0108 Sir Gene Speaks with Dude named Ni**arificEnergy

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Gene (00:00):
this is Sturgeen, and today I've got a special guest,
and, um, because of the way yourname is spelled, I'm gonna ask
you to say your name.

NiggarificEnergy (00:10):
I am niggerific energy.
Um,

Gene (00:15):
chill.
Niggerific Energy is the name ofthis person, or at least the
Twitter name, right?
Or the X name.
Um, I don't know if you go bythat in any other forums or
whatnot, but certainly that'show I, I met up with you or, um,
saw you and liked some of thestuff you were posting.
I think you liked some of thestuff I was posting.
And then I said, Hey man, weshould chat.

yeah, it's it's funny.
I'm, I'm trying to go by that,but I have three kids, actually
one on the way.
So, we'll see, we'll see if Ican get, get away with it, but I
doubt

Gene (00:45):
Huh.
See how long you can go beforesomebody says, wait a minute.

Yeah, I don't know.

Gene (00:53):
You know what they say though, if you wanna change the
negative stereotypes or whateverassociated with it, it's just
All it is is a manner to startusing it, that's all.

Right, for sure.
Flipping on its head.
The same way that, that Blacksstarted flipping nigga on its
head.
I, I honestly it's about theintent to me, honestly.
All of my white friends say it.
Um, and every time I talk toBlack people about that, the
only people who actually have aproblem with it are the women.

(01:22):
Um, like my black guy friendsall have white friends that they
all allow say it.
So it's it's definitely likeracism I think is solved in the,
the back alleys and then thestreets and, and, and the
alleyways of America, but itjust isn't like from a national
perspective because it'sconvenient for some people, you

(01:45):
know,

Gene (01:46):
Well, it's useful, I would say.

Oh, for sure,

Gene (01:50):
Yeah.
It's the people that keepinsisting that everybody else is
racist are actually the onesthat are racist.

Yep.
For sure.
For sure.
They,

Gene (02:00):
tell that very easily by their behavior.
And the way that they constantlyare seeing race and color and
background and ethnicity, wherenone of the rest of us see it.
Yeah.

think that there are like a small subset of
people, and I grew up in thisbecause I grew up in New Jersey,
um, in the inner city, so thereare a certain subset of, of
blacks who still believe thenarrative that, that people are
just out to get them, like Ihave family members who will not
talk to me because, and, and Imean, I was talking to them, put

(02:41):
them in like a, a group to teachthem Bitcoin, And like I'm
retired at 33.
So I'm trying to teach you howto like, be better and stuff.
So, and then like immediatelyfound out that I was going to
vote for Trump and cut me offimmediately.
You cut off your chance at earlyretirement because you're so mad

(03:02):
at Trump because the media toldyou to, it's like, it's a

Gene (03:08):
no reason.

Yeah, for sure.
It's it's a brainwashing

Gene (03:12):
And given the guy's been basically a Democrat.
For most of his life,

I know that's the thing.

Gene (03:18):
ran a Republican out of convenience because the
Republicans let him and theDemocrats were up in arms in no
way.

absolutely.
Yeah.
Like

Gene (03:26):
didn't care.
He would be fine running as anindependent.

That's some of the tweets and some of the
messaging that I've heard fromyou that I definitely agree with
on Vivek, like he's just likefar more conservative than
Donald Trump is, and likeDonald, people forget that like
Donald Trump, he basicallyinsulted his way into the
presidency and then tried to cutdeals with all the people who

(03:50):
just cut him out.
So like it just like your peopleare trying to vote for this
person who.
First off, there's a narrativearound Vivek where like you
can't trust him because hesounds like Obama.
Or you can't trust anybody whosounds like anybody who's smart
or whatever.
But it's like Um, but peoplejust don't look at like Donald

(04:14):
Trump came into office talkingabout, he's going to cut deals
with all these people.
And then eventually they justgot him out of office.
Like he wanted to drain theswamp and the swamp drained him.
So it just, um,

Gene (04:27):
I think Trump greatly underestimated.
The, um, the skill, I'm going togive him credit of politicians
to lie, cheat and steal.

For sure.

Gene (04:43):
used to business people doing that, certainly around New
York.
You're, you're neck of the woodsthere in Jersey.
Um, but you know, so he, he kindof knows some of what the game
is like, but politics is a wholenother level of lie, cheat and
steal.
And I think Trump assumed thathe was very good at dealing with

(05:05):
people like that from hisbusiness dealings and certainly
because of where most of thosewere, where he started.
Um, where he made a lot ofmoney, but Washington DC isn't
the swamp figuratively, it's theswamp literally.
And those folks that have beenthere for many years, they know

(05:25):
what they're doing.

Yeah, for sure.
And they, they, they also haveno shame so like a business from
a business perspective, if youstart messing up in business,
I'm not sure if I'm allowed tocurse on this podcast or not.
I'm sorry if I

Gene (05:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

But yeah, if a business starts fucking up the
market will make it pay.
So there's no shame inpoliticians because they're so
The amount of people who can,um, come into politics and say
that they're on your team is alot easier to get to.
Then the amount of people whoare leaving your party.

(06:04):
So it's they don't care aboutbeing true to anybody in their
party at all, because morepeople are coming in, especially
on a Democrat party, cause it'seasier to make them than it is
to make conservative people.
Um, but yeah, there's just likedroves and droves of people to
come in.
So like anybody who has anargument or anything, that's a
problem with the.

(06:25):
The left or the right.
They have like ways to justsquash out those particular
pieces.
And that's just sort of wherethe libertarian slash
Progressive people are.
And that's like where I, that'swhere I was before.
Like I grew up traditionalDemocrat and then I got so
pissed off at them, not doinganything that I just became

(06:49):
progressive.
And then I realized that there'skind of like two sides of the
same coin.
I went through sort of the sameawakening that a Jimmy door is
going through now.
So it's it's kind of funny thatlike people who are mad at the
government, the establishmentversus non establishment are.
are a lot closer than what themiddle people in the middle tend

(07:13):
to be are.

Gene (07:14):
It's, and this is, so I I've been I'd say.
Libertarian minded pretty muchsince high school.
And, cause that's when I firststarted reading Anne Rand books,
was in high school and realizedthat, holy shit, this, this
totally aligns with what Ibelieve.
And this, this is where I thinkthe libertarian quadrants, I'm
sure you've seen the diamondbefore, that kind of, you answer

(07:36):
a bunch of questions, kind oftells you where you fit on the
diamond.
Is a lot more accurate than theleft right, which is typically
what's used in the media is likeeverything either belongs on the
left side where you got theprogressives, the liberals,
democrats, socialists.
Or the right where you haveNazis.
And that's kind of the, it's allthey do is they just separate

(07:57):
into those two groups.
And depending on how you talkto, obviously they're going to
make one side sound worse orbetter, but with the libertarian
diamond, um, when you answerthose questions, you can see
that.
You can have an authoritarianright wing person and you can
have an authoritarian left wingperson.

(08:18):
You can have a libertarian, veryopen minded right wing person.
You can have a libertarian, veryopen minded left wing person.
So adding that extra dimensionreally tells you a lot more
about the person taking the testor the candidate that you're
looking at.
Because there's, you know, youcan have arguments about what's
better left or right.

(08:39):
But I think when it comes toauthoritarianism, it's pretty
hard to make the case thatthat's somehow better.

I know.
I agree.
And I think that likeconflating, it's really easy to
conflate those things becauseit's harder to get people to
think in fours than it is to getthem to think in twos.
And it's just um, and you cansee it in the left.
Rhetoric so far.
It's like good versus evil.
I think the right does this alittle bit too, but I think to a

(09:08):
different degree But the left ismore like good versus evil This
guy is like literally the devilor voldemort or whatever.
They're far better at messagingto their people

Gene (09:21):
Mm hmm.

um who is good versus who is bad and putting up
figure heads in order to try toEither put up a dichotomy
between the two or conflate thetwo, you know, so I think that
it's the from from the left'sperspective.
They are, they're far better atgalvanizing their people and

(09:42):
giving them something to fightagainst.

Gene (09:46):
Well, and, and to be fair, it's easier for them to do that
because their people tend to notbe as intellectually developed.
I'm not gonna say they're stupidthere.
They could very well potentiallybecome intelligent, but there's
certainly people that haven'tspent a great deal of time
investigating reality and arejust willing to repeat what's on

(10:09):
CNN.

Right.
Yeah, they're perfectly willing,as you said, to just allow
people to think for them.
I, I know quite a few people whotheir Facebook posts will say,
um, Oh, I, I, I can't wait tosee what the news says about
this.
I don't want to think, you know,like it's, it's so weird to me

(10:32):
as a person who constantlythinks about every little thing
that like, um, people could justallow that to happen.
But like Kierkegaard said, likeanxiety is the dizziness of
freedom.
I think that was Kierkegaard,but yeah, the anxiety is the
dizziness of freedom.
So these people just don't wantto think because it actually, it

(10:54):
almost paralyzes them.
That, that freedom, the amountof choices paralyzes them into a
stillness that they can'tcomprehend.
And I think that that's wherethe anxiety comes from.
And people are softer in naturenow in terms of being American.
So it just, um, freedom

Gene (11:13):
they, they much prefer living in a Kafkaesque scenario,
I think.

Yeah.
Please, please decide everythingfor me.
And that I think is, as alibertarian, I think it's
something that we have to, tosolve.
Right now, we basically justhave to hope that we can push
the Overton window fromconservatives where we want them
to be, um, sort of fighting fromwithin.
And I think that that's wherewe'll have the most power as of

(11:40):
right now, but we'll, we'll seewhat happens.

Gene (11:44):
Yeah.
I mean, right now I'd say thechange that we're seeing
happening.
In more people getting redpilled, more people realizing
just how crazy and nutty some ofthe ideas of, in fact, most of
the ideas of the left actuallyare, I attribute that a lot less
to the conservatives actuallysucceeding and a lot more to the

(12:05):
liberals going so far overboardthat they're leaving more and
more people behind that aregoing, wait a minute.
I thought, I thought we wereagainst this.
Now we're for this.
We're the war party.
Mm hmm.

yeah, I, I totally agree with you.
Even my journey to, from all theway to the left, to where I am
now, more libertarian leaning,going all the way right.
And then coming back to where Iam now, it's It had mostly to do
with my business aspect and whatI was learning about business.

(12:40):
It had almost nothing to do withconservatives convincing me that
their ideology was better.
You know, it just was convenientbecause all the people who I
looked up to happened to be, youknow, conservative minded.
So it's just and they wereconservative with their wallets
as well.
So it just like sort of happenedby.

(13:00):
Osmosis, but it's not like they,they didn't, they never reached
across and got me.
And I think that that's a bigmessaging problem because they
definitely reach across and getto the youth for sure.

Gene (13:14):
Mm hmm.

I know so many conservative, older conservative
people who raised liberalchildren.
So it's you're, you're not evenlike putting, pushing together
your own ideology for Towards abetter, you know, it's, it's
tough.

Gene (13:31):
Well, as much as a lot of people on the right, love to rag
on Ben Shapiro because, youknow, he's um, he's a war hawk
and he's too much pro Israel.
And that idea, you know, ideasdon't care about your feelings
unless it has to do with Israel.
There, there's a lot of negativestuff floating around them, but

(13:51):
I will say this.
Or the years that the guy wasdoing his college campus tours.
He did more to open up the eyesof students than just about
anybody who's actually makingmoney from conservatism because
he was challenging the ideasthat the students were taught.
And even if one out of a hundredof the people that saw him

(14:12):
started thinking a little moreis well, wait a minute.
Yeah, I thought that I thoughtthe Democrats were against war.
How come we're the party of warnow?
Even if one of those startedthinking about it, well, that's
one more person than would haveotherwise because most of the
conservative messaging.
They don't even botheraddressing the youth.
They're just giving up on, onyoung people and just said,
yeah, well, they're allliberals.

(14:33):
What do we do?
Nothing.

No, I, I totally agree.
And that's, that's where I focusall of my money.
I don't even watch Ben Shapiroshow, but I do have a
subscription at daily wire, eventhough I don't use it.
Um, like it.
People who, like Scott Pressler,I give money to Scott Pressler,
I give money to, um, TurningPoint USA because they are out

(14:57):
there trying to reach the youthand I can see the ripple effects
happening in, in rap music, Ican see the ripple effects
happening in small blackcommunities across America.
I

Gene (15:09):
By the way, Ben Shapiro, number one rap artist in the
country.

that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
You know, the song, honestly, inmy heart of hearts, I can't say
that it's a good rap song.

Gene (15:22):
It's crap, man.
I bought three copies of it justJust to support him, but it's
total crap.

My man.
I know.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I do the same thing, and Iheard that you also support, um,
Tim cast all their songs aswell.
I do the same thing.
I don't listen to that kind ofmusic at all.
I've never listened to any ofthe songs, but I buy them
because it supports the cause ofwhat I want to build.

(15:50):
Like I have to you have to builda parallel economy because if
you don't They're, they alreadyhave an economy and a machine
behind them that keeps pushingout money.
And that's why, like, why, whyis there so much money getting
people to buy off like theseinfluencers and buy off
politicians and stuff?
How did, how did they get allthat money?

(16:11):
Oh, well, they got it fromhaving machines on the back end
that's just pouring in cash tothe DNC.
I mean, it's just, it's unreal.
But yeah, it's That the RNC isnot fighting for that at all.

Gene (16:25):
got somebody running the RNC right now.
Rona, I forget her last

Oh,

Gene (16:31):
It's

McDaniels or whatever.

Gene (16:33):
you couldn't, you couldn't ask for someone who has been
better to the Democrats than herfor the last four years.
She's just completely made everydecision against actually what
conservatives want.

She, she might go down as next to Nancy Pelosi
as the best Democrat ever in thehistory.
I mean, no one.
Further the democratic messagethan than her like better than
she did like she had no fightagainst any of the nonsense
there.
They're cutting children'sgenitals off.

(17:09):
We can't fight against that.
Are you kidding me?
You can't mount a defenseagainst that.

Gene (17:14):
Yeah.
There used to be a big outcry.
I remember, you know, even justlike 10 years ago against the
practice of girls gettingcircumcised, you know, their
clits getting cut off.
In Muslim and African countriesbecause it's tradition, right?
It's, it's historically what wasdone.
They're still practicing it.
A lot of people.
And then the Americans were alloutraged.

(17:35):
And it's again, the sameliberals were outraged about it.
Soon as it starts happeninghere.
Oh, no, no, no.
You got to.
The choice of the child,regardless of what anybody else
says.
So if the child wants tomutilate themselves, have their
genitalia chopped off, well, yougot to respect that because you
know, the child knows what'sbest for them.
They don't know what cereal toeat in the morning, but they

(17:55):
know what's best for their sexand their future.

yeah, that's a, that's a great point.
That's wow.
Very powerful,

Gene (18:03):
It it's crazy.
It, and then the fact thatpeople are willing to accept it
again, it's almost like we'rewatching 1984 being performed in
real time, because, you know,that was the.
What the expectation of theparty was in that book that when
facts about the past change,people just adapt to it and

(18:24):
pretend that that's the way it'salways been.
And that seems to be what thethe left side has been doing is
a hell, even the right side,they're going along with it.
Is there just pretending thatthings that are right now, norm
have always been, it's no.
No, that's definitely not thecase.
And I remember always when Iheard this, this kind of

(18:47):
argument that, well, you know,Democrats always supported the
minorities.
So it was really the Republicansthat were in the South and
really the Democrats were theparty of Lincoln.
And then the parties just kindof changed names.
And I just thought, what a bunchof bullshit.
Now I'm starting to think, well,if the Democrats are the pro war
pro large corporation party.

(19:09):
Well, shit, it's happened righthere in the last five years.
Maybe it's happened before aswell, where the name stayed,

Right.

Gene (19:19):
actual practices completely flip flopped around.
And I'm not, you know,justifying saying, well, it
wasn't the Republicans that theLincoln was part of, but you do
kind of wonder, it's like, howoften can people just stick to a
name Republican or Democratwithout really giving a shit.
About what the tenants of thatname today are, because they're

(19:42):
very different than what theywere.
You look at the Republican side,similar thing.
Right now, you know, I, havingmarriage for gay people is part
of the standard sort of acceptedRepublican party platforms
there.
I don't think there's any Statesright now where the Republican
platform includes that marriageis only between a man and a

(20:05):
woman, maybe Utah, that might bethe only state, but you look
back 10 years ago and that was amajor change that happened now.
I have never cared because I'vealways been libertarian.
I'm like, frankly, governmentought to stay out of marriage.
It's none of the government'sbusiness, whether you're married
or not, or how many wives orhusbands you have.

Yes, sir.

Gene (20:27):
But it's, it's like change is happening.
But yet people keep sticking tothe old familiar label.
Is it a D or is it an R?

So I, have you ever read the book tribe?

Gene (20:42):
No, I

Okay.
So there's a book, it's calledtribe and it basically talks
about how.
Human beings, they, theybasically need to be in a tight
knit, small group.
When they get into largergroups, that's when chaos starts
unfurl.
But the, the problem that wehave now is that if, if people

(21:04):
step outside of the norm, theyget beat.
Almost to hell.
So and they know that so theywould rather feel like they're a
part of the inside, even if theyhave to deal with or listen to
or agree with nonsense, asopposed to being othered.
And that's what really peoplehuman beings have a longing for

(21:25):
togetherness.
And that's like really tough to,um, To break through, especially
on the Democrat side,conservatives, they will spite
each other for anger.
I mean, they'll spite each otherfor pride, but more often than
not, they'll just simply spite aperson if they don't believe in
them, if they just like.

(21:46):
Like I've seen so many timeslike I've looked at, I try to
look at everybody's individualargument on their merits,
despite the fact that I have myown opinion.
Um, so like when I looked at allthe people who went against Jim
Jordan, it was mostly becauseJim Jordan's for speaker, it was
mostly because they just didn'tlike that he was being put up.

(22:12):
It, they, it could have beenanybody that they put up in that
thing, but like they wanted tospike Matt gates so much that
they didn't, it didn't matter tothem who.
Who they put up, they didn'tactually have a person to put
up.
So it just who knows at thatpoint, they just were so piss
finnick or angry.
And you don't see Democratsdoing that, at least from the

(22:36):
outside.
They'll have those argumentsinward, but then once the clear
winner wins, it's everybodyfalls in

Gene (22:44):
I think they tend to do more deals because you remember
back when AOC was going to notsupport Nancy Pelosi and then a
week goes by, they have someclosed door meetings.
Next thing you know, AOC isendorsing Pelosi for speaker.

Yeah, that made that made what is his name?
Jim, what the heck is that guy?
Somebody freak out.
But, um, Jimmy door that's

Gene (23:12):
Dore.
Yeah.

Yeah.
Yeah.
That started to crack him andtake him more conservative
because he got so tired ofprogressives just getting the,
the washed in, you know, it'sreally bad that they will just
continue to sell out forpartisan reasons.
And even if you have a young and

Gene (23:31):
Cause he was a Bernie bro.
Right.

Yes, he was.

Gene (23:34):
Mm hmm.

I, I will admit I was a Bernie bro 2016 as
well.
And when he, my first crack waswhen he sold out despite being
cheated.
Like he was obviously cheated.
Hillary Clinton got to chooseher own electorates.
Are you kidding me?
And then that's when I was like,Oh man, the democratic process,

(23:55):
this is undemocratic as hell.
I can't support this at all.
And so like when he sold

Gene (24:01):
cheated.
I just think they bought himout.

So they could have bought him out.
I hear

Gene (24:06):
he got paid for it.

he bought, he bought a bunch of mansions and a
couple of other things, I dothink that some money was
definitely exchanged for that,but the fact that Hillary
Clinton got to handpick herdelegates who then handpicked
her, and that's how the processalways worked and Debbie
Washerman Schultz got tobasically run the DNC as Hillary

(24:31):
Clinton's best friend.
Are you kidding me?

Gene (24:33):
Exactly.
As somebody who worked for hercampaign, now she's going to run
the DNC.
Yeah.

oh yeah, so like when when that all fell
through, I was like, there's noway I could support this

Gene (24:45):
And, and I will say that Hillary is definitely not
progressive.
If you actually look at herpolitics over the years, she was
Very much like a, she's she wasalways a war hawk Democrat, you
know, she was always anopposition to a lot of these

(25:06):
peace and flower kind ofliberals language.
Um, I think predominantly, thisis my, my personal pet theory is
I think the only reason thatHillary had become a Democrat
and decided that bill would be agood.
Husband to raise her politicalstakes with way back when was

(25:26):
because she got, um, snubbed orsomething happened when she was
volunteering for the Nixoncampaign, because, you know, she
was a Republican when she was

Right,

Gene (25:38):
And I think there must've been something happened that
just emotionally made her say,well, fuck all of y'all, I'm
going to make sure you never getelected.
And then that was a pivot in heryouth.
Which made her go the otherdirection because if you
actually look at Things shesupported with the exception of,

(25:58):
you know, gun control and thethings that are just more sort
of women related than they areconservative or liberal.
A lot of her stances go inopposition to the traditional
democratic stances and

agree.
I'm looking up this now, but um,I'm pretty sure her, I'm not
sure if this has been cleared ornot, but I think that her firm
or something was, Connected toWatergate, so, um, I think that
that's where her original burnwith the Democratic Party was

(26:34):
and then she just sort of unfurlfrom there.
But I, I absolutely agree withyou.
Like, when she and I, I wasactually talking about this with
my wife.
Like a week ago when HillaryClinton ran, she basically ran a
Southern strategy.
Like she didn't run like aDemocrat at all.
She skipped all of the Northernstates.
Cause she thought that shebasically had them locked up and

(26:55):
then she ran the Southern belt,like she was a Reagan.
Republican.

Gene (27:00):
accent changed.

Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It was it was really interestingto watch.
It was, um, but I, I think thatbecause people want to be so
ideologically with their groupand they forget the long term
strategies.
I know this because like mymom's a long term Democrat and
I'm constantly sharing thingswith her.

(27:24):
Six months ago she was tellingme that she was really scared
and she's glad that Biden was inoffice because if Trump was in
office.
There would be World War III.
And I said, Okay.
So you thought that the personwho started no new wars and
ended three or four of them wasgoing to start World War III.

(27:47):
Okay, Mom.
Gotcha.
And then, so Biden starts thisnew conflict.
And so I said, Hey, the world'sgetting pretty interesting.
So, What did you think aboutwhat you said then?
And she said, I said nothinglike that.
I said, Well, okay.
It's just Deny and deflect andthat's just sort of the motto
and, and memento of their, theirgroup because there's no shame

(28:12):
in, in their ideology anymore.
There's no,

Gene (28:15):
they have a group identity.
Like the core identity of theperson is really Tied to the
group.
This is why I think the if youlook at the whole LGBT alphabet
soup.
You know, I, I remember when Iwas going to college, that was
really kind of my first, um,experience of seeing organized

(28:38):
homosexual groups.
Right.
So, I mean, I think I, I had acouple of friends that clearly
were a little effeminate, butyou never know when you were in
school, when you're a kid thatlike, are they just effeminate
or are they actually gay?
And as it turned out, one of mygood friends that we all kind
of.
I thought it was a little toofeminine in high school, in
college came out as being gay,but you know, when you're in

(29:02):
college, like that's, there'salways these groups.
It's a lot more out in the open.
And I remember back then it wasliterally just three letters and
they were in a different order.
I don't know how the hell thelesbians got to the front
because back in the earlynineties, it was GLB.
That was the campus group, whichwas gays, lesbians, and

(29:23):
bisexuals.
That was it.

Yeah

Gene (29:26):
and then somehow from the nineties to the two thousands,
the, the lesbians pushed overthe the gays to the front of the
line because they're pushy.
And and then started adding allthese other letters afterwards.
And, and I think it all goesback to this idea that they feel
a lot safer in groups becausethey have a group identity.

(29:50):
The individual identity doesn'tmatter.

I totally agree.
I have a very unscientific,that's really interesting, I
have a very unscientific view,and let me just know what you
think about this, the letters,the letter switching.
Lesbians are mostly comprised ofwhite women.

Gene (30:07):
Oh, yeah.

You know how they are.

Gene (30:11):
Mm hmm.

I mean, geez of course, lesbians had to be
put first, because they'remostly comprised of white women
who have no struggle in theworld, other than the ones that
they create.
So of course they had to gofirst.
So yeah, that's my theory.
That's why that's the theory.

Gene (30:30):
They're they're the The level of, well, and I would say
not so much white women asAmerican white women, because
you go to, you go to Europe andyou have a very feminine type of
white woman there, you know, theAmerican women are, I don't know
what it is, if it's just acultural thing or the previous

(30:51):
generation, the way they werebeing brought up or whatever, or
frankly, I blame Disney for alot of it with coming out with
two goddamn movies that havethem being rescued by a Prince.
It's no bitch.
There ain't no Prince is goingto rescue your ass.
Cause it's, you're not worth it.

Right.
So the value set.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so all

Gene (31:11):
this entitlement mentality.
I don't know.
I don't know if you ever watchedthe show.
I, I rarely do, but occasionallyI'll catch a clip from this
show.
The, um, I'm trying to think ofwhat they're called, but it's
basically this one guy hosts ashow where he brings in.
A bunch of girls who all thinkthey're 10s.

The whatever podcast.

Gene (31:28):
yeah, whatever, exactly.
And it's you don't need to watcha whole episode cause the clips
is all you need to watch of thatshow.
But it is just truly amazing howso many women.
That objectively are likethrees, fours, and fives all
think they're tens.

Yeah.
So I, I think that they are, we,as a culture, and I see this on
the playgrounds and I, I taughttennis for a decade and a half.
So I've, I've taught the,

Gene (32:02):
Tennis, how dare you go against stereotypes?

I know I've, I've, I've been a contrarian my
entire

Gene (32:09):
Huh.

so, um,

Gene (32:12):
Well, you didn't vote for Joe Biden, so you're not black.
We know that.

Yeah, my skin color changed for a very strange
reason, you

Gene (32:19):
Uh huh.

um, I tan really quickly.
So he was always going to losethat battle.
Um, so I, I've taught all typesof all types of kids and I, I
raised my kids to be like, Very,very tough because I saw all of
the kids who are very, veryweak, who are raised by parents

(32:40):
who are constantly explainingthings to them, asking them
questions and treating them likethey're a prince or princess and
all this other stuff.
And so, I saw like immediatelygiving kids like, like the.
Basically, the reigns of thehouse and the reigns of what's

(33:01):
going on in the family.
It was a disaster because assoon as they got to my court,
they all thought that they couldall do the same thing.
And there are kids who are notlike, I grew up in the inner
city in a very, very violentarea.
So we all knew from a peckingorder by just looking at each
other, Oh.
We could beat that person up orI should sit down because I'm

(33:22):
not going to say anything.
Cause I'm going to get my asswhooped.
So like these kids don't getthat.
They're just like, I'm

Gene (33:29):
then you get your ass whooped one more time when you
get home for being in a fight.

Oh, 100%.
Yeah.
If I, if I'm in the fight, mymom's whooping my ass on the way
home to get your cat.
You're 100 percent right.
You're catching two L's.
You're catching two L's forsure.
So you were, you're very tactfulwith how, who you

Gene (33:47):
Mm hmm.

but these kids these days, like they'll,
they'll go out and fightanybody, you know, get into
brawls or arguments and stuffon, on my court or, or anything
disrupting anybody's physicalsports or whatever.
Because they just all believethat they're the most important
thing.
I had a girl trying, trying to,she took private lessons with
me, 80 an hour.

(34:09):
And she's trying to morph meinto telling her that she's
doing a good job.
Not oh, you did better than youdid before.
No, she wanted me to tell herthat her job was good enough to
go out and beat somebody else.
And I'm like, honey.
I can't tell you that.
I guess it's like you need toget away from me.

(34:32):
So I would just kick those kidsoff my court.
But yeah, everybody has thisself entitlement.
And I think

Gene (34:38):
Oh, it's crazy.

Jordan Peterson says that it's because
people are having less kids.
So they're taking fewer riskswith them.
And so every kid is the prince,like we're saying, you know, so
it's um, it's a real, it's areal nightmare.
It's a real, real nightmare.
My kids are special, like mythree year old can multiply, and

(35:01):
so can my two year old, they canmultiply, divide.
But I'm a stay at home dad,basically, and so is my wife.
So It's, it's different, but wealso are constantly pushing our
kids to do those things that aredifferent and we never, ever,
ever tell them or treat them asif they are.
We just simply reward them fortheir good behavior, you know,

(35:23):
it's not oh my gosh, my kidsdon't even, I don't even, I keep
Prince and princess fantasystuff away from them.
They don't watch disney oranything like that

Gene (35:33):
it's not good for a man Let's say creates the wrong
impression of reality

oh, it's so crazy.
Yeah When they're able tounderstand that this is a
fantasy world that nobody elsehas to live.
I know so many of So many peoplewho like push the Prince
princess thing on their kids.
And it's I'm watching the kidawkwardly look at me while

(35:58):
they're taking photos and 20people are around them and
they're like.
doting over this kid and thekid's just looking at me like so
awkward from across the room andI'm just like What the heck is
going on here?
It's like you're you're you'recreating monsters Oh,

Gene (36:15):
the problem has been going on for so long that we have
adults that act and think thesame way And like it to me, it's
just disturbing hearing grownadults Refer to you know each
other as king and queen.
I'm like you fucking nuts.
Neither one of you are anythingclose to that A couple of
losers.

I agree.
Yeah, like from from a worldlyand lively perspective Yeah, you
live a better life than kingsand queens live at some point in
the world, you know but becauseof technology but to say that
That's just to say that you'reallowed to have as much fun as a
king and queen.
And that's only looking at thefun.

(36:56):
That's not to say that you hadto take care of a kingdom or a
fiefdom.
That's not to say that you hadto make sure that people ate in
the wintertime.
How many people

Gene (37:06):
people are trying to assassinate you?

right?
Right, right, right.
Protecting, even

Gene (37:11):
kings and queens lived with that.

just stealing, stealing your stuff.
Stealing if I wanted to takeyour, take over your kingdom,
I'm going to go light some ofyour stuff on fire.
I'm going to go take and stealfrom your smaller end people so
that they die in the wintertime.
And over time, I'm just going toslowly take over your kingdom.
Thanks for you building that,but I'm just going to take that
over.
And so, I just think that,People don't look at it like

(37:36):
okay, this person had anenormous amount of
responsibility and that's theirthing.
Like I hear so many people say,um, they are king and they are
queen.
And then I look at their kidsand I'm like, okay, well your
kid's wearing really niceclothes.
Let me go ask your kid aquestion.
What's the, what's this color?

(37:56):
And they can't tell me anything.
Count to ten, they can't sayanything.
And I'm like, okay, wow.
So,

Gene (38:03):
Did you see that video?
It's probably a couple of monthsback of a 16 year old girl who
just got a brand new Tesla andshe is yelling at her mom.
For not giving her a Mercedes.

yes,

Gene (38:21):
Do you remember that video?
I mean, that's the epitome ofwhere we are in America right
now.
It's, it's a fucking 16 year oldwho got a car that they didn't
deserve.
Brand new car.
That's the, I mean, cheapestTesla, no matter how you slice
it, it's still like 40 grand.
And and she's bitching about thefact that her mom didn't buy her
brand new Mercedes,

Yeah, I, the kids don't stand a chance.

Gene (38:50):
not compared to the rest of the world.
And that's

yeah

Gene (38:54):
I

from a,

Gene (38:55):
you know, we we're, we're watching a major change
happening.
In the United States and not forthe better.
And I think what, what a lot ofpeople don't realize they can't
envision the possibility is thatthis is not a temporary

(39:16):
condition.
The, the growth.
That we're seeing of bricks andthe change off of the U.
S.
Dollar as the standard currencyof trades is only going to keep
moving in that direction.
And the the main way that theAmerican quality of life has

(39:36):
been propped up for the last 50years has been as a result of
the post World War Two actions.
Of creating a global reservecurrency in us dollars as that
liquidates and disappears asother countries no longer buy
American bonds to hold than sothose are quality of life.

(40:00):
And I think future generationsare going to start realizing
that the norm isn't livingbetter than your parents.
The norm is actually livingworse than your parents.
Mm hmm.

Yeah, I think that's what I was gonna say.
This is the first generationthat, Is doing worse than their
parents did.

Gene (40:18):
Mm

So like they, like we're the first ones who
had to go back and live with ourparents and.
Just to get a reset.
So like that, and I completelyagree with you that BRICS is a
really, really big problem forus.
I mean, several countries andOPEC have divested from U.

(40:39):
S.
dollars, U.
S.
assets.
China is divesting from U.
S.
assets.
They're closing

Gene (40:45):
Yeah, China used to be the second biggest holder of U.
S.
assets.
It's now the 13th.

Yep.
Yeah, there are a lot ofcompanies and countries are
divesting.
Yeah, I have to look at all ofthis stuff because I trade.
So

Gene (40:57):
Mm hmm.

constantly looking at the market from a
completely differentperspective.
I constantly talk about this allthe time with people.
I say, if people understoodmoney.
Then Democrats would literallyhave to shoot their way.
They would have to startkidnapping kids, people's kids
in order to get in the office.
There's we would have definitelymore conservative people that we

(41:20):
have now, but I can't say thatthe people who we have now would
survive, but on a conservativeside, but most certainly
Democrats would all be firedalmost overnight.
Like they are there.
The average person.
Could the barrier between theaverage person and the stock
market gains is literally thegovernment keeping them down.

(41:45):
It's like all regulations.
It's it's really bad.
They don't allow free marketcapitalism.
So they don't even allow peopleto choose how good companies
treat them.
So it's I mean, companies couldbe like, there were a bunch of
different, um, Advancements indrive through technology and so

(42:06):
on and so forth with COVID wouldhave probably already happened
if there weren't caps on themarket and barriers for entry
for other people to enter intothe market.
Like if, if there was morecompetition, there would be a
lot

Gene (42:20):
the first thing that happens when somebody is allowed
to control the not, not just themarket, but can control a
segment themselves is they formorganizations whose main
purpose, regardless of what theclaim is, It's to limit
competition and limit entry intothat market segment.
It's true of doctors.

(42:40):
It's true of lawyers.
It's true of an awful lot ofdifferent you know, companies
that, that have tradeassociations that sound like
they're there to just kind ofpromote the types of products,
but in reality.
They're there to limitcompetition by getting getting
more laws on the books from thegovernment that helps the

(43:03):
companies that already are atthe top, stay at the top.

Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
I think that like in, in myhonestly God, in my dream world,
because I understand.
Market forces and I understandsupply and demand.
I do think that there should bea gatekeeper on doctors.
There should be a gatekeeper oncertain professions because then
it would get sort of wonky andout of whack.

(43:27):
I don't want to have too manydoctors because then it sort of
perverts the profession.
But, um, I also don't,

Gene (43:36):
But what is

don't think that

Gene (43:37):
No, not, not, not, so this, this actually brings up a
good point.
Cause I have a pet peeve withdoctors.
Um, because I think we're goingto see certainly moving forward
that doctors are basically automechanics.
For the human body and they workin exactly the same way.

(43:57):
They look at references frombooks.
They, they read on studies that,that were being performed by the
universities out there andmedical centers.
And then their job is just to bethat gatekeeper that kind of
gets the latest info and thendecides if they want to provide
it to people that are coming tothem, that entire job can be

(44:19):
replaced by AI.
Literally in a matter of years,it's, it's basically already
there, except that the AI accessis limited to the medical
profession, so they can go aheadand utilize that AI for creating
diagnoses, but.
I think it's within the matterof a year or two, we're going to
see a huge decline in the numberof jobs available to doctors

(44:43):
because you are really don'tneed them because the AI is
going to be doing literally whatthey've been doing for a long
time which is looking at thebody of available knowledge for
treatments for variousconditions.
And then looking at theconditions the person has, and
then just doing a match.
Well, let's try that.
See if that works.
Cause you know, none of themwork under a guarantee.

(45:04):
They all work on the, let's trythis principle.

I totally agree with you, but that's scary
as hell to me because and I'm aswing trader So this is how I
think a little bit so like we doactually have the technology for
that now I mean we could besending in blood samples every
month to some entity or whateverthat somebody trusts but like
then it's You get informationback that's actually accurate

(45:30):
that you need, and probably isbetter for your health, and will
give you a better directive andguide, but like, how, how is
that different than Big Brother?
How is that different than likethe Skynet

Gene (45:41):
you that people with money are doing that right now.
Um,

with you?

Gene (45:48):
it's not, it's just not something that's available to
most people.
Like I did a, a full body.
Evaluation about 18 months ago.
So it consisted of a full bodycat scan and MRI a, um, um, uh,
what do you call it, the soundthingy.
What's that?

(46:09):
Yeah.
Ultrasound of, of like myheart's in motion video of that.
It's all stuff that's cool towatch.
And then a test, the screen for137 different types of cancers.
DNA analysis did, did all thatshit costs about six and a half
thousand dollars.
Obviously not covered byinsurance.
Um, and then a lot of peoplewill do that once a year and

(46:31):
that provides a snapshotproactively.
Like what you, you may findliterally nothing wrong.
You still paid the money, right?
When you do find something thatisn't causing you any physical
problems, but you find itproactively and you realize if I
don't treat this, I am going tohave physical problems, then all

(46:54):
of a sudden that, that cost ofthe yearly Seems very cheap.
If you've got to get surgery,it's going to be 50 to 150, 200,
000.
Um, and if you get surgeryproactively, it may only cost
30,

So I, I, again, I agree with you, but I
grew up on the left andeverybody has always told me
this type of rhetoric.
And if you listen to, I'm notaccusing you of this, but if you
listen to what Democrats say,they, when they talk about the
budget.
They always say, oh, we saved$1.2 trillion or$2 trillion over

(47:34):
the course of whatever.
Why?
Well, if you look into it, whenthey, what they say, is it,
climate change or whateverwould've cost us this amount of
money.
But for us doing this actionnow, and that would save us in
the future.
Which we all look at and arelike, you're bullshitting.

(47:56):
So it's so I, I understand whatyou're saying.
And I agree with you in aperfect world.
We should be doing those things.
And I do think that I think thatfrom, from our perspective.
Like we wanted to build thewall.
The wall would have cost, let'ssay between five and ten.
Billion dollars.

(48:17):
Democrats just spent, theythought it was too expensive,
but they just spent 20 billiondollars over the last two years
doing what the hell they'redoing, and now we have to go
deport them, and it's going tocost a lot more money, and then
on top of that go build a 5 to10 billion dollar wall.
So it's

Gene (48:35):
Which will cost more now, of course, because of inflation.

of course.
Of course.
Yeah, it's, it's so awesome.
Aren't they great?
Um, but yeah, it's, it's, Iagree that preventative
maintenance definitely, um, itcosts less, but I also agree
with that's what basicallypeople on college campuses are

(49:00):
saying that college should befree.
Like, why?
Well, because that's aninvestment in your future.
And

Gene (49:08):
that's empirically wrong because everybody's bitching who
went to college and can't get ajob that they just spent 75, 000
and they can't get a job.
So it's not really aninvestment.
It, it used to be when aminority of people went to
college, when the majority ofpeople go to college, it's no
longer an investment.
It's now just daycare for youngadults.

I also don't disagree with you there, but I
also don't think that, I thinkthat less people were bitching
during the Trump era than arebitching now.
I think that there are less goodjobs now and less jobs that,
that you need, that need thatdegree.
But I also think that we have toshift ourself as a culture, but
also still like the point of.

(49:50):
College should be free based offof preventative maintenance of
what we could do in the future.
Like it's an investment almost.

Gene (50:01):
Yeah.
Except most people shouldn't goto college.

I don't disagree with you there.
A hundred percent.
It we've, we have to shift as aculture for sure.
Only some jobs have to,

Gene (50:10):
and also technically college is free to anyone who
wants it to be free through theGI bill.

that's a tough one.
So technically that's

Gene (50:21):
choice.
If you don't want to have thosecollege loans, but you want to
go to college.
You, you take the point in yourlife when you're going to make
the least amount of money you'reever going to make, which is in
your twenties, and instead ofworking for that minimum wage
job you go into the, in themilitary

okay, but tell.

Gene (50:40):
for your college.

Tell them to go into the military now, that's
always going or, or moving intoD.
I.
that's moving into,

Gene (50:50):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's getting to a pointwhere they may not allow
straight white men in themilitary at all.

yeah, right,

Gene (51:00):
minority trait to even be allowed in the military before
too long.

yeah, so, and, and on before that it was like,
like the Iraq, like the, I, Igot depth into the Marines and,
um, I, I didn't go because Idid, I just didn't agree with
what, The president was doing,Bush was doing at the time, um,
like just bombing a bunch ofbrown people in countries that I
couldn't name and so I had to bein my high school year, 2008,

(51:32):
2009.
Yeah, 2008, 2009.
So yeah, I just didn't agreewith um, with that

Gene (51:41):
would have been Barack Obama

Obama.
You're right.
Yeah, but like he was was hedoing?
He was like drone striking abunch of, bunch of people.

Gene (51:53):
He loved drone strikes.
Yeah.

Yeah.
So like, how do you tellsomebody to go into that when
maybe their morals don't align,you know, I have tons of respect
for military people like theother night I was at the bar and
a very nice woman military.
She's in the Navy.

Gene (52:12):
Mm

I just bought her dinner.
She just every time I see aservice person, I try to do
something for them, but yeah,like, how do you tell a person?
And I, I asked her about that,and she's oh, man, I want to get
out every day.
I said, I feel for you, sis.
But, yeah, like, how do you tella person that if their morals
don't align, you know?

Gene (52:33):
Well, no, that's, that's a very good point.
And I don't think that everyoneshould go into the military.
I'm just saying that theargument that you have to go to
college A is false.
And that college will give you80 grand worth of debt, no
matter what is also false.
Like you, a don't have to go tocollege at all.
B if you want to go to college alot and you're not wanting to

(52:56):
have those debts, then you go inthe military.
And if you can't go in themilitary because of your morals,
well, that's a pretty goodargument that maybe you already
have all the knowledge you needand you've read the right books.
That you don't need to go tocollege.

Yeah, no, for sure.
I dropped out of college

Gene (53:15):
Yeah.

ended up retiring before all of those
people.
So I ended up five a

Gene (53:20):
the list of, of the most successful people in the history
of the United States is chockfull of people that dropped out
of college.

hundred percent, a hundred percent.
That's

Gene (53:31):
Steve jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, you, you name it.
Guys that are the mostsuccessful in the history of the
country, all dropped out ofcollege.

it's a different fire that you

Gene (53:42):
Even Zuckerberg.
Who's a schmutz, but he's, healso dropped out of college.

Snake.
What a snake.

Gene (53:49):
Huh.

But yeah, like it, it's tough.
I think that um, for doctors andstuff like that, like if you can
pass a certain amount or keepyour GPA.
I don't know if you saw this,but I think that Ohio is going
to start paying students, Idon't agree with this why, but
they're going to start payingstudents for good attendance.

(54:10):
I think they should start payingthem for good grades, not just
showing up, you know what Imean?
Maybe double the prices, butit's an incentive.
Yeah, I know.
But like, how did we get to apoint in our society where we're
paying students?
To go to school,

Gene (54:27):
Well, you used to, you, you would be in danger of
getting kicked out of publicschool if you had too many
truancies back in my day.

oh, yeah, that's a so it's such a strange
place.

Gene (54:40):
Yeah.
And again, all of these thingsthat we're discussing that are
happening right now, these areall areas that point towards a
major decline of the UnitedStates in its future.
Um, and that's why I thinkcertainly changing the, the
president to a conservative onewould be a good move.

(55:01):
It would help to Remove theacceleration that we're feeling
towards a big black hole, but Ialso don't think that it's going
to just automatically reversethe course of the country.
Too many things are already setin place that the United States,
its economy, its level oflifestyle, its ability to be the

(55:22):
world police.
All these things all are, in myopinion, they've already gone
past the point of no return.
These things have Alreadystarted to get into a permanent
future change and no amount ofchanging presidents is going to
change that course of action.

(55:42):
You know, when Saudi Arabia, whowas essentially funded by the
United States and all the oilfields were developed by the
United States and yes, someEuropean countries as well, but
really post world war twospending and agreements helped
that country become the largest.
Really a kingdom, right?

(56:06):
It's, it's a Imperial country.
It's they, they have a King.
They don't have a president.
Um, and even a country likethat, that has seen so much
benefits from the United States.
He's joining BRICS.
That tells you something.

yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I agree with you.
We're we are really, really bigtrouble as a nation.
If we don't come together prettysoon.
It's going to be rough.
And I don't think that.
Trump is the conservativepresident.
I think that he's a

Gene (56:37):
Mm hmm.

And I think that that's why I was really big
on the VEC because

Gene (56:42):
Oh, yeah.
Vivek is way better than Trump.
There's no two ways about it.

yeah, yeah,

Gene (56:47):
have Vivek as the next president, I mean, that would be
the biggest changer for theUnited States ever.
But you saw he only got 7percent in Iowa.

yeah.
That's it's

Gene (57:04):
to intelligent people.
He does not appeal to peoplethat get their news by watching
television.

doesn't even on our side.
Like I saw so many people on thelibertarian side use the same
exact tactics that they, thatthey hate from the left that are
like, Oh, well.
This person is just like astatus person and that's why
they're voting for them.
Just listen to what they'resaying.
Listen to what Trump is saying.
Okay, well then listen to whatVivek is saying.

(57:32):
You know, it's what are you,what are you talking about?

Gene (57:35):
again, anybody's better than Biden.
But although probably not GavinNewsom, he'd be worse, but you,
you listen to Trump and Trump isall about creating stories,
stories of talking about howgreat we are, how great America
is, how the future is going tobe wonderful.

(57:56):
He has zero actual plans.
There's not a goddamn thing hesaid he's actually going to do.
It's all.
Just saying things that make youfeel good.
And there's a place for that,right?
You can't be a politicianwithout having some of that, but
you listen to Vivek in contrastand Vivek's got actual solutions
to things, get rid of the FBI.

(58:18):
You don't need them as anorganization.
They're probably.
Extra, um, constitutionalanyway, like there, there,
there's no authorization for thefederal government to have them
in place.
So you transfer some of theagents, you let the bureaucrats
go.
Boom.
You just got rid of the wholeagency.
You saved a bunch of money andyou've made American lives

(58:39):
better and safer.

I think that like I call Trump, Trump is the
little John of the Republicanparty.

Gene (58:49):
Mm

He's like, he's you can't name any little
John hits, but you know, all thesongs that little John was in,
you know, like he just, he's thehype man and,

Gene (59:01):
yeah, he's a master of that.

Yeah, he's great at that.
But outside of that, likepolicy, there are several things
that like, they just told Trumphe couldn't do, and he never
investigated whether or not hecould do that or not.
He was just like, oh, whatever.

Gene (59:17):
and that's the thing.
It's like he he's so believed inhis Inability to be bamboozled
that he didn't notice wheneverybody else that he brought
in like John Bolton Are alldoing a circle around of him and

(59:37):
they're, you know, like he, hesaid, we were going to end our
presence in Afghanistan and thepeople that he brought in to
oversee the generals said, yeah,yeah, yeah.
And then, meanwhile, they're alltalking to each other saying.
Well, he may want that, butwe're not actually going to do
it.

(59:58):
What, how, how do you bringpeople like that in?
That's insane to me.
I mean, it's just, it's veryfrustrating.
It's the thing that I think.
I believe that this is, this isthe worst thing about Trump is
that he drinks his own Kool Aidway too much and he is, he's not

(01:00:22):
pessimistic enough, right?
I want somebody who's putting ona brave face, but deep down is
thinking.
We are so fucked.
How am I going to get us out ofthis?
And I feel like Trump is the guythat says, Oh, we know exactly
what to do.
We got it all figured out.
All we need to do is just getthe votes and we're good to go.
And he believes it.

NiggarificEnergy (01:00:43):
Yes.

Gene (01:00:44):
But he's also got maybe another five years to live.
And then he doesn't care afterthat.
He's out of here.
That's another reason I don'twant somebody that old.
You know?
It's just, there ought to be,and I hate to be the guy that
says a generalization, but Ikind of feel Like after you hit
69, maybe you should get out ofpolitics, go retire, play some

(01:01:06):
golf.

we certainly shouldn't be

Gene (01:01:09):
seven year older making decisions that affect the entire
country.
You want to be a Vivek type andthen have Trump as an advisor.
I'm all for that.
Listen to the old man.
See what advice he gives you.
But he shouldn't be the onewho's president

Yeah, no, I totally agree with that.
I just think that people are,people will never go for it
because they, they don't,they're not going to read the
things.
Yeah, they're not going to readthe things.
They're not going to, even onour side it's just.
It's more really kind ofscrewed, honestly.

Gene (01:01:46):
And that's the thing is like when you start realizing
just how screwed the country iseven in the best case scenario,
then.
If you're an intelligent person,what you start to have to start
thinking about, okay, world'sgoing to go to hell.
How big of an influence can I beon the people closest to me to
minimize the damage in that?

(01:02:07):
And you start thinking in smallterms instead of big terms.
It's not about making Americagreat again, because frankly,
That sounds good and ain't evergoing to happen.
What I'm more concerned with ishow do I minimize the suffering
to people I know?
What can I do to help with that?
Because that suffering is comingand that means, you know, being

(01:02:30):
a prepper.
That means being, astute in lawand politics and understanding
what's coming down the pipeline.
That means understanding financeenough to know what's coming
down.
That's going to ruin mostpeople's 401k plans.
They're going to lose 80 percentof the value of those.
And most people don't doanything beyond that.

(01:02:51):
Um, you also have to not be acomplete speculator.
You can't keep all your money ona thumb drive in Bitcoin.
That's also extremely risky andis frankly prone to be shut down
at any minute.
Like you're just sitting andhoping that nothing bad happens.
And it's also not about keepinga little one ounce gold bricks

(01:03:12):
in your closet either, becauseeverything will become extremely
expensive.
You're going to have to trade aone ounce gold brick.
For one day's worth of food.
Cause you know what?
No one gives a shit about goldwhen you're looking for food.

So I think that I agree with you, like for
our diverse, from adiversification standpoint, need
to like definitely up theirgame.
I also happen to understand thatBitcoin makes the people who
make real money, a lot of money.

(01:03:51):
So.
It's never gonna go away.

Gene (01:03:55):
No.
And that's the thing is if youcan use anything as a
speculative vehicle, right?
So, um, it's a, it's just a wayto actually make money.
The problem is for mostAmericans is they're counting
on.
Mutual funds to be theirretirement fund that outpaces

(01:04:18):
inflation.

Oh, yeah.

Gene (01:04:20):
happening.

The regular American is really dumb.
But they have this blind faithand blind trust that somebody is
going to save them.
And that's why I think thatpeople get pushed into
government.
Because like they they reallyhonestly want a father figure to
come and save them.
But more than just a fatherfigure they want literally a

(01:04:44):
Jesus Christ type figure to comeand save them and that's it's
it's really tough to get outsideof that

Gene (01:04:52):
I again I just blame movie studios because they've
Intoxicated people with thisidea that you know that there
are magical superheroes outthere who will give up their own
lives for themselves Just tohelp you get saved.
Now this is such a crock of shitthat has nothing to do with
reality.
Superheroes are the maleequivalent of the fairy princess

(01:05:14):
being saved by the Prince.
You know, it's, it'sunrealistic, it's kids stories,
literally, these are comic bookheroes.
And you've got whole generationsof people, including people your
age, who are so obsessed withthis idea that they literally
live their lives as thoughsuperheroes are real.

I don't disagree with you, but human
beings need to be told storiesLike from the earliest stories
like till now all those storiesare the same like I read um
jordan peterson's um It's firstbook maps of meaning and it
talked about like the firststory ever told by time at and

(01:05:58):
stuff and like all of thestories like hero stories are
all the same archetype and humanbeings just think in those
archetypes.
So I don't think that you'llever get rid of them.
I just think that the narrativeneeds to change

Gene (01:06:12):
What you got to realize is there, there are stories meant
to illustrate ideas that are toocomplex for the person listening
to the story to understand.
That's why they're for children.
And yeah, stories is a way thatwe communicate hopes, dreams,
ideas, and history.
If you never mature beyond thelevel of those stories, which

(01:06:36):
unfortunately in this country,we have a whole lot of people
that never mature past thatpoint.
And you're stuck at thinkingthat those, those stories aren't
just myths.
They're not just fables, thatthey're actual history, that
they're actually how thingshappen.
And, and that's a very dangerousthing that leads exactly to the

(01:06:56):
path that we're going down rightnow, which is a path to America
becoming a second world country.

for sure.
How do we stop it?
You think?
Because the story has to change.
There's no way you're gonna getrid of that.

Gene (01:07:11):
Yeah, well, and, and look, what Hollywood has been
extremely successful at doingand Disney's part of Hollywood
is in finding things that a lotof people want to see, right?
They make their money by sellingtickets.
Whether those tickets are inperson at theaters, like in the
old days, or whether they're inbuying a streaming media, like

(01:07:33):
they are right now, they'reultimately they're selling
tickets.
They're always going to repeatthe story that is the most
similar.
So, um, I mean, if you readJordan Peterson book, um, I
assume you read JosephCampbell's book as well, if you
haven't definitely read it, thehero with a thousand faces which
tells the, basically thearchetypal hero journey story.

(01:07:57):
And it's, it exists for a reasonbecause it's what we want to
demonstrate to our children asthe righteous path and the
reason that it, it reallyresonates with humans, like you
don't have to be religious tothink that because you can very

(01:08:18):
easily explain it with, um,evolution as well because the
people who didn't teach thatstory to their children, the
people that lived it.
Lives that were not righteousdidn't get to live.
long enough and pass on theirgenes the way that the people
who did.

(01:08:38):
So this, this can be explainedeither evolutionary or
biblically doesn't matter, butit is, it is something that we
have as a common, um, you know,a common theme as, as humans is
this hero's journey idea.
A hero can't be a hero withoutsuffering.
A hero can't be a hero withoutredemption.

(01:09:01):
A hero can't be a hero withselfishness.
These are universal truths and,and so if you start making
movies that all basically arethe same damn story repeated
with different people playingthe characters, you're going to
have sellouts.
Everyone's going to keepwatching your stupid movies
because they're all the samestory and they're all a story

(01:09:22):
that resonates with humanity.
Um, the problem is that when youtell that story to a child to
inspire them, you're achievingthe desired result when that
child.
Goes and watches that story 34times because they love the
characters while they're livingin your basement, smoking weed.

(01:09:44):
And eating junk food.
They're watching somebody else'sstory, not their own.
that's where we are right now iswe're seeing a lot of other
countries start to pull awayfrom the United States and no
longer aspire to be like theUnited States.
The United States is losing itsstarring role as the hero.

(01:10:10):
In the hero's journey.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Mm

No, I, I totally agree.
And I, I.
I told my nephew this, um, overa decade ago, he, he had a
little bit of a tragic life.
His father was followed by anoff duty police officer.
And then the police officer,like he noticed that he followed
him.
And so he stopped the car,confronted the guy and the

(01:10:35):
police officer shot him.
So my nephew is going to get afew hundred thousand dollars
when he turns 18.
And so when he was 10.
I, I said, don't be a contentwatcher, be a content creator.
That people don't watch what thepeople are doing.

(01:10:57):
You create your own content andyou have and build your own
audience.
And needless to say, he didn'tdo it, but that's just the way
it works.
But so I asked him, cause likehe had to move back in with my
mom because his life just wasn'tgoing the way it was supposed to

(01:11:18):
be going.
And he's just waiting for that.
Whatever money so he can blowit, blow it really, really
quickly and be back to the samespot.
But so like I asked him like,okay, so I told you 10 years ago
to be a content creator andthere have been several
millionaires made out of thatstruggle.
Where's your money?

(01:11:39):
And he said, that's a goodpoint.
So it's and for him, he hastime, like he has time, but what
he understood now is that peopleare tracking time no matter
what, you know what I mean?
So it's, um, it's really tough,but like, how do you think that
we solved that or change thatmessage for the new, new

(01:12:00):
generation?

Gene (01:12:01):
I think there needs to be, and there probably will be at
some point, I just don't knowhow it's going to happen, but I
think there needs to be a bigcultural.
Or not even cultural, but reallya generational revolt against
the digital.
Connectivity that like I sawhappen from the start that you

(01:12:22):
kind of were born into, um, itmay not even be Gen Z.
It may be the the double A's.
I don't know what the hell thatwe call the next generation
after Z.
The, the, I think we're goingback to a right.
So

Neither.
No, I have no idea.

Gene (01:12:36):
those kids are going to be, we may start seeing them.
Literally a generational shiftthat isn't trying to have a cell
phone that wants to go back todo the stuff that my generation
did.
You know, I was a kid in theeighties and I know it's, it
gets old for some people causeit sounds like all Gen Xers sing
the same song over and over.

(01:12:56):
But when I was a kid, I had akey to the house and I would
only see my parents for about anhour a day because when I get
home from school on the bus.
I, I put my school bag away andput on, you know, play clothes
and then ride my bike for fouror five, six miles to my buddy's
house maybe eat dinner at theirhouse and we'd be screwing

(01:13:17):
around and doing stuff outside.
We'd be drinking water from thehose.
No one gave a shit aboutpollution.
No one cared about anything thatthe modern parents all seem to
care about too much.
There were still plenty ofpeople that were trying to be
predators to children that,again, it's like, it was not
given so much attention that itwould affect the freedom that

(01:13:41):
children had in my generation.
And by the time you were a kid,like an awful lot of that
changed and you weren't, youjust didn't have the freedom
that I did as a kid to dowhatever the hell I wanted and
to not be tied down.
And if I called my parents, itwould be once a day at some
point in the evening saying whattime I'm going to be home.
Like no one tracked my GPSsignal.

(01:14:03):
No one could call me anytimethey wanted to, if they were
worried.
It was just assumed that don'tmake your parents feel like.
They got to worry by callingthem once a day, you know, stuff
like that.
So I think we're going to seethat in the younger generation,
maybe one that hasn't even beenborn yet to where they're going
to want that.

(01:14:24):
And the way to get that is byissuing the technological ties
that that most people are tiedinto today.
You know, most people look attheir screen time report.
If you're on the Apple platformor whatever the Android
equivalent of that is, whichshows you how many hours a day
you're glued to your phonescreen.

(01:14:45):
And for a lot of people withfull time jobs, that number is
40 hours a week.
Like they're working full time,but they're on their phone also
full time.
When, when are they living?

(01:15:05):
You're still there.
Did I lose you?

Oh, hello.

Gene (01:15:10):
hello.
Did I lose you?

oh, sorry.
Sorry.
I think it got muted for asecond.
I, I, I agree with you.
Um, I just think that from myperspective, I understand this
from an anecdotal and also froma macro perspective of teaching
a little over 10, 000 kids infive different states.

(01:15:32):
It is far easier to, for a kidto accept helicopter parenting
and soft parenting than it isfor them to reject that.
And so like for me, for my kids,like I just don't allow that to
happen.
I just I am tough with my kidsand all of my kids I'm tough
with.

(01:15:54):
but, every, I, even, I have, myI have best friends who don't,
um, they don't train their kidsto be tough at all.
Like they, they, they helicopterparent their kids and that's
just, is what it is.
I know some fathers who justaren't, and willingly admit
this, are not a big part oftheir kids lives or not a big

(01:16:16):
part of their, like they'rephysically there, they're making
the money, but like their momgets to decide everything that
happens in the household andit's like the dad is so
emasculated.
That it's like almost the kiddoesn't even almost see.
What a real man is supposed tobe.
So I, it's, it's

Gene (01:16:36):
And again, you could point right at Hollywood for that as
well,

Oh yeah, no, I don't, I don't disagree with you
for sure.
I just don't, it's tough for meto see that as a solution
because, um, the, the people arejust not choosing the hard road
anymore.

Gene (01:16:53):
but they're not going to have a choice.

yeah.

Gene (01:16:56):
nothing else, society is a self correcting system, like all
of society, all of humansociety.
Whenever there's a dip to oneside, there will come out a
corrective force.
So for example, as the UnitedStates loses its place as a
dominant first world country, asour standard of living declines,

(01:17:20):
as through we start dealing,because one of the things I
predicted recently is we'regoing to get to 100 percent
inflation, a hundred percent ayear.
Um, I think it's going tohappen, may not happen next
year, but it's certainly goingto happen within our lifetimes.
And or within my lifetime.
So in, in less of your lifetime.
Um, and I think that things likethat, regardless of what

(01:17:44):
people's desires or interestsare and how they interact with
their kids, it's going to lead.
To certain realities that youdon't have a choice for.
You will have to have parentsthat work 60 to 80 hours a week.
You will not get to see eitherone of your parents if you have
them.
And if you only have one parent,you may not have a parent.

(01:18:06):
Because your parent is going tohave to give you up for a, um,
Either adoption or a a home forUm, you know, Children from
families that can't care forthem because I think we're gonna
get to a point where the averageAmerican cannot take care of a
child in a single familyhousehold.
We used to be there.

(01:18:28):
If you look back in the historyof the United States for most of
that history, the 1800s all theway up through about 1940.
A single parent could not makeenough money to raise a child.
You'd have to give up yourchildren.
That's that was reality forAmerica.
And I think it's going to becomereality one more time.

(01:18:48):
And, and the, the thing that'shard for people to realize is
that a lot of the, what Trumpwould describe as the greatness
of America, um, You know, and Iwant to say the greatness of
America to me was in theFounding Fathers.
It was in the fact that men werewilling to risk their lives to
take their freedom from a kingand then to create a form of

(01:19:12):
government to provide a level offreedom that had not existed
anywhere in the world like that.
Is America's greatness, but whenmost people think, including
Trump, I think of the greatnessof America is really the post
World War Two years.
It is really the globaldomination of the world by
America because we were the onlysuperpower that was not affected

(01:19:37):
by destruction in World War Two.
Russia obliterated, Japanobliterated, all of Europe
recovering greatly from WorldWar II invasions, Germany
completely bombed out andobliterated by Russia and the
United States.
The UK barely survived.
There were no countries left.

(01:19:58):
And then South America andAfrica and Australia had no
population to speak of, likethey were not world powers.
So America is the only countrythat was left.
Essentially standing without anykind of infrastructural damage.
And so by default became thegreatest country in the world.
And then through some very smartdecisions made by people like

(01:20:22):
making the U S dollar, the Theglobal trade currency.
Um, we were able to hold ontothat much longer than the period
of recovery post World War II toa point where you know,
certainly up till about the year2000, up till about 19, 9, 11,
the United States was stillsitting on the benefits of those

(01:20:45):
decisions post World War II.
And, and that's, I think whatmost people, including Trump
referred to as the greatness ofAmerica.
It's that period of time.
The problem is that.
Unless we have another world waror some other calamity, like
maybe a, a massive asteroidcrashing in the middle of Europe
and destroying most of Europe,unless that was to happen, and

(01:21:11):
we're just not in a position todo that.
We don't have the infrastructurefor manufacturing we've
outsourced most of ourtechnology.
As well as manufacturing out ofthe United States.
We have a tremendous problemwith, um, a lot of the brain
trust that used to exist in theUnited States now actually being

(01:21:35):
foreign brain trusts, and I'mnot knocking people in other
countries that choose to pursuePhDs and get.
To be experts in physics andother disciplines at all.
I think they're doing the rightthing for them.
The problem is when you look atthe papers that are coming out,
the research papers that arefrom the United States
universities, I don't know ifyou've looked at this, but all

(01:21:56):
you gotta do is pick a random,random paper.
You'll see names that are over,over half of them are Chinese.
And they're spending their timestudying in the United States,
getting their PhDs down here, orthey're doing post doc work or
Indian.
There are not a whole lot ofscientific papers being

(01:22:18):
published on research that isgroundbreaking by people with
the last name Johnson or Smith.
It's just not happening.
And a lot of the people that arecoming to the United States for
their degrees and are working onthe cutting edge research
they're, they're not really likeimmigrants.

(01:22:38):
They didn't come here to escapetheir, their mother country.
They're.
Their families are back there,they're going to return there.
They're going to work for firmsfrom those countries, even if
they live somewhere outside ofChina, they're still working for
a Chinese manufacturing company.
And those ideas are going to bebenefiting China more so than
the United States.
So I think there's an awful lothappened in the last 20, 30

(01:23:01):
years that is going to ensurethat the United States does not
have that, that sort of greatestcountry in the world.
A field that I did from the endof world war two up until 2000
or so.

so you think that we'll be fighting
existential crisis and losingnumber one in the

Gene (01:23:22):
Or you're just going to like best case scenario.
We're going to see a stall inour way of life.
And you're going to start seeingother countries, some that you
may have never expected, likeIndonesia.
Just pulling way ahead, gettingbetter high tech, having fewer
jobs that are paying poor wages,having more of the type of

(01:23:44):
things that the United Statesused to have, which is an
ability to export the dirty jobsand purely focus on the clean
jobs.
Um, and that that may behappening in a lot of countries
that the United States franklydidn't think of as being.
First world countries untilrecently.
So the real question is forpeople that, that have had their

(01:24:05):
eyes open and that have managedto be financially successful to
a certain extent, um.
Is do you want to find where tolive, where to create a home for
your children as they becomeadults?
Or do you just want to live inthe same place that your parents

(01:24:25):
did, even though it doesn'toffer the types of benefits
that, um, they had or that youhad.
When you live there and it's,it's a tough question, but as a
child of an immigrant myself Imean, I'm technically, I'm an
immigrant.
I was, I wasn't born in the U.
S.
Um, you know, it's, it's aquestion that people ask all

(01:24:47):
over the world all the time isdo I want to stay where I am or
do I want to make the hard,arduous journey to go someplace
where it may be better for meand my children?
And I think most Americans havenot had to ask that question.
For many, many years, um,probably 200 years or so,

(01:25:08):
because for the 1800s, theUnited States was a land of
opportunity because there wascomplete, like ultimate
libertarian slash anarchistfreedom in the territories.
If you didn't want to deal withlaws of the States, all you had
to do was go further West intothe territories where there

(01:25:29):
might be a little morelawlessness from the, the, the
Indians, Native Americans outthere.
From raids and whatnot.
There might be criminals outthere, but also people kind of
left you alone and to do withwhatever crazy thing you want it
to do.
Like if you're, if you're into abrand new religion, like
Mormonism.
You could head out west and thenpractice that religion without

(01:25:49):
being disturbed.
Um, you know, post World War II,there was other benefits to
being in America.
Obviously, it was the onlycountry that was leading the
world in pretty much everything.
So, it's, it's a tough answer.
It's not one that most peoplehave had to think about in this
country, which is, if I canafford it, do I want to have my
kids grow up somewhere else andhave a better life than they

(01:26:12):
would in this country?

So, yes, I agree with you to a certain
extent.
So we were saying that inflationwould get closer to 100%.

Gene (01:26:24):
Mm hmm.

Long before that, that's like saying that
the market forces were goingwith basically stay the same.
The U S has air superiority,land superiority, and ocean
superiority over every othercountry in the world.
We would just start takingpeople's stuff.

Gene (01:26:45):
Well, yes and no.
So the, the U.
S.
has more natural resources thanmost countries.
Absolutely.
Um, you know, you'd have tocombine elements of countries in
Africa and Asia to get the samelevel of natural resources the
U.
S.
has.
Unfortunately, we've kind ofsabotaged ourselves by cutting

(01:27:07):
ourselves off with the ankles tonot be able to extract a lot of
these resources.
To

I don't even mean that.
I don't even mean the resources,like the resources are the
thing, but like we'll just bombthe hell out of anybody and just
take that stuff.
Like our like militarysuperiority is far superior in
both land, air, and sea.
I

Gene (01:27:29):
that's just empirically not the case, unfortunately, or
maybe fortunately, um, that wasthe case for a large extent past
world war two.
But right now both China andRussia have way more missiles.
The United States does.
Like a factor more the, the Csuperiority to the United States

(01:27:52):
has, I think is definitely thecase.
It's not really in question, butyou have to wonder, you know,
that superiority only existsbecause it hasn't been put to
the test.
There have been no navalconflicts since world war two,
literally.
So we've spent a bunch of moneybuilding ships to have the
biggest Navy in the world, tohave the most advanced Navy.

(01:28:15):
And we do, we have the mostaircraft carriers.
We have the most battle groups,but it's all happened in the
time of peace.
The only, the only countries,the United States has really, I
don't even want to say gotten towar with, because we officially
haven't been in the war.
Since world war two, as far asCongress is concerned, but the

(01:28:38):
conflicts that we've had,they've been with substantially
weaker countries that arealready in the middle of
internal struggles.
And so we've, we have kind ofacted as the police showing up
with a SWAT vehicle, literallyto a double wide trailer.

(01:28:59):
And can we take that on?
Absolutely.
We can.
Um, the entirety of the U S Navycan be wiped out by several
countries right now usingnothing but missiles.
Like they don't need ships.
All they need to do is sink ourships.
That, that is not something thatcan be recreated in one year.

(01:29:22):
If the United States startsacting like a pirate instead of
the police.
And I know sometimes thedifference between the pirate
and the police is questionable,but if the United States, like
you're saying, Hey, we have themight, we could just go and take
stuff.
Well, see what happens when youdo, because we've always been
able to rely on the idea thatwe're there to help the little

(01:29:44):
guy.
We're not there to steal shitfor ourselves, even though we
kind of did that in a lot ofplaces as well,

No one believes that.

Gene (01:29:53):
but we've always managed to.
At least pretend to look likewe're actually helping.
And I think Ukraine's a greatexample of that, because, you
know, ostensibly to people thatdon't understand history, it's
like, well, Ukraine's a country,then they asked for our help
and, and, and we've providingthe help that they've asked for.
That's all there is to it.

(01:30:13):
It's a much more complicatedissue than that, but even still,
Russia is a country with the GDPless than the state of Texas.
Think about that.
Just the state of Texas isactually a bigger country,
financially speaking.
Then the entirety of the countryof Russia.

Oh, I know it's bigger than most places
though.
Like Texas is, I think for awhile it was number five in the
world, like the fifth

Gene (01:30:38):
Yeah.
I think Texas is number sevenright now.

Yeah, California, I think took its
place, but yeah,

Gene (01:30:45):
but either way, it's um, you know, Russia has a lot of
territory.
It has a tremendous amount ofnatural resources, but it's not,
it, you know, it's not exactlyon par with the United States in
terms of either population sizeor its technology or its GDP or

(01:31:06):
any of these other things.
And yet what we've seen inUkraine is that all the high
tech gear, all the equipment wesent out there.
Is getting destroyed

okay.
I'm going to challenge you onthat.
Are you ready?

Gene (01:31:23):
go ahead.
Good.

The superiority for the the U S in
terms of missiles and stuff likethat.
Yes.
We are down missiles, bullets,and armor, a bunch of other
things.
We also.
Aren't really in conflict.
So if we had a total war, total,the United States looks
differently when we're at war,we're making things a lot faster

(01:31:48):
and during almost everything inorder to win, win that
particular conflict or whatever.
Um, so I can't use that as likea, a notch against the air force
or anybody.

Gene (01:32:02):
can just, I can just prove that immediately right now.
We're not at war.
There is no constriction on thesupply chain whatsoever.
We're getting all the resourceswe want.
And yet we're hearing all these.
deficiencies, all these, oh,well, we can't even ship any
more you know, Abrams tanks toUkraine because then we're going
to be depleted ourselves here.

(01:32:23):
We were, we've shipped all theuh, you know, whatever the anti
air rocket systems that we'veshipped out there that we can
afford to ship, because if weship any more, we're going to be
below the minimal level set bythe army.
And there, there is no

that's actually sort of my point.
That's sort of my point.
Like

Gene (01:32:39):
No, but, but

We're not

Gene (01:32:41):
yeah, but let me, let me finish where I'm going with
this.
So.
When you talk about total war,even, even pre total war, do you
think that there's going to beone thing at all that the
industry that produces this isrelying on shipped out of China?
If that happens, there's not asingle system right now that's
manufactured that doesn't relyon components that are coming

(01:33:03):
from overseas.
Someone from China, someone fromIndonesia, someone for, from
other countries, from Korea,from I don't think we're
actually getting anything fromJapan anymore.
Um, something certainly fromTaiwan.
If you're talking about actualwar, that's the first thing that
happens is those supply linesget cut.
It is much easier for China toprevent anything from leaving

(01:33:26):
Taiwan because they're 200 milesoffshore than it is for the
United States to preventsomething.
You know, leaving Russia to getto Ukraine.

Right.
But the original, the originalpoint was we don't have enough
missiles and bullets and allthis other stuff.
We don't have those thingsbecause we're not actually at
conflict.
If we're at conflict, ifsomebody punches you in

Gene (01:33:48):
If we're at conflict, we won't be able to produce them.
So we better have them now whilewe're not in conflict.
Because once a conflict starts,

I don't disagree with you that we should
be preventative and havepreventative measures, but
history has shown so, so muchdifferently.
We've entered, we entered in aWorld War II late where Hitler
was basically knocking on ourdoorstep and still managed to
beat all of these people back.
When you're at total war, you'renot making pillows or TikTok

(01:34:19):
dances and shit like that.
Like your

Gene (01:34:21):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, but again, let's look atWorld War II.
Hitler was never at our door.
Hitler was a friend of theUnited States.
Henry Ford has a photo of himwith Hitler during the

To a certain extent, right.
To a certain Al-Qaeda was our

Gene (01:34:34):
the only reason United States entered World War II as a
military power, not just sellingweapons to England, is because
of Japan.
Because we were now having seenJapan take over the Philippines
and take over large chunks ofChina and Korea.
Um, it was becoming evident thatJapan's only move forward beyond

(01:34:56):
the territory they were alreadyconquered would be North
America.
And so we orchestrated the theblockade, which led to the
Japanese bombing of PearlHarbor, which brought us
officially into the war.
And then of course we startedproviding troops to Europe as
well as the Pacific theater inthat dude, all you got to look

(01:35:18):
at is the number of troops andthe number of weapons utilized
by America in World War II.
And then compare that to theRussians, the Germans and the
British.
And what you will see is theUnited States came into the
conflict at about 11 PM tomidnight.

(01:35:38):
And was able to walk into Berlinhaving shown up much later than
everybody else who was at thedance and suffered very few
casualties as a result anddidn't expend a whole lot of
either men or ammunition to doso.
So if the United States wouldhave been in World War Two

(01:35:59):
immediately from the point thatEngland was attacked.
I think we would have seen avery different perspective on
how easy it was to win World WarII.
I have full confidence thatGermany would have lost no
matter what, but honestly, theywere already, Germany was
already very much on the losingsteps from the massive losses

(01:36:22):
they had on the Eastern frontand from the fact that as much
as we like to make fun of Francethe French influence in Africa.
Was kicking German ass downthere as well.
So Germany was in the process oflosing by the time D Day rolled
around and the United Statesactually came to Europe.

Okay.
But the, the original point waswe had a lack of resources and
arms to fight.
Did we have, stepping into WorldWar II during Pearl Harbor, did
we have enough troops?
Did we have enough bullets?
Did we have enough

Gene (01:37:01):
we got, we got a

didn't have, we didn't have enough of any of
that stuff.
We turned ourselves into a totalwar

Gene (01:37:09):
We had a manufacturing base that could do that, which

so I just,

Gene (01:37:12):
do not have today.
We, we

we have the, we have the infrastructure, but
we have the infrastructure forthat for

Gene (01:37:20):
Well, I'd say we have the raw materials for it.
We don't have the

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just don't have the necessaryneed to, to

Gene (01:37:28):
right?
Because we don't have look, it'snot profitable for us to make a
lot of this stuff here becauseit would cost, you know, four to
10 times more than importing thecomponents and doing nothing but
assembly work here.

right.
And that's where we get back tothe original point, the cost.
And this is my point.
If, if we're getting to near 100percent inflation.
We're not just going to sitaround.
We're going to just start takingpeople's shit.
Like it's not going to be like,we have a do you know what do
you know what rapid dragon is?

Gene (01:38:03):
No.

Okay.
So like we have Russia and Chinahave hypersonics that can move.
Like they can hit movingtargets.
We don't have that.
We have hypersonic.
Our hypersonic can hit movingtargets, but what we do have
that is air superiority againstthem is called rapid drag.
So we can launch I think it'ssomewhere in the neighborhood of

(01:38:27):
a thousand.
Um, basically warheads out of C17s, just 45 out of a C 17 out
of each one.
And they can independently hitdifferent targets over, over a
thousand targets in five or sixplanes.
So we could wipe basically anentire country.

(01:38:50):
Like you just said, Russia hasvery, very small, they have very
large area, but like very

Gene (01:38:55):
hmm.

targets that are actually important.
If, if we start to

Gene (01:38:59):
density is just in a few places.

Oh yeah, like if, if, if shit really starts to
hit the fan, I just think thatwe're just probably just gonna
start taking people's stuff.
Russia has like an agingpopulation anyway, they have a
population collapse, um, they'renot making enough new people and
they're just murdering all oftheir young people

Gene (01:39:18):
Which incidentally, we're not either.
The only way that our graphlooks better is because of
immigration.

for

Gene (01:39:28):
you look at the actual demographics with remove the
immigrants coming to the U.
S.
and you look at purely the thegains from children being born
in the U.
S.
Our graph looks very similar toRussia.

For sure.
It's it's really tough.

Gene (01:39:42):
So you could make the argument that like the
immigrants that are streamingacross right now are probably
good for the country.

Kind of.
See immigrants before, and we'rea nation of immigrants and
people said that, but thoseimmigrants assimilated to the
American way.
These immigrants, and honestly,most of even Black culture does
not want to assimilate to theAmerican way.
So I think that we have a largeswath of people who just

(01:40:12):
absolutely hate.
the American way.
So it's really tough for me tosit there and say like, when
we're not at war, we're like, wekind of hate each other.
We like,

Gene (01:40:26):
Yeah.

we're at war, it's

Gene (01:40:28):
I know what you're saying.
I'm kind of being a little bitof a devil's advocate because,
um, It's it's what I do.
I can argue any side argument atany point in time.
It's what I've always enjoyedand been good at doing.
Um, so even if I if I in generalwould be sitting here nodding my
head as we're talking, um, andyou can't see me because we

(01:40:49):
don't have cameras turned on.
But you know, I may be noddingmy head in agreement, but I'm
also going to challenge you andbring up you know, the contrary
and viewpoint because, um, youcan't ignore Things simply out
of convenience.
And that's why I say you know,I'm in Texas.
I'm actually going down to theborder to Eagle pass this week

(01:41:11):
with a group of folks.
So this, this whole illegalmigrants issue thing is very
much on the forefront of localpolitics.
However, could I come up withsome rational arguments for why
this is actually good, at leastfor some people?

(01:41:31):
Absolutely.
That there is a benefit to acertain class within America
from importing a whole bunch ofcheap labor.
And if it's done illegally, thenso be it.
Cause they don't really care ifit's legal or not.

Yeah, no, I agree.
I, I agree with that totally.
And I think that with COVID,COVID

Gene (01:41:49):
You do.
Mm hmm.

person's, um, work ethic because they were
getting like basically freechecks.
And so like when we came back,like the quality of things built
after COVID is significantlyworse than things built pre
COVID.
And it costs you more now too.
Yeah.
Airplanes.
But before

Gene (01:42:12):
apart?

before airplanes, you know, what was
falling apart?
RVs.
That's I know a ton of peoplewho have RVs and they're just
like, man, anything built after2020 is just crap, it falls
apart, and it's, um, yeah, it's,it's really automobiles the Ford
Lightning is costing Ford moremoney to produce than it is than

(01:42:33):
it's making them

Gene (01:42:34):
And it's not a cheap car to buy.

No, no, it's, it's, it's insane.
Yeah, they Their economy workshowever the heck they want it to
by just basically saying, Hey,we're going to do this, or we're
going to do that.
But, um, yeah, I don't, it's

Gene (01:42:54):
think it's a problem.
And, but also I think that thereare no simple solutions.
You, you, you have to look atworld politics like a game of
chess and not like a game ofcheckers because, and what I
mean by that is every actionthat you take will have a
counter move made by somebodyelse.

(01:43:16):
And so it doesn't matter whichside of the coin you go to,
there will be some kind of aaction taken by somebody that
will piss off somebody.
I don't think anybody would havepredicted 10 years ago that
Saudi Arabia would be joiningBRICS.
That was not even in the mindsof the guys.

Yeah, yeah.
Bricks is

Gene (01:43:44):
it's, it's a question of just caring about, I guess this
is my, my ultimate point in thisdiscussion is, I think the smart
move is to just shrink the sizeof the group that you actually
care about, you know, for somepeople, it may shrink down to
the size of their immediatefamily for other people may
shrink to the size of theirextended family for other

(01:44:06):
people, it may shrink to thesize of your church, But
whatever it is, the group that Iactually give a shit about today
is smaller than the group I gavea shit about 10, 15 years ago.
And I think in, in a couple ofmore years, that number, that
size of that group may be evensmaller.
There are people that yougenuinely will risk your life

(01:44:26):
for.
And to hell with everybody else.

Yeah, that's I try to look at, I obviously
look, try to look at the brightside, even though I, I know that
eventually the shooting is justgoing to start.
I just hope that we we all canuse our Twitter names as call
signs.

Gene (01:44:42):
Right?
Exactly.

I'm a friend.

Gene (01:44:47):
Yeah.
Yeah.

I also, I, part of how we got connected was
the tweet that I sent.
Um, what was that with the CivilWar thing, right?
Did you see that tweet thing?
So obviously it's very differentthan what they thought it was
going to be.
But I think that a nationaldivorce is probably going to be

(01:45:11):
better than, um, like nationalconflict, for sure.
I do think that once theshooting all starts, it's not
going to be As small as yourchurch versus my church, your
town versus my town, it's goingto be the United Republic of
Texas and the

Gene (01:45:32):
I, I agree with that.
However, remember Texas hasabout 45 percent red vote or
blue voters in it.

Oh, I

Gene (01:45:41):
So we talk about how Texas against, you know, the, the
corruption of the United States,rah, rah, rah.
Um, however, and, and bygeography, if you look at all
the counties, certainly most ofthem are very red, but also the
biggest population centers.
You know, I live in Austin,which is 90 percent blue.
Dallas is probably 65, 70percent blue and Houston's

(01:46:05):
probably also about 60 percentblue.
So what you're going to have in,in cities like that.
Is a lot of small groupconflict.

So I think that with that, it easily gets
solved because Texas is its owncountry, right?
Again, right?
It already understands that it'sits own country.
Anyway, I lived there for adecade.
So um, I mean, there arecounties that like, they don't
even.
They don't even do what othercounties do because or other

(01:46:37):
cities do because they justdon't want to, um, but yeah, I
think that when it becomes that,then it becomes about being a
natural born citizen of Texasand most of the people who are
45 of those 45%.
They're all migrants.
So like if you're, if you're anation, an actual country, and
then you're going to say youhave these borders or whatever,

(01:46:57):
then your laws are going todictate, sort of like the United
States, that you have to be anatural born citizen.
So even I probably will not, asa migrant to Texas, will not get
to vote, even though I wouldhelp the cause.
I do think that it wouldrebalance Texas, who is
honestly, every single day,teetering on the edge of going

(01:47:18):
blue, honestly.
Um But yeah, I think that itwould redistrict everything if
you just allowed

Gene (01:47:25):
yeah, I agree with that.
But I also, I, I don't thinkthat would happen without
violence.
I think there will be a lot ofviolence.
I think there'll be, um, youknow, there'll be people in
cities that get killed for beingconservative and pro.
State rights, there will bepotentially people out of cities

(01:47:46):
that will be killed becausethey're subversives and are
plotting to overthrow the newgovernment of Texas.
I just, I don't see it happeningwithout violence.
I don't think any revolution canhappen without violence.
I don't think that's realisticto expect.
I certainly don't think theUnited States is willingly going
to allow Texas, which is, as wesaid, has a GDP that it would be
the 7th in the world.

(01:48:06):
I certainly don't think theUnited States is willingly going
to allow Texas, which is, as wesaid, has a GDP that it would be
the 7th in the world.
If it was independent to leavethe United States and diminish
the GDP of the United States,it's, it's not going to happen
without fighting.
The real question is, will theynuke Texas?
And I think there are somepeople that would say, yeah,

(01:48:26):
let's do that.

Okay.
I don't think they'd nuke Texas.

Gene (01:48:32):
I hope not, but, but there are definitely people in DC
right now that would beperfectly willing to sign off on
that order.

So I agree with you that there are those
people, but in much the same waythat you said that if If the
United States just started goingaround being the bully of
everything, and history hasshown this too, like the riots,
like the black riots in Selma,photographs and stuff like that
coming back, changed the heartsand minds of Americans.
And honestly, I think that Ithink that what Abbott did by

(01:49:04):
busing the migrants to otherplaces put those migrants in the
faces of other people and madetheir problem and it sort of
changed their hearts and mindson the ground, despite the fact
that the people at the top arebeing very ignorant and trying
to ignore all of it.
The people on the ground knowfor a fact that the migrants are

(01:49:24):
cashing checks that are supposedto be theirs.

Gene (01:49:29):
Well, yeah, I mean, that's kind of a, it's a, it's a little
bit of a, a simplified view ofit because they're not here on
vacation cashing at 3, 000 checkand then going back home.
They're literally here for thenext 20, 50 years that are going
to have an impact on everybody'slife for the next 20 and 50
years.

(01:49:51):
Anyway, I also just looked atthe time and I realized we've
been chatting for quite a whileand we got to get this thing
wrapped up.

Oh, yeah,

Gene (01:49:57):
I really, I appreciate you jumping on here.
Um, I I hope everybody elseenjoys listening to you.
I think it's been a fascinatingdiscussion.
We've gotten to cover sometopics that I, I haven't had a
whole lot of time to cover withmy other podcasts that I do.
And, um, I hope you enjoyed thisas well.

I really did.
You're, you're a greatconversationalist and I really
enjoyed the back and forth.
You made me think and that'shonestly that's what we need
more of in the world.
We just gotta have people whothink and get together, you
know.

Gene (01:50:29):
All right.
Let's tell the people where theycan get you.
Is it just a next, do you have aYouTube channel, anything else?

I am just on X niggerific energy and see me out
there, my wife will be bakingbread as soon as we get done.

Gene (01:50:46):
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, you've, you've had somegreat posts.
I think I've, I've repostedmultiple posts that you've put
out there so keep it, keep itgoing.
And, um, yeah, I mean, the, thelittle thing that we can all be
doing is just spreading themessage, pointing out the
stupidity when we see stupidityand doing an attaboy to people

(01:51:07):
doing good.

I agree, brother.
Thanks for having me on.

Gene (01:51:12):
Absolutely.

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