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Honoring if you're in a period of pushing and doing because
you're motivated by something you're excited by because that's
how I felt, or you want to live your purpose, or you want to
build what you're doing. I never want to shame people for
pushing themselves and for following what they're called
here to do. But I also want to honor that
living in burnout is is is not the way you know, it's, I think
it is old paradigm too, where you have to push and force.
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And now I really think it's moreabout finding as much alignment
as you can. And I know for a lot of women,
that's like alignment. I can't have that.
I'm in a job, I'm doing all these things makes total sense.
But the more you can align yourself, even if you're working
hard, the better your life will be.
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Good morning, good morning for me.
I guess I don't know what time of day it is for you, but hello
my beautiful skinny dipping listeners.
I miss you guys so much. I know this season has been jam
packed with amazing guests that I just genuinely love so much
and I wanted to bring their stories to you and today is no
different. Krista Williams from almost 30
is absolutely fucking incredible.
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And I genuinely feel so gratefulthat she came to me and wanted
to be on skinny dipping during this, you know, contraction and
expansion moment of her premiering her book.
But before we dive into this episode, which I just will say
kind of changed my life, like, I'm not kidding.
The things that she told me resonated at such a deep level
that I'm like, OK, I will walk forward with this wisdom for the
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rest of my life. But before we get into it, I
wanted to update you guys with what's up because we just did a
guest season and I know you missme and I miss you.
I actually miss talking to you guys so much.
And I have been gearing up for fucking skinny dipping summer.
That's right, it's a full solo season.
OK, They're going to be like 20 minute, 25 minute bite size
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episodes that are, you know, thought pieces on topics that
are really interesting me where I can pull from my own
experience, I can pull from, youknow, channeling information
that comes through. I can pull from scientific
studies and case studies. Like I just want to really
create this season that I'm so proud of where I can bring you
intellectual pieces that stimulate your mind and create
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because it's really for the thought girls, the girls that
have lots of thoughts and just want somewhere to allow their
intellectual spirits to thrive. And also for the creative girls,
for the freedom girls. For the girls that want to be
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in legs and being in nature and living a life that they just
truly feel in alignment with. If that is you, skinny dipping
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want to be skinny dipping summerthis upcoming season that's
going to premiere in, it's like 2 to 3 weeks.
So keep an eye out. Follow me on Instagram at
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when do new episodes drop and everything like that.
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But I'm just so excited. And also we have like new just
like branding and visuals and just energy with the skinny
dipping world. I feel like I am changing so
much who I am on the inside and I want that to show on the
outside with my brand and with skinny tipping and everything
I'm creating. I'm hosting my first ever.
Not my first ever. Sorry, whoops.
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I'm not even going to cut that out because I just can't be
bothered. But my second ever women's
retreat in a couple weeks and I'm just realizing like that is
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And I'm looking forward to hosting hopefully two more, one
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description, but let's strip down and dive in.
I wanted to update you guys. What's my info for right now?
If it's your calling, it'll keepcalling.
And that's what I want you to think of when you listen to this
episode because it's like, you know, stepping into your power
isn't always easy and sharing your gifts isn't always easy.
But it's like, if it's your calling, it'll keep calling.
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Crystal Williams, everybody. This episode's fucking amazing.
Let's strip down and dive in. I'm Kayla Rose, This is skinny
dipping. I can't wait to catch up with
you guys in a couple weeks. And I feel like I've been
learning so much, so I can't wait to share with you.
Navigating growing up is absolutely crazy and that's why
having an Internet big sister isliterally key because what would
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we do without our favorite podcasters and without our
favorite Internet Big Sisters? And today I have somebody who
honestly, I don't even know how this happened, but I've been a
big fan for a long time and it just seemed like it worked out
last minute. And I'm just so incredibly
grateful to have her on the showas she is in this launching
period of her book and in this expansion era.
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And I'm just so excited to dive into everything today.
So skinny dipping listeners, welcome on Crystal Williams, the
Co host of Almost 30 and also the co-author of their new book
Almost 30, A Definitive guide toa life that you love for the
next decade and beyond. Welcome on the podcast
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Beautiful. Are you ready to strip down and
dive in? I'm ready, it's all I do.
We've had the best time for the 15 minutes we were on before, so
ready to keep cruising. You're the sweetest 5 ever.
I'm so excited. I love talking to authors,
especially in the process of them, you know, expanding and
releasing and birthing this new creation.
And something I love to ask authors is what parts of
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yourself did you have to confront during the process of
writing this book? Because I feel like as we write
about ourselves and as we write about our life, probably so many
different parts of ourselves come up, maybe parts that we've
been avoiding. And I'm just so curious, what
was the process like for you? Yeah, so I think I never felt
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worthy that anyone would listen.And I think I never, as a second
thing, did enough internal excavation to really see what
stories I had to tell. So I was always someone that was
so focused on everyone else. I mean, I interview people for a
living, and so I was always interested in their stories,
what they have to say. I always wanted to help people
cultivate and feel more interesting themselves.
So I think in the writing process, I had to give myself
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permission to be like, this story is worth sharing.
And what's interesting about being an author and writing a
book is that it's not always thestories that are magnificent or
wild, or you're climbing Mount Everest or you do this crazy
thing. Sometimes it's the most mundane
stories that people connect with.
I think that's why Brené Brown and Glennon Doyle are so
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popular, because some of the goals that they shared in books
like Untamed are just really basic and simple, but just
really hit a thread and relatability.
So I had to really do excavationof myself and my stories, and I
had to give myself permission tobelieve that I was worthy of
writing a book because yeah, it's it's not nothing in that
process. And just the last thing that
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I'll say, the book writing process for me was the best.
I felt like it was my joy and pleasure.
Marketing it and promoting it isa whole different beast for me,
a whole different set of fears. Holy claim, like what you've
written and also fully claiming your story.
Yeah, exactly. And it's also asking for help.
You know, you're you're asking people to support you.
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So you're asking for help. You're asking to be seen, you're
asking to be heard. You are putting yourself out
there in a really vulnerable way.
And so whenever we do big things, and I think your
audience are people that do big things, they put themselves out
there. They want big for their life.
They want to, they believe they're made for more.
I think it's really beautiful that you brought this up earlier
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before we started recording. And I meant this experience of
like how much comes up when you're expanding.
It's like expansion is so beautiful and we all want it.
Like we're always like, I want expansion, I want growth.
And then you're in it and it's actually really crunchy and it
actually feels uncomfortable. And it actually brings up so
many different things that you have to work through to prove
that you're available for the capacity of expansion that you
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want. Exactly.
Like it's so true. Anything I've anything I've ever
premiered ever, When I'm in thatprocess of birthing, that's what
I was telling you before. I literally feel physical
contractions and expansions. It's like birthing is this
energetic birth. And when we're about to give
something to the world that is our creation and our art and our
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words, I've just found in my life, like it is so fucking
uncomfy. Like it is like so icky and
sticky and uncomfy. And it's so funny because those
are the moments that we pray for.
Do you know what I mean? Like those are the as artists
and as CEOs, we're like, these are the moments that I pray for.
And then that moment comes and there's so much joy, but there's
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also so much anxiety. And I know that for me
personally, I can get in a little bit of like a self
judgement loop with that being like, wait, but why am I feeling
so chaotic or like so much is going on?
Like this is the moment that I've been waiting for and
praying for. How do you navigate like all the
big up and downs and emotions? Do you experience that ever?
Like that kind of feeling of like, wait, this is so much like
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you're on a roller coaster ride,but then you're like, but this
is also what I prayed for. Oh yeah, I, I think all the
time. I'm like, I've been in this
process of the book. I think the book process hits on
very specific things for me thatI need to heal.
So firstly, I see everything in my life that feels challenging
as an opportunity for growth. So I think the growth mindset
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where I'm like, this will benefit me in the end when we
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So like, why not growth? Opportunities, you know, of
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course, they seem like challenges and you know, I feel
like so much of, you know, the almost 30 vision is also like,
OK, what about like younger you though?
Like did she always see it as like when what age did you start
to see like, OK, this challenge,this pain coming in, This isn't
this is an opportunity right now.
This is God. This is the universe presenting
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me with an opportunity. But obviously most of us weren't
always that way or taught to be that way.
Oh. I wasn't that way.
I mean, what do you mean? I want to feel good.
I want to always feel good. I want to always feel
comfortable. I think when I went through the
Saturn Return, so almost 30 the book is about.
Let's dive into the Saturn return because that's a big part
of the book, right so let's diveinto it for the people I don't
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know, A lot of the girlies from the pot are astrology girly so
they. Don't know.
And they're going to be like, excuse me, girl, that ain't even
right. Like they're going to be
schooling me. So I'm not an astrologer, I'm
just an expert in transition andchange in this period, so.
And honestly, that's what it is.It's a period of transition.
And also like personal experience is fucking
everything. You don't have to be an
astrologer. Like you are living, breathing,
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you know what I mean? Yes, yeah.
So Saturn Return is a period that happens around the age of
29.5 for most people. It's from 27 to 30 about.
And it's really like your cosmichomecoming.
It's a cosmic rite of passage that we all go through if we
make it past 30. And it's really when everything
comes up for review to see if you're living in alignment.
So it will be very challenging. It will hit rock bottoms.
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You might lose a job, you might switch careers.
You might move. You might break up.
You might get together, you might have kids.
Transitions are happening. Changes are happening, just
supercharged transformation and change.
And during this period for me, Ifelt like I hit my rock bottom.
I felt so lost. I felt like I was supposed to be
in a career that I loved. I was supposed to be doing all
these things that I wasn't doing.
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And there was a lot of parts of my life that we're getting for
review, My friendships, my body,my relationships, my purpose,
all the things that we talked about in the book.
But for people that have gone through this Adam Return, it's
helpful to see the period and dates in your chart so that you
can kind of look at, Oh my God, I moved then or I had a baby
then or just looking at that's really helpful to understand
maybe what lessons you went through, what lessons you grew
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through. And then for people that are
younger that are about to go through their Saturn return, the
book will help you. But just knowing that like
Saturn is really showing you where you're not aligned for
your greatest good and for your alignment.
And so all the changes that you're going through and
challenges that you're going through may be painful, but it's
truly for your greatest good. And if it's not good, it's not
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done. That's like my favorite thing.
It's like, if it's, if you can'tsee the truth, then it's not
done yet. And so really just believing
that it's all working out for your greatest good.
But honestly, the truth of it, my age helps with that.
I've seen enough to know that like it all works out and I've
gone through enough to know thatit all works out.
And the more that I believe that, the more I experience the
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good as true. Wow, so many juicy Nuggets in
that. I'm just, like, soaking it in so
deeply, all your words and like,the way that you speak because,
yeah, transition periods are incredibly difficult.
And I love the thought of if it's not good, if it's not, if
you don't see the truth yet, if you don't see the plan and why
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this all had to happen exactly how it had to happen, then it's
not done yet. Yes.
And you it's not done processingor healing to do, you know, even
thinking about like I had a relationship that I just ended
and it was like, even there's still stuff to sift through.
So it was, I can't see the good yet.
So I'm still working through allthe lessons and learnings and
things like that. And in the end, I'm going to
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see, wow, this person showed me this, how we did this.
Like that is US even looking back on the good of life of our
lessons, of the things we've been through.
Because I know all your audiencehas been through hard things.
And I'm not saying hard things are fun or that we deserve them.
But what I'm saying is that it is our job, if we want to live a
life that we love to see these things as our potential for our
growth and our good. And that is really how you start
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to be the creator of your life. And that is really how you start
to become the person that you came here to be, because
otherwise you're just in victim mindset, which is.
Miserable and then our external world completely like reflects
our internal world and that victim mindset.
It's like whenever I'm in my victim mindset, I know her so
well. I know that part comes out and
she's like, I need lots of attention right now.
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And she starts, you know, and then the person stops me at the
light and flips me off or something.
And I'm like, the world is against me, but it's not.
And it's like the moment that weshift is the moment that our
external world shifts, which is what I love about this work,
like this work and like the workof your book and like everything
that people are diving into in this self exploration.
What I love about it is it it gives us the opportunity to
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shift our internal landscape so that our external world is
evidently better and more joyfuland more curious, even if we
have to go through the sticky stuff first.
Yeah. And I just, I always think like,
what else is the plan? You know, like, what else is it?
Because I think when people go externally for their whole
lives, you're just playing whackA mole with I got to change the
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relationship. I got to change the location, I
got to change the job. And I was doing that so much
Like everything externally had to change.
My body had to change my bank account, my friends, you know,
where I was going out on the weekends had to change.
And really, it's like when I shifted, everything in my life
shifted. And it wasn't overnight.
It took time. But not only do you get the
chance to love yourself, that shift and change where you're
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like, I actually this doesn't even need to shift because I
love myself, but you actually get to Co create a life that you
love with consciousness and withcreativity and with joy.
Yeah. And I love that nuanced
difference of like, OK, by changing your internal
landscape, it's not about actually fundamentally changing
who you are. Like it's not.
It's and actually to allow thosethings to change, we have to
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allow them to soften first. And the only way for it to
soften is not through the judgement lens, not through the
critical lens, but through that lens of like compassion and just
being like I am enough as I am now, even if I'm even if I'm
feeling all these things or evenif I feel unhealed or whatever,
like I am enough right now. And that softens so much so that
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things do have a chance to change and shift because or else
our internal landscape is so rigid if we're coming from that
judge mental lens. And I just noticed, as soon as
we offer compassion, as soon as we realize, oh, I don't have to
change, but I want to because I love myself, then it softens.
Oh, yeah. And you know, Carl Rogers, who's
the, like, godfather of therapy,He was a famous psychotherapist.
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He talks about the paradox of transformation.
And in the paradox of transformation, it talks about
in order to change something, you have to accept it.
And so whenever we want to change our relationship with our
self or, you know, our partner or our life or our body or
whatever it is, you have to likeaccept it as it is and be like,
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OK, I'm noticing that my relationship with my body is
really poor and that I really don't love myself.
And I'm just going to accept that for what it is right now.
I'm going to accept it. I'm here right now because if we
go immediately to the action of wanting to change or transform
or whatever, we're not loving itas it is.
If the goal is to love ourselvesas we are, we need to love
everything as it is right now. And a practice that I do really
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regularly is I will go, and I'lldo this most mornings.
I will go and think about every single area of my life, every
single situation, every single thing.
And I'll be like, I accept this as it is that relationship
that's giving me pain right now.I accept that as it is this,
this is in my sink. I accept that as it is, you
know, where I'm at in my career,every single thing.
And it can bring us such presence and peace.
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And when we do that, we just give such opportunity, not only
to clock our life and the goodness and the beauty and
everything, but really to give chance for beautiful things to
happen, like miracles and magic.Wow, honestly, I feel like I've
heard that said so many times, but for some reason when you
said that, it just hit so deeplyjust being like, yeah, just
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knowing that you actually have apractice with it.
Like this action will practice that you show up to where you're
like, I am going to have this like acceptance ritual basically
is what I would call it for myself.
I don't know what you call it, but just this moment of being
like, OK, I'm going to accept this.
That's, you know, this conflict in my relationship right now, or
I'm going to accept, you know what, you know, happened with my
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father or whatever it is. Like I just noticed.
Yeah. The moment that I accept is when
I stop creating like my own internal chaos, basically.
So I just love that that you have that as a practice because
I'm sure as you've developed thepractice, it just becomes more
of a muscle that you can use andutilize.
Yeah, and anything bad that happens, it's like you like
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literally it's like this. It is like there's nothing other
than it is. So you have to just see it
clearly and then you're able to shift it or move it.
But I think people, you know, I love highest self stuff.
I've talked about that a lot. I work with highest self a lot.
I work my own highest self and my clients highest self.
But sometimes I get a little bitcurious about I don't really
think people understand the highest self is like the six
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dimensional soul. You know, divine aspect of them,
but I think people see it as like a version of them that's
perfect and a version of them that like has a lot of money or
has a lot. OK.
Yeah, has a lot of things and all these.
External like validations are like exactly yeah.
And I've just been curious aboutthat more because I'm like, I
don't. It's not about you constantly
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chasing this, this ideal versionof you.
It's about you accepting yourself in this now moment,
really. I love that and I feel like for
me, what I've been doing becauseI've been into like IFS,
internal family systems therapy.Basically, I'm certified.
I like practice that with my clients.
It's. It's definitely I'm just in the
beginning of my journey. Crystal you have you have to
understand like. This is on the physical life
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maybe. It's so exciting and something
that's helped me is the practiceof just sensing self.
And I feel like just going into meditation and being like, OK,
can I sense that my higher self or my true self is just present
right now? Just noticing if I'm having any
judgement. Is there a part of myself that
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has compassion still like, or ifI'm feeling chaotic or anxious
and like all over the place, like is there a part of me that
feels grounded right now? And just beginning to like test
my senses has totally strengthened my ability to be
like, OK, I know myself is here.I know my higher self can help.
Yeah, connecting and you having connection to self is like, I
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think one of my life goals is tohave the women that I work with
connect to self. Because once you have that
connection, I think when I got it, I've never lost it and I
felt like my life. Actually, there's two times when
I felt like my life began. The first time was when I got
off birth control. The mood queen.
Same. Mood and vibes I was like 20
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something and then the second time was when I found self and
self from. For anyone that's not familiar
with IFS. So internal family systems is a
psychotherapy technique created by Dick Schwartz.
It was to support originally eating disorder patients because
he was noticing that there was adiscrepancy between the eating
disorders patients desires and their actions.
They desired to eat well, they decided to take care of their
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bodies, but for some reason theywere binging or for some reason
they were restricting. So what was that discrepancy?
And when you can pull those things apart of like, I need to
understand why you're binging. What does that part of you have
to say? I need to understand the part of
you that wants to restrict. And I believe that there's an
infinite aspect of you, the soulthat's like perfect, all knowing
and all loving. So the self is really the most
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loving aspect of us. It's our soul, It's our deepest
connection to truth. And it's really that place and
state that you create from the best, that you live from the
best. And that is the goal of the
ultimate loving life experience.So beautiful.
I want to dive into some actionable steps, like some
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actionable takeaways. Those are like my favorite
little things, the skinny, the skinny dipping listeners.
Now I'm always coming out with the actionable steps and I feel
like the first one is obviously kind of this almost space for
acceptance that you create. And I think that would be such
an amazing thing for people to practice or take on.
And I was wondering if there waslike, maybe like two more that
we could give more actionable steps to navigating these
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transition periods and channeling the sense of self
when things feel chaotic or or when we can't see the plan or
when we can't see the why. Yeah.
And, and just know you're not alone and not seeing the plan
and not seeing the why. And I think I'll explain the the
tactical, but I just want to say, I think collectively now
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there's new timeline opportunities available.
And I think where previously there was very obvious
timelines, I think we've hit theend of them and the new Earth
and we're sort of creating thesenew timelines and experiences
and we're sort of now deciding what we want to go and where we
want to go as a collective. So it's actually really
beautiful and exciting and powerful that we don't know
where we're going because we're creating it in this now moment.
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So this opportunity for you is to create the life that you love
in every moment. And what that looks like now
versus then is going step by step.
So what is the next best right action?
What is the next best step? And I think before it was like
planning six months in advance, nine months in advance, and not
once a single one of my friends who are profound, deep, amazing
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entrepreneurs, healers, teachers, all these things are
planning longer than like three to six months maximum.
That's what I've been telling people.
OK, yes. Yeah, the world is changing so
quickly, like after 2020, like you can't just do that anymore.
So we're not planning far in advance.
You're going with the next rightaction and with the next right
action, then you're shown the next right action after that.
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So just focus on the next right action that you need.
It doesn't mean you can't visualize.
It doesn't mean you can't have big dreams.
But really, your most magical life will be bigger than your
visualizations. It's true, you know, it's.
True. Like it's, it's better.
It's better than you can imagine.
Better. And I've always found that.
So focusing on the next right step, I think is really good.
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And then I think during times ofuncertainty, the best things
that you can do for yourself arefocus on grounding your body in
the now moment. And these are the things that
people kind of eye roll out or like are like whatever, but
really getting connected to the earth, being present where you
are, taking salt baths, regulating your nervous system,
feeling your feelings when they come up, connecting with people
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and community. It's like we want to be in the
next step of like, what's the next step?
But we also want to be where we are because life is lived where
we are and in this now moment. So just being as present as you
can as possible and having little tools and rituals to
support you in the now moment because that's also where you're
going to get the right hit for the next step.
Literally amazing. You, you guys heard that right?
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I'm like, you guys heard that right?
No, it's so true, especially with the next actionable step
because I think as an entrepreneur and a spiritual
entrepreneur specifically, I think for me personally and a
lot of people in my audience whoare spiritual entrepreneurs and
creatives, it can feel like we are recreating the way of doing
things. And, and I'm sure you feel this
way too. It's just like, well, I want to
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do all the things and I don't want to burn out.
I want to, like, expand. And I also want to stay
grounded. Like, it's like we're creating a
completely new way of doing things that I just don't think
that was the societal norm before.
And what I always try to remind myself is that I need to give
myself grace because like, we are currently, like, this new
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wave of spiritual entrepreneurs are creating and paving the
path. We are creating the game plan
for other generations to follow.And I feel like, yeah, you talk
about that a little bit in the book, like managing burnout and
creating this new way. So can you relate to that?
Oh my gosh, so much. I think, you know, when we
started almost 30 in 26, like westarted recording in 2016, We
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put it out in like late 2016 andthe podcast landscape was
completely different. There wasn't big networks, there
wasn't like a lot of female shows, there wasn't a lot of
female duo shows. So we just kind of drew stuff up
and like we're like, whatever, let's see how this goes.
So for a lot of people that would be more challenging
because there isn't a blueprint.But for me, it was so much
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better because I had no one to compare ourselves to.
It was almost like whatever we do is going to be fine because
there's no expectations. So I actually thrive without the
blueprint. That's my preference.
That's my journey. I love it because if I have a
blueprint, then I'm then I'm throwing myself off.
I'm like, I should be myself. So people should really see the
fact that there's no blueprint for what they're creating and
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doing now as a good thing because then they know they're
following their souls calling and then they know they're
leading themselves to something that feels more true.
But to the point of burnout. You know, when we started the
show, I was working a full time job and I was so desperate to
not work in the corporate world and not live a life behind my
desk and in that environment that I would do anything.
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And I'm so grateful that we found almost 30.
But I was also burning myself out.
We went literally, we went on two world tours during that
time. We did retreats.
We were doing it all and I didn't feel good.
I didn't feel good in my body. We were stressed most of the
time, and it was the best years because it was popping, but it
was really hard on the body and in our lives.
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And so honoring, if you're in a period of pushing and doing
because you're motivated by something you're excited by
because that's how I felt, or you want to live your purpose or
you want to build what you're doing.
I never want to shame people forpushing themselves and for
following what they're called here to do.
But I also want to honor that living in burnout is is is not
the way you know, it's, I think it is old paradigm too, where
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you have to push and force. And now I really think it's more
about finding as much alignment as you can.
And I know for a lot of women, that's like alignment.
I can't have that. I'm in a job, I'm doing all
these things makes total sense. But the more you can align
yourself, even if you're workinghard, the better your life will
be. It's honestly so true.
I literally have attached to this as I am in alignment
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because wow, when we are in alignment it's like kind of the
thing you were talking about before, right?
Take the next actionable step and then the next step will show
itself. It's like if you can't see the
path, step and the path will appear.
That Rumi like saying is my favorite.
And I do feel like when I'm in alignment, I have the energy
that I need to take inspired action.
And when I'm acting, I know it'sfrom that place of inspiration.
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But also I totally agree with the nuance of like sometimes
you're in a push season and that's also just like just
acknowledging that like, I don'tknow, there doesn't need to be
like a good or bad or right or wrong or like any of that.
It's just like their life has just different seasons and it's
like, what do you need right now?
Yes. What does your body need right
now and how it changes also as we age and grow up?
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Yes, I think. Sorry dude isn't.
This one, Yeah, crazy. I'm snuggle.
I think too, it's like, yeah, first of all, in IFS is good
because you're not making anything good or bad.
And I think that's the thing in life, we don't want anything to
be necessarily good or bad, but we do want to think the energy
of the energy behind why we're doing what we're doing because
the intention is everything. So am I burning myself out
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because I don't think I'm worthyof receiving opportunity,
abundance support because I feellike I have to do it all to
succeed because I feel like hardwork equals success?
Or am I, you know, pushing myself and burning out because
I'm really called and inspired and I'm in a season of push
because something I'm thing is important and this is my moment.
And so every single thing is just about the energetic
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frequency behind whatever you'redoing, what you're doing.
Because then that's how we know that that energy that's creating
that experience is guiding you towards greater rather than
further away from yourself. Yeah, and it's coming from a
place of like, love and just like that energy, not just love,
but like the energy frequency oflove, like that, just like space
that it travels from. No, I literally love that.
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OK, last thing that I want to touch with you on and then we'll
head out because we got to get the girl to therapy.
I got to be in therapy. It's a girl who's got to go to.
Therapy, which I do, honestly, I'm like, I really need it.
No, I love that for you because it's so beautiful, like seeing
somebody at your caliber, helping so many people and
you're like committed to also yourself and getting help for
yourself. It's so that's like the type of
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people that I feel inspired by because that's you can tell
people are walking their fuckingtalk, you know.
Oh. I got a whole squad.
I know I got my whole squad of healers too.
I'm so grateful for them. I don't know what I would do
without them truly. I love that you are in Co
creation with your friend and I just think that's so incredibly
beautiful. And I just feel like it's so
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relatable. I love creating with friends.
And I'm just wondering like withlike, you know, Co creating, not
just like the podcast, but now the book.
Like this is a whole other thing.
Yeah. What is that experience just
creating not just with yourself,but like in this partnership and
like how does that impact the experience of the Co creation?
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Yeah, so for anyone listening, Ido the podcast with my best
friend Lindsay. And when we met, we were
friends, but we weren't friends for a long time.
So kind of right when we met, westarted the podcast and created
almost 30 and we really created it because we felt alone and we
felt like no one was having really deep, meaningful
conversations that we wanted to hear.
So it was like, I'm vibing with you.
I'm, you know, like we just havethis connection.
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And I'll never forget, you know,I was walking across my, my
living room floor and I heard this voice that was like, and
now you have the missing puzzle piece.
I just was like thinking, I'm like, wow, Lindsay's my missing
puzzle piece for my purpose here.
And you know, for anyone listening, I, I just want to say
this that I truly believe in soulmates and divine connections
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in life. And I do believe that you can
have a soulmate that's there fora short amount of time or a long
amount of time forever. Romantic friend, familial cat,
dog, whatever is absolutely one of my soul mates here to be with
me for a long time here to create almost 30.
So a lot of the success of our relationship I truly have to
attribute to our souls and to God and to the frequencies that
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we both are. We've done so much work on our
relationship to cultivate a relationship of honesty and
truth and integrity and play andall these things.
But like, there's some of it, somuch of it that's soul.
And it's just been something in my life that I never saw coming.
You know, I, I didn't trust women really, to be honest with
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you. She's probably the first woman
I've ever trusted and having heras a playground for conflict
resolution, for challenge, for talking about hard things, to,
you know, speak my mind and my truth and figure out how I want
to be in relationship has been beautiful.
So it's been absolutely stunningand I'm so grateful for it.
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And my wish is that every woman has that woman in her life that
is like her fucking ride or die rock that just is always there
for her. I know it's such a blessing and
it's so beautiful that you guys get to Co create and so
beautiful that you also said youget to have a safe space to
explore conflict because you actually said something quite
brilliant in your book. I'm gonna repeat it back to you.
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That and when it has, when it comes to relationships, to have
healthy relationships and true intimacy, you must survive the
conflict repair. Did you write that girl?
I thought one of my one of my, it was nice with the book, I got
to bring in some of my most popular graphic sliders on
Instagram. So I wrote that as a graphic
slider on Instagram because whatI realized in relationships is
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when I was younger, the friends that I had deep relationships
with were just the ones that were like, you're cool, you're
amazing. Yeah.
Convenient and like, built me upand kind of like, stroke my ego.
And we had fun together and we trauma bonded and talked about
our parents. But we never actually went
through hard things. We almost exited when things got
bad. And in intimate relationships,
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it's actually about coming together when there's risk.
So if you and I are are best friends and I have something
that I feel like you said or didthat bothered me and you have
something that I said or did that bothered me, this is the
moment where it's a risk. I could say something and you
could leave me. You could say something, I could
leave you. So but when we work together on
that and I feel seen and heard and validated, you feel seen and
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heard and validated, that's whenwe're deeper and more intimate
than ever before because we've gone through something and we've
allowed parts of us to be seen, heard and held that we didn't
have previously. So I'm just the biggest fan.
It's not like I'm looking for conflict, but you know, in any
relationships, I have a handful of friends and people in my life
that are worthy of and I'm dedicated to conflict
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resolution. No matter what happens, we will
be in that process. And I hope for people that they
can experience true intimacy with people, which means going
through hard things and being intrue integrity with themselves
and their truth. Wow.
Thank you. That is so beautiful.
Because yeah, I feel like I've had like same thing when I, when
I had friends when I was younger, that when it did come
time as we got older for conflict, it ended up us not
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being able to recover, you know,and it feels so good.
I feel like I've found like friendship and female friendship
specifically where I feel like Ican speak up if something has
crossed a boundary or or made mefeel a certain way.
And knowing that you can have a safe space to share and that you
won't be abandoned for that is so amazing.
And and I think you just leadingand living by example is just,
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you are The Alchemist, right? You're experiencing it and then
you're transmuting it. And I feel so inspired by you.
I'm sure all the skinny dippers feel so inspired by you.
And thank you so much for all ofyour wisdom today like.
Oh my God. So appreciate you and you are so
I, I honestly like knew that youwere so brilliant and beautiful.
And also now I'm just like fullyseeing the full capacity of your
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depths. Like you are so beautiful and
I'm just in love. Where can everybody find the
book and you and the podcast andall the things?
Quick little plug moment, let's go.
And everything's going to be linked below, guys, don't worry.
We love you guys. So I do retreats, international
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I have one on the divide feminine in true essence in the
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ITSK or Ista. It's Krista on
instagramalmost30.com for the book, the book you're going to
pre-order anywhere on Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, just
search almost 30. It's going to be amazing.
It's a pretty hearty guide. And then almost 30 podcasts,
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I love that you guys are honestly have built an empire.
It's so inspiring to me, you know, because like I've been
doing this for three years now and it's just like, I just know
it's one. It's I'm already so grateful for
it in so many ways and have found so much of what I wanted.
And just like seeing you guys, I'm like, yeah, I can't wait to
keep going because it just does get better, you know, and the
opportunities just get better. And I'm so excited and you're
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such an inspo for that, so thankyou.
Honoring if you're in a period of pushing and doing because
you're motivated by something you're excited by because that's
how I felt, or you want to live your purpose, or you want to
build what you're doing. I never want to shame people for
pushing themselves and for following what they're called
here to do. But I also want to honor that
living in burnout is is is not the way you know, it's, I think
it is old paradigm too, where you have to push and force.
(00:20):
And now I really think it's moreabout finding as much alignment
as you can. And I know for a lot of women,
that's like alignment. I can't have that.
I'm in a job, I'm doing all these things makes total sense.
But the more you can align yourself, even if you're working
hard, the better your life will be.
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Good morning, good morning for me.
I guess I don't know what time of day it is for you, but hello
my beautiful skinny dipping listeners.
I miss you guys so much. I know this season has been jam
packed with amazing guests that I just genuinely love so much
and I wanted to bring their stories to you and today is no
different. Krista Williams from almost 30
is absolutely fucking incredible.
(01:04):
And I genuinely feel so gratefulthat she came to me and wanted
to be on skinny dipping during this, you know, contraction and
expansion moment of her premiering her book.
But before we dive into this episode, which I just will say
kind of changed my life, like, I'm not kidding.
The things that she told me resonated at such a deep level
that I'm like, OK, I will walk forward with this wisdom for the
(01:27):
rest of my life. But before we get into it, I
wanted to update you guys with what's up because we just did a
guest season and I know you missme and I miss you.
I actually miss talking to you guys so much.
And I have been gearing up for fucking skinny dipping summer.
That's right, it's a full solo season.
OK, They're going to be like 20 minute, 25 minute bite size
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episodes that are, you know, thought pieces on topics that
are really interesting me where I can pull from my own
experience, I can pull from, youknow, channeling information
that comes through. I can pull from scientific
studies and case studies. Like I just want to really
create this season that I'm so proud of where I can bring you
intellectual pieces that stimulate your mind and create
(02:13):
ideas for you. So that's what's coming this
summer and I'm so excited for the skinny dipping summer
because it's really for the thought girls, the girls that
have lots of thoughts and just want somewhere to allow their
intellectual spirits to thrive. And also for the creative girls,
for the freedom girls. For the girls that want to be
like dancing their asses off this summer and skinny dipping
(02:36):
in legs and being in nature and living a life that they just
truly feel in alignment with. If that is you, skinny dipping
summer is for you. Or if that's the place that you
want to be skinny dipping summerthis upcoming season that's
going to premiere in, it's like 2 to 3 weeks.
So keep an eye out. Follow me on Instagram at
Sundays KK and at Skinny DippingDiary so that you can know like
when do new episodes drop and everything like that.
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But I'm just so excited. And also we have like new just
like branding and visuals and just energy with the skinny
dipping world. I feel like I am changing so
much who I am on the inside and I want that to show on the
outside with my brand and with skinny tipping and everything
I'm creating. I'm hosting my first ever.
Not my first ever. Sorry, whoops.
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I'm not even going to cut that out because I just can't be
bothered. But my second ever women's
retreat in a couple weeks and I'm just realizing like that is
a huge part of my path and passion.
And I'm looking forward to hosting hopefully two more, one
in Europe and one in Bali this year.
So if you want to be on the waitlist for that, go ahead and just
sign up below. I'll leave everything in the
(03:40):
description, but let's strip down and dive in.
I wanted to update you guys. What's my info for right now?
If it's your calling, it'll keepcalling.
And that's what I want you to think of when you listen to this
episode because it's like, you know, stepping into your power
isn't always easy and sharing your gifts isn't always easy.
But it's like, if it's your calling, it'll keep calling.
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Crystal Williams, everybody. This episode's fucking amazing.
Let's strip down and dive in. I'm Kayla Rose, This is skinny
dipping. I can't wait to catch up with
you guys in a couple weeks. And I feel like I've been
learning so much, so I can't wait to share with you.
Navigating growing up is absolutely crazy and that's why
having an Internet big sister isliterally key because what would
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we do without our favorite podcasters and without our
favorite Internet Big Sisters? And today I have somebody who
honestly, I don't even know how this happened, but I've been a
big fan for a long time and it just seemed like it worked out
last minute. And I'm just so incredibly
grateful to have her on the showas she is in this launching
period of her book and in this expansion era.
(04:45):
And I'm just so excited to dive into everything today.
So skinny dipping listeners, welcome on Crystal Williams, the
Co host of Almost 30 and also the co-author of their new book
Almost 30, A Definitive guide toa life that you love for the
next decade and beyond. Welcome on the podcast
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Beautiful. Are you ready to strip down and
dive in? I'm ready, it's all I do.
We've had the best time for the 15 minutes we were on before, so
ready to keep cruising. You're the sweetest 5 ever.
I'm so excited. I love talking to authors,
especially in the process of them, you know, expanding and
releasing and birthing this new creation.
And something I love to ask authors is what parts of
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yourself did you have to confront during the process of
writing this book? Because I feel like as we write
about ourselves and as we write about our life, probably so many
different parts of ourselves come up, maybe parts that we've
been avoiding. And I'm just so curious, what
was the process like for you? Yeah, so I think I never felt
(05:51):
worthy that anyone would listen.And I think I never, as a second
thing, did enough internal excavation to really see what
stories I had to tell. So I was always someone that was
so focused on everyone else. I mean, I interview people for a
living, and so I was always interested in their stories,
what they have to say. I always wanted to help people
cultivate and feel more interesting themselves.
So I think in the writing process, I had to give myself
(06:13):
permission to be like, this story is worth sharing.
And what's interesting about being an author and writing a
book is that it's not always thestories that are magnificent or
wild, or you're climbing Mount Everest or you do this crazy
thing. Sometimes it's the most mundane
stories that people connect with.
I think that's why Brené Brown and Glennon Doyle are so
(06:35):
popular, because some of the goals that they shared in books
like Untamed are just really basic and simple, but just
really hit a thread and relatability.
So I had to really do excavationof myself and my stories, and I
had to give myself permission tobelieve that I was worthy of
writing a book because yeah, it's it's not nothing in that
process. And just the last thing that
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I'll say, the book writing process for me was the best.
I felt like it was my joy and pleasure.
Marketing it and promoting it isa whole different beast for me,
a whole different set of fears. Holy claim, like what you've
written and also fully claiming your story.
Yeah, exactly. And it's also asking for help.
You know, you're you're asking people to support you.
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So you're asking for help. You're asking to be seen, you're
asking to be heard. You are putting yourself out
there in a really vulnerable way.
And so whenever we do big things, and I think your
audience are people that do big things, they put themselves out
there. They want big for their life.
They want to, they believe they're made for more.
I think it's really beautiful that you brought this up earlier
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before we started recording. And I meant this experience of
like how much comes up when you're expanding.
It's like expansion is so beautiful and we all want it.
Like we're always like, I want expansion, I want growth.
And then you're in it and it's actually really crunchy and it
actually feels uncomfortable. And it actually brings up so
many different things that you have to work through to prove
that you're available for the capacity of expansion that you
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want. Exactly.
Like it's so true. Anything I've anything I've ever
premiered ever, When I'm in thatprocess of birthing, that's what
I was telling you before. I literally feel physical
contractions and expansions. It's like birthing is this
energetic birth. And when we're about to give
something to the world that is our creation and our art and our
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words, I've just found in my life, like it is so fucking
uncomfy. Like it is like so icky and
sticky and uncomfy. And it's so funny because those
are the moments that we pray for.
Do you know what I mean? Like those are the as artists
and as CEOs, we're like, these are the moments that I pray for.
And then that moment comes and there's so much joy, but there's
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also so much anxiety. And I know that for me
personally, I can get in a little bit of like a self
judgement loop with that being like, wait, but why am I feeling
so chaotic or like so much is going on?
Like this is the moment that I've been waiting for and
praying for. How do you navigate like all the
big up and downs and emotions? Do you experience that ever?
Like that kind of feeling of like, wait, this is so much like
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you're on a roller coaster ride,but then you're like, but this
is also what I prayed for. Oh yeah, I, I think all the
time. I'm like, I've been in this
process of the book. I think the book process hits on
very specific things for me thatI need to heal.
So firstly, I see everything in my life that feels challenging
as an opportunity for growth. So I think the growth mindset
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helps me approach everything with more levity and more grace
where I'm like, this will benefit me in the end when we
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So like, why not growth? Opportunities, you know, of
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course, they seem like challenges and you know, I feel
like so much of, you know, the almost 30 vision is also like,
OK, what about like younger you though?
Like did she always see it as like when what age did you start
to see like, OK, this challenge,this pain coming in, This isn't
this is an opportunity right now.
This is God. This is the universe presenting
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me with an opportunity. But obviously most of us weren't
always that way or taught to be that way.
Oh. I wasn't that way.
I mean, what do you mean? I want to feel good.
I want to always feel good. I want to always feel
comfortable. I think when I went through the
Saturn Return, so almost 30 the book is about.
Let's dive into the Saturn return because that's a big part
of the book, right so let's diveinto it for the people I don't
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know, A lot of the girlies from the pot are astrology girly so
they. Don't know.
And they're going to be like, excuse me, girl, that ain't even
right. Like they're going to be
schooling me. So I'm not an astrologer, I'm
just an expert in transition andchange in this period, so.
And honestly, that's what it is.It's a period of transition.
And also like personal experience is fucking
everything. You don't have to be an
astrologer. Like you are living, breathing,
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you know what I mean? Yes, yeah.
So Saturn Return is a period that happens around the age of
29.5 for most people. It's from 27 to 30 about.
And it's really like your cosmichomecoming.
It's a cosmic rite of passage that we all go through if we
make it past 30. And it's really when everything
comes up for review to see if you're living in alignment.
So it will be very challenging. It will hit rock bottoms.
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You might lose a job, you might switch careers.
You might move. You might break up.
You might get together, you might have kids.
Transitions are happening. Changes are happening, just
supercharged transformation and change.
And during this period for me, Ifelt like I hit my rock bottom.
I felt so lost. I felt like I was supposed to be
in a career that I loved. I was supposed to be doing all
these things that I wasn't doing.
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And there was a lot of parts of my life that we're getting for
review, My friendships, my body,my relationships, my purpose,
all the things that we talked about in the book.
But for people that have gone through this Adam Return, it's
helpful to see the period and dates in your chart so that you
can kind of look at, Oh my God, I moved then or I had a baby
then or just looking at that's really helpful to understand
maybe what lessons you went through, what lessons you grew
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through. And then for people that are
younger that are about to go through their Saturn return, the
book will help you. But just knowing that like
Saturn is really showing you where you're not aligned for
your greatest good and for your alignment.
And so all the changes that you're going through and
challenges that you're going through may be painful, but it's
truly for your greatest good. And if it's not good, it's not
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done. That's like my favorite thing.
It's like, if it's, if you can'tsee the truth, then it's not
done yet. And so really just believing
that it's all working out for your greatest good.
But honestly, the truth of it, my age helps with that.
I've seen enough to know that like it all works out and I've
gone through enough to know thatit all works out.
And the more that I believe that, the more I experience the
(13:52):
good as true. Wow, so many juicy Nuggets in
that. I'm just, like, soaking it in so
deeply, all your words and like,the way that you speak because,
yeah, transition periods are incredibly difficult.
And I love the thought of if it's not good, if it's not, if
you don't see the truth yet, if you don't see the plan and why
(14:13):
this all had to happen exactly how it had to happen, then it's
not done yet. Yes.
And you it's not done processingor healing to do, you know, even
thinking about like I had a relationship that I just ended
and it was like, even there's still stuff to sift through.
So it was, I can't see the good yet.
So I'm still working through allthe lessons and learnings and
things like that. And in the end, I'm going to
(14:35):
see, wow, this person showed me this, how we did this.
Like that is US even looking back on the good of life of our
lessons, of the things we've been through.
Because I know all your audiencehas been through hard things.
And I'm not saying hard things are fun or that we deserve them.
But what I'm saying is that it is our job, if we want to live a
life that we love to see these things as our potential for our
growth and our good. And that is really how you start
(14:56):
to be the creator of your life. And that is really how you start
to become the person that you came here to be, because
otherwise you're just in victim mindset, which is.
Miserable and then our external world completely like reflects
our internal world and that victim mindset.
It's like whenever I'm in my victim mindset, I know her so
well. I know that part comes out and
she's like, I need lots of attention right now.
(15:18):
And she starts, you know, and then the person stops me at the
light and flips me off or something.
And I'm like, the world is against me, but it's not.
And it's like the moment that weshift is the moment that our
external world shifts, which is what I love about this work,
like this work and like the workof your book and like everything
that people are diving into in this self exploration.
What I love about it is it it gives us the opportunity to
(15:40):
shift our internal landscape so that our external world is
evidently better and more joyfuland more curious, even if we
have to go through the sticky stuff first.
Yeah. And I just, I always think like,
what else is the plan? You know, like, what else is it?
Because I think when people go externally for their whole
lives, you're just playing whackA mole with I got to change the
(16:01):
relationship. I got to change the location, I
got to change the job. And I was doing that so much
Like everything externally had to change.
My body had to change my bank account, my friends, you know,
where I was going out on the weekends had to change.
And really, it's like when I shifted, everything in my life
shifted. And it wasn't overnight.
It took time. But not only do you get the
chance to love yourself, that shift and change where you're
(16:22):
like, I actually this doesn't even need to shift because I
love myself, but you actually get to Co create a life that you
love with consciousness and withcreativity and with joy.
Yeah. And I love that nuanced
difference of like, OK, by changing your internal
landscape, it's not about actually fundamentally changing
who you are. Like it's not.
It's and actually to allow thosethings to change, we have to
(16:46):
allow them to soften first. And the only way for it to
soften is not through the judgement lens, not through the
critical lens, but through that lens of like compassion and just
being like I am enough as I am now, even if I'm even if I'm
feeling all these things or evenif I feel unhealed or whatever,
like I am enough right now. And that softens so much so that
(17:07):
things do have a chance to change and shift because or else
our internal landscape is so rigid if we're coming from that
judge mental lens. And I just noticed, as soon as
we offer compassion, as soon as we realize, oh, I don't have to
change, but I want to because I love myself, then it softens.
Oh, yeah. And you know, Carl Rogers, who's
the, like, godfather of therapy,He was a famous psychotherapist.
(17:32):
He talks about the paradox of transformation.
And in the paradox of transformation, it talks about
in order to change something, you have to accept it.
And so whenever we want to change our relationship with our
self or, you know, our partner or our life or our body or
whatever it is, you have to likeaccept it as it is and be like,
(17:52):
OK, I'm noticing that my relationship with my body is
really poor and that I really don't love myself.
And I'm just going to accept that for what it is right now.
I'm going to accept it. I'm here right now because if we
go immediately to the action of wanting to change or transform
or whatever, we're not loving itas it is.
If the goal is to love ourselvesas we are, we need to love
everything as it is right now. And a practice that I do really
(18:14):
regularly is I will go, and I'lldo this most mornings.
I will go and think about every single area of my life, every
single situation, every single thing.
And I'll be like, I accept this as it is that relationship
that's giving me pain right now.I accept that as it is this,
this is in my sink. I accept that as it is, you
know, where I'm at in my career,every single thing.
And it can bring us such presence and peace.
(18:36):
And when we do that, we just give such opportunity, not only
to clock our life and the goodness and the beauty and
everything, but really to give chance for beautiful things to
happen, like miracles and magic.Wow, honestly, I feel like I've
heard that said so many times, but for some reason when you
said that, it just hit so deeplyjust being like, yeah, just
(18:57):
knowing that you actually have apractice with it.
Like this action will practice that you show up to where you're
like, I am going to have this like acceptance ritual basically
is what I would call it for myself.
I don't know what you call it, but just this moment of being
like, OK, I'm going to accept this.
That's, you know, this conflict in my relationship right now, or
I'm going to accept, you know what, you know, happened with my
(19:18):
father or whatever it is. Like I just noticed.
Yeah. The moment that I accept is when
I stop creating like my own internal chaos, basically.
So I just love that that you have that as a practice because
I'm sure as you've developed thepractice, it just becomes more
of a muscle that you can use andutilize.
Yeah, and anything bad that happens, it's like you like
(19:43):
literally it's like this. It is like there's nothing other
than it is. So you have to just see it
clearly and then you're able to shift it or move it.
But I think people, you know, I love highest self stuff.
I've talked about that a lot. I work with highest self a lot.
I work my own highest self and my clients highest self.
But sometimes I get a little bitcurious about I don't really
think people understand the highest self is like the six
(20:03):
dimensional soul. You know, divine aspect of them,
but I think people see it as like a version of them that's
perfect and a version of them that like has a lot of money or
has a lot. OK.
Yeah, has a lot of things and all these.
External like validations are like exactly yeah.
And I've just been curious aboutthat more because I'm like, I
don't. It's not about you constantly
(20:26):
chasing this, this ideal versionof you.
It's about you accepting yourself in this now moment,
really. I love that and I feel like for
me, what I've been doing becauseI've been into like IFS,
internal family systems therapy.Basically, I'm certified.
I like practice that with my clients.
It's. It's definitely I'm just in the
beginning of my journey. Crystal you have you have to
understand like. This is on the physical life
(20:47):
maybe. It's so exciting and something
that's helped me is the practiceof just sensing self.
And I feel like just going into meditation and being like, OK,
can I sense that my higher self or my true self is just present
right now? Just noticing if I'm having any
judgement. Is there a part of myself that
(21:08):
has compassion still like, or ifI'm feeling chaotic or anxious
and like all over the place, like is there a part of me that
feels grounded right now? And just beginning to like test
my senses has totally strengthened my ability to be
like, OK, I know myself is here.I know my higher self can help.
Yeah, connecting and you having connection to self is like, I
(21:31):
think one of my life goals is tohave the women that I work with
connect to self. Because once you have that
connection, I think when I got it, I've never lost it and I
felt like my life. Actually, there's two times when
I felt like my life began. The first time was when I got
off birth control. The mood queen.
Same. Mood and vibes I was like 20
(21:52):
something and then the second time was when I found self and
self from. For anyone that's not familiar
with IFS. So internal family systems is a
psychotherapy technique created by Dick Schwartz.
It was to support originally eating disorder patients because
he was noticing that there was adiscrepancy between the eating
disorders patients desires and their actions.
They desired to eat well, they decided to take care of their
(22:12):
bodies, but for some reason theywere binging or for some reason
they were restricting. So what was that discrepancy?
And when you can pull those things apart of like, I need to
understand why you're binging. What does that part of you have
to say? I need to understand the part of
you that wants to restrict. And I believe that there's an
infinite aspect of you, the soulthat's like perfect, all knowing
and all loving. So the self is really the most
(22:32):
loving aspect of us. It's our soul, It's our deepest
connection to truth. And it's really that place and
state that you create from the best, that you live from the
best. And that is the goal of the
ultimate loving life experience.So beautiful.
I want to dive into some actionable steps, like some
(22:53):
actionable takeaways. Those are like my favorite
little things, the skinny, the skinny dipping listeners.
Now I'm always coming out with the actionable steps and I feel
like the first one is obviously kind of this almost space for
acceptance that you create. And I think that would be such
an amazing thing for people to practice or take on.
And I was wondering if there waslike, maybe like two more that
we could give more actionable steps to navigating these
(23:16):
transition periods and channeling the sense of self
when things feel chaotic or or when we can't see the plan or
when we can't see the why. Yeah.
And, and just know you're not alone and not seeing the plan
and not seeing the why. And I think I'll explain the the
tactical, but I just want to say, I think collectively now
(23:36):
there's new timeline opportunities available.
And I think where previously there was very obvious
timelines, I think we've hit theend of them and the new Earth
and we're sort of creating thesenew timelines and experiences
and we're sort of now deciding what we want to go and where we
want to go as a collective. So it's actually really
beautiful and exciting and powerful that we don't know
where we're going because we're creating it in this now moment.
(23:57):
So this opportunity for you is to create the life that you love
in every moment. And what that looks like now
versus then is going step by step.
So what is the next best right action?
What is the next best step? And I think before it was like
planning six months in advance, nine months in advance, and not
once a single one of my friends who are profound, deep, amazing
(24:17):
entrepreneurs, healers, teachers, all these things are
planning longer than like three to six months maximum.
That's what I've been telling people.
OK, yes. Yeah, the world is changing so
quickly, like after 2020, like you can't just do that anymore.
So we're not planning far in advance.
You're going with the next rightaction and with the next right
action, then you're shown the next right action after that.
(24:37):
So just focus on the next right action that you need.
It doesn't mean you can't visualize.
It doesn't mean you can't have big dreams.
But really, your most magical life will be bigger than your
visualizations. It's true, you know, it's.
True. Like it's, it's better.
It's better than you can imagine.
Better. And I've always found that.
So focusing on the next right step, I think is really good.
(24:58):
And then I think during times ofuncertainty, the best things
that you can do for yourself arefocus on grounding your body in
the now moment. And these are the things that
people kind of eye roll out or like are like whatever, but
really getting connected to the earth, being present where you
are, taking salt baths, regulating your nervous system,
feeling your feelings when they come up, connecting with people
(25:19):
and community. It's like we want to be in the
next step of like, what's the next step?
But we also want to be where we are because life is lived where
we are and in this now moment. So just being as present as you
can as possible and having little tools and rituals to
support you in the now moment because that's also where you're
going to get the right hit for the next step.
Literally amazing. You, you guys heard that right?
(25:42):
I'm like, you guys heard that right?
No, it's so true, especially with the next actionable step
because I think as an entrepreneur and a spiritual
entrepreneur specifically, I think for me personally and a
lot of people in my audience whoare spiritual entrepreneurs and
creatives, it can feel like we are recreating the way of doing
things. And, and I'm sure you feel this
way too. It's just like, well, I want to
(26:03):
do all the things and I don't want to burn out.
I want to, like, expand. And I also want to stay
grounded. Like, it's like we're creating a
completely new way of doing things that I just don't think
that was the societal norm before.
And what I always try to remind myself is that I need to give
myself grace because like, we are currently, like, this new
(26:23):
wave of spiritual entrepreneurs are creating and paving the
path. We are creating the game plan
for other generations to follow.And I feel like, yeah, you talk
about that a little bit in the book, like managing burnout and
creating this new way. So can you relate to that?
Oh my gosh, so much. I think, you know, when we
started almost 30 in 26, like westarted recording in 2016, We
(26:45):
put it out in like late 2016 andthe podcast landscape was
completely different. There wasn't big networks, there
wasn't like a lot of female shows, there wasn't a lot of
female duo shows. So we just kind of drew stuff up
and like we're like, whatever, let's see how this goes.
So for a lot of people that would be more challenging
because there isn't a blueprint.But for me, it was so much
(27:06):
better because I had no one to compare ourselves to.
It was almost like whatever we do is going to be fine because
there's no expectations. So I actually thrive without the
blueprint. That's my preference.
That's my journey. I love it because if I have a
blueprint, then I'm then I'm throwing myself off.
I'm like, I should be myself. So people should really see the
fact that there's no blueprint for what they're creating and
(27:27):
doing now as a good thing because then they know they're
following their souls calling and then they know they're
leading themselves to something that feels more true.
But to the point of burnout. You know, when we started the
show, I was working a full time job and I was so desperate to
not work in the corporate world and not live a life behind my
desk and in that environment that I would do anything.
(27:48):
And I'm so grateful that we found almost 30.
But I was also burning myself out.
We went literally, we went on two world tours during that
time. We did retreats.
We were doing it all and I didn't feel good.
I didn't feel good in my body. We were stressed most of the
time, and it was the best years because it was popping, but it
was really hard on the body and in our lives.
(28:10):
And so honoring, if you're in a period of pushing and doing
because you're motivated by something you're excited by
because that's how I felt, or you want to live your purpose or
you want to build what you're doing.
I never want to shame people forpushing themselves and for
following what they're called here to do.
But I also want to honor that living in burnout is is is not
the way you know, it's, I think it is old paradigm too, where
(28:31):
you have to push and force. And now I really think it's more
about finding as much alignment as you can.
And I know for a lot of women, that's like alignment.
I can't have that. I'm in a job, I'm doing all
these things makes total sense. But the more you can align
yourself, even if you're workinghard, the better your life will
be. It's honestly so true.
I literally have attached to this as I am in alignment
(28:51):
because wow, when we are in alignment it's like kind of the
thing you were talking about before, right?
Take the next actionable step and then the next step will show
itself. It's like if you can't see the
path, step and the path will appear.
That Rumi like saying is my favorite.
And I do feel like when I'm in alignment, I have the energy
that I need to take inspired action.
And when I'm acting, I know it'sfrom that place of inspiration.
(29:14):
But also I totally agree with the nuance of like sometimes
you're in a push season and that's also just like just
acknowledging that like, I don'tknow, there doesn't need to be
like a good or bad or right or wrong or like any of that.
It's just like their life has just different seasons and it's
like, what do you need right now?
Yes. What does your body need right
now and how it changes also as we age and grow up?
(29:36):
Yes, I think. Sorry dude isn't.
This one, Yeah, crazy. I'm snuggle.
I think too, it's like, yeah, first of all, in IFS is good
because you're not making anything good or bad.
And I think that's the thing in life, we don't want anything to
be necessarily good or bad, but we do want to think the energy
of the energy behind why we're doing what we're doing because
the intention is everything. So am I burning myself out
(29:58):
because I don't think I'm worthyof receiving opportunity,
abundance support because I feellike I have to do it all to
succeed because I feel like hardwork equals success?
Or am I, you know, pushing myself and burning out because
I'm really called and inspired and I'm in a season of push
because something I'm thing is important and this is my moment.
And so every single thing is just about the energetic
(30:19):
frequency behind whatever you'redoing, what you're doing.
Because then that's how we know that that energy that's creating
that experience is guiding you towards greater rather than
further away from yourself. Yeah, and it's coming from a
place of like, love and just like that energy, not just love,
but like the energy frequency oflove, like that, just like space
that it travels from. No, I literally love that.
(30:40):
OK, last thing that I want to touch with you on and then we'll
head out because we got to get the girl to therapy.
I got to be in therapy. It's a girl who's got to go to.
Therapy, which I do, honestly, I'm like, I really need it.
No, I love that for you because it's so beautiful, like seeing
somebody at your caliber, helping so many people and
you're like committed to also yourself and getting help for
yourself. It's so that's like the type of
(31:02):
people that I feel inspired by because that's you can tell
people are walking their fuckingtalk, you know.
Oh. I got a whole squad.
I know I got my whole squad of healers too.
I'm so grateful for them. I don't know what I would do
without them truly. I love that you are in Co
creation with your friend and I just think that's so incredibly
beautiful. And I just feel like it's so
(31:22):
relatable. I love creating with friends.
And I'm just wondering like withlike, you know, Co creating, not
just like the podcast, but now the book.
Like this is a whole other thing.
Yeah. What is that experience just
creating not just with yourself,but like in this partnership and
like how does that impact the experience of the Co creation?
(31:46):
Yeah, so for anyone listening, Ido the podcast with my best
friend Lindsay. And when we met, we were
friends, but we weren't friends for a long time.
So kind of right when we met, westarted the podcast and created
almost 30 and we really created it because we felt alone and we
felt like no one was having really deep, meaningful
conversations that we wanted to hear.
So it was like, I'm vibing with you.
I'm, you know, like we just havethis connection.
(32:07):
And I'll never forget, you know,I was walking across my, my
living room floor and I heard this voice that was like, and
now you have the missing puzzle piece.
I just was like thinking, I'm like, wow, Lindsay's my missing
puzzle piece for my purpose here.
And you know, for anyone listening, I, I just want to say
this that I truly believe in soulmates and divine connections
(32:29):
in life. And I do believe that you can
have a soulmate that's there fora short amount of time or a long
amount of time forever. Romantic friend, familial cat,
dog, whatever is absolutely one of my soul mates here to be with
me for a long time here to create almost 30.
So a lot of the success of our relationship I truly have to
attribute to our souls and to God and to the frequencies that
(32:51):
we both are. We've done so much work on our
relationship to cultivate a relationship of honesty and
truth and integrity and play andall these things.
But like, there's some of it, somuch of it that's soul.
And it's just been something in my life that I never saw coming.
You know, I, I didn't trust women really, to be honest with
(33:11):
you. She's probably the first woman
I've ever trusted and having heras a playground for conflict
resolution, for challenge, for talking about hard things, to,
you know, speak my mind and my truth and figure out how I want
to be in relationship has been beautiful.
So it's been absolutely stunningand I'm so grateful for it.
(33:35):
And my wish is that every woman has that woman in her life that
is like her fucking ride or die rock that just is always there
for her. I know it's such a blessing and
it's so beautiful that you guys get to Co create and so
beautiful that you also said youget to have a safe space to
explore conflict because you actually said something quite
brilliant in your book. I'm gonna repeat it back to you.
(33:58):
That and when it has, when it comes to relationships, to have
healthy relationships and true intimacy, you must survive the
conflict repair. Did you write that girl?
I thought one of my one of my, it was nice with the book, I got
to bring in some of my most popular graphic sliders on
Instagram. So I wrote that as a graphic
slider on Instagram because whatI realized in relationships is
(34:20):
when I was younger, the friends that I had deep relationships
with were just the ones that were like, you're cool, you're
amazing. Yeah.
Convenient and like, built me upand kind of like, stroke my ego.
And we had fun together and we trauma bonded and talked about
our parents. But we never actually went
through hard things. We almost exited when things got
bad. And in intimate relationships,
(34:41):
it's actually about coming together when there's risk.
So if you and I are are best friends and I have something
that I feel like you said or didthat bothered me and you have
something that I said or did that bothered me, this is the
moment where it's a risk. I could say something and you
could leave me. You could say something, I could
leave you. So but when we work together on
that and I feel seen and heard and validated, you feel seen and
(35:02):
heard and validated, that's whenwe're deeper and more intimate
than ever before because we've gone through something and we've
allowed parts of us to be seen, heard and held that we didn't
have previously. So I'm just the biggest fan.
It's not like I'm looking for conflict, but you know, in any
relationships, I have a handful of friends and people in my life
that are worthy of and I'm dedicated to conflict
(35:24):
resolution. No matter what happens, we will
be in that process. And I hope for people that they
can experience true intimacy with people, which means going
through hard things and being intrue integrity with themselves
and their truth. Wow.
Thank you. That is so beautiful.
Because yeah, I feel like I've had like same thing when I, when
I had friends when I was younger, that when it did come
time as we got older for conflict, it ended up us not
(35:47):
being able to recover, you know,and it feels so good.
I feel like I've found like friendship and female friendship
specifically where I feel like Ican speak up if something has
crossed a boundary or or made mefeel a certain way.
And knowing that you can have a safe space to share and that you
won't be abandoned for that is so amazing.
And and I think you just leadingand living by example is just,
(36:08):
you are The Alchemist, right? You're experiencing it and then
you're transmuting it. And I feel so inspired by you.
I'm sure all the skinny dippers feel so inspired by you.
And thank you so much for all ofyour wisdom today like.
Oh my God. So appreciate you and you are so
I, I honestly like knew that youwere so brilliant and beautiful.
And also now I'm just like fullyseeing the full capacity of your
(36:28):
depths. Like you are so beautiful and
I'm just in love. Where can everybody find the
book and you and the podcast andall the things?
Quick little plug moment, let's go.
And everything's going to be linked below, guys, don't worry.
We love you guys. So I do retreats, international
retreats with women. They're amazing.
I have one on the divide feminine in true essence in the
fall in Switzerland and Ibiza. So that's it's krista.com, it's
(36:51):
ITSK or Ista. It's Krista on
instagramalmost30.com for the book, the book you're going to
pre-order anywhere on Amazon, Target, Barnes and Noble, just
search almost 30. It's going to be amazing.
It's a pretty hearty guide. And then almost 30 podcasts,
wherever you listen to podcasts and morning Microdos is our
second show. It's like a TikTok version of
the show where you just get the best of the best.
(37:11):
I love that you guys are honestly have built an empire.
It's so inspiring to me, you know, because like I've been
doing this for three years now and it's just like, I just know
it's one. It's I'm already so grateful for
it in so many ways and have found so much of what I wanted.
And just like seeing you guys, I'm like, yeah, I can't wait to
keep going because it just does get better, you know, and the
opportunities just get better. And I'm so excited and you're
(37:33):
such an inspo for that, so thankyou.
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.