Episode 1.10: I'm the tip, she's the trick

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All right, y'all, let's gointo the real world.
Yeah, let's do the real world.
Okay, so the election happened.
The election happened on Monday.
No Tuesday. It always happenedon Tuesday. What am I thinking

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that Tuesday the electionhappened on Tuesday and today is
Saturday. And between Tuesdaythe election and Saturday, we
have just been sitting herebiting our nails waiting and
wondering and hoping and wishingYeah, it was really fun. Just
like watching the news. 24seven. And like, every time I

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film I go, like, we got a newnews report breathing and be
like, ah, and then having to goto Trump's Twitter to be like,
What is he saying? And then readall the Twitter comments, make
sure that his followers aren'tgonna start a race riot on it
was really fun. Honestly, Iimagined that this is how people
feel about like, the Superbowllike we were so invested.

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Yeah, no. So I imagine that thisis the way fans of football feel
every year at the Superbowl.
Except times, like a millionbecause it's about human error.
Yeah, I was all like, um,there's a lot, lot, lot more.
But yeah, but I'm saying likeyou're
rooting for your person, thesame guy that people are rooting

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for their team, like, people arelike diehard and I've never,
I've never quite understood thewhole Superbowl thing. Don't
call me people who really careabout the Superbowl. I've never
quite understood it. And I feellike I get it a little bit more.
Because if they have like afraction of the investment that
I have in this election, fortheir football team, and see, I

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always thought like, how canpeople be so invested in so
like, emotionally involved withsport, sports, and then not
really care about real worldissues that you should be
fighting for? Like, for me, I'vealways been like, I don't get it
like that you're not that teamis doing nothing for you. I've
never really understood theconcept of like, being a number

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one diehard fan, like, have ateam and routine and then be
like, yeah, everything's on theline. And like, for me, I'm all
like, that's what you chose. Solike, give all that to, I think,
because I feel like I agree withyou. Like I I didn't understand
that at all. But what I wassaying was not like that I get

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that they would give their allfor the team. But my I I've
never felt this passionately,passionately about someone
winning something. But yeah,when it was Hillary versus
Trump, I was so confident thatHillary was gonna become the
president, that I didn't feellike I needed to do. I guess a
lot of you know, I mean, like, Ilegitimately was not on the edge

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of my seat because I was like,there's no way this buffoon can
become the president. Like, Iwas literally at it, there was
no doubt in my mind that she wasgoing to be the president. But
that's why it was so stressfulthis time around is because we
were, I felt like it was thesame thing where like, it was
like, 5050, it goes off by justsuch a small percentage. So

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like, on election night, like,even though like I knew, like,
Hello, there's melon ballotsthat are gonna come and like,
wait for them. It felt verydisheartening, because like, all
I could think was, is this ishow it went down last time, and
Trump won. Yo, I felt veryhopeless and just like being
like, Nope, that's it likeTrump's gonna win. Like, there
we go. idiocracy took overagain. Like, I felt like Trump

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was not going to win, but I wasso scared of, like jinxing it.
That I didn't say any. I didn'ttalk to anyone about it really,
like even at home, I would onlytalk about it with other people
when someone else brought it up.
And if they said, like, oh,Biden's gonna win or whatever I
was like, Yeah, I think so. Butlike, I don't know, you know?

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Like, I didn't want to sayanything. I felt like I was
jinxing it, you know? Yeah.
Yeah. So I don't know. I think Iokay, so there's so many things
I want to talk about. I don'tknow. I'm struggling with like,
what to talk about for I guess Iwant to talk about the past that
like,definitely, it felt like set we
all settled for Biden, and Ifeel like no one was really.

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Hmm. on NPR. today. I wasgetting back and getting my hair
done. Someone said that.
Democrats tend to vote withtheir hearts and Republicans,
dill vote with their pocketbook,no, with their beliefs, like
you're thinking about like ruralpeople. And

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so like, they're like for whatthings they believe in like
anti choice and taxes like taxcuts and all this stuff. And
then like democrats fall in lovewith the person so
Like democrats will also belike, Oh my god, Obama and like
everything he stood for andlike, you know, like, often like

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the democrats is not. It's like,they're kind of saying, like,
the reason why like, Oh, wedon't really like Trump, but we
have such strong hardcorerepublican believes and like
things that tend to fall overinto Republicans, that we're
gonna vote for republican nomatter who the person is. And
then democrats tend to likereally fall for the person that

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is a democratic president, like,think of Bill Clinton, think of
Obama think, like, think ofeveryone democratic president
and how like people really like,I see that, like, Republicans
are really into sticking withthe party no matter what, yeah.
Democrats don't quite do that.
That's because democrats don'thave as United have a party as
Republicans do. Like the GOP is,like, very, very united as a

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party. But like, less recently,I don't know not that this is
like a political podcast, liketalking about the actual
structure of government andeverything. But I also was
listening to something that wastalking about how recently like
the last two presidencies, rightyou have Obama and you have

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Trump, both of them were bigcharacters. And so it almost
felt like this election was arejection of a character as a
president. And a return to like,weird, like, traditional
presidential ideas. Like becauseBiden to me doesn't stand out as

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like a character. Like hedoesn't brand to me, to me,
Biden just reminds me like,every time every speech I was
watching of him in the past, youknow, 96 hours or whatever, is
like, Oh, my gosh, he's sopresidential. Like, I don't
think like, Oh, that's so boldthat trickles on. Oh, that so

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presidential, which just feelslike a return to like, I don't
know. Well, that's what thesecond part, what I was gonna
say is that they were sayingthat quote, and the reason why I
brought that up, it's becausethey're saying, this time,
Democrats didn't have someonethat they were in love with that
they were like, inspired by it.
It was just like, okay, we justneed him We just need because we

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need to get Trump out. And itwas like, not a like you said
character and someone like apersonality. It was just like,
Okay, this is just what we haveto do is like a rejection vote
instead. It was like voting moreon the negative than on the
positive. And I just feel likenow it's, I'm just more excited
like how we're talking aboutlike, is Warren gonna be a head

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of education now is like so soperfect. Well, Bernie Sanders,
Bernie Sanders is on thecabinet. Yeah. What if AOC even
though she was like, What if AOCwas like, oh my god. Yeah, cuz I
remember when like Trump wasfirst elected, and then it ended
up being like, he hadantiSemitic. Yeah, but the thing

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is, is that mitch mcconnellstill has the Senate. And so
that's why like the January 5, Ithink, vote is super, super
important to try and flip theSenate seats because, like mitch
mcconnell can stop theconfirmation of various people
into the cabinet. So like, thatcould be prevented, which sucks.

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But you know, but yeah, well,because we're so glad to be
happy today, and maybe eventomorrow. And then we just got
to remember like, Trump stillbeing a big baby and he still
has the presidency. He still hasa job title for 96 days or
something. Yeah. So we'll see.
I'm sure he'll try to do morelawsuits, but Oh, for sure. And

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like do random shit. That'slike, yeah, pardoning everyone
or pardoning himselfauctioning off the United States
secrets.
Bullshit. He decides I like thewhole when you said like, watch
him try to have a what's calleda reality show. Like our news
channel reality news channel. Hewould do that. That's so

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annoying. Yeah, he would dothat. We were watching the news
and they were like, We don'tknow who is playing golf with
when he found out I was like,watch it be a producer producer
for like a new show. And I sawlike, all about like, cheat some
kind of cheesiness with himbeing a president. So that would
and I would have like a plan inthe title for sure. For sure,
the worst. Okay, so let's talkabout how Kamala Harris is the

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first female black and SouthAsian American woman to be
elected first immigrant andchild of an immigrant to be
elected as vice president ofAmerica. But she is not the
first person of color to be vicepresident. Little known fact you

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want to tell us a little bitmore about that Bay. So I went
on a hunt because I saw a memeand It was like, all the vice
presidents and it was like allthe emojis of like old man.
Yeah. But there was one that waslike slightly darker in the
middle area. And I was like,Huh. And then it had like, the
black woman at the end. And thenI was like, Who is this? Oh, I
did some googling. And Hoover'svice president Charles Curtis

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was a Native American. And hewas from the carnation born in
the Kansas territory. So he wasthe first and only other person
of color to be a vice president.
That's amazing. Yeah, I hadsomeone. Yeah. Especially then.

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Was it in the sick? Well, he wasborn in 1860. Oh, my gosh, yes.
So long ago. Yeah. So in 1929,we had a Native American Hell
yeah.
Yeah. So that's really awesome.
And I think what was inspiring,and I thought really good to
hear. And hopefully theycontinue to follow through. And

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obviously, like, we hold themaccountable to this. But in both
of their acceptance speeches,both Camila and Biden, were
like, We need to fix the racialequality. And we need to deal
with systemic racism. And weneed to do sorry, he said, both.

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That's why I was saying with, weneed to deal with like, all of
these things, and healthcare andblah, blah, blah. And I was
like, thank you. Yeah. And thenrealistically, like they have
for years, and they have tofight a bunch of uphill battles,
to even do that. So like, we'reprobably one of those. To be

(16:46):
honest, to be a realist. No,totally. But because it's not
like a President, thank Godbecause imagine what Trump would
have got away with, becausewe're like, we're gonna do this
now. And then that happens. It'snot a dictatorship. Yeah. As
much as Trump tried to run itlike a dictatorship. It's not
Yeah. So that's why it's so muchharder with his split.
Government. Like, that's why thesenate being republican and the

(17:08):
house being democrat and thepresident being Democrat. That's
why it's like so hard to Yeah.
But I don't know, it's justnice, at least No, like, you
have two people that have thaton their to do list and things
that they already it like, no,it's wrong.
It can be really hard because,you know, a cab and Kamala

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Harris has like supported wellis what was his was and has
supported cops in the past.
Exactly. So like, there's gonnabe a lot of things still that we
have to keep protesting for. Andwe got to remember like, we
don't wantlost presidency, there are a lot
of women, specifically,specifically white women that

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wear these shirts that said,like, if Hillary would have won,
I'd be at brunch right now. Andthey were those the protests.
And to me signs that said thattoo. That's just nice. That Oh,
this better person one. So thejobs over just because this
president, this person won thepresidency does not mean the

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fight is over the world in itinstantly stop being racist. As
we saw the numbers, thepercentages, there's still
systemic racism, climate changeis still sexism. There's so much
wrong with the world and youdon't stop fighting just because
like, Oh, we have a newpresident. Now. That's all gone
away. Cops are gonna kill ballpeople anymore. Yeah, yeah, no,

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that's still a huge issue.
Yeah, um, I would like to talkabout how fucked up the
electoral colleges, because Iwanted to talk about this last
week, but I knew that I wasgonna start talking my way into
like, guessing who the Presidentwas going to be. But the

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electoral college is soantiquated, was written for a
country that did not have even aquarter of the amount of people
that we have. So if you don'tknow what the electoral college
is, in the world's simplestterms, you probably know it
after this week. But the generalpopulation of each state
determines the amount ofelectoral votes that each state

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gets. And so these states arebroken up in different like
counties, and those each reporttheir votes. And then at the end
of the state, gathering all oftheir votes, they then send a
person or an electorate to goand place the electoral college
vote for their state andessentially like so as we saw,

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like, for example, inPennsylvania, Pennsylvania has
20 electoral college votes. Sowhoever gets the most votes in
Pennsylvania gets all of thosevotes. Now, this is the reason
why America is a democraticrepublic, and not actually a
democracy. So yes, we are builton these ideas of democracy. But

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we are not a complete democracy.
And people often think thatwe're a complete democracy. And
one of the main reasons isbecause it's not like one
person, one vote, and thatdirectly goes to a populace
count that determines thepresidency, but rather because
this Electoral College systemexists. And that's like, so
messed up, and it needs tochange. And the thing is, is

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that people only get fired upabout the electoral college and
how messed up it is. They onlyget fired up about that during
election season. And we can'tmake that change during election
season. Like, that has to besomething that we demand a
change for, in the middle oflike, once elections are over

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and people are in office, youknow, like, we can't stay silent
and forget that this is an issuebecause we're going to continue
having things like how last timewhen Trump won, he didn't
actually win the popular vote,and just won the Electoral
College, which means that mostAmericans didn't actually vote
for him. Yeah. And so that'slike, a thing that could happen.

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And they say every vote counts.
Yeah. And it like it does onsome level, but it also doesn't.
And it's hard, because it'slike, people are like, Oh, well,
that only happens every once ina while. Yeah, it only happens
every once in a while. But it'sbeen happening more often, more

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recently in years, whichdemonstrates that the more
people that there are, the lesseffective the electoral college
system is. So as our like,population is growing. This is
just becoming more tragic of asystem. I'm
sorry, I know you are interestedin that at all. It's okay. I

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totally do fall asleep rightnow. Alright, so yeah, I guess
basically, we'll see whathappens. And then we'll be here
to complain or celebrateeverything. I guess, I guess
what I imagined us talking aboutwas like, how do we feel in this

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exact moment? And how have wefelt for the last week? And is
that just something that's gonnacontinue happening? Or is that
just a product of this specificelection? every election? every
election? Have you ever feltthis like, hyped up about
elections? Do you feel it everytime or the last one I felt like

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this andbut bush for a second term, but
like this, that's it. Yeah. ButI mean, like,
me president I mean, like, likethe anticipation because of the
Coronavirus. Like, there was somuch mail and vote so there was

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way more waiting time. Like youdon't feel like this for this
long. Oh, yeah. No, usually, youknow, like the day of Yeah, so
it's not as prolonged stress.
Yeah, it was just, I don't know.
I think it's hard to talk aboutbecause it's like still trying
to recover over it. Like it'sonly Saturday. We just found out
today. So like, I haven'tprocessed it. Anyways, y'all. So

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the moral of the story is, it'sbeen a rough few days. from
Tuesday until today is Saturdaywhen recording this my time this
probably goes up on Wednesday.
May we have processor emotionsabout it? I don't know. I feel
like I'm really really happywith how it turned out. Mostly
because I just want that fuckingasshole out of office. And, you

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know, honestly, I would replacehim with someone I, you know,
didn't even like at all I justwould replace him with anyone at
this point. Like I'm just soover him and his trash antics.

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So I'm happy about that. And I'mlike, grateful that it wasn't
just like a really, reallyslight win, but that there was
like, he did win multiplestates. Like he didn't have to
heat it. He won more states andhe had to win to win, which
gives me some level ofreassurance. And that even like,

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these lawsuits that arehappening.
Yeah, whatever I don't want totalk about anymore. It's like,
I'm just like, I think becauseit went on through so many days.
I'm like, do we have to talkabout the election anymore? I'm
just like, ah, like, you don'tlike that at all. Like, I'm over
it. Like, just let it justbreathe like, like, let's just

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revel in the fact that like,Trump is over, not over over but
just for now. Let's just like belike, Yay, Biden.
Yay, everything's perfect and bedelusional for just like the
rest of the weekend, and thenmove on. But I just feel like
right now I just like to evenreally talk about I'm like, come
when do we get a break? Like,when do we get a break? Chris

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was just like, boat, boat boat,make sure everyone boats
hustling, we do the votingthing, then we try to see who's
winning. We don't know. Now allthe melon ballots are stressful.
And now we're here talking aboutit on the day, that should be
celebration. And I'm just like,okay, now it's like, cool. I
can't even talk about itanymore. Like 30 minutes was
enough.

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I'm gonna leave that in there.
Like, how do you honestly feel?
I feel like you feel likethere's so much more you can say
to educate. But at the sametime, I think we're on opposite
sphere. Like, you can still goand I'm just like, at this
weird, like, I'm gonna flip thetable over and be like, I have
solid to talk about I could Icould talk about politics all
day long. I could talk about itall day long. And I'm super

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hyped on it right now. And Ihave so much to say. And I could
continue talking for theentirety of this episode about
it. Well, that's they say thatopposites attract? And
unfortunately, we're not onlypolitics, but no, I know. And I
just think that like this is Ifind it really invigorating to
talk about, especially when it'slike, such a fascinating

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election. I think that therewere so many things about this
election that were really,really interesting. And so many,
like,places within like, for example,
the more liberal or democraticcampaign that we're lacking that
we really understood and saw inthis election, based on turnout,
I think it's amazing that thevoter turnout was so high and

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that, like Biden, and Harriswere elected with more votes
than any president in history.
Like, I think that that isincredible. I love looking at
all these different maps thathave like the different, you
know, yeah. And said, like, oh,white women, you know, fucked

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over the democrats again, andwe're racing women were the ones
that pretty much made thedifference, because that's
almost always the black woman isthe one that's mostly getting
the most votes and like to thedemographics, especially she go
to the polling places, who doyou see what's volunteering?
Like? Yeah, and the differencethat that made in Georgia that

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literally changed the tide, likeamazing. Yeah, but I think that
like, for example, I thought itwas really interesting that to
finally hear analysis frompeople in politics, about how
like, the way that Democratsjust like, think that any
marginalized people group islike automatically going to vote

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democrat and other finallyrealizing like, oh, there are
different, you know, countrybases within Hispanic cultures,
or they're like, not all blackvoters have the same agenda. And
it's just like, so refreshing tofinally hear, like, actual
political people talk aboutthat. Yeah. Where are

(28:11):
politicians, I guess the wordis, like, I just feel like
that's always brushed under therug and never addressed. And to
finally hear that being talkedabout, I just feel like, that's
a step in the right direction.
And I think that that'sinvigorating to hear that like
even people who you would thinklike they're never going to

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change their mind. And they'renever going to, you know, make
any sort of a awareness of theworld when it comes to social
injustice, that they're actuallyaddressing it, I think, is
really cool. Yeah, let's go tothe wheel world.

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Today in the real world, I wantto talk about how the roller
skating community could be selfsustaining. And I was inspired
by getting my hair done today bya roller derby and park skater.
Yeah, I mean, I think that somany of the things that we do as
roller skaters, because I thinkit comes from the fact that

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we're really small community.
And there's not a lot of like,out outside sponsorships to the
skate community, like not a lotof outside companies or
organizations are pumping moneyinto rollerskating the same way
that they are in other extremesports such as like extreme
sports, like skateboarding.

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other industries are likepumping money into
skateboarding. And with rollerskating, it's more like we do it
ourselves. And so what we'vebeen talking about recently is
how so many of the things thatwe do, we try and support other
roller skaters with our money.
So the same way that like, Idon't know like when

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Ever you have friends who arereally good at different things,
because they're theirprofessions, you will go to
those friends in order to givethem money. We try and do that
not just with our friends, butwith the skate community in
general. For me, I thought, inmy head, I was comparing it to
what I imagine like sororitiesand fraternities to be like,

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where it's kind of like,you're a skater, I'm a skater
and you learn a bit about them.
So then you kind of have thattrust and then you just go to
those people for everything.
Like it's a little like system.
Like, instead of having like alittle ring or necklace here,
where it's like your skates orthe like, Oh, I know. I can
count on you. Like instead ofjust coming up. Like, are you a
fi cap? Yeah. Whatever. I don'tknow.

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Like, is that? Illuminati?
Illuminati. That's the same.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so like,my tooth genomes are from a
roller skater.
My summer my tattoos are from aroller skater. My hair was on my
roller skater photographers, aroller ographers roller skater?

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Yeah, the person who built ourramp is a roller skater. No,
he's a skateboarder. But he'smarried to a roller. Yeah, but
married to a roller skater andmoney. And same thing. Like,
there's something else I wasthinking of. And I was like, Oh,
no. skater. We buy skates fromenters. But basically, yeah.
Yeah, or no, I know what it waslike even he pads like 187 Pro

(31:31):
Derby pads, or like whateverkind of knee pads they make,
that I've gotten and used is byVinton, who's a skateboarder. So
I feel like it's still skatecommunity. And I hang up first,
it wasn't intentional. Butlately, like I've been like,
that's like a plus for me. Oranother thing is not even an
exchange. But like, you'llnotice a lot of roller skaters

(31:53):
that like need help, and they'llpost like, they're struggling
financially on like Instagram orsomewhere. And then like, you'll
see roller skaters donatingmoney to them. So it's like,
taking, you're gonna be okay,like, whether you get injured at
the skate park, you can't makerent because like you lost your
job to COVID. Usually, theseother skaters will see you. And

(32:13):
even if they don't know you, orthey only skated with you a
couple times, they're morelikely to be like, I'm gonna
donate to you as a rollerskater, even if that's the only
thing we have in common thatlike when it's just some random
person they've never met beforeor seen before. Yeah, for sure.
And I think that that'ssomething that I've really been
considering moving into this,like holiday season where a lot
of there there's a lot of focuson gift giving. And I think that

(32:36):
the ways that we can support theroller skating community is by
buying gifts for other peoplefrom roller skaters. So if you
know of a roller skating shop,or like a artist who skates or
someone who just sells on Etsy,who's a roller skater, like try
and get gifts from them for thepeople in your life, because

(32:58):
that's a good way to kind ofcombat that, like big Corp.
Capitalism. Yeah, like insteadof, and it said, cuz like some
company and I think there's oneof the escape shop. And so
there's a couple others. Theyhave tried, they're coming.
They're trying to battle withAmazon. So now they're starting

(33:20):
to sell on Amazon. And if Ididn't, yeah, so like, you can
sometimes find things on Amazon,you're like, Oh, I thought this
was like the Etsy shop or skateshop. And it's just because like
they're, they can't keep up withlike them. So Amazon will suck
up companies like thatsometimes, because eventually

(33:41):
they're like, oh, people aregonna see get this product for
cheaper for faster for Amazon.
So now I have to like lower ourprice. throw my stuff on Amazon,
too. So like, just remember,like, even if you know you can
get on Amazon. Go ahead and getthose wheels that skate
leachables toecaps. Whatever itis those actual skates from a
skate shop. Yeah, in orderearlier or too early. Yeah. And
then like Sorry, I know. Youprobably want to get skates for

(34:04):
Christmas or someone but you'renot going to get them in time.
For Christmas and yeah, it's toolate already. Buy on print out
the receipt and put it in a boxthat guess what you're here to
take a printout of skates, makea skate pin yada.
Be like this might be some funfor now. But then in the spring,

(34:25):
you'll get real skates. Butyeah, I don't know it like
something. There's something socool to me not knowing like, Oh,
I Oh, even our beaker. Like wedon't have a bakery. But like
she said that sounded so boozyBaker, because like whenever
there's a birthday party, weneed a cake. We go to our Derby,

(34:45):
Derby con. So roller Skeeter andshe owns a bakery. And I
promoted her on my Instagrambefore she made that beautiful
black cake with the neon orangespiders calling up it she also
made the cake of shoves actualbutt Yeah, I look like this last
year. Yeah, it was great andmade Rebel a full on rainbow.
Okay, so say so like, that'slike our spot to go for like

(35:09):
designer cakes and the fact thatlike one we know her, but to
like she's a roller skater. Idon't know, like some new like,
that's kind of weird, but it'sjust like how like people black
on businesses like who want tosupport black owned businesses
specifically in the blackcommunity. It just holds
something in there. The skatecommunity is like, a little
thing to like, do you have allthese sub communities and you

(35:31):
want to uplift one another? AndI think there's something like
when I look at like a tattoo,and I'm like, Oh, yeah, I She's
like a badass tattoo artists,but also like, she's a badass
skater. And that makes me feellike I have something in common
with you. And it's like anotherlike, kind of Yeah, I mean, it's
literally a culture thing, ifyou're in an in group with all
of these other skaters, becauseyou have this baseline common

(35:52):
denominator with them. Butwhat's cool about I think the
reason why this works for theskate community, as it does with
the black community is becauseyou're not just black, like
you're black. And you also haveall of these skills on top of
it. And just in that same way,when you transfer that idea over
to roller skating, you're notjust a roller skater, like 90%

(36:14):
of the roller skaters you meetare not making their salary, or
their like living wage off ofroller skates. They're doing
something else as a career. Andso they have a specialty in
something. And so you couldconnect with all these people on
the basis of roller skating, andthen be like, Oh, you're also
like your massage therapist. Andyou'll also like see people

(36:37):
doing like trade for trade,which is awesome, like bartering
like, Oh, you give me a skatelesson. Like, I'll give you a
small tattoo or like, oh, like,I'll trade you some stickers for
that Pat, she made like, whichis really cool, too. Because
it's like, we pass so muchmoney, hand to hand like at the
skate skate skating shop. Thatwas a perfect example. Like, one

(36:58):
girl was literally like, I'vebeen wanting to buy some of your
art like can like, do you wantto just do a trade? So I was
buying something off of her?
Like, I was waiting for someearrings off over. And then I
was like, Yeah, sure. And theneven though like my print was
less than her earrings, I waslike, Oh, let me throw you some
cash. And she was like, No,we're good. And that's like,

(37:18):
what's cool is it's like, hey,so many times, like you bought
from my table, I'm just gonnawalk your tail, buy something.
And it's like, doesn't makesense or just
more. So I do like the idea ofjust like bartering. Yeah, and I
also love the idea to likebranching off of that is that
that people can use their skillsto enhance the skate community.

(37:42):
And that's something that I'veseen that's been really
beautiful, that I actuallyenjoy. So like, for instance, my
friend Savage, she is a graphicdesigner and does like
advertising and all that sort ofstuff. And she uses her skills
to like,help other people within the
skate community to develop theirbrands. Like she helped me

(38:04):
create my logo for my queer girlstraight skates. She has an
adult job, he has an adult. Shelike, Yeah, she definitely
didn't have to take the timefrom her like very adult clients
to like, help me out. But shedid. And that was something that
I was so incredibly gratefulfor. But at the same time, her

(38:24):
efforts to help me also helps meto help other people. Yeah, she
also like collabs withskate, which is what is it
called heretic ski. Yeah,heretic, skate, and also helped
roller Roos who needed a highrez logo, because his logo
wasn't, was too pixelated. So hecouldn't use it for any merch,

(38:47):
or anything. And she went aheadand helped him with that and
gave him even gave him likethree colorways and stuff and
just stuff like that. I feellike you're just more inclined
to help someone that you seethat like, is inspiring to you.
Or like, just, it's crazy. Like,you get escapes, and now you're
in the community and like, wedon't even know like, how
supportive it is. It's like, Idon't know, Sarah, and my little

(39:11):
community is awesome. Yeah.
That's really great, huh? Yeah,I like it. I do like it. What do
you offer to the Sikh communitythen? Well, I'm a teacher by
trade. So I'm literally I Well,I teach public speaking and like
Communication Studies and allthat sort of stuff. And you

(39:31):
probably hear some of thatcoming out when you listen to
this podcast because Iinfiltrate a lot of theories
like communication theories,even if I'm not actually saying
the name of the theories, I'minfiltrating them into this
conversation. So if you need aspeech coach or a public
speaking,you ever need public speaking
help, or you need a speechwriter or someone to edit your
speeches or anything like that,like I'm really good at that.

(39:54):
But I think that I specificallyuse because when I was doing
getting my master's degree Istudied instructional,
like instructionalcommunication. So I learned how
to teach well. And so because mytrade is in teaching well and
and communicating, I thinkthat's why my niche has become

(40:19):
YouTube. Yeah, because I'mliterally teaching people how to
skate. And I'm using a lot ofthe instructional methods. And
also, my other subdivision oflike, things I studied in, in
grad school was digitalliteracy. So like, I literally
like studied, like, how to be agood teacher on the internet.
And then not only is that like,directly translating into this

(40:42):
world of COVID, but it likedirectly translates into YouTube
and everything too. So it's kindof been a wild ride. And I never
would have guessed that. That'swhy I would have studied all
this stuff. But I found that mehaving studied that has has
really helped me to help otherpeople, I think, hopefully help

(41:03):
a lot of people within the skatecommunity. Nice. I don't think I
have anything that helps. ButI'm here.
As a helper, I just give mymoney to people.
Other people, yeah, I have likestuff like that. I don't have I
guess, like, for me, it's justlike, physical things like that.

(41:23):
But I don't have I don't thinkI disagree. I think that your
craft, the thing that you likereally bring to the skate
community is your ability tobuild other people up with your
words. Like, I think that youare like a very, I think you
have a very strong skill ofmotivational speaking, whether
that's to an individual or to agroup of people. And I think

(41:45):
that you bring that to the skatecommunity, and that that skate
community really benefits fromthat like that you people up and
that's needed. Thanks be. Yeah,I think that Who are we as a
skate community if we're notencouraging people to stay and
push through the hard times ofbeing a skater? And I feel like
you're one of the reasons whypeople stay within the skate

(42:06):
community. And without that,retaining without that, like
glue, then we just are wedisperse like, we don't maintain
our our community. And so Ithink that you're a very vital
part for the skate communitythings. I don't feel worthless
anymore.

(42:27):
You should never feel worthless.
We all have our part. We do. Butyeah, I don't know. I really, I
just really like it. I don'tknow. It's just, I really like
specially knowing, like, Ithink, with COVID and
everything. And like realizinglike how much money I was saving
from not being able to justlike, go on shopping sprees, and
go here and there and whateverit may be, like, spoil myself or

(42:49):
like I've ever been like,Where's my money going now,
because like, we went out andate like fancy dinners, maybe
not fancy but just like went allout. Or like, I don't know, just
anything. Like, you just end upspending money. And then like,
you start seeing like peoplestruggling or like people that
like had like secure jobs, butthen they had to close down. And
when it opened, I started reallylike, I don't know, like

(43:12):
thinking like, okay, I've beenhomeless before. I've been like
dirt poor before, you've beendirt poor before. And by no
means are we like rolling in thedough right now. But we're not
going without, which is like agrateful place to be. So when I
see someone that I know, like,especially when they're trained
to earn the money, or theyreally need it. Like if I can

(43:32):
help I try to like even ifthat's just like sharing a post
when like people post theirVenmo or something or they're
struggling like you if you don'tneed money to help someone like
you can promote them by like,sharing their artwork, their
like tattoo work, theirhairstyles that they've done,
like, whatever it may be,whatever their trade is, I think
like just using your platform tolike, share, it helps that

(43:55):
person a lot. Or if you have themoney to like, go ahead and like
get a tattoo that you want fromthat person in the skate
community or like go get that togym or
being that connection for otherpeople. Like if you have your
ear open and then your finger onthe pulse of the community. Then

(44:16):
like when someone says, oh, I'vebeen really wanting to get a
tattoo, you could be like, Ihave a friend Her name is Ash.
She does great tattoos or like,if you hear someone being like,
yeah, I'm about to go in for aninterview. And I have no like, I
have no preparation for goinginto interviews. You can be
like, Oh, well Rebel actuallyteaches a whole thing on
interviewing, you know, like,maybe she can help you. And so

(44:38):
you can help other people justby being the link Yeah, as like
a skater and teacher got me thatgig like doing a motivational
speaking to a school to privatehigh school. So there's
definitely like littleconnections and like, don't
hesitate to reach out like it.

(45:00):
Even if it's to like helpsomeone that's not a Skeeter
basically then just make thoseconnections to kind of help us
stay employed andwhat we do in life thriving cuz
roller skating doesn't keep foodon the table. All right y'all
let's turn queer two girls onepop

(45:24):
in two girls one cup we want tosay a little special
because is Bowie's birthday thislast week? That's right this
little pup old fart is eightyears old. Oh wow. How's it feel
to be eight?

(45:45):
Free?
Down been nice.
Yeah, Bowie had a birthday andhe had a potty a puppy potty had
a puppy Patty from in and outbecause that's his face.
So it was a good day. We didn'tmake it down to the big shop.
Yeah, we were going to but helikes puppy patties just as

(46:08):
well. So we think he will befine with that. And he played
with his toy a lot. And wewanted to invite all this dog
friends over but he hates otherdogs so he doesn't have any dog
friends. So he just got lots oflots of loving some ear
scratches. Some tummy rubs headmuffling because Bobo love him

(46:30):
with lots of kisses. I sing hima song. Yeah, so likes it when
we sing to him. Happy birthdayboy. We love you. Happy
birthday, Bobo. You're thegreatest old man.
You're the best old man child.
Benjamin Button dog. There yougo. It's like I go to sleep now.
And cuddling with your phone.

(46:54):
Little portato he's like if Icuddle with a phone. Does that
make me a millennial? I shouldkeep you up here Bobo, but you
breeds too heavy.
Thanks for hanging out. Happybirthday to you. Happy birthday
to you. Happy birthday dear BoboHappy birthday to you. Oh,

(47:20):
you're eight years old? That'slike 100 and doggie years. Hey.
This is your birthday song. Itis.
No, my name is Billy. Yeah, I ama dog. Yeah, I'm so old. Yeah,
it is my birthday. Well, we solucky stuff right now. Whatever.

(47:44):
Hang out for two girls one pupBowie. All right, it's time for
deer shovel.
To give some advice? Yeah. Sobabe, why don't you tell the
people how they can send inmessages to deer shovel.

(48:05):
An email dear. Okay, Dalways email dear scape
d@gmail.com with your questions.
Okay, this one says, I hope thisemail finds you. Well, first and
foremost. Thank you. Thank youso much for sharing yourself,

(48:28):
your wins your vulnerabilities,your struggles and your
victories. You are soencouraging and I returned to
your podcasts and videos forsupport and energy.
Question How do you handle yourwork life balance. I recently
graduated working at a new jobliving with my boyfriend for the
first time and picked up a lovefor rollerskating most days of

(48:51):
dread for quote going to work.
I'm working from home virtuallyand it has been a big struggle
to separate home from work. Idon't want to bring the stress
from work into home, butsometimes it gets really really
overwhelming. Could you pleaseshare some tips, tricks, ideas
or approaches? Thank you wishingyou both all the best and
sending you shimmery glitterybushels of energy. Oh, warmly.

(49:13):
Skeeter wanna be? Oh, that's socute. Well, I'm the tip and
she's the trick. So let's gowith this. Oh my gosh, first of
all, thank you so much Skeeterwant to be for emailing us. We
really appreciate you. And thankyou. Dear Shove, which rebels
just left out.

(49:34):
Yeah, because I thought we wereleaving that out. Why? Because
this is deer shovel.
And if I said your show, then itwould be directing the question
at you just you know, butbecause I think it's funny
because I need help with thistoo. So even though you started
out with deer show, you reallymean deer rebel.

(49:58):
That's why I wanted toStay in there. And she did also
mention you in it. So it's notspecifically for me.
But I wanted to laugh because Iwas like, ooh, how do you
separate it? Like I literallyhad to like, even though I can
do work from home right now,like, be like, I need to leave a

(50:20):
tow, I can't do anything whenI'm here. I'm not getting
anything done, because it justfeels like I'm in home mode.
Like, I'm in lazy mode, like, Idon't know, like, I want to
like, have it separated. Andit's really hard to do that when
you're Yeah, well, I mean, thepoint is that it's really hard.
A lot of people are strugglingwith this exact issue right now.

(50:41):
And there are many tips, tricksand things that you can do to
deal with it. But let me firstgive you a little background to
me, I am also struggling withwork life balance, right now I'm
working home from homecompletely, and I tend to go to
the opposite side, then do whatShove does Shove tends to be
like I'm at home, I can't workat all. Whereas I'm at home, and

(51:05):
I'm working. And I never turnoff work. So I never stopped
working. Because I don't havethat moment where I like, clock
out or leave the workplace. Ijust like in my office all day
long. And so I just never knowhow to put up that boundary. So
I've been doing a lot ofresearch and talking to a lot of
people and developing strategiesfor myself. And this is what

(51:26):
I've found that works the best,the first thing to do is to
separate a working space fromyour living and home space. And
so if it's possible, even ifit's just like a small corner of
your house, that you can claimas like, this is the area where
I work. And when I am pretendinglike I'm clocking in, I walk

(51:51):
over to this area, I have alittle, you know, ritual that I
set up, and then I go on tolike, start my work day, then
great, awesome, you're there.
And then as soon as you are,when you're taking your lunch
break, you would leave theoffice and like actually take a
break, and then come back to theoffice. So you're essentially

(52:12):
creating an office space foryourself. And then once you
leave your desk or your littlecorner for the day, then you
stop working. So it's like youcreate a physical space that
makes it feel like you're goingto work and then coming home
from work. And that's reallyhelped to me. Yeah, that helped
me before like summer when I gotreally hot, and I could come to

(52:33):
the garage and work. And thenlike go back in the house that
felt like yeah, like I wasactually going somewhere. And
then like just focusing on thatand not getting distracted by
100. Other things. Yeah, anotherthing you can do is to set up an
actual schedule for yourself. Sowhen we are working from home,
it's really easy to just belike, Oh, I don't have to be at

(52:55):
work at any specific time. Soyou just sleep in until whenever
you wake up, you trudge on overto your desk or the couch or
wherever. And then you just jumpon the computer, you're like, I
guess I'm working now. And youjust work until you know
whatever your work is done. Butinstead, you should say I'm
going to start work at 9am. Andmaybe if you're like, I'm gonna

(53:17):
work from nine to five, or maybefor you, it's something
different maybe work from 10until six, or maybe you just
have a few hours of work eitherway, you set up your work time
and you decide to go to work ata certain time every day of your
work week. So like for me, I tryand get in front of my computer

(53:39):
by 7:30am every day. And then Iknow I'm working until a certain
time that I take a 30 minutelunch break, and I leave my desk
and then I come back to my deskafterwards. And then I work
until you know 6pm ish, andhaving that specific time that
you allocate directly to workand then being like, okay, that

(54:01):
time is done and then leavingand allocating that time to be
at home and be with you buildingrelationships have something to
say. Yeah, like, that's allgood, too. And that's all like
really good advice. But also, Ithink it's really important we

(54:21):
focus on a big part of whattheir email was. Is that the
relationship aspect?
I have some thoughts on thatone.
So for me, I feel like it's hardbecause we get distracted by one
another too.

(54:42):
And let me see. It's about astrat Yeah. Living with a
boyfriend for the first time.
Yeah. Bringing the stress andwork into home. So I think it's
like really important to mentionthe relationship aspects because
for Rebel and I it's like we'reeither we're
Gonna easily distract oneanother because it's like, one

(55:03):
of us is like not in work mode,kind of, it's kind of like, Oh,
look at our phone, and thenwe're like, oh, look at this,
look at this and each other, andthat can be distracting. Or you
can be stressed out by your job,and then you're gonna take that
off, you're gonna take that outon whoever's closest to you. And
that's gonna be the person inyour relationship,
unfortunately, and I am a bigperson that loved having a

(55:25):
shitty day at work. And I wouldliterally sit in my car in the
parking lot, either outside ofmy job, or even outside of the
house for like, a good five to15 minutes, and just decompress,
because that's like, how I don'tbring it in, and give me like
that buffer to just be like, I'min my plateau, and not just be
like, Okay, I'm frustratedversus like, something

(55:47):
frustrating in the moment. Andthen I'm like, and then like
Rebel asked me a question. Andthen I snapped at her because
she's the closest person withambassadors so many times, yes,
quarantine. So it's like, reallyhard, because I think that's a
lot of people in relationshipsright now that have to work from
home, is like, you have to havebalance, you also have to know

(56:07):
how to communicate with yourpartner. And then like, also,
like, learn that you no longerkind of have that privacy's to
have or at least little buffers,what used to house so like,
that, again, would be likehaving your own personal space
versus like, trying to alwayswork and be in the same spot, if
you're lucky enough to like,have a big enough area to not be

(56:30):
in the same room. Because in thebeginning, it seems fun, like,
Oh, I can be working and how mypartner right here on the couch
with me, but then I that startscreating issues. So you still
also again, need to have likeyour separate, like communicate
or like oh, when you're going totake a break, and then maybe
have your like, you know,quotations lunch break together
or something. But like, makesure you're still blocking out

(56:53):
that time, like Rebel said, likefor working, or going into a
different area of the house towork. If something like you're
stressed out, maybe go for awalk or something, or walk or
escape or something, and thencome back instead of just like
taking it out on your partner.
Yeah, and I think it's importantto prioritize your relationship
as well. Like you have to in thesame way that you allocate time

(57:15):
for work, you have to allocatetime, for relationship building,
like you really have to makesure that you're carving out
time to spend with your partner.
And like, just spending timewith them being with them,
whether it's making dinner, orwhatever it is that you enjoy
doing with your partner, becausethe worst thing in my head, and

(57:38):
maybe this is like a Piscesthing, like the worst thing is
just to live in a hot like tocohabitate with someone and then
feel like, Oh, you live withthem, but you like never get to
actually talk to them or neverget to actually hang out with
them. And I think that that'ssomething that's happened with
me because I struggle so muchwith like,
Oh, well, there's no i i don'tset strong enough boundaries

(58:02):
between work and home. And solike, if I get a call from my
boss, or if something is leakingover, I'll just work on it until
I'm done, instead of saying, Ican pick this up again tomorrow.
And that That, to medemonstrates that I'm not
putting enough priority on myrelationship and calling that

(58:23):
time sacred, that I'm allowingmy work to be more important
than my relationship. And soit's really, really important
that you figure out where yourpriorities lie, and then you use
actions to follow up on yourpriorities. Mm hmm.
Yeah, I don't know. It justsucks. It's hard. It's really

(58:46):
hard to just like learn how tonavigate in times like this. I
hate it. These aren't newnormal, though. Like, it's
literally the worst. I hate itso much. So basically, yeah, I
just communication creatingspaces. Compared to my Oh, I
hate that word heart.
mentalizing. Yes.

(59:08):
being heard of that, and likealso, like, before, I had more
of a scheduled job, like I wastrying to sing, like, maybe you
should try it like with yourpartner, where like, I would
tell her I will like, hey, likewhat's your week look like and
have our planners out. So wekind of knew what one another
was doing. So we could make timefor one another or schedule

(59:29):
things that we could. So it'slike, if I knew she had a heavy
work day, that I would put a lotof my heavy stuff on that day.
So that way, it wasn't like oneof us was still working while
the other one was off and beinglike, hang out with me.
Or like I thought we were gonnawatch a movie tonight or
something. So keep that in mindto like maybe just like, you

(59:49):
know, goes back to the wholecommunication thing. Yeah, and
this also ebbs and flows withdifferent like parts of your
life too. Like, when I was ingrad school, my life was
signaledFrequently more busy all the
time and Shove was kind of like,well, I guess this is the time
when you do things and I helpyou, you know, and that was just
like a part of our life. And sothere are going to be some

(01:00:13):
busier times and some less busytimes and it's all about like,
knowing that there's a light atthe end of the tunnel with some
of those times and also justabout like, being aware and like
communicating about what'shappening with you with your
partner.
Well, it's it's hard. It is.
That's why I bought a balancedboard board to practice Yeah, I

(01:00:37):
bought a balanced board to putuse once and never looked but i
did i use once.
It was awesome. But yeah, so Ihope we gave you some good
pointers in there. I know. I'mgonna be hard. I don't think
anyone really has the rightanswer. You just got to see what
works for you. Try some of themout. Not everything we do will

(01:01:01):
work for you. But hopefullysomething did Yeah. All right. I
had that was deer shovel and asa continuation kind of, of deer
shovel. We want to shout outSkeeter want to be we don't know
if you're the same person but wethink that maybe you are
thank you so much for giving usfive stars on my cast we super

(01:01:25):
appreciate you either want to beskidder Sumo bees, okay. Is
scare is also like I just reallylove this part. I wish I could
give this podcast eight wheels,but five stars will have to
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up and shares us to the world,which is what we want. That
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daddy. Yeah, I don't know how totake y'all on another day. Just
kidding. We're definitely goingon another day. Obviously, we're
gonna go on another day,especially on a hump day. Oh,

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dude. So next week, we won'ttalk about the election. We'll
give you a break. I won't talkabout a break. We'll give you a
break from politics. The onlyway politics are coming back or
if the Civil War isn't happeningbut looks like knock on wood.

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I think it's because he hasn'trealized what's happening. He
still thinks he was Yeah, Ithink so. Oh my gosh. The
victim. Yeah, well, security. befascinated.
Anyways.
See you next time.

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