June 5, 2025 • 31 mins
Billie Logiudice shares her journey from creating a classroom in her childhood bedroom to becoming the "Chief Connecting Officer" at Hutto's Chamber of Commerce, driven by her passion to leave the world a better place through service and meaningful connections.
• Growing up as an "army brat" with educators as key influences shaped her path toward education and service
• Started in children's ministry after becoming a believer 26 years ago, eventually becoming a director at several churches
• Created "The Sandbox at Madeline's Place" teen center after family friend's suicide, providing a safe space where teens could connect with trusted adults
• Teens at the center crossed typical high school social boundaries, creating connections between diverse groups
• Currently serves as VP and COO at Hutto Chamber of Commerce, focusing on preserving small-town charm while managing rapid growth
• Celebrating Hutto's traditions like the 40th anniversary of Old Time Days helps maintain community identity
• Completing master's degree in strategic leadership and organizational management
• Faith guides her service mission: "God, what do you have for me today?"
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Piet Van Waarde (00:00):
So family you got kids.
Billi Logiduce (00:04):
Yes, all of them were a surprise.
Didn't know what any of themwere going to be.
Piet Van Waarde (00:10):
Oh, you didn't find out beforehand?
Nope, oh wow.
Billi Logiduce (00:13):
I always said that was the one thing that no
one could ever accidentally tell, or it's just 100% a surprise.
Piet Van Waarde (00:26):
And you liked that.
I guess you did, because youdid it each time.
Yeah.
Billi Logiduce (00:29):
I did.
Piet Van Waarde (00:30):
And your husband was okay with that.
Billi Logiduce (00:32):
I mean he wanted to know, of course.
Piet Van Waarde (00:35):
But he went with it, put your foot down.
So thank you for joining us foranother sidewalk conversation.
(00:56):
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Today I have Billie.
Now you're going to have tohelp me again with the name.
Billi Logiduce (01:54):
Lojudis.
Piet Van Waarde (01:54):
Lojudis.
When you see the spelling,you'll know why, I'm in trouble
and thank you for joining ustoday.
Billi Logiduce (02:02):
Billie, yeah, thanks for having me.
Piet Van Waarde (02:08):
So one of the things we do at the start of the
interview.
You're quite well known in thearea here because of all the
things you've been involved within your life, but maybe for
those who are watching it mightbe interesting to know a little
bit about how you grew up, whereyou grew up, and then we'll get
into what you're doing now.
Billi Logiduce (02:21):
Yeah.
I love it.
So I am an army brat.
I was born in New York and thenshortly after moved to what was
then Fort Hood.
We spent some time in Germanyseveral years and then came
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right back to Fort Hood Killeenarea, which is where I grew up.
I feel kind of lucky because wegot to stay.
My dad left often, you know,for deployments and stuff, but
that allowed us to, you know,have some roots.
Piet Van Waarde (02:57):
Oh, good yeah.
And who were some of your keyinfluences growing up?
Billi Logiduce (03:04):
That's a great question.
I always have to think back.
I mean, I had some really goodteachers.
I had some teachers that taughtme lessons, and maybe they were
hard ones, but I always go backto my educators, principals,
which may be why I was so drawnto education.
Piet Van Waarde (03:27):
And still, you know, yeah because that's a
large part of what you do now.
You still have a great passionfor that.
You were on the school board, Ithink, for a while, right, is
that true?
Billi Logiduce (03:39):
I am still oh you still are All right.
Piet Van Waarde (03:41):
Well, there you go.
Billi Logiduce (03:43):
Just sworn in for my sixth term.
Wow, great Congratulations.
Piet Van Waarde (03:48):
You are a great person to have on the board.
Billi Logiduce (03:50):
Thank you.
Piet Van Waarde (03:51):
Now here in the Austin area you are now serving
with the Chamber of Commerceand you've also been involved
with nonprofit work.
And anytime you know, anytime Imeet people who have like that
orientation towards service, I'malways curious like what
prompted that, Like what createdthe interest, Because it's not
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usually the money, it's not thenotoriety, it's basically about
serving people.
So talk us through a little bitabout your career, kind of some
of the places that you served,and then why that's been so
important to you.
Billi Logiduce (04:27):
You know, I think that, yes, service has
been a large part of my adultlife and really, if I am
thinking about this question,you know, even back into my
childhood, I can see where thatstarted.
I just told the story the otherday, when I was in fourth grade
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, so eight, nine years old, Iturned my whole bedroom into a
classroom to include a library,a whole library with Nice, a
whole like library with nice, um, and, and I like, had the
neighbors, all of theneighborhood kids, coming over
after school so I could tutorthem, um, you know, and I even
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took that a step further and,you know, had conferences with
their parents who entertain thislittle eight, nine-year-old
girl.
That's perfect.
So you know, when I think backto you, know I think about.
I see that you know starting wayback then, but I take it that
you really enjoyed school.
Piet Van Waarde (05:35):
then, like there must have been something
about the whole environment thatreally captured you.
Billi Logiduce (05:39):
Yeah, I think that school was my safe place.
Piet Van Waarde (05:43):
Okay.
Billi Logiduce (05:43):
So when you talk about you know influences, and
in my past I felt like that iswhere you know I was encouraged
and yeah, and my kids will youknow, say today we're not like
you, mom, school is not, butyeah, to day we're not like you,
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mom, school is not on there.
So I started when my kids wereyoung.
Their dad was deployed a lot,so that allowed me to kind of go
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where they went, and so Istarted serving in our
children's ministry shortlyafter I became a believer, which
now it's about 26 years ago,you know, started serving and
learning all the things aboutchildren's ministry and, you
know, eventually went on staffas the assistant children's
director and then later to bethe director of a couple of
different churches.
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So I don't know, I just havethat in me to leave the world a
better place to leave.
You know that legacy for mykids of you can make a
difference.
For my kids of you can make adifference.
Maybe your gifts are not thesame as mine, but the world
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needs what everybody has tooffer.
And and if I'm not modelingthat, if I say that but I'm not
doing that, then um, you knowwhat kind of rings?
Piet Van Waarde (07:17):
how old?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so um and then you didsome nonprofit work too right.
I mean, you were the directorof the nonprofit for that's, I
think, where we first met.
Billi Logiduce (07:30):
I think so.
Yeah, so you know, it's anonprofit teen center which we
got started shortly after one ofour good family friends and my
oldest son they were the sameage Madeline Haynes, committed
suicide and you know familyfriends.
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We got together and her parentsreally felt compelled to do the
same, like let's.
You know, use this to impactthe future generations and to
create a safe place where teens,largely middle school and high
school students, can come andhave trusted adults in their
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world that aren't their parents,who they say the same old thing
, but really expand that network, because we know that these
teens are the first to know whensomething is going down.
And so, again, just that ideathat you know, if we believe
that, then let's do somethingwith that.
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Adore working with young peopleand seeing them flourish and
and seeing them struggle throughyou know things and navigate
life and, you know, try towrestle with hard choices, or
because that adversity is, youknow, really what is shaping us
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and helping us.
No, I think this is a theme.
This was a theme in my lifewhich really taught me a lot
that the idea that you cannotexperience the mountaintop in
the way that God intended ifyou're never in the valley,
scraping your way through.
Piet Van Waarde (09:22):
Now it was called Madeline's Place, right,
If?
Billi Logiduce (09:24):
I remember right , the sandbox at Madeline's
Place, right, if I rememberright, the Sandbox at Madeline's
Place.
Piet Van Waarde (09:26):
Yeah, so the idea was that people could
relate and connect and play andhave conversation in a place
outside the home where theycould also connect and talk
about the real things of life.
Billi Logiduce (09:39):
right, that's right, that's right.
And one of the things that Ithink was just a beautiful part
of that is, you know, whenconflict arose or when things
you know felt kind of icky, oryou know things were going down
like we really were able to havea you know time out and say
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what does this look like?
The message there is be honest,be kind and speak up.
So again, like, let's practicethat, let's call it what it is,
and you know kind of role play,what does that mean, you know?
And so we got to like not justsay you know, you know, let's be
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nice to each other.
We, you know, we want to bekind to one another, but really
let's dig down and figure outwhat's going on.
Yes, and sometimes you don'thave time to do that in school
because you're going from onething to the next, and so I just
felt like it's an afterschoolteen center largely, so, you
know, we could have the time tostop and work through those
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things.
And, you know, one of thethings that I loved about it is,
um, you could be yourself there.
These kids were themselves.
Whether they were, it wasn'tlike oh, I can't talk to you,
you're banned, and I'm athleteand I'm theater and you're, you
know, it was.
They were all there, and sowhen they went back to school,
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they weren't necessarily bestfriends, but they knew they had
something in common, andconnection is just so important.
Piet Van Waarde (11:13):
Absolutely.
Billi Logiduce (11:15):
I think for these teens to recognize maybe
we're not best friends but Iknow, if something is up with me
, that you know we have that.
Piet Van Waarde (11:27):
We've worked on some stuff already.
Billi Logiduce (11:28):
Yes, yes so.
Piet Van Waarde (11:30):
Do you have a favorite story from Madeline's
place?
Billi Logiduce (11:34):
You know, I think I have probably have
several, but a couple have cometo mind.
There was one young lady whocame and she, you know we had
chairs like similar to this, andshe just curled up and went to
sleep and woke up and said thatwas the best nap ever and and
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one thing I always heard is likeif you feel comfortable enough
to take a nap in my house, thenyou're comfortable yes, yes so,
um, there was that.
And then, just another favoritethat comes to mind is when the
kids are like you know.
Miss Billy, can we live here?
You know and just knowing thatyou created that safe place and
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where kids want to be.
Piet Van Waarde (12:21):
One of the things I love about that story,
too, is you may know, but mybrother lost his son.
You may know, but my brotherlost his son, and when you have
a tragedy like that, you'realways trying to find some sense
of meaning in it, like how canthis be redeemed?
And so one of the things thatmy brother did was that he
created a foundation called theCaleb House, and there were a
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whole series of homes that werebuilt orphanages basically
around the world and one ofthose orphanages was built in
Haiti, and my niece, hisdaughter, would often go to the
orphanage in Haiti and help andserve, and along the way, she
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met a guy that eventually becameher husband, and now, every
time I see Rob and I see the twokids together, I can't help but
think that that is just likeGod to take a tragedy, to take a
heartache and then putsomething together that could
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never have happened outside ofthat tragedy, and I think that's
part of how God redeems it.
That doesn't mean that that'sokay or you're glad it happened,
but it just means that thetragedy is not the end of the
story.
And there are things God can doin the midst of it.
Billi Logiduce (13:41):
And I also think that we have to have something
to hope in, otherwise why do weget up every day, you know?
And when you don't have thatthing that you're hoping in, you
know for me, god, you knowrecognizing God in that, you
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know starting up this foundation.
I can't imagine the pain andgrief being a parent or you know
, I mean Madeline we were prettyclose and she would call me her
second mom and that kind ofthing but you know, to be able
to take that pain and grief andput it in something that you
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know you can get up the next dayand the next day and the next
day and keep, you know, going.
Piet Van Waarde (14:29):
Yeah, I love that.
All right.
Well, I'm going to switch gearsa little bit on you.
So you had that part of yourlife and now, more recently,
you've been serving with theHuddo Chamber of Commerce.
So Huddo is a little small town.
For those who may not know inthe Austin area, it's a small
town outside of Austin and thebig deal over there is the Huddo
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Hippo.
That's kind of our mascot.
We actually, carol and I, liveon the border of Huddo and Round
Rock.
In fact, out of our backyard ifyou go across the fence, we're
in Huddo.
Billi Logiduce (15:01):
So sometimes on GPS it'll come up as Huddo, as
Huddo.
Piet Van Waarde (15:05):
So first of all , tell us, tell those who may
not know what, what's the bigdeal in Hutto?
Billi Logiduce (15:16):
Why is Hutto a great place to work and raise a
family?
Yeah, you know, when my family,when we moved out there in 2000
, it was specifically for youknow, we're going to raise a
family and raise kids we wantedto be in a small community.
And you know, if we're going toraise a family and raise kids,
we wanted to be in a smallcommunity.
And you know, know, ourneighbors and and all of those
things and um, we, we got to dothat.
(15:39):
Uh, hutto is just um.
First of all, I think the hippois the unifier.
You know people rally aroundthat and and take some pride in
being.
Piet Van Waarde (15:48):
Now tell the story.
There's a legend behind thehippo.
Billi Logiduce (15:53):
I mean the legend has it that the circus
train was coming through townand stopped and the hippo
escaped in one of our creeks andso literally had to send a
telegraph down to the othertowns to say stop hippo on the
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loose, stop the trains untilthey could get the hippo back.
But also legend has it thatwhen it became the school mascot
they were playing against Hutto, was playing against the
neighboring town, taylor, andthe fans.
It was rainy and muddy and sothe fans in the stands were like
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they look like a bunch ofhippos down there playing and it
stuck.
Yeah, yeah, so the only hippomascot in the United States you
know for a school.
Piet Van Waarde (16:52):
Now, when I was serving on the huddle board,
they even put together a littleand maybe they still do it a
guide, like if you came tohuddle and you wanted to see
where all the main hippos were,you could get a map.
Billi Logiduce (17:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah , and you could do a little
scavenger hunt.
Did we still do that, yeah?
Piet Van Waarde (17:09):
All right Now.
What's your role at the chamber?
Billi Logiduce (17:12):
So I am the VP and COO, so I'm chief operating
officer, although I've nicknamedmyself the chief connecting
officer.
I love that was meant to come in.
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And you know Hutto's growing atsuch a fast pace and you know
how to connect the workforce andthe economic development that's
coming with the resources thatare available in the community.
And so that is truly been oneof my greatest learning curves,
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like education.
I could talk about that all dayand you know so it's been
really neat to one.
I've had to learn the businessside of it a little more in
depth and I have a lot more tolearn, but really seeing those
two worlds come together and saywhat do you need and how can we
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help?
Or we have this, so how doesthis make a difference?
Because the fact of the matteris, if we don't start building
that capacity in depth withinour workforce whether it's the
service industry or publicservice or manufacturing you
know all of those things andjust going back to that idea
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that what can we do what I cando might be different than what
you can do, but what we can dotogether could serve.
You know this, and I think thatuntil we start having those
conversations and getting aroundthe table and kind of hashing
that out, so that's really whatI've been working towards.
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What does that look like tobring all these worlds together.
And when we're in a room, whodo you need to know?
But, more importantly, whoneeds to know you?
And that's how it starts.
And maybe today, there you know, it just a good, good to meet
you, kind of thing.
But maybe tomorrow you're like,oh, what about you know?
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So I love that.
I love seeing you know howthose opportunities connect.
Perfect, yeah.
Piet Van Waarde (19:29):
Now, speaking of the growth, we've been
talking about this in thecommunity.
I wrote for Huddle LivingMagazine, as you might know, and
I served on the board in Huddleat the chamber, and so one of
the questions we've been askingand dealing with for quite some
time now is that you know, youhave all these people from all
around the country moving toTexas and, and you know, huddo
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is the beneficiary maybe in someways beneficiary, but for
others it's like no, we want tokeep this a small town.
So what are some of the thingsthat, like you're doing and the
chamber may be doing?
Because I think and the reasonI'm curious about it is not just
relevant for Hutto, but it'sfor other communities and other
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people that might be listeningwho are kind of facing that same
dilemma.
I think it's better.
I've been a part of when I wasliving in Missouri.
I was a part of someorganizations that were dealing
with a dying town and that'sreally hard Kids leaving and
population aging and thingsdying and that's really hard
Kids leaving and populationaging and things and that's no
fun.
But this is no less of achallenge when you are in a
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community where a lot of thecore was there because they
wanted a small town feel awayfrom the busyness of Austin.
And now you have all thesethings coming to Hdle and it's
changing the dynamic of the town.
So how do you strategicallyhold the small town vibe while
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accommodating the growth?
Billi Logiduce (21:00):
Yeah, that's a great question and one for sure
that is talked about a lot inour community, and so our
physical location of the chamberis located in a part of Old
Town, hutto, so downtownhistoric area, and so I've been
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thinking a lot about thatquestion in general.
You know, just sitting therelike saying what, what is it
what, and also what can we do.
Maybe we can't do everything,but what can we do.
And I just wonder if you know,I feel strongly that in these
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growing communities yes, youknow, there's the population
that is like no, we want thesmall town.
It just seems like to me andmaybe this is pie in the sky, I
tend to be like that rainbowsand kind of thinker, but you
know, just deciding that ifthat's important to us, keeping
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that small town charm, olddowntown charm, then let's
really focus on, you know,huddles growing.
There's no doubt whether wewant that or not.
Piet Van Waarde (22:14):
Right, it's coming.
Billi Logiduce (22:16):
So how do we preserve what we can preserve?
And let's decide what thatlooks like.
Let's decide what we canpreserve and let's decide what
that looks like.
Let's decide.
I think that you know it's soimportant oftentimes that if you
want to see something, you know, be the leader in those, you
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know, bringing people together.
Not that you have all theanswers, but you know, lead that
charge if that's what you wantto see.
And the downtown huddlebusinesses are kind of starting
to come together and talk aboutwhat makes sense down here.
And I think that's the key.
You know, keep those pockets ofdowntown old town and decide
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that, you know, like this, thisradius, this, you know, area
we're going to reallyconcentrate on, how we're going
to let the growth affect us,yeah, and and then let the, let
the other partners, let the city, other city partners you know,
decide around the large part ofthe community because that's
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happening.
So let them be the experts inwhat they're you know and kind
of you know, I don't know Again,I might just be like
overthinking that, but I thinkthat downtown Hutto has such a
unique maybe unique to usEverybody has their own downtown
but just that charm and thathistory, so much history down
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there.
So let's just decide it's kindof like I'll talk about God a
lot because that is important inmy life, but it's kind of that
idea that got to decide ahead oftime.
You know how you're going torespond, because you're not
always going to feel it.
I say this in marriage often.
I say it, you know, in so manythings, like you're not always
going to feel loving or feellike you want to love your
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spouse, but you decide ahead oftime that this is the commitment
and, like God, I love you morethan this marriage and I'm going
to honor you ahead of time.
That this is the commitmentLike God, I love you more than
this marriage and I'm going tohonor you.
And so bringing that back tothe downtown, if that is
important to us, and we're goingto decide ahead of time that
this is what we're going tocommit to and this is what we
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want to preserve, and just goabout it in that way, not saying
no to the growth, but we'resaying we want to protect this
part of it in this way.
So just making those decisionsahead of the feelings, because
the feelings you cannot trustyour feelings.
Piet Van Waarde (24:54):
So true.
One of the things that Ilearned as I was writing for
Huddo Living was that the peopleI would interview and I would
ask them why they came to Huddo,and one of the things that I
continued to hear was that theysaid there's just something
about the city, there'ssomething about the town,
there's something about the vibeand the hippos part of it, but
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it's, you know, football, it'sthe downtown, and I think, and I
hope again, I'm not being tooidealistic about this, but it's,
you know, football, it's thedowntown, and I think, and I
hope again, I'm not being tooidealistic about this.
But one of the questions that Ilove to think about is well, if
there are that many people whoare being attracted to the same
thing, then that's really good.
Like they're all wanting to do,they're wanting to keep the
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things that are unique aboutHutto, so let's celebrate that
as opposed to thinking well,growth necessarily means it's
not going to stay the same rightgrowth can mean, hey, the
people that are attracted tothis want the same thing.
And the other thing I think thechamber does such a great job on
is all the activities andevents right.
So there's some traditions withyou know the, the crab, what is
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the?
Crawfish festival old time days.
Billi Logiduce (26:05):
Yeah, this year's our 40th anniversary for
the old time days, so we've gotsome fun special things planned.
Piet Van Waarde (26:13):
So there's bands, there's booths, there's
all kinds of things, and I thinkeven just kind of continuing
those traditions helps toreinforce the fact that these
are some of our values, theseare the things that we hold dear
to us.
Billi Logiduce (26:25):
Yeah, and I think one of the challenges to
that point also is how do weleverage that and also value our
downtown neighbors?
Maybe?
The Chamber of Commerce is amembership-driven organization,
so our focus is on our membersand what we're providing, the
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value we're providing to them.
But that doesn't mean that wecan't be good neighbors, you
know, and so helping everybodyto kind of to buy in and
understand how these eventscould support.
And maybe that's just thinkingoutside of the box and
creatively about what can mybusiness do?
I can't.
I'm not a chamber member, forwhatever reason, okay, but as a
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good neighbor, what, what can we?
How can we get to a yes?
Piet Van Waarde (27:15):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
All right, so now you look atyour life for maybe next couple
of years.
What excites you?
What are you looking forward to?
Billi Logiduce (27:27):
Well, I mean personally.
I am just two classes away frommy master's degree.
Oh, congratulations.
So thank you Going back toloving school.
My kids will say that I I putmyself through college while
raising them and so got myassociates and bachelors and I
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was like you know, let's justkeep going.
So I'm I'm excited about that.
I'm I'm excited to be done.
It is strategic leadership andorganizational management.
Piet Van Waarde (28:02):
Wow perfect, so really it is.
Billi Logiduce (28:04):
It is falling right in line with the work and
the growth and opportunities andwhy I was hired for the chamber
.
Piet Van Waarde (28:12):
That's great.
Billi Logiduce (28:13):
The events are great and they are a community
builder and they support ourmembership through allowing them
to be part of that and bringingthe community together.
But as we're growing also we'vegot to be really mindful of how
are we supporting the smallbusinesses and bringing
education and resources to themwhile adding value to our large
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businesses and communitypartners and that kind of thing.
So just a wide open door, and Iam just always thinking about
like what if?
What if we?
You know, what if we tried that?
What if?
And so maybe the answer isn'talways yes, but if you never ask
the question, you're nevergoing to start the conversation.
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So I'm excited.
I'm excited to see how, hutto,you know maneuvers and you know
to your point, people arepassionate about our community
and you know, I think everybody,everybody wants that feel.
Everybody has a different wayto get there.
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So I'm excited to see how we,you know, navigate through that
and get to a place where youknow, we're all just really
proud and people are excited tocome to our community and
keeping that going and I meanjust personally, I'm excited to
be a part of that, you know, toget to say like, yeah, I, you
(29:43):
know I was a part of thatwhatever part, that is yeah.
Piet Van Waarde (29:47):
Well, I think you're a great person for it.
Thank you, and thank you fortaking the time to be with us.
I always have one last questionthat I'd like to ask, which is
and I have a I have a littlesneaky suspicion.
I know what the answer to thisone is, but I want to see, if
I'm right, If you had a lifemission statement, if you had
something that would say this ismy true north, how would you
(30:11):
describe it?
Billi Logiduce (30:16):
I mean, my true north is like God, what do you
have for me today?
Um, I can get off track andmyself and, and trust me, I get
into my feelings and um and allof those things.
But just keep coming back tohow do I bring you honor?
(30:37):
Um, you know, I don't wantpeople to see me.
I want people to see God in meand I I sometimes I miss the
mark and you're so unusual thatway, um, but yeah, like, like
what you know, god you've youhave.
(30:59):
You have created me with apassion and a drive to serve
others.
And and how do I do that in away that honors him and also, um
, that gives me the freedom tocelebrate that?
Piet Van Waarde (31:14):
the way he created me love that.
That's kind of where I thoughtyou would head but it's good to
hear from you and and the wayyou would put it, all right.
Well, thank you for joining usfor another episode of Sidewalk
Conversations.
If you like this episode andyou think there may be somebody
who could be helped by it, feelfree to like and share and join
us again next week.
So family you got kids.
Billi Logiduce (00:04):
Yes, all of them were a surprise.
Didn't know what any of themwere going to be.
Piet Van Waarde (00:10):
Oh, you didn't find out beforehand?
Nope, oh wow.
Billi Logiduce (00:13):
I always said that was the one thing that no
one could ever accidentally tell, or it's just 100% a surprise.
Piet Van Waarde (00:26):
And you liked that.
I guess you did, because youdid it each time.
Yeah.
Billi Logiduce (00:29):
I did.
Piet Van Waarde (00:30):
And your husband was okay with that.
Billi Logiduce (00:32):
I mean he wanted to know, of course.
Piet Van Waarde (00:35):
But he went with it, put your foot down.
So thank you for joining us foranother sidewalk conversation.
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Today I have Billie.
Now you're going to have tohelp me again with the name.
Billi Logiduce (01:54):
Lojudis.
Piet Van Waarde (01:54):
Lojudis.
When you see the spelling,you'll know why, I'm in trouble
and thank you for joining ustoday.
Billi Logiduce (02:02):
Billie, yeah, thanks for having me.
Piet Van Waarde (02:08):
So one of the things we do at the start of the
interview.
You're quite well known in thearea here because of all the
things you've been involved within your life, but maybe for
those who are watching it mightbe interesting to know a little
bit about how you grew up, whereyou grew up, and then we'll get
into what you're doing now.
Billi Logiduce (02:21):
Yeah.
I love it.
So I am an army brat.
I was born in New York and thenshortly after moved to what was
then Fort Hood.
We spent some time in Germanyseveral years and then came
(02:41):
right back to Fort Hood Killeenarea, which is where I grew up.
I feel kind of lucky because wegot to stay.
My dad left often, you know,for deployments and stuff, but
that allowed us to, you know,have some roots.
Piet Van Waarde (02:57):
Oh, good yeah.
And who were some of your keyinfluences growing up?
Billi Logiduce (03:04):
That's a great question.
I always have to think back.
I mean, I had some really goodteachers.
I had some teachers that taughtme lessons, and maybe they were
hard ones, but I always go backto my educators, principals,
which may be why I was so drawnto education.
Piet Van Waarde (03:27):
And still, you know, yeah because that's a
large part of what you do now.
You still have a great passionfor that.
You were on the school board, Ithink, for a while, right, is
that true?
Billi Logiduce (03:39):
I am still oh you still are All right.
Piet Van Waarde (03:41):
Well, there you go.
Billi Logiduce (03:43):
Just sworn in for my sixth term.
Wow, great Congratulations.
Piet Van Waarde (03:48):
You are a great person to have on the board.
Billi Logiduce (03:50):
Thank you.
Piet Van Waarde (03:51):
Now here in the Austin area you are now serving
with the Chamber of Commerceand you've also been involved
with nonprofit work.
And anytime you know, anytime Imeet people who have like that
orientation towards service, I'malways curious like what
prompted that, Like what createdthe interest, Because it's not
(04:12):
usually the money, it's not thenotoriety, it's basically about
serving people.
So talk us through a little bitabout your career, kind of some
of the places that you served,and then why that's been so
important to you.
Billi Logiduce (04:27):
You know, I think that, yes, service has
been a large part of my adultlife and really, if I am
thinking about this question,you know, even back into my
childhood, I can see where thatstarted.
I just told the story the otherday, when I was in fourth grade
(04:54):
, so eight, nine years old, Iturned my whole bedroom into a
classroom to include a library,a whole library with Nice, a
whole like library with nice, um, and, and I like, had the
neighbors, all of theneighborhood kids, coming over
after school so I could tutorthem, um, you know, and I even
(05:15):
took that a step further and,you know, had conferences with
their parents who entertain thislittle eight, nine-year-old
girl.
That's perfect.
So you know, when I think backto you, know I think about.
I see that you know starting wayback then, but I take it that
you really enjoyed school.
Piet Van Waarde (05:35):
then, like there must have been something
about the whole environment thatreally captured you.
Billi Logiduce (05:39):
Yeah, I think that school was my safe place.
Piet Van Waarde (05:43):
Okay.
Billi Logiduce (05:43):
So when you talk about you know influences, and
in my past I felt like that iswhere you know I was encouraged
and yeah, and my kids will youknow, say today we're not like
you, mom, school is not, butyeah, to day we're not like you,
(06:07):
mom, school is not on there.
So I started when my kids wereyoung.
Their dad was deployed a lot,so that allowed me to kind of go
(06:29):
where they went, and so Istarted serving in our
children's ministry shortlyafter I became a believer, which
now it's about 26 years ago,you know, started serving and
learning all the things aboutchildren's ministry and, you
know, eventually went on staffas the assistant children's
director and then later to bethe director of a couple of
different churches.
(06:49):
So I don't know, I just havethat in me to leave the world a
better place to leave.
You know that legacy for mykids of you can make a
difference.
For my kids of you can make adifference.
Maybe your gifts are not thesame as mine, but the world
(07:10):
needs what everybody has tooffer.
And and if I'm not modelingthat, if I say that but I'm not
doing that, then um, you knowwhat kind of rings?
Piet Van Waarde (07:17):
how old?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so um and then you didsome nonprofit work too right.
I mean, you were the directorof the nonprofit for that's, I
think, where we first met.
Billi Logiduce (07:30):
I think so.
Yeah, so you know, it's anonprofit teen center which we
got started shortly after one ofour good family friends and my
oldest son they were the sameage Madeline Haynes, committed
suicide and you know familyfriends.
(07:52):
We got together and her parentsreally felt compelled to do the
same, like let's.
You know, use this to impactthe future generations and to
create a safe place where teens,largely middle school and high
school students, can come andhave trusted adults in their
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world that aren't their parents,who they say the same old thing
, but really expand that network, because we know that these
teens are the first to know whensomething is going down.
And so, again, just that ideathat you know, if we believe
that, then let's do somethingwith that.
(08:35):
Adore working with young peopleand seeing them flourish and
and seeing them struggle throughyou know things and navigate
life and, you know, try towrestle with hard choices, or
because that adversity is, youknow, really what is shaping us
(08:58):
and helping us.
No, I think this is a theme.
This was a theme in my lifewhich really taught me a lot
that the idea that you cannotexperience the mountaintop in
the way that God intended ifyou're never in the valley,
scraping your way through.
Piet Van Waarde (09:22):
Now it was called Madeline's Place, right,
If?
Billi Logiduce (09:24):
I remember right , the sandbox at Madeline's
Place, right, if I rememberright, the Sandbox at Madeline's
Place.
Piet Van Waarde (09:26):
Yeah, so the idea was that people could
relate and connect and play andhave conversation in a place
outside the home where theycould also connect and talk
about the real things of life.
Billi Logiduce (09:39):
right, that's right, that's right.
And one of the things that Ithink was just a beautiful part
of that is, you know, whenconflict arose or when things
you know felt kind of icky, oryou know things were going down
like we really were able to havea you know time out and say
(10:00):
what does this look like?
The message there is be honest,be kind and speak up.
So again, like, let's practicethat, let's call it what it is,
and you know kind of role play,what does that mean, you know?
And so we got to like not justsay you know, you know, let's be
(10:21):
nice to each other.
We, you know, we want to bekind to one another, but really
let's dig down and figure outwhat's going on.
Yes, and sometimes you don'thave time to do that in school
because you're going from onething to the next, and so I just
felt like it's an afterschoolteen center largely, so, you
know, we could have the time tostop and work through those
(10:44):
things.
And, you know, one of thethings that I loved about it is,
um, you could be yourself there.
These kids were themselves.
Whether they were, it wasn'tlike oh, I can't talk to you,
you're banned, and I'm athleteand I'm theater and you're, you
know, it was.
They were all there, and sowhen they went back to school,
(11:08):
they weren't necessarily bestfriends, but they knew they had
something in common, andconnection is just so important.
Piet Van Waarde (11:13):
Absolutely.
Billi Logiduce (11:15):
I think for these teens to recognize maybe
we're not best friends but Iknow, if something is up with me
, that you know we have that.
Piet Van Waarde (11:27):
We've worked on some stuff already.
Billi Logiduce (11:28):
Yes, yes so.
Piet Van Waarde (11:30):
Do you have a favorite story from Madeline's
place?
Billi Logiduce (11:34):
You know, I think I have probably have
several, but a couple have cometo mind.
There was one young lady whocame and she, you know we had
chairs like similar to this, andshe just curled up and went to
sleep and woke up and said thatwas the best nap ever and and
(11:55):
one thing I always heard is likeif you feel comfortable enough
to take a nap in my house, thenyou're comfortable yes, yes so,
um, there was that.
And then, just another favoritethat comes to mind is when the
kids are like you know.
Miss Billy, can we live here?
You know and just knowing thatyou created that safe place and
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where kids want to be.
Piet Van Waarde (12:21):
One of the things I love about that story,
too, is you may know, but mybrother lost his son.
You may know, but my brotherlost his son, and when you have
a tragedy like that, you'realways trying to find some sense
of meaning in it, like how canthis be redeemed?
And so one of the things thatmy brother did was that he
created a foundation called theCaleb House, and there were a
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whole series of homes that werebuilt orphanages basically
around the world and one ofthose orphanages was built in
Haiti, and my niece, hisdaughter, would often go to the
orphanage in Haiti and help andserve, and along the way, she
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met a guy that eventually becameher husband, and now, every
time I see Rob and I see the twokids together, I can't help but
think that that is just likeGod to take a tragedy, to take a
heartache and then putsomething together that could
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never have happened outside ofthat tragedy, and I think that's
part of how God redeems it.
That doesn't mean that that'sokay or you're glad it happened,
but it just means that thetragedy is not the end of the
story.
And there are things God can doin the midst of it.
Billi Logiduce (13:41):
And I also think that we have to have something
to hope in, otherwise why do weget up every day, you know?
And when you don't have thatthing that you're hoping in, you
know for me, god, you knowrecognizing God in that, you
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know starting up this foundation.
I can't imagine the pain andgrief being a parent or you know
, I mean Madeline we were prettyclose and she would call me her
second mom and that kind ofthing but you know, to be able
to take that pain and grief andput it in something that you
(14:22):
know you can get up the next dayand the next day and the next
day and keep, you know, going.
Piet Van Waarde (14:29):
Yeah, I love that.
All right.
Well, I'm going to switch gearsa little bit on you.
So you had that part of yourlife and now, more recently,
you've been serving with theHuddo Chamber of Commerce.
So Huddo is a little small town.
For those who may not know inthe Austin area, it's a small
town outside of Austin and thebig deal over there is the Huddo
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Hippo.
That's kind of our mascot.
We actually, carol and I, liveon the border of Huddo and Round
Rock.
In fact, out of our backyard ifyou go across the fence, we're
in Huddo.
Billi Logiduce (15:01):
So sometimes on GPS it'll come up as Huddo, as
Huddo.
Piet Van Waarde (15:05):
So first of all , tell us, tell those who may
not know what, what's the bigdeal in Hutto?
Billi Logiduce (15:16):
Why is Hutto a great place to work and raise a
family?
Yeah, you know, when my family,when we moved out there in 2000
, it was specifically for youknow, we're going to raise a
family and raise kids we wantedto be in a small community.
And you know, if we're going toraise a family and raise kids,
we wanted to be in a smallcommunity.
And you know, know, ourneighbors and and all of those
things and um, we, we got to dothat.
(15:39):
Uh, hutto is just um.
First of all, I think the hippois the unifier.
You know people rally aroundthat and and take some pride in
being.
Piet Van Waarde (15:48):
Now tell the story.
There's a legend behind thehippo.
Billi Logiduce (15:53):
I mean the legend has it that the circus
train was coming through townand stopped and the hippo
escaped in one of our creeks andso literally had to send a
telegraph down to the othertowns to say stop hippo on the
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loose, stop the trains untilthey could get the hippo back.
But also legend has it thatwhen it became the school mascot
they were playing against Hutto, was playing against the
neighboring town, taylor, andthe fans.
It was rainy and muddy and sothe fans in the stands were like
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they look like a bunch ofhippos down there playing and it
stuck.
Yeah, yeah, so the only hippomascot in the United States you
know for a school.
Piet Van Waarde (16:52):
Now, when I was serving on the huddle board,
they even put together a littleand maybe they still do it a
guide, like if you came tohuddle and you wanted to see
where all the main hippos were,you could get a map.
Billi Logiduce (17:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah , and you could do a little
scavenger hunt.
Did we still do that, yeah?
Piet Van Waarde (17:09):
All right Now.
What's your role at the chamber?
Billi Logiduce (17:12):
So I am the VP and COO, so I'm chief operating
officer, although I've nicknamedmyself the chief connecting
officer.
I love that was meant to come in.
(17:32):
And you know Hutto's growing atsuch a fast pace and you know
how to connect the workforce andthe economic development that's
coming with the resources thatare available in the community.
And so that is truly been oneof my greatest learning curves,
(17:53):
like education.
I could talk about that all dayand you know so it's been
really neat to one.
I've had to learn the businessside of it a little more in
depth and I have a lot more tolearn, but really seeing those
two worlds come together and saywhat do you need and how can we
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help?
Or we have this, so how doesthis make a difference?
Because the fact of the matteris, if we don't start building
that capacity in depth withinour workforce whether it's the
service industry or publicservice or manufacturing you
know all of those things andjust going back to that idea
(18:36):
that what can we do what I cando might be different than what
you can do, but what we can dotogether could serve.
You know this, and I think thatuntil we start having those
conversations and getting aroundthe table and kind of hashing
that out, so that's really whatI've been working towards.
(18:59):
What does that look like tobring all these worlds together.
And when we're in a room, whodo you need to know?
But, more importantly, whoneeds to know you?
And that's how it starts.
And maybe today, there you know, it just a good, good to meet
you, kind of thing.
But maybe tomorrow you're like,oh, what about you know?
(19:22):
So I love that.
I love seeing you know howthose opportunities connect.
Perfect, yeah.
Piet Van Waarde (19:29):
Now, speaking of the growth, we've been
talking about this in thecommunity.
I wrote for Huddle LivingMagazine, as you might know, and
I served on the board in Huddleat the chamber, and so one of
the questions we've been askingand dealing with for quite some
time now is that you know, youhave all these people from all
around the country moving toTexas and, and you know, huddo
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is the beneficiary maybe in someways beneficiary, but for
others it's like no, we want tokeep this a small town.
So what are some of the thingsthat, like you're doing and the
chamber may be doing?
Because I think and the reasonI'm curious about it is not just
relevant for Hutto, but it'sfor other communities and other
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people that might be listeningwho are kind of facing that same
dilemma.
I think it's better.
I've been a part of when I wasliving in Missouri.
I was a part of someorganizations that were dealing
with a dying town and that'sreally hard Kids leaving and
population aging and thingsdying and that's really hard
Kids leaving and populationaging and things and that's no
fun.
But this is no less of achallenge when you are in a
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community where a lot of thecore was there because they
wanted a small town feel awayfrom the busyness of Austin.
And now you have all thesethings coming to Hdle and it's
changing the dynamic of the town.
So how do you strategicallyhold the small town vibe while
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accommodating the growth?
Billi Logiduce (21:00):
Yeah, that's a great question and one for sure
that is talked about a lot inour community, and so our
physical location of the chamberis located in a part of Old
Town, hutto, so downtownhistoric area, and so I've been
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thinking a lot about thatquestion in general.
You know, just sitting therelike saying what, what is it
what, and also what can we do.
Maybe we can't do everything,but what can we do.
And I just wonder if you know,I feel strongly that in these
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growing communities yes, youknow, there's the population
that is like no, we want thesmall town.
It just seems like to me andmaybe this is pie in the sky, I
tend to be like that rainbowsand kind of thinker, but you
know, just deciding that ifthat's important to us, keeping
(22:03):
that small town charm, olddowntown charm, then let's
really focus on, you know,huddles growing.
There's no doubt whether wewant that or not.
Piet Van Waarde (22:14):
Right, it's coming.
Billi Logiduce (22:16):
So how do we preserve what we can preserve?
And let's decide what thatlooks like.
Let's decide what we canpreserve and let's decide what
that looks like.
Let's decide.
I think that you know it's soimportant oftentimes that if you
want to see something, you know, be the leader in those, you
(22:36):
know, bringing people together.
Not that you have all theanswers, but you know, lead that
charge if that's what you wantto see.
And the downtown huddlebusinesses are kind of starting
to come together and talk aboutwhat makes sense down here.
And I think that's the key.
You know, keep those pockets ofdowntown old town and decide
(22:57):
that, you know, like this, thisradius, this, you know, area
we're going to reallyconcentrate on, how we're going
to let the growth affect us,yeah, and and then let the, let
the other partners, let the city, other city partners you know,
decide around the large part ofthe community because that's
(23:21):
happening.
So let them be the experts inwhat they're you know and kind
of you know, I don't know Again,I might just be like
overthinking that, but I thinkthat downtown Hutto has such a
unique maybe unique to usEverybody has their own downtown
but just that charm and thathistory, so much history down
(23:53):
there.
So let's just decide it's kindof like I'll talk about God a
lot because that is important inmy life, but it's kind of that
idea that got to decide ahead oftime.
You know how you're going torespond, because you're not
always going to feel it.
I say this in marriage often.
I say it, you know, in so manythings, like you're not always
going to feel loving or feellike you want to love your
(24:16):
spouse, but you decide ahead oftime that this is the commitment
and, like God, I love you morethan this marriage and I'm going
to honor you ahead of time.
That this is the commitmentLike God, I love you more than
this marriage and I'm going tohonor you.
And so bringing that back tothe downtown, if that is
important to us, and we're goingto decide ahead of time that
this is what we're going tocommit to and this is what we
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want to preserve, and just goabout it in that way, not saying
no to the growth, but we'resaying we want to protect this
part of it in this way.
So just making those decisionsahead of the feelings, because
the feelings you cannot trustyour feelings.
Piet Van Waarde (24:54):
So true.
One of the things that Ilearned as I was writing for
Huddo Living was that the peopleI would interview and I would
ask them why they came to Huddo,and one of the things that I
continued to hear was that theysaid there's just something
about the city, there'ssomething about the town,
there's something about the vibeand the hippos part of it, but
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it's, you know, football, it'sthe downtown, and I think, and I
hope again, I'm not being tooidealistic about this, but it's,
you know, football, it's thedowntown, and I think, and I
hope again, I'm not being tooidealistic about this.
But one of the questions that Ilove to think about is well, if
there are that many people whoare being attracted to the same
thing, then that's really good.
Like they're all wanting to do,they're wanting to keep the
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things that are unique aboutHutto, so let's celebrate that
as opposed to thinking well,growth necessarily means it's
not going to stay the same rightgrowth can mean, hey, the
people that are attracted tothis want the same thing.
And the other thing I think thechamber does such a great job on
is all the activities andevents right.
So there's some traditions withyou know the, the crab, what is
(26:02):
the?
Crawfish festival old time days.
Billi Logiduce (26:05):
Yeah, this year's our 40th anniversary for
the old time days, so we've gotsome fun special things planned.
Piet Van Waarde (26:13):
So there's bands, there's booths, there's
all kinds of things, and I thinkeven just kind of continuing
those traditions helps toreinforce the fact that these
are some of our values, theseare the things that we hold dear
to us.
Billi Logiduce (26:25):
Yeah, and I think one of the challenges to
that point also is how do weleverage that and also value our
downtown neighbors?
Maybe?
The Chamber of Commerce is amembership-driven organization,
so our focus is on our membersand what we're providing, the
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value we're providing to them.
But that doesn't mean that wecan't be good neighbors, you
know, and so helping everybodyto kind of to buy in and
understand how these eventscould support.
And maybe that's just thinkingoutside of the box and
creatively about what can mybusiness do?
I can't.
I'm not a chamber member, forwhatever reason, okay, but as a
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good neighbor, what, what can we?
How can we get to a yes?
Piet Van Waarde (27:15):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
All right, so now you look atyour life for maybe next couple
of years.
What excites you?
What are you looking forward to?
Billi Logiduce (27:27):
Well, I mean personally.
I am just two classes away frommy master's degree.
Oh, congratulations.
So thank you Going back toloving school.
My kids will say that I I putmyself through college while
raising them and so got myassociates and bachelors and I
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was like you know, let's justkeep going.
So I'm I'm excited about that.
I'm I'm excited to be done.
It is strategic leadership andorganizational management.
Piet Van Waarde (28:02):
Wow perfect, so really it is.
Billi Logiduce (28:04):
It is falling right in line with the work and
the growth and opportunities andwhy I was hired for the chamber
.
Piet Van Waarde (28:12):
That's great.
Billi Logiduce (28:13):
The events are great and they are a community
builder and they support ourmembership through allowing them
to be part of that and bringingthe community together.
But as we're growing also we'vegot to be really mindful of how
are we supporting the smallbusinesses and bringing
education and resources to themwhile adding value to our large
(28:38):
businesses and communitypartners and that kind of thing.
So just a wide open door, and Iam just always thinking about
like what if?
What if we?
You know, what if we tried that?
What if?
And so maybe the answer isn'talways yes, but if you never ask
the question, you're nevergoing to start the conversation.
(29:00):
So I'm excited.
I'm excited to see how, hutto,you know maneuvers and you know
to your point, people arepassionate about our community
and you know, I think everybody,everybody wants that feel.
Everybody has a different wayto get there.
(29:21):
So I'm excited to see how we,you know, navigate through that
and get to a place where youknow, we're all just really
proud and people are excited tocome to our community and
keeping that going and I meanjust personally, I'm excited to
be a part of that, you know, toget to say like, yeah, I, you
(29:43):
know I was a part of thatwhatever part, that is yeah.
Piet Van Waarde (29:47):
Well, I think you're a great person for it.
Thank you, and thank you fortaking the time to be with us.
I always have one last questionthat I'd like to ask, which is
and I have a I have a littlesneaky suspicion.
I know what the answer to thisone is, but I want to see, if
I'm right, If you had a lifemission statement, if you had
something that would say this ismy true north, how would you
(30:11):
describe it?
Billi Logiduce (30:16):
I mean, my true north is like God, what do you
have for me today?
Um, I can get off track andmyself and, and trust me, I get
into my feelings and um and allof those things.
But just keep coming back tohow do I bring you honor?
(30:37):
Um, you know, I don't wantpeople to see me.
I want people to see God in meand I I sometimes I miss the
mark and you're so unusual thatway, um, but yeah, like, like
what you know, god you've youhave.
(30:59):
You have created me with apassion and a drive to serve
others.
And and how do I do that in away that honors him and also, um
, that gives me the freedom tocelebrate that?
Piet Van Waarde (31:14):
the way he created me love that.
That's kind of where I thoughtyou would head but it's good to
hear from you and and the wayyou would put it, all right.
Well, thank you for joining usfor another episode of Sidewalk
Conversations.
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