Heck yeah, I like Joe Every time I see now Joe skull
Heck.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, joe, I like Joe .
Every time I see him he's, he'sfun to talk to.
I'm glad he did good.
And you know the targets.
I mean you got to think whenyou're setting three main event
courses, you know.
I mean there's only so manytargets you can throw.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean it's.
I can understand where maybesome repetitiveness happens.
You know that's, that's that'scool.
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I mean so uh interesting.
You shot 60.
You talked about the DT 11, um,and Brandon shot 59.
So yes, it sounds like you didpretty good on that one.
But anyway, you finished master, master, third, m3 and uh, then
you got to go to the superfinal and I mean, I know you
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fairly well enough that you'rejust a, you're one of them, good
old boys.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You know how did it feel to know that you're about
to go to a super final worldchampionship well, um, to be
honest with you, justin, um, Ihad a couple people come watch
me shoot the last couplestations on the 694 course, yeah
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, and I noticed that they werewatching me.
We had a long wait on my laststation and I went up to them
and I think they were on scorechaser and they were all
whispering, talking about thescore and I walked over and they
all kind of just got quiet.
I said what is it?
They said we're just, we'rejust talking.
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I said you're talking aboutsomething.
And y'all looking nervous.
They said well, why you're?
You're at where you need to be.
And I said well, hey, this ismy last station.
I looked, it was Chip Welch.
I said Chip, where am I at?
He said I want to tell you, butthen I don't.
I said well, I kind of need youto tell me.
And he said Wyatt, if you runthis station, you're in.
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If you drop one, you're stillin.
If you drop one, you're stillin.
If you drop all three, you haveto go in a shoot off to get in.
And I looked down.
I said, well, no problem, I'mjust gonna go run the station.
I ended up shooting two out ofthree.
So after I got off the stationthey were all you know, they
were all tearing that.
I got in and that's what I knewright then.
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And there I was, in um, my dad.
He was a nervous wreck.
He smokes Marlboro Gold and Icould tell he was looking at
scores because he's back therepacing back and forth and I
think he smoked two whole packsright then and there on one
station.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But he didn't have no beer with him, did he?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
No God.
No he was, he was shooting.
I told him leave the alcohol inthe truck I didn't know he was
shooting with you yep, he.
He said he wanted to participateand so we got him in.
But uh, yeah, I I could tellthings were tight whenever I
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look over and he's over therepacing back and forth and
smoking two whole packs ofcigarettes.
That's funny.
I think he was more excitedthan anyone about it.
He was definitely more excitedthan I was because, like I said,
if you would have told me aweek ago that why would you see
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yourself in the super final, Iwould have said if you would
have told me a week ago that whywould you see yourself in the
super final, I would have said,heck, no, I don't see that day
coming for a while.
But going into the shoot-offthough I guess a lot of people
know me a little bit betterthrough make-or-break shoot-offs
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.
I guess a lot of people know mea little bit better through
make a break shoot offs.
Um, I am a make a break fanatic.
I love doing it, it's fun, um,but the super final shoot off
was definitely a different beastthan a make a break shoot off.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
They were throwing all sevens, weren't they?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, they, they were seven birds, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I tried to watch nick's video and you could see
some.
It's like you know, it's sohard to video that kind of stuff
, especially with the way nickdoes it, but he does a good job
with what he's got.
But you couldn't see most ofthem.
So what were they?
Just big, far targets ahead ofme.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Yep, there were some On the first stand.
We had probably a 50-yard kindof just out there.
It was a 90 maybe.
No, it was a standard.
The first one was a standard,it was about 50 yards.
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It was just slow rising target.
And then the second bird wasoverhead tower.
That was on full spring.
So of course I get the furthertarget and I hit all of it and
it took me to my last pair tofinally figure out the lead that
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it took for that overhead tower.
Um, I just kept letting the birdbeat me and I never get enough
lead yeah so the second standhad a 90 millimeter going
straight up in the air and thenfalling right back down, 60
yards away most likely, and thenit was forgot.
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The other target on that stand.
But I struggled with the 90.
I kept trying to shoot it whileit was still rising and when I
pulled the trigger it was stillgoing past my shot.
So my last pair I said let itdrop and let it fall, and I hit
it.
Then the last stand this iswhere I threw it all away.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
All right so if you'd have ran this last stand, where
would you have finished?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
If I would have ran the last one, I would have
finished.
I'm trying to do the math realquick.
Make sure I say this correctlythere was nine shots.
On the last one I had a 13.
I would have gotten um.
I would have gotten secondoverall.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Okay, All right.
So you know that, going intothis, I'm sure at this at this
time, Yep, so well, I didn sureat this time, yep.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, I didn't know necessarily, I would get second
overall.
I just knew that I would get apodium position if I did really
well on this stand.
Okay, and the first target wasa Rabu Shondell, shondell, yep,
we get full use of the gun, so Iwasn't necessarily as nervous.
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Um then, the next uh pair thatwe had was a full spring right
to left uh crosser, dialed in,kept shooting in front of the
Sean Bell and I once I missed ittwice back to back.
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I kind of just something didn'tgo through my head and I ended
up losing both of the last twopairs and it dropped me down to
the last spot, which was masterthird.
Wow, and that's the one on thevideo that Brandon got up there
and shot a hundred miles an houryes, sir, he, uh, when he gets
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to going and he has a crowd thatyou know, that can vibe with
him, that can get on his levelof energy.
I think it was like at first itstarted with one guy and then
all of a sudden, after like thesecond pair, when he, he was
loading the gun and he, andbefore he even closed it, he, he
was calling pull and you knowthey just said, yeah, brandon,
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keep going.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I heard that he just kept speeding up.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yep, and once he was on he was on and you know I'm
proud of him.
You know he's done it all, Ibelieve, except for go win it
overseas.
But yeah, he turned it on and Iwish I was there on that same
level he was, but I think he wason a mission.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah it's.
Uh, I'm proud.
All y'all at the top.
I mean you know david.
I mean you don't see david atmany shoots anymore.
I saw him more this year than Ihave you know finished runner
up and Turner.
I mean I said this a while backthat Turner was going to be a
problem.
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And here he is, and you know yougot Jasper and and, and you,
and I mean Christopher Keller, Imean you got a bunch of guys up
there that are.
You know I'm just proud ofeverybody that that finished and
and and did well, so it's, andI know you're, you're proud of
yourself.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I mean that's, that's , that's saying something right
there, why you know that yes,sir, yes sir, I think I'm just
really proud that the majorityof us were from the southeast
region of the united states, youknow yeah, I always said that
the southeast region of theunited states was your best.
Yeah, I always said that theSoutheast reason in the United
States was your best region tohave competition.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
So we'll take, we'll take.
Let's see the tops.
Uh, let's take from uh, HOAdown that master to M five.
Okay, so you got.
You got Brandon, Southeast,Turner, Southeast Jasper,
Southeast you, Southeast, Zachand Wendell, both Southeast.
So one, two, so six, six of youare from Tennessee, southeast
(41:09):
All right, chris, chris Keller.
So that's seven.
So David's the only one in thatwhole group that's from the
North.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
That's crazy.
I didn't even think about thatwhen you said that.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I, we were really proud.
Hey, I'm.
I'm proud that.
I'm proud that three out ofwell, technically you got
Wendell.
He's down in gay Georgia, butZach me, Jasper Brandon, we're
all Georgia.
I was proud of that as well.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, that's pretty neat.
Out of 1,622 shooters.
I was proud of that as well.
Yeah, yeah, that's, that'spretty neat, you know, out of uh
, 1,622 shooters.
I mean it's saying somethingyou know as far as, as far as
the shoots concerned and overall, I mean it was, I'm sure it was
ran right.
You know you're up in Eminem.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yes, sir, I will say they did run the world.
That was my first world, by theway.
They ran it really well thatmany shooters, some gun clubs,
wouldn't even have the thoughtof running that size of a
tournament, but they ran itreally well.
(42:21):
I didn't hear no problems whenit came to you know traffic or
you know parking or whatsoeverHospitality was great.
I always enjoyed the Italianfood up there in that area.
So you know me and you, we'rebig guys.
(42:41):
So our main objective sometimesis food.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh yeah, and I'm going to tell you something.
If you want me to shoot, good,put a steak at the end of it.
Yes, sir, you got that 100%correct, I'm either going to
shoot good or fast and shoot bad, one of the two.
I'm going to get to that steak.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
So you're back.
What's next for you?
What are you planning on going?
Where are you going next?
Shoot once, that's a goodquestion.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
I recently had to drop a couple of events.
These next couple weeks havework come up?
You know, I would love, youknow, to focus more on shooting,
but you know, sometimes we gotto pay the bills and so I have
work and where do you work?
But I think I work with CraigGraham with AgriMed
(43:35):
International.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay, Okay, good, Didn't he?
He was some sort of sponsor upthere.
I think he sponsored some.
I saw his name.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yes, sir, he uh, he was a water sponsor for the
water hospitality.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Hey, sometimes that's all you can get.
You know, I tried to.
I tried to call one time on asponsorship for a company and
they said you can have theshuttle cart.
So well, okay, get what you canget.
So you're going to US Open,though I know that you got to be
.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
The plan is to go to US Open.
Yes, sir, good, I've actuallybeen to Northbrook once.
It's a beautiful gun club.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It is.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
So it's pretty unique .
I like the rolling hills theyhave.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
You know, and I say this, people that listen to this
show will know this, but I'vebeen shooting for a minute, been
podcasting for a minute.
I've never been to Eminem.
Really yeah, I keep saying I'mgoing to go, that's the only
place I really want to go.
You know I don't know thatthere's another place that I
(44:44):
really want to go.
I'd like to go to EJ overseas,but I really want to go to them.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, maybe we can go to World next year at EJ, me
and you.
Well, I will say this Anthonydoes have a beautiful gun club.
He has a course for everyterrain.
Really, to be honest with you,I think my most favorite course
is a course that you knowthey're not even throwing no
targets, except for the practicecourse.
(45:08):
The practice course is over themarsh with all the ducks.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
So you had a good time.
Sum it all up you had a goodtime, I guess.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes, sir, that was my second time being at M&M and he
hadn't disappointed.
You know there can always be.
You know you can always try togo towards perfection, you can
always try to get better, buthe's about got it wrapped up.
He's as good as he can get.
Yeah, he's got it, he's almostgot it there.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, good, I'm glad you did.
Well, you know I know your dad,your mom's proud, and Trey and
all them.
You know I'm glad you did.
Well, I know your dad, yourmom's proud, and Trey and all
them.
I'm glad, shells, he does helpme out with that.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
I've been Shooting BMP, f2, mops, 1300 feet per
second.
I don't have a preference on7.5 or 8.
You know that part don't botherme, but I have been shooting
them for a while.
But you know who can go wrongwith a good old Winchester
double a.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
You know, super handy yeah that's right yeah that's
right, but you know, I didn'tknow, I didn't know what.
Uh, I've never even asked youthat.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
So that if I this is kind of a gray area for me,
cause you know I, I say I prefera area for me because you know
I, I say I prefer a certainshell, you know.
But I really, to be honest withyou, no matter if you give me a
certain shell, I will say itdoes take me a couple practice
shots or heck, even sometimes ittakes me a month to make sure
(46:58):
that I know that I'm in rhythmwith the shell.
Because, you know, some peoplesay, oh, I can't tell a
difference between the 1300 feetper second to a 1250 or a 1235,
whatever you name.
But really your body reactswith it different and it does
adjust.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah Well, I guess you're good at adjusting, yes
sir.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
But other than that, though, I shoot a K80.
A long time ago I was shootingBrowning Satoris, but whenever
my shooting game increased Ineeded a more reliable gun
because I was constantly puttingin parts and fixing my Satoris
(47:49):
and as many rounds as I wasputting through because that's
when I was going throughcollegiate and going through
NSCA and just my shootingincreased like 100% percent and
so, um, I was kind of pushedtowards the k80 and ever since I
got it I've been happy.
Ever since I've my studentsdefinitely increased ever since
(48:10):
I got it well, good, what.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
This is where we wrap it up.
Big dog, I could do a wholenother episode with you and ask
you questions that you haven't,we haven't even talked about,
but I wanted to.
I wanted to go over what wewent over.
I mean, you know the worldchampionship you're doing as
well as you have.
I appreciate you taking sometime with me and talking about
these things.
Congratulations on as well asyou did.
(48:36):
It's not stopping here.
I mean, you know that.
So anybody you want to thank, Ireally enjoyed it Good.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
I really just want to thank for my family and Trey
and everybody that's helped meand supported me along the way.
I'm not like everybody else,having a buttload of sponsors to
help me get there.
So me and my family and Trey,you know they're the ones that
(49:06):
helped me get to where I am, soI all the credit goes to them
and you know and I, other thanthat, I just enjoyed you know
shooting and I always will, andhopefully we can continue going
up from here.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Yeah, that's right.
Well, going up from here?
Yeah, that's right, all right,thank you, buddy.
I'll see you at the next one.
I don't know which one that'llbe.
I'm sure I'll be at one thatyou're at.
So, uh, come holler at me willdo justin.
Thank you, all right, buddy,we'll see you.
(49:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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