January 21, 2025 • 30 mins
How did we fare with our New Year resolutions last year, and what are our goals for the Year of the Snake? We reflect on what we achieved (and didn’t) with our resolutions and whether we've set our sights on the year 2025. Reminiscing on our past milestone birthdays, we share our thoughts on the emotional and physical changes of our 30s and 40s. From cultural traditions like Japan's Seijin Shiki (Coming of Age Ceremony) when one turns 20 to our musings on style and aging gracefully, we discuss how we feel as we navigate life's major milestones.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I gotta get you out of my system.
I gotta get you off of my mind.
But how do I move on when noone compares?
They only keep me occupied.
I gotta break these chains thatbind me.
I try to shake them off sodesperately but you pull them
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tighter, string me along.
It's sad, but I'm so gone.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Happy New Year everyone.
It's 2025, the year of snake,according to the Chinese zodiac,
For those who are bornobviously this year 2025, 2013,
2001, 1989, 1977.
I think Sumi's husband was bornthat year, so he was born the
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year of snake.
Do we know anyone else?
Wasn't our grandmother also?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, I'm probably wrong.
Yeah, I don't know Anyway yayto the year of snake.
So before we get into our topicabout birthday milestones, I
wanted to ask you guys how youthink you did on your resolution
from last year or your goal ofthe year.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Well, I think mine was controlling my tongue and I
already blew up on you, sothat's on who?
You me, so uh-huh so I but what?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
but wasn't your resolution like, not used to
harsh, like harsh words to yourkids?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
oh, well then I don't think it was kids specifically.
That's a little gap in general?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
maybe in general, or maybe if we're kids, I don't
know, but in general I thinkI've gotten much better for sure
.
But what else is my resolution?
Was that it?
That was it?
Yeah, that's so bad that Idon't remember my resolution.
So, yeah, that was my update.
That was short.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, Anything.
What about your goal this year?
Do you have one tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I don't have a resolution.
I don't.
Honestly, I don't feel like weeven thought about it when we
got together this recently.
You know we didn't discuss it,so it didn't really cross my
mind actually.
Um, but I am just doing the 21days of fast with my church
where, you know, I'm just givingup certain things you know,
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like alcohol, right now for 21days.
I just decided to.
You can do anything, likeanything.
You can give up anything, andit usually should be something
that is going to better you.
You know, yeah, and in the pastI've done like social media,
but I was like I'm not even intosocial media at all and I
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probably should be a little bit,so I know what's going on more,
but I was not going to do thatthis time.
Um, I said, well, maybe I couldjust give up games that I have
on my phone as an escape.
Sometimes that I do, you know,like my mind to escape.
So I deleted that and then justbasically waking up in the
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morning and first thing, readinglike Bible plan, like verses
and stuff, and then doingprayers, and that's how I start
the day for 21 days, and I meanI do that in general anyway, but
it's kind of nice to reallyreally do it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So is it just 21 days , or do you reset after 21 days
to something new for another 21days, or is it just-.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
This challenge with church is just 21 days Okay.
But like a lot of people willsay like they'll give up sweets
if they are like so addicted toeating sweets or give up social
media.
You know people that areaddicted to social media and
stuff and then when you cravethose sweets or whatever those
things that you were kind ofused to, that's not doing
anything for you.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You just turn to prayer, basically but I see,
yeah, and how is it working?
So far it's working very well.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I guess it's only been how many well I didn't
start on january 1st, okay, um,our church just started like
this past weekend is it for youand your entire family, or is it
just you?
it's for anybody that wants toparticipate and you don't need
to, like you know, announceyourself.
This is I'm doing it, this iswhat I'm going to fast.
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You don't need to do any ofthat, it's just for yourself.
So if you choose to, you can.
And in the past, what I've donewas like I've completely fasted
.
Food for the first three days,so no food at all, Just like
liquids.
Food for the first three days,so no food at all, just like
liquids.
Oh, my goodness, that's so hard, that's very hard.
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And and then?
But then it makes you realizelike, wow, there's people in
this world that you know don'tchoose to have this hunger but,
they're lacking food.
It's just like makes you think alot like wow, there's people
not by choice, you knowexperience starvation.
Yeah, but this time I was likeI'm not, I'm not gonna do the
three-day complete fast yeah,that sounds like a lot yeah, and
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I don't want to pass out eitherbecause I'm kind of busy.
You know, like I don't, I needfood, I need fuel.
So jesus supposedly fasted 40days with no food or water, yeah
, and he got to the point wherehe was like so delirious and,
you know, was tempted.
But he turned to prayer andwithout water, like oh my gosh,
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I don't I think people would die.
You know, normal human.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, what about you, sumi?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
My last year's resolution was to read 50 books
in a year.
How did you do?
I didn't achieve that goal, butI think I have a pretty good
excuse.
What was the excuse?
Well, okay, so first off, Istarted off pretty good.
I was reading like five to sixbooks a month, I think.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's pretty good.
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I was at a very good pace.
I was like this is going to bereally easy.
But then I started a new job.
I work as a freelancer, so Ihad already had contracted with
two companies.
I got a new contract withanother company in April and
that was pretty demanding.
Well, it wasn't reallydemanding, it was like consuming
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time consuming, and it was acompany in the US, so I would
get paid in US dollars.
And the rate right now is reallygood.
So US dollars from Japanese yenis really good right now, so
that motivated me to work harder.
So that's my first excuse,which is not a very good one.
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But my second excuse is I thinkit's a pretty good one.
It's because I got pregnant,yay.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yay, and the due date is.
When's the due date?
Oh, june 28th.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
June 28th, amazing.
So you're, how many weeks now?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
16 weeks, 16 weeks, yeah, 16 weeks, yeah, and I will
find out the gender in the nextappointment, which is in three
weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So that's pretty exciting, that is super exciting
yeah, so my morning sicknesswas really bad.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, it wasn't really morning sickness, it was
like throughout the day, so thatkind of that sounds like an
excuse, samia.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, but it's a good excuse.
You should have read 50 books.
How many did you read?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
yeah, while she's throwing up, yeah yeah, I
counted, so I read 39 books.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
39, that's pretty good yeah that, that's pretty
darn good yeah.
So how long do you think youread Like how many months do you
think you read 39 books?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think maybe like till July.
So January to July, that'spretty good.
Yeah, so I was sure I was gonnamake it like 50 books was gonna
be really easy for me.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But yeah, you were very, very confident about doing
it I remember.
Yeah, what about your goalsthis year?
Do you have one?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, I didn't really think about it, but well, I
guess I should start eating Morehealthy, healthier than usual
Healthier.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I think you will like automatically, without putting
in too much effort, once youhave a baby.
I think so, like yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I think it's kind of hard also because, you know,
during pregnancy you havedifferent cravings, like I
craved not that I ate horribly,but there were things that I
craved like chocolate cake, ohmy God.
I also craved Minute Maid, 100%pomegranate, blueberry juice.
Those are the two things that Icrave during pregnancy.
I mean they're not unhealthy,but it was unhealthy.
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How many times I wanted them.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
My recent craving was Mountain Dew, but I got over
that phase, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So it's kind of difficult to eat healthier, I
feel, when your body wantssomething else, especially when
you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's not like I've been eating unhealthy, it's just
that I guess I eat too muchsweets.
Well, not that much, but Ithink you like eating sweets.
Yeah, I enjoy it pretty much,yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I like savory so I like chips and stuff more.
But yeah, yeah, I like savory,so I like chips and stuff more.
But yeah, me too.
Yeah, I mean, when you have thecraving matt and I emptied the
vending machine near you for themountain dew, did you really
empty it?
Late night run, yeah, we werelike, oh no, it's sold out.
Now we emptied it out becausesimi said that it's not easy to,
you know, get mountain dew inthe area or something.
(09:40):
Yeah, in Japan, oh, in Japan ingeneral.
Yeah, yeah, but the vendingmachine kind of close to her
place.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Which was a miracle, has.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Mountain Dew.
So Matt and I were like allright, we'll go, We'll go get it
.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Now that you say that , I did notice there weren't
that many soda, american soda.
I guess that was in vendingmachines, Like Coca-Cola, wasn't
even.
They usually have Coke.
I didn't really see Coca-Cola.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Okay, they usually have Coke, but that's about it.
I would say or Sprite.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean, there's always Fanta, but Fanta's not
from Japan, but that seems likethe most popular.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
The Dr Pepper Mountain Dew is pretty rare Dr
Pepper here was also rare.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Cody, you liked Dr Pepper, right.
Yeah, I used to always hate it.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It tastes like I don't know why, me too, I don't
know why I got so into it.
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I haven't had soda in like years.
I don't even know when it waslast time I had it.
That's what I loved, like Ilove Dr Pepper, but I loved,
like I loved, downton.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Tuffer, what was your New Year's resolution?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So mine was read books also, but 12, like once a
month.
And guess what I did achieve it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
How many did you read ?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I read 14.
But I think, because I wasexcited, I read 14.
I kind of towards the end.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Like the last months, I didn't read anything.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So once I hit the goal I realized, wait, I read 14
, because I made a list of howmany I've read.
I think that's when I kind ofreached the goal and I just
didn't read.
It wasn't a burnout necessarily, it wasn't very difficult.
Once I got used to it Irealized that you know, okay,
this is a habit that I can keep.
I was grateful that you gave mesome suggestions.
I had a couple of friends whogave me suggestions, so that was
really nice.
So for this year I would stilllike to try to continue once a
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month.
I am reading a book right now.
So let's see.
It's a slow start but we'll seehow that goes.
And then what I would like todo this year is eat more plant
based foods, so like reallycommit once a week, one meal a
week at least.
So using no meat, sometimes nodairy.
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I don't want to say like veganmeal, but vegetarian or vegan,
because I know that that's alittle bit difficult.
So once a week.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Is there a reason why you want to do that?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I guess it's another way to experiment with food,
because I like to cook and alsoI know it's good for you to eat
more beans and legumes and otherthings which I don't typically
eat or cook, like chickpeas andlentils, and you know, those
things I don't really eat.
So I think if I can find arecipe that I like, I think it
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will be good.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
It's also learning new recipes, I guess you should
try sometime, maybe next year,trying to cook one ethnic dish.
You've never had a month.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's a cool idea, yeah, so last year I also did
like a meatless Monday thing.
So for dinner I used to makejust plant-based or vegetarian
meals.
It was very inconsistent, likesometimes I remember to do it,
sometimes I didn't, so this yearI want to make it at least once
a week.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, I remember you talking about it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, and I'm not going to commit to a day because
I realized I have to reallyplan it out.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Wait, I have a stupid question.
Yeah, do vegetarians eat?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
fish.
No, so they eat dairy.
So you know eggs, milk, cheeseand all this Vegans don't, so
they don't eat any dairy,Anything that comes from animals
.
Right, so that's more vegan,yeah, and I do have like a few
vegan recipe books which I haveopened here and there and I have
cooked out of them, but I thinkI want to get into a little bit
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more this year, like once aweek.
So that's my goal.
And I also want to just onemore thing, because I do like to
cook.
I wanted to make anotherfermented food.
So either kimchi, sauerkrautbecause I got into making natto,
you know.
So that's something that Ilearned and I want I'm
continuing.
I say kimchi, yeah.
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So I told Christoph, I said,hey, we live in Germany.
So I was thinking sauerkrautand Christoph dislikes
sauerkraut.
I love sauerkraut, but he'slike I don't like it.
And I I said, since we live inGermany, I feel like I should
know how to make sauerkraut.
And he was like, oh, I don'tcare Like if you make it or not
you know, so I think I will trykimchi this year.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, try a neggi kimchi that I've always wanted,
yeah that's true.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh, neggi kimchi, that's true, which I love.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I've never had it.
And Cody was supposed to makeit when she visited, but then we
realized you need bulk andbulks of green onion.
We don't really have anythinglike that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
So I want to maybe start with the easier ones.
I've made coconut yogurtmultiple times when I was trying
to figure out what was wrongwith cake?
With stomach issue, yeah, but.
And even made like what was it?
Whipped cream, like thing fromcoconut, everything like coconut
, but like it was so timeconsuming.
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I was like no, this is not mything.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, do you make it from extra coconut or coconut?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
milk from a coconut juice I did it from a can.
Okay, coconut milk, but we dobecause I'm in florida.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I could probably access, but that's even more
time consuming no yeah to crackone open even like you need a
machete, like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's coconut milk
right, and not coconut water.
Coconut milk, yeah, I think itwas coconut milk.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's been years, I don't remember, but I remember I
had to set it away and just letit ferment.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I also thought about doing miso, but it takes months
and months until you see theresults.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So maybe I'll do that next year.
You do what you want.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, so those are my goals.
You have so many goals?
Yeah, well, it's not bad.
I mean, it's just you know it'sa good thing.
Yeah, like continue once amonth book reading, which wasn't
so bad, and then once a weekone meal a week at least, like
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vegetarian or vegan meal andthen learn how to make kimchi.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That sounds achievable do you remember
okasan used to make kimchi.
Um no, or make kimchi, youremember?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I remember she used to make the what they call like
washed out kimchi, like whiteversion you know like, yeah,
kind, you know like mom used tomake, yeah kind of.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Just like pickled.
She also used to make shiokararight Oto-san was really into
shiokara, yeah, because ourgrandfather was.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Okasan did make it some, but then she was like I
don't even like to eat thisstuff, so I don't want to make
it anymore.
And then Oto, my father,started making it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
How do you describe that?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's a squid and you use every part of squid pretty
much because you squeeze out theorgans and stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
That's what the sauce is made from.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, I remember I used to watch my father make it
and the squid is cooked?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, it's raw.
Does it get cooked?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
No, oh, cooked in it Possibly, maybe somehow it's
like, maybe like some type ofcitrus is added from its gut, I
don't know.
To keep it, I'm sure you haveto consume it fairly quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, if it's like homemade, I think his dad used
to make it at home a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So he must have learned it.
Yeah, so our brother has turned30 this past December.
That's his milestone birthday.
We've gone through 30s already.
Well, for Sumi not quite, but,and since Sumi's 40th is coming
up this year, in 2025.
Are there things looking backor any milestone birthdays that
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you remember or any thoughtsthat you had?
I?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
remember I was not looking forward to turning 30 at
all because I felt like goingfrom 20s to 30s made it official
Like metal age woman, yes, youknow like, oh, I'm not cool
anymore, right.
But then turning from 30 to 40,I was so excited I couldn't
wait to turn 40.
(18:02):
The reason why is because Iwanted to look like a younger.
If I told somebody I'm in my30s and they're like, oh, you
look kind of old, right, Iwanted to be able to be like I'm
in my 40s and people think shelooks pretty good for her 40.
So I couldn't wait to turn 40.
I remember.
But also my another thoughtabout 30s for me was like at
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around age 35 is when I reallystarted to notice a change in my
body where gravity started totake place and things were
starting to sag, and not that Iwas trying to lose weight, but
if I did gain extra, losingweight was so much harder, to
put on muscles was so muchharder.
Much harder to put on muscleswas so much harder.
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But 35 was that really.
You remember this.
I remember it specificallybecause I remember thinking, wow
, what a change.
So that age was 35 for me waslike I had to work harder.
What was easy before, I had towork a lot harder to achieve
what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, do you think that's possible in the 40s?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I'm maintaining it, so it hasn't been that hard.
You know like I've beenconsistently working out and
trying to eat healthy, so it'snot as hard.
But I think if I gave up, youknow it'll be hard to get back
on.
Yeah, like a lot harder to getback on.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
guys.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, for me, 30s, I think, when I turned 30, I still
remember to this day Lucas tookhis first step on my 30th
birthday and he was.
He was 18 months.
Right, it was 18 months kind oflate, I didn't know that was
your 30th birthday, wow.
Yeah, it was on my birthday.
I was working and no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I knew it was your birthday, but I didn't know it
was your 30th birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, before that.
So I went into work as usualand my desk where I worked it
was kind of like an open concept.
I faced somebody.
There was somebody next to meand I was on the edge and I
walked in and I saw this liketoilet paper just covered on my
desk.
It was actually.
It started on the ceiling too.
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It was just completely justcovered.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Why.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I was it was for my birthday Like somebody
pranked, like my desk on mybirthday.
On your birthday, yeah yeah.
So I went in and I was likewhat the heck?
It was on the third floor and Ihad to walk pretty far.
It was at the end of thebuilding.
So as I was walking I wasthinking what the heck is going
on over there, Pretty open, so Icould see what was happening.
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But then as I got closer I'mlike wait, that's my desk.
Why is my desk covered intoilet paper?
And so as I got closer Inoticed there was a cake, and
then there was just completelycovered.
There was no message oranything and I was like, oh my
gosh, it wasn't like super earlyin the morning, but it was.
It must have been like 830,almost nine, and it was a few of
my friends who I worked withwho has actually toilet papered
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the desk.
I don't know if they did it thenight before or they did it
earlier in the morning and theybrought a cake.
So that was really, really nice.
Then that afternoon I got avideo from our son's daycare of
him.
I think I didn't even have aniPhone back then, it wasn't even
a smartphone, I feel like itwas a flip phone.
So the resolution was bad, butI saw five seconds of him like
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taking steps, and he was 18months at the time and I started
to worry because usually babiesstart walking around one right,
or some kids yeah, some kidswalk much earlier.
And so I was starting to worrybecause he showed no interest,
Like he didn't even like takesteps.
He always used his hands tostand up and he would stand, but
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he just refused to accept.
So we were concerned.
But I got that short video andI was like, oh my gosh, he's a
little bit taking steps.
And then next thing I know, Iwent home and I took him to a
grocery store because we had ashop or something and I saw him
just take many, many steps and Ithought, oh my gosh, where was
he hiding all this?
So it was so great becauseobviously it was my birthday and
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I will forever remember itbecause it was my 30th.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, it was really really nice.
And then for my 40th birthdaywe were in Spain, so that was
also really nice.
We rented a house outside ofMadrid and I was there with a
couple of friends from Geneva.
It was very low-key, but it hada pool outside and it was
summer, because my birthday isin summer, so the weather was
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beautiful, no complaints.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
That's nice Sumi.
What are your thoughts onturning 40 here soon?
Are you excited and wrapping up30s Well you're surrounded by a
lot of old people in yourneighborhood, in your community.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Much older people, Much older.
So you still feel young?
I'm sure I don't really.
Well, obviously, when youcompare yourself with
70-year-olds, 80-year-olds Ihope you feel much younger.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, I don't really have any thoughts on turning 40.
I've never really had any.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, it'll be exciting because you'll have a
baby, yeah, so that's a goodstart of your 40s, I would say.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
What about 30s a baby ?
Yeah, so that's a good start ofyour 40s.
I would say what about?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't, I don't really remember what I did when
I turned 30 or 20, but I wasstill on birthdays.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, you don't remember.
You don't remember turning 30,like what you thought.
I was like, so devastated.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm sogoing to be uncool in my
thirties.
I know it.
I hate it, I hate the thoughtof it.
But forties for me was soexciting, like, yeah, I feel
like forties felt better thanturning 30.
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Yeah, I felt like I was soready to be in my forties
because I just want to be theyoung 40s like a fit 40s person.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Actually, I do remember when I turned 20.
Well, not the exact moment thatI turned 20, but in Japan we
have the Seijin Shiki which islike the coming of age ceremony,
celebration of adulthood.
Yeah, so that I kind ofremember.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I just heard that 18-year-olds are now considered
adults in Japan too, even thoughit used to be 20.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So, but you actually have the formal ceremonial
celebration.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
When you turn 20.
, 20.
And what do you?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
do, or what did you do?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, we wore these traditional.
It's kind of like a kimono, butit's called hakama and furisode
for women, different type ofkimono.
I guess you could say yeah Well, girls will wear those.
Usually you don't have to, butusually you would.
And guys will wear suits orhakama and we get our hair done,
(24:49):
makeup done.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Wait.
So what is a hakama?
And we get our hair done makeup.
So what is the hakama?
Again, it's like kimono, butit's not.
How is it different?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
you know, for kimono you just take one cloth and you
just wrap it around, basically ahakama, you have a top and a
bottom, oh, separate oh it'sseparate it's separate, yeah oh,
now that I think about it.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Oh really, so it essentially looks similar to
kimono from the outside.
Is it less formal than kimono?
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
okay, so you wear that and you put makeup on, you
get your hair done, and thenwhat do you do?
And you go to your um localvenue okay, I don't really
remember.
I was gonna say you werealready at the university, so
it's not like you were leavingat home so you went back.
You went back to our parentshome yeah for it.
(25:45):
Yeah, okay, is that so typicallypeople celebrate with family I
don't know, with your friendsthe people that you graduated
with the high school oh, I see,yeah, if you went to your local
high school, but you didn't,right wait, I don't remember
she's making stuff up.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Oh no, no, yeah, because I took up.
This is all untrue.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Because I took a picture with Mi-chan, who's?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
the neighbor.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, from our hometown Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Got it.
So you went home to celebratewith high school or not high
school necessarily, but yourneighbors and such that makes
sense.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I should do a little more research on this, because I
don't really remember it's okay, that was long ago.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It wasn't like yesterday, almost 20 years ago.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Make it right with the next podcast if it was
totally off, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, that's cool.
Yeah, because in Japan it usedto be that you're officially
become an adult at age 20.
Like the drinking age is 20.
I think smoking also 20.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Right, yeah, you have to be 20 to smoke.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, I'm far away.
Obviously, I'm going to be thefirst to reach 50.
But I'm definitely not lookingforward to be in the 50s.
I feel like our body's gonnachange a lot in 40s.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'm not looking forward to it, like it's
something that we cannot avoid,like we might not be able to
read magazines without using theglasses or oh, that happened
for matt in his 30s early 30syeah, but it's coming up and
also you know other hormonalchanges in the body oh yeah,
(27:32):
that's not exciting, but I don'tthink I mind anymore after 40s
I feel like it's whatever yeah,well, let's see how we feel, or
once we get there, but I'mdefinitely not looking forward
to it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Did you just say 40?
You mean 50?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
or latter 40s to 50s.
I don't think I'll mind it.
I have a feeling I'll still berocking heels and looking
fabulous, hopefully.
Yeah, I'm thinking of likecertain haircut when I'm like
much older yeah, like when likereally short, like pixie cut
(28:08):
even shorter, shorter, but whenI'm much, much older and I've
always Like pixie cut Shorterprobably.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Shorter than a pixie cut.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Possible shaving needed, kind of Is what I've
always, and I want to rock somebig earrings, but when I'm older
, much older, when I rock allwhite hair, hopefully, uh-huh,
but matt hates short hair, so ifhe's still around then I may
(28:40):
have to reconsider you meanyou're talking like much, much
later, much, much later.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Okay, yeah, I feel like it's much easier if it's
shorter too.
But I stopped dyeing my hairand I have a lot of gray hair,
as you know.
But it's so much easier nowbecause I don't have to dye
every couple of weeks and Iactually started having gray
hair in my twenties, like earlytwenties, yeah.
(29:06):
So it's so much easier now Idon't have to.
But sometimes I wake up and go,oh my gosh, I kind of want to
dye my hair, but then when Ithink about it, should I do it?
It's like gosh.
It took me like two, threeyears to actually have it
completely like dye free.
I'm always like, okay, maybe Ishouldn't, but never know, maybe
(29:27):
in my 60s, 70s, I decide, heck,I'm so sick of gray hair, I'm
gonna dye it.
I don't know we'll see if youstill have hair, if I still have
hair, that's correct.
Yeah, and I do have a lot of it, luckily, so hopefully, yes
yeah that's another thing,
Speaker 3 (29:46):
wait, um, I want to make a correction, okay, go
ahead um.
I said that you only wear itwith Hakama.
I just remembered.
You said that you only wear itonce, for your coming of age
ceremony, but you also wear iton your graduation.
Oh no, on college.
That's it Really.
(30:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
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Speaker 1 (30:16):
Until next time and all of these games you play.
I should have seen through itright from the start, but I
chose to give it all away.
Bye.
I gotta get you out of my system.
I gotta get you off of my mind.
But how do I move on when noone compares?
They only keep me occupied.
I gotta break these chains thatbind me.
I try to shake them off sodesperately but you pull them
(00:25):
tighter, string me along.
It's sad, but I'm so gone.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Happy New Year everyone.
It's 2025, the year of snake,according to the Chinese zodiac,
For those who are bornobviously this year 2025, 2013,
2001, 1989, 1977.
I think Sumi's husband was bornthat year, so he was born the
(00:54):
year of snake.
Do we know anyone else?
Wasn't our grandmother also?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, I'm probably wrong.
Yeah, I don't know Anyway yayto the year of snake.
So before we get into our topicabout birthday milestones, I
wanted to ask you guys how youthink you did on your resolution
from last year or your goal ofthe year.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Well, I think mine was controlling my tongue and I
already blew up on you, sothat's on who?
You me, so uh-huh so I but what?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
but wasn't your resolution like, not used to
harsh, like harsh words to yourkids?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
oh, well then I don't think it was kids specifically.
That's a little gap in general?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
maybe in general, or maybe if we're kids, I don't
know, but in general I thinkI've gotten much better for sure
.
But what else is my resolution?
Was that it?
That was it?
Yeah, that's so bad that Idon't remember my resolution.
So, yeah, that was my update.
That was short.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Okay, Anything.
What about your goal this year?
Do you have one tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I don't have a resolution.
I don't.
Honestly, I don't feel like weeven thought about it when we
got together this recently.
You know we didn't discuss it,so it didn't really cross my
mind actually.
Um, but I am just doing the 21days of fast with my church
where, you know, I'm just givingup certain things you know,
(02:34):
like alcohol, right now for 21days.
I just decided to.
You can do anything, likeanything.
You can give up anything, andit usually should be something
that is going to better you.
You know, yeah, and in the pastI've done like social media,
but I was like I'm not even intosocial media at all and I
(02:54):
probably should be a little bit,so I know what's going on more,
but I was not going to do thatthis time.
Um, I said, well, maybe I couldjust give up games that I have
on my phone as an escape.
Sometimes that I do, you know,like my mind to escape.
So I deleted that and then justbasically waking up in the
(03:14):
morning and first thing, readinglike Bible plan, like verses
and stuff, and then doingprayers, and that's how I start
the day for 21 days, and I meanI do that in general anyway, but
it's kind of nice to reallyreally do it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So is it just 21 days , or do you reset after 21 days
to something new for another 21days, or is it just-.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
This challenge with church is just 21 days Okay.
But like a lot of people willsay like they'll give up sweets
if they are like so addicted toeating sweets or give up social
media.
You know people that areaddicted to social media and
stuff and then when you cravethose sweets or whatever those
things that you were kind ofused to, that's not doing
anything for you.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You just turn to prayer, basically but I see,
yeah, and how is it working?
So far it's working very well.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I guess it's only been how many well I didn't
start on january 1st, okay, um,our church just started like
this past weekend is it for youand your entire family, or is it
just you?
it's for anybody that wants toparticipate and you don't need
to, like you know, announceyourself.
This is I'm doing it, this iswhat I'm going to fast.
(04:31):
You don't need to do any ofthat, it's just for yourself.
So if you choose to, you can.
And in the past, what I've donewas like I've completely fasted
.
Food for the first three days,so no food at all, Just like
liquids.
Food for the first three days,so no food at all, just like
liquids.
Oh, my goodness, that's so hard, that's very hard.
(04:52):
And and then?
But then it makes you realizelike, wow, there's people in
this world that you know don'tchoose to have this hunger but,
they're lacking food.
It's just like makes you think alot like wow, there's people
not by choice, you knowexperience starvation.
Yeah, but this time I was likeI'm not, I'm not gonna do the
three-day complete fast yeah,that sounds like a lot yeah, and
(05:16):
I don't want to pass out eitherbecause I'm kind of busy.
You know, like I don't, I needfood, I need fuel.
So jesus supposedly fasted 40days with no food or water, yeah
, and he got to the point wherehe was like so delirious and,
you know, was tempted.
But he turned to prayer andwithout water, like oh my gosh,
(05:38):
I don't I think people would die.
You know, normal human.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, what about you, sumi?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
My last year's resolution was to read 50 books
in a year.
How did you do?
I didn't achieve that goal, butI think I have a pretty good
excuse.
What was the excuse?
Well, okay, so first off, Istarted off pretty good.
I was reading like five to sixbooks a month, I think.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's pretty good.
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I was at a very good pace.
I was like this is going to bereally easy.
But then I started a new job.
I work as a freelancer, so Ihad already had contracted with
two companies.
I got a new contract withanother company in April and
that was pretty demanding.
Well, it wasn't reallydemanding, it was like consuming
(06:26):
time consuming, and it was acompany in the US, so I would
get paid in US dollars.
And the rate right now is reallygood.
So US dollars from Japanese yenis really good right now, so
that motivated me to work harder.
So that's my first excuse,which is not a very good one.
(06:47):
But my second excuse is I thinkit's a pretty good one.
It's because I got pregnant,yay.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yay, and the due date is.
When's the due date?
Oh, june 28th.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
June 28th, amazing.
So you're, how many weeks now?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
16 weeks, 16 weeks, yeah, 16 weeks, yeah, and I will
find out the gender in the nextappointment, which is in three
weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So that's pretty exciting, that is super exciting
yeah, so my morning sicknesswas really bad.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, it wasn't really morning sickness, it was
like throughout the day, so thatkind of that sounds like an
excuse, samia.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, but it's a good excuse.
You should have read 50 books.
How many did you read?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
yeah, while she's throwing up, yeah yeah, I
counted, so I read 39 books.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
39, that's pretty good yeah that, that's pretty
darn good yeah.
So how long do you think youread Like how many months do you
think you read 39 books?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think maybe like till July.
So January to July, that'spretty good.
Yeah, so I was sure I was gonnamake it like 50 books was gonna
be really easy for me.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But yeah, you were very, very confident about doing
it I remember.
Yeah, what about your goalsthis year?
Do you have one?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well, I didn't really think about it, but well, I
guess I should start eating Morehealthy, healthier than usual
Healthier.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I think you will like automatically, without putting
in too much effort, once youhave a baby.
I think so, like yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I think it's kind of hard also because, you know,
during pregnancy you havedifferent cravings, like I
craved not that I ate horribly,but there were things that I
craved like chocolate cake, ohmy God.
I also craved Minute Maid, 100%pomegranate, blueberry juice.
Those are the two things that Icrave during pregnancy.
I mean they're not unhealthy,but it was unhealthy.
(08:53):
How many times I wanted them.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
My recent craving was Mountain Dew, but I got over
that phase, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So it's kind of difficult to eat healthier, I
feel, when your body wantssomething else, especially when
you're pregnant.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's not like I've been eating unhealthy, it's just
that I guess I eat too muchsweets.
Well, not that much, but Ithink you like eating sweets.
Yeah, I enjoy it pretty much,yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I like savory so I like chips and stuff more.
But yeah, yeah, I like savory,so I like chips and stuff more.
But yeah, me too.
Yeah, I mean, when you have thecraving matt and I emptied the
vending machine near you for themountain dew, did you really
empty it?
Late night run, yeah, we werelike, oh no, it's sold out.
Now we emptied it out becausesimi said that it's not easy to,
you know, get mountain dew inthe area or something.
(09:40):
Yeah, in Japan, oh, in Japan ingeneral.
Yeah, yeah, but the vendingmachine kind of close to her
place.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Which was a miracle, has.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Mountain Dew.
So Matt and I were like allright, we'll go, We'll go get it
.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Now that you say that , I did notice there weren't
that many soda, american soda.
I guess that was in vendingmachines, Like Coca-Cola, wasn't
even.
They usually have Coke.
I didn't really see Coca-Cola.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Okay, they usually have Coke, but that's about it.
I would say or Sprite.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean, there's always Fanta, but Fanta's not
from Japan, but that seems likethe most popular.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
The Dr Pepper Mountain Dew is pretty rare Dr
Pepper here was also rare.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Cody, you liked Dr Pepper, right.
Yeah, I used to always hate it.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
It tastes like I don't know why, me too, I don't
know why I got so into it.
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I haven't had soda in like years.
I don't even know when it waslast time I had it.
That's what I loved, like Ilove Dr Pepper, but I loved,
like I loved, downton.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Tuffer, what was your New Year's resolution?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So mine was read books also, but 12, like once a
month.
And guess what I did achieve it.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
How many did you read ?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I read 14.
But I think, because I wasexcited, I read 14.
I kind of towards the end.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Like the last months, I didn't read anything.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So once I hit the goal I realized, wait, I read 14
, because I made a list of howmany I've read.
I think that's when I kind ofreached the goal and I just
didn't read.
It wasn't a burnout necessarily, it wasn't very difficult.
Once I got used to it Irealized that you know, okay,
this is a habit that I can keep.
I was grateful that you gave mesome suggestions.
I had a couple of friends whogave me suggestions, so that was
really nice.
So for this year I would stilllike to try to continue once a
(11:31):
month.
I am reading a book right now.
So let's see.
It's a slow start but we'll seehow that goes.
And then what I would like todo this year is eat more plant
based foods, so like reallycommit once a week, one meal a
week at least.
So using no meat, sometimes nodairy.
(11:54):
I don't want to say like veganmeal, but vegetarian or vegan,
because I know that that's alittle bit difficult.
So once a week.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Is there a reason why you want to do that?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I guess it's another way to experiment with food,
because I like to cook and alsoI know it's good for you to eat
more beans and legumes and otherthings which I don't typically
eat or cook, like chickpeas andlentils, and you know, those
things I don't really eat.
So I think if I can find arecipe that I like, I think it
(12:27):
will be good.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
It's also learning new recipes, I guess you should
try sometime, maybe next year,trying to cook one ethnic dish.
You've never had a month.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
That's a cool idea, yeah, so last year I also did
like a meatless Monday thing.
So for dinner I used to makejust plant-based or vegetarian
meals.
It was very inconsistent, likesometimes I remember to do it,
sometimes I didn't, so this yearI want to make it at least once
a week.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, I remember you talking about it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, and I'm not going to commit to a day because
I realized I have to reallyplan it out.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Wait, I have a stupid question.
Yeah, do vegetarians eat?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
fish.
No, so they eat dairy.
So you know eggs, milk, cheeseand all this Vegans don't, so
they don't eat any dairy,Anything that comes from animals
.
Right, so that's more vegan,yeah, and I do have like a few
vegan recipe books which I haveopened here and there and I have
cooked out of them, but I thinkI want to get into a little bit
(13:32):
more this year, like once aweek.
So that's my goal.
And I also want to just onemore thing, because I do like to
cook.
I wanted to make anotherfermented food.
So either kimchi, sauerkrautbecause I got into making natto,
you know.
So that's something that Ilearned and I want I'm
continuing.
I say kimchi, yeah.
(13:53):
So I told Christoph, I said,hey, we live in Germany.
So I was thinking sauerkrautand Christoph dislikes
sauerkraut.
I love sauerkraut, but he'slike I don't like it.
And I I said, since we live inGermany, I feel like I should
know how to make sauerkraut.
And he was like, oh, I don'tcare Like if you make it or not
you know, so I think I will trykimchi this year.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, try a neggi kimchi that I've always wanted,
yeah that's true.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh, neggi kimchi, that's true, which I love.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I've never had it.
And Cody was supposed to makeit when she visited, but then we
realized you need bulk andbulks of green onion.
We don't really have anythinglike that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
So I want to maybe start with the easier ones.
I've made coconut yogurtmultiple times when I was trying
to figure out what was wrongwith cake?
With stomach issue, yeah, but.
And even made like what was it?
Whipped cream, like thing fromcoconut, everything like coconut
, but like it was so timeconsuming.
(14:57):
I was like no, this is not mything.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, do you make it from extra coconut or coconut?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
milk from a coconut juice I did it from a can.
Okay, coconut milk, but we dobecause I'm in florida.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I could probably access, but that's even more
time consuming no yeah to crackone open even like you need a
machete, like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's coconut milk
right, and not coconut water.
Coconut milk, yeah, I think itwas coconut milk.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
It's been years, I don't remember, but I remember I
had to set it away and just letit ferment.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I also thought about doing miso, but it takes months
and months until you see theresults.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
So maybe I'll do that next year.
You do what you want.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, so those are my goals.
You have so many goals?
Yeah, well, it's not bad.
I mean, it's just you know it'sa good thing.
Yeah, like continue once amonth book reading, which wasn't
so bad, and then once a weekone meal a week at least, like
(16:03):
vegetarian or vegan meal andthen learn how to make kimchi.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That sounds achievable do you remember
okasan used to make kimchi.
Um no, or make kimchi, youremember?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I remember she used to make the what they call like
washed out kimchi, like whiteversion you know like, yeah,
kind, you know like mom used tomake, yeah kind of.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Just like pickled.
She also used to make shiokararight Oto-san was really into
shiokara, yeah, because ourgrandfather was.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Okasan did make it some, but then she was like I
don't even like to eat thisstuff, so I don't want to make
it anymore.
And then Oto, my father,started making it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
How do you describe that?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's a squid and you use every part of squid pretty
much because you squeeze out theorgans and stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
That's what the sauce is made from.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, I remember I used to watch my father make it
and the squid is cooked?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, it's raw.
Does it get cooked?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
No, oh, cooked in it Possibly, maybe somehow it's
like, maybe like some type ofcitrus is added from its gut, I
don't know.
To keep it, I'm sure you haveto consume it fairly quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, if it's like homemade, I think his dad used
to make it at home a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
So he must have learned it.
Yeah, so our brother has turned30 this past December.
That's his milestone birthday.
We've gone through 30s already.
Well, for Sumi not quite, but,and since Sumi's 40th is coming
up this year, in 2025.
Are there things looking backor any milestone birthdays that
(17:39):
you remember or any thoughtsthat you had?
I?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
remember I was not looking forward to turning 30 at
all because I felt like goingfrom 20s to 30s made it official
Like metal age woman, yes, youknow like, oh, I'm not cool
anymore, right.
But then turning from 30 to 40,I was so excited I couldn't
wait to turn 40.
(18:02):
The reason why is because Iwanted to look like a younger.
If I told somebody I'm in my30s and they're like, oh, you
look kind of old, right, Iwanted to be able to be like I'm
in my 40s and people think shelooks pretty good for her 40.
So I couldn't wait to turn 40.
I remember.
But also my another thoughtabout 30s for me was like at
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around age 35 is when I reallystarted to notice a change in my
body where gravity started totake place and things were
starting to sag, and not that Iwas trying to lose weight, but
if I did gain extra, losingweight was so much harder, to
put on muscles was so muchharder.
Much harder to put on muscleswas so much harder.
(18:45):
But 35 was that really.
You remember this.
I remember it specificallybecause I remember thinking, wow
, what a change.
So that age was 35 for me waslike I had to work harder.
What was easy before, I had towork a lot harder to achieve
what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, do you think that's possible in the 40s?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I'm maintaining it, so it hasn't been that hard.
You know like I've beenconsistently working out and
trying to eat healthy, so it'snot as hard.
But I think if I gave up, youknow it'll be hard to get back
on.
Yeah, like a lot harder to getback on.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
guys.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, for me, 30s, I think, when I turned 30, I still
remember to this day Lucas tookhis first step on my 30th
birthday and he was.
He was 18 months.
Right, it was 18 months kind oflate, I didn't know that was
your 30th birthday, wow.
Yeah, it was on my birthday.
I was working and no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
I knew it was your birthday, but I didn't know it
was your 30th birthday.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, before that.
So I went into work as usualand my desk where I worked it
was kind of like an open concept.
I faced somebody.
There was somebody next to meand I was on the edge and I
walked in and I saw this liketoilet paper just covered on my
desk.
It was actually.
It started on the ceiling too.
(20:02):
It was just completely justcovered.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Why.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I was it was for my birthday Like somebody
pranked, like my desk on mybirthday.
On your birthday, yeah yeah.
So I went in and I was likewhat the heck?
It was on the third floor and Ihad to walk pretty far.
It was at the end of thebuilding.
So as I was walking I wasthinking what the heck is going
on over there, Pretty open, so Icould see what was happening.
(20:27):
But then as I got closer I'mlike wait, that's my desk.
Why is my desk covered intoilet paper?
And so as I got closer Inoticed there was a cake, and
then there was just completelycovered.
There was no message oranything and I was like, oh my
gosh, it wasn't like super earlyin the morning, but it was.
It must have been like 830,almost nine, and it was a few of
my friends who I worked withwho has actually toilet papered
(20:50):
the desk.
I don't know if they did it thenight before or they did it
earlier in the morning and theybrought a cake.
So that was really, really nice.
Then that afternoon I got avideo from our son's daycare of
him.
I think I didn't even have aniPhone back then, it wasn't even
a smartphone, I feel like itwas a flip phone.
So the resolution was bad, butI saw five seconds of him like
(21:15):
taking steps, and he was 18months at the time and I started
to worry because usually babiesstart walking around one right,
or some kids yeah, some kidswalk much earlier.
And so I was starting to worrybecause he showed no interest,
Like he didn't even like takesteps.
He always used his hands tostand up and he would stand, but
(21:39):
he just refused to accept.
So we were concerned.
But I got that short video andI was like, oh my gosh, he's a
little bit taking steps.
And then next thing I know, Iwent home and I took him to a
grocery store because we had ashop or something and I saw him
just take many, many steps and Ithought, oh my gosh, where was
he hiding all this?
So it was so great becauseobviously it was my birthday and
(22:03):
I will forever remember itbecause it was my 30th.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
That's nice.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, it was really really nice.
And then for my 40th birthdaywe were in Spain, so that was
also really nice.
We rented a house outside ofMadrid and I was there with a
couple of friends from Geneva.
It was very low-key, but it hada pool outside and it was
summer, because my birthday isin summer, so the weather was
(22:29):
beautiful, no complaints.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
That's nice Sumi.
What are your thoughts onturning 40 here soon?
Are you excited and wrapping up30s Well you're surrounded by a
lot of old people in yourneighborhood, in your community.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Much older people, Much older.
So you still feel young?
I'm sure I don't really.
Well, obviously, when youcompare yourself with
70-year-olds, 80-year-olds Ihope you feel much younger.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, I don't really have any thoughts on turning 40.
I've never really had any.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Well, it'll be exciting because you'll have a
baby, yeah, so that's a goodstart of your 40s, I would say.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
What about 30s a baby ?
Yeah, so that's a good start ofyour 40s.
I would say what about?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't, I don't really remember what I did when
I turned 30 or 20, but I wasstill on birthdays.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, you don't remember.
You don't remember turning 30,like what you thought.
I was like, so devastated.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm sogoing to be uncool in my
thirties.
I know it.
I hate it, I hate the thoughtof it.
But forties for me was soexciting, like, yeah, I feel
like forties felt better thanturning 30.
(23:44):
Yeah, I felt like I was soready to be in my forties
because I just want to be theyoung 40s like a fit 40s person.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Actually, I do remember when I turned 20.
Well, not the exact moment thatI turned 20, but in Japan we
have the Seijin Shiki which islike the coming of age ceremony,
celebration of adulthood.
Yeah, so that I kind ofremember.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I just heard that 18-year-olds are now considered
adults in Japan too, even thoughit used to be 20.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
So, but you actually have the formal ceremonial
celebration.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
When you turn 20.
, 20.
And what do you?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
do, or what did you do?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, we wore these traditional.
It's kind of like a kimono, butit's called hakama and furisode
for women, different type ofkimono.
I guess you could say yeah Well, girls will wear those.
Usually you don't have to, butusually you would.
And guys will wear suits orhakama and we get our hair done,
(24:49):
makeup done.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Wait.
So what is a hakama?
And we get our hair done makeup.
So what is the hakama?
Again, it's like kimono, butit's not.
How is it different?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
you know, for kimono you just take one cloth and you
just wrap it around, basically ahakama, you have a top and a
bottom, oh, separate oh it'sseparate it's separate, yeah oh,
now that I think about it.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Oh really, so it essentially looks similar to
kimono from the outside.
Is it less formal than kimono?
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
okay, so you wear that and you put makeup on, you
get your hair done, and thenwhat do you do?
And you go to your um localvenue okay, I don't really
remember.
I was gonna say you werealready at the university, so
it's not like you were leavingat home so you went back.
You went back to our parentshome yeah for it.
(25:45):
Yeah, okay, is that so typicallypeople celebrate with family I
don't know, with your friendsthe people that you graduated
with the high school oh, I see,yeah, if you went to your local
high school, but you didn't,right wait, I don't remember
she's making stuff up.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Oh no, no, yeah, because I took up.
This is all untrue.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Because I took a picture with Mi-chan, who's?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
the neighbor.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, from our hometown Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Got it.
So you went home to celebratewith high school or not high
school necessarily, but yourneighbors and such that makes
sense.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I should do a little more research on this, because I
don't really remember it's okay, that was long ago.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It wasn't like yesterday, almost 20 years ago.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Make it right with the next podcast if it was
totally off, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, that's cool.
Yeah, because in Japan it usedto be that you're officially
become an adult at age 20.
Like the drinking age is 20.
I think smoking also 20.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Right, yeah, you have to be 20 to smoke.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, I'm far away.
Obviously, I'm going to be thefirst to reach 50.
But I'm definitely not lookingforward to be in the 50s.
I feel like our body's gonnachange a lot in 40s.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'm not looking forward to it, like it's
something that we cannot avoid,like we might not be able to
read magazines without using theglasses or oh, that happened
for matt in his 30s early 30syeah, but it's coming up and
also you know other hormonalchanges in the body oh yeah,
(27:32):
that's not exciting, but I don'tthink I mind anymore after 40s
I feel like it's whatever yeah,well, let's see how we feel, or
once we get there, but I'mdefinitely not looking forward
to it.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Did you just say 40?
You mean 50?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
or latter 40s to 50s.
I don't think I'll mind it.
I have a feeling I'll still berocking heels and looking
fabulous, hopefully.
Yeah, I'm thinking of likecertain haircut when I'm like
much older yeah, like when likereally short, like pixie cut
(28:08):
even shorter, shorter, but whenI'm much, much older and I've
always Like pixie cut Shorterprobably.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Shorter than a pixie cut.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Possible shaving needed, kind of Is what I've
always, and I want to rock somebig earrings, but when I'm older
, much older, when I rock allwhite hair, hopefully, uh-huh,
but matt hates short hair, so ifhe's still around then I may
(28:40):
have to reconsider you meanyou're talking like much, much
later, much, much later.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Okay, yeah, I feel like it's much easier if it's
shorter too.
But I stopped dyeing my hairand I have a lot of gray hair,
as you know.
But it's so much easier nowbecause I don't have to dye
every couple of weeks and Iactually started having gray
hair in my twenties, like earlytwenties, yeah.
(29:06):
So it's so much easier now Idon't have to.
But sometimes I wake up and go,oh my gosh, I kind of want to
dye my hair, but then when Ithink about it, should I do it?
It's like gosh.
It took me like two, threeyears to actually have it
completely like dye free.
I'm always like, okay, maybe Ishouldn't, but never know, maybe
(29:27):
in my 60s, 70s, I decide, heck,I'm so sick of gray hair, I'm
gonna dye it.
I don't know we'll see if youstill have hair, if I still have
hair, that's correct.
Yeah, and I do have a lot of it, luckily, so hopefully, yes
yeah that's another thing,
Speaker 3 (29:46):
wait, um, I want to make a correction, okay, go
ahead um.
I said that you only wear itwith Hakama.
I just remembered.
You said that you only wear itonce, for your coming of age
ceremony, but you also wear iton your graduation.
Oh no, on college.
That's it Really.
(30:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Thanks for joining us today.
Don't forget to review SisterVibes and make sure to subscribe
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Speaker 1 (30:16):
Until next time and all of these games you play.
I should have seen through itright from the start, but I
chose to give it all away.
Bye.
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