Soul Shattered to Master Of Manifesting, Terrie Christine

we sit down with Terrie Christine, an intuitive energy healer and motivational speaker, as she shares her profound journey from a corporate world to the spiritual realm. Terrie opens up about her childhood accident that led to an epiphany and her transformation into a master manifester. She describes the life-changing experiences and the spiritual encounters that shaped her path. Listen in as she dives deep into the stories of hardship, resilience, and self-discovery, providing valuable insights and tools that can empower anyone to overcome their struggles and manifest their true potential. This is more than an interview; it's an enlightening conversation about the boundless potential of the human spirit.

• Terrie has been aired in action in several episodes of Love and Marriage D.C
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Episode Transcript

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I kept hearing the N O word,but in my head I was repeating K,
N o W. So I wasn't allowingmyself as a child to be put off by
that N O word. I was saying tomyself, I can figure this out. I'm
going to get it. And then Iwould just sit in my room and visualize
that I could have a new pairof pants or a new dress and a neighbor
would give it to me, or thechurch family gave it to me, or I

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got so many things that I momstarted telling people, stop giving
it to me. Hey, you.
You're tuned in to the Skirtsup show with Samantha and Melissa.
Join our mission to normalizefailure, but still uncover the positives
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squad it is.
Samantha and Melissa.
Welcome back to season Season three.
What?
Episode one Season three. Ithink so.
I know, it's amazing.
It's so fun. You know, we havegrown so much and I just love that
there is like a. There's likea reason and there's like a path

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and a purpose and a directionand it's just grown into this whole
thing.
It has been amazing and I'm sohappy to be on this journey. Maybe
we do a little life catch.
Up instead of a fail. Yeah.Yeah. We were just on break.
Yep. So spring break. Justkidding, Melissa.
It's not even spring break yet.

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Catch up. What did we do onour break? We recorded a fuck ton.
Yeah, we did. I don't know ifyou saw our. Our lineup of guests
for this season, but we metwith all of them on our break. We
even traveled to one.
We went to dc.
I feel like we traveled morethan dc but maybe we didn' it.

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We imagined that we wanted to.
Yeah, I guess maybe why I feelit that way is that we did do like
some in person. We did.
You had to go to Atlanta. Imissed that one.
And then we both went to the yoga.
Oh, that's true. Okay. So wedid some out and about.
We did, yeah. Which was likeone of your original, like.
Oh, I really wanted to do that.

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So that's been nice.
It was awesome. So, yeah, wedefinitely went to a goat yoga farm
that's going to be coming upin May. In May. Oh, yeah. Sam is
so good. She's got the wholething planned out for you guys. It's
gonna be awesome.
Which makes it great becausethen you really can know what is
coming, who is coming, and soyou can mark your calendars for the

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one episode or you know,hopefully all of them that you really
want to hear.
Yeah. What is coming? Who iscoming? Come with us.
That sounded wildlyinappropriate, Melissa.
Oh, I didn't mean that kind,but, you know.
Well, guys, we're back.
So. So, yeah, what. Tell us,what did you do on your break besides

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the recording, like, when itwas just you and your family?
My free time. So we took. Ihad never been on a cruise before,
and we decided to book acruise. We took the big kids. We
left the baby at home since itwas my first one, so that I can enjoy
it too.
The.
So the crew stopped at Grand Turk.
Never mind.

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And Dominican Republic. AndGrand Turk was awesome because the
kids, like, really got toexperience what we usually experience
when we go out of town, asopposed to just, you know, being
in a tourist, Touristy area.We were able to get off the ship
and we immediately got a golfcart and we just went the total opposite
of all the touristy stuff. Andwe showed the kids, like, what life

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is like on. On a differentisland in a different side of the
world. And not different sideof the world, this being dramatic.
But that was really coolbecause we took them to an isolated
beach where, you know,tourists don't go. And per usual
when Simon and I do this, weran into a local. He was out spear
fishing.
What?
Yeah. And so. And he was sonice. He just came over and talked

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to us and the kids and he waslike, yeah, I'm spearfishing for
my dinner. Like, this is howI. How I catch, how I get my food.
And then he was like, have youguys seen a conch before? And he
dove down into like, themiddle of this, like, canal that
we were in channel. Andliterally brought up an armful of
these giant conchs. And hegoes, these ones are alive. And you

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can see. And he was like. Andthere's so many different. Like,
you could eat them right now.And I was like, we're not going to
eat that right now. We're notgoing to do that. Right?
Like raw.
Yeah, like live, like, just. Iguess there's a way to like, crack
it out while it's alive andeat it raw. And I was like, yeah,
we're good. We'll pass onthat. But it was so cool that he,
you know, brought it up. Thekids could see that because on this
beach, like, it's not. Idon't. It's not written on anything

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that we saw material wise. Butlike, that beach, like, conks conjugate.
I did conjugate.
Conjugate, conjugate.
Is that where they go and maketheir babies?
Sure.
Congregate.
Congregate. You know what Imean? So they're.
Their conjugal visits areplanned for now. You see, it's for

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the.
It's. It's for the meme cops.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
The ones that pinch you.
Yeah.
But there's like whole emptyconch shells all over that beach
and like whole shells all overthat beach. And we weren't expecting
that.
Like, I. Okay, I actually willtell you, I didn't even know that
a conch was an actualcreature. I literally just thought
it was a kind of a shell.That's how naive I was.

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I want to say I at one pointthought that, but when Simon and
I went to Roatan, I saw a liveone. We thought it was a shell, and
we learned very quickly whenwe took it to the room that it was
an animal.
Oh, no. So wait, are they likelittle crabs or whatever?
Yeah, they look like crabs.
Yeah.
And they live in these giantconch shells. The other thing that
was so cool is when we startedwalking down the beach, I did not

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expect or know that we had thechance of seeing flamingos. And so
we're walking along the beachin this flock of flamingos land in
the water, like several feetin front of us. Yes. And Emelia was
just in awe. Do you have a picture?
Because my d. Our number onefan, loves flamingos.
I do.

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And actually there's twophotos of the flamingos that I got
and they're out focus. But itjust. It makes me want to paint.
Like, they just look somagical and so beautiful and it makes
me just want to get apaintbrush and start, like, water
painting.
Wow.
Yeah. I love it.
I want to see that painting.
I. No one wants to see thepainting, but I will share the photo
and you guys can see that. Andthen we stopped at Dominican Republic

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where we got the kids to swimwith dolphins.
That's amazing. Yeah, I'venever done that either. I.
It was really cool. I know alot of people wait, you know, a long,
long time to get to seedolphins and swim dolphins. I hadn't
seen the 13 year old, like,smile that big. He was cheese.
It.
Loved it. He was hugging thedolphins and it was kissing him.

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Oh, that's so sweet.
Yeah, he loved it. But yeah,so. And I also started a new study.
I started studying rtt.
Ooh, I'm so excited. Which youguys on me.
We probably can't say that inthe public.
Oh, I don't know. Aren't youhave. Don't you have to get people
to practice on?

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I don't know. I'm not there yet.
Not friends. Okay. And youguys haven't got the ethical.
And you guys haven't heard ofthis episode yet of where this came
from that I decided, like, oh,I'm gonna study this, and this is
gonna be a career path that Ithink I'm gonna humor that also comes
out in May. So.
That is amazing.
Yeah.
Exciting. I'm so proud of you.
Thank you.

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Wow. So my life isn't asexciting in that way, but it's.
Oh, it's exciting.
It's had a lot of ups andupendedness. I guess you could say.
Things in my life are changingright now. I would say I'm going
through the process of adivorce. I don't really have much
to say about it for now, butwe'll probably talk about it later.

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It's all pretty kind of. Kindof tender and fresh, but, you know,
doesn't make you a failure atlife. It doesn't sometimes try to
tell myself that.
Better for your health.Insane. Just like we learned in an
interview that we had, like,not too long ago where, I mean, the
example was, like, stayingtogether. Just because you have kids

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doesn't mean it's, like, ahealthy relationship. And, like,
just staying because you feellike, oh, we're married. That's not
healthy.
No, you're right. You'reright. So, yeah, there's just been
a lot of things going on. Idid get my car totaled. I think you
probably heard about thatbecause it did happen near the end
of last season because. Oh,yeah. Oh. Actually, it kind of happened

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in the middle of recording forthis season.
Yeah.
So if you missed the vital episode.
That is where that episode wasamazing. And I'm so mad at myself
because I wish I still can, Iguess, go onto our Facebook page
and be like, whoa. If you guysdidn't hear my one and only amazing
co host interviewing Vital.Like, that was such a good episode.

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She made it amazing.
Oh, you both did. It was awesome.
So, yeah.
But I think because of that,I. Of the car being totaled, I had
to miss that episode. I was soupset. But it couldn't have been
done better.
And you guys were safe and youhave a new car. Yep.
Have a new car, have a new life.
Working on that, but I'mexcited. I'm excited.

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Well, thank you.
I think it's been a long timecoming. I probably shouldn't say
that, but it's.
It's been a long time Coming.I just didn't want to admit it.
Yeah.
So. Well, yeah.
I'm excited to see what comesfor you next. And we're all here
to support you.
I know. And that's where Ihave to admit, like, there's not

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a single part of me thatfeels. Hasn't felt love from sometimes
just new people every day.People that I know are in my life
and I know love me, but peopleare just coming out of the woodworks.
So I'm very grateful to everyone.
Good.
Yeah.
Did you guys notice the albumchange and our new logo?

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It's so pretty.
I hope you guys love it and wereally will post a post. Post a post.
Okay. That was maybe okay.
She's like, maybe it wasn't asfunny as I thought. No, it was great.
I didn't intentionally saythat. It just came out and I was
like, whoa, is that. Thatsounds stupid. But maybe I will make

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a. Our cover change. But ifyou look at it, I wonder if you guys
picked up on the hidden imagesin it. A lot of hidden meanings and
with the meanings.
Correct.
And I'm wondering, we'rewondering if you guys can kind of
pinpoint all the hidden imagesand what they might mean.
Yeah.
Because there is a purpose.
Yeah. Actually. So I'm justgonna say Sam designed it and it

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is beautiful.
Oh, I love it.
I feel like it's perfect.
It took lots of anger andtrial and error and frustration.
Well.
And I feel like it's stillLottie. Like it's still our girl.
Right. And it's us. It's everything.
I feel like it makes her real.
Exactly.
Yeah. And just like theexpression on her face, like you
feel that expression.
Mischievous and curious, butalso like loving life. Yes. Like

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non judgmental, just pure.
And it's so weird that you getthat out of the image. I'm proud
of it.
Yeah, I love it so much.
As you heard, we have alreadypre recorded pretty much all of this
season. But it is time for youto listen to what we have for you
today. And that is TerriChristine. She has many, many titles

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and many, many specialties.One thing that we forgot to mention
in this episode that you'reabout to hear is that she also has
premiered on TV. She has beenon love and marriage in D.C. where
she was on several episodes.So some of you may already know who
she is. Here's Terri.
Today. I'm really excitedbecause we have with us Terri Christine.

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She is an intuitive energyhealer, also a motivational speaker,
and has written a book calledthe Secret Power of you and so we're
really excited and lucky tohave you with us today.
Thank you, Honor.
So where are we? We are.
Oh, my God.
And we're in Washington, D.C.visiting with you.
So you're actually inBethesda, Maryland, which is the

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outskirts of D.C. there's been.
One other trip that we've beenon, and, yeah, so far. And I just
want to say, like, you shouldfeel special if you don't, because
Sam saw something, and it waslike, we have to meet her within.
Like, five minutes of ourconversation, wasn't it? That I was
like, I'm sorry. I'm trying tonot be crazy, but, like, I think
we need to come to you. Andyou're like, oh, no, that's normal.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
So we're really.
We're really grateful for youto have us here.
Oh, well, thank you. I'm veryhonored that you said yes, number
one, to put me on yourpodcast. And I'm very humbled to
be a part of your success. Sothank you.
Absolutely.
We have her book, the SecretPower of you. It's right here. And
honestly, I think we'reexcited to read through this. What

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started or what stemmed this book?
So, you know, when I firststarted moving into intuitive healing,
I actually was corporate, 100%corporate. And then I had a spiritual
epiphany that we can talkabout, but I do everything all in.
And so when I realized that abook is an extension of the calling

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card, that I knew I had towrite my story. And also, there are
tips and tricks that I provideto my clients. So besides just doing
a session, they're gonna walkaway with tangible things that they
can use in their life to helpchange the things that they're feeling,
they're struggling with. And Iput a lot of the tips and tricks
in the book. Oh, wow. Becausethey're really simple, yet very profound.

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To help you, I. I label thesethings tools for success. So that
book is a tool for success. Wow.
So this is not a memoir. Thisis more of a tool.
That's right. So it'll startwith my story and what catapulted
me. And then also it'll talkabout certain things, about, you

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know, are you watering deadflowers? Meaning staying with relationships
that no longer serve you or,you know, and. And how you can see
it and how you can get out of it.
Now, I keep laughing becausewhen I was just flipping through
pages, and the first thing Iopen is chapter six, it says, fearlessness
releases your forward desires.And then I had to chuckle because

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is that not what we just spenta lot of time talking about.
Yeah.
So I thought that was really funny.
Yeah.
So what did we just do for our listeners?
Yeah. So Terri offered to do aenergy healing session.
Yes.
On me.
Yeah.
And so we started off withthat. And I want to get into that.

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But for those who haven'talready gotten to know you, can you
kind of introduce ourlisteners to, like, your whole story,
starting from your accident and.
Okay. Yeah, if we can go, wecan dive deep.
Let's do it.
Do it. It's on your website.
Yes, yes. We're starting. Yes,yes. So when I was eight years old,
I was hit by a car. I had alacerated liver. Bruce Spleen, dislocated

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left arm, and I broke my jaw.But it was pretty serious. It was
the condyles, the balls thatactually open and close both of them.
And so back then. I'm not aspring chicken. I'd like to say I'm
39 again. But back then no oneknew what they could do for me. So
they wired my jaw shut, andthen it was frozen shut. You've heard

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frozen shoulder. Well, so wasmy jaw. And being able to eat with
a spoon, the spoon, thecurvature is not that much. I could
not get it into my mouth. So Ilived like that between the age of
8 and 14. Wow. Yeah, just likethat. So everything was through a
straw. And that's how I ate.And so then there was this amazing

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couple. So I'm a mastermanifester. I manifest ice out of
the sky. And my brother endedup meeting this older couple, almost
like grandparents. They wereso kind and sweet and started taking
my brother to church. And thenthey found out he had sisters and
started taking my brother, ormy. Excuse me, my sisters, myself

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and my sister with him tochurch. And then over time, they
started. Started learningabout our hardships. And, you know,
we were. We had teenageparents and all the lack we had,
it was. It was tough. It's avery tough life. And so when they
found out that I had this caraccident and then I was struggling
to eat, they could see I couldhardly open my mouth. Then they revealed

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to my mom that their son was adentist. Oh. And a special dentist
in Florida. And that there isa program in Florida for children
that have severe problems thatthey would offer the surgery, the
treatment for free. Oh, wow.So we end up moving to Florida.

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Manifested that.
I know.
Did you manifest that at sucha young age?
Yes, I. Girl, I manifestedsome of the moment I came into this
body.
I manifested this gorgeousbody too.
Yes, and so I ended up goingto Florida and having the surgery
which allowed me to starteating again. They actually drilled

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two plastic pieces into my jawto lift the condyles so that I could
actually open and close mymouth. And so. And then to this day,
I'm still going through majordental work because my jaw became
unaligned. And. Yeah, so thenthere, you know, they took two years,
two and a half years torealign it. Now I'm going through

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some other stuff right now.It's taken about four years to get
me. I'm. I'm very special. Sofrom there, we ended up living in
Florida for a while. And, youknow, lots of things that children
shouldn't have to go through,I went through along with my sister
and brother. And I ended upcoming back to my dad in Maryland,

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in Baltimore, actually,because that's where I'm from. And
then he ended up remarryingand then. Then staying with them
and, and graduating highschool and then deciding that at
17, out of high school, that Iwas gonna live on my own. Oh, at
17, yes.
I. It's like emancipation, youknow, it was.
More about that there were somany rules that I didn't want to

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have to abide by. Meaning, youknow, you could only take a shower
at night, you could only be onthe phone for 15 minutes, you could
only be. And you have to worktoo. And I'm thinking, well, if I.
Then I'd rather be living onmy own and have my own set of roles.
So I moved out when I was 17.And so my family. And I was very

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close to my grandparents,which were on my dad's side, so my
paternal grandparents, veryclose to them. But, you know, old
school, that if you want tobuy something, you have to have money
in the bank, no credit cards,everything you want to buy. And so
I remember I bought a brandnew car because everything we would
buy used up until a certainpoint. But I was about 24 and I decided

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I didn't want to live likethat anymore. So I bought a brand
new car. It was BMWconvertible. So I went all out and
I remember I parked it on theside of my grandparents. And I'm
trying not to cry for thisstory because it's just gut wrenching
when I remember it. But Iparted from the side and I wanted
to share. My grandfather, Iwas so close to him. Just wanted

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to show you. I just want to. Iwant to surprise him that I really
worked hard and got this car.
Be proud of me.
I. That's what I Wanted. Andhe was standing at the door, and
he goes, where's your car? AndI said, it's right. Right around
the corner. Where? Where? Isaid, come with me, Grandpa. So we're
walking down the sidewalk andhe goes, where's your car? I don't
see it. And I said, it'sparked under the tree. That's my

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BMW. And he looked at me andhe said, who do you think you are?
It was gut wrenching to thinkthe man that you want to be so proud
of, you said that. It was likemy soul shattered in that very moment.

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In that very moment. And theninstead of it dragging me down, it
catapulted me. Yeah. I said,oh, no. So I bid him farewell. And
I didn't talk to him muchafter that. And I found myself always
working two jobs. Because ifyou wanna buy something new, you

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have to have money in thebank. And do you see, I'm telling
you these things for what wasput upon me. You know, the childhood
stuff of you gotta work harduntil you bleed, you know, who do
you think you are by beingable to get ahead, things like that.
So here I am, still living allof those things that were put upon

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me, just like you are, justlike all the listeners, living what
was put upon me. And my soulwas saying, no, why does it have
to be like this? Why can't itbe different? And so when I moved
into, you know, my 30s, I'mstill working two jobs. 40s, I'm
still working two Jobs. Andthen I attracted the father of my

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children and things. We weretogether 14 years. But I am a complete
giver. And I kept giving andgiving and giving. And I always felt
that if you give, you'llreceive. And I poured into him, poured
into him, poured into himendlessly thinking if he would only

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see how I love him so much, hewould only know that it's safe and,
you know, and everything heever wanted is all within me. And
then when we had two childrentogether and it didn't turn into
that, it was doing theopposite effect. So the more I gave,
the more he took. And so thenit became where he was controlling

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everything. And I couldn'tfigure out why it was happening to
the point where right before Ileft, he was controlling what I wore,
where we went. It was pretty extreme.
Wow.
It was very extreme. And soover all those years of pouring in
so much love, thinking, youknow, what? Is this really what love

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is about? Because if it is,I'm out. Yeah, I don't want to be
here like Physically don'twant to be here. And I figured, well,
my kids are going to be okay.Their dad's here. I don't need to
be here. So that last year ofthat relationship, I cried every
night, like gut wrenchingcrying to the point where my 12 year

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old Samantha, my, my oldestcame to me and I was laying on my
side and I was facing the, thecloset and I was just, oh my God,
it was just so gut wrenching.And she came over and she was rubbing
my leg and she says, mommy,don't cry anymore. And I'm like,
oh, there's another shatter,right? Your soul just goes, what

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the hell?
Yeah, your baby.
It was my firstborn consolingme, trying to calm me down. And I'm
like. And I was so confused.In this state of going, she shouldn't
be seeing me like this. Sheshouldn't be having to tell her,
mommy, don't cry anymore. Thisis like the worst thing that could

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happen. In my mind I wassaying, this is the worst thing.
And then a couple of weekslater I said, okay, I'm done now.
I did not have the strength tounalive myself, but I felt like God,
higher self, source, light,whatever you want to call it. I felt
like, you know, God could dothis for me. I'm in so much agony
emotionally, which was turninginto physical agony. I was ready.

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So it was 3am I'll neverforget. I looked over at the clock,
he was sound asleep. And justlike always, I was tiptoeing out,
didn't want to wake him. And Iwent into the bathroom and I laid
there and with every ounce ofme, I said, God, take me. Just, I
am so ready. Everybody isgoing to be okay. I'm ready. And

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within that space, my eyeswere closed, but I was fully awake.
It was almost like a form oflucid dreaming. And as I was like
wrenching like every ounce ofmy soul, I started feeling this sense
of expansion like, like thin.And I started feeling like I was

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floating again. I'm wideawake, eyes are closed. And I was
floating and I'm like, I canbreathe. I wasn't feeling any physical
pain. I wasn't feeling anyemotional pain. I wasn't feeling
anything. And then, you know,you can blink with your eyes closed.
I was blinking, blinking. Andas I was blinking, all of a sudden,
like stars formed around me. Iwas literally in the center of the

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universe. I could touch thestars, they were so close. I felt
this dampness all around me. Ifelt fully expanded and free. I felt
I'm at bliss. I made it. I didit. I'm one. I'm like, oh, I have
no more worries, no moredoubt. This is it. And I was always,

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like, just basking in it. Youcould say it was seconds. It felt
like hours for me. I heardthree simple words. Love will come.
It was very masculine. It wasjust like that. And it vibrated like
I was in the center of aspeaker. It was all around me. And

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as soon as I heard was like,this sudden, like. Like, shake, right?
And then I got this whooshback into my body, and then I'm like,
what? What? And I was, like,shaking, girl. I was ladies. I was
100% corporate. None of thiswas, like, in my wheel. My. What

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do they call?
Wheelhouse.
Wheelhouse.
Yeah.
With none of this. And so Iwas freaking out. Like, what?
Going crazy now.
I felt. Yeah. And I stood upand I was shaking. Like something
happened, but I didn't know.And I knew. I heard it. I knew what
happened. I saw it, I felt it.And I crawled back in the bed. And

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when I woke up, I'm like. Ifelt as if God threw that rope into
the hole I was in. And then Iclimbed out. I had this sense of,
like, I, as an energy healer,don't like to hear when my client
uses the word hope, becausehope, they sit back and say, all

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right, I hope that happens.But in the sense when you are at
the lowest of low, there'snothing else but to leave a physical
body that. That sense of hopelifts you out of that dark despair
feeling, right? And I said,oh, my gosh, I'm going to finally
get what I've been asking forfor 14 years and probably all my

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life. At this point, whenpeople sit back and say, I just hope
that'll happen, they'resitting back expecting it to come
to them, right? But the hopethat was given to me lifted me from
the lowest of low. And sobeing able to.
It's worth it.
Yes.
There's something worth it.
Yes. Yes. That I'm going tofinally receive what I felt I never

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had. Love. So the very nextday. Now I'm going to put that on
pause because, you know, hecreated a 1950s kind of house. I
had to have the food on thetable. I did have a 9 to 5 job. I
was supposed to travel alittle bit, but he started reeling
that in, too. And I took careof the kids. I took care of everything

(28:41):
on the inside of the house,and he did everything on the outside
of the house. So with thatsaid, he was sitting There reading
his newspaper, having hiscocktail. Bring me this, take care
of that. What's for dinner? Ashe's walking in from the gym. And
I had to make sure the dinnerwas right on the table. It was not
what I ever thought I would beliving. Yeah. And my soul was saying,

(29:04):
I hate this. Yeah. But my lovefor him was, if I just do it one
more night, if I just do itone more day, he'll see and he'll
turn into my prince Charming.Well, we know that it just didn't
work out that way. And so Irealized that I needed the strength

(29:26):
to either change within me,which then allowed me to get the
strength to leave therelationship, because he wasn't going
to change after 14 years. Iallowed to what he created. I allowed
it.
I mean, you did talk aboutyour past, though. And I kind of
feel like you're saying, yeah,I allowed it. And it's true. We have

(29:49):
to take responsibility for thethings that happen to us, I think.
Yes.
But then at the same time, I.I'm wondering, like, how much can
you say, oh, it's all myfault, but really there's also patterns
that you were reliving over again.
Yes, but I didn't say it wasall my fault.
Oh, that's a good point.That's a good point. It's probably
me projecting.
Yes. Because I said that hecreated that 1950s lifestyle, but

(30:15):
I allowed it, so it was anequal. I could have said, no, I'm
not. It's your time to cook.Or can you cook? Or can, you know,
can we do other things? But Iwas so enthralled by wanting love
from him that I was doingwhatever it took to please him so

(30:36):
that he could love me. Itdoesn't work that way, my friends.
You have to love yourselffirst. You have to. And within that
you set boundaries. No, and Ois a full sentence. But I didn't
want to say any of that forfear of losing something I wanted

(30:59):
so badly, but I wasn't gettingit. Do you see what I'm saying? But
I was convincing myself thatif I just do it one more time, one
more day, one more year, thathe would see and love me. And it
only got worse. So finally Igot the strength after that spiritual
epiphany because really crazythings were happening after that.

(31:22):
Like off the chart crazythings. Like, I would go to a store
and this was before I lefthim, but I'd go to a store and people
would walk up to me and starttelling me their gut wrenching stories.
About abuse and neglect. And Iwas just standing in a store, someone
would just walk up and starttalking to me. Wow, like what? And

(31:45):
I knew after reflecting fromthat over all these years, realizing
that God was showing me thateveryone has stuff going on, you
just don't know about it. Andyours may not have been as bad as
theirs, or what you'relabeling may not be as bad as theirs.

(32:05):
Yes, mine was pretty bad tothe point where I almost unlodged
myself. But it showed me thatthere is a lot out there that people
are experiencing, and I'm notalone. Yes. And so once I, you know,
those crazy things werehappening, and then I had this woman

(32:28):
start coming to me. I leftcorporate for a minute and became
an esthetician. And this womanjust appeared, and she wanted me
to do her brows. And I'llnever forget her. She's so amazing.
And at first, she was justcoming for the appointment, and she
was scheduling it once amonth. And by the third or fourth
appointment, she says, youknow, I have a message for you. Would

(32:51):
you let them tell you? And Isaid, them? And I'm looking around
the room, and I'm like, who'sthem? And I'm like, okay, whatever.
And she sat on the edge of thebed, and she closed her eyes, and
she started telling me thesestories that, oh, someone owes you
money and they're going to payup in the next 30 days. And when

(33:13):
your childhood. I'll neverforget that one, because that person
did pay up 30 days. It was mydad, really. He owed me money and
he paid out. She didn't know.She didn't know me. Other than coming
in. I was doing a browse, andwe weren't really talking personal
stuff. And when he. She toldme that it was a way. Because, remember,

(33:36):
I said I was not. I was 100%corporate. I was not in the spiritual
realm. God was giving thesemessages through her. And we can
label it God, but I'm going sopeople can understand. But giving
me messages so that I can letgo of any feeling of not trusting
what she was giving me, thesemessages of saying, something's gonna

(34:01):
happen and it's gonna support you.
Oh, so, like, you couldn'teven say, oh, maybe that was the
universe and it wasn't. Maybeit was just a coincidence.
I don't believe incoincidence. Even back then, I didn't.
Oh, you didn't?
No, no.
I didn't believe incoincidence. And so when, you know,
she gave me that message, andI said, okay, well, we'll see. Because
I. I'm the type that wouldnever say no. I'd say, okay, okay,

(34:25):
I received that. Let. Let's.Let me think about that. And I would
put it, like, in my littlebasket to hold to. For it to present,
right? Meaning let it showitself. And then when my dad paid
off and I could not wait forher to come back. Cause you remember
she came back once a month. Assoon as she walked in, I closed the
door and I said, girl, thankyou. Like what? I never expected

(34:52):
to see that money. Because itwas significant, right? And because,
you know your dad, you justdon't expect to see it. And whammo,
there it was. And then shesays, we have. We have more messages
for you. And so the more shestarted giving me messages about,
you know, we see you doingcertain things and, you know, and

(35:13):
in this capacity. Andremember, I was. I had left corporate,
went to Esthetician, and I'mlike, okay, okay. And I would just
go, okay. But then she wasplanting these little seeds, and
then I just went, hmm. Iremember she came after the spiritual

(35:33):
epiphany. She came after whenall these people were coming to me
in these stores and telling methese stories. So I was open to hear
what was happening and whatwas going on. And then as they were
showing itself, the end resultwas happening with what she was telling
me. I couldn't deny that thatwas like.
In your face, right?

(35:55):
So what I realized is, like,you know what? This stuff is making
sense to me. The books I wasreading, Esther Hicks, Wayne Dyer,
you know, I call them themasters of Psychic 101. It helps
you understand thingsdifferent than what you are believing

(36:15):
you're experiencing. It'sabout the creation inside your intuition,
trusting things that you canmanifest. Because I am a master manifester.
That started after the caraccident that I had. And I didn't
realize that I was a mastermanifester. But remember, we were,
you know, children fromchildren, and we had a lot of lack.

(36:37):
But I kept hearing the N Oword, but in my head, I was repeating
K, N O W. So I wasn't allowingmyself as a child to be put off by
that N O word. I was saying tomyself, I can figure this out. I'm
gonna get it. And then I wouldjust sit in my room and visualize

(37:01):
that I could have a new pairof pants or a new dress, and a neighbor
would give it to me. Yeah. Orthe church family gave it to me.
Or, you know, I got so manythings that my mom started telling
people, stop giving it to me.
So many people would have beengifted those things. And the thought

(37:25):
I. I wanted a new dress or Iwanted not hand me downs or whatnot,
I don't know. But I feel likeyou being grateful for what the universe
was giving you and actuallyallowing yourself to see that it
was a gift.
Yeah.
That probably made yourmanifestational powers grow stronger.
So because it's not acoincidence, I can give you a clear

(37:47):
defined one. And I'll neverforget. I remember it so clearly.
It was my dad's dad, or,excuse me, my mom's dad, my. My maternal
grandfather. I was hisfavorite. He did whisper that to
me when I was little. I knowhe did whisper that to me one day.
And I'm like, oh, Grandpacalled him Pop Pop. He used to take

(38:11):
me to Lexington. LexingtonMarket in Baltimore. There's an open
market in this warehouse. And.And everybody would go, and you'd
buy the fish. Like New York.Like Chelsea Market. The fish, the
cheese. And, you know, and hewould take me, and then he would,
like, you know, get yourcandy. Get what you want. And I remember
he would walk down the streetholding my hand and telling me all

(38:32):
these stories from hischildhood, you know, because we were,
like, buds. And we walked intoHex. All these stores are no longer
existing, but. But walked intoHex, and at the time, those satin
jackets were really popular.They were like. All the kids were

(38:52):
wearing it. Well, my parentsdidn't have the money to buy anything
for us. I never told him that.That's what I was dreaming of, that
I want to have one of those.And I remember walking through the
store, and, you know, thepoles, they'll have the square pole
in the middle of the store invarious parts to hold up the ceiling,
right? Yeah. Well, in thatstore, they were hanging some of

(39:17):
the clothes, the jackets, onone of those poles. And we were walking
by, and I looked up, and itwas a pink satin jacket. And I'm
like. And the angels weresinging when I was looking at it.
And he saw me looking at it,and he said, do you want that? And
I said, yep. And he bought itfor me. And my mom made him take

(39:40):
it back. Oh, no. Mom made himtake it back because he bought it
from me. And my brother andsister didn't get anything. And that
was the thing, because I wasmanifesting all of these things I
never told him I wanted. Ijust looked at it. But when I looked
at it, he could see the lovethat was like. And he's like, you

(40:02):
can have that. But it was away. I mean, Come on. My friends
walking in that store, seeingthat jacket right there, that's called
manifesting. That is notcalled a coincidence. And I manifested
that. But then it came down tomy mom saying, no. And hearing that
multiple times, I'm like, no.This catapulted me to know. I'll

(40:26):
figure it out. I'll get itmyself. I'll do it. I will have everything
I want and more. I do not carewhat anyone says. And that's why
I was able to get the car. Andthen hearing my grandfather telling
me, who do you think you are?And I'm like, what? And then I'm
like, nope, that's another oneI'm gonna jump over. That's another
hurdle. And I kept jumpingover hurdles and kept moving forward

(40:49):
until, you know, I got to thespiritual epiphany. But when I realized
that after starting to readall those books, remember, I didn't
have a lot of time. I wastaking care of the kids, my job,
him, everything. And thengoing to the bookstore after the
day after that spiritualepiphany and then pulling those authors,
I said, you know, EstherHicks, Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle,

(41:12):
and going, who are thesepeople? And then I was looking at
these books. No joke. I wouldopen two at a time and go, that makes
sense. That makes sense. Oh,my God. It's almost like I became
a speed reader. I don't evenknow. It's like something happened
to me, and the more I read,the more it made sense. And my friends.

(41:32):
The truth makes sense.
Yeah.
So when I was realizing thisis really making sense to me, and
then I was just owning thefact that, wow, you can think things
and make it happen. I've beendoing that for a long time. I didn't
realize I was manifestingthings. You can, you know, wish for
things, but it's more thanwishing. It's the gratitude. I mean,
this is a lifestyle. Thegratitude, the trusting, the k n

(41:57):
o w ing. I was already settingmyself up to be where I am with the
decisions and the actions as achild and k n o w ing it. Right?
Yeah.
The truth is just trying to behappy with me, loving me. And so
the more I started realizing,reading those books, I said, man,

(42:20):
what's this Reiki? You know,what's this energy weight you do?
Reiki?
Yeah.
How do I not know that?
I don't think I knew that.
Well, I'm only level 2, but.
So Reiki. Well, any form ofenergy work, I call a lily pad. Anything
you do, actually, you stepinto something It's a lily pad. What
do frogs do? They sit on thelily pad, basking in the sun, eating

(42:44):
the little crickets and thingsthat fly by. And when they're done,
they jump to another lily padright when they're done. It's the
same thing with the thingsthat we do. So I started with Reiki
because I'm like, I don't knowthis energy work, and, you know,
let me do it on me. Thensomebody did it on me, and I'm like,
oh, my gosh, what was that allabout? And I remember at nih, which

(43:10):
is not too far from here, it'svery close, actually, they had a
department. They weren'ttelling the public, but they had
a department about energywork, and they were allowing these
providers to work on peopleand to see and investigate what this
energy work, this Reiki, is about.

(43:31):
Are these scientists or is NIHa hospital?
National institute. Nih.National Institute of Health. Yeah.
Okay, okay, yeah. Where theywere studying. Studying research
and all that. Well, they had awhole department. And again, I didn't
even know that. Most of thepublic didn't. I don't even think
any of the public knew aboutthis pocket. And this is a fact.

(43:54):
So if anybody wants toresearch it, this is a fact. Because
I ended up. Don't ask me how Ifound the Reiki master. I don't even
recall. I just manifested her.She was the department head, so I
know that this is a fact. Whenshe came and told me about it, and
I said, huh? What? I got anattunement for level one and two,

(44:15):
and I. I decided not to go tothree. And so when I started as the
esthetician, I had already hadthe attunement, so I started telling
my clients, can I play quoteunquote with you? Will you allow
me? Yes, yes, yes. Whateveryou want to do. I said, oh, I'm doing
this kind of thing calledReiki. Oh, what's that? I don't know,

(44:35):
but I'm just going to playwith you. Let me tell you ladies,
when I would work with them,every single person, what are you
doing? I can feel it. What'sgoing on? I can feel it. I said,
okay, we're just doing magic,right? And so what I've realized
over time is that the firstquestion was, what are you doing?

(44:57):
What's going on? And I feltthere was more to this whole thing,
because the practice of Reikiis that you're just the conduit.
The energy comes through you,goes to the client, wherever it's
Going to heal you. Hug. Andthey go on their merry way. That's
the protocol now. Over allthese years, they're really big at

(45:20):
all. Changed it.
Stay away. It's just. You'rejust. It's just going through you.
That's right. But over time,people have changed it, you know,
And I. I said, that's aprotocol. That's what you've learned.
Great. But when I startedrealizing, I said, there's more to
this. So I started breathing acertain way. As I've worked with
you, I was breathing a certainway when I first started. I'd say,

(45:43):
if I breathe in, I can breathethe energy into me. If I breathe
out, I can put it where I wantit to go. So I started saying that
to myself. And so I startedcreating my own modality where I
could actually maneuver theenergy and place it where I want
it to go. And then more peopleare like, I can really feel it. Where

(46:05):
are you going? And I say, oh,I'm putting it right here or on your
shoulder. And oh, my God, I'mfeeling heat. And people would tell
me these things. And so overtime, you know, I was practicing
with them, but then I'm like,okay, I need to develop more. I always
believe that if you're in thespace, because there'll be listeners
that, oh, I do Reiki or I doenergy work, but you have to have

(46:29):
a baseline of what you'redoing, or you'll be all over the
place. So I took an intuitivedevelopment course that lasted a
year, and we were meetingevery week. And so I was able to
develop some of the thingsthat I was figuring out on my own
about this manipulation ormaneuvering of energy where I can

(46:51):
put it all for the best andhighest good. All for the best and
highest good. I had to repeatthat because when. When someone hears
that word that I said,manipulation, immediately people
think that's negative. So I'mlike, no, I am maneuvering. I am
placing it that energy whereit's. I know it needs to be. And

(47:15):
that K N O W. Remember, Istarted training myself when I was
little so that again,intuitively living and flipping how
I saw it and already placingmyself to be the master of maneuvering
energy and not knowing it.Right? And so then I said, okay,

(47:36):
let me maneuver it. Let meplace it where I want to be. And
then what I was finding isthat people would say, oh, my gosh,
I had a pain in my shoulder.And how did you know I don't have
it anymore? And I had backpain and look, I can get up and touch
my toes. And I started seeingthat and they were experiencing that.

(47:57):
And so over time, I startedasking God, because, you know, that's
my connection. We're likepeanut butter and jelly. That I said,
I want to be more precise.Show me, give me ideas. Let me know
when I'm on top of something,meaning a limiting belief or somebody
is struggling, something. Tellme and show me that I'm on top of

(48:20):
it. Because that's. That'swhat was just at the beginning of
my practice. And then what Istarted seeing, a pattern is a feeling
that I was just gifted themost wonderful birthday or Christmas
present. Like, ah. And I thinkI said in your session, I'm on top
of it, or I feel it, or I, youknow, and I know I'm on. I'm like,

(48:41):
I can feel it. And so once Irealized that that was a pattern
of feeling, I said, now I'm ontop of exactly what's going on. And
then through the intuitivedevelopment course, I was able to
strengthen my clairaudience,my voyance, and my sentience. Those
are the three strongest onesthat are really good when you're

(49:02):
doing energy work becausepeople want, first of all, they want
to be able to see it. So whenyou're seeing something in your head,
your mind's eye, right, thevoyance that you're describing it,
they're getting a picture aswell. When you're hearing conversations,
that's a clear audience. Thenyou're giving them confirmation that,

(49:22):
oh, I just heard and whateverit is I'm sharing. And they're like,
oh, how'd you know? I thinkyou rolled your eyes a couple times
when I was right on whatrolling means. Ah, how'd she know
that I shared? You said wejust had a conversation about that
because I was picking it up inyour energy field. So I heard it
or I felt it, right. And thatclairsentian is just K N o W. And

(49:47):
I had already placed myself tosupersize into that as a child. So
utilizing just the threeclairs, or our six. But those three
strongest ones are themasterpiece of being able to help
people in a profound way. I'mgiving them a description, I'm telling
them what I'm hearing. Andthat. That knowing, no matter what

(50:10):
you say, I know I'm on top ofit, even if I have to explain it
a different way of whatever itis I'm picking up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know what to expectbefore we started doing the healing
session. Now what is thedifference of this between what you're
doing and Reiki?
So I am more involved where,you know, with Reiki, as I stated

(50:36):
protocol, you just standthere, quiet, hug goodbye.
Okay.
I manipulate or maneuver theenergy where I want it to go.
And when you say that, are yousaying, I'm feeling anger? Let me
pull that out and then justflick it, like, into the universe.
There you go.

(50:56):
Or like.
Like I anger. And you wentright to your heart. So anger can
be in your heart or in yoursolar plexus, which is your stomach.
And people can hold anger intheir heart when they've had parental
challenges. And so, you know,I. I automatically start with putting
one hand on the heart and theother on the stomach so that I can
find the connection to thefears and the love and what's going

(51:19):
on. Right. That's the reasonwhy I start when I'm physically with
a client, I do remote work,and it's slightly different. It's
more talking, but as I closemy eyes, like I did in the room,
most of the time my eyes wereclosed, but I can pick things up
remotely. But the face toface, I like to see people, especially
when they're local. And ifthey're not, I've had many, many

(51:40):
people fly to see me, but thenif they have physical stuff, then
I can go right to shifting itout. So, like, I start with the,
as I said, the stomach and theheart, and then source just guides
me. I'll see, you know, go tothe shoulders or all here, go to
the head, and I'll just go towherever I'm guided to.

(52:00):
Okay. That was one of myquestions. It's because, like, with
Melissa, you went to differentparts of the body and not with me.
And you did actually alsostart in a different position. So
I wasn't sure, like, if thatwas like, oh, I'm called to start
here. I'm called to go here.Or, like, what?
She did go to lots of parts onyour body. She did your hip.

(52:22):
I remember the hip.
Stomach, your throat, your head.
Yes.
Occipital.
Yep.
She went to your feet, though.
She did go to my feet.
And so I was like, you were.
A little bit like, what aboutmy feet? My feet are cute.
I mean, it was feeling, like,a pretty good massage on my neck.
So, like, yeah, you couldhave, like, rubbed my feet just a
little bit. But it was nice.

(52:44):
The feeder about, like, movingforward, and I felt you needed some
grounding because the more wewere talking about some things. Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah. So I was guided to go toyour feet. And you know, when we
were filming, I'm like, oh,I'm out of the, out of the screen.
But I needed to. And remember,you lifted your feet for me and I
said, no, no, you don't haveto do that for me. You're such a

(53:05):
giver, I can take care of it.
And what's so funny is that'sthe exact story for yourself that
you were sharing. And so whenas you were talking to us just now,
it was making me think like,oh, this is like the exact challenge
that you have had in yourlife. So how do you know? How can
you put your own feelings andyour own experience aside?

(53:28):
I love that. That's amazing. Ilove. That's an excellent question.
Because first off, I separatemyself and become just the participant
watching, right? Even thoughmy physical body with my hands are
doing it. I don't own your stuff.
I was hoping that's the.

(53:49):
What you would say, I don'town any of it because if I did, it
would take me down. You know,at the very beginning, I love this
story. At the very beginning,I was spending 20 hours on a psychic
website for five years andraising two children on my own. A
40 hour job, plus another 20hours a week to be on an advisor

(54:10):
on a psychic website. But Iwas doing it. It was the playbox.
It was a sandbox to play in ifI wanted to expand and grow and be
able to play with people thatI, I didn't know. Right. And so I
remember this one woman cameto me and she said, okay, I want
you to heal me. My son, mydaughter, my dog, my boyfriend, my

(54:33):
husband. That's what she said.My boyfriend and husband.
Oh no, I didn't even catch that.
I was just like, oh, yes, shetold me that didn't. And I said,
okay, so I'm all in. And I'mlike, you know, it's all remote work.
I'm closing my eyes and I'mvisualizing. And I'm like, okay,
you're the husband. Now you'reboyfriend. Now you're this, now you're

(54:53):
that. And by the time I got tothe dog, it was like an hour later.
I was so sick to my stomach. Iwas dizzy and sick to my stomach.
And I said, okay, we're donenow, gotta go. I went in the bathroom
and I was hugging the toilet.And I said, I'm gonna throw up. I'm
like, why? What is going on?And I went back to my mentor and
I said, what? I wanted herhealing more than she did. I took

(55:22):
it on. I took on wanting itmore than she. And so once, and thank
goodness, that was at the verybeginning of learning this work.
And I said, I understand now.So now I don't go in insensitive
and. Cause I am all in foryou. I want you to be empowered and

(55:45):
to receive all the things yourheart is singing to. Right. I want
that for you, but I will neverwant it more than you. Yeah. And
so now when I go in, I'mhearing the stories, and sometimes
I'll cry with you and, youknow, I'll see an amazing breakthrough
physical. And I'm crying withmy clients too. Yes, yes, I'm all
in. I feel it, but I alsodon't own it. And so now I don't

(56:10):
get taken down. I don't getdizzy. I don't. Now every once in
a while, I call the work I do.I take my baby toe and touch the
pool of water, but I'mallowing my physical body to show
me and tell me what's goingon, just so I can understand quickly.
I don't sit in it so that Ican get nauseous and dizzy. So if

(56:32):
I do get dizzy, it getsinstantaneous and it stops and you
are too much into your head. Iam like, dizzy. Oh, no way. And that's
somebody who's constantly intheir head. So my. My body will help
me understand with what I'mpicking up, but it's just so slight
and it's very quick, and it'sinterpretations besides what I'm

(56:56):
seeing and hearing andknowing. So I take it one step further.
So to answer your question,the difference between Reiki is that
I felt it was too simple.
I actually do too.
Yes. Because people want more.They want to know, what are you seeing?
Because I asked you, do youhave any final questions? People

(57:18):
will want to know, what'd yousee? What more do you have for me?
What's my future? Becauseremember, I spent five years on the
psychic website. The strongestprobability in your energy field.
And so with them wanting more,Reiki wasn't giving up.
Wait, sorry, what does thatmean? What is the strongest probability
in your meaning, energy fields?
Psychic work is the strongestprobability of what's in your energy

(57:40):
field. Okay, so that's thefuture. Psychic work is future, current
and future, but most of thetime, future. Yes. And so with Reiki,
people want more than justhug, and they want to know what happened.
So once I realized or what areyou doing? What are you seeing? They

(58:01):
want to take home somethingthat says, I Didn't see that coming.
I didn't know that. I thinkyou even said I didn't. Whatever
you were saying, you didn'tput it together or something.
Yes. Yes. I forgot.
Yeah. I forgot exactly how yousaid it. But I hear that all the
time, that I didn't see thatcoming or I didn't know, or. Oh,

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now I know why. Right. Yeah. Ididn't think of that that way because
I'm going right to the core ofyour subconscious. Subconscious.
You don't remember. Yeah.Because we're living consciously
here. But I'm picking up thestories embedded from childhood that
are keeping you from whateverit is that you feel like you're struggling

(58:45):
with. So I'm the person whoputs the pieces of your puzzle together
and then can shift it soyou'll feel more enlightened. You'll
feel that it's not botheringyou anymore, you know, and that these
coincidences are happeningbecause they're not a coincidence.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah. You mentioned that whenyou were playing with clients that

(59:07):
they would be like, oh, I canfeel that.
I can feel that.
And I remember there were afew times, like, you might have been,
like, holding my hand orsomething. And then, like, a few
minutes later, I would feel,like, heat, like, behind my shoulder
or something, and I'm like,oh, okay, that's weird. Or maybe
I. Yeah. And so there was,like, several of those.
Oh, you're sharing it now.
I'm sharing it.

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You didn't share it on the table.
I mean, was it obvious whichone of us is more?
No, no, it's all good. She's aprocessor. We know.
Right.
Thank you for sharing it now.So. Yeah. So what's happening is.
Yes. Shoulders are.
I guess I didn't know thatthat was, like, something to feel
until you were describing,like, oh, when I'm doing this, people

(59:49):
were saying, I'm feeling thisor feeling that. So I. I guess I
just maybe thought, oh, she'spushing a pressure point.
And, you know, I thank you forstepping into something unknown to
you. Right.
Yeah.
And I kept saying to you, youtaught. You're responding with, like,
someone who's never worked inenergy work before. And that's okay

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because you're a person wholabels everything as a coincidence
or, you know, I gotta think itout or process it out when you don't
have to.
I have to find the truth. Likethe fact. Like.
Yes, but I tell people that Iam not the book of science. I'm not,
but I am the end result ofwhat you're Looking for. So would

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you rather sit there and say,I need to know why that happened,
or would you rather say, thankyou, Terri? I'm grateful that it
did happen as an adult. We nowhave lived these experiences that
we remember as a child, andnow we have longevity of what responsibility

(01:00:54):
is, what value is, the billswe have to pay, what we want to say,
not to say. We don't want tohurt people's feelings. No, not as
a child. As I stated when youwere laying on the bed, the child
is seeing things for the firsttime. Then when you're hearing, we
have to lie to dad. What? Wehave to lie to dad. Oh, man. Well,

(01:01:19):
we got to lie to dad. How am Igoing to do that? Right. Because.
And that's the first time youheard it. You've heard it multiple
times. But then you're like,whoa. A child has to now make a decision.
I don't really want to lie. Iwas told never to lie, but now my
mom is telling me that's alie. And lie to dad. All right. I'm
a lie to dad because my. My,you know, mom's protector. I'm a

(01:01:41):
lie to dad. But then all theseother things. Dad's this and Dad's
that. And so now you'regetting this perception that dad
is all these things, and thenit's your whatever mom is saying,
and then whatever however dadis acting that's like, oh, proof
that what mom is saying isproof that what dad. Now I really
have to lie. Now I really haveto separate. Now I really have to

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he backs.
Up and validate everythingthat she was teaching.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah. So they're both aperception of burden. I was on the
dad's shoulder when you gotthe feeling from the mom. It's perfect.
Okay, I'm feeling somethingagain, but I just. I'm not clicking.

(01:02:25):
It's in your head. That's notclicking because your body is responding
and saying. Yes, explain.
Maybe you're not. So whenyou're saying, because I'm not 100%
sure I get it. And maybe thisis where you're.
Okay, okay.
When you're saying that, whenyou. Wait, say that last line again.
It was the perception ofburden lifted from your. That's what

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shifted on the mom's side when.
What happened?
When I was working on thedad's shoulder. So on the right side
is dad perception of burden.
So we were working on dad was.
Project it as a big burden.You have to lie. You have to. Whatever
the listing that all thethings your mother Told you to do
because of dad. Because of dadis a burden.

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Okay.
Okay. And I was working onyour dad's side, but your mom created
that perception of burdenthrough what she was saying. So as
a child, you're going to getboth of that feeling. Because mom,
you're telling us to lie.Okay. And then over time, dad showing

(01:03:29):
why your mom was saying youhave to lie. Right. But a block is
created in the first incident,not. And sometimes multiple. But
in your case, the firstincident. So through mom's perception
of burden, dad is also aburden. So then now, because dad

(01:03:52):
is proven that he's a burden,I was working through the dad's shoulder.
Right. The right side. Toallow you to release the mom burden.
Okay.
Whether it was big or smallwas getting released.
Yes. And it's. Everything is.
Maybe it was easier to releasethe mom burden. Is that a possibility?

(01:04:14):
Why? Yeah, because you let goof that first. The ripe fruit is
things that you're gonna feelreally eas, because it's right on
the surface.
Now, the other thing, one ofthe things that I want to work on,
I. I do hear things and knowthings sometimes. And so, like, I
need to fine tune it because Idon't know what I'm doing.
Baseline, Baseline.
And one of the. So thathappened during your guys session,

(01:04:37):
there was like two times thatI can think off right off the top
of my bat. One of them was, ofcourse I heard you. Like, I want
to be under the blanket. Sojust go in the blanket.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. So let's callthe listeners that. She basically
just read my mind and realizedthat, no, you really want this. And
I was like, don't tell me whatI want. But she was right.

(01:04:58):
Now, the second time thatreally stood out is she was. And
I'm only talking about thisbecause you have already revealed
this in another episode. Soshe was working on the uterus, and
she was talking about, you'rehaving a hard time with babies. And
you were like, yes, I've hadmiscarriages. And what was interesting

(01:05:19):
is that she was on the right side.
Okay.
So male side. And she saidthat that was your strong side, your
dominant side. What we'velearned from another conversation
with another psychic mediumwas that the twins were boys. And
so it really, like, it sentthese, like, chills up my, like,

(01:05:41):
right arm. Because I was like,like, whoa, the right side's stronger.
And they were boys.
There was a boy, but.
Oh, I thought they were both boys.
That's okay. That's interesting.
Yeah.
I hadn't thought of that yet?
I don't know.
It just made me think of thatbecause you guys were talking about
the babies and then the maleside being stronger. I was like,
oh, they were. They were boys.But that's right.

(01:06:02):
You're right.
It was a boy and a girl.
But it meant. But.
But the fact that like, that she.
Did say the boy side wasstronger, the boy soul was stronger.
She was getting a strongerhim. You're correct.
Yeah.
I was gonna say the fact thateven thought that in there, it must
kind of have meant something.So I'm just kind of thinking to ponder
on that.
But I think it's also becauselike we talked about before we came

(01:06:23):
out here to record is, hey,Melissa, you know, I'm not going
to remember shit about whathappened in my recording, but I know
it happened in yours. And I'msitting there like, I wish I had
popcorn. Great. And Terri wasso, like animated and like, just
made it so funny. And thenthere were many times where I was
like, oh my God, I just wish Ihad popcorn. And then at the end

(01:06:44):
I was like, wait, you can't.You gotta go back and you gotta explain
that story that you said.Nevermind. Too. Which one it was.
We were wondering. There was aperson that she was feeling energy
from you off of. And she goes,well, I could tell you why.
Oh.
Or what's going on.
And then I was like. And thenshe left it. And I was like, I. I

(01:07:06):
also.
Was thinking like threequarters of the way through the session
when we weren't talking aboutthat anymore, I was like, is she
gonna tell me the thing thatshe felt? And then I forgot about
it.
It.
And so I was.
Oh, I wasn't gonna forget.
Oh, yeah, you didn't. No, Iwas waiting. This whole thing, like,
please tell me.
I need my. Like if I couldhave a secret power, I would want
omniscience. Omniscience. Isthat the word?

(01:07:28):
Omniscience? Do you say? Isay. I don't say this, but do you.
I don't know.
Since omniscient.
Me, I want to be omniscient.
She wants to know all things.
I want to know the answer toall things.
Yeah.
All things possible.
Need the answer and the truthto all things. Things.
Yes. Somebody like me.

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Can you recall what thegrandest message was from each of
us when you were doing ourreading? Just to kind of close out?
Because I know that, like Isaid, it's so hard for me to remember
before I go back in. Yeah.
And keep in mind, I'm theMessenger. So I don't own a lot of
stuff, but.
Okay, so it goes in and goes out.
Give me a second. Cause therewas very profound for you. Melissa,

(01:08:12):
Let me start. So yours wasabout life. And I was. I can see
through the body. I can seeorgans. And then I was attracted
right. To your uterus. Okay.And that's when I was saying, okay,
I can see something going onwith your uterus. And then you shared
your. Your history of child.Childbearing. Right. And I'm sorry
that you're going throughthat. Thank you. You're welcome.

(01:08:34):
So. So when I picked that upand I was saying that this side is
weak and the other side. I'mjust kind of paraphrasing. So. And
I said, this is about yourlife where you did. Yes. And I was
saying parts of your life.Half of your life feel strong. The
other part is very weak.
Right. How can I strengthenthat other part?

(01:08:58):
I told you.
See, I gotta watch the video again.
She did tell you.
I did tell you. You. Yeah.
To follow my dirt. My feet.
There was that too. Silly feetin my silly hips.
You know what? Maybe youshould go back and watch it.
I will be well.
But I did tell you.
Okay.
Thank you. That's okay.

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Thank you.
And so for you, yours wasabout you're in your head and trusting,
but trusting that it's morethan just what you're seeing. Yours
was so profound. And I said,you have to change how you are living

(01:09:40):
life. It's a lifestyle becauseyou're living in the survival mode,
not the thriving mode.
I feel like I'm surviving,like I'm getting out of survival
mode. Like I actually feellike I'm still so much better.
I will say she has changed alot over this past year.

(01:10:01):
It. It. Okay.
And so when I talk, she wantssome validation.
When I say this, it's from thesubconscious space.
Okay.
What you're saying is from theconscious space. Okay. When I'm talking,
I'm talking about what'sinside your blueprint of what's going

(01:10:24):
to be triggered. And comingup. Okay. The childhood stuff, things
you're still holding onto.Right. I picked up a lot of stuff
about your dad and yourshoulder. And I said I had to. I
feel like it was a big ball.Right. And so for you, you are seeing
right now how you've worked onyourself and how far you've come,

(01:10:46):
but you still have much moreto accomplish. So when I say that
you had to change yourlifestyle, it's about how you think.
Stop over processing, get outof your head. Trusting from the heart
to the stomach versus tryingto trust through processing in your
head. That's not how we live.The head is going to talk you way

(01:11:09):
out of half the things thatyou need to trust in the heart and
in the solar plexus, thestomach, the portal of emotions.
That's where you have so farto go. No, it's not. And you even
said at one point, I'm broke.And I said, no, you're not. No, you're
not.
That made me so sad.
And I was so.
And I could feel the love fromyou immediately, by the way. I forgot

(01:11:31):
about that until just now thatyou said that. No, I didn't see that
at all. But she was just like,sweetie. And like. Yeah, it made
me want to cry.
Yeah. Because when I look atthat as negative talk, self sabotage
towards self.
Not the first time I've heard that.
Well, when you're saying I am,you're owning it. So now you're in

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there saying, I am broken.You're telling God I am broken. And
God was going to say, well,let me show you what that looks like.
So you're going to break atoe, a foot, an arm. So we don't
want that. Delete, delete,delete. We don't. And so that's why
I shifted it. Oh, no, hold on,babes. Because that's not who you
are, that you are not. And Iwas making it very clear through

(01:12:18):
a loving way and hearingeverything you're saying, how you're
breathing, how you're responding.
I do remember that your third eye.
Getting it to come alive.
It was so fun working withyou. I really enjoyed it.
It was amazing.
And honestly, again, I have torewatch the video, but I had so much

(01:12:38):
more fun watching her work onyou. Anything else you want to share
with us before we close?
Oh, yeah.
What's the biggest thing youwant our listeners to know?
You know, to be open, open tobe receiving that things may sound
a little bit different but canbe very profound as well. As you

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ladies were able to experiencethat. Some of the things that. How
would I know? I never met youbefore until we came together today.
Because I don't want to knowanything about anyone when you come
because I want to show howaccurate and profound this work is.
And if you're struggling,don't continue to struggle. You know,
if you're going through yourtraditional methods of a general

(01:13:24):
practitioner or a homeopathicdoctor or something like that sound,
bowl, healing, breath, work,energy healing. There are, you know,
we are all energy. So to trysomething that you haven't tried
before may be the mostprofound result you get. So opening
up to trying somethingdifferent to try to alleviate yourself

(01:13:47):
out of your torment, yourstruggle, your pain, your resentment,
and know that there areanswers out here, but to be very
open to receive them.
And I want to thank you againfor sharing that very vulnerable
and personal story with all ofus. I think it really helps us understand

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how much adversity you reallyhad to overcome to become who and
what you are today.
Yeah. And everyone can. That'swhy I do love.
That's what I thought aboutwhen you were sharing it. I was like,
I'm so glad she's sharing thisbecause I feel like people need to
know that they can too.
Yes, everyone can. Yeah. But Ihad to dive deep, forgive the man

(01:14:33):
that I thought was the. The myGod, you know, and my granddad was
that person. And to have thosewords spoken, that was soul shattering.
Yeah. And there are people outthere, many, many, many that have
had soul shatteringexperiences and are still living

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with the resentment, the pain,the hurt. And it doesn't have to
be that way.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you. So nice tomeet you and be in your space.
It's beautiful.
Beautiful.
Yes. I'm so glad you came. Ilove this. I love my little sanctuary.
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