November 6, 2023 • 27 mins
Have you ever wondered how the term 'metrosexual' fell out of fashion? Today, we question whether the freedom to express a variety of masculinities without the need for labels has rendered such terms obsolete. Likewise, we ponder if descriptors like 'tomboy' are still used for young girls, or if we've moved on to accepting children for who they are without boxing them into categories.
Then, we venture into the mysterious and often misunderstood world of Multi-Level Marketing (MLMs) and pyramid schemes. We reminisce about our personal run-ins with MLMs and share cautionary tales from friends and family. From farcical MLM parties to a bizarre incident involving a home birth, we've got stories that are sure to both entertain and enlighten you. We also delve into the wealth of documentaries that have shed light on these subjects and offer tips on how to spot potential scams.
Finally, we recall some of the wildest MLM ideas we've come across, including selling bugs for terrariums! We also explore the often hilarious and sometimes unsettling realities of MLM parties and pyramid schemes through tales of Beauty Counter mishaps and the impact of MLMs on the Catholic Church. As we discuss these experiences, we're sure to have a good laugh and leave you with some food for thought. So buckle up and join us on this rollercoaster ride of the absurd, the hilarious, and the downright bizarre.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, hi, welcome to Sister Shit.
I'm Caroline, I'm Meredith andit's Tuesday.
Happy Tuesday.
How's your week going?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's going, yeah, yes .
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's thankful season, so I'm counting on you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm counting on you, I'm counting on you, I'm
counting on you, and so I'mcounting my blessings.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
How's yours?
It's good yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Just trucking along.
Okay, I'm actually reallyexcited because next week we'll
have our like a guest on thepodcast that we don't know
personally but we reach out tobecause she's really funny on
Instagram and we love her storyand we love how the way she
tells stories.
So she's going to be on ournext bad date episode.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, stay tuned, bad dates.
Part two is coming.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you want to give her a follow beforehand so you
can kind of check her out.
Her Instagram is at limpbrusket.
We'll put it in the while.
It's LIMP BROOZKIT.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
She's great.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Can't wait for that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So we're excited about that.
Yes, but okay, keith and I weretalking a couple of days ago
and I don't even remember whythis came up, but I was like I
don't know the last time I'veheard someone describe someone
in this way and is thissomething we're still doing?
Okay, calling someonemetrosexual.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I literally thought about this Did you A month ago,
because somebody said it and Ithought that seems outdated.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, what's the, what's the status?
Like it used to be so commonlyused.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
People love to call he's so metro.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, he's not gay, he's just metro.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
People love to say about that, about their husbands
and the like.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Early 2000s yeah, did any of them end up gay, I don't
know.
Yeah, I think now we just likeaccept the fact that, like men,
can be feminine and not have tobe called something.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, I guess that's what's happened, which is great.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
We can celebrate that , and not have to be under any
sort of anything.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, because of that yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What a win.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I know what a win that we're not using metro
anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I know I really haven't heard that Someone used
it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I can't remember who used it, but someone used it and
I thought to myself like Ihaven't heard someone say that
in a long time and I feel likethat is somewhat outdated these
days.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Like now.
You would just say oh.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Like I wonder if someone from Gen Z would even
know what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm trying to think of someone that, like our mom,
used to always describe as Metroother than our father.
Yeah, like literally.
She used to always say that hewas Metro because he like, loved
a pair of like good loafers andlove to decorate a mantle.
He loves, he makes, he makes agreat Christmas mantle.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He does and he does Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
On the topic of his shoes, Meredith was in the shoe
department with her daughter andher daughter picked up a pair
of women's loafers and goes mom,granddaddy, has these shoes.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And I have never once like talked about his shoes to
her or anything.
It was like just an observation, which it was amazing.
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I was very validated.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I let him know immediately yeah, it was, it was
very funny, oh man.
But yeah, that was, I don'tknow.
Yeah, Close case.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No longer a thing.
I mean, I don't think it's likederogatory.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, I think it's just like, like you said,
unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Because people are just accepting of people without
the label Different types ofmasculinity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'sinteresting and that like you
can do those things.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And not be gay.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well and like, still be masculine.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh right, so it's.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean, there really is like this open box of how you
can be as a person in thesedays.
Yeah, I remember being told,like my whole childhood, that I
was such a tomboy, which waslike celebrated.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Is that still a term?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
People are using.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't know.
I can't imagine describing achild as a tomboy.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I've never heard like a fellow parent describe a kid
there.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I know I would just like I feel like you just
describe what they're into.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You don't have to like put it in a box anymore.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Which I'm yeah it is, it's good, it's cool, but okay,
tonight I wanted to talk aboutbecause okay, let me back up I
wanted to talk about MLMsbecause I was at a birthday
party this past weekend and thetopic got brought up of an MLM
that like scammed.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What's an MLM if for?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Multi-level marketing yes, aka pyramid scheme.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it's like a sophisticated pyramid scheme.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yes, sometimes.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Sometimes it's legit.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, first let's talk through.
How do you know if an MLM islegit, a the person is not
pushed to recruit?
Yeah, I think that's like thefirst bad sign.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, no, not that they're not pushed because you
can be pushed to recruit an MLM.
But a pyramid scheme, you canpick it.
You can know that it's apyramid scheme if you can only
make money if you recruit.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I sold beauty counter first like a stint after having
my first daughter and I neverrecruited anyone and I made like
I Made money, big bucks, but Inever was like in debt to the
company.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, like I made well, that's another,
that's so, that's another badsign is if they make you buy
product up front.
Yeah, yeah which we learnedfrom all of the documentaries.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes, I love, I love, I know, so anyway, so you're out
of thing.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay yeah.
So I was at a birthday partyand we were talking about how my
friends sister-in-law went on abachelorette party and they did
one.
I've like feel like I can't saynames because I don't want to
like talk bad about any of them,but they, they.
It was like the sex party one.
That's super popular.
(06:33):
Where you like, buy the sextoys and the person throwing the
party gets a bunch of money offtheir sex toy.
Mm-hmm and they all.
It was like for the bride.
So everyone bought something toget like to help the bride out,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't like bought them something for themselves
because the bride was gonna get.
A bride gets discounts.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Mm-hmm and apparently the girl Literally robbed them
all Wait what do?
You mean Like she literallynever got their stuff.
They all paid her and none ofthem ever got their sex toys.
Their dildos never came in themail, so did she.
Was she just like pot?
Did they come with cat?
(07:12):
Well then they looked her upand she like had been kicked out
of like.
That's don't you see, I don'tknow.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So she said, listen, this is an appearance scheme and
I'm gonna get my bag anyway, Ican yeah because I Spent $5,000
on dildos and I've got him.
I've got to either move thisinventory or I just got a rob.
Some people.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But we were all joking saying that my friend's
mother-in-law should do that asher like retirement job, because
she's just like a very chill,educated, she like has worked in
Like OB or labor and delivery.
She's a nurse.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So that would be a fun retirement job.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm like it's the perfect retirement job for you.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah.
So we're, we're never been toone of those parties.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I haven't either, but I found out one without knowing
it was one no mom I I don'tknow if it was a Like one of
those parties or if it wasliterally just like a group of
people that got together for adinner park and they give each
other sex toys.
I think that is that's whathappened, and then they didn't
know when she opened up thepresent and thought it was a
(08:22):
soap dish and it like soap dish.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think like a textured Rubby thing.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Okay and she thought it was like something you.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You put your soap on and apparently she was like, oh
my gosh, I've been needing oneof these.
And dad was like stop, don'tsay that she didn't know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And then I think she found out when the never opened
the present and it was like Waymore weird.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
What do you call?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
it obvious Follett, follett.
Oh, that's so funny, I know.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But it made me think about this time that I've had a
couple MLM experiences.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You got into that one Wait which one?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
There's two, I don't want to say the name.
What does that have to do with?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
it.
I don't remember.
They sold all kinds of stuff,products, right, all kinds of
products.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So she wouldn't leave me alone.
Do you want?
To give me a sell under her andshe gave me this gift basket of
all of the products.
It literally broke.
I was allergic to whatever shegave me.
My face broke out in tons oftiny little bumps and they were
so itchy and at TBH I wasthankful because that was my way
out, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I was like I risked it.
You were very stressed for theweek.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I can't tell people no.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
If you know me.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You would know that something like this would really
stress me out that I didn'tknow how to tell her.
You wouldn't even ghost her.
I know she was nice.
They're always nice unlessthey're bullies from high school
.
This girl was actually reallynice, so I didn't want to be
like.
This is a scam.
You're trapped, but so she gaveme the gift thing and then you
(10:02):
feel like you have to do it ifthey gave you product.
Right, right, right and that wasmy way out, though I was like,
oh, thank God, I got a rash.
Sorry, I'm allergic to all theproducts.
I can't do it.
I can't promote something thatI can't use.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
She didn't tell you to keep using it because that's
your body's way of working outall the toxins, because that's
what they low key kind of toldus to tell people on Beauty
Counter which.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Beauty Counter is like it's actually very good
stuff, but we are notdermatologists.
We were at my niece's baptismthis Sunday and they like put
the oil on their head and itlike smelled really good.
When we got my niece back wewere like, ooh, she smells like
thieves oil and my sister-in-lawwas like young living, is that?
You Does this?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
church use young living.
Imagine, oh my gosh, they'd beworking in the dough if every
Catholic church got on board.
All the priests are like youngliving reps.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh my gosh, Isn't that the one where the dude like
fed his kids oils and liketried to do like a very-.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
He like got his medical degree in like a South
American country, and then therewas like practicing medicine
and Wasn't legit, he'll die onhis watch.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I was going to say his kid died on his watch.
He like tried to do a homebirth, home birth.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, yee.
And now he's like live in largeyeah.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think he died.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Oh, he did Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Or maybe he's on the run.
One of them Once again.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't really know, those are really the only two
ends for like a pyramid schemeguy, like the big crumb dude
yeah, he's like on the run.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So, anyways, that was one of the ones I got roped
into, and the other one was aworkout one and I got roped into
that one twice.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, I don't know how I didn't learn about this.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't know, about this In the first time, twice.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
In the first time it was new and I literally had to
watch.
This is how long ago this was.
I literally had to watch theworkout On a DVD.
Like things on DVDs on my DVDplayer in my bedroom and I'd be
like working out upstairs at momand dad's house in my bedroom
with, like my DVD player and mytiny ass TV.
That's so funny.
And then, after having some,someone prayed on me and like
(12:05):
got me to some girl I didn'teven know.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Oh, I kind of remember this, but she was nice
too.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think that's what gets me.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's the key.
The people are super nice.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And I'm like, wow, I can do this.
And then you pay them a bunchof money and then I dropped off
after like three weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Did you so?
How much money did you lose?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like 150.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, you win some, you lose some.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I did it for three weeks.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Some gems cost like a dollar a calorie.
So you got roped into beautycounter but you actually made
money off of that.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, I didn't get roped in.
I very much wanted to.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, and you got in on that in the beginning before,
like anyone was into it, likeyou were the first person that
told me about it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, it was relatively new, but I really
liked the stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And I wasn't.
The person you recruited me wasnot trying hard.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I was like I want to do this.
They're still reputable, yeah,like if you haven't crashed and
burned yet as an MLM, not thatthey are one.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They know they are.
That's what they say.
They are MLMs like, not pyramidschemes are illegal.
Mlms are not illegal.
Lula row was a pyramid, yes anda lot of pyramid schemes say
they're MLMs because MLM islegal but it's MLM just means
that it's like you make moneyoff of other people below you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So what is a pyramids ?
What's the difference?
Pyramids, these?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
scheme is like them.
It's like formatted in a waythat the people at the top make
a very small percentage, aremaking the the vast majority of
the company's wealth.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Where the young, the people at the bottom of the
pyramid, are not making anymoney and actually have like
they're.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, this is what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
What it is, the people at the top are making
money off of the people at thebottom.
Reps like it's.
The product is not making themoney company the company money
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So yeah, you had to pay like $3,000.
In the documentary I rememberseeing that people were like
forking over their entiresavings and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, so I think is I think, as long as it's like a
specific percentage is your, doyou have to have a certain
percentage of your income comingfrom your actual product to not
be a pyramid scheme?
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So I think, I think what's up on the scheme.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Some of these things toe a really like thin line
because I think there's a lot ofMLMs that probably make like
probably like very close to meoff of like yeah, like they're
making, but you do, you don'thave to pay to be a rep, right?
No, but you pay you.
There is like a on boarding fee, like you pay like $80 for,
like your website URL, okay, andthen they give you like a
(15:00):
massive discount $80 is sodifferent than, oh yeah, $3,000.
And then you get a dislike if alot of people just sign up as a
rep, because they get like areally huge discount for signing
up as a rep that you wouldn'tget otherwise.
Okay, but then you don't loseany money really if you don't
continue to sell.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So it's it.
I liked it.
I just like got to the pointwhere I I like sold to everyone
I knew and didn't have anyinterest in like knocking on
doors and selling to people Ididn't know.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's funny think saying that, because I think
back, our grandma sold a Ava andshe was like Mary Kay, she was
a big.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
She was a big Ava yeah, she got to go to Greece
with them.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah she got some diamonds from them.
She didn't get the Cadillac.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, but she.
I have the diamond ring thatshe won from Ava dude.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I didn't know.
She went to Greece.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
She was like a high roller Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Can we talk about the Ava store on the road that you
live on?
Yeah, what?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
is that I don't know.
I pass it every day.
We should go someday.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We should.
We'll do some recon, becauseevery time I pass it I'm like
either it's these rich, theselike rich old ladies that are
running this and making moneyoff of all the ladies facade or
it is a yes.
It's like laundering some.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I have no idea.
It's very odd, but yeah,there's like a little tiny
storefront.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Of an Ava store and it's got like fake plants galore
inside it.
It's very interesting and likethe lights are always shining
bright on all the product.
Like you can look in thewindows from the street and see
all the Ava product in there.
It's so and like how is thislong has that product been
sitting there?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I know right, I thought it went out of business.
People use Ava.
Is it a museum?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
People still use Mary Kay.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Like big time I okay, but I was going to tell you.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Did I ever tell you?
Mimi?
Facebook message me when I shefound out I was selling beauty
counter with all her sales tips.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No wait that's so sweet it was.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It was like make sure you make the sale in the room.
It was like old school salestips.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I wonder I could still find the message.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, it was cute, sweet Mimi, she's sales lady.
I got roped into a Mary Kay.
I feel like it's happened toall of us, but I had a Mary Kay
party.
She went to church with me.
I went, I was the only onethere and she did her whole
pitch, mayor, just to me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Mayor.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I bought a sample size mascara Wait, wait, wait
wait.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh God Was?
Were other people invited?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, and they just didn't know.
One showed up who I just Idon't love.
I don't like to be flaky.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So I know well, good for you and you bought something
, but I'm sad for her and you Iwas.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
It was like I was sitting there, like I can't
believe this is actuallyhappening.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
There was this phase.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
She did the whole pitch, like I was, like there
was 20 people in the room.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Good for her.
She was like this is goodpractice for me.
I know, there was this phasewhere, like people were like
selling chocolate, chocolate andthey were called like
chocolateeers.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
When was this?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Like when I was in right after high school I guess
Chocolate it was like chocolate.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Are you sure it wasn't like the fundraiser you
do in high school?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No, because those were delicious.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I come home with a box of chocolate bars and I'm
pretty sure I bought like halfof my own inventory.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like Mom, can I have $20?
For what?
Nothing, it's like for your ownbox of chocolate.
No, I, oh my gosh, I will sayone time my ex-boyfriend stole a
giant Costco.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
The one that sold the ladies silver.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No, this is a different one, the owl guy.
Yeah, he went to a kid'sbirthday party His boss's kid's
birthday party and took homeCostco boxes of chips like
they's chips.
I don't know if he sold them orthe boss gave them to him.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
How do you casually walk out of a party with a
Costco sized box of chips?
Maybe the boss gave them to him.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Chips, okay, I don't really remember, but all I know
is that he gave them to me and Itook them to school and I sold
them and I made like 40 bucks.
We had so many chips.
I was selling chips for liketwo months.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
With zero investment.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Zero investment, not full profit.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Full profit Good for you Off of a kid's birthday
party Costco box of chips.
Who were you selling to?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Anyone that needed snacks.
That's amazing I would just putlike 10 in my backpack and I'd
sell like almost all of themevery day.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Why weren't people going to vending machines?
I think I was cheaper.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think I like, did it smart Good for you.
Thanks, entrepreneurial bitch.
Can't even say the word, didyou have a business name?
No, I should have.
What would it have been?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
My creative juices are not currently flowing.
I thought Chippy girl.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Good one.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh man, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Well, to end it, if you could start an MLM, what
would you do?
Like?
What product would I sell?
Yeah, and who would be-.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I am friends with a person who married someone who
is very wealthy and his dad madeall the money, or he was like
an early buy-in in a pyramidscheme.
It's like a pyramid scheme thatyou hear about in all the
documentaries, and he was one ofthe early adopters.
(20:59):
I honestly don't know the nameand what they sold was kind of
random Interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But they're doing very well and they've like he
didn't have to pay back any ofthe money.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean, if you get in early, you only make money.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, but I mean they found out it was a pyramid
scheme, he didn't have to getsued or pay anything, because I
think Lula Roe people got sued.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And he wasn't an owner.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
He was just like a salesperson.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Those people were so strange?
Oh yeah, they were so weird, soweird, and they were like
Christians and had no idea thatthey were doing anything wrong.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, they were volunteering tobe on the documentary.
It was so weird.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yes, it was so odd.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, but okay, what would yours be?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I think mine would be-.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I wouldn't want to do anything that has to do with
like health, because that's toorisky.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I always think that I had likeall the good ideas are already
gone, but people think of newstuff all the time.
You could do like MLMs ofterrariums with snails in them.
Oh my gosh, you could sell bugsfor terrariums.
What I'm looking at, yourterrarium, but I'm thinking
(22:16):
about I'm thinking about bugs.
Well, I'm thinking Can youthink about the store houses I'd
have to keep?
I'm thinking about your friendthat was like I don't know where
to get the bugs for myterrarium.
I don't want to keep the bugsyou could have.
Can you imagine all the snails?
It'd be kind of cute.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, do snails eat?
By the way, Because Decomposingthings?
Because you gave me that snailin the terrarium and he came out
looking for food today and Iwas like I think he just needs
to stir it, he'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, they'll like.
I think they like suck on dirt,poor snail.
No, they eat decomposing things, so they eat like-.
So I need to put something deadin there, put a piece of fruit
in there Like they'll eat astrawberry and you can put a
little calcium powder on it ifyou've wanted to give them a
little treat.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't have calcium powder.
Can I just stick a Tums inthere?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
No, A Tums that's calcium.
Yes, oh, maybe.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's why mom loves them.
She's like it gets rid of yourtummy ache and it's got extra
calcium for your bones.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I heard her say that she said that to me like three
weeks ago.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, I don't want to sell bugson an MLM model.
I don't want to do that.
That is solving a non problem.
Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This is going off track one more time, but do you
remember what was the placecalled the pet store in our
hometown?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Roy's Aquarium.
Roy's Aquarium yeah, disgustingNightmares.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I bought rats from there in high school.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Why.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I didn't realize it.
They were like Feeding rats.
Like the ones that snakes eat.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So I like, wanted it to be my little pet.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
But is there a difference between one's snakes
eat and one's better pets?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I don't know, but he would smoke inside of the shop.
So like all the pets were likenot well.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We bought these rats and it was me and my two friends
and we took them home and daythree they all started like
bleeding out of their mouths andbuttholes and mom and dad were
out of town and I had to likefigure out what to do with my
internally bleeding pet rat.
They probably hit a canker, andI had literally call Uncle Rand
(24:22):
, who lives next door, our uncle, to be like.
Can you please help me get ridof these rats, because I I would
have just like put them downthe hill.
Mayor, I couldn't.
I saw some like.
If you would have seen it.
It like is still in my head.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I don't know, don't describe it.
This is spooky.
Season is over.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So, anyways, talk about being held accountable,
roy yeah.
Roy, you gave lots of animalscancer with your smoking inside
of your pet store.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That place was creepy .
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And mom would take us there for like fun.
Before it got weird, the Beaverwas a small town.
That wasn't what we had.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
That and Walmart, okay well what's your?
Mlm.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I don't know, Maybe like I don't know, Maybe like I
keep thinking of something thatalready exists.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
When I watched a lot of Shark Tank I had business
ideas come out the wazoo and Idon't watch Shark Tank anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What was your business?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I don't remember any of them.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I remember thinking that I like as a kid I was like
I saw a car wreck one time and Isaw this girl's face that was
super scratched up and I waslike, oh my gosh, the airbag
hurts worse than the caraccident.
I'm gonna make fluffy, cushy,sheepskin airbag covers.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I was like that's what's fit inside of the car.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
For invention convention and I remember mom
just being like no, or like shejust like shot it down real fast
.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You know what mine was and I still stand by this.
I designed and modeled out ofthat foam clay.
This will be.
This is how we're gonna roundout this episode.
Okay, this is an idea and I'mpretty sure I won honorable
mention.
Okay, it was a little likething you put around your
toothbrush, so when you'rebrushing your teeth as a kid,
your like spit doesn't drip downon your hand Apparently that
(26:17):
was an issue for me, yeah.
But it was like a little cupSensory queen.
Yeah, it was a sensory thing,for sure.
And also why was I drooling downmy hand when I?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
was brushing my teeth .
I don't know, but I rememberthat and I remember thinking
like you're brilliant.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I still am like that was a pretty smart idea, Should
have gone to patent.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I know, anyway, you should have, anyways, that can
be your MLAs.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And I remember actually the guy who won just
put handles on a surfboard and Ithought that's dumb and I'm
pretty sure you just won becauseyour project is the biggest and
that it was freaking Wait why?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
What were the handles for?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
To hold on, so you don't fall off your surfboard.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That defeats the whole purpose.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I know I'm still mad about it, like literally he just
won because he brought in thebiggest thing, and that is how
the world goes around.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Was he a white male?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Also how the world goes around.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Just yep, all right Well if you guys have any MLM
ideas, let us know.
We're investing.
Just kidding, I don't have anymoney.
See you next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
See you next Tuesday Bye.
Hi, hi, welcome to Sister Shit.
I'm Caroline, I'm Meredith andit's Tuesday.
Happy Tuesday.
How's your week going?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's going, yeah, yes .
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It's thankful season, so I'm counting on you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm counting on you, I'm counting on you, I'm
counting on you, and so I'mcounting my blessings.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
How's yours?
It's good yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Just trucking along.
Okay, I'm actually reallyexcited because next week we'll
have our like a guest on thepodcast that we don't know
personally but we reach out tobecause she's really funny on
Instagram and we love her storyand we love how the way she
tells stories.
So she's going to be on ournext bad date episode.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, stay tuned, bad dates.
Part two is coming.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you want to give her a follow beforehand so you
can kind of check her out.
Her Instagram is at limpbrusket.
We'll put it in the while.
It's LIMP BROOZKIT.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
She's great.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Can't wait for that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So we're excited about that.
Yes, but okay, keith and I weretalking a couple of days ago
and I don't even remember whythis came up, but I was like I
don't know the last time I'veheard someone describe someone
in this way and is thissomething we're still doing?
Okay, calling someonemetrosexual.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I literally thought about this Did you A month ago,
because somebody said it and Ithought that seems outdated.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, what's the, what's the status?
Like it used to be so commonlyused.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
People love to call he's so metro.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, he's not gay, he's just metro.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
People love to say about that, about their husbands
and the like.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Early 2000s yeah, did any of them end up gay, I don't
know.
Yeah, I think now we just likeaccept the fact that, like men,
can be feminine and not have tobe called something.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, I guess that's what's happened, which is great.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
We can celebrate that , and not have to be under any
sort of anything.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, because of that yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What a win.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I know what a win that we're not using metro
anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I know I really haven't heard that Someone used
it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I can't remember who used it, but someone used it and
I thought to myself like Ihaven't heard someone say that
in a long time and I feel likethat is somewhat outdated these
days.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Like now.
You would just say oh.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Like I wonder if someone from Gen Z would even
know what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I'm trying to think of someone that, like our mom,
used to always describe as Metroother than our father.
Yeah, like literally.
She used to always say that hewas Metro because he like, loved
a pair of like good loafers andlove to decorate a mantle.
He loves, he makes, he makes agreat Christmas mantle.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He does and he does Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
On the topic of his shoes, Meredith was in the shoe
department with her daughter andher daughter picked up a pair
of women's loafers and goes mom,granddaddy, has these shoes.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And I have never once like talked about his shoes to
her or anything.
It was like just an observation, which it was amazing.
It was so good.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I was very validated.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I let him know immediately yeah, it was, it was
very funny, oh man.
But yeah, that was, I don'tknow.
Yeah, Close case.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No longer a thing.
I mean, I don't think it's likederogatory.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, I think it's just like, like you said,
unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Because people are just accepting of people without
the label Different types ofmasculinity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'sinteresting and that like you
can do those things.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And not be gay.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well and like, still be masculine.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh right, so it's.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean, there really is like this open box of how you
can be as a person in thesedays.
Yeah, I remember being told,like my whole childhood, that I
was such a tomboy, which waslike celebrated.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Is that still a term?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
People are using.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't know.
I can't imagine describing achild as a tomboy.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I've never heard like a fellow parent describe a kid
there.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I know I would just like I feel like you just
describe what they're into.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You don't have to like put it in a box anymore.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Which I'm yeah it is, it's good, it's cool, but okay,
tonight I wanted to talk aboutbecause okay, let me back up I
wanted to talk about MLMsbecause I was at a birthday
party this past weekend and thetopic got brought up of an MLM
that like scammed.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
What's an MLM if for?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Multi-level marketing yes, aka pyramid scheme.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it's like a sophisticated pyramid scheme.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yes, sometimes.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Sometimes it's legit.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, first let's talk through.
How do you know if an MLM islegit, a the person is not
pushed to recruit?
Yeah, I think that's like thefirst bad sign.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Well, no, not that they're not pushed because you
can be pushed to recruit an MLM.
But a pyramid scheme, you canpick it.
You can know that it's apyramid scheme if you can only
make money if you recruit.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I sold beauty counter first like a stint after having
my first daughter and I neverrecruited anyone and I made like
I Made money, big bucks, but Inever was like in debt to the
company.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, like I made well, that's another,
that's so, that's another badsign is if they make you buy
product up front.
Yeah, yeah which we learnedfrom all of the documentaries.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yes, I love, I love, I know, so anyway, so you're out
of thing.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay yeah.
So I was at a birthday partyand we were talking about how my
friends sister-in-law went on abachelorette party and they did
one.
I've like feel like I can't saynames because I don't want to
like talk bad about any of them,but they, they.
It was like the sex party one.
That's super popular.
(06:33):
Where you like, buy the sextoys and the person throwing the
party gets a bunch of money offtheir sex toy.
Mm-hmm and they all.
It was like for the bride.
So everyone bought something toget like to help the bride out,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't like bought them something for themselves
because the bride was gonna get.
A bride gets discounts.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Mm-hmm and apparently the girl Literally robbed them
all Wait what do?
You mean Like she literallynever got their stuff.
They all paid her and none ofthem ever got their sex toys.
Their dildos never came in themail, so did she.
Was she just like pot?
Did they come with cat?
(07:12):
Well then they looked her upand she like had been kicked out
of like.
That's don't you see, I don'tknow.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So she said, listen, this is an appearance scheme and
I'm gonna get my bag anyway, Ican yeah because I Spent $5,000
on dildos and I've got him.
I've got to either move thisinventory or I just got a rob.
Some people.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But we were all joking saying that my friend's
mother-in-law should do that asher like retirement job, because
she's just like a very chill,educated, she like has worked in
Like OB or labor and delivery.
She's a nurse.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
So that would be a fun retirement job.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I'm like it's the perfect retirement job for you.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah.
So we're, we're never been toone of those parties.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I haven't either, but I found out one without knowing
it was one no mom I I don'tknow if it was a Like one of
those parties or if it wasliterally just like a group of
people that got together for adinner park and they give each
other sex toys.
I think that is that's whathappened, and then they didn't
know when she opened up thepresent and thought it was a
(08:22):
soap dish and it like soap dish.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I think like a textured Rubby thing.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Okay and she thought it was like something you.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You put your soap on and apparently she was like, oh
my gosh, I've been needing oneof these.
And dad was like stop, don'tsay that she didn't know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And then I think she found out when the never opened
the present and it was like Waymore weird.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
What do you call?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
it obvious Follett, follett.
Oh, that's so funny, I know.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
But it made me think about this time that I've had a
couple MLM experiences.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You got into that one Wait which one?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
There's two, I don't want to say the name.
What does that have to do with?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
it.
I don't remember.
They sold all kinds of stuff,products, right, all kinds of
products.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So she wouldn't leave me alone.
Do you want?
To give me a sell under her andshe gave me this gift basket of
all of the products.
It literally broke.
I was allergic to whatever shegave me.
My face broke out in tons oftiny little bumps and they were
so itchy and at TBH I wasthankful because that was my way
out, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I was like I risked it.
You were very stressed for theweek.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I can't tell people no.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
If you know me.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You would know that something like this would really
stress me out that I didn'tknow how to tell her.
You wouldn't even ghost her.
I know she was nice.
They're always nice unlessthey're bullies from high school
.
This girl was actually reallynice, so I didn't want to be
like.
This is a scam.
You're trapped, but so she gaveme the gift thing and then you
(10:02):
feel like you have to do it ifthey gave you product.
Right, right, right and that wasmy way out, though I was like,
oh, thank God, I got a rash.
Sorry, I'm allergic to all theproducts.
I can't do it.
I can't promote something thatI can't use.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
She didn't tell you to keep using it because that's
your body's way of working outall the toxins, because that's
what they low key kind of toldus to tell people on Beauty
Counter which.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Beauty Counter is like it's actually very good
stuff, but we are notdermatologists.
We were at my niece's baptismthis Sunday and they like put
the oil on their head and itlike smelled really good.
When we got my niece back wewere like, ooh, she smells like
thieves oil and my sister-in-lawwas like young living, is that?
You Does this?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
church use young living.
Imagine, oh my gosh, they'd beworking in the dough if every
Catholic church got on board.
All the priests are like youngliving reps.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh my gosh, Isn't that the one where the dude like
fed his kids oils and liketried to do like a very-.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
He like got his medical degree in like a South
American country, and then therewas like practicing medicine
and Wasn't legit, he'll die onhis watch.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I was going to say his kid died on his watch.
He like tried to do a homebirth, home birth.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, yee.
And now he's like live in largeyeah.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think he died.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Oh, he did Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Or maybe he's on the run.
One of them Once again.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't really know, those are really the only two
ends for like a pyramid schemeguy, like the big crumb dude
yeah, he's like on the run.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So, anyways, that was one of the ones I got roped
into, and the other one was aworkout one and I got roped into
that one twice.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, I don't know how I didn't learn about this.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't know, about this In the first time, twice.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
In the first time it was new and I literally had to
watch.
This is how long ago this was.
I literally had to watch theworkout On a DVD.
Like things on DVDs on my DVDplayer in my bedroom and I'd be
like working out upstairs at momand dad's house in my bedroom
with, like my DVD player and mytiny ass TV.
That's so funny.
And then, after having some,someone prayed on me and like
(12:05):
got me to some girl I didn'teven know.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Oh, I kind of remember this, but she was nice
too.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think that's what gets me.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
That's the key.
The people are super nice.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And I'm like, wow, I can do this.
And then you pay them a bunchof money and then I dropped off
after like three weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Did you so?
How much money did you lose?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like 150.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, you win some, you lose some.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I did it for three weeks.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Some gems cost like a dollar a calorie.
So you got roped into beautycounter but you actually made
money off of that.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, I didn't get roped in.
I very much wanted to.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, and you got in on that in the beginning before,
like anyone was into it, likeyou were the first person that
told me about it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, it was relatively new, but I really
liked the stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And I wasn't.
The person you recruited me wasnot trying hard.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I was like I want to do this.
They're still reputable, yeah,like if you haven't crashed and
burned yet as an MLM, not thatthey are one.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They know they are.
That's what they say.
They are MLMs like, not pyramidschemes are illegal.
Mlms are not illegal.
Lula row was a pyramid, yes anda lot of pyramid schemes say
they're MLMs because MLM islegal but it's MLM just means
that it's like you make moneyoff of other people below you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So what is a pyramids ?
What's the difference?
Pyramids, these?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
scheme is like them.
It's like formatted in a waythat the people at the top make
a very small percentage, aremaking the the vast majority of
the company's wealth.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Where the young, the people at the bottom of the
pyramid, are not making anymoney and actually have like
they're.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, this is what it is.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
What it is, the people at the top are making
money off of the people at thebottom.
Reps like it's.
The product is not making themoney company the company money
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So yeah, you had to pay like $3,000.
In the documentary I rememberseeing that people were like
forking over their entiresavings and stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, so I think is I think, as long as it's like a
specific percentage is your, doyou have to have a certain
percentage of your income comingfrom your actual product to not
be a pyramid scheme?
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So I think, I think what's up on the scheme.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Some of these things toe a really like thin line
because I think there's a lot ofMLMs that probably make like
probably like very close to meoff of like yeah, like they're
making, but you do, you don'thave to pay to be a rep, right?
No, but you pay you.
There is like a on boarding fee, like you pay like $80 for,
like your website URL, okay, andthen they give you like a
(15:00):
massive discount $80 is sodifferent than, oh yeah, $3,000.
And then you get a dislike if alot of people just sign up as a
rep, because they get like areally huge discount for signing
up as a rep that you wouldn'tget otherwise.
Okay, but then you don't loseany money really if you don't
continue to sell.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So it's it.
I liked it.
I just like got to the pointwhere I I like sold to everyone
I knew and didn't have anyinterest in like knocking on
doors and selling to people Ididn't know.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's funny think saying that, because I think
back, our grandma sold a Ava andshe was like Mary Kay, she was
a big.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
She was a big Ava yeah, she got to go to Greece
with them.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah she got some diamonds from them.
She didn't get the Cadillac.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, but she.
I have the diamond ring thatshe won from Ava dude.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I didn't know.
She went to Greece.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
She was like a high roller Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Can we talk about the Ava store on the road that you
live on?
Yeah, what?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
is that I don't know.
I pass it every day.
We should go someday.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We should.
We'll do some recon, becauseevery time I pass it I'm like
either it's these rich, theselike rich old ladies that are
running this and making moneyoff of all the ladies facade or
it is a yes.
It's like laundering some.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I have no idea.
It's very odd, but yeah,there's like a little tiny
storefront.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Of an Ava store and it's got like fake plants galore
inside it.
It's very interesting and likethe lights are always shining
bright on all the product.
Like you can look in thewindows from the street and see
all the Ava product in there.
It's so and like how is thislong has that product been
sitting there?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I know right, I thought it went out of business.
People use Ava.
Is it a museum?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
People still use Mary Kay.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Like big time I okay, but I was going to tell you.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Did I ever tell you?
Mimi?
Facebook message me when I shefound out I was selling beauty
counter with all her sales tips.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No wait that's so sweet it was.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
It was like make sure you make the sale in the room.
It was like old school salestips.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I wonder I could still find the message.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, it was cute, sweet Mimi, she's sales lady.
I got roped into a Mary Kay.
I feel like it's happened toall of us, but I had a Mary Kay
party.
She went to church with me.
I went, I was the only onethere and she did her whole
pitch, mayor, just to me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Mayor.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I bought a sample size mascara Wait, wait, wait
wait.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Oh God Was?
Were other people invited?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, and they just didn't know.
One showed up who I just Idon't love.
I don't like to be flaky.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So I know well, good for you and you bought something
, but I'm sad for her and you Iwas.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
It was like I was sitting there, like I can't
believe this is actuallyhappening.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
There was this phase.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
She did the whole pitch, like I was, like there
was 20 people in the room.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Good for her.
She was like this is goodpractice for me.
I know, there was this phasewhere, like people were like
selling chocolate, chocolate andthey were called like
chocolateeers.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
When was this?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Like when I was in right after high school I guess
Chocolate it was like chocolate.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Are you sure it wasn't like the fundraiser you
do in high school?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No, because those were delicious.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I come home with a box of chocolate bars and I'm
pretty sure I bought like halfof my own inventory.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like Mom, can I have $20?
For what?
Nothing, it's like for your ownbox of chocolate.
No, I, oh my gosh, I will sayone time my ex-boyfriend stole a
giant Costco.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
The one that sold the ladies silver.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No, this is a different one, the owl guy.
Yeah, he went to a kid'sbirthday party His boss's kid's
birthday party and took homeCostco boxes of chips like
they's chips.
I don't know if he sold them orthe boss gave them to him.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
How do you casually walk out of a party with a
Costco sized box of chips?
Maybe the boss gave them to him.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Chips, okay, I don't really remember, but all I know
is that he gave them to me and Itook them to school and I sold
them and I made like 40 bucks.
We had so many chips.
I was selling chips for liketwo months.
It was great.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
With zero investment.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Zero investment, not full profit.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Full profit Good for you Off of a kid's birthday
party Costco box of chips.
Who were you selling to?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Anyone that needed snacks.
That's amazing I would just putlike 10 in my backpack and I'd
sell like almost all of themevery day.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Why weren't people going to vending machines?
I think I was cheaper.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think I like, did it smart Good for you.
Thanks, entrepreneurial bitch.
Can't even say the word, didyou have a business name?
No, I should have.
What would it have been?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
My creative juices are not currently flowing.
I thought Chippy girl.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Good one.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Oh man, oh okay.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Well, to end it, if you could start an MLM, what
would you do?
Like?
What product would I sell?
Yeah, and who would be-.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I am friends with a person who married someone who
is very wealthy and his dad madeall the money, or he was like
an early buy-in in a pyramidscheme.
It's like a pyramid scheme thatyou hear about in all the
documentaries, and he was one ofthe early adopters.
(20:59):
I honestly don't know the nameand what they sold was kind of
random Interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But they're doing very well and they've like he
didn't have to pay back any ofthe money.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean, if you get in early, you only make money.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, but I mean they found out it was a pyramid
scheme, he didn't have to getsued or pay anything, because I
think Lula Roe people got sued.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
And he wasn't an owner.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
He was just like a salesperson.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Those people were so strange?
Oh yeah, they were so weird, soweird, and they were like
Christians and had no idea thatthey were doing anything wrong.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, they were volunteering tobe on the documentary.
It was so weird.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yes, it was so odd.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, but okay, what would yours be?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I think mine would be-.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I wouldn't want to do anything that has to do with
like health, because that's toorisky.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I always think that I had likeall the good ideas are already
gone, but people think of newstuff all the time.
You could do like MLMs ofterrariums with snails in them.
Oh my gosh, you could sell bugsfor terrariums.
What I'm looking at, yourterrarium, but I'm thinking
(22:16):
about I'm thinking about bugs.
Well, I'm thinking Can youthink about the store houses I'd
have to keep?
I'm thinking about your friendthat was like I don't know where
to get the bugs for myterrarium.
I don't want to keep the bugsyou could have.
Can you imagine all the snails?
It'd be kind of cute.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't want that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, do snails eat?
By the way, Because Decomposingthings?
Because you gave me that snailin the terrarium and he came out
looking for food today and Iwas like I think he just needs
to stir it, he'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, they'll like.
I think they like suck on dirt,poor snail.
No, they eat decomposing things, so they eat like-.
So I need to put something deadin there, put a piece of fruit
in there Like they'll eat astrawberry and you can put a
little calcium powder on it ifyou've wanted to give them a
little treat.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't have calcium powder.
Can I just stick a Tums inthere?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
No, A Tums that's calcium.
Yes, oh, maybe.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's why mom loves them.
She's like it gets rid of yourtummy ache and it's got extra
calcium for your bones.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I heard her say that she said that to me like three
weeks ago.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, I don't want to sell bugson an MLM model.
I don't want to do that.
That is solving a non problem.
Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This is going off track one more time, but do you
remember what was the placecalled the pet store in our
hometown?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Roy's Aquarium.
Roy's Aquarium yeah, disgustingNightmares.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I bought rats from there in high school.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Why.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I didn't realize it.
They were like Feeding rats.
Like the ones that snakes eat.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So I like, wanted it to be my little pet.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
But is there a difference between one's snakes
eat and one's better pets?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I don't know, but he would smoke inside of the shop.
So like all the pets were likenot well.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We bought these rats and it was me and my two friends
and we took them home and daythree they all started like
bleeding out of their mouths andbuttholes and mom and dad were
out of town and I had to likefigure out what to do with my
internally bleeding pet rat.
They probably hit a canker, andI had literally call Uncle Rand
(24:22):
, who lives next door, our uncle, to be like.
Can you please help me get ridof these rats, because I I would
have just like put them downthe hill.
Mayor, I couldn't.
I saw some like.
If you would have seen it.
It like is still in my head.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I don't know, don't describe it.
This is spooky.
Season is over.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So, anyways, talk about being held accountable,
roy yeah.
Roy, you gave lots of animalscancer with your smoking inside
of your pet store.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That place was creepy .
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And mom would take us there for like fun.
Before it got weird, the Beaverwas a small town.
That wasn't what we had.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
That and Walmart, okay well what's your?
Mlm.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I don't know, Maybe like I don't know, Maybe like I
keep thinking of something thatalready exists.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
When I watched a lot of Shark Tank I had business
ideas come out the wazoo and Idon't watch Shark Tank anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What was your business?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I don't remember any of them.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I remember thinking that I like as a kid I was like
I saw a car wreck one time and Isaw this girl's face that was
super scratched up and I waslike, oh my gosh, the airbag
hurts worse than the caraccident.
I'm gonna make fluffy, cushy,sheepskin airbag covers.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I was like that's what's fit inside of the car.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
For invention convention and I remember mom
just being like no, or like shejust like shot it down real fast
.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You know what mine was and I still stand by this.
I designed and modeled out ofthat foam clay.
This will be.
This is how we're gonna roundout this episode.
Okay, this is an idea and I'mpretty sure I won honorable
mention.
Okay, it was a little likething you put around your
toothbrush, so when you'rebrushing your teeth as a kid,
your like spit doesn't drip downon your hand Apparently that
(26:17):
was an issue for me, yeah.
But it was like a little cupSensory queen.
Yeah, it was a sensory thing,for sure.
And also why was I drooling downmy hand when I?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
was brushing my teeth .
I don't know, but I rememberthat and I remember thinking
like you're brilliant.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I still am like that was a pretty smart idea, Should
have gone to patent.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I know, anyway, you should have, anyways, that can
be your MLAs.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And I remember actually the guy who won just
put handles on a surfboard and Ithought that's dumb and I'm
pretty sure you just won becauseyour project is the biggest and
that it was freaking Wait why?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
What were the handles for?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
To hold on, so you don't fall off your surfboard.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That defeats the whole purpose.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I know I'm still mad about it, like literally he just
won because he brought in thebiggest thing, and that is how
the world goes around.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Was he a white male?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Also how the world goes around.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Just yep, all right Well if you guys have any MLM
ideas, let us know.
We're investing.
Just kidding, I don't have anymoney.
See you next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
See you next Tuesday Bye.
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