The Rose of Versailles Ep 7-9: If I hear the name Louis one more time!

This week the sun sets! But first, we catch up on what we’ve been doing. Sarah’s been hanging out with coworkers while Joe has been slogging through HunterXHunter.

In the Rose of Versailles, we cover a lot of ground. We finally meet Fersen and see how his love (?) affair with Marie might cause problems. Then we spend some time with Andre and his feelings. Lastly, our favorite prince and princess get a promotion as King Louis XV finally bites it!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome back to Sojo, the not just a recap and a podcast.

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We talk about stuff too and provide opinions and thoughts.
I'm your host Sarah, as always joined by the magnificent Joe that puts the Joe and
Shojo and we're showing Joe, Shojo anime.
That's the name.

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We're back with some more Rose Riverside coverage.
And before we get to that, let's catch up Galpal right after Gallantines Day.
Is the day before things?
No, the day before Valentine's Day.
Oh, he's like, Valentine's Day.
Or I don't know what this is.

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Galentines.
I just feel like all the events with your girlfriends.
That's what I thought too.
But I feel like I saw a bunch of Galentine events, but they all were not on Valentine's Day.
See, that's a cop out, right?
Because it's like Galentine Day is supposed to be you hanging out with your
girlfriends when you don't have a Valentine, right?
Yeah.
You make it inclusive that everybody, including people and couples can do it.

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It negates the entire point.
That's right.
Oh, you know, I don't know.
What's the what's the what's the fem version of bros before hose?
What's the?
Uh, Shakespeare for dicks.
There you go.
I feel like people are not adhering to the code.
If you're going to Galentine's Day days before.

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Well, if that's the day that it's all I went to a thing, I went to a single thing
on Thursday. It was quite fun.
I went with some co-workers of mine and.
Did you do?
It was like this.
I think it was hosted by some city dating app.
But but because it's like, make a profile, get a free drink.

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Oh, God.
And the name of the profile and the name of the app is called like first round
on me or something, which I'm like, oh, good Lord.
But the event itself is nice.
It was in like this this multi story place.
I had different bars on each story.
And yeah, it's fun just because I, you know, don't hang out with my co-workers

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much outside of work.
So just talking about like something other than work, you know,
so hype each other up and all my co-workers.
He's a pretty good wingman too bad.
Like I didn't realize he was trying to wingman me.
So I had like wandered off and he was like, meet my friend Sarah.
And then Sarah wasn't there.
Yeah.

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Well, so this seems like an interesting, I don't know.
How do you hang out with your co-workers at a dating event?
Because in the whole point, you're supposed to be talking to other people.
I know. Well, no, basically it was like three of us.
It was two dudes.
So I was like, don't leave me with one of you because then I'm not going to be
approachable, but basically we just chat in and hype each other up.

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And we all took turns kind of just like doing laps and.
Did you talk to anybody?
Yeah, someone talked to me.
It went that well, huh?
Well, I don't know.
I just feel like it's easier.
All girls are just so much more stylish than boys, aren't they?
I was like, gosh, it's so cute.

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And I was more so.
I'm at this all the time.
But yeah, looking at fashion options for guys are terrible.
And they're closing all the Joanns near me.
No, all of them.
How are you supposed to solve the fashion problem if they don't let you buy material?
I'm saying.
Bullshit.
Oh, no.

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So this app, what's the gimmick?
Well, I wish I could tell you because it like isn't working.
But. Oh.
But it does seem interesting because it seems to have like a feature where if
you like coordinate a date while you're in the app, it like has an app
calendar to log those things.

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Just kind of interesting.
OK.
But I don't know.
It wasn't working.
So I just I just all did.
I got my free drink.
And I also complimented this one guy on his sweet dance moves.
And he, I guess, worked for them.
So I got a second drink token.
So I got two free drinks.
Wow. Yeah.
He was he was on the job, probably.

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So he had to make it look like it was fun by dancing so well.
But I was impressed.
And.
Did you do anything for.
The day of love and all that.
No. No.
I didn't do anything.
See, that was Friday.
I played a bunch of civs six.
I haven't played civs seven yet because I don't know if I want to buy it for

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seventy dollars because that's way more money than I want to spend on anything.
So I just played six.
Ever go on sale.
Oh, yeah, like, it goes on sale all the time.
OK. Yeah, I don't love no monitor.
Why monitor fell asleep on me or something.
Wow. No, I can't see.
You're still there.

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Yeah. So I just played played some stuff.
What else did I do?
Did I do anything else?
No, not really.
I went to Joanne's didn't buy anything because I didn't know what I needed.
I was going to go today, but now it's snowing today.
So I don't know if I'm going to go today.
We'll see. I'm running out of time to go and buy a bunch of fabric patterns
that I don't know what to do with.
I bought one once and then, yeah, never did anything with it.

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I'll see. You got to commit.
I have so before.
So I could do it again.
I want to come in with something I want to actually do.
Oh, I guess I watched some anime.
Let's see. What did I watch?
I'm watching. I picked up Hunter, Hunter again.
So I'm watching a little bit of that.
Uh huh. Is it like carrying on?
Are you just stopped us or in point?
Yeah, well, I'm watching with some friends and we kept watching other stuff instead.

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And now we're just like, oh, we can pick this up again.
I have like 20 episodes of Chimera and Oracle left.
People say is one of the best arcs and it is incredibly boring.
I yeah, because I was on a chat on Twitch talk
and they were talking about how they were doing their like yearly Hunter, Hunter
watch or something. I was like, yeah, I saw that Chimera ants

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and they're like, what do you mean?
This is like the best.
It's like the last arc and everything.
So I guess it's an arc after it.
Is there? OK.
Yeah, it's also not finished.
And it could be more stuff come to come.
But yeah, it's still the worst pay show I've ever watched.
Normally, you know, I for like I watch, you know,

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like Gundam and stuff, those are all 50 episodes.
And usually by the end of it, I'm like, you probably could have gotten rid of like
10 of those episodes and lost nothing.
But like, I didn't dislike those 10 episodes.
You know what I mean? Because it felt like stuff was still kind of happening,
even if it wasn't that relevant.
That's kind of like the, I guess, the average of the amount you can get rid of.
But with Hunter, Hunter, I'm like, you know, a full 50 percent of this arc

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could have been cut out like Chimera is like two thirds.
You probably could have gotten rid of and it would have been better for it
because boy.
Like I watched six episodes, like basically the length of a feature length film.
And basically nothing had happened the whole time.
And it's incredible to me that people like hype this up as one of the best

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shown in shows of all time. Nothing happens for most of it.
It's crazy. Who knows?
Maybe the end will be so good.
I'll just forget about the parts where nothing happened for hours and hours.
Is that ever the case?
OK, maybe the shows I watch are never where it's like, well,
I just never come back to see the ending that could justify the rest of it.

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Sometimes it sometimes that's true.
Like I remember when I watched the Volatims for the first time,
like it really drags in the middle and then you get to the end and you're like,
well, this is the coolest shit ever.
But like if you remember how boring the middle arc,
like the fake Vietnam arc was like a little bit too long,
then you're just like, oh, yeah, right?
Got to try to do that again.
So it does happen sometimes, usually not to this extent.

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I'm usually not in this bad of an opinion about it for it to be able to recover.
But who knows?
Maybe it is the greatest show in an arc of all time
in the last 20 episodes exclusively.
And it's just things right?
Like I am I need my nice to look at anime people, not anime.
And yeah, they introduce all these ants.

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And I'm like, dude, I don't care about all these dumb politics
and their opinions about things.
Literally, who cares?
They're just like whatever bad guys.
It'd be like, you know how like the bad guys in Dragon Ball Z
are like goofy little weirdos?
I'm sure it'd be like a do or whatever.
Yeah, instead of just like hanging out with them for a little bit
and being like, look at how weird they are.

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We got like 30 episodes where they talk about their intentions
and what they want and their relationships with each other.
And then they all just get owned in one single fight.
So none of that mattered.
That happens multiple times in Hunter Hunter.
And I am astounded that we spent so much time
with these characters that just get owned very easily.

(09:19):
You watch or read you you Hawkeye show?
Yes, like a long time ago.
That's the same author, right?
Yeah, I mean, I like that.
I think I haven't rewatched it.
I know there's like a pretty guy with red hair.
So I'm like, I kind of want to watch it.

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I've only watched me the first 10 episodes, but.
That one's got a really good.
Like, I've heard I just looked back here.
But.
But yeah, so I'm watching that.
I'm still going almost done.
I only got like God, I have like 48 episodes left or so much.

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It's a whole season of like the old show.
Well, OK, I guess you were cut out for you.
Speaking of good show in our ex, I was at half price yesterday
and got like a bunch of bleach volumes.
I'm at the point now because I used to be like, I'm just only if I have the
I'm at the point where I'm buying complete series just because it's like,

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oh, the bulk of it is here and super cheap.
So I'll just somehow find the rest of the missing volumes later.
And so I bought volumes 15 through 27 and it just they don't have volume 20.
But yeah, like 50 bucks for that many volumes.
It was a good deal.

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That's good. I read it all through the app. So.
Yeah, I know.
I for real need another bookshelf.
It's bad.
My bleach opinions, I think, are known on this podcast.
Yes, I know. I'm like.
But now I know it gets like dumb at some point.

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Or like, I don't know, is there bad bleeps, Manga?
I like bought the series not knowing.
Now I have this series that if I want to complete it, it's going to include bad art.
It's not like I'm not saying it's bad.
It's just kind of like it's fine.
You know what I mean? Like it's not hitting on like that first arc is
really firing on all cylinders in a way that's like very impressive.

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And these other ones are just kind of like a generic shown.
But with characters that you like, so it's probably fun.
You know what I mean? OK, gotcha.
Well, I read about it.
Just know I do have a receipt, but there's no going back.
I like it. Yeah, yes.
See, I think this life is strange double exposure.

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All right, it's fine.
I just keep being the case.
There's like I just keep hoping and then helps aren't met.
And that's like, OK, it was OK. It was fine.
Fine game.
What were you hoping it was going to do?
Choices matter in a game where the whole thing is making choices, maybe.

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And then also like there's romantic interest.
And now it feels like the second dairy.
I mean, I went with the main option that gave me.
But now I'm like, oh, the second option doesn't even feel like an option now.
Why did you even give it to me?
And I don't.
Yeah, I just because it's like at the time, it's like, OK,

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it was kind of like a different game.
So I'll like let it fail at certain things it tries
because it was small in this map, but they like brought it back.
And, you know, you just hope that it's brought back to be better.
That is not the case.
I mean, it's less cringy, less cringe high school stuff.

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They don't say hella like they do in the first one.
So that's the way.
Yeah, it was OK.
Let's see.
I'm sure I'm almost done re-reading or reading through my claymore manga.
That's been pretty fun.
It's definitely interesting to see like how quickly

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because that's like a bunch of action scenes.
So I'm just like going through that book so fast.
But then I read something like toilet down Hanako Koon.
And it's like takes in the books are way skinnier,
but it takes so much longer to like read through that one
because there's so much more dialogue. Right.
Mm hmm. But liking it, I have like two volumes left.

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It's interesting because basically all the characters have the same features
where it's all like pale and all the same color.
So like they're really having to do like very detailed things
to make each character different because there's so many characters.
So what's a good hairstyles in that show?
Because they have to rely on that a lot to

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have personal styling to differentiate all these very similar.
They all claymore. Is that why?
Yeah, yeah.
Because that's like, I mean, I guess if you don't know,
they're like like a military order or something.
They're like half human, half
demon and someone they take in like the demon.

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Blood or whatever, like alters their parents.
And so they like lose all the color basically in them.
And they basically have like a uniform, right?
The ten of how they all look the same.
Uh huh. Yeah.
There's like slight differences in that.
But yeah.
But yeah, I'm enjoying.
I like the character more.
I like I just remember thinking they were cool.

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Like I don't like the the and the plot premise is cool.
But like, I just remember things seeming cool.
And that's why I remember the anime so much.
And it's definitely yeah, I'm enjoying it.
I guess I can get a final thought of that.
Sure, I finish it, but yeah.
Yeah. Nice.
Sure.
You know, not many shown in that end in 27 volumes,

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or at least not anymore.
Or maybe it's just the ones that are popular,
the ones that go on forever.
And so it seems like there's only so many short ones.
But it's actually just that for some reason,
we all want never ending stories that go on longer,
that allow for more failure opportunities.
That's the business model.
When you're releasing week to week,

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it's nice to not have to start over.
Mm hmm. Yes.
Yeah, I guess do anything else on.
Now, there's like stuff I'm like almost finished watching
that I don't really want to talk about now,
because I'm like, I might as well finish this
before I say stuff about it.
So.
Hmm. Oh, I guess invincible season three came out

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on Amazon.
It's been OK.
It's just like a weird series where things feel scattered.
But man, yeah, I guess I don't know.
Is that the nature of things based on graphic novels and comics
is that it's not the most continuous or we jump around a lot?
Because I don't know.

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I've never like watched any invincible
because it just seems like it's going to be a bummer.
So in like a graphic and like, yeah,
I'm like burnt out on like what are superheroes?
We're like a brutal through people.
Everybody was like realistic, which means like what if they were all assholes?
I'm like, yeah, I know what that would be like.

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But that's not that doesn't interest me in any way.
I'm just kind of like, yeah, whatever.
That's just every I just watch like a mob movie.
You know what I mean?
Like I can just watch anything like them being superheroes.
There's nothing for me at that point.
So yeah, I'm just like whatever.
Yeah, it's also teenagers, which I'm like, I just like I remember
being a teenager, but I'm like, I just feel like I don't like teenage characters.

(16:50):
They're brats. Yeah.
And then I'm supposed to I'm supposed to sympathize with them as a protagonist.
But I'm also like, I don't know.
You kind of suck right now.
And like and then I'm like at odds with plot and then I'll be dissatisfied.
Yeah.
Um, OK, OK, we can we can get it.

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All right.
We covered three episodes.
There's going to be a lot of teenage stuff.
Yeah, there's going to be a lot.
Yeah, I hope you're ready for some teenagers
because we're about to get some teenage stuff, I guess.
Actually, I guess everyone's on the brink of being. Yeah.
Yeah.
But we'll start mentally a child still.
So OK, all right.

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We'll get to that.
Let's see. But this time we have more voice actors.
We have Axel on Person is voiced by
Katsunosuke Hori, who is plays a bunch of old men and stuff.
So he is the old man of Paprika.
He's also an old man in Tokyo Ghoul.

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And he is Foo, the old ninja guy in full metal
out of his brotherhood. You remember that?
Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah.
One from fake China. Yeah.
I guess it's just when he was young.
Yeah, yeah.
Naturally, he would play old men as he got old.
Yeah. He played Charles Xavier in like an anime
thing of X-Men in 2011 that I never heard of.

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I.
And for me, he's also General Revol in Mobile Suit Gundam, the movie.
Yeah.
I need a Gundam word counter on our podcast.
Such a hater.
I didn't even talk about it before this point.
Yes.
Let's see.
Madame Dewberry is voiced by Ryoko Kinomia.

(18:38):
She is Queen Prometheus and Galaxy Express 999
because I guess they just lifted a bunch of the cast from that.
They were just like, hey, I'm doing this thing.
Do the director like direct that before or something?
Maybe that's something.
Is that older than this?
Yes. Oh, yeah.
I don't think it's like significantly older, but I think it's.

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It's a matter of like there's no Internet.
Just tell me who you've worked with before
and give me their phone number or something.
Something.
So this is a Galaxy Express came out in 1979.
I guess it's the same time because that's when this came out, too.
Right. Yeah.
You know, they're in the same studio or something.
And yeah, it's probably something like that.

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It's just like there have been a lot of them, which is which is pretty fun.
Hold on. Let me.
Yeah. No.
Yeah. Something like that.
So she is also the voice of Susie Q and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure,
a show I've never seen, but no things about, I guess.
She's also the narrator in a lot of different stuff.
Like she was a narrator in Jintama.

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She's a narrator in a lot of other shows I hadn't heard of.
And she's also on the Mephune, the mom of Speed Racer and Speed Racer.
So there we go.
OK. I've only seen the dub VHS.
But. Ah, yes.
Well, we're going to we're going to send
and do Barry off this this episode will be the last we see of her.

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All right. So wait, wait, an episode nine.
So I think I watched it, right?
Did you not watch episode nine?
No, I swear to God, I did.
Wait, OK.
I did, I think.
Did you not watch it?
I think I did.
A big thing happens.
Do you know what the big thing that happens in episode nine is?

(20:27):
OK.
The injury.
There's an injury.
That's episode eight.
Wait, I watched three episodes.
I swear to God, I think.
Oh, my God.
I feel like the fact that you don't know off the top of your head,
the thing that happened in episode nine means you didn't watch it.
Yeah, I know.
I can't look at your notes because now my other monitors turned off.

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OK. That's my main monitor.
Well, we'll get to it.
I guess we'll just pause and record after you watch it.
OK.
There's no way you would know this.
You would instantly notice.
I thought it. OK.
The sun rises the sun sets the sun sets the sun rises.
That's the name of the episode.
Nothing. What do we think the sun setting could mean?

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I'm assuming you're saying that madam do very dies.
No.
No. OK.
We're talking about the emperor.
Yes, the king dies.
The small pops.
Did he like die die?
Sarah, I thought we just see he gets smallpox.
I don't remember.
I watched the whole episode.
Did you watch the end of the episode?
Was it like a post credit thing or something?

(21:36):
No, he dies in the middle of the episode.
OK. All right.
Well, we'll talk about it when we get there, because it sounds like
maybe you watched it, but maybe you watched it out of like the corner of your eye
or while watching Love Island or something.
I don't know.
So that's not true.
Maybe maybe we'll just see.
I feel like I feel like you would know this.
Anyway, episode seven, which we definitely both watch, is called Who Wrote the Love Letter?

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We open on a montage of Prince Louis the 16th in his forage.
A voiceover tells us that Prince Louis neglects his wife and his husband
in name only as the OP plays.
When we get back, we cut to Marie trying to sneak out of the palace without anybody noticing her.
Unfortunately, Lady Oscar just appears out of nowhere from like behind a pillar,
which is a thing she's just going to do constantly and asks Marie if she's skipping her classes.

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And Marie is like, yeah, they're like super boring.
I don't want to go to them. Who cares?
And then she's like, hey, Oscar, teach me how to ride a horse.
But Oscar tells her that it's much too dangerous and that the prince would never allow it.
And Marie says that he probably wouldn't even care because he doesn't even like pay attention to her or anything.
I feel like I should wait a moment because I feel like you're going to comment on the next thing,
but you are currently gone. So I'm just going to fill time instead.

(22:42):
What is so dangerous about riding a horse?
I mean, I've ridden a horse.
I was trying to see.
I'm going to be constantly going to die.
You ever heard the story of Superman?
Superman?
Superman.
Like being sent from Krypton?
The actor.
No, the actor.
He like fell off his horse.
The one for the 70s.
Oh, no.

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I'll try to see if I've watched.
OK, don't worry about it.
We'll just get to it.
And we get there.
I'm very worried.
I don't think you should walk away from the podcast we're currently recording.
Oh, I guess I did.
I didn't finish the episode.
Oh, no. OK.
You didn't finish it. Oh, my God.
Don't leave.
I'll do it.
I'm coming back.
I'm coming back.
This, this, this, this would never happen if she was also making a summary.

(23:26):
You know, because when you make a summary, I watch it twice.
So it's.
I don't know what that I don't know.
You can have a candid reaction to what I tell you happens in the episode.
OK, OK.
That'll be fine.
It'll be like a new little like a new little.
OK, I got paid attention to what you're saying now.
Yeah.

(23:48):
OK, so getting back to the summary of episode seven.
Yeah, Oscar and Marie go to Prince Louis Forge.
He's surprised that she's there and Marie scolds him for ignoring her.
And he's like, yeah, but like I've been super busy.
And then he tries to make up to her by giving her an enormous heart shaped
lock and then immediately run away.
Told you he was going to make a lock.

(24:10):
It's like the size of a purse.
It must be extremely heavy.
I actually picked it up and checked it, though.
That's true.
She throws the lock down and calls after him asking if he even likes her.
So you think they have consummated their marriage?
Maybe not. I don't think so.
Maybe they just didn't do anything.

(24:34):
You just immediately went to bed.
Oh, man.
Let's see. We got to count mercy.
Scolding Marie for making a scene.
He's like, this will start rumors if it seems like you guys are having marital
problems. Also, the prince is like super sensitive.
So don't be like mean to him.
And Marie does not care about this advice.
We jump to Madden Dewberry and her associate, who I just referenced as

(24:55):
the associate because I don't know if we ever get her name.
This is not important.
Yeah, they're talking about Louis and Marie's, I guess,
troubled marriage.
They scheme to somehow use this to their advantage and her associate
comes up with a devious plan.
We move to Prince Louis and Oscar on another fox hunt.
I guess he just does this all the time.
Oscar is like nodding off.

(25:17):
They say it's his hobby. I'm like, we just saw the last one.
You can't you can't make me believe he enjoys doing that.
It's like one of his main things that he's avoiding his life by doing.
Oscar is like constantly nodding off in this episode.
It's really funny.
So she's like about to fall asleep.
And then Prince Louis decides to confide with her.

(25:37):
He tells her that Marie is just so pretty.
He doesn't know what to say.
But he's like, but I love her so dearly.
And Oscar listens and tells him that she won't tell anybody.
So like, don't worry about it, bud.
She feels bad for him as they go back to the hunt.
No advice for him.
Oscar's got nothing.
She's like, I'm bro. I'm about to take a nap.
I know he's real. My dude.
This fox is so boring.

(26:00):
Shooting foxes at point blank range is just not interest to me.
I can imagine not.
I will. I would think she'd have a bone to pick with the honor of it.
You know, like you didn't work for it really kind of.
Oh, I don't think she's impressed by this at all.
Now she's just.
Yeah, pretty phoning it.
And she's got a phoning it in this episode.

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Back at the palace, Prince Louis gives Marie six dead foxes from the hunt.
Her ladies and waiting all fawn over the gifts while Marie is just like whatever.
They recommend clothing items that can be made from the fur.
And Marie is like, I have like a hundred muffs and like
eighty nine capes and like Shaw's.
I don't I don't need any of it. I don't care.

(26:41):
I'm impressed.
But then one of the ladies and waiting mentions that like
there's a masquerade ball coming up and if she'd like wore all this fur,
she could look like a cossack and she's like a masquerade ball.
I will say first back, I feel like when I was out the other night,
I kept being like, why are these chicks wearing fake fur jackets?

(27:01):
Oh, really?
Coloring brown. Oh, yeah.
It's not like the white thing.
No, all sorts.
I was like, what is happening?
And that's weird.
Late at night, Oscar's mom fetches Oscar for Marie.
Marie decided as decided to speak off to the masquerade ball in town
and was waiting in her carriage and she's like, come with me, Oscar.

(27:22):
And Oscar's like, you can't go to this.
We didn't get permission.
But Marie says it's fine. It's a masquerade ball.
Nobody will know who it is. I'm wearing a mask.
That's like the whole point.
She has to see a mask.
Yeah. And Oscar says no way.
That's crazy. And then Marie just drives off.
She's like, whatever. It just goes.
Mm hmm. Which is funny.
Oscar needs to not be so uptight.

(27:44):
Yeah. Also, Maria is your superior.
She gets her way around and do what she wants.
Yeah. Although it turns out if she ever gets hurt in any way,
you could just get killed next episode.
Yeah. So I understand, baby.
We cut to the ball.
It's at an opera house.
Oscar is there looking pissed while Marie dances with some guys.

(28:04):
Oscar's not wearing a mask.
Oh, I forget last.
OK. Well, OK.
I was like, Oscar is just wearing her
full uniform guard.
So it's like people could put the pieces together.
Someone from the Royal Guards here.
That must mean a royal is here.
Like, well, people don't seem to recognize her.
I don't think people like get to see who the Royal Guard is

(28:24):
because they're always at Versailles.
I guess. That's true.
They probably just think she's some military officer.
Yeah.
Also, I forgot. In the last scene.
Yeah. In the last scene, there's a really funny scene
where Oscar is like, you can't go to this masquerade ball.
I hear all kinds of rabble is there like merchants and actors.
It's really funny.

(28:47):
Oh, I'm raising dancing with some guys in the distance.
She's by a very handsome man.
It is overwhelmed by how his beauty that she goes to the balcony
to get some air.
She she's like, holy shit.
That guy is not.
Yeah, he is.
So my sparkles is insane.
He comes up behind her and asks her to dance.

(29:08):
Oscar has nodded off again,
but looks up to see Marie and that guy talking on the balcony.
He removes her mask to see her face and is captured by her beauty.
And Oscar is like, well, that's bad.
So she walks up and holds the hilt of her sword in front of him.
She demands that he state his name and rank.
And he's like, you first.
And she tells him that she's Oscar captain of the Royal Guard.

(29:30):
And he's like, well, that's cool.
I'm Hans Axel von Fersen.
I'm a count from Sweden.
Oscar is like, all right.
Well, if you want to talk to Marie, you can make an appointment at the palace
because like she's the princess of France.
And Fersen is like, holy shit, she's the princess.
The France.
No wonder she's so hot.

(29:51):
He kisses her hand and Marie is super into it.
Oscar Scowles and is like, all right, we're done here.
And they they go to leave a voice while we're while they're leaving.
A voice tells us that one.
Marie is 18 now.
So we've done another time skip and two, this marks the moment of an historic affair.

(30:12):
As her carriage pulls off.
So I guess we'll see how this goes.
Well, it can only go well.
It can only go well.
We come back to Madame Dewberry.
She trash talks Marie to her ladies.
One of them comes into the room and says that Count Fersen is visiting again.
And like a lot of her like buds go to see him because everybody loves him.
But that leaves Dewberry and her associate to scheme.

(30:34):
We cut the first and kissing Marie's hand again.
He's hanging out with all the ladies today and is very charming.
Oscar and Andre watch this from behind a pillar where they just hang out behind pillars.
Oscar S Andre.
Marie seems different to him and Andre is like, I don't know.
Not really.
He kind of seems the same.
And Oscar is relieved because that means that Marie is not being super obvious about liking Fersen,
even though I feel like anybody.

(30:56):
And Andre has it picked up on it.
So no one else.
The men have not paid attention.
You know.
Um, Andre asks if that Oscar notice because of ladies intuition and then she just kind of winces at him.
And he corrects himself saying that Oscar is a man amongst men and Oscar tells him it's not a joke.
And if anybody else notices that they're having an affair, this could be like a huge problem.

(31:20):
She tells Andre to watch Marie carefully as they, so they can head off any rumors.
Later that night, Girardelle is patrolling the grounds.
He sees Madame Dewberry incognito leave the palace and he tells her and sees that she and her associate are meeting with a shady man with an eye with a monocle.
He's a monocle.
Love a monocle.
They hire this guy to forge a letter from Marie Antoinette.

(31:43):
It's the next day and they had the letter because they paid him like a gazillion dollars to get it done in one night.
The associate plants it in the hallway so that two ladies will just happen upon it.
She just leaves it in the middle of the floor in a hallway and it's like, ah, they'll run right into it.
I guess it's supposed to be outside the door.
Yeah.
The good person.
Yeah, Oscar's mom walks through a door that's right there and sees the letter.

(32:04):
She picks it up and sees it from Marie and then hides it from the others and the associate is like, oh no, how could this have happened?
Later that day, first since writing his horse, he sees Oscar who beckons him over.
She's like, hey, what the hell is this?
And she hands him his letter.
She's like, if anybody saw this, this could be a huge scandal.
And he's like, I don't, what is this?

(32:26):
And she tells him it's from, it's Marie's reply to him and he's like reply.
What are you talking about?
He reads the letter and tells Oscar, he has no idea what this is.
And Oscar is like, how dare you deny Marie's feelings?
Not only are you not keeping it secret, you're also being a dick.
You wanted to.
She draws her sword.
Yeah, this is so funny.

(32:48):
She's like, first you're like, get a get her in trouble and now you're like besmirching her honor.
How dare you?
First it's like, whoa, hey, I've never written her a love letter.
I don't know what this is.
And they just like stare each other down for a long time.
While staring each other down, Andre and Girardelle rush to them and tell Oscar that it's a forgery and that Girardelle knows who made it.
We cut to the forger's house.
They find him inside, but he's dead.

(33:10):
He's been stabbed with a big dagger.
I know.
We saw dead guy.
We see a little, you know, obviously a body in a bed with little like tent, tent being.
Yeah, under this covers.
This could go one or two ways.

(33:31):
They find a draft of the letter in the house so they can confirm that it's a forgery, but with no witnesses, they can't pin it on anybody.
Suddenly a mall top cocktail flies through the window, lighting the building on fire.
The doors are also all barricaded so they can't like escape through the regular doors and they have to jump out of a three story window into the canal.
Girardelle is a witness.

(33:53):
Is he not like reputable enough to be the witness?
I think it's like a.
He couldn't tell who it was.
He couldn't tell.
It would just be him saying that it was Dewberry and Dewberry would say no, it's not.
And that's the end of the trial.
Let's see, we cut to Dewberry's associate dying from poisonous Dewberry watches because that's her.

(34:15):
She poisoned another one.
It's very brief, just like there's that done though.
Yeah, it's because it's like them saying that like, oh, without any witnesses, we have no case.
And then we cut to the associate dying, getting rid of all the witnesses possible.
Later, Dewberry runs into Oscar Andre and Girardelle.
She's like, Hey, Oscar and Oscar tells her about yesterday.

(34:39):
She's like, there was a fire in a building and Dewberry is like, well, that's scary.
But also what's that got to do with me?
And then Oscar shows her the fake letter.
She's like, we found this fake letter in that place.
And again, Dewberry is like, that's crazy.
What does that have to do with me?
And Oscar says it has nothing to do with you and it better not have anything to do with you in the future.
She starts to walk past her, but stops and says that she will protect Marie from any conspiracies with her life as Dewberry glances back at her.

(35:01):
We end on a scene of Marie and first and platonically enjoying some heart music in the garden while Oscar stands at the distance.
No, that was...
Rose petals blowing in the wind.
Sexual tension could be cut in half.
It's crazy.
No, no, no, they're sitting next to each other.
It's fine. Everyone's keeping their hands to themselves.
There's plenty of room for Jesus.
It's okay.

(35:22):
Oscar thinks that Marie's emotions are too pure and that many people will try to use that against her.
And she prays that nothing will happen as we cut to credits.
I feel like men, at least in this show, they're so dumb and don't pay attention to anything that women are doing.
Women could just be so like, you know, they could do whatever they want.
It's just other women, they have to worry about ratting them out.

(35:44):
This is a problem.
Yeah.
Ugh.
Just work together.
That's because all the guys are hanging out with each other and like cheating on their wives or whatever.
You know what I mean? They're busy.
Yeah.
But like, I'm sure the wife knows that they're cheating on them, but the dude has no clue probably.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The buffoon is being depicted in this series.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(36:05):
I mean, I guess we haven't really talked about like the amount of sexism present in the palace.
But I mean, you know, most of the time you get a wife because they're pretty.
They're like a thing for you to look at.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't even have to talk to them to love them.
She's so beautiful.
I'm freaking Prince Louis being like, oh, I love my life so much. I don't know. I can't interact with her.

(36:29):
It's like, I don't think you, I don't think you know what that word means, man.
I think you're just saying that.
Yep.
Mercy has to be like, no, no, no, he's just a sensitive boy.
He's being totally normal.
Oh, goodness.
How do we like fursan?
This is our first full fursan episode.
He's here.
Well, okay.
Because our introduction to him is him like going through Harris like outskirts and seeing how shitty it is and calling it out.

(36:57):
And so it's like, at first it's like, okay, he knows what's up.
He's going to be like a good guy.
But now I'm like, now it's just like, you know, flirting with a married woman.
I don't know how to feel about him.
I mean, not that like, yeah.
Well, because it's not like we're seeing it be like, oh, you know, Mary Antoinette being like, man, this sucks being ignored by the person who's supposed to love me, blah, blah, blah.

(37:24):
Then him being like, God, this poor girl is so wonderful.
She deserves to be blah, blah, blah.
So I don't know what his, I'm just, he's 18, right?
He's just a dumb boy.
Yeah, I think he's just hanging out.
Yeah.
What do you think of him?
Axl.
That's a funny name.
I think it's very funny that everybody thinks he's so charming when he's just like being a guy.

(37:46):
He's just like, making little jokes.
He's just slight intelligence makes him a league above the rest of his feelings.
Yeah.
Like he's like, he's hot and he just hangs out with them.
And that's like the thing that sets him above everybody else.
Cause yeah, like you're right.
I mean, all the guys just ignore their wives and stuff.
Yes.
I feel like it'd be very easy to win a woman's affections because it's just a side up to be, this is marriage.

(38:10):
Where you don't talk to each other.
So it'd be very easy to just like weasel your way in there with the slightest attention.
It's odd because it seems like up to this point, everything's been like gender segregated, right?
Cause it's like, well, this is the part where all the women hang out and this is the part where all the men go somewhere.
Right.
But really they could just hang out with each other.
Yeah.

(38:31):
Since no one's making a flash about it.
Yeah.
Like there's really no problem with it.
It's just, you know, men don't give a shit about what the women are doing because as long as they're not like,
having sex with them or whatever, they don't really care.
Yeah.
I guess so.
Rital.
Prince Louis is not, is not going to make it.
Nah.
Give us her a locket in the shape of a heart.
He's enormous and he's like, do you like this?

(38:53):
And she's like, no, I don't like this.
Oh, he just runs away.
So like, ah, oh, and he like twiddles his thumbs literally where he like, if he talks about it, he's just pushing his little thumbs together, talking and.
Meekest can be no confidence in himself.
And how are the people supposed to have confidence that he can run the country?

(39:16):
Well, let me tell you, it doesn't go great for him.
Good.
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
We want to go to the next one.
Yeah.
All the sparkles in this one.
Episode eight is called the Oscar of my heart, which is incredible name for an episode.
We open on Oscar slapping Andre.

(39:39):
He demands to know what he did wrong and Oscar tells him that she never wants to see his face again and then she rides off as he calls after her.
And then suddenly Andre wakes up because this was a nightmare.
It turns out he fell asleep in the stables as the OP plays after the opening with the Andre talked to a horse about how he's anxious that one day Oscar won't need him and she will cast him aside.

(40:01):
All of a sudden, Oscar comes in as like, Andre, did you fall asleep in the stables?
Don't blame me if you get sick.
And then she takes her horse out in leaves and Andre wonders if she'll still need him in the future.
We got to Marine first and hanging out in the garden.
All the ladies love him.
He like says little jokes and stuff.
It's great.
He picks a rose for her.
They stare at each other's eyes for a little too long.

(40:24):
Scandal.
Andre and Oscar look on as Oscar hopes that nothing bad will happen from this because, you know, not being subtle at all.
Andre comments that Oscar is only thinking about Marie.
It's like she's her nanny or something and Oscar's like, what?
Why are you acting weird?
And he's like, it's nothing.
Don't worry about it.
And Oscar tells him that men shouldn't sigh like that.
And Andre wonders if Oscar only thinks about Marie because he's really going through it this episode.

(40:50):
Don't you hate it when like the girl you like who is dedicated to guarding another chick just watches her like person she's guarding flirt with some dude for like six hours a day?
I mean, I try to think I get I just seem like Oscar and it always has seemed like Andre pokes fun at Oscar and then Oscar just being dead serious like dismissing the jokes has been their entire report up to this point.

(41:19):
Flash punching each other, I guess.
I'm like, I don't know that like the time not spent doing that.
It just doesn't seem like they had the most familiar relationship.
I mean, I think they have the most familiar relationship out of everybody in the show.
I get. Well, that's a very low bar.

(41:41):
Like, I think the problem.
Well, I guess we'll get into this move more than episode goes on.
But like Andre wants to flirt with Oscar, but doesn't know how because he needs to treat her like a man.
And also she's his superior.
Yeah, which makes everything really awkward, which is why he knows that's his intention.
Do you do it?
He acknowledges the.

(42:02):
No, I think he's still in like at the end of this.
I mean, we'll see what it says.
But yeah, so I think it's it's a little he's trying to create familiarity.
And that's like the way he feels like he can do it, even though not necessarily the most effective.
Yes. Yeah.
Marie sees Madame Dewberry riding a horse and gets jealous later that night.
She demands that she be able to ride a horse.
Her mentor, Countess Noyes, is like, that's super dangerous.

(42:27):
We could never allow that.
We cut to the countess talking to Prince Louis in his forage.
She tells him that he needs to put his foot down about Marie riding a horse.
She needs to not ride a horse.
And Prince Louis is like, I don't know.
Seems fine if she wants to ride a horse.
I mean, I ride a horse, whatever.
And she's like, oh, yeah, don't worry.
Like Oscar and Andre will be there.
It's cool.
I think it's very interesting that everybody knows Andre.

(42:49):
They're like, oh, yeah, it's Andre.
Yes. Well, what? OK.
Well, he's like the stable hand or whatever.
But I'm assuming maybe it's a more like head of horses for the Royal Guard,
maybe or something.
Yeah, it's kind of weird because he's like both Oscars like attendant.
Yeah.

(43:10):
So does all the he's like hanging out in the stable the time. So I don't know.
And also, yes, it can be dangerous to ride a horse.
Like I was saying earlier, the actor for Superman for the 70s, like had an incident
and he was like paralyzed for the rest of his life.
Well, God, if I was that horse and I had to hear her twinkling on me,

(43:35):
I would go into a rampage as well.
Like that laugh. But I don't know.
They're just like powerful and OK, flighty animals sometimes.
But what I'm saying is that you can learn how to ride a horse in a way
that isn't that dangerous. They're going to make a huge mistake right here.

(43:56):
And I can tell you what the mistake is because it's obvious.
But like there are ways to teach them when to ride a horse that are not particularly dangerous.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like right. It's like driving a car, right?
Like I can teach you how to drive a car in a parking lot. It's not dangerous.
Driving out on the road every day can be dangerous over a long period of time.
Yeah.

(44:17):
Well, so she's just a horse one time. I mean, it's not a big deal.
OK, well, it's also like why is Madame du Berry riding?
I was surprised this wasn't some scheme to be like, let me show what I'm allowed to do that.
Marie Antoinette is the Duke.
Duke, I'll be like, let me interfere. And then we fail again.
I bet do Barry knows that Marie wants to ride a horse.

(44:39):
She's like, we're just going riding every day.
We're just circling the fucking lot every day.
So that's what she comes to us and be sensed.
Aha. Oh, man.
OK, that's for sure. What's happening? Good Lord.
Oh, it's like that. Yeah.
It's like imagine you like your rival doesn't know how to drive.
It's like we're circling their house going around the block every day to see

(45:02):
so we can see me drive and having a great time. Yeah.
So we're going to insert that as the motivation there.
So later, it turns out, Marie has gotten permission from Prince Louis to ride a horse.
Marie has brought a white horse, a gift from the prince.
She's amazed and the crab gossips about whether or not Marie will really be able to ride.

(45:24):
Apparently Prince Louis got her a wild horse to match her wild spirit.
This is the problem. Did they say that?
Yes. Oh, I didn't see that part.
Because they're like a white horse.
This is like a wild horse.
And Prince Louis was like a little match her spirit.
I'm like, this is the problem.
If she rode it like Oscars horse, Oscars horse wouldn't freak out.
You know what I mean? When I learned to ride a horse,

(45:46):
I rode a horse that like, you know, had new riders every day.
So it's just like whatever you need to ride a chill horse.
Don't ride a new horse. Yeah, that's dumb.
Well, he actually selected this horse.
I mean, it makes sense to why a bad decision was made.
But also it's like, I can't believe that he could be bothered to go and pick the horse.
I mean, it makes sense that he wouldn't know anything because he just got

(46:08):
blocked off his horse like two episodes ago.
Well, that's because a fox jumped at it. But yeah, I think this is like this really seems like
someone was like, he's like, bring my wife a new, a brand new, unbroken,
like a brand new horse. And someone's like, well, we have this one.
It's very pretty, but it's like kind of new. It's kind of wild.
I mean, he's like perfect. It matches her spirit.

(46:30):
I think that's about the level of thinking here.
She should have just rode his horse. She just rode Oscars horse.
She just rode Oscars horse. It looks the same.
I'm sure they have like hundreds of horses that are just get rode all the time
and are really chill that Andre got abroad. But because it's not like a man,
like a miss, like, you know, a beautiful horse for her to ride.
It's sparkling like crazy, like a diamond.

(46:54):
Because like she gets on this thing.
And like Andre is like notably kind of worried about it.
Yes. Yes.
Trying to talk to her. Listen to me.
You idiot. Like you're on the horse now. Listen.
Just very dismissive.
Yeah. Marie gets on the horse, but is not good at following directions.

(47:17):
Andre and Oscar try to give her like directions on what to do,
like to hold the reins and not kick the horse.
But she doesn't really like get it that much.
Suddenly the horse bucks and then just takes off and drags Andre,
who's holding onto the reins, like on the dirt as it goes.
Oscar mounts in pursuit.

(47:38):
Eventually the reins snap and Andre is left in the dust as it like pulled him
a significant distance. Oscar is like, dude, you got to let go.
And he's like, I can't let go. But that gets taken care of.
Marie's horse is still galloping at full speed with Marie like hanging on to it.
Oscar pursues, but can't quite catch up because that horse is quick.
It turns out that the route they're on is just like a straight line into the canal.

(48:01):
So they need to like get her off the horse.
So they'll both fall into the canal.
I have a point to make about this in a second.
Oscar is able to catch up and then she dramatically dives off of her horse
to catch Marie and like dive into the forest right next to them
before they're thrown off and both horses jump into the canal.
They tumble to the ground and Oscar shields her.

(48:22):
This is where we're like a water landing with a smoother.
I feel like landing in the water wouldn't have been that bad.
No, it wasn't that deep.
The horse can immediately have to calm itself down to swim.
It would be fine unless she can't swim, which seems likely.
But also Oscar would have been there to jump in. Yeah, because like both horses jump in,
like it's no big deal. So clearly they're not that scared of it.

(48:45):
Yeah, I don't know.
It seems like just landing in the water wouldn't have been that big of a deal.
Nope. It certainly seems less dangerous than like diving into the onto the ground
at full horse speed, which is probably like, I don't know how fast your horses go.
30 miles an hour or something. Yeah, I was sure. Yeah.
How fast is a horse?

(49:07):
I mean, it depends for how long they were going.
Probably not that fast.
Horses can run at an average speed of 25 to 30 miles per hour with the fastest
breed of the quarter horse recorded speeds up to 57.9 miles per hour.
So it's probably like 30.
I feel like you jump out of a car at 30 miles per hour.
That's like probably more dangerous than falling into water.

(49:28):
Yeah, especially if the horse is going to break the water in front of you.
Yes. Yeah.
But I don't know. Maybe that would have been like into death.
Her dress would have been ruined.
Yeah, it would have been a heavy ass dress.
Let's see. So they they get up from the ground. Marie's passed out,
but otherwise seems OK. Oscar has been stabbed with a branch in the arm,

(49:51):
which she pulls out right there, which like you shouldn't do that.
The first time I see her bleeding out.
Blood, it feels like, even though there's been many of stabbings
and we haven't seen that much like blood we're seeing now.
If you've been stabbed with an object and you are not in a position
to stop the bleeding immediately in there for a little bit.
Well, I was saying medical knowledge.

(50:12):
At the time, did that advice that slash was Oscar now?
That's really very well.
It's like, it'll grow this thing in me.
The immediate reaction would be like get the gross,
the like things scabbing me out of me.
I would assume.
But you would think someone who like was trained in combat
would know better practices for dealing with injury.

(50:34):
Yeah. But it's like if you get shot with an arrow,
you want to leave the arrow in until you can take it out
in a way that you won't bleed out.
Or she had to carry Marie Antoinette,
Swib and Stadmore.
That's more dramatic to pull it out. Yeah.
Yeah. You got to be dramatic. Yes. Yeah.
Oscar carries Marie back to the palace.

(50:57):
We got to Marie lying in bed. She's still passed out.
Oscar curses herself. Also, she's just standing there in the room
and hasn't been treating and is still bleeding everywhere.
But nobody notices.
We got to King Louis.
He demands to know the one responsible for Marie's injury
and orders him to be arrested and brought to him for judgment.
Geredale delivers the news to Oscar that Andre has been arrested

(51:18):
and she is enraged. She's like, how could this happen?
We got to Andre standing before the king in the court.
King Louis accuses Andre of injuring the princess.
He says he's responsible even if it was an accident.
Just then, Oscar bursts through the doors.
King Louis orders his guard to throw Andre into the dungeon.
But when Oscar suddenly appears, she tells the king to wait.

(51:39):
She calls out all of the witnesses that were there.
You know, Prince Louis, who's in the room and hasn't said anything.
Countess, Noelle's, Count Mercy and Furson, all of them,
they were all there. They saw what happened.
It wasn't Andre's fault. She draws her sword and says
that she formally requests for a trial.
And as Andre's massacre, his crimes are also hers.
So if you take his life, you'll have to take hers first.

(52:02):
Everybody is impressed at this display.
Furson steps out and comes to Oscar's aid immediately.
He vouches for Andre and Oscar is amazed that he'd stick his neck out for them,
considering he has no position on the court.
Yeah.
Suddenly, Marie appears. She's better now.
And she begs the king not to punish anybody because it was her fault.
She tells Andre, Oscar and Furson that it'll be fine.

(52:24):
It's nobody's fault. You guys should just leave.
And King Louis says that if it's what Marie wants, he'll let it go.
And then he tells Andre to remember that he is a good master.
Oscar thinks about how she's indebted to Furson now for like helping them out.
And then suddenly she like is about to stand up,
but then passes out because she's been bleeding everywhere
because she never got her wound treated and everyone's like, oh shit,
Oscar passed out.

(52:47):
We cut to Oscar lying in a sick bed.
Granny is there and she prays for Oscar's recovery.
Andre begs the doctor to save her and he says he'll do his best.
And Andre is like, dear God, this is all my fault.
And Furson comforts him. He's like, listen, man,
you couldn't have known this was going to happen.
The doctor requests that Granny take off Oscar's shirt.
And she tells Andre to take Furson outside and Furson's like, why?

(53:09):
Like, we're all men here. Who cares?
And Granny's like, how dare you say that about our lady?
Outside Furson is like, wait a minute.
Hold on. Wait. Oscar's a woman. And Andre tells him that Oscar was raised as a man
and lives as a man and will continue to be a man.
And he runs off to the stable in grief over what has happened.
Furson thinks to himself, he's like, hold on, if Oscar's a woman,

(53:32):
that's why she was so thin and like nimble.
I always thought that was weird, but I never like, man, that's weird.
Also, but then he also thinks.
How long has he been seeing Marie Antoinette?
Surely this will come out by some point.
Oscar, he's like, Oscar really is a man among men, though.
I mean, Andre is right about that.

(53:53):
Jumping into the jumping into the fray and stuff like that.
It's so funny.
The fact that Furson is like held up as like this guy who's very observant,
understands that, like, the wings and then he's just like,
what do you mean, Oscar is a woman?
Yeah. Oh, man. So funny.
So how like convincing the the act is on Oscar's behalf.

(54:17):
I'm guessing that Furson does not pay that much attention to Oscar.
I think he's maybe looking at someone else.
Blinders. Yeah. Yeah. That's gotta be it.
But now that he knows, it was going to be a love triangle.
Oh, no, probably not.
Anything could happen.
Oscar is dashing and a lot less annoying than Marie Antoinette.

(54:38):
But I guess that's like the annoying.
This is what they've been taught.
They like in a woman.
So it feels like Oscar is weird and not.
She is also the future queen of France.
I don't think we should ignore that part.
Yeah, pretty important.
Later that day, General Jarjez goes to see Oscar.
He tells the doctor that she lost or the doctor tells him that she lost a lot of blood

(55:00):
and it's pretty banged up.
But like as long as she wakes back up, she should be fine.
General Jarjez tells Oscar that he's proud of her for being so heroic.
Later that night, Andre and Granny are both waiting at her bed.
Andre thinks about how he's ashamed for ever doubting her
and thinks back about his nightmare earlier and realizes that Oscar would never abandon him.
We get some flashbacks of Oscar and Andre playing as kids with swords and riding horses

(55:22):
and like just kind of hanging out.
And it's like done in this cool way.
I really like these flashback sequences.
The flashback ends and Oscar wakes up.
Andre and Granny are really relieved and Oscar tells Andre that those flashbacks were her dreams.
She's like, I dream that stuff happen.
Remember that?
It's the next morning and first in the general Andre and Granny are all in Oscar's room.

(55:44):
First in tells Oscar that she has good luck, that she recovered so well.
And Oscar is like, yeah, it worked out.
And then she turns to Andre and she jokes that he's probably the only person to have ever injured a royal
and still have his head and everybody has a big laugh about it.
Andre thinks about how someday he'll give his life for Oscar as she just did for him as we cut the credits.
What tears are swimming like crazy in his eyes about spelling.

(56:09):
It's cold.
He's so good.
Yeah.
He can't fall in love with his superior and also somebody who's supposed to be a man.
Yeah, that's disrespecting Oscar that you know by thinking of her that way.
She'd be pissed if he ever confessed or something.
Would she? Do you think she would?

(56:31):
Yeah, I think she would.
Stop looking at me with your lecherous eyes.
I'm a man.
Maybe.
But it's Andre.
And then I'm sure she hates.
We hate Merchant.
Well, alone, what does she think about?
If she sees herself as a man and he's a man and he thinks of her, who's a man romantically?

(56:53):
I'm sure that will go well in her antiquated eyes either.
Well, I don't know.
This is the thing.
We get very little of Oscars interiority, right?
No.
So I think this, I mean, I really feel for Andre here because if you're in this position, this is like the worst possible position to be in, right?
Because it's like the Oscars going to the mat for you, right?

(57:14):
She's like, oh, you'd have to kill me before you get to Andre and you're like, shit.
But also this is your boss and also you're not supposed to look at them like that, even if they weren't your boss.
And also they're like really pretty and like, aren't they so great?
Don't we just love them?
It's weird that you're obsessed with Marie Antoinette, but whatever, I guess, I guess it's your job.

(57:35):
I don't know.
Also this person guy is here.
What's his deal?
I feel for Andre.
Rough, rough.
This is the most distant protagonist I've ever had.
It's quite the interesting dynamic we have with Oscar as an audience.
I have no idea how this is going to go.

(57:56):
Yeah.
Well, so far everything Oscar, she's like performing all the time, right?
Yeah.
She's being like the noble, heroic type, right?
Which everybody loves, but it's like, you can't be like that all the time.
Every time we've seen her opinion about something, it's about how like she doesn't like how the other are like debauchers and yeah, dishonorable and stuff like that, which is like.

(58:22):
Gonna be really put to the test next episode.
Yeah.
I can't wait to find out.
You can maintain that for a long time.
Yeah.
Some of us will find out.
And so I'm really wondering where Oscar is.
Yeah, if we're going to have an episode where it's like a conflict with internal conflict and if we actually get to hear what that conflict is or not.

(58:47):
Yeah.
Well, it's just like in the end, and then in episode seven, she's constantly falling asleep because she's super bored because her job is incredibly boring.
You don't think you're reading into the falling asleep thing?
Like that's what's happening.
I mean, I think I'm.
No, I think it's boring.
I think she's bored.
I think it's the fact that she just watches Maria into it all the time and doesn't really have much else to do.

(59:12):
Like that can't be fulfilling in particular.
Like she doesn't have anything going on in her life.
I think is what's more.
Don't worry girl.
It's about to get crazy in a couple like another decade or something.
She's about to be real busy.
Yes.
But I think up to this point, it's like you're just hanging out here with this job.
You're having to hang out with these Royals.
You don't really like them that much.
I mean, she likes Marie and she likes person because he, you know, stuck his neck out for her.

(59:35):
But doesn't like the court.
No.
It doesn't like getting involved in any of their stuff.
She wants to kind of stay out of it and just like keep her head down a little bit.
Uh-huh.
So it's it's been interesting.
I mean, I get to a point where she can't do that anymore.
Cause right at the very beginning of the show, it's like, oh, I don't want to be in charge of the military, the Royal.

(59:58):
Guard.
What do you think Oscar wanted to do?
I don't think she didn't want to be in charge of the Royal Guard.
I don't think she wanted to guard Marie Antoinette.
Yeah, that's true.
Cause like her dad's a general and that means that he is in like the army and doing army stuff and like war stuff.
She is the head of the Royal Guard.

(01:00:19):
I mean, she spends most of her time basically doing nothing.
Baby sitting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which like is a high honorable position, right?
Like that gives you a lot of sway and things like that.
But Oscar doesn't really have any interest in career climbing in that way.
I would think it would have been for someone like older who'd already done all the exciting stuff.
Like, and they were now going to settle down by doing that.
Cause it's an honor to them.

(01:00:40):
And then it's like, oh, this, you know, well decorated person now gets to protect this important, you know, princess.
Okay.
Why don't you tell me about what happened?
I know we talk about the sun sets and sun rises as far as like who are we betting on kind of thing.
But I am going to be super paying attention to every word.

(01:01:03):
So let's hear it.
Episode nine is called the sun sets, the sun rises.
I'm going to be paying attention to every word as you, as you walk away.
I am listening.
We open on Madame Dewberry receiving a enormous necklace from the King.
All of her ladies fawn over it and she tells one of her crew that she talked to the King and got her husband promoted.

(01:01:27):
Like the lady that she's talking to, to commander of the guards.
They're like having like a little laugh about it and being celebratory when suddenly General Jarjay's person, he tells them all that the King has collapsed as the OP plays.
A voiceover tells us when we return that it's April 27th, 1774.
King Louis has collapsed suddenly while hunting.

(01:01:49):
He was examined by a huge number of doctors, but they haven't quite figured out what's going on.
We see King Louis and he's in a bad way. He's just lying in bed looking real rough.
Dewberry comes in and tells him that he has to hang in there because they're, you know, but things are looking bad.
Dewberry wonders what'll happen to her if the King dies because she has a lot of things she still wants to do.

(01:02:10):
He can't die now. That's selfish bastard.
Later that evening, Oscar is looking out the window towards Versailles.
Andre comes in and comforts her that the King will make a recovery. He'll be fine, but Oscar does not seem that convinced.
We got to a meeting of a bunch of doctors. They have no idea what's wrong with King Louis.
One of their attendants comes to like, blood the candles right next to him and looks at Louis and sees that he's developed spots.

(01:02:32):
The doctors recognize this as smallpox, a very deadly illness.
It's the next morning. Prince Louis and Marie are told that the King has smallpox and they need to shelter as far away as possible from the King to prevent it from spreading.
At this point, I need to make a correction about the family tree because King Louis, the 15th, is Prince Louis's grandfather.

(01:02:57):
So he had a kid. He had two sons, one of them dad during childhood and the other died at age 36 to tuberculosis.
The aunts are his daughters from before. So that's what's going on.
His son's son, his grandson, is King Louis there, or will be King Louis the 16th.

(01:03:18):
That's what's going on there. That's why Prince Louis is only 18. The King is like 65.
We got to Oscar overhearing the nobles at court gossiping about what they should do if the King dies.
We want to get a good graces with the Prince, but if you do that now, it'll be really awkward because clearly we're just doing that because the King's dying.

(01:03:40):
They're all nervous about the uncertainty of his recovery and some of them even say that it would be easier if he would just hurry up and die already.
Oscar is incensed that they don't have loyalty to the King and that they'd be playing politics at a time like this.
She like glares at all of them and they're all like, oh, Oscar's mad.
We got to Prince Louis and Marie. Marie goes to comfort Louis, who does not seem to be handling things well.

(01:04:01):
We got to Oscar drilling some soldiers.
Girardelle's like, why is this happening? I'm supposed to be drilling the soldiers. Why is she doing this? Andre tells him that Oscar is just anxious and can't sit still and feels like she needs to do something.
So just let her do this. Suddenly an attendant gets Oscar's attention.
The attendant tells her that Madame Dewberry wants to speak with her and Oscar decides to go.

(01:04:24):
Oh, that's going to happen.
In Dewberry's apartment, she's getting drunk on wine.
Oscar shows up and Dewberry tells her that she wants Oscar to help her get into Marie's good graces before it's too late.
Oscar just kind of looks at her and says that she can't help her because it's too late.
Dewberry.
Yeah.
There's nothing we can do.
Dewberry is like, come on, there has to be something we can do.
Like you got to be able to have something that could help me.

(01:04:46):
But Oscar refuses.
Dewberry pulls a knife and points it at Oscar and tells her that she has to help her.
But Oscar is not impressed and steps into the tip of the blade so that it cuts her cheek.
This freaks Dewberry out and she drops the knife and Oscar leaves without saying anything.
Real desperation hours.
Not that pretty face.
Yeah.

(01:05:07):
She's like, you know, I might be able to like kill you, but I could like scratch you up and that'll look bad.
And Oscar's like, I literally do not care about this at all.
Yeah.
Later, we see an attendant go see Duke early on at his, at his residence to request an audience.
The Duke refuses and thinks to himself that a mistress of a dead king has no use anymore.
Oh, oh, oh.
Outside his, his residence, Dewberry bangs on the doors to no avail.

(01:05:32):
She decides that it's not over and rides back to Versailles.
Everybody's waiting around for the king to die.
Oscar sees Dewberry beg the doctors to do something, but after 10 days, they have decided that there's nothing they can do and they all just give up.
Dewberry goes to the bedside of the dying king.
She tells him that he can't die and he is like the sun to her that shines down and allows her to bloom.

(01:05:53):
Later that night, he says that it's going to be over soon.
He's going to die and he wants to see a bishop for his last rites.
The bishop shows up and says that if King Louis truly wants to be forgiven and led into heaven, then he needs to banish his mistress from the palace, which is in front to God.
We see men drag Dewberry off as she begs them to stay.
Oh snap.
We cut to Marie and Prince Louis.

(01:06:15):
Louis freaked out over having to become king at just 19 because he's not ready for that at all.
Outside the king's room, all the nobles are annoyed that it's taking so long for him to die.
They're like, come on, man, he did his last rites like so long ago and he's still alive.
Eventually the signal is given that he has died and they all eagerly rushed to break the news to Louis and Marie.
Oscar and Giradelle are standing outside of Louis and Marie's room and they see a bunch of nobles rushing at them and they're all confused.

(01:06:43):
The nobles burst into the room and Madame Noël's smiles tells Marie and Louis that the king is dead while smiling.
They're horrified.
But then Noël takes Marie's hand, bows down and then congratulates her on becoming the Queen of France.
And Marie is still shocked that the king is dead.
She's like, my granddad just died.
What are you saying?
The nobility all cheer for the new king and queen while Louis and Marie are like cowering on the floor together.

(01:07:11):
In the hallway.
Yeah, this is an incredible sequence.
I love this sequence.
In the hallway, Oscar is in disbelief that the nobility would act this way.
They all cheer for the new king and queen and none of them have even paid respects to the one that just died like literally right now.
Giradelle laughs.
He comments that now that there's a new king, these people only care about kissing up to them.

(01:07:35):
He says this, this is a quote.
The sun sets, the sun rises, those who prosper will one day perish without a new son to bask in.
People cannot live.
Oscar looks on stoically and decides to leave.
She exits the palace and overhears a commotion.
Some guards are dragging Dewberry into a carriage, but she's resistant.
One of them strikes her with a whip and tells her that she's just a commoner now.

(01:07:57):
Oscar pulls at her sword and slashes the man in the back, which also cuts his whip.
He's fine though.
So it seems like mostly just smashed his uniform.
She tells him that she's going to handle this and they can just leave.
Oscar insists on escorting Dewberry out of Paris on the pretense that there have been some threats of violence against her so that she's going to escort them.
They leave together.
So Dewberry is in a carriage and Oscar is on her horse kind of right next door.

(01:08:22):
After a while Dewberry comments that they're clear of Versailles and that nothing has happened and she's like, you just made that up.
Like that threat up Oscar, you just didn't want to stay there at the palace.
Oscar does not respond.
Dewberry continues saying that Oscar probably doesn't know how hard it is to live in the streets.
She's like, you probably never had to like hustle for bread or anything.
Dewberry says that she had to do many things to survive and had never once had the luxury of thinking about the morality of any of it.

(01:08:47):
Eventually she like made her way into becoming a noble and went up from, you know, just wanting to eat some bread and make ends meet to wanting riches.
Kind of weird in retrospect how that all worked out, huh?
But she says that at the end of the day she has no regrets about the life she lived.
She made the best life that she could for herself and I guess that's all there is to it.
After a certain point Dewberry stops her carriage.

(01:09:09):
She tells Oscar that this is far enough and Oscar can go back.
She thanks Oscar for listening to her and says that she hasn't been this candid since she lost her mother at the age of five.
She says that she may be old now, but there's still time for her.
She'll bloom once again and declares that she's going to make a new start as she rides off into the sunset.
A voiceover tells us that that's the last we're going to see of Dewberry who made her way up to the King and gave Marie Antoinette so much trouble.

(01:09:35):
Eventually it says that she'll be killed in 1793 and by guillotine in the Revolution.
So we know what her fate is going to be.
We get one final scene of Oscar in a funeral procession for the King.
There were only 76 troops guarding the coffin and nobody else was in the procession.
Oscar thought to herself about the unyielding flow of human history and weeks as we cut to credits.

(01:10:00):
Oh, Oscar cries. What? Oscar cries.
Yeah, you're cutting out. So I can't really hear you.
Oscar cries. Yeah.
Oh snap. Okay. Now I'm excited to see and watch it now. It sounds exciting.
I can't believe I missed it. This is like an incredible sequence.

(01:10:24):
The sequence of the King dying. All the nobles like eagerly rushing to tell Louis and Marie that the King is dead and then congratulate them on becoming the new King and Queen after their granddad just died is incredible.
Dang. Okay. Okay. Well, now what do we.
There's probably going to be another time skip. Yeah. Where it's God will be things going to happen.

(01:10:50):
We're going to get extra. I get. Okay.
I guess that's why our.
Zhen, John, whatever her name is brought on.
She's behind the scenes, getting all trained up to be fancy and then she'll replace her as antagonist. Maybe.
Yeah, it seems like maybe that's going to happen.
So I'm guessing will happen. Somebody's got to give her a hard time, even if she's queen now.

(01:11:15):
We think that's still going to be the case or she can try to get way harder now that she's queen. Yeah.
This is an incredible episode.
I'm excited to watch it now.
Like Oscar's horrified that all the nobles are acting this way and Girardelle just laughing and being like just how it is like these people don't give a shit about the King as a person as like a human being.

(01:11:37):
He's just a he's the son of them. They just need him to grow their plants.
And as soon as he dies, they just need a new one. They don't care.
None of these people care about each other.
Yeah.
Freaking bummer.
Okay. So do we think Oscar handle it?
Yeah, it's going to have like a change of attitude or like one different things or be worried that the same thing.

(01:11:59):
Okay. Do I just had a list right there?
Now I go. Do I have a list?
No, you have a list.
Okay. The Oscar is going to be worried the same phase going to be followed Marie into net. She cares about her.
So she's going to try to make her more likeable to like more people or I'll be interested.
I don't know. I don't think she has a plan here. I think this is just more of a shock to her because like clearly Oscar likes people.

(01:12:26):
You know what I mean? Like she she appreciates people like as people. She like gives everybody respect.
She doesn't just use anybody. She hates it when other people do that, right?
Which is why like she's like willing to go to the mat for us or for Andre last episode.
In this episode, she like goes and helps out do Barry who is like tried multiple times to get her killed because she just kind of feels bad for her.

(01:12:47):
Like Oscar clearly likes people and that like runs in the face of how everything at Versailles runs, which is all just everybody's used as a tool for some other means, right?
Yeah.
And like she's the only one who doesn't seem to like fully like accept that that's true.
Like we've seen before that Andre just kind of laughs about how like everybody is just scheming politically for all these things and Oscar doesn't like just doesn't want to accept that.

(01:13:11):
Here, Girardelle laughs and is like, yeah, of course that like they don't give a shit about the king as a person.
Like none of them care. They've never cared.
So it seems like everybody around her is like willing to accept this and she is like unwilling to accept this.
And I think part of the reason that's why she likes Marie Antoinette so much is because Marie does care about people and does care about like morals and things like that, which is closer to what Oscar wants, how Oscar wants the world to work than anybody else there.

(01:13:39):
So I feel like this episode is really good in that way.
Yeah.
Oh man.
So you think they're they're like power couple, right? They're going to be the best king and queen France has ever seen.
Oh yeah.
They definitely aren't going to fumble the bag.
Oh dear. Yeah.
Yeah. No, it's going to get it's going to just keep getting worse from here.

(01:14:02):
This is also good. Sorry. Go ahead.
No, no, go ahead. Mine was going to be a guess or something, but continue talking about what actually happened in the episode.
Yeah. Well, I like this end off of do Barry of being like of her just being like, yeah, I had to do like a bunch of shady stuff and like a lot of underhanded methods, but like I literally had to do that to survive.
Like I lost my mom when I was five. You know what I mean? It's like you probably think that this is like I'm a terrible person and like to be fair, I kind of was a terrible person, but also it was this or nothing.

(01:14:33):
So yeah.
End of being sympathetic to her in the end, even though she was ridiculous.
Hear her calling when I ride that isn't a redhead anymore.
Yep.
Do we just ran for that and Louis 16 have children at any point? Well, they are both still kicking.

(01:14:57):
Yeah. I mean, they died when they're 35. So I think they probably do. Let me look that up.
Finally consummate that marriage. Long time coming.
Yes. She had four children. Two of them died during childhood and one of them lives to be King Louis the 17th.

(01:15:19):
Okay. Okay. I was going to say four kids and that's really going to stop popping those out soon.
Well, I wonder if that will be shown at all, right? Because they will be significantly older by the time this little goes down.
So I'm guessing they must have the kids at some point showed them.

(01:15:41):
She has one daughter that also marries somebody. Okay.
They have two kids that make it. One of them dies of age seven of tuberculosis.
Another one dies after 11 months.
Okay.
Interesting to see how much of that the show shows.
I feel like motherhood is not something we see with so Joe protagonist ever.

(01:16:06):
So yeah, that'll be interesting.
I know that we get like pretty into the revolution. Like I was just looking at the like top cast or whatever and we do get Robespierre.
So that's a person who like would only come up like pretty decently into the revolution.
So we get like all the way up to the end.
Okay, cool.

(01:16:27):
Okay, so that's episode nine.
And sorry, there's 4050.
There's 4040 episodes.
Okay, so we're a quarter of the way, basically.
So how are you like to happen?
I'm liking it. It is definitely interesting because so many.
Well, I guess we're seeing someone who's been the main antagonist up to this point is now gone from the show.

(01:16:50):
So I guess it's just going to be a lot of change and cast and arcs.
So that'll be interesting.
What do you have at you? What are you thinking?
Yeah, I was surprised because we first watched those couple episodes, right?
It didn't really seem like it's going to be more of a Oscar gender thing.

(01:17:13):
No, I thought it was going to be a lot more of like this week.
Duke Orleon has a new scheme and let's see how Oscar defeats it or whatever.
Right. I thought it was going to be much more of like a, you know, episodic TV show.
Part two news.
Oscar's warding things, right?
But really, it's been much more like a, I mean, I can really tell how this started off as a biography of Marie Antoinette.

(01:17:36):
It really is just like we're just jumping through time through things that happen in significant events to like show off the decline of France of the France nobility mostly.
And like the lead up to the revolution.
Because again, all of this does feel like it's leading up to the revolution.
Yeah, for sure.
Lots of foreshadowing.
And I guess it's mostly like, oh, I can see how it was definitely intended for Marie Antoinette to be the main protagonist.

(01:18:01):
And so it's, it's interesting having Oscar be the protagonist of the story because it doesn't feel like we get that much time with Oscar for Oscar being the main protagonist.
So hopefully that changes or we as it gets more like, I guess, revolutionary and it's going to fall into her skill set more than all this like palace politics stuff.

(01:18:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is much more like setup.
And I think that I'm guessing because you know, 40 episodes is quite some time we can't be jumping through history as much as we are now, right?
So I think we'll get more interiority.
Also, we know that like later on is when the story became more about Oscar. But everything up to this point really just like the episode where she falls from the horse and Andre goes on trial is like showing off that the nobility just blame people for stuff in a very unjust manner.

(01:18:53):
Right.
Yeah.
And you know, the first, you know, the first episode with person just kind of shows that like the love lives and intrigue can cause problems for different people and like, you know, again, gets people killed in the same way that the like rivalry between do Barry and Marie did.
And so like all of this stuff feels like you're setting up the decline of the nobility in France.

(01:19:18):
And I do think it is also setting up Oscar to be like really conflicted about the stuff that's been going on and like her position in the in the government, right?
Because it's like she's she's party to all this stuff that she doesn't like and doesn't think is good and she like, you know, goes up against it, right? Like she goes and vouchers for Andre, which is more than anybody else was doing, right?

(01:19:40):
Even Prince Louis, who was there who could have stopped this just didn't do anything.
And she's so worried about like their position, their own personal position.
So I'll be interested to see how Oscar reacts to the revolution because I'm guessing she's going to agree with most of it at the very least.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the like clash of agreeing with the reasons of the people versus her role of protecting the person that they're rebelling against.

(01:20:06):
Yeah.
Like her personal beliefs are totally in conflict with what her position in in the hierarchy is.
Yeah.
And I think early on is going to like now be in Louis 16th's ear, just like directing everything through him kind of.
It's just causing.
It's just causing. Yeah, I'm really interested to see how King Louis or yeah, now King Louis the 16th is going to govern.

(01:20:32):
So is he the son of one of the aunties that we don't like?
Um, I who is his parents?
Yeah, let me let me look at that.
Yeah, because I feel like you can very easily just get what you want through Louis thinking about Louis, Philippe.

(01:20:53):
Second, his father, different Louis.
Okay.
Okay.
So get it to us.
Louis, Philippe.
Everyone's been fucking Louis.
Duke or Lee.
Yeah.
Right. Again, because Duke early on is kind of like two different guys, right?

(01:21:15):
It's like both is both the following.
So they had.
So.
King Louis.
God, this is fucking confusing.
So King Louis the 14th.
Uh-huh. Was the king of France 1643 until his death in 1715.

(01:21:41):
His mom was the daughter of the Duke of Orleon.
Okay.
That family is who took over the royal line after the vote list.
People died off because they were like a distant relative.
And Philippe the second was the son of Louis.

(01:22:04):
So it's like several degrees of separation.
Oh my God.
Never mind.
Okay.
One of them repeats because there's incest.
Okay.
Okay.
Hold on.
You saw why I looked this up.
I'm not sure.

(01:22:29):
Family tree.
We need like a little anime graphic.
Why can't the show explain this to us?
Because I think it's going to be impossible to parse.
Let me see.
Let's see.
So useful charts.
Complicated.
Give people different names.
My God.
Louis is not that good of a name.

(01:22:50):
I think it's like Marie and then Marie, Teresa,
at least there's some difference between them.
Oh, fuck.
They're talking about the kingdom of the two Sicilies.
Oh, no.
Okay.
This is too much.
Okay.
They're related somehow.
Apparently.
Okay.
So the house of bourbon also had some claims on Spain.

(01:23:12):
What?
We're going to scratch that question.
This is too deep.
We can't go that deep.
I'll be able to figure this out.
Oh my God.
This tree goes back to 1200.
All right.
Okay.
I was going to research this recap it and we'll get an update.
Nice episode.
Maybe find out the relation somehow.

(01:23:35):
Oh my God.
Goodness gracious.
Okay.
See like so stuff things.
There's another Maria Teresa also on the bourbon side.
Everybody they need more names.
You ran out of names.
You guys fucked up.
You need more names than this.
This is bullshit.

(01:23:56):
I guess because just each individual doesn't matter that much.
They don't need different names.
Okay.
So we got to drop it.
We got to move on.
Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Okay.
All right.
I got it.
Okay.
So the king of France Louis the 13th in 1610 to 1630 43 had two kids.

(01:24:24):
One of them was Louis the 14th who would go on to be the king of
France.
And the other one is Philippe the first who became the first Duke
or became the Duke of Orleon.
That's where it splits.
And we go all the way down.
And it turns out that some guy had had a kid in this in the bourbon
family that went on to be the king of Spain.
And this is the thing that confused me anyway.

(01:24:45):
But the 15th is the king of France.
One, two, three, four, four times removed cousin is the Duke
of Orleon.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's four or I guess five.
Actually, I guess it's six for King Louis the 16th, right?

(01:25:08):
Because his dad and then six time removed is a couple of
times removed is a cousin.
Gotcha.
Okay.
And also they're related to the king of Spain who is his one,
two, three, three times removed cousin.
So three times removed.
Is that the same as third cousin?
I don't know.
I don't have cousins really.

(01:25:31):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's true.
No.
Sorry.
No.
My family tree is so like, you know, who knows?
I never paid attention to these kind of things.
It's a third cousin.
Okay.
Oh, no.
Once removed.
Okay.

(01:25:52):
Oh my God.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
So he is not his six times removed.
He's his sixth cousin.
You're removed if you're one generation up.
So the Duke Orleon in this is I think a generation above Louis
the 16th.
He would be his sixth cousin once removed.
This is fun.
Is this like fun that we're doing this?

(01:26:13):
I'm sure people are riveted.
Um,
Oh wait, is that even right?
Okay.
Okay.
That may not be right.
We're done.
We're done here.
Okay.
Okay.
No, no, no, no, I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
It's his fifth cousin.
No.
Yeah.

(01:26:34):
No, it's his fifth cousin once removed.
So it's one step to the right.
You become the first cousin.
If you move two steps to the second cousin, right?
So that's that way.
If you move up and up one,
you're the first cousin once removed.
So it's one less than the column that you're in,
but you add a removed, um, to it.
So is that, is that cleared up?

(01:26:55):
No.
Yeah.
Oh,
Oh,
Oh,
Oh,
Oh,
Oh,
Oh,
That has all of this,
joining us,
audience.
For this section where I try to figure out
how the hell you described dumb family tree stuff
that nobody should ever care about.

(01:27:18):
Uh,
Sorry.
Anyway,
They're more closely related to the kings of Spain right now.
Just know that.
I don't know if that's ever relevant.
What the hell is karma?
Who's the Duke of Parma?
And anyway,
I don't know
medieval royal boy.
Royal. Don't worry about it.
Crazy. European royal lines are trash, and I hate them.

(01:27:38):
And I'm glad we don't have to think about them anymore.
OK. Never ask again.
OK. Cool.
Thank you for that insight, Joe.
Much. My God.
Do you want to know what the current lineage of?
Oh, yeah, let's hear it.

(01:27:59):
Guess what?
The current line of a bourbon who comes from the Spain branch.
Guess what his name is, who is who would be the Duke of Burgundy,
Dauphin of France right now.
What do you think that is?
What do you think his name is?
What do you think his first name is?
Of course, it's Louis.
These motherfuckers can't think of another goddamn name.
I hate these guys.

(01:28:19):
That's not a good name.
He has a rightful claim to the defunct throne of France under the name Louis the 20th.
Awful, awful. I hate it. Oh, man.
OK. All right.
I can't wait for the revolution.
Joe worked so hard to get that info for us.

(01:28:41):
We should thank him with.
I hope you enjoyed 15 minutes of me talking about this stuff.
Leave a comment.
If I any of I said was right
on Apple podcast, while you're rating us five stars, remember to rate us five stars.
That's the important part of that.
Of that thing. This guy is not very attractive.
No, I can't imagine so.

(01:29:04):
What do you think, especially if we have incess games sprinkled in there?
That's true.
So he probably sucks because he's a rich guy.
Anyway, I shouldn't speculate about the illegitimate king of France.
Alleged.
Alleged.
They call it the Legitimist Pretender.
That's the title on Wikipedia, which is the incredible thing.

(01:29:26):
Dang.
It's like, oh, yeah, this loser thinks they should be king.
Anyway.
Bang.
Rate us five stars.
Leave a comment.
Thank you so much for doing that.
Please tell your friends.
This is a good, you know, if they want to learn about
how to describe family trees on an audio.
This is the go to reference.
This is a good way to do that.

(01:29:50):
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Please do that.
Remember, give your children different names.
Please, please, God, please name your kids different things.
Don't just keep naming them Louis.
Don't just keep naming them Fleepe.
There are other names in those two things.
Also, we have enough Charles's.
We don't need any more of those motherfuckers.

(01:30:12):
We're done with that.
Okay.
That's right.
Yeah.
Come on.
Different names.
Woo.
Yeah.
We're, you know, we can we can do some other stuff.
You're God.
Okay.
All right.
Yep.
Okay.
Thank you for listening and learning along with us.
And I promise I'm going to watch all the episodes the next time.

(01:30:33):
That was a oopsie on my part.
I must have got distracted by a nap or something.
It's him to happen.
We are trucking along.
Let us know.
We're going to be back.
We're going to be back.
We're going to be back.
We're going to be back.
We're going to be back.
We're going to be back.
We're going to be back.
We're trucking along.
Let us know what other bonus episodes you want.

(01:30:55):
I know my mom finally is listening to a podcast again now that we did a
trash park bonus episode.
Given the people that they want.
Yeah.
Thanks for joining us and we'll catch you next time.
Yeah.
With a correction corner possibly.
I'm going to go to nail this and someone cares enough to say something.

(01:31:20):
Yeah.
So we'll see.
We shall see.
Yeah.
All right.
Bye.
See you later.