Emmalee Bierly, LMFT and Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT, owners and co-founders of The Therapy Group (@thetherapygrp), bring you the ShrinkChicks Podcast. ShrinkChicks is on a mission to make therapy and therapeutic topics more relatable and accessible. Each Monday, Emmalee and Jen will explore different mental health topics and invite you to sit in on their insight, humor, and knowledge, leaving the psychobabble behind.
This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen dig into the topic of breaking intergenerational patterns and the ways in which we end up just like our parents, for good and for bad. From inherited quirks and “mental health heirlooms” to subconscious habits we don’t notice until a third party points them out, they explore what to carry forward and what to leave behind.
Listener questions include how to cope when parents won’t acknowl...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen tackle one of their most requested topics: marriage advice! And as two Marriage and Family Therapists who are married themselves, they definitely have a lot to say on the topic.
From the best (and worst) advice they’ve gotten themselves, to questions like “How do you know if they’re the one?” and “What should we talk about before getting married?”, Em and Jen cover the messy, practica...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen are reunited on the pod after baby Birdie’s birth, who is already showing off by sleeping through the night and sending her sister Millie into a slight spiral. In this episode, the two tackle one of the toughest topics in relationships: repairing after infidelity. From the shame and secrecy surrounding affairs to the consistent behaviors that rebuild trust, they share why some couples ...
This week on ShrinkChicks, it’s a special takeover with Em and Nikki — producer, head of operations, and soon-to-be mom (hard launch alert 🚨). Nikki opens up about her journey to pregnancy, sharing what it’s been like to face the uncertainty of not being “100% sure” about having kids, navigating anxiety, and learning to get comfortable with the unknown.
Nikki is given full rein to ask Em anything and everything … as long ...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen dive into the messy, complicated, and oh-so-human world of duality: how two things can be true at once. From being grateful but still wanting more, to setting boundaries and feeling both relief and grief, they explore why holding contradictions feels so uncomfortable, and why it can also be a sign of growth.
They answer listener questions on everything from navigating personal struggle...
On this week’s rewind episode of ShrinkChicks, we’re revisiting one of our most-loved conversations: what does it really mean to be a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? Em and Jen unpack the difference between HSPs and empaths, why sensitivity can sometimes feel like social anxiety, and how to move through a world that often labels sensitivity as a weakness.
They explore what overstimulation looks like—shutting down in crowds,...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen dive headfirst into the murky waters of regret—why we feel it, how it shows up, and what it does (and doesn’t) mean about the choices we’ve made. From big life decisions to parenting fears and the spiral of overthinking in the shower, they explore why the fear of regret can be more paralyzing than regret itself, and how to move through it with compassion and clarity.
They unpack the d...
On this week’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen are diving deep into inner child work—what it is, why it matters, and how to know when it’s your adult self making a choice… or your 5-year-old self running the show.
They explore how childhood wounds shape big emotions and disproportionate reactions, what it means to reparent yourself, and how to move from autopilot to awareness. They also break down generational trauma—h...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen talk about how to grow together, even as life throws you curveballs like new babies, career shifts, mismatched speeds of change, and navigating personal growth when your partner isn’t quite there (or isn’t trying).
They explore what it means to walk in the same direction (even if at different paces), how to reconnect after disconnection, and the moments that challenge us to ask: Do I b...
On this week’s episode of ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen dive into the murky waters of when therapy isn’t working—and how to tell if the problem is the process, the therapist, or your own discomfort with growth. They talk about red flags and realistic timelines, the importance of therapeutic fit, and why sometimes therapy feels worse before it feels better.
They also mythbust common misconceptions (no, your therapist isn’t suppo...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about the pressure we can feel to be "the chill one" in our relationships. They discuss minimizing your needs and where that may stem from, the socialization of "the cool girl," how to slowly start expressing your needs if you're not used to doing so, why we can't expect others to read our minds, the difference between actually not caring vs. lack of self-advocacy,...
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about all things boundaries and their effect on relationships. They discuss when others prefer the version of you that has less boundaries, why discomfort doesn’t always equal “danger” or “bad," resentment stemming from a lack of boundaries, guilt as a natural reaction to setting a boundary, getting pushback on boundaries and why it doesn’t mean you did so...
This week on ShrinkChicks, you all get to meet Birdie, Em's newborn daughter! Emmalee shares her birth story and how her expectations for labor went completely out the window. She discusses dealing with unmet or different expectations, why comparison to others or even yourself can be challenging when it comes to birth and postpartum, information overload & control, medication during pregnancy, and what she learned from...
Emmalee and Jen are taking the week off from a new episode to practice what they preach and allow themselves a break to recharge. In this rewind episode, they teach us how to stop taking sh*t so personally. They discuss where taking things personally may stem from, times when we are more prone to taking things personally, and sensitivity to rejection. Then, Em and Jen answer your questions about constructive criticism, fee...
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about the painful emotion of rejection. They discuss why rejection stings so badly, how to reframe and depersonalize rejection, logic vs. emotion when it comes to rejection, why it can make many of us shut down, how to start to get more comfortable with rejection, and so much more! Tune in to gain insight, awareness, and action! PS: Fast forward to around ...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about self-sabotage and why we do it. They discuss how to identify if you’re self sabotaging, the different ways self-sabotage can present itself, if they consider themselves self-sabotagers, self-criticism vs. self-compassion, how self-sabotaging behaviors can be a protective mechanism, avoidance, fear of failure and discomfort, and so much more! Tune in to gain insig...
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about conflict languages! Much like love languages, we each gravitate toward certain patterns when in conflict. Em and Jen break down five different conflict languages to help you understand how you approach and navigate conflict. They discuss how to identify which conflict language(s) you speak, the avoidant + anxious dynamic in relationships, why you mig...
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are confronting conflict avoidance! They discuss how they each handle conflict personally, the two ends of the spectrum: from avoidance to reactionary, the benefits and downfalls of conflict avoidance, the temporary discomfort for long-term relief, why practice makes progress, getting comfortable with your tears, and so much more! Em and Jen also share a script to use if you find ...
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about happiness. They discuss happiness as an unwavering state vs. an emotion just like any other, the difference between happiness and contentment, the role that toxic positivity plays, the pressure we may feel both internally and externally to be only happy during certain life milestones, our obsession with happiness as a culture, why it can feel so ...
Happy Memorial Day! Emmalee and Jen are taking the week off from a new episode to practice what they preach and allow themselves a break to recharge. In this rewind episode, they dive into the topics of forgiveness, anger, and resentment. Em and Jen discuss why forgiveness is for us and not for the other person, the parts of forgiveness that they struggle with, how anger and resentment play a role, forgiveness AND holding ...
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