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Episode Transcript

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Very detailed part I want to dive into with you.
I don't know why I feel called to do these things with you.
No, listen to your intuition. Like it's all literally like, if
it's coming up, let's do it well.
This comes from a piece called Your Incarnation Cross, and it
kind of speaks to your grandeur purpose, and there's something
to do with the information. It's just part of who you are.
But two of the things that come up, which I feel like I just see

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in you already with only knowingyou for about 35 minutes, but
one is like there is this like innocence about you.
And like the innocence is really, it's like, it's
basically this ability to like experience hard things in life
and just like find your way out of them and like inspire others
with like your ability to just like remain a child throughout
it all. I have always found such an

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affinity, two modalities that make me feel deeply understood.
And that's why I'm so incrediblyexcited to bring this guest on
today because we have never ever, ever talked about human
design with an expert on the podcast and this is our first
opportunity. I am so incredibly excited human
design educator and now author like today her book comes out,

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so we all need to book club it Author of How do you choose
that? Literally comes out to day.
Aaron Claire Jones, I am so incredibly excited to have you
on. Welcome to Skinny Dipping, the
podcast. Are you ready to strip down
metaphorically and dive in? Oh.
My God, I can't wait. Thanks for having me.
This is so incredible. Human design is so special for

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people who don't know. Like what the fuck is human
design? Like what would you even begin
to say to explain to somebody who is just dipping their toes
in the water today with us? So human Design is a system
based on your time, date, and place of birth that reveals your
energetic blueprint and how you're wired to thrive in every
part of your life, from relationships to career to

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business, to Wellness to parenting.
All of it. It really gives us each our own
unique road map to finding our flow.
That is so incredibly beautiful.And did you get into this
because you felt like you neededit or what was like, how did you
even get into this line of work?I mean, I have friends who do
human design and it is just so incredible.
Whenever I've gotten a reading, I'm like, like the tears are

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flowing, right? Because we're feeling so
incredibly understood. I'm sure you've seen that with
clients. Yeah, it really is such a gift
to make you feel so seen becauseit often feels so familiar.
I discovered human Design 10 years ago now, when I was 25 or
almost 10 years. And I was at a friend's
gathering, and I walked in and Isat next to a stranger who asked

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to read my human design chart. And I never heard of it before,
but I was like, tell me everything you see, You know, I
think that I was so curious, youknow, what his insights were.
I was at such a moment of transition in my life, and I
just wanted to hear what he saw.And he proceeded to give me the
most accurate, insightful reading I had ever experienced.
And he actually ended that conversation by saying, Aaron, I
think you're meant to do this. I think you're meant to study

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human design and share it. And he really invited me into
building a business and studyingwith him.
So that's how it all began. And you know, it was crazy.
Right now. It was, I mean, it's just crazy.
Also, I think being at this journey of 10 years later,
writing a book, being like, wow,this has been like a real
chapter. And it all began with that like
1 evening and that one experience and everything about

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it felt right. So I just kept saying yes.
It's so incredible because todayis the day that you, like,
release your book. You're going on all these huge
podcasts. It's like, are you having any of
those? Like Oh my God, like this is
what I've been praying for a moment.
Honestly, like I feel like at this moment, and maybe it's
because I'm postpartum and I have two really young children
on like 1 foot in front of another, you know what I mean?

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It's just like one day, Like, yeah.
That makes sense because when I'm in the process of something
so big, like I can't even process it in the moment, like
it's an after, it's an after effect.
But I just want you to like havea moment and sit with it and be
like, wow. Because I really do believe it
takes 10 years to become an overnight success, right?
You pour everything into it to create this mastery and this

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expertise around your craft. And it's now like finally your
moment to just show everyone. And I'm just so excited to be a
part of this journey for you. And I was so drawn to the name
of your book. How do you choose?
How do you choose? Because the skinny dipping
listeners know I feel like we are just multifaceted creatives

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here in our community. And the, the feedback that I get
from so many young people, especially young women is like,
Oh my gosh, I just want to do everything like, how do I, how
do I, how do I know what path isright for me?
You know, like that, that just age-old question of what is my
purpose? And using human design as a tool

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to facilitate those choices is so beautiful.
And I would love to dive in if you could just, like tell us
more about it that people could use to kind of like apply to
their own lives as they begin tolook at human design.
Of course, I think when I started thinking about writing a
book, you know, there are a lot of amazing human design books
out there, but the books are very much like human design
textbooks. You know, it's like these are

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all the elements which for somebody like me, I'm like, I
love it. I love all the interpretations.
But I felt like what was really missing was a book that talked
about how it could actually be applied in really practical ways
to our day-to-day life. And I think what has been so at
the heart of my work over the past 10 years is decision making
is how human design can help us make really empowered aligned
decisions in the realm of career, in the realm of

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parenting, in the realm of relationships.
And so the book is very much meant to be like a real time
decision making guide. I had a friend who had an
advance copy and she called me one day and she's like Aaron,
like, I don't know whether I should move into this place.
I don't know if I should move toBrooklyn.
And I was like, open this chapter, like open the chapter
that talks about this. And she like literally opened it
up. I was like, I know exactly what
to do. And so I just think there's like

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something around we're making decisions all day, every day.
And I think really knowing how to make decisions in a way that
genuinely feels right for us andthat's moving us in the right
direction, direction makes such a difference and also frees up
so much mental energy in space. And so that's kind of, you know,
a little bit of tangent of wherethe book came from, but I think
that's what our design can offerus.
It's like, how can we actually make the best decisions for our

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career? How can we make the best
decisions for our relationships?How can we make the best
decisions in terms of structure our day-to-day in a way that
feels good and is sustainable? That's so amazing because I feel
like the question everyone's always asking is like, is it my
anxiety? Is it my intuition?
How do I even tap into my intuition?
How do I even, like, listen to that?
And it's so interesting because I feel like, correct me if I'm
wrong, but what human design shows is that it's unique to

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everybody. You know, like, what's going to
work for you to make a decision isn't necessarily going to feel
the same in somebody else's body.
Is that accurate at all? Yeah, it basically reveals like
our unique way of tapping into our knowing.
And it's different for everyone.Like for some people that can be
a very visceral gut feeling whensomething shows up.
For others that can make a quietwhisper.

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For others that like clarity comes with time over a couple
days or maybe even a month. Some people have to kind of
speak things out to actually hear the truth of their words.
And so I think that we kind of can get caught up and just
outsourcing our knowing to others or writing down pro
comments and trying to figure out what makes sense.
And yet there is just a deeper knowing that's available in
human. It really helps us access that.

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So let's dive into kind of some of the aspects so that people,
so we're going to do a little reading of mine a little bit
later, guys. But before we get into that,
kind of I want to get to like some sort of applicable
actionable moment that everybodycan kind of take with them.
I know there's so many differentaspects to human design,
obviously. So it's like, maybe we'll just
start with the basics. I love it.

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Begin. My human design educator Queen.
OK, let's begin with type. You know, as as you said, there
are so many parts of the chart we can dive into, but type is a
really beautiful place to begin.And if you don't yet know your
type, you can look it up at humandesignblueprint.com.
You will see kind of a wild looking chart that is not meant
to make a lot of sense immediately, but then you'll see

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a list of qualities. And what you I want you all to
look at is what is the word nextto type?
There are five types in human type.
So we've got manifesting generators, generators,
projectors, reflectors, and manifesters.
And our type is the part of our chart that just speaks that we
best use our energy and what ourgifts are, and also what are
some challenges we might face. So I'm going to start with you.

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You're a generator in human design.
I did know that, but I love to dive in even further and I love
to hear of everyone's different interpretations too.
Totally. So being a generator basically
means that you are somebody thathas a lot of natural vitality
and capacity and energy. When you feel genuinely excited
by what you're working on, like when you're excited by what

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you're working on, your energy is pretty boundless.
You can go, go, go. Like an ideal day for you is
often one of you where you wake up energized, you kind of use up
your energy in ways that feel satisfying and you drop in a bit
delightfully spent. You're like, I've left it all on
the field and that's often totally allowed.
What allows you to wake up energized again?
But because generators are so naturally capable and

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resourceful, people can really want them to do a lot, you know,
want them to spend time with them, want them to help with
them with certain things. So a big lesson for you is
around boundaries and knowing that just because you can do
something doesn't mean you should, you know, and having a
lot of discernment around what you actually feel available for
and where your gut is pulling you.
And also there's like a very masterful, steady kind of step
by step vibe to the generators too.

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They're really going to kind of master and just like growing
things and really bringing ideasto life.
That's so interesting because I am like the queen of the step by
step game plan. Like ever since I was literally
young, like 1617 when I started my first business.
Like whenever I have an idea, I literally sit and I'm like, if I
could guess what this would looklike step by step, what would it

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be like? And just creating the blueprint
like on the spot and just being able to like 1 foot in front of
the other and get it done. And that's like my process of
creating everything that I've created.
Yeah, it's so interesting. You know, my husband's a
generator and like he's definitely so process based.
It's like there's just like sucha clear process for everything.
And yeah, I'm curious here if more generators feel that kind

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of identifying what that like need for the step by step
because they really are so good at bringing ideas to life, but
they also can really enjoy the process and also like appreciate
a clear process whereas manifesting generators.
OK, yes, let's talk about the next type.
So they also have all this natural capacity and vitality
and energy and share a lot of qualities with generators, but
their gifts are being very multipassionate.

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These are my clients that are like I'm starting a coaching
practice. I'm also practicing law.
I'm also like opening a juice bar.
Like they just like are very multi dimensional and honestly,
you have parts of that in your design.
So we can talk more about that in a bit.
But like they're just kind of meant to pivot between many
things. And they also are very fast
movers. They can often bring ideas to
life so quickly and so powerfully, and can be quite

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disappointed with others when others don't move quite as fast.
And so a big lesson for them is not expecting others to move at
their speed. Interesting.
That's so interesting because I feel like I do resonate with
that in certain ways, but I havefriends who are manifesting
generators that I see that within them for sure.
Right. It's like a really, and again,
some people even group these types together, but like there
is this very superhuman nature to manifesting generators where

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you're just like, how can you doso much at once and like bounce
between? But like often like they need
that variety and they need that freshness.
And I think we're manifesting generators can struggle is they
can often feel like they're scattered or like they're doing
too much or that they need to choose just one path or niche
down when they're not meant to. They need variety, they need
freshness, they need change. Okay, manifesting generators, do

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you hear that bodies like allow yourself to have the freshness
that you deserve? Because it's interesting because
when you're talking about the generators, you said for them to
have a full day and then go to sleep feeling like they left
everything on the field is what they need to wake up the next
day feeling energized. And that's so interesting.
Is it kind of similar with the manifesting generators where
it's like having this freshness makes them wake up with this

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energy, this vitality? Yeah, and also just for them,
it's like what's what makes themfeel spent and satisfied one day
might not be what made them feelspent and satisfied 2 weeks
before. Like, you know, it's just like
they are constantly evolving. And so it's really about kind of
giving themselves permission to pivot.
Like even at a more micro level,I sat with a manifesting
generator yesterday who was like, I feel like I always try

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to have this very rigid workout routine and she's like, and I
hate it. Like I've learned that like I
kind of like every day to feel different and I kind of
experience all these different forms of exercise.
So like, they just need a variety in all the small and big
ways and like life needs to feelpretty, pretty dynamic for them.
That's so beautiful. I love that because like you
said, I feel like the beautiful part about human design is
making people feel. You said this on a voice memo
when we were chatting earlier. It's like making people feel so

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not just understood there was a verbiage that you used that.
It's like you gave them permission to be themselves.
Yeah, that's so it's like, yeah,I think that like people know
this intuitively and they often like get pulled away from it and
human design just returns them to what they know, you know, And
so and I think human design and we can talk about this later,
like it's such a beautiful tool for self understanding and

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alignment in all the ways and giving us a lot of permission to
kind of do life in a way that works for us.
But it's like equally powerful as a tool to better understand
the people around us and how we can kind of support them and
doing them. I had a client with a
manifesting generator daughter and she was like a teenager.
And when he came to me, he was agenerator and he was like,
Aaron, my daughter, so scattered.
She's not choosing a sport. She's playing softball, she's

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playing volleyball, she's doing cross country.
Like I just need her to choose one and commit to it and master
it, which was like, so his design.
And I was like, you know, she's actually doing it perfectly
according to her design. It's just different than you,
you know? And it was just so revelatory
for him to be like, oh, like, nothings wrong with her for
trying things on and letting things go and pivoting.
Like, that's just like a very innate part of who she is.

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That's so beautiful and I feel like it.
It allows us to learn about expectations of other people and
not expecting everyone to be exactly like us and our process
and our way of thinking things. I'm really curious as we get
into the next type of projectorsbecause I'm a generator, my
boyfriend is a projector. I'm a projector married to a

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generator, so I get this. OK, OK, I'm a girl.
OK, Talk about the projectors. And then, yeah, if you have any
advice for me, because sometimesI'm just like, why don't you
have the same energy? Like I'm like, be excited with
me, you know? And I'm so curious, like your
thoughts on that. But let's talk about the type of
the projectors for people who don't know.

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So projectors are very natural leaders, guides, teachers,
really wise about people. They really do well in any
position where they're kind of guiding and stewarding other
people, really good at asking the right questions.
However, they don't have that same consistent energy that we
talked about with generators andmanifesting generators.
Their energy more naturally ebbsand flows.
And so it's really good for themto have pockets of rest and

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pause and just like breaks in their day.
And like in an ideal day, like they could just honor those like
natural ebbs and flows. But we live in a world of a lot
of generators and manifesting generators.
So projectors often feel a lot of pressure to keep up and do
more. And so I would say one thing
that you can do to support your boyfriend is really honoring his
need for rest in time alone. Obviously you need rest in time

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alone as well. But for you, like, I would guess
the most satisfying rest comes when you're like, I have used up
my energy and now I can rest. Yeah.
Like, as projectors, we don't. It's more just kind of building
it into our days. You know, I had, I tell a lot of
stories about this in my book ofpeople that are married to
projectors, but it is this understanding of like they need
that rest in a way that they others might not need and really

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kind of giving them permission to take it and really
encouraging that. And also, I would say one way
you can really support a projector is really inviting
them in, like really recognizingall their gifts and qualities
that lie beyond how much they can do and how many hours they
put in, but really kind of how powerful the perspective is, how
clear their insight is, So really creating space for them

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to share it. That's so beautiful because I do
feel like that and my partner, like I can go to him for the
advice that I truly need. And I just trust his integrity
and his morals more than every anything.
Like his perception of the worldis just this naturally
effortless leader. It's not like it's not like he
has to be big and loud to be theperson guiding the energy, you

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know? It's just like he just has that
gift that people just look to naturally.
And I, I love just the idea. I feel like I as like the 20 I
just turned 262526 feel like I'mthis in this maturing era where
I'm like, oh, I really want to learn how to just give my
partner full permission to be himself and not have all these

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like expectations of him, like doing so much.
So that's just really beautiful.Thank you for sharing.
No, I love, I love that you see it so clearly.
You know, one of the stories I tell in the book is of Nelson
Mandela, who's a projector. And it is this kind of like
quiet, subtle leadership that people just like look to.
And I would say one of the giftsof projectors is like they can
make people feel so seen and so understood, you know, so it's,

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it's also realizing that. That's so beautiful.
OK, next one. Who?
Who then? We've got manifestos.
Manifestos are very innovative, disruptive people.
These are people that are reallygood at like initiating and
getting things started. They're not really gonna like do
all they're doing to keep an idea alive, but it's often just
like getting a thing off the ground.
And they also like kind of like blowing up the way things are
done. Like they just do things in

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their own way. They like treading their own
path. These are people that really
value freedom. They love their freedom to kind
of do what they want, when they want, how they want.
They are not really here to be guided or told what to do in any
way. And they also very bursty
energy. Like they might have periods
over a couple hours, days or weeks where they're totally on
fire, followed by like days, hours, weeks where they have to

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kind of really rest and like, let the energy, you know, come
back and then they'll kind of surge back up again.
So really giving themselves thatspace when they need it.
Beautiful. And is there one more?
Reflectors. The rarest type?
Yeah. The rarest type?
How rare? 1%.
Wow. I, I actually don't have, I
don't know anybody who's a reflector, so I don't really.

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Know that much about Reflector? I know.
Well, yeah. And it's, you know, obviously
they're really, it's different to meet them because they are
more rare. But these are people that are
incredibly, again, I actually wouldn't be surprised if you
resonate with some of these qualities because again, our
design is so much more than our type.
And so like there are pieces foryou that I imagine resonate
here, but. I can't wait.

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I know reflectors are so sensitive to their physical
space. They're always kind of taking in
and mirroring the space that they're in.
And so it's so important for them to be such a ruthless
curators of where they're spending time and who they're
spending time with because they're feeling it so intensely.
And they're very fluid people. Like they will have days where
they feel like manifesting generators, like generators,
like projectors. So their job is really to kind

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of honor what feels like them that day and not try to kind of
be just one thing. And these are people that are
just so objectively wise, Like they could often come into a
situation and see exactly what'snot working and how it can be
improved. And so they tend to thrive when
they're like at the center of a community or where they're
really in a position where, like, their perspective is seen
as one of their greatest assets.How beautiful.

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OK, can we dive in deeper now tomy chart?
I feel like now we like touched on the surface and now we're
gonna take you guys deeper alongthe journey just so that you
guys can understand truly just the power of human design and
getting in that nitty gritty. You know, we like touched on the
top layer just so that everyone can feel like they can take

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something away. But honestly, I found like
watching people's sessions with human designer astrology, like
literally, I learned so much from other people learning about
themselves, like because then you notice things within
yourself. So I'm just so excited to dive
in and not going to lie, this isdefinitely one of the reasons
why I took this interview because I was like, I really

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want to know about. My humans.
I'll take a little reading. I know it.
I wasn't. I mean, the girlies like love to
know how you feeling. We're, we're we're a good time
to dive in, right? Oh yeah, let's do this.
Perfect time. Yes, OK.
There are so many things to share.
Oh my gosh, I don't honestly even know where to start.
But here I'm going to start withtwo pieces that pop up and then

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I want to kind of come back to your decision making because
that's obviously quite important.
The piece that I was looking at that feels like might resonate
with you, that's similar to reflectors is that you are
somebody who's incredibly sensitive to your physical
space. And if you are familiar with
human design, this comes from what we call an open identity
center. It means that you being in the
right space is the key to finding the right flow in your

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life. And I mean that in the big and
small ways, one, living in the right place, living in a home
that you love. And I know you live in Hawaii,
living in the place that you love, but also like in small
ways, like going to a restaurant.
I mean, like, I don't like this table.
This hotel doesn't feel right. I'm going to move like you are
meant to be quite high maintenance about your space
because it really has quite an impact on you.
And the other piece that comes with this sensitivity to space,

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which feels is unrelated but is is somewhat connected, is that
you are here to express your purpose in many different ways
over the course of your life, your job, especially I think 26.
Like I'm gonna cry. No, cuz the way that I was on my
gratitude walk this morning and I was just like, it's OK not to
know exactly what your purpose is right now because I feel like
there's so many. There are so many and I would

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say like the biggest, the way that I tend to kind of think of
the shadow element of this part of your chart is this constant
pursuit. It's like I have to find my one
purpose. I have to find what I'm here to
do, which honestly, like my guess and take or leave anything
I say is going to be an unsatisfying journey because
you're bigger than anyone purpose.
You'll land. And I think that feels right.
And then be like, I want to break out of this because like a
new part of me wants to express.And so I think of the wisdom of

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this part of your design as surrendered.
The question to ask yourself is not who am I, but what feels the
most like me today? And how can you kind of keep
asking yourself that question and allow the evolution?
And of course, that might manifest as many different
purposes over the course of yourlife.
But even on a smaller scale, youmight find that like different
friends pull out different partsof you, different conversations
pull out different parts of you,different seasons of life pull

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out different parts of you. Like you're just so vast and
your expression and life is probably going to feel better
when you embrace that rather than trying to be a little more
fixed, which many of us are meant to be.
Wow, yeah, wow. That just resonates so deeply
because I feel like I do try to fight it and I'm like, oh, I
want to have this one purpose, you know?
And I feel like obviously my purpose over the last couple

(22:24):
years has been really loud with like the podcast and social
media and and making people feelseen by sharing like the things
I'm learning and the things I'm going through.
But I feel like it's, as soon asI've like gotten settled in it
like exactly what you said, likethe moment that I feel settled
in, it is a moment that another version of expression wants to
come out of me. Like immediately I like felt

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grounded in this home, in this space and just felt like
everything was super secure withlike social media, the podcast,
everything. And then the moment it's like
that, I'm like, I just don't even want, I don't know if I
want this anymore. And, and I, I love what you
said. Like, rather than fighting it,
like giving myself permission tobe like, OK, like who do I want
to be today? What do I want to pour myself

(23:07):
into today 'cause like you said with the generator, it's like,
that's how I, how I, you know, maintain the, the energy and the
vitality that I desire is like through the honoring of that.
So that resonates so deeply. I feel like there's a part of me
that gets fresh is frustrated hearing that, though, because
I'm like, I know that like, and I know it's gonna be a practice

(23:28):
a a lifelong practice of the surrender.
Yeah. And also when I brought up, you
know, there are parts of our design, we call them our open
centers, but those are the areasthat often tend to present the
biggest challenges, but also thebiggest areas of growth.
So honestly, I went straight into that for you like so there.
And what is it? Called of.
What was this called? The open Identity Center?
And like, without getting too technical, if you're looking at
your chart and you pulled it up and they're a little diamond in

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the middle is white, then that'strue for you too.
But honestly, like, I have to say that I'm so grateful
whenever I get the chance to talk to somebody in their 20s
with the center open because there's just like so much
pressure to figure yourself out.I remember talking to a 23 year
old a few years ago and she was just like, Oh my God.
Like I'm like walking into my career being like, what is my
thing? And she's like, God, it's such a

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relief to be like, no, what is my thing right now, you know?
And like, how can like, that thing keep changing?
And like, how can I not force myself to be, you know, more
linear than maybe my path is meant to be?
Thank you. Wow, I feel so stupid.
I'm like, OK, yes, I never have.No one had ever told me about
that center yet. So that's.
I know I'm, I'm skimming past the basic stuff.

(24:32):
I'm skip past it. I know this, yeah.
I like, I like the deep. I like, I'm like, let's go, OK?
Another piece that comes up, which again presents a potential
challenge, but also an area for growth, is called your open
throat center. I'm only sharing these words
because I feel like some people might be like, Oh my God, Aaron,
I know the human design chart. Tell me what you're talking
about. But it means that you are
somebody who's meant to be a masterful communicator, but your

(24:56):
gift is not communicating in a really fixed, consistent way
where you show up each day at the microphone and like, like,
this is who I am. Like you are here to express
yourself in a bajillion different ways.
And like, you often won't know what you want to say until the
moment's there and the invitation's there.
And you're like, this is what I must express.
And so your greatest gift is often in your spontaneity of
your communication and the unplanned words that you have.

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And, and it's funny, I was just doing a podcast a few days ago
with somebody that also has thisand she's a speaker.
And it was so interesting because she often would feel
this need to like plan a talk and like have it all listening
to this huge talk. And she's like, I don't want to
plan it because like, it's not until I get into the space that
I will feel the vibe and know what needs to be shared.
And so that's very much you thatlike you're a very powerful

(25:39):
communicator. You can say what people need to
hear at the perfect time, but often the best communication
comes when you don't try to planit and you kind of release
control or structure around yourcommunication.
Wow that resonates so deeply because I am like, I don't.
I don't plan anything out. Like when I record an hour long
podcast I'll probably write down3 bullet points.
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dopamine and escapism. Like literally like 3, like
probably like 10 words total. And like just in case I get like
a little lost and want somethingto like, you know, go off of.
But I do agree. And I think it's interesting in
relationships too, because I do feel like the superpower that I
have with my friends is always saying what they need to hear in

(27:29):
that moment. But it's never like, oh, this is
the exact way that I respond. Like, I have a friend who she's
training for somatic therapy, and sometimes she'll respond to
me in the same way every single time because that's what she's,
like getting trained to do. And like, just this active
listening. And I'm very much of the friend
that sometimes I can like, drop in and like be in the heart.
And then other times I'm like, so silly and just want to make

(27:50):
them like, kind of get out of their head or like, you know,
it's like whatever that moment presents.
And I feel like that resonates so deeply and like honoring the
spontaneity and like knowing that's a gift.
And yeah, I love that so much because I, I just, yeah, I
totally resonate with that. And I feel like I follow it and
I honor it already. Yeah.
Which makes me. Happy.
I love it. Yeah.

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It means that it's a lesson thatyou're going to learn and you
already have learned it, you know, and it also means that,
like the things that we're here to learn are also the gifts that
we're here to share. And so like, you're really here
to learn to kind of release the pressure of communicating to be
more spontaneous, but you also are here to help others find
their voice to like, identify, like how they can really attract
attention and communicate in themost authentic way.
So and and similarly, like, eventhough your own direction might

(28:34):
not always feel crystal clear, you're gonna help others have
clarity around their directions.So it's kind of annoying
sometimes that it's like, I can't figure this out for myself
and yet I'm so good at this for other people.
Do you feel that? Yes, no, literally the way that
like after I talk with my friends, they're like, OK,
perfect. I feel like I have everything
figured out now. Like we've debriefed and then

(28:56):
I'm just like sitting here like almost pushing them along.
Or I feel like I've had friends that I've almost like helped
find themselves and then our friendship falls out and then
they go on this journey and it'slike, sometimes just like being
a part of somebody's story can be hard just being like, but I
want that for myself. And like, not really like, I
don't, I don't really like have anybody in.
I have amazing friends who I love and I cherish and I have my

(29:17):
beautiful partner and I'm so grateful.
But I don't have anybody like mein my life, which I feel like a
lot of people have probably experienced that karma, you
know, of, of being who they needed, you know, And sometimes
I'm just like, damn, I wish I just had somebody like a little
bit like me sometimes. But knowing that I'm supposed to
be that for other people, it's equally beautiful and
frustrating. Right, right.

(29:39):
Well, and it's helpful to like how the awareness of like, Oh,
you know, I would really like that, you know, someone like
offer that direction, but also because your direction is so
fluid, it's also like, you know,I don't know, it's, it's never
going to be certain in the best kind of way.
Like I will say, I'm married to somebody that has this.
And like, I'm just so blown awayconstantly by like how many
sides there are to him. I'm like, how can you be like an

(30:01):
entrepreneur and an artist? And how can you also be a
speaker? And how can you also be this
like, I'm like, I don't get it. Like, how could you be all the
things and like and like, that'swhat these people are, you know?
Thank you. Yeah, that makes me feel so
seen, 'cause I'm like, that's definitely something.
Every single day. I'm like, who am I?
But then I'm like, oh, I'm all of it.
It's all of me. Yeah, exactly.

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OK, so let's just kind of rewindto decision making because this
is important. You are somebody that is meant
to have quite a strong gut response to the things that show
up in your world. It's very visceral.
It's in your belly. It's like something shows up and
it's like a draw or like contraction.
But when it comes to the big decisions in your life, you are
actually not meant to be spontaneous.
You are meant to, like, give yourself a day or two or three

(30:45):
and see how your feelings evolveor change.
And so as tempting as it might be to be, like, I'm going to say
yes, as soon as that instinct hits, the recommendation for the
big decisions is to just give yourself a beat, you know, and
see, like, are you still excitedthe next day and the day after?
And yeah, I'm curious, like, have you noticed that?
Like, do you think you're often more rash?
Yeah, I think, I think when I domake decisions out of just like

(31:09):
that pure excitement, I end up missing something and like
something kind of there's a mistake or it wasn't exactly
what I thought. Like, for example, like, Oh my
God, I got this like sponsorship, for example, in my
e-mail immediately respond to them.
I didn't read it all through andthey wanted like other things
for me that I didn't quote them for.
And then I was like, oh shit. Now like the budget is confusing

(31:29):
and I had to like go back or I was so excited about booking
this retreat house and I like was like, Oh my God, like
telling all my friends and like not taking AB and just like
immediately booking it and literally like the retreat house
like denied me the Airbnb, whichhas never happened before.
They told me like the house is being sold.
Maybe so that's why. But it was so interesting
because it was literally the universe being like no, chill

(31:52):
out, like like just because you're excited and it seems
perfect in the moment. I do think that I need to take
time. I think especially when it comes
to communicating with people, I can have this like immediate,
like I need to tell them how I feel right now.
And I think the mature version of me has learned that like
sleeping on it is something thathelps me find more clarity later

(32:12):
on when it comes to how I want to show up and how I want to
communicate and what I want to say.
Just taking AB because I, I can,I can be rash, I can be fiery.
And I, I do, I think I get really excited, like child
excite childhood excitement excited, you know, And I think,

(32:32):
yeah, I, that's the one thing I do remember from my first human
design reading, is that giving myself kind of that space to
feel the wave of the emotion is like what I really personally
need. God, those are really amazing
examples. But like that's and I have the
same thing even though I'm a different type.
So you kind of start to see how things branch out.

(32:53):
But yeah, you're going to be really excited and that's
amazing. And like, but then you can kind
of see things through rose colored glasses and then you
like wake up the next thing you're like, oh, wait, I don't
want that. Or like, this is not as cool,
you know? So there is just something about
giving yourself a pause a momentto before you say yes.
And it's not because your initial instinct is incorrect.
It's often because you need things to settle a little bit

(33:14):
and also like you often need more information.
And I love the way you articulate it because it is this
very childlike excitement. It comes from this really like
amazing place where it's like, Oh my God, I can't wait.
And then like, it's just happened at the right time.
And so there are some people that are meant to be super
spontaneous, and that's just notyou and me.
I actually love that. I love that you're telling me
this right now because I feel the pressure to be spontaneous

(33:35):
because I look at my friends whoare spontaneous and, and I've
always been like, oh, I wish I could be that person, but I know
that I'm not. You know what I mean?
And I think just knowing like I don't have to be spontaneous,
like I don't have to be. No, and like and honestly, most
people aren't meant to be. It's so wild because we all feel
not we all, but many of us feel pressured to be really fast.

(33:56):
Over 50% of us are meant to takea lot more time with our
decisions, you know, and so like, and some people are meant
to be like lightning fast. And so it's just like, it's so
amazing to understand our own way of making decisions and the
people around us, you know, hence the book.
But like, I tell a story in the book about a couple that was
trying to decide whether or not to move to the East Coast.
And one of them was lightning fast.

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She knew she was like East Coastweek, here we come, like New
York City, I'm in. And she was so frustrated with
her husband because she felt like he was waffling.
She felt like every day he felt something different.
And when I looked at his design,I was like, he's actually meant
to give himself a full month before he says yes, which might
even seem incomprehensible to you and me.
But like, what she perceived as indecisiveness was simply his

(34:40):
way of accessing clarity, was simply his path towards clarity.
And so it was just so revelatoryfor her to be like, oh, like,
there's nothing wrong with his process.
It's just different than mine. So what part of that chart can
like tell, can show you and tellyou like somebody needs like
usually a month or somebody needs like a night of sleep or
like somebody is that like lightning fast response?
Like what part of the chart evenshows that to you?

(35:03):
It's called the authority, and it basically is the piece that
kind of speaks to like what is your way of accessing your
knowing? Is it your voice?
Is it time? Is it space?
Is it your gut? Is it specific questions like
whatever that thing is? OK, so cool.
Sorry I just wanted not sorry, but I was just like I'm so
curious. I like love learning about the
more like detailed aspects. OK, I there's another very

(35:27):
detailed part I want to dive into with you.
I don't know why I feel called to do these things with you.
No, listen to your intuition. Like it's all literally like.
If if it's. Coming up.
Let's do it, OK? Well, this comes from a piece
called your incarnation cross and it kind of speaks to your
grandeur purpose. And there's nothing to do with
the information. It's just part of who you are.
But two of the things that come up, which I, I feel like I just

(35:49):
see in you already with only knowing you for about 35
minutes. But one is like, there is this
like innocence about you. And like the innocence is
really, it's like, it's basically this ability to like
experience hard things in life and just like find your way out
of them and like inspire others with like your ability to just
like remain a child throughout it all.
And like, I, I mean, a child in the most positive way, you know,

(36:12):
like remaining like positive andremaining and like having that
perspective. Like you might go through big,
intense, hard experiences in your life and yet you carry all
this resilience and ability to kind of weather them as yourself
in a way that isn't meant to make you jaded.
You don't know, yes, No, you don't understand.
Literally like like honestly over like Venus retrograde, like

(36:32):
time period the last month and ahalf, like I definitely just was
like, where is my joy? Where is my spark, right?
And that's like such a basis of who I am.
Like with that childlike wonder innocence.
And I was like shuffling cards and I was like, what do I need?
I was like at the beach. And literally the card that fell
out was innocence. Like this was like 4 days ago.

(36:53):
And so I feel like that resonates so much because it's
like I always have like that part of myself.
But I think also I had to like learn how to feel really
confident in it because people would like not take me seriously
or like, not realize like how brilliant and smart I am because
I have this like very childlike,joking, fun like manner.

(37:14):
And just realizing that that's such like a gift and like such
like a blessing in my life. And, and you know, I think when
I was thinking about my joy and my spark and like, where is she
and like unlock and just like unlocking her.
And I'm already feeling so much better, honestly, like the last
couple days and like so much more free after going through

(37:36):
the process of just feeling kindof low and and dark.
But the messages that were coming through for me was a lot
about like your innocence and your childhood wonder, like, and
your fun and your play and your joy.
Like, it is important. Like it is the most, it is the
most for me, like the most important thing.
It's like where I find my life source energy and just, yeah, I,

(38:00):
I think, I think I can get a little in my head sometimes.
And I, I love the idea that tapping into the innocence is
what frees me. And Oh, I was OK, what I was
thinking of the other day as I was like, what will cynicism do
for me? Like honestly, nothing.
Like I'm just not meant to be that person.
And I feel that I think I can get disappointed in myself when

(38:23):
I do like, like fall off of likethat truly aligned part of me,
you know, But I, I do know that that is like the pathway home is
honestly to like the innocence. And I feel like it's something I
didn't like about myself for a long time.
But now as I'm growing older andrealizing, Oh no, this is not
just like me being a child, thisis literally like actually my

(38:44):
energy like is yeah, this youthful energy.
And that's a beautiful thing. I feel like I've just, I've,
I've gained a lot more appreciation for it honestly in
the last in the last year or two.
It's so beautiful hearing you say that.
And I feel like, you know, it's interesting.
Like, yeah, your purpose is meant to take many different
shapes over the course of your life.
But like this kind of like innocent childlike wonder is

(39:08):
like a through line throughout it all.
So it's like, yeah, like things can be fluid and adapt, but
like, this is just like part of you that is really inspiring to
others because you also, like, are able to maintain it
throughout whatever life throws at you.
So it's just like a part of yourpurpose.
And then the other part, which Ialso see in you is just like the
zest for life. It's just like the zest for just
like and making things better and improving things and kind of

(39:30):
this like natural energy that you carry.
So I think. And what is that part called in
my chart? That's gate 58.
Gate 58. Never heard of her, love her.
I know, and the innocence was Gate 25.
And what is it? Innocence?
Was Gate 25 OK? Yeah, yeah.
So 25 is big for you. OK, OK, so there's a thing
called your profile, your 51 profile have.

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You I do know, I do know a little about my 51, but for
people that don't know about your profile, what is a profile
in human design? So the profile, I don't know,
it's like such a, well, sorry, Ido know.
But like it's such a versatile part of your chart.
Like I think of it mostly as kind of the way to align with
your purpose and walk an alignedpath.
But it like gives us so much information around like how to
open relationships, how to U.S. market ourselves, like it's kind

(40:15):
of endless and what it can offerus.
But I actually was thinking about your Phi one when you were
talking about the role that you play for friends, because you're
somebody who can really easily be a fixer, a helper, a savior.
Like people could really sense pretty immediately to you that
like you can help them in some way and they can like sense
possibility in you, which is obviously like a real gift of
yours. And for you, there's a real

(40:36):
lesson that like you're not hereto just be a fixer.
Like you have to be seen beyond your ability to fix and help and
save and like being in relationships that give you
space to kind of be all the different sides of you and don't
kind of put you on a pedestal orin a box in any kind of way.
Yes. And then do you feel that?
Yeah, I feel like the friendships that I've had, like
my friendships now, like at 26, like I feel like my early 20s

(40:57):
was a lot of like shedding of old friendships that didn't
really fit. And now I feel like I've really
found, you know, my core people like a a small group, but I feel
like something that they do giveme permission to be is honestly
messy and not all put together. Where I feel like when I was
younger, the friendships that I had, I was helping you know,

(41:17):
them a lot with whatever they had going on at the time that I
would almost lose myself in themsometimes.
And also now as an adult, I've also realized that when I do
start to feel like I've had people be attracted to me for
that reason, like they see that possibility.
They see I can help them. They see that almost like being

(41:39):
in my world, like raises them up.
And sometimes, and I feel like I've learned as I get older, I
actually don't want that pressure.
And I've actually had to like kind of tell people like, I
really can't handle the expectation you're putting on me
so soon in this relationship. Like people will put so many
expectations on me right away. Like, Oh my God, you're such a
good friend, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, but I don't maybe

(42:01):
wannabe for you, like I maybe don't have the space for this
specific friendship right now. And like it's happened a couple
times where I'm just like, I don't really like want this
friendship because I feel like they want me to like be a meshed
and like help them and save them.
And I just like don't have this at first.
I like do feel like I have the space because I care so much and
I see something in them that I like that I care about and that

(42:24):
I want to like protect. I have that energy of it, but
then after a while I'm like, wait, like I actually don't have
the space like fully care for this person that I don't really
know. And we're only been friends for
like 4 months and now they're expecting all these things to
me. So I definitely relate hard to
that. And just learning as I grow
older and opening myself up to friendships who really do, like,

(42:45):
have that willingness to want to, like, take care of me as
well and also let myself be messy.
Like, yeah. Totally, and I feel like, you
know what I often hear for people that have this five in
their profile is like, and by the way, if you're listening and
you look up your profile and yousee that fraction number on your
35515225, this also all applies to you.
I think that like they feel likepeople can like be disappointed

(43:07):
in their humanity. They like put them in such a on
such a pedestal that like when they discover they're human
because we all are, it's like a disappointment.
And so that's kind of where fives can get stuck.
And So what I love hearing you say is that clear communication
is one of the biggest selves here.
Just like I need to be really clear, like what you can expect
from me and what you can't see there like are no room.

(43:28):
No, there's no room for all these like illusions or ways you
think I might be. And then the other piece that I
would say for you is that because people can like project
so much onto you, it's so important for you to just stay
very grounded in your gut to make sure that what you're
saying yes to is like coming from like, I want to do this.
This feels like an authentic expression of me, not because
like somebody else thinks that I'd be good at it, not because
somebody else wants this from me.

(43:49):
So it's so easy for fives to getso swept away by other people's
ideas for them. Wow.
Yeah, no, totally. And I do feel like it's just
been a process and I am so proudof myself, like because I feel
like when I look at my friendships now and also the way
that I operate in relationships,I feel like I've learned from
this placement a lot and this aspect.
Yeah. And then the other part of your

(44:11):
profile, the one so true for onethrees, 1 fours, 4 ones and five
ones, it's like you're just likean inquisitive, curious
investigative person. Like you're here to like dive
deep, like you're to understand things.
And so like, you know, even though I talked about your
purpose being multifaceted, multidimensional, like one way
to kind of help guide your energy is asking yourself the
question. Like, what is the thing that I

(44:32):
want to learn all the details about?
What is the thing that I just like cannot stop learning about?
Like I want to like understand like maybe 2 minutes.
Like I need to know the gates. Like what does that mean?
Whatever The thing is? Like it's like, what, what are
the details that are calling you?
I know it's a weird question, but like, that's kind of like
the guide for you. And like, if you're in a field
where you're like, I don't actually care about mastering
the details anymore. Like then that's an often often

(44:53):
an indicator that like a course correction is needed.
Oof, me up right now. No 'cause that's so me.
Like I'm the type of person likewhen I Start learning about
something like I just want to dive all in.
I want to learn about the science behind it.
I want to, you know, speak aboutit with multiple people and just
like ingrain it even deeper. And I am definitely such a

(45:14):
curious person. And what about like, I mean, I
guess like sometimes I feel likecuriosity is what guides me and
it's what lights me up and it's what excites me.
Even in relationships, people's like people are like, what's
your love language? And I'm like curiosity, like
when people ask me questions about myself, like when people
want to like pay attention and like know me.

(45:36):
Like that to me is love. Like that is like the deepest
form of love to me. And that's how I show love to
other people is I ask them questions, I get curious, I dive
in. I'd ask follow up questions.
I want to know the details. I want, I want to spill the tea.
Like that's just like how I connect with the people that I
love. And I guess if I'm not feeling
curious about something right now and I don't really know what
it is, like what, what would be your advice for me according to

(46:01):
my design? If I don't have something that's
really pulling me in curiosity, It almost feels like sometimes
that happens because of like a blockage of energy or I'm not
exactly sure. But I'm curious your thoughts on
that because I do know that curiosity lights me up.
But like right now I'm like, what am I curious about?
What do I want to, especially after being almost like a high

(46:23):
achieving child growing up like in school and always like, you
know, getting really good grades, like being like the star
of certain shows like all this, like kind of like gifted child
tendencies. Like that pressure to always be
learning about something new. And like I feel like I've
changed my path and changed my curiosity so much so many times
that right now I'm at the place of like, what am I curious

(46:45):
about? And do I want to be curious
about anything? But them being like no curiosity
lights me up. But not knowing what that thing
is like, what do I need to do? I'm so glad you asked that
because it speaks to a really important part of your chart
that I skipped right over. And it's a big part of the book,
which is around how you can create the right opportunities
for yourself. And so for you as a generator,

(47:08):
you are really here to allow things to come to you.
You're not here, like, sit at home and be like, what is the
next brilliant idea I'm going tocome up with out of thin air?
It's instead about paying attention to what's showing up
in your world and what's kind ofnaturally sparking your gut
feeling. And so for you, like, I would
actually just give yourself moreto respond to if nothing's

(47:28):
coming. It's not like a a problem you
want to solve at home. It's more like, OK, if I like go
on walks and I'm in in conversation or listening to
podcasts or reading books, like what are the things that are
pulling me towards it? And so like, I would think about
kind of how to widen the inputs and see if anything else sparks
within you that you're like, oh,I have to learn about this.
I think some other tools are letting go of things that no

(47:49):
longer excite you because that just gives you a lot more space
for things that do excite you tokind of come in.
And then the other piece is thatas a generator, like you are so
magnetic when you're really lit up by how you're using your
energy. So I would also ask yourself,
like, how could I create a little bit more space and time
for like a thing that really lights me up every day?
And it could be totally unrelated to work or studying or

(48:10):
anything, but it's like, I love doing yoga.
I love going for a walk. I love whatever it is.
Like just like carving out that space kind of helps pull more
and more in your direction. I love that so much and I love
the first one specifically. I feel like that one relates
creating more opportunity for inputs because I think
especially sometimes as somebodywho is like working online on my
computer, like, you know, I havean assistant and a manager, but

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a lot of what I do is solo. I just noticed like if I'm at a
coffee shop and I spark up a conversation, like it does light
up something inside of me and gives me more clarity and like
those little moments give me more clarity.
So I really do love that idea ofOK, instead of sitting at home
and being like, what do I need to do?
Like, like that's, that doesn't work for me.

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I know that I know ideas just drop in and I know that's how I
operate and going out and creating more input is going to
allow me to be pulled different directions to listen to my gut
response. So I, that's like an amazing
piece of actionable advice I've actually never gotten before
Aaron. So thank you so much.
Because I think sometimes I forget, you know, because I work

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so much from home and by myself and I'm just like when I am
traveling, for example, I feel so inspired because I feel like
I'm so drawn to different thingsAnd I, I, I think it's because
I'm increasing my inputs. Yeah, you're giving yourself so
much more to respond too. And then I think another piece
there related is around just like again, being in spaces that
you really enjoy because that islike such a, you know, that gets

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you and the flow in such a beautiful way.
Wow. So tell me, is there anything
else you want to dive into with my chart?
OK, I'm gonna do one more quick piece.
OK, OK, OK, OK. And that that piece is just
around the fact that you're somebody who's like very
innovative like you like are here to kind of bring newness to
anything that you touch. You're not really here to do
things in the way that others have done.
But why I want to bring it up isthat the energy of this operates

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in a very particular way, which means that like they're meant to
be periods of your life where like there's so much momentum
and like things are really happening.
You're like, Oh my God, look at all this.
And then it's also also often followed by a period of like,
not much happening. And I can feel like things are
slowing down. And I just, I, I share that to
say that like momentum is not meant to be consistent for you

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and the moment that things slow down or when things are actually
recalibrating and preparing you for the next big jump.
And so like I would see the likelower, slower periods as equal
and as important as the outward growth period.
So like for you it's around likethe pulse being on or off, and
the pulse is not meant to alwaysbe on.
Wow, and what part of the chart is this if people are curious

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for them? That is your 360 channel.
Wow OK that's why you guys need an actual rating because this is
literally science. Like, like this is deep.
The 360 channel, I've never heard of that before.
I honestly want to look into it because honestly, that makes me
feel so seen because that is thestory of my life.

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There's just these chapters where it's like crazy momentum
and like everything's moving. And then I've also just like the
stillness and the nothingness and how I get so uncomfortable
in that. And I judge it versus just being
even though, you know, even though my soul, like I, I know

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like I'm like, OK, like this is like, yeah, like you said, a
recalibration moment. And I love it.
I just love that it's a part of my chart because it just makes
me be like, OK, this is what is supposed to happen.
So what is like, what would be like for somebody else?
Like what is the other like sideof that?

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In terms of they don't have that.
Yeah, they don't have that. Well, I think some people like
it's, it's not really like an onor off, like we can all have
different cycles in our life. But like, I think for you,
there's very intense, like it's your honor, you're off kind of
like it's like really happening or like things are slower.
Other people just like don't quite have that like intense up
and down. Like it could be like a slower

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cycle. It could be like actually more
consistent momentum. It's kind of more of a gradual
thing. But like that intensity is very
unique to you. I have that in my design too.
And you're saying like, yeah, the extremes of like momentum.
So you have that in your design.Like how?
I mean, it seems like also because you're a projector
though, like you appreciate yourmoments of stillness also.

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But like for me who's like a generator who like craves that
vitality and that go like, what would be your advice for me in
this? Yeah.
And also, like I would say that it's about finding really
satisfying ways to use your energy in those down periods
too. Like it might be less around
creation and sharing, and it might be more around making

(52:50):
music or making art or oh. My God, you're so intuitive.
And like, that's what I do. I I write music, Yeah.
Oh, beautiful. Yeah, my husband's a musician
too, so I see it in him, you know, it's just like there's
like, so I would say it's like it's, it's not about not
creating, but it's probably about creating differently and
like a little bit less output focus and more around just like
regenerative focused. Wow, Aaron, you are fucking

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amazing. Can I just say that like I am so
grateful and so overjoyed because I feel like everything
we talked about today, like the listeners took something even
from my personal design for themselves.
Because I feel like we went in and out of like the design, but
also like the advice and the applicable nature of it.
And I'm just like, where can everybody find the book?

(53:33):
Where can they find you? Where can they get more from
you? Where can we learn more about
human design? Give it to us.
Well, thanks for saying that. As a projector, I love
recognition, so that means the world, I think.
Incredible. And you're so grounded in your
energy and like, it just feels. Yeah.
So beautiful. Thank you so much.
This was such a joy. It's such a joy.

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I think that you can get the book at
humandesignblueprint.com/preorderDash book.
You'll probably go to the homepage and you'll see it
though, because we're launching today.
The book is a really amazing place if you're just like, I
want to know how to use my design, like how can I actually
use it to deepen my relationships?
How can I use it to find my nextstep?
How can I use it to like up level my career?
It's the place for that. It's about how to practically

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apply it to your life. It's meant to be a resource that
you come back to again and againand also can learn about all the
people you love most guides on your design which dive into all
these really intricate pieces like we talked about, like your
channels and the centers and allthose things.
What was the discount code? Did we talk about a discount
code? What is the a word?
I think skinny dipping. Skinny dipping is the.
Word fell out of my brain. Already that's the discount

(54:36):
code. And then I also have a coaching
certification if you're like I want, I want all the details,
give it to me all I want to learn all the things.
And then on Instagram, I'm at Aaron Claire Jones and also at
Human Design Blueprint. Oh my gosh, so cool.
Me immediately. Being like, oh, human design, I
know I saw in you I was like, I gotta.
Share for you your sake. Yeah.

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I'm like, OK, coach, are those the details?
Yeah, I'm like. OK, I'm in I.
Also am just so incredibly excited to get the book and for
any it's getting dipping listeners that get the book,
like let's book club it, let's talk about it, let's read it and
let's discuss because I'm sure we'll be learning so much about
ourselves in the process. And yeah, that's also so cool.

(55:18):
So the the reports that you do that's personalized, that's just
like a written report that gets dropped to people.
OK, so cool. That's awesome.
That's such a great offering. I love.
Like just reading about, like whatever modality I'm learning
about, I know. And it's also really practical.
Language, it's not going to be like you have the gate.
It's more like this is how you operate.

(55:39):
You know, it's like, I think that's always people get for
like their teams and their families because they want to
understand each person. So it's very accessible whether
you're newer and what a beautiful gift like you.
Could give that as a gift for somebody's birthday or Christmas
or whatever. That's so amazing guys, that you
guys need to go learn more aboutyour human design because
honestly, I everything I've learned about human design so

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far has made me feel so understood in who I am.
And I just can't wait to dive into this book and to learn just
like follow your journey and everything that you're doing
'cause I'm just seeing who everything is just happening,
but it's gonna even get bigger. I'm just just letting you know I
love you. Thank.
You for saying that this was such a pleasure And where can

(56:23):
everybody find you on Instagram?It's gonna be all guys.
Also, everything that we're talking about is going to be
linked below in the description,so you don't have to remember,
just go click the link. It's gonna be all there for you.
Including the discount code. Including the code.
Yeah, the on Instagram. I'm at Aaron Claire Jones and
also at Human Design Blueprint. Beautiful.
Thank you so much, Aaron. What is one last thing that you

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want to leave the skinny dippinglisteners with today?
One last thought on choices, human design, whatever,
whatever's coming up for you, what is the one last little
golden nugget? I think what comes up is whether
or not you choose to kind. Of dive into human design, it
just like offers us the most powerful reminder that we are
all wired differently. So I would just remind you if
there are any places where you're expecting a partner or

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friend to be like you, I would just reconsider.
Like maybe they're different or there any places where you're
like, wow, I'm trying to emulatetheir career, emulate their way
of doing things. Like I would take a step back to
be like, but does that actually feel like the best way to do it
for me? Thank you so much.
Bye. Guys.