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November 18, 2024 40 mins

 In this episode we’re back in New York in the 1980s and looking at a controversial figure who’s little-known today: Bernie Goetz. Goetz, who shot four teenagers on the New York subway, has been variously portrayed as a racist villain, a victim, and a hero.

 We’re very lucky to be joined in this episode by a guest who was almost as close to the case as you can get. He’s civil rights and criminal defence lawyer Ron Kuby, who represented the family of Darrell Cabey, one of the victims, in a civil lawsuit against Goetz. 


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