October 25, 2022 • 39 mins
Bring your Earth-tones, your love of nature, and your best British accent...we are reviewing the Netflix hit, Hilda! Clearly, this show has a LOT of fans...but what do Laura and Kara think? Grab your favorite troll bestie and tune in to find out!
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Kara Edwards (00:00):
The views and opinions expressed by the should
they watch it podcast are thoseof two moms who happen to be a
registered play therapist and avoice actor for cartoons. So
while they may feel theiropinions come from a
knowledgeable place, they arestill in fact just opinions.
Should they watch it? A podcastthat takes the task of reviewing
your kid's favorite shows upyour to do list Hey there and
(00:22):
welcome to the should they watchit Podcast. I'm Kara Edwards
Laura Orr (00:26):
I'm Laura Orr. Today
Kara Edwards (00:27):
we are talking about Hilda Hilda I mean in the
theme song has no words butsounds a little like data data
Laura Orr (00:47):
there is a lot going on and yeah song but at the same
time, it feels like such abasics.
Kara Edwards (00:52):
We did it no justice whatsoever. Like that is
a fact.
Laura Orr (00:56):
I mean, how much more justice does it need to be
honest, do you love this song?
Kara Edwards (01:01):
I love it. Okay, I love the music. You inhale dI dt
music in general has this like Icould play this soundtrack
throughout the day and just behappy all day. You're right.
Laura Orr (01:14):
It adds so much value to this show. The but I will say
most overwhelming openingcredits for me go into Hilda
Kara Edwards (01:24):
what is going on with the open credit. What is
wrong? Opening credits?
Laura Orr (01:31):
It's just underwhelming the music. Oh,
yeah.
Kara Edwards (01:34):
I thought you were saying like the credit like the
whole because there's a lot oflike stuff going on while this
visually Yeah,
Laura Orr (01:41):
visually speaking, it's fine. This is just me. You
know how I am. I love a goodopener. I love when that can
kind of stick in your head thatyou can hum throughout the day.
If someone doesn't do this
Kara Edwards (01:53):
one, isn't it? I mean, but this isn't me. It's a
musical. It doesn't have anylyrics. There's nothing it's not
like necessarily even a catchymusical, which some of them are.
It's just a nice, lovely andinstrumental instrument. Sorry.
Yeah. And it's, of course, my
Laura Orr (02:07):
coffee, no sound of music and I will not be lending
you mind. So I'm so tired. We'vegot this weekend. I'm gonna
check this whole thing while wetalk. No, but nothing. They can
all be wonderful.
Kara Edwards (02:17):
They can't all be one. But they do use the intro
to actually give some hintsabout some things that are
you're going to be going on inthe seasons like, throughout
season one on the intro. There'slike you see so much love
between Hilda and her mom. Butthen the intro for season two.
We actually it looks like Hildais actually avoiding her mother,
(02:40):
Joanna and who fails to catchher as they're running around
and playing and it's kind ofthis foreshadowing of things to
come? Yeah, it's a season so
Laura Orr (02:50):
so if anyone who's wondering what we're talking
about, we are talking about theshow Hilda? It is a Netflix show
cartoon. It's about it's got twoseasons so far. About 25 minutes
long. piece. Yes.
Kara Edwards (03:04):
2324 25.
Laura Orr (03:05):
So before we dive into the premise of the show,
Kara, should they watch it?
Kara Edwards (03:10):
Oh, heck yeah,
Laura Orr (03:11):
you're Yeah, but
Kara Edwards (03:12):
I'm an enormous Yes, I was the one who actually
suggested we review Hildabecause Michael and I have been
watching this show for years.
And it's just one of those showsthat always makes me smile. I
will go through my long list ofwhy I think this is such a great
show. What could be problematicdepending on your kid. But
first, Laura, what do you think?
(03:36):
Should they watch it?
Laura Orr (03:37):
I'm a yes as well.
Okay. Yes, I am. I
Kara Edwards (03:41):
wasn't sure if you were gonna like this one.
Laura Orr (03:43):
I I feel like I should have liked it more than I
did. But the things that Ididn't necessarily love about
it, I think are just a matter oftaste, but I feel like I should
like knowing who I am. This hasa lot of elements to it that
that feel like this is right upLaura's alley, but I don't know
if it was the mood I'm in Idon't know if it was just, you
(04:05):
know, the wrong time for me tobe watching this. I just did not
cling to the show. Like Ithought I might. Okay,
Kara Edwards (04:12):
I can see that. I could see that I felt
Laura Orr (04:14):
it felt a little sleepy to me. All right at the
same time. Um, I think we'llwe'll argue our case for this
show as we move forward. I bet Imean, at the very front, I would
say yes, this is a show thatthey should watch.
Kara Edwards (04:30):
Okay, sure. Okay, so what is it about we have a
girl Hilda and her mum who liveway out in the woods where
monsters and talking wood peopleare abundant. But there is a new
prime minister of the trollsbecause there's also trolls out
in these woods and they believethat the house belongs to his
people so they attack and aftermuch to do and an accidental
(04:53):
flattening of their house Hildaand her mum moved to the city
which is otherwise known astroll Burg Um, while there Hilda
struggles as she learns how tomake friends for the first time
in her life, live with outnature and wilderness, and her
giant controls and things thatshe loves. And yet, she still
(05:13):
manages to find the monstersand, you know, learn many things
along the way.
Laura Orr (05:18):
Yeah, so the majestic things that she saw in the
forest are still, you know, areliving in her life in the city
as well. They just look a littlebit different.
Kara Edwards (05:29):
Yeah, this is a British show like this is
imagine it's like it's likePeppa Pig only like a completely
different concept. Yes, your
Laura Orr (05:36):
children will be talking like Hilda by the end of
this journey for sure. No
Kara Edwards (05:40):
question. So wait.
Acting is so good. You like it?
Oh, I love it. I mean, outsideof the fact that to me, the mom
sounds like Minnie Driver.
Hilda's mom. And I kept like,picturing Minnie Driver and it
is not Mini Driver. But all ofthe voices the voices of the
monsters are unexpected andwonderful. The trolls and
(06:02):
there's Yeah, for me, there'sjust so much to love on with
this one.
Laura Orr (06:10):
It's all very gentle.
Kara Edwards (06:12):
The voices I felt very gentle.
Laura Orr (06:15):
It needs like big characters, because there are
trolls like you said scarymonster monster monsters, but I
didn't. But I felt like theyapproached even these creatures
very softly. And I felt likethat makes it more palatable for
a younger audience if you ifthey are to watch it, that these
be potentially scary. Imagery isalso accompanied by a much
(06:38):
softer. Ad. I don't know
Kara Edwards (06:42):
voice I mean, they're nice. Yeah, even when
they're screaming, it's notsuper scary screaming. And the
colors are very subdued colors.
Like whoever did the coloring onthis animation. I want them to
come and design my entire house.
It's like the most relaxing,earthy, natural tones neutral
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colors with some bright splashesof her hair. Hilda's hair is
blue. And her outfit has thisamazing. I don't even know what
color that is. orangish type ofcolor. Yeah, that they repeat.
Like everything kind of matchesand goes together very sweetly,
which I think is so surprisingto me, because I know how much
(07:24):
you loved puffing rock, which Ibasically slept through. And now
we're on Hilda, which is thecalmness and color of puff and
Ron but has a story.
Laura Orr (07:37):
I thought of puff and rock when I watched this. I was
like this is definitely poppin.
I mean, we're we've reviewedseveral shows where the overall,
you know, vibe, I guess is verycalm and purposeful. And this
slides right into that. And so Ican't help but think of pop and
(07:59):
rock whenever we do this becauseit's just funny how you and I
react so differently. This styleis show rarely do we either we
either like love it so much. Andwe're on we're in for the ride
or we fall asleep. I don't and Ican't figure that
Kara Edwards (08:16):
doesn't make sense how that like because yeah, puff
and rock for me. Again, I lovedit. It was calm, and it's great
for children. But for me to sitdown and watch it like news, bad
news fast. I know. But Hilda forme, I mean, like I said, Michael
and I've been watching this showfor years like this is one I
have always said enjoyed sittingdown and following the story.
(08:39):
And even jumping in and out likethis isn't it is sequential. And
it is good to start from thebeginning. But this is one where
you can jump in and just watchan episode and enjoy it. Yep,
yeah. And then go about
Laura Orr (08:49):
your day. It's not plot. It's not super plot heavy.
They kind of do a lot of thesame thing in different
episodes, but just put adifferent twist on it or it's a
different monster differentchallenge that she's dealing
with. But yeah, it's not likethese heavy heavy shows that
we've reviewed in the past whereif you miss an episode, you're
gonna be totally lost, which Ican totally appreciate that.
Kara Edwards (09:09):
I like that too is show is based on a series of
graphic novels by cartoonistLuke Pearson. He was actually
also a writer on the CartoonNetwork series Adventure Time.
So no, but I've definitely heardof so. So this is not not a
newbie to the writing andcreating business. This show has
(09:33):
a huge fan following yeah hugehas 8.5 out of 10 on IMDb. It is
rated TV, why seven? But it islet me tell you it is gone. Read
it go online and it is likefanpages four
Laura Orr (09:50):
days so it's a TTY seven. Do you agree? Who do you
think is the audience?
Kara Edwards (09:54):
You know what I feel? I feel a younger audience
can handle this. I know I'm inand I understand why they did
why seven which means basicallythey don't believe anyone under
seven should be watching this ayouth under seven but I disagree
it no yeah, this is another andwe we preach this on our podcast
(10:14):
is no your kid there aremonsters there are scary
imageries there are creaturesthat disintegrate into green
dust and give you nightmares atnight there's there is what
could be considered scary stufflike Laura mentioned, it's not
done in a way that is overlyscary. There it is very subdued.
(10:38):
But yeah, if you have a kidthat's going to be sensitive to
stuff like that, then then yetjust go ahead and give them a
few more years. And then you cansit down and enjoy it together.
And I already
Laura Orr (10:48):
would say just skip a few episodes because there are
some episodes that aren'tparticularly scary, right? And
my two and a half year old,actually watched one of them and
she was engaged the entire time.
It wasn't one of the scarierones. It was one of the ones
towards the beginning. And sheactually liked it. And I think
it's because of the the calmsounds and the pretty visuals.
It's a very dreamlike show.
(11:12):
Yeah, a lot of times it feelslike it's just that other
worldly type of show very. Yeah,just very much like that. And
Kara Edwards (11:20):
you got to suspend your this is a suspension of
reality. Oh, yeah. This isfantasy shows. This is actually
based on Scandinavian folklore.
Okay, so it is, it feels veryfable like in the way that the
monsters interact in thesecreatures. And you just have to
accept that that is part of thisworld.
Laura Orr (11:43):
Yes. Yeah. And I think they introduce that to you
right at the very beginning,from minute one. Yeah. And they
do it in a really sweet way. Ireally enjoyed how they
introduced the elves, those thatthey are actually my favorite
characters that they lovepaperwork. It's just like a
really cute group of people orcharacters or, you know,
(12:05):
whatever, that you've heard of1000 times, but they're
presented so differently, thatwas really fun to get to know
them, and that they wererecurring characters throughout
the whole series is really fun.
So yeah, I think as far as anage cap, I would say probably, I
don't know if a tween would getinto it as much.
Kara Edwards (12:25):
I love this show.
I'm telling you. Reddit is fullof people
Laura Orr (12:29):
who think like tweens and teens would be into it. I
Kara Edwards (12:31):
think so I think this is a show that people can
get into, you know, obviouslythe, and that's going to be a
little bit of a gray area,because they're gonna go through
the like, is it going to keeptheir attention? I don't know. I
feel like it's something thatadults can appreciate.
Laura Orr (12:45):
Yeah, I think when you present a cartoon to a tween
and teen you've got you've gotto have something to catch their
attention because they're justgoing to see it as a cartoon.
Right? Unless it appeals to themin a certain way. And so I don't
know, it may or may not it haslike an indie feel to it that
might catch their attention.
Yeah, I think I put in my notesany Pacific Northwestern hippie
(13:05):
is gonna love because it is alot about nature. And it is a
total mood, like the mood ofthis is like going out in the
woods and seeing what you canyou know, what is under that
rock? What's under that rock.
Kara Edwards (13:22):
And it is very like I love I mean, there are
these giants. There's an episodewhere there are these giants and
one of them it tells this greatstory of how the Giants were so
misunderstood and they werebasically run out of town.
Nobody wanted them there. Andone of the giants is waiting on
another one and she turns into amountain and again, it has such
(13:45):
a fairy tale fable s ness to it.
And then my one of my favoritescenes in the whole series is
the Giants find each other.
Hilda resolves everything withthe trolls and the elves and
we're gonna stay andeverything's great. And one of
the giants steps on the houseand crushes the house. And they
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realize they have to move andthe mom watches the giant walk
off and she says they didn'teven notice what they'd done.
Yeah. And then Hilda looks downand realizes the entire time her
mom has now crushed one of thelittle elves houses, the troll
houses and she says, Oh, andit's just this great symbolism
of like, Yeah, watch what'sunder your feet. Like there's
(14:31):
there's so much more going onand the consequences of actions
and then I just love so much ofthe story and the lessons but I
hate saying lessons. But
Laura Orr (14:43):
no, I think that they reinforced that a lot on this
show to have this idea ofwherever you choose to go. You
need to understand that somebodywas probably there before you
and just because you haven'tseen in just because you don't
see Yet there might still besomebody there now. And I think
that that's something that wetalk we encounter a lot as
(15:08):
humans. Yeah. When we are tryingto do something the the impact
that it has on nature even whichI think is a big message here
that they try to explore, theimpact that we have on our earth
is something we usually don'tsee until we've already made a
huge impact already. And there'salready been quite a bit of
(15:30):
devastation, I think like, andnot to get too like high on a
pedestal about it. But you know,there's these issues with like
almond milk now and what thealmond you know what planting
almonds have so many almondshave done to like the soil, our
soil, and so we didn't realizethat until it was too late, we
had all these almond groves. Andso I think that that's a big
(15:51):
message that they are trying tobring out in this is just the
fact that merely existingwithout constant
conscientiousness. Yeah, can,you know, put a burden on
something or someone else and Ithat's at least what I picked up
out of it, and 100% Anotherthing I really liked about it,
(16:12):
that kind of ties into this isthis idea of the origin of
things, how things were made tobe like you said, the mountain
and where things come from, andhow we tell stories about them
today, yes, was a big messagethat they were that they were,
you know, exploring in this thatI really appreciated. And so,
(16:34):
you know, how how things are nowor how we view things, things as
they are now and are notnecessarily how they started
out. Right? And so that time cankind of change. The stories that
we tell in the trench can changethe truth. And so, through this,
you know, beautiful imagery andall this symbolism. I think that
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those were two of the bigmessages that I walked away from
I don't think my kids arewalking away from that, right.
Kara Edwards (17:02):
They're definitely more adult concepts. i But I do
think that kids are going tograsp on to things like kindness
to animals. Yes, a love of thewilderness that there is magic
out there if you're willing togo and find it. You know, there
and I love this sort of explore.
Brave Hilda's such a bravelittle adventure of a character
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fearless, completely fearless tomeet someone new understand who
somebody is. Don't just judge abook by its cover, ask questions
and figure out why they'reacting the way they're acting.
There's there's having to meetnew friends when she moves to
troll Burg. She's there'sthere's some great stuff in
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there about, you know, being thenew girl and navigating that.
Laura Orr (17:53):
Yeah, for sure.
Kara Edwards (17:54):
And you know it. I love the mom and daughter
relationship as well. I love theway that they interact with each
other. The mom, you know, I goback and forth when I watched
this series of is this Hilda'simagination? And sometimes her
friends and mom are willing toget into her like imaginative
(18:17):
play with her? Or do we justaccept Hilda as a reality? Like,
yeah, no, this is the worldwe're living in. And Mom is
seeing it because sometimes momsees things and sometimes she
doesn't. But she's alwayswilling to try and just get down
on Hilda's level and be like,Okay, so the Raven talks or
whatever thing is going on?
Laura Orr (18:37):
Yeah, whenever that question comes up, I personally
like to err on, it's all real.
It's just more fun to watch itthat way than just like this
misunderstood child is makingall this stuff up. And she's a
sort of, you know, a sore thumbor whatever. In a world of, you
know, straight and narrow. Ilike to
Kara Edwards (18:57):
think that and then my writer's brain is like,
where's the twist?
Laura Orr (19:00):
Yeah. What's the symbolism here? And she does
feel like she doesn't fit in, inmany ways. And, and, you know, I
would I, the way I saw it wasmore so that these things did
exist. She was just more open toit than maybe other people were
okay. And that's what made itkind of fun for me to watch as
(19:21):
you know. Yeah, it made iteasier for me. I got it. What do
you think?
Kara Edwards (19:25):
You know, I totally agree. I and I, you
know, one of the things thatreminded me of a little bit is
when I was a kid, you know, wedidn't have access to television
like kids have today. I mean, itexisted but there were basically
three things you could watch. Doyou want Mr. Rogers? Or do you
want Sesame Street or Carebearsand I was a big fan of the old
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comic strips. He nuts in heavenand Hobbes and all of those
things, and I couldn't wait forthe Sunday paper to come out
every week so that I could grabit and read all of it. comic
strips. And there is somethingvery similar to me when watching
this, that the pacing of it andthe comedy, if you will, and the
(20:11):
the lessons learned was held acomic book or a comic strip? No,
it was actually it was a graphicnovel. So that would be Yeah,
that would be very similar.
Yeah. Was how it started out.
And of course, I never read thebook. So it would make sense.
It's based on that. But we seestuff based on graphic novels
all the time. This one I feelreally honors. What a graphic
(20:32):
novel does, when it does it inthat capacity of just, you know,
each adventure is kind of slow.
And you you know, there's littlelittle bits in between that you
can kind of marinate on beforeyou get to the next big thing.
Yeah. And I that's justsomething that I super enjoy
with the with this.
Laura Orr (20:52):
Yeah, the same.
Kara Edwards (20:54):
I like that. It's you know, it's it's okay to be
different. I love shows wherethey take a kid that's just a
little bit different, and Hildais a little different, and her
two besties that she makes whenshe moves to Joburg, except that
she's a little bit different.
And again, they join her inthat. And they even acknowledge
it like it's okay that some ofthis stuff you take us to do is
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a little bit scary, becausethat's who you are. You're an
adventurer. And if we're goingto be your friends, we're going
to accept who you are.
Laura Orr (21:25):
I really also liked the episode where the were
Hilda's teacher is trying tobasically figure out what to do
about Hilda?
Kara Edwards (21:33):
Yes, because she hasn't had the best episode.
Yes, because she's verydifferent.
Laura Orr (21:37):
And she learns differently than the other
children. And so that was makingit hard for the teacher to keep
structure in the class, becauseHilda just wasn't following the
rules that she had established,and then all the other kids were
going along with. And I thoughtthat was really interesting,
because it kind of raised thequestion for me of whether or
not children who learndifferently should be separated
(22:00):
from their peers and put intospecial learning environments,
because that is what the teacherwas trying to do for her. And so
on a grander scale. I was reallypondering that as I watched that
episode, and ultimately, in thisepisode, the teacher decided to
keep her in the class because itwas better for her to be around
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her peers. And it was suggestedthat the teacher just needed to
be more flexible, which isasking a lot I know. But it felt
like the right choice for thethe show at least. Yeah, it did
have me thinking about that.
Because I know that that's aquestion that is asked a lot of
times at schools in our
Kara Edwards (22:41):
world. And yeah, I think you're right, like it is a
lot to ask of a teacher. Butwhat is better for the child?
Right?
Laura Orr (22:48):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know the answer to that.
Because I think I think thesolutions are complicated, I
think you can see benefit. Andthen also drawbacks, I mean,
because I remember growing up,they did something pretty
similar to that in our schoolwhere the kids were divided into
(23:09):
classrooms based on theirskills. Oh, and so you had a
class for the quote unquote,smart kids. And then you had a
class for the average kids andOkay, class for the kids who are
taking longer to learn things.
And so I know that this has beendone. I don't know if it's
necessarily good.
Kara Edwards (23:25):
I don't know if it's good when I think about
okay, and I obviously I come atthis with no expertise, no,
right. I can only speak on it asa parent. And I have one of
those kids, that can be achallenge to teach. Just because
his brain does work a littledifferently. And it works at
(23:47):
high capacity at all times. Andso I know that if asked like I
want my child is exposed seemslike the wrong word. But I want
him in an environment with asmany different children as he
can be with, like, I would hopefor kids that are smarter than
him, I would hope for kids thatare not quite as smart as him, I
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would hope. You know, I thinkthat makes for the best life. I
had an acting teacher that wasalways so important to me, a
great mentor. And she wouldalways say the best actors lived
the most interesting lives. AndI think that applies to kind of
all people and all children isthe more we expose ourselves to
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the more that we adventure, likea Hilda and get out there and
accept people and just get toknow them. And don't don't
prejudge somebody, but actuallyaccept them our lives become so
much richer, right? Because ofthose experiences. And that's
like when Yeah, I love that inthat episode. I love that the
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teacher had to come around andbe like, okay, so she's not
because it ultimately Hilda wasjust so misunderstood because
they hadn't encountered eachOther before there were someone
like that person. And so I'veloved how that was resolved. I
love how everything in this showis resolved. Yeah, there's and
there is resolution like theyhave a problem. And it's
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resolved and it's almost alwaysresolved with communication with
compassion with kindness. Andthat's something that I could
cheerlead all day long.
Laura Orr (25:23):
Yeah, there's a lot being said in the show. Which
makes me think that while thisis going to get the attention of
kids, it definitely is writtenwith an older audience in mind,
should they take the time towatch it? No question, because
this is stuff like I, our kidswould just be like, yeah, the
teacher wanted her out. And theteacher changed her mind and let
her stay like that's, you know,and yeah,
Kara Edwards (25:44):
and we see all these other things. So yeah, if
all these are their topics, soOkay, so we've clearly loved all
over Hilda pretty hard did youfind anything problematic?
Laura Orr (25:55):
Oh, personally, it was not just the scary imagery.
And then, you know, the pace ofthe show could be boring for
some people. But other thanthat, I didn't find a lot of
things about you.
Kara Edwards (26:08):
Same. I mean, the monsters could be scary. We've
touched on that. If you reallywant to dig for something and
boy do I think this is a stretchHilda does argue with her mom a
little Hilda does argue with theteacher a little there is some
sneaking going on. There is alittle bit of attitude here and
there. Boy, I mean, I that Ifeel like I am reaching the
(26:31):
stretch arm out as far as I canto grab on to those because No,
Laura Orr (26:34):
I think it's pretty light, her personality could be
seen as defiant. I mean, she isvery spirited, she grew up in a
different place where she wasallowed a lot more freedom. And
then she was asked to be in anenvironment that is much more
structured and has a lot morerules and expectations of her
(26:55):
and so she is adjusting to that.
And while she adjusts to thatshe is a little defiant and
yeah. And so you can see thatand she and her mom have very
frank and open conversationswith each other. And so
depending on what kind ofrelationship with you you have
with your child, this could beseen as something that you
wouldn't want your child toemulate. But maybe you do maybe
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you do value that kind of aconversation with a child so
again, it's that thing where yousay Yeah, it's
Kara Edwards (27:23):
really good to know your kid know yourself know
what what kind of relationshipyou have. This speaks to me
because this is exactly howMichael and I interact. This is
how I interact with mystepdaughter is very frank very
open and listening to who theyare. So you always look up one
star reviews on IMDb. I waslooking this time and boy are
(27:47):
they hard to find. Yeah,extremely hard to find. Because
this is such a well loved showthat I could not find easily a
one star review. I did find aseven star review that I thought
I thought it came so close to aone star review. I thought it
was funny that it was given usseven. Oh, let's hear it. Oh,
this is the seven out of 10review.
Laura Orr (28:09):
I'm already laughing.
Kara Edwards (28:10):
It's good, but not that good. Oh, the score would
be 6.8. If I could. It's got somany great reviews. And I don't
know why. Yeah, it's a greatone. But you just have to endure
the first couple of episodes.
That's a quote from reviews. Imean, it's not that bad at all.
But I could not rewatch a seasonor even watch an episode twice.
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And sometimes I got real boredduring it. I could sum the whole
show up with one sentencewithout any spoilers. Keep your
friends and have a greatrelationship with your parents.
This is the main thread and thestories just building on this no
matter how cool they are. Theywill always end up with this
track in the end. I'm not sayingthat this makes the story
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predictable, because it doesn't,but it just gets really boring.
Okay, so generally just thathope I like that it's the score
would be 6.0.
Laura Orr (29:05):
That's interesting.
And that that opening song I'mfeeling bad about what I said
about it. It's written byGrimes. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's
interesting. So Elon Musk hasprobably watched this probably
so they probably wonder if theylike have the soundtrack going
in their house. They should it'sso dreamy it's so dreamy it kind
of reminds me of I don'tremember the name of the episode
(29:27):
and bluey but it's the episodewhere bingo has like this really
awesome dream. It's one of thatmost beloved episode so I'm
sorry maybe it's called Dream Idon't remember but it has that
same just like very awesomemusic to accompany all of the
movement that just puts you in atrance. It's very like very
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cool. Anyways, that's a sillyreview. I feel like that person
was saying a bunch of
Kara Edwards (29:55):
say a bunch of really positive things but
saying they were bored. Theywere saying no Did you write
this review?
Laura Orr (30:04):
I feel way more interesting. I was gonna say
that person said one thing in 20different ways. But what could
you write? Don't buy, like I'm
Kara Edwards (30:16):
writing, but I'm bored. And I'm telling you that
it's fine, but I'm bored. Yeah,like,
Laura Orr (30:20):
Okay, do you we get it, you don't like it? It's
funny because that that is aperson I think, who is
struggling to see all themeaning behind the show? Because
we haven't even touched on the,the monsters and like, I feel
like the way that even themonsters to me represented like
nature and animals, yes, becausea lot of times the monsters
would appear scary. But really,they were just trying to get
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their baby back because of, youknow, their habitat was
disrupted, and they're having todeal with the consequences of
that. And so, I mean, how muchcan we relate to that when we
oh, that's
Kara Edwards (30:55):
all I can think about. What is that saying?
That's like it's not coming tomy brain, but it's basically
like, you never know whatsomeone is going through. Like
don't judge someone because youdon't know what they're actually
going through. Hmm. And it wasso much like I was like, I feel
like that was a lesson that wasjust being like, proven again
and again and again. I mean,
Laura Orr (31:16):
I feel like they could have replaced like,
whenever a troll got into theschool as like they could
replace this with any storyyou've read about a bear getting
into someone's backyard yet youknow, because it's like we are
living among animals and we arein in we are intruding on the
habitats so many times thatyeah, predators often end up in
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our space because of the waythat we have decided to inhabit
this earth. And so that's howthat is what I glean so much
from this show is like it's veryenvironmentally like I feel like
it's sending a lot ofenvironmental messages and so
when I was
Kara Edwards (31:53):
it's after my own heart and like no question Kara
Laura Orr (31:56):
you were meant to love this
Kara Edwards (31:57):
I am there's a reason i i honestly
Laura Orr (32:00):
I just probably need to watch it again. I don't know
what's going on with me it'sspooky season. This is not a
it's funny it's not a spookyseason show to me but it
definitely gives me a foul moodlike it is an autumn the colors
Kara Edwards (32:12):
that I'm telling you those colors like if I ever
move and then can afford to havesomeone come and like die like
literally from the ground upredo my house I'm gonna be like
can you go watch Hilda and thenkind of just decorate my house
after that who
Laura Orr (32:26):
are autumnal autumn no show like you can watch this
while knitting oh I cooking hotcocoa in front of a fire if I
miss out like, like an odd it isjust it is. What is that Taylor
Kara Edwards (32:39):
Swift sweater Sweater Weather what is that
Laura Orr (32:41):
album she came out with last year and it was just
fall what it was? Oh, yeah. Whatwas that one call?
Kara Edwards (32:47):
You can like listen to that after watching
Elda Yes, I
Laura Orr (32:51):
mean, this is a company that so hard and so
yeah, if that's if that's yourvibe, and you definitely see
some guys ease and
Kara Edwards (33:01):
get in and season three. So there is also a movie.
I have to scroll up in my notes.
There is a movie Hilda and theMountain King, it picks up where
Season Two left off. Hildeactually starts the story as a
troll living with trillapregnancy that wrong. My son
started the movie I was notthere. So I haven't seen this
movie yet. She enjoys her newfreedom and her powers that come
(33:23):
with being a troll. But ofcourse there's going to be
problems or it wouldn't be aninteresting show. And then
season three has been announcedthe Creator did come out and say
season three we'll move on fromthe events of the movie and
venture into some new territory.
So apparently Hilda is going toappear older. She's going to be
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dressed a little older. I've allthe characters are going to have
grown up just a little bit. It'sstill going to be Hilda he
assured us
Laura Orr (33:52):
I like that you don't see that often in cartoons.
Yeah. Where are
Kara Edwards (33:55):
they actually this is going to be where Hilda does
grow up and so it can't put herinto a new mindset and new
things going on. Fans are reallyhoping that Hilda develops a
long term fear I did read thaton. He hasn't said if that's
going to be happening or not.
Laura Orr (34:12):
Why do they want that so badly? Because she's
fearless.
Kara Edwards (34:15):
She's fearless. So I guess they want to see that
dynamic of her being afraid ofsomething. Yeah, so that I guess
that's the dynamic they'rehoping for but um, so it should
be very interesting. Theyhaven't said when season three
is coming out that I could findbut there is a season three in
the works awesome. And then thatshould be the final season.
(34:35):
We're going to be done withHilda this was supposed to be
two seasons, but it was sobeloved that they did the movie
and season three but he has beenvery clear that this will be it.
Okay, so there's more to come.
Laura Orr (34:49):
I think some of the best shows have a short run
time.
Kara Edwards (34:51):
I think some of the best shows are British.
Really I do. I think I have athing for British shows. I love
the pig. I love Have likeanytime there's that just that
lovely, you know, calmingBritish accent I just love
listening to it. Oh, okay.
Laura Orr (35:07):
I, I don't I I like I want to. I feel like I'm missing
something because I like Britishcomedy has never grabbed me
Kara Edwards (35:21):
like Monty Python type stuff. Oh my gosh, I
watched it so much as a kid Iwatched I watched the heck out
of Monty Python Did I did I loveit? I think I love the British.
I follow a thing on Twitter.
That's like, no context British.
And they just post videos ofBritish people being British
with no context. And it is byfar the best thing I follow on
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Twitter.
Laura Orr (35:42):
It's a Twitter thing.
Yeah,
Kara Edwards (35:43):
it's hilarious.
It's hilarious. I love Britishpeople. I do. They're just they
just don't dress.
Laura Orr (35:52):
Well, since we're talking about British people.
Did you know that the there's amovie that or is it a series
that came out with RowanAtkinson called Man versus B?
No, I didn't know this to haveseen it yet. I haven't seen it
yet. But it came out on Netflixa few months ago and it's
Kara Edwards (36:10):
it's a kid friendly. Is this something
we're going to review?
Laura Orr (36:12):
I mean, I would hope so because it's Rowan Atkinson.
He's Mr. Bean. Right. SoAtkinson. He is Mr. Bean. So,
and I I did watch that as a kid.
I mean, I've seen it to lots ofbody humor. I think it's
literally him trying to get abee out of the house and he
can't and he trashes the houseso who doesn't love that?
Kara Edwards (36:31):
I mean, that sounds amazing. And that's sort
of like something we're going toreview
Laura Orr (36:34):
for sure. Yeah, so
Kara Edwards (36:36):
um, so if you love British accents, we've got a
show for you Hilda and we've gotone coming up that will review
something really quick one lastfinal thought and then I'm done
is I noticed that I thought itwas interesting in those first
couple of episodes that the bigmonsters all had American
accents.
Laura Orr (36:53):
I did not notice
Kara Edwards (36:54):
that I did oh, well of course you mean wonder
logon voice actor notice allright, yep. But I mean, the the
voice acting is so good that youwouldn't notice it. But I was
like, I find it interesting. Butthen like the trolls and elves
did have British accents ordifferent types of accents. But
those those really really biggiants and kind of scary. First
(37:15):
things that were scary.
Definitely had American accents.
And I was like, What's themessage here? Guys?
Laura Orr (37:20):
Do you have a theory now? I don't know. Really.
There's got to be
Kara Edwards (37:24):
a reason but there's a reason cuz you don't
just have all British accents.
All right,
Laura Orr (37:28):
back to Reddit. We go you know, someone's talked about
this. Yeah. So if
Kara Edwards (37:31):
you know if you know what the thinking was
behind the casting, I would bereally interested. Yes. Same.
Okay. I think I mean, I thinkthis is this is all I got too.
So please do let us know yourthoughts on Hilda or your
favorite British show becauseapparently I love them.
Laura Orr (37:48):
I've seen Shaun the Sheep. No, I
Kara Edwards (37:50):
haven't seen Shaun the Sheep.
Laura Orr (37:52):
I tried. I go more for the crown. That one is Oh,
like adult. Yeah, got it. Yeah,that makes anyway
Kara Edwards (38:00):
Shaun the Sheep is that when we need to review
Laura Orr (38:02):
the arrow it's always nominate No, please don't. It's
always nominated for like, okay.
It's always nominated forAcademy Awards. Yeah, no, it's
very, I think there are a lot ofeither movies or TV shows. It's
a very beloved show. It isBritish. It's nominated for
awards all the time. I tried towatch it. I wasn't into it. So I
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was curious if you liked it. Idon't know if it's a British
thing with me or not. Or justI've had bad luck. I don't watch
the crown. Camel. Camel.
Kara Edwards (38:33):
Yet I never ever I don't know who else in it. But
it's fantastic. It's so good.
Yeah, you gotta go watch thecrown especially with it. It's
the tis the season. Go watch thecrown. No,
Laura Orr (38:43):
it's spooky season.
Is the crown spooky.
Kara Edwards (38:45):
Well, no, just because like there's been
changeovers with the like, themonarchy and things have been
going on and it's no longerlife. Okay, so get through this
spooky season, get through fallseason and then go watch the
crown over winter.
Laura Orr (38:58):
Okay, I'll think about it. Okay, deal. All right.
Kara Edwards (39:00):
Let us know what you guys think you can find us
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watch it? Don't watch it. Watchit.
Laura Orr (39:11):
And next week, we're going to have a guest Alexis
from the satirical mommy isgoing to be here to help us
review Alpha blocks in the
Kara Edwards (39:18):
studio, which is really exciting. That hasn't
happened since Brina Plensa whocomes in studio, which means
there's gonna be some Sharonwith the mics because I only
have two ports to plug them in.
And great. And yeah, she'sactually going to be here with
us. So that'll add a whole newfun dynamic.
Laura Orr (39:33):
Thank you everyone for listening. See you next
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welcome to the should they watchit Podcast. I'm Kara Edwards
Laura Orr (00:26):
I'm Laura Orr. Today
Kara Edwards (00:27):
we are talking about Hilda Hilda I mean in the
theme song has no words butsounds a little like data data
Laura Orr (00:47):
there is a lot going on and yeah song but at the same
time, it feels like such abasics.
Kara Edwards (00:52):
We did it no justice whatsoever. Like that is
a fact.
Laura Orr (00:56):
I mean, how much more justice does it need to be
honest, do you love this song?
Kara Edwards (01:01):
I love it. Okay, I love the music. You inhale dI dt
music in general has this like Icould play this soundtrack
throughout the day and just behappy all day. You're right.
Laura Orr (01:14):
It adds so much value to this show. The but I will say
most overwhelming openingcredits for me go into Hilda
Kara Edwards (01:24):
what is going on with the open credit. What is
wrong? Opening credits?
Laura Orr (01:31):
It's just underwhelming the music. Oh,
yeah.
Kara Edwards (01:34):
I thought you were saying like the credit like the
whole because there's a lot oflike stuff going on while this
visually Yeah,
Laura Orr (01:41):
visually speaking, it's fine. This is just me. You
know how I am. I love a goodopener. I love when that can
kind of stick in your head thatyou can hum throughout the day.
If someone doesn't do this
Kara Edwards (01:53):
one, isn't it? I mean, but this isn't me. It's a
musical. It doesn't have anylyrics. There's nothing it's not
like necessarily even a catchymusical, which some of them are.
It's just a nice, lovely andinstrumental instrument. Sorry.
Yeah. And it's, of course, my
Laura Orr (02:07):
coffee, no sound of music and I will not be lending
you mind. So I'm so tired. We'vegot this weekend. I'm gonna
check this whole thing while wetalk. No, but nothing. They can
all be wonderful.
Kara Edwards (02:17):
They can't all be one. But they do use the intro
to actually give some hintsabout some things that are
you're going to be going on inthe seasons like, throughout
season one on the intro. There'slike you see so much love
between Hilda and her mom. Butthen the intro for season two.
We actually it looks like Hildais actually avoiding her mother,
(02:40):
Joanna and who fails to catchher as they're running around
and playing and it's kind ofthis foreshadowing of things to
come? Yeah, it's a season so
Laura Orr (02:50):
so if anyone who's wondering what we're talking
about, we are talking about theshow Hilda? It is a Netflix show
cartoon. It's about it's got twoseasons so far. About 25 minutes
long. piece. Yes.
Kara Edwards (03:04):
2324 25.
Laura Orr (03:05):
So before we dive into the premise of the show,
Kara, should they watch it?
Kara Edwards (03:10):
Oh, heck yeah,
Laura Orr (03:11):
you're Yeah, but
Kara Edwards (03:12):
I'm an enormous Yes, I was the one who actually
suggested we review Hildabecause Michael and I have been
watching this show for years.
And it's just one of those showsthat always makes me smile. I
will go through my long list ofwhy I think this is such a great
show. What could be problematicdepending on your kid. But
first, Laura, what do you think?
(03:36):
Should they watch it?
Laura Orr (03:37):
I'm a yes as well.
Okay. Yes, I am. I
Kara Edwards (03:41):
wasn't sure if you were gonna like this one.
Laura Orr (03:43):
I I feel like I should have liked it more than I
did. But the things that Ididn't necessarily love about
it, I think are just a matter oftaste, but I feel like I should
like knowing who I am. This hasa lot of elements to it that
that feel like this is right upLaura's alley, but I don't know
if it was the mood I'm in Idon't know if it was just, you
(04:05):
know, the wrong time for me tobe watching this. I just did not
cling to the show. Like Ithought I might. Okay,
Kara Edwards (04:12):
I can see that. I could see that I felt
Laura Orr (04:14):
it felt a little sleepy to me. All right at the
same time. Um, I think we'llwe'll argue our case for this
show as we move forward. I bet Imean, at the very front, I would
say yes, this is a show thatthey should watch.
Kara Edwards (04:30):
Okay, sure. Okay, so what is it about we have a
girl Hilda and her mum who liveway out in the woods where
monsters and talking wood peopleare abundant. But there is a new
prime minister of the trollsbecause there's also trolls out
in these woods and they believethat the house belongs to his
people so they attack and aftermuch to do and an accidental
(04:53):
flattening of their house Hildaand her mum moved to the city
which is otherwise known astroll Burg Um, while there Hilda
struggles as she learns how tomake friends for the first time
in her life, live with outnature and wilderness, and her
giant controls and things thatshe loves. And yet, she still
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manages to find the monstersand, you know, learn many things
along the way.
Laura Orr (05:18):
Yeah, so the majestic things that she saw in the
forest are still, you know, areliving in her life in the city
as well. They just look a littlebit different.
Kara Edwards (05:29):
Yeah, this is a British show like this is
imagine it's like it's likePeppa Pig only like a completely
different concept. Yes, your
Laura Orr (05:36):
children will be talking like Hilda by the end of
this journey for sure. No
Kara Edwards (05:40):
question. So wait.
Acting is so good. You like it?
Oh, I love it. I mean, outsideof the fact that to me, the mom
sounds like Minnie Driver.
Hilda's mom. And I kept like,picturing Minnie Driver and it
is not Mini Driver. But all ofthe voices the voices of the
monsters are unexpected andwonderful. The trolls and
(06:02):
there's Yeah, for me, there'sjust so much to love on with
this one.
Laura Orr (06:10):
It's all very gentle.
Kara Edwards (06:12):
The voices I felt very gentle.
Laura Orr (06:15):
It needs like big characters, because there are
trolls like you said scarymonster monster monsters, but I
didn't. But I felt like theyapproached even these creatures
very softly. And I felt likethat makes it more palatable for
a younger audience if you ifthey are to watch it, that these
be potentially scary. Imagery isalso accompanied by a much
(06:38):
softer. Ad. I don't know
Kara Edwards (06:42):
voice I mean, they're nice. Yeah, even when
they're screaming, it's notsuper scary screaming. And the
colors are very subdued colors.
Like whoever did the coloring onthis animation. I want them to
come and design my entire house.
It's like the most relaxing,earthy, natural tones neutral
(07:03):
colors with some bright splashesof her hair. Hilda's hair is
blue. And her outfit has thisamazing. I don't even know what
color that is. orangish type ofcolor. Yeah, that they repeat.
Like everything kind of matchesand goes together very sweetly,
which I think is so surprisingto me, because I know how much
(07:24):
you loved puffing rock, which Ibasically slept through. And now
we're on Hilda, which is thecalmness and color of puff and
Ron but has a story.
Laura Orr (07:37):
I thought of puff and rock when I watched this. I was
like this is definitely poppin.
I mean, we're we've reviewedseveral shows where the overall,
you know, vibe, I guess is verycalm and purposeful. And this
slides right into that. And so Ican't help but think of pop and
(07:59):
rock whenever we do this becauseit's just funny how you and I
react so differently. This styleis show rarely do we either we
either like love it so much. Andwe're on we're in for the ride
or we fall asleep. I don't and Ican't figure that
Kara Edwards (08:16):
doesn't make sense how that like because yeah, puff
and rock for me. Again, I lovedit. It was calm, and it's great
for children. But for me to sitdown and watch it like news, bad
news fast. I know. But Hilda forme, I mean, like I said, Michael
and I've been watching this showfor years like this is one I
have always said enjoyed sittingdown and following the story.
(08:39):
And even jumping in and out likethis isn't it is sequential. And
it is good to start from thebeginning. But this is one where
you can jump in and just watchan episode and enjoy it. Yep,
yeah. And then go about
Laura Orr (08:49):
your day. It's not plot. It's not super plot heavy.
They kind of do a lot of thesame thing in different
episodes, but just put adifferent twist on it or it's a
different monster differentchallenge that she's dealing
with. But yeah, it's not likethese heavy heavy shows that
we've reviewed in the past whereif you miss an episode, you're
gonna be totally lost, which Ican totally appreciate that.
Kara Edwards (09:09):
I like that too is show is based on a series of
graphic novels by cartoonistLuke Pearson. He was actually
also a writer on the CartoonNetwork series Adventure Time.
So no, but I've definitely heardof so. So this is not not a
newbie to the writing andcreating business. This show has
(09:33):
a huge fan following yeah hugehas 8.5 out of 10 on IMDb. It is
rated TV, why seven? But it islet me tell you it is gone. Read
it go online and it is likefanpages four
Laura Orr (09:50):
days so it's a TTY seven. Do you agree? Who do you
think is the audience?
Kara Edwards (09:54):
You know what I feel? I feel a younger audience
can handle this. I know I'm inand I understand why they did
why seven which means basicallythey don't believe anyone under
seven should be watching this ayouth under seven but I disagree
it no yeah, this is another andwe we preach this on our podcast
(10:14):
is no your kid there aremonsters there are scary
imageries there are creaturesthat disintegrate into green
dust and give you nightmares atnight there's there is what
could be considered scary stufflike Laura mentioned, it's not
done in a way that is overlyscary. There it is very subdued.
(10:38):
But yeah, if you have a kidthat's going to be sensitive to
stuff like that, then then yetjust go ahead and give them a
few more years. And then you cansit down and enjoy it together.
And I already
Laura Orr (10:48):
would say just skip a few episodes because there are
some episodes that aren'tparticularly scary, right? And
my two and a half year old,actually watched one of them and
she was engaged the entire time.
It wasn't one of the scarierones. It was one of the ones
towards the beginning. And sheactually liked it. And I think
it's because of the the calmsounds and the pretty visuals.
It's a very dreamlike show.
(11:12):
Yeah, a lot of times it feelslike it's just that other
worldly type of show very. Yeah,just very much like that. And
Kara Edwards (11:20):
you got to suspend your this is a suspension of
reality. Oh, yeah. This isfantasy shows. This is actually
based on Scandinavian folklore.
Okay, so it is, it feels veryfable like in the way that the
monsters interact in thesecreatures. And you just have to
accept that that is part of thisworld.
Laura Orr (11:43):
Yes. Yeah. And I think they introduce that to you
right at the very beginning,from minute one. Yeah. And they
do it in a really sweet way. Ireally enjoyed how they
introduced the elves, those thatthey are actually my favorite
characters that they lovepaperwork. It's just like a
really cute group of people orcharacters or, you know,
(12:05):
whatever, that you've heard of1000 times, but they're
presented so differently, thatwas really fun to get to know
them, and that they wererecurring characters throughout
the whole series is really fun.
So yeah, I think as far as anage cap, I would say probably, I
don't know if a tween would getinto it as much.
Kara Edwards (12:25):
I love this show.
I'm telling you. Reddit is fullof people
Laura Orr (12:29):
who think like tweens and teens would be into it. I
Kara Edwards (12:31):
think so I think this is a show that people can
get into, you know, obviouslythe, and that's going to be a
little bit of a gray area,because they're gonna go through
the like, is it going to keeptheir attention? I don't know. I
feel like it's something thatadults can appreciate.
Laura Orr (12:45):
Yeah, I think when you present a cartoon to a tween
and teen you've got you've gotto have something to catch their
attention because they're justgoing to see it as a cartoon.
Right? Unless it appeals to themin a certain way. And so I don't
know, it may or may not it haslike an indie feel to it that
might catch their attention.
Yeah, I think I put in my notesany Pacific Northwestern hippie
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is gonna love because it is alot about nature. And it is a
total mood, like the mood ofthis is like going out in the
woods and seeing what you canyou know, what is under that
rock? What's under that rock.
Kara Edwards (13:22):
And it is very like I love I mean, there are
these giants. There's an episodewhere there are these giants and
one of them it tells this greatstory of how the Giants were so
misunderstood and they werebasically run out of town.
Nobody wanted them there. Andone of the giants is waiting on
another one and she turns into amountain and again, it has such
(13:45):
a fairy tale fable s ness to it.
And then my one of my favoritescenes in the whole series is
the Giants find each other.
Hilda resolves everything withthe trolls and the elves and
we're gonna stay andeverything's great. And one of
the giants steps on the houseand crushes the house. And they
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realize they have to move andthe mom watches the giant walk
off and she says they didn'teven notice what they'd done.
Yeah. And then Hilda looks downand realizes the entire time her
mom has now crushed one of thelittle elves houses, the troll
houses and she says, Oh, andit's just this great symbolism
of like, Yeah, watch what'sunder your feet. Like there's
(14:31):
there's so much more going onand the consequences of actions
and then I just love so much ofthe story and the lessons but I
hate saying lessons. But
Laura Orr (14:43):
no, I think that they reinforced that a lot on this
show to have this idea ofwherever you choose to go. You
need to understand that somebodywas probably there before you
and just because you haven'tseen in just because you don't
see Yet there might still besomebody there now. And I think
that that's something that wetalk we encounter a lot as
(15:08):
humans. Yeah. When we are tryingto do something the the impact
that it has on nature even whichI think is a big message here
that they try to explore, theimpact that we have on our earth
is something we usually don'tsee until we've already made a
huge impact already. And there'salready been quite a bit of
(15:30):
devastation, I think like, andnot to get too like high on a
pedestal about it. But you know,there's these issues with like
almond milk now and what thealmond you know what planting
almonds have so many almondshave done to like the soil, our
soil, and so we didn't realizethat until it was too late, we
had all these almond groves. Andso I think that that's a big
(15:51):
message that they are trying tobring out in this is just the
fact that merely existingwithout constant
conscientiousness. Yeah, can,you know, put a burden on
something or someone else and Ithat's at least what I picked up
out of it, and 100% Anotherthing I really liked about it,
(16:12):
that kind of ties into this isthis idea of the origin of
things, how things were made tobe like you said, the mountain
and where things come from, andhow we tell stories about them
today, yes, was a big messagethat they were that they were,
you know, exploring in this thatI really appreciated. And so,
(16:34):
you know, how how things are nowor how we view things, things as
they are now and are notnecessarily how they started
out. Right? And so that time cankind of change. The stories that
we tell in the trench can changethe truth. And so, through this,
you know, beautiful imagery andall this symbolism. I think that
(16:56):
those were two of the bigmessages that I walked away from
I don't think my kids arewalking away from that, right.
Kara Edwards (17:02):
They're definitely more adult concepts. i But I do
think that kids are going tograsp on to things like kindness
to animals. Yes, a love of thewilderness that there is magic
out there if you're willing togo and find it. You know, there
and I love this sort of explore.
Brave Hilda's such a bravelittle adventure of a character
(17:24):
fearless, completely fearless tomeet someone new understand who
somebody is. Don't just judge abook by its cover, ask questions
and figure out why they'reacting the way they're acting.
There's there's having to meetnew friends when she moves to
troll Burg. She's there'sthere's some great stuff in
(17:45):
there about, you know, being thenew girl and navigating that.
Laura Orr (17:53):
Yeah, for sure.
Kara Edwards (17:54):
And you know it. I love the mom and daughter
relationship as well. I love theway that they interact with each
other. The mom, you know, I goback and forth when I watched
this series of is this Hilda'simagination? And sometimes her
friends and mom are willing toget into her like imaginative
(18:17):
play with her? Or do we justaccept Hilda as a reality? Like,
yeah, no, this is the worldwe're living in. And Mom is
seeing it because sometimes momsees things and sometimes she
doesn't. But she's alwayswilling to try and just get down
on Hilda's level and be like,Okay, so the Raven talks or
whatever thing is going on?
Laura Orr (18:37):
Yeah, whenever that question comes up, I personally
like to err on, it's all real.
It's just more fun to watch itthat way than just like this
misunderstood child is makingall this stuff up. And she's a
sort of, you know, a sore thumbor whatever. In a world of, you
know, straight and narrow. Ilike to
Kara Edwards (18:57):
think that and then my writer's brain is like,
where's the twist?
Laura Orr (19:00):
Yeah. What's the symbolism here? And she does
feel like she doesn't fit in, inmany ways. And, and, you know, I
would I, the way I saw it wasmore so that these things did
exist. She was just more open toit than maybe other people were
okay. And that's what made itkind of fun for me to watch as
(19:21):
you know. Yeah, it made iteasier for me. I got it. What do
you think?
Kara Edwards (19:25):
You know, I totally agree. I and I, you
know, one of the things thatreminded me of a little bit is
when I was a kid, you know, wedidn't have access to television
like kids have today. I mean, itexisted but there were basically
three things you could watch. Doyou want Mr. Rogers? Or do you
want Sesame Street or Carebearsand I was a big fan of the old
(19:48):
comic strips. He nuts in heavenand Hobbes and all of those
things, and I couldn't wait forthe Sunday paper to come out
every week so that I could grabit and read all of it. comic
strips. And there is somethingvery similar to me when watching
this, that the pacing of it andthe comedy, if you will, and the
(20:11):
the lessons learned was held acomic book or a comic strip? No,
it was actually it was a graphicnovel. So that would be Yeah,
that would be very similar.
Yeah. Was how it started out.
And of course, I never read thebook. So it would make sense.
It's based on that. But we seestuff based on graphic novels
all the time. This one I feelreally honors. What a graphic
(20:32):
novel does, when it does it inthat capacity of just, you know,
each adventure is kind of slow.
And you you know, there's littlelittle bits in between that you
can kind of marinate on beforeyou get to the next big thing.
Yeah. And I that's justsomething that I super enjoy
with the with this.
Laura Orr (20:52):
Yeah, the same.
Kara Edwards (20:54):
I like that. It's you know, it's it's okay to be
different. I love shows wherethey take a kid that's just a
little bit different, and Hildais a little different, and her
two besties that she makes whenshe moves to Joburg, except that
she's a little bit different.
And again, they join her inthat. And they even acknowledge
it like it's okay that some ofthis stuff you take us to do is
(21:16):
a little bit scary, becausethat's who you are. You're an
adventurer. And if we're goingto be your friends, we're going
to accept who you are.
Laura Orr (21:25):
I really also liked the episode where the were
Hilda's teacher is trying tobasically figure out what to do
about Hilda?
Kara Edwards (21:33):
Yes, because she hasn't had the best episode.
Yes, because she's verydifferent.
Laura Orr (21:37):
And she learns differently than the other
children. And so that was makingit hard for the teacher to keep
structure in the class, becauseHilda just wasn't following the
rules that she had established,and then all the other kids were
going along with. And I thoughtthat was really interesting,
because it kind of raised thequestion for me of whether or
not children who learndifferently should be separated
(22:00):
from their peers and put intospecial learning environments,
because that is what the teacherwas trying to do for her. And so
on a grander scale. I was reallypondering that as I watched that
episode, and ultimately, in thisepisode, the teacher decided to
keep her in the class because itwas better for her to be around
(22:20):
her peers. And it was suggestedthat the teacher just needed to
be more flexible, which isasking a lot I know. But it felt
like the right choice for thethe show at least. Yeah, it did
have me thinking about that.
Because I know that that's aquestion that is asked a lot of
times at schools in our
Kara Edwards (22:41):
world. And yeah, I think you're right, like it is a
lot to ask of a teacher. Butwhat is better for the child?
Right?
Laura Orr (22:48):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know the answer to that.
Because I think I think thesolutions are complicated, I
think you can see benefit. Andthen also drawbacks, I mean,
because I remember growing up,they did something pretty
similar to that in our schoolwhere the kids were divided into
(23:09):
classrooms based on theirskills. Oh, and so you had a
class for the quote unquote,smart kids. And then you had a
class for the average kids andOkay, class for the kids who are
taking longer to learn things.
And so I know that this has beendone. I don't know if it's
necessarily good.
Kara Edwards (23:25):
I don't know if it's good when I think about
okay, and I obviously I come atthis with no expertise, no,
right. I can only speak on it asa parent. And I have one of
those kids, that can be achallenge to teach. Just because
his brain does work a littledifferently. And it works at
(23:47):
high capacity at all times. Andso I know that if asked like I
want my child is exposed seemslike the wrong word. But I want
him in an environment with asmany different children as he
can be with, like, I would hopefor kids that are smarter than
him, I would hope for kids thatare not quite as smart as him, I
(24:09):
would hope. You know, I thinkthat makes for the best life. I
had an acting teacher that wasalways so important to me, a
great mentor. And she wouldalways say the best actors lived
the most interesting lives. AndI think that applies to kind of
all people and all children isthe more we expose ourselves to
(24:30):
the more that we adventure, likea Hilda and get out there and
accept people and just get toknow them. And don't don't
prejudge somebody, but actuallyaccept them our lives become so
much richer, right? Because ofthose experiences. And that's
like when Yeah, I love that inthat episode. I love that the
(24:50):
teacher had to come around andbe like, okay, so she's not
because it ultimately Hilda wasjust so misunderstood because
they hadn't encountered eachOther before there were someone
like that person. And so I'veloved how that was resolved. I
love how everything in this showis resolved. Yeah, there's and
there is resolution like theyhave a problem. And it's
(25:13):
resolved and it's almost alwaysresolved with communication with
compassion with kindness. Andthat's something that I could
cheerlead all day long.
Laura Orr (25:23):
Yeah, there's a lot being said in the show. Which
makes me think that while thisis going to get the attention of
kids, it definitely is writtenwith an older audience in mind,
should they take the time towatch it? No question, because
this is stuff like I, our kidswould just be like, yeah, the
teacher wanted her out. And theteacher changed her mind and let
her stay like that's, you know,and yeah,
Kara Edwards (25:44):
and we see all these other things. So yeah, if
all these are their topics, soOkay, so we've clearly loved all
over Hilda pretty hard did youfind anything problematic?
Laura Orr (25:55):
Oh, personally, it was not just the scary imagery.
And then, you know, the pace ofthe show could be boring for
some people. But other thanthat, I didn't find a lot of
things about you.
Kara Edwards (26:08):
Same. I mean, the monsters could be scary. We've
touched on that. If you reallywant to dig for something and
boy do I think this is a stretchHilda does argue with her mom a
little Hilda does argue with theteacher a little there is some
sneaking going on. There is alittle bit of attitude here and
there. Boy, I mean, I that Ifeel like I am reaching the
(26:31):
stretch arm out as far as I canto grab on to those because No,
Laura Orr (26:34):
I think it's pretty light, her personality could be
seen as defiant. I mean, she isvery spirited, she grew up in a
different place where she wasallowed a lot more freedom. And
then she was asked to be in anenvironment that is much more
structured and has a lot morerules and expectations of her
(26:55):
and so she is adjusting to that.
And while she adjusts to thatshe is a little defiant and
yeah. And so you can see thatand she and her mom have very
frank and open conversationswith each other. And so
depending on what kind ofrelationship with you you have
with your child, this could beseen as something that you
wouldn't want your child toemulate. But maybe you do maybe
(27:16):
you do value that kind of aconversation with a child so
again, it's that thing where yousay Yeah, it's
Kara Edwards (27:23):
really good to know your kid know yourself know
what what kind of relationshipyou have. This speaks to me
because this is exactly howMichael and I interact. This is
how I interact with mystepdaughter is very frank very
open and listening to who theyare. So you always look up one
star reviews on IMDb. I waslooking this time and boy are
(27:47):
they hard to find. Yeah,extremely hard to find. Because
this is such a well loved showthat I could not find easily a
one star review. I did find aseven star review that I thought
I thought it came so close to aone star review. I thought it
was funny that it was given usseven. Oh, let's hear it. Oh,
this is the seven out of 10review.
Laura Orr (28:09):
I'm already laughing.
Kara Edwards (28:10):
It's good, but not that good. Oh, the score would
be 6.8. If I could. It's got somany great reviews. And I don't
know why. Yeah, it's a greatone. But you just have to endure
the first couple of episodes.
That's a quote from reviews. Imean, it's not that bad at all.
But I could not rewatch a seasonor even watch an episode twice.
(28:33):
And sometimes I got real boredduring it. I could sum the whole
show up with one sentencewithout any spoilers. Keep your
friends and have a greatrelationship with your parents.
This is the main thread and thestories just building on this no
matter how cool they are. Theywill always end up with this
track in the end. I'm not sayingthat this makes the story
(28:54):
predictable, because it doesn't,but it just gets really boring.
Okay, so generally just thathope I like that it's the score
would be 6.0.
Laura Orr (29:05):
That's interesting.
And that that opening song I'mfeeling bad about what I said
about it. It's written byGrimes. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's
interesting. So Elon Musk hasprobably watched this probably
so they probably wonder if theylike have the soundtrack going
in their house. They should it'sso dreamy it's so dreamy it kind
of reminds me of I don'tremember the name of the episode
(29:27):
and bluey but it's the episodewhere bingo has like this really
awesome dream. It's one of thatmost beloved episode so I'm
sorry maybe it's called Dream Idon't remember but it has that
same just like very awesomemusic to accompany all of the
movement that just puts you in atrance. It's very like very
(29:47):
cool. Anyways, that's a sillyreview. I feel like that person
was saying a bunch of
Kara Edwards (29:55):
say a bunch of really positive things but
saying they were bored. Theywere saying no Did you write
this review?
Laura Orr (30:04):
I feel way more interesting. I was gonna say
that person said one thing in 20different ways. But what could
you write? Don't buy, like I'm
Kara Edwards (30:16):
writing, but I'm bored. And I'm telling you that
it's fine, but I'm bored. Yeah,like,
Laura Orr (30:20):
Okay, do you we get it, you don't like it? It's
funny because that that is aperson I think, who is
struggling to see all themeaning behind the show? Because
we haven't even touched on the,the monsters and like, I feel
like the way that even themonsters to me represented like
nature and animals, yes, becausea lot of times the monsters
would appear scary. But really,they were just trying to get
(30:42):
their baby back because of, youknow, their habitat was
disrupted, and they're having todeal with the consequences of
that. And so, I mean, how muchcan we relate to that when we
oh, that's
Kara Edwards (30:55):
all I can think about. What is that saying?
That's like it's not coming tomy brain, but it's basically
like, you never know whatsomeone is going through. Like
don't judge someone because youdon't know what they're actually
going through. Hmm. And it wasso much like I was like, I feel
like that was a lesson that wasjust being like, proven again
and again and again. I mean,
Laura Orr (31:16):
I feel like they could have replaced like,
whenever a troll got into theschool as like they could
replace this with any storyyou've read about a bear getting
into someone's backyard yet youknow, because it's like we are
living among animals and we arein in we are intruding on the
habitats so many times thatyeah, predators often end up in
(31:37):
our space because of the waythat we have decided to inhabit
this earth. And so that's howthat is what I glean so much
from this show is like it's veryenvironmentally like I feel like
it's sending a lot ofenvironmental messages and so
when I was
Kara Edwards (31:53):
it's after my own heart and like no question Kara
Laura Orr (31:56):
you were meant to love this
Kara Edwards (31:57):
I am there's a reason i i honestly
Laura Orr (32:00):
I just probably need to watch it again. I don't know
what's going on with me it'sspooky season. This is not a
it's funny it's not a spookyseason show to me but it
definitely gives me a foul moodlike it is an autumn the colors
Kara Edwards (32:12):
that I'm telling you those colors like if I ever
move and then can afford to havesomeone come and like die like
literally from the ground upredo my house I'm gonna be like
can you go watch Hilda and thenkind of just decorate my house
after that who
Laura Orr (32:26):
are autumnal autumn no show like you can watch this
while knitting oh I cooking hotcocoa in front of a fire if I
miss out like, like an odd it isjust it is. What is that Taylor
Kara Edwards (32:39):
Swift sweater Sweater Weather what is that
Laura Orr (32:41):
album she came out with last year and it was just
fall what it was? Oh, yeah. Whatwas that one call?
Kara Edwards (32:47):
You can like listen to that after watching
Elda Yes, I
Laura Orr (32:51):
mean, this is a company that so hard and so
yeah, if that's if that's yourvibe, and you definitely see
some guys ease and
Kara Edwards (33:01):
get in and season three. So there is also a movie.
I have to scroll up in my notes.
There is a movie Hilda and theMountain King, it picks up where
Season Two left off. Hildeactually starts the story as a
troll living with trillapregnancy that wrong. My son
started the movie I was notthere. So I haven't seen this
movie yet. She enjoys her newfreedom and her powers that come
(33:23):
with being a troll. But ofcourse there's going to be
problems or it wouldn't be aninteresting show. And then
season three has been announcedthe Creator did come out and say
season three we'll move on fromthe events of the movie and
venture into some new territory.
So apparently Hilda is going toappear older. She's going to be
(33:44):
dressed a little older. I've allthe characters are going to have
grown up just a little bit. It'sstill going to be Hilda he
assured us
Laura Orr (33:52):
I like that you don't see that often in cartoons.
Yeah. Where are
Kara Edwards (33:55):
they actually this is going to be where Hilda does
grow up and so it can't put herinto a new mindset and new
things going on. Fans are reallyhoping that Hilda develops a
long term fear I did read thaton. He hasn't said if that's
going to be happening or not.
Laura Orr (34:12):
Why do they want that so badly? Because she's
fearless.
Kara Edwards (34:15):
She's fearless. So I guess they want to see that
dynamic of her being afraid ofsomething. Yeah, so that I guess
that's the dynamic they'rehoping for but um, so it should
be very interesting. Theyhaven't said when season three
is coming out that I could findbut there is a season three in
the works awesome. And then thatshould be the final season.
(34:35):
We're going to be done withHilda this was supposed to be
two seasons, but it was sobeloved that they did the movie
and season three but he has beenvery clear that this will be it.
Okay, so there's more to come.
Laura Orr (34:49):
I think some of the best shows have a short run
time.
Kara Edwards (34:51):
I think some of the best shows are British.
Really I do. I think I have athing for British shows. I love
the pig. I love Have likeanytime there's that just that
lovely, you know, calmingBritish accent I just love
listening to it. Oh, okay.
Laura Orr (35:07):
I, I don't I I like I want to. I feel like I'm missing
something because I like Britishcomedy has never grabbed me
Kara Edwards (35:21):
like Monty Python type stuff. Oh my gosh, I
watched it so much as a kid Iwatched I watched the heck out
of Monty Python Did I did I loveit? I think I love the British.
I follow a thing on Twitter.
That's like, no context British.
And they just post videos ofBritish people being British
with no context. And it is byfar the best thing I follow on
(35:42):
Twitter.
Laura Orr (35:42):
It's a Twitter thing.
Yeah,
Kara Edwards (35:43):
it's hilarious.
It's hilarious. I love Britishpeople. I do. They're just they
just don't dress.
Laura Orr (35:52):
Well, since we're talking about British people.
Did you know that the there's amovie that or is it a series
that came out with RowanAtkinson called Man versus B?
No, I didn't know this to haveseen it yet. I haven't seen it
yet. But it came out on Netflixa few months ago and it's
Kara Edwards (36:10):
it's a kid friendly. Is this something
we're going to review?
Laura Orr (36:12):
I mean, I would hope so because it's Rowan Atkinson.
He's Mr. Bean. Right. SoAtkinson. He is Mr. Bean. So,
and I I did watch that as a kid.
I mean, I've seen it to lots ofbody humor. I think it's
literally him trying to get abee out of the house and he
can't and he trashes the houseso who doesn't love that?
Kara Edwards (36:31):
I mean, that sounds amazing. And that's sort
of like something we're going toreview
Laura Orr (36:34):
for sure. Yeah, so
Kara Edwards (36:36):
um, so if you love British accents, we've got a
show for you Hilda and we've gotone coming up that will review
something really quick one lastfinal thought and then I'm done
is I noticed that I thought itwas interesting in those first
couple of episodes that the bigmonsters all had American
accents.
Laura Orr (36:53):
I did not notice
Kara Edwards (36:54):
that I did oh, well of course you mean wonder
logon voice actor notice allright, yep. But I mean, the the
voice acting is so good that youwouldn't notice it. But I was
like, I find it interesting. Butthen like the trolls and elves
did have British accents ordifferent types of accents. But
those those really really biggiants and kind of scary. First
(37:15):
things that were scary.
Definitely had American accents.
And I was like, What's themessage here? Guys?
Laura Orr (37:20):
Do you have a theory now? I don't know. Really.
There's got to be
Kara Edwards (37:24):
a reason but there's a reason cuz you don't
just have all British accents.
All right,
Laura Orr (37:28):
back to Reddit. We go you know, someone's talked about
this. Yeah. So if
Kara Edwards (37:31):
you know if you know what the thinking was
behind the casting, I would bereally interested. Yes. Same.
Okay. I think I mean, I thinkthis is this is all I got too.
So please do let us know yourthoughts on Hilda or your
favorite British show becauseapparently I love them.
Laura Orr (37:48):
I've seen Shaun the Sheep. No, I
Kara Edwards (37:50):
haven't seen Shaun the Sheep.
Laura Orr (37:52):
I tried. I go more for the crown. That one is Oh,
like adult. Yeah, got it. Yeah,that makes anyway
Kara Edwards (38:00):
Shaun the Sheep is that when we need to review
Laura Orr (38:02):
the arrow it's always nominate No, please don't. It's
always nominated for like, okay.
It's always nominated forAcademy Awards. Yeah, no, it's
very, I think there are a lot ofeither movies or TV shows. It's
a very beloved show. It isBritish. It's nominated for
awards all the time. I tried towatch it. I wasn't into it. So I
(38:23):
was curious if you liked it. Idon't know if it's a British
thing with me or not. Or justI've had bad luck. I don't watch
the crown. Camel. Camel.
Kara Edwards (38:33):
Yet I never ever I don't know who else in it. But
it's fantastic. It's so good.
Yeah, you gotta go watch thecrown especially with it. It's
the tis the season. Go watch thecrown. No,
Laura Orr (38:43):
it's spooky season.
Is the crown spooky.
Kara Edwards (38:45):
Well, no, just because like there's been
changeovers with the like, themonarchy and things have been
going on and it's no longerlife. Okay, so get through this
spooky season, get through fallseason and then go watch the
crown over winter.
Laura Orr (38:58):
Okay, I'll think about it. Okay, deal. All right.
Kara Edwards (39:00):
Let us know what you guys think you can find us
on all the places onlineInstagram, Twitter on our
website, should they watchit.com? Should they should they
watch it? Don't watch it. Watchit.
Laura Orr (39:11):
And next week, we're going to have a guest Alexis
from the satirical mommy isgoing to be here to help us
review Alpha blocks in the
Kara Edwards (39:18):
studio, which is really exciting. That hasn't
happened since Brina Plensa whocomes in studio, which means
there's gonna be some Sharonwith the mics because I only
have two ports to plug them in.
And great. And yeah, she'sactually going to be here with
us. So that'll add a whole newfun dynamic.
Laura Orr (39:33):
Thank you everyone for listening. See you next
week. Bye. Scribe and follow uson Instagram.
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