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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to
Simply Edifies podcast.
Our goal is to encourage womenas we navigate the messiness of
life through biblical studies,personal stories and practical
tips that bolster our walk withJesus daily.
Thank you for joining us in ourepisode today.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello and welcome
back.
We are on our second episode inthe series that we're doing
based off of our new devotionalthat we have.
If you would like to find thatand purchase that, you can find
it on Amazon.
It's called issues of the heart.
It is a 31 day Bible study andthese studies are not super long
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, so it's kind of just a coupleminutes to do in your Bible time
and looking over differenttopics that have root issues and
that, when we can kind of digthem out and get to the heart of
the problem, makes everythinggo a little smoother.
So today's topic is onrepentance versus guilt, versus
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just feeling guilty, Having truerepentance and conviction in
your heart, as opposed to thatkind of just feeling guilty.
It was interesting.
I went to a ladies conferencejust last weekend and one of the
breakout sessions was um, anelderly lady talking about guilt
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and it was really good.
She, you know, gave personalexample of how she just lived
with, you know, guilt and howshe's talked to she was a um, a
stewardess on a airplane for forher job for many, many years
and how she would talk to peopleand just the guilt-ridden
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consciences of people nowadays,and she just talked about how to
really how.
As women, we feel that guiltmore than men tend to um.
When men read verses in thebible like your sins are cast as
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far as the east is from thewest, they believe that and they
act on that and they don'tnecessarily have that burden of
guilt as much as females do.
Some men.
You know this isn't across theboard, you know, but when true
repentance is found, it's alittle bit easier for men to
think more logically about it asopposed to emotionally, and be
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able to reason through the factthat I have repented, Christ has
forgiven me through the factthat I have repented crisis
forgiven me, I can move on whereit's kind of.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's kind of like
that, you know, where a man says
he's fine and he's probablyfine and a woman says she's fine
and there's like a milliondifferent things, like bubbling
under the surface, and sothere's just like that, that
aspect of being morestraightforward versus reading
into things, and so, yeah, wecan read.
Oh, yeah, but sure he's donethat.
But you know also, right, I'vemessed up, right, and maybe he's
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really mad at me.
Even when he says he's not madat me and right, and obviously
we do, we tend to do that forsure.
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And then we, we have
the self-imposed guilt of.
You know just, it's one of thebig things I think, especially
when it comes to women andmothers especially is we compare
ourselves so much to otherpeople that we put this
self-imposed feeling ofinadequacy and guilt and you
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know well, I should be doingthis or I should be doing that,
and I could do, or look at howmuch better they are than me,
and and all that kind of stuff.
So there's a lot of aspects ofit.
For the sake of time we are notgoing to delve into all of it
today, but I just kind of wantedto mention that in the Bible we
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have kind of a good example oflike guilt, as opposed to true
repentance, in David when hesinned with Bathsheba.
At first he just tried to coverup his actions, like he knew
what he had done was wrong.
He was going to get in trouble.
So he tried to fix it right.
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He tried to have uriah comehome and like hide the fact that
bashi was pregnant with david.
And then, when that didn't work, he compounded his sin and
killed, had had Uriah killed,and really at that point he's
thinking, oh well, I fixed theproblem.
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Well, not really, because Godsends Nathan the prophet and
after Nathan says you know, thouart the man, and we don't know
how long it was in between thosetimes.
Obviously it was beforeBathsheba had the baby.
But either way, david didn'treally feel the conviction until
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he recognized his sin beforeGod, until Nathan pointed out
what he had done, how it was acause for the enemies of God to
speak against God and how hisactions had really affected God.
That was when we see a realheart change with David and he,
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after repentance, writes Psalm51, which many go to, as you
know, kind of the example of arepentant heart.
So just in that passage you cango through it on your own time
and look through it.
One of the things that helpswhen we are feeling that
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conviction of the Holy Spiritand we are trying to repent and
it's a difficult process it's toremember who God is and what he
has done for us already andthat he is good and that he will
forgive us and that he doeslove us and he does have our
best in mind.
So when you break down thatpassage and you look at who God
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is through that passage I'lljust read a few of the things.
In verse one, it tells us thathe's merciful and full of tender
mercies.
He's the only one that canclean our sins.
God is a righteous judge.
He's a righteous deliverer.
He's the God of our salvation.
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He will make us hear joy andgladness.
He won't leave us in despair.
These are just some things that, as I went through the Psalm, I
pulled out about who God is andhow he deals with us.
So when we're talking aboutrepenting and changing, it's
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very important to remember whoGod is in our life, cause we
think of men and displeasing menso often when we have gone
against God.
We think of how men react to uswhen we have gone against them.
Right and we also men I meanmankind, right, right but we.
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We also forget that
god knows everything and that
thing that we're holding backconfessing or repenting of, I
think sometimes there's likethis fear of actually bringing
it to the light when it alreadyis.
God already knows and thekindness that he's treating you
with now is the same kindnessthat he will show you going
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forward, because it's all laidbare before him, even the things
that you might not even admitto yourself or you can't even,
won't even put into words, maybelike heart, attitude, sins or
just like deeper sense thatmaybe no one else can see.
But you know, like there hasbeen no, like there has been no
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lightning from the sky, you'venot been struck down.
Right, that's not waiting foryou to like confess it, to
strike you down.
He's waiting so that you can berid of it for for your sake,
right and just like restorationbetween you and and you and yeah
, because most of the time whenwe're sinning, we're sinning
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against others as well.
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So you know, there's
always that element of fear of
the people's response.
Right, what you have to do,right, you have to just trust
god through that process.
You know and and know that inthe end it is the right thing to
do, because, more than likely,sooner or later it's going to
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come to light anyways.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, um, yeah, and
it's.
It's really just being honestand moving forward and knowing
that, knowing who your father islike.
There are so many people whodon't have good examples of
fathers and it can really maryour view of god.
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There's really no humancomparison to God and it's kind
of a trap in a way.
Even if you have a wonderfulfather, he's still nothing like
God.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Right, yeah, which is
interesting that you bring that
up, because that was one of thepoints that that lady had said
in the talk, because she had avery difficult relationship with
her father and she said youknow, god just wants to be our
loving father, and, and that'sso true, right.
So when we feel guilty, right,there's a few things that we can
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maybe ask ourselves to kind ofsolidify in our mind whether
this is actual conviction and Ineed to repent of something, or
if I'm just feeling guilty,right.
And one of these things is,like, when we do something, is
it, are you just embarrassed oryou fear what others may think
if they know this part of you orthat you've done this or
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something right Is, are you justfeeling fear and embarrassment
or is it that you actually knowthat this is because I have
sinned against God?
Yeah, so when we think about it, even though I may have done
like an action towards anotherperson, but really it's offended
God, and I don't see in thescripture where we can actually
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have true repentance withoutrecognizing how our sin,
whatever it is that we've done,is a sin against God and not
just others.
So even if you go to thatperson and like make it right.
If you don't recognize that, no, I have sinned against God and
I need to repent and ask God forforgiveness for this, it's
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still not going to be right.
You're still going to have that, that relationship strained
between you and God.
Right, god is going to keepbringing you back to that point
of no, you need to repent ofthis and then you need to just
ask yourself what God's wordsays about the topic.
Right?
So as moms, you know, we feellike I was saying the mom guilt
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of oh, I should be like thisperson, or I should do like this
or whatever, I should have theperfect clean house all the time
or something whatever like that.
Right, so there's that aspectof just, I feel inadequate or
not enough.
Okay, but then there's anotherside of it of well, I know that
I was super lazy today.
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I wasted a lot of time.
I know that the Bible talksabout being lazy in many places
in the Proverbs and it talksabout redeeming the time.
So this isn't about mecomparing myself to someone else
.
This is about me not addressingsin issues in my life that I
need to get right, and there's abig difference.
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I think that because
there has been that um just the
whole mom guilt thing Okay, andwe've kind of shunned it and I
think in a way has been that, um, just the whole mom guilt thing
Okay, and we've kind of shunnedit and I think, in a way, that
that's good, because sometimesthat mom guilt is very unhealthy
and not helpful and really issomething we shouldn't hold on
to.
However, because we've likeshunned it so radically, we've
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not taken some hard looks likeyou were saying, yeah, not taken
some hard.
Looks like you were saying,yeah, I shouldn't sit and
compare my house, my house toyour house, or my situation to
your situation, or my house to amagazine or whatever.
That that would be like the badmom guilt.
But am I redeeming my time?
That's a question that'sbetween me and God really, and
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if I'm not willing to addressthat, that's not mom guilt.
That is conviction like good,healthy conviction of are you
using what you've been given tothe best of your ability?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Right, you take any
issue and and that's how you
would address it, right, youknow if you're, if you're, quick
tempered, you know, oh, I feelbad because I lost it and yelled
at my kids, okay, but that'snot the heart of the issue.
The heart of the issue is thatthe Bible says be angry and sin,
not right.
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So you're sinning against God.
When you are angry, it's notbecause you blew up at your kid,
as in the offenses against yourkid, right?
He's suffering the consequenceof your sin.
At that point, and I thinkthat's kind of where our mind
shift needs to take place, wethink often about how we sin
against others, but we don'tthink often about how we sin
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against God.
So there's a verse it's 2Corinthians 7, 9, and it says
Now rejoice, not that you weremade sorry, but that ye sorrowed
to repentance, for godly sorrowworketh repentance to salvation
, not to be repented of, but thesorrow of the world worketh
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death.
So it shows us right there thatthere's two different sorrows
or two different feelings of.
We could say one would be likeguilt and the other would be
like conviction.
Godly sorrow would be like trueconviction, the sorrow of the
world worketh death, just tokeep that in mind.
Like that false conviction,that guilt, that sorrow of the
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world, it's deadly to our souls.
It drags us down.
It doesn't bring true change,it just binds us.
And that's what Satan wantsfrom us.
He wants us to feel inadequate,he wants us to feel like we are
failures in every way, shapeand form and that we can't do
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anything right.
And then he wants us to neverrepent of the true issues.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
That's and that right
.
There is the key.
If the difference betweenconviction and guilt is,
conviction encourages you tochange and guilt is a weight
that holds you down and doesn'tinspire change.
It only inspires like downwardspiraling Right.
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And so you know, if you listento that voice, is it, is it
accusing you or is itencouraging you Because you
think, okay, convictions.
There's nothing positive aboutconviction.
But, truthfully, if it's theHoly Spirit speaking to you,
it's not going to be this angry,accusatory voice it's going to
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be.
This is not who you were madeto be.
This is not pleasing God.
There's something better foryou.
There is hope you can change.
You know there's.
It's.
It really is positive.
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Right, you're
listening, right, if you're
actually listening Right, evenwhen, when I think of when
Nathan did come to David andsaid you know, thou art the man.
It was this.
These are the consequences nowof your actions, which were
definitely heavy in there, butthere was still that element of
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god will forgive you and stillin good, can still be in good
standing with god where, asopposed to, like I think of saul
, when saul disobeyed and samueland that whole thing Saul was
not repentant and he hadeverything taken away from him.
He had his kingdom.
He said your kingdom is goingto be torn away from you at this
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point.
So we do see that when there isthat true repentance and change
and conviction, god alwayswants to bring us to a point of
restoration.
He always wants us to havefellowship with him and no
matter the consequences here onearth, how hard those, what
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might be, he still desires tohave restoration and to move
forward.
So it's just we have toremember that about.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
God.
There's so many verses thattalk about like I'll keep him in
perfect peace.
His mind has stayed on mebecause he trusted in me for one
example.
And the name of the Lord is ahigh tower.
The righteous run into it andare safe, saved.
I'm quoting this off memory soI might have a word or two
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flip-flopped.
But the idea of knowing god,knowing the name of the lord, is
trusting him.
It's how we have victory andsafety and peace is really
understanding who our God isAbsolutely.
And when we know and love him,our sin will become the things
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that hurt God.
We've heard this the thingsthat hurt God will hurt us, or
that the things that are ugly toGod will become ugly to us.
And then we have that alsoknowing him, we know that he's
kind and he's merciful and he'squick to forgive and he does
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cast things from the East oursin from the East, as far as
East is from the West.
We know that because we knowour God.
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Absolutely, and just
as we close this out, I just
want to highly recommend thatyou read through Psalm 51 and
pick out what it says about Godthrough that chapter.
Just write it down for yourselfand see who our God is in
relation to us.
When we have fallen and when wehave failed he is still all of
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those things.
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