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July 28, 2023 • 38 mins

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Prepare to be entertained as we welcome Mikey Walsh, founding member of the Slinging Sammies Fantasy Football league. This guy brings the charm of a seasoned virtual drafter to our banter-filled discussion about rivalries, draft disasters, and unforgettable tales, like Scott's dream of Dave and Dale's Tonka computer challenges. And yes, we do bring up that bottom-dwelling drunk, Travis!

Now, let's talk strategy. Mikey spills some secret sauce on how to master the draft, while we dissect Dale and Brian's talent-crush and their pick of top players. We can't forget about Mikey's Bears, the Tricel umbrellas, and that audacious 'Ain't Going to Suck Itself Nation' team. We stir up memories from last year's draft results, and ponder the impact of expanding keepers from two to three - the suspense is real.

Last but not least, we dig into performances. Mikey puts on his analyst hat, providing a deep-dive into teams like Big Loss and Alabama Slammers. We chew over significant acquisitions like CD Lamb, Lamar Jackson, AJ Dylan, Alvin Kamara, and George Kittle, and speculate on their potential impact. And, don't miss Mikey's take on the Mustang Ranchers' draft strategy and his sneaky method of outbidding Dale for the coveted players. So, gather 'round, fantasy football enthusiasts, this one's a riot!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Slinging Sammies
Fantasy Football podcast.
I'm here, me Chris All.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
No, no, no, Chris, chris, chris, chris, and we have
a special guest Scott.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
we introduce our special guest tonight.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hi.
Well, there is mybrother-in-law, Mikey Walsh.
Glad to have Mikey aboard, andwe actually, before the podcast,
we've been discussing some ofthe rule code proposals and
refining them, so we thank himfor his help.
So welcome Mikey.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Pleasure to be here, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
And this is our fantasy football first.
We've never had Mikey on thispodcast before, so it's a great
opportunity to be here.
Mike, we're so glad you couldbe here with us.
You've been one of our foundingmembers.
How long have you been on this,lee?
30?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
years, Since the second year the league was in
play.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I think I want to remember I might have been the
second year.
You were the original OG rightthe first year.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, I think I was the only original OG.
I think I was the only real OGbecause I replaced the team and
then I think you, mikey, andDave and Dale came in the second
year.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We all came at the same time.
Yeah, wow.
So, mikey, why don't we haveyou here for a couple of moments
?
Just so you guys know, in ourfantasy football draft we
usually have 10 teams.
We hang out in Reno, nevada atthe Grand Sierra.
We hang out around.
Thursday we play golf.
Friday we go to the breweriesand hang out the pool.

(01:27):
Saturday is pool time drafttime.
Mike.
Unfortunately he's gone througha bit of life experiences and
he was quite far away.
Very difficult for him toactually show up for the life of
the draft.
And one of our few virtualdrafters, mike, what is it like
to be a virtual drafter and yourperspective and things that you

(01:47):
have a unique experience withthat you want to be able to
complain about or compliment thepeople in our league.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, when you're drafting virtually, you're
usually a little bit more soberthan the rest of the league.
What I know crazy, there's alittle less nudity than is there
live, apparently.
So there seems to be quite afew delays that take place.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
And what would you actually do with these delays
from.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Usually Chris Me, yeah, chris and Scott playing
grab ass.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
No, I can't deny that .

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's not.
You know, I gotta say it's notChris and I I know the culprit,
but I'm not going to say thename.
So Travis, oh, did I say Travis?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh, I think you said bottom dwelling, bottom dwelling
, drunk I think.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I said monk Calling out people.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
What do you mean?
A lasting robot?
In your experience, who is likeyour, probably most the person
that you have the most rivalrywith?
Oh, scott, easily Scott.
Okay, yeah, scott.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And then probably Doug.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Doug is my brother-in-law, so this is like
a brother-in-law feud.
I like this.
So what brings out the worst?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Chris, when he said he just can't get it up when he
plays Dave, that's what he'ssaying Just can't get it up when
he plays dryling.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Why can't you get that way with me?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Why can't I get it with Dave?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, we just can't get it up because it's
Dave.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's hard to be a rival when you don't win.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
You say he's a bottom dwelling.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Now, Scott, can I talk about Dave?
We're kind of our center offocus right now.
Will you tell me about yourdream of Dave last night?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I had no dreams of Dave.
That's not true.
That is not true.
I did not dream of Dave, so Idid not dream of Dave.
Do you dream of Dave?
No, you told me you had dreamsof Dave.
I did not have a dream of Dave.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, I said I had a thought.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
A thought that's different than a dream.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
At night, when you're in bed.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yes, I'm like oh, I sure hope he's getting to house
for tonight, I sure hope he'sgetting to house for, definitely
getting to house for tonight,poor Dave.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Which Dave are we talking about, by the way?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Both, Both okay.
Thanks, Jer.
I think of every single personin our fanciful league every
night before I go to bed.
It kind of helps me fall asleep.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now, Mikey, what kind of trash.
Would you like to talk to mybrother-in-law, Doug Johnson?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't know.
He trashed me in the playoffsso many times.
It's not even funny, I justfelt like he knocked me out of
the playoffs at least five orsix times.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, you were right.
Who knocked you out last year?

Speaker 2 (04:54):
No, Championship game .
It's hard to remember.
It seems like there was thisfluke thing that happened that
allowed Chris to win.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Which is actually true.
We actually have leagueproposals going out because of
the move that I had.
Now, scott, yes, sir, you'redoing a great job on your side
of the ball Like we go to thisfantasy draft.
We have most of our membersusually there, I think, usually
two to three, maybe sometimes up.

(05:22):
Show up.
What is your perspective on thefantasy draft experience?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
On the fantasy draft experience.
So yeah, we often are in thepool very long.
There's a lot of drinkinginvolved.
That drinking usually meanswe're usually hung over Friday
and that rules in the Saturdayand people start off slow but
they quickly gain steam aroundone o'clock, crazy enough.
And then we all assemble in thein the draft room, Dale brings

(05:53):
his I don't know Tonka, Tonkacomputer, I don't know what it's
called Tonka or Ugo computer.
He's got to figure it out.
He's got to figure out how toget the Wi-Fi with this computer
that doesn't even connect tothe internet.
And then Travis is stumblingaround and Chris just has no
idea what's going on.

(06:14):
He's sitting off in a corner,just got a bastard and and and
they like what's going on?
bitches.
And that's pretty much thedraft experience.
And all of a sudden we go andeverybody gets serious for like
the next two hours sort of, whenwe're not grabbing ass.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
So who actually rings it in during this time, like
actually participates in thedraft and has knowledge about
what they're doing, and who ispretty much two sheets to the
wind Dale.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Even with his Tonka Tonka toy laptop, Dale knows
what's going on.
He's not.
He comes in.
He hasn't drank with us all day.
You'll have a couple beers whenhe's there, but he knows the
most of what's by what's goingon.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
So who?
So you see, dale's kind of likethat secret, like what do you
call it agent out there.
He's the one that's like tryingto say sober, you have a secret
agent I'm babbling here Um lackof better words but like he's
the one that's that going to saysober, he's going to be the one
that's going to have the bestdraft with strategy that is
actually participating in.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I think so.
His draft is.
I mean the draft results kindof show themselves and you know,
there's always work, you knowthat Dale's Dale's.
He's a rookie guy right, hegets the.
He likes the young guys.
So he drops really young allthe time and I mean some years.
It pays off Some years itdoesn't pay off.
I mean it doesn't always pay offgoing that way, but the last

(07:47):
few times he's done it I mean,well, he did Sorry, dale, either
a tangent, but he also had alot of injuries down the stretch
.
So I think Dale's the guy thatthat gets the job done.
I mean, what would Chris?
Let me ask you Hmm, and I wasChristine, mike, the same
question how are you when you'reat the draft?
Are you like someone, dan, orhow do you feel?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, I think because the last few years you guys
have ranked me just about deadlast after the draft.
That tells you a lot about mystudy habits.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, it is kind of a tradition to put you dead last
after the draft because youweren't there.
Well, I would say like usuallyI have enough knowledge to be
able to like put those podcastsand listening to other things
and reading a few things.
But I have a chance.
I feel like I have a good draftidea going into the draft.
However, the weeks worth offestivities tend to degrade my

(08:45):
knowledge of what I'm actuallydoing.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Are you saying we bring you down?
Is that what you're saying,Chris?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yes, okay.
Now I mean I was telling mywife the other day, mike, you
know she was upset about some ofher friends acting childish and
I said it's when you get backtogether with your high school a
certain in this case for highschool friends, for us is color
crime when you get back togetherwith these people, you start to
revert back to that mentalityand unfortunately I'm probably

(09:12):
the biggest lightweight of thewhole group and so that affects
me in a negative way.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Thanks for a great car ride home on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
There's been a couple that have had not great
experience.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Nothing's worse than Vegas.
Nothing's worse than the Vegastrip.
So let's take a look.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Would you look at draft strategies?
I'm just looking at the firstteam that you have listed here
Scott, we're on zoom right nowand he has like the whole roster
is lifted.
I'm just gonna go by what I seenumber one, I see San Francisco
fourth and Niners, mike.
What do you think?
The draft strategies of thisteam Obviously hold on to
Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's the thing.
Figuring out his keepers isgoing to be pretty easy.
I don't see much to reallyworry about.
I imagine he's going to keepJames Conner.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, he's gonna see you through, if you're at three,
or maybe that person just goeswith two.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, it may just be those two.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I think your roster sucks, Chris.
I don't know how the fuck youwon the championship last year.
That's how I'm gonna go onrecord.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, you don't gotta be good, you gotta be lucky.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Sometimes you need Lamar Hamlin to win the
championship last year.
I don't know how you did it.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So, in general, Mike, how does this team draft over
the years?
Good, bad or sad?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Who you?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, Well you're asking me Little road on average
, huh, middle of the road.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Middle of the road.
Okay, scott, how do?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
you feel about that team, your team.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, Over the years.
How do I?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
draft.
Oh, you've been a paper tigerat least a few years You've been
on.
You've been good on paper, sowe'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Now we look at the second team.
I see over here the ChaitoneBrawlers, which happens to be
Mikey's team.
Right there, Mikey, how do youfeel like you do in the draft?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I always have money left over.
I'm not great aboutcapitalizing my spending because
I'm usually too gun shy to goafter the big-dollar players.
And why is that?
If you go and look at my pastrosters, I don't think I've got
maybe more than one or two yearswhere I've spent more than $40

(11:41):
on a player.
When you see some of these guys, I remember years that Emmett
Smith was going for like $70 orsomething like that.
It was just insane what peoplewere spending on a single player
.
I've never been that way, soI'd rather have the variety and
people I can plug in when aninjury happens than going for

(12:01):
that one guy that's going to bepretty much a lock to score a
bunch of points than it's goingto drain the rest of your roster
from quality and do you feelthat this is a good draft
strategy?
I don't know, I've only won once.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's not good or bad, it's just a pity.
Maybe not Sometimes you justget bad luck and there's that.
You know there's good luck andobviously last year I don't feel
like I had the best team in theleague, but I actually got
lucky.
That's what it runs down to,but do you feel like you
strategize well in a draft?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, let me put it this way.
I distinctly remember a yearwhere I went big on Michael Vick
and the day we drafted he brokehis leg in the preseason game
and was gone for the.
It made me gun shy for the restof my drafts, I'll put it that
way.
So it draft time is stressfulfor me because I never know how

(12:57):
to properly spend.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Do you think it'd be helpful to be three sheets in
the wind, like most of people inthe draft that are doing it?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It probably would help to lower my inhibitions a
bit, Just say fuck it, go for it.
How?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
do you feel about?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Michael.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Vick, you say Chris Fortune favors the bull.
That is what you're trying tosay.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yes, definitely can.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
So, scott, how do you feel about the Tricel umbrellas
and their drafts over the year?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Ah no, I think Mike has always sold a draft.
I mean sometimes Mike isfighting against that proclivity
to draft the Bears, but I meanthat's also hard because it's
like your favorite team and youkind of want to have players
from your favorite team that youcan root for.
But sometimes that's also adouble-edged sword.
So we always like to give Mikea little good ribbing when he

(13:46):
selects some Chicago Bears.
Same thing with the Duggee andthe Philly, and if you and Dave
draft any 49ers.
So but I think Mike is alwayssolid and I think he actually
had pretty good drafts last year.
So I mean, just you know theplayers are good there, awesome
awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I think same.
I think Mike is a solid drafter.
He usually has a good game planand comes in.
And I would say the onlynegative I think Mike alluded to
it you end up.
When you end up having moremoney in the draft than you
should at the end that means youprobably went gun-chide a few
people that you probably couldhave had.
That may have improved yourchances.

(14:23):
That would be my only critique.
But otherwise Mike usually hasa solid draft and has good
players.
I usually am more of aproponent of Mike's team Scott
usually I think it's you that'sa little more negative on his
team over the years.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's a hate.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
At the beginning.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
He was going to hate.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
So let's take a look at it.
It ain't going to suck itselfnation.
What do you guys think abouthis teams?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
So OK.
So how much?
How much reference do we got?
We got.
So I think you said his namebecause I think we consistently
rate it ain't going to suckitself nation.
You think it has no knowledgeof football, but he seems to
pull out of always a good draftand I think he always.

(15:09):
So I mentioned we talked aboutwho's the best.
I think actually Dale and Ithink probably Brian is probably
the other good drafter and Idon't know how to be honest with
you, how the fuck he does it.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
So well, you look at his reserve.
Right now he's got Brian.
You could be a keeper.
But, he's got $8.
He's got out down in Madison atsix bucks for next year.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, and either this is the draft results, right,
this is the draft.
So because if we were talkingabout draft, just look at the
draft results.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, and usually his team comes.
He's usually got the two of thetop three keepers every year, I
mean, and in reality that putshim in number one spot before
going into the draft so everyyear.
So from that perspective hedoes a really good job draft.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, because he started with the top five.
I receiver top three, tied intop two maybe.
And Jay says didn't pan out.
But, yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Mikey, what do you think about any second self
nation?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I mean I would have loved to have Tony Pollard last
year.
So I mean that guy like thatwas an absolute steal.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, it's going to be more of a steal next year.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, seriously, yeah , I think it's.
He's always putting up qualitydrafts, so I can't complain too
much about his strategy.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I don't see any bad picks there.
Like I mean, I can't rememberwhat we said after the draft,
but there was like there'slooking and reflecting and
there's nothing that's bad.
I mean, yeah, of course.
Yeah, Matthew Stathford still agood pick, but $3.00.
And of course he had a downyear and he got hurt, but he
still got Dak Prescott asanother guy.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So yeah, and going into the draft, Going into the
draft when you got Dak SikwonBarkley, I mean Marquis Brown,
stefan Diggs, I mean he's gotloaded talent on there from last
year.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
They might not have all performed as you said, but
going into it he looked prettystacked.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well, you look at keeper leagues like could we get
to keep three people in eachleague?
I'm going to be struggling tofind three where he's going to
be struggling to find who am I,who am I going to have to cut?
That's a good problem to havebut it's not what I have.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I hate that problem.
No, it's a good problem to have.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's a good problem to have, so bringing the San
Harbor Boilermakers?
How does San?
I think, scott, you kind ofgave your opinion on this.
This is Dale Straff.
He's one of our top drafters,oh yeah, dale, always he goes
young.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
He used to go felons, but then he switched to
strategy and I think that wasprobably a good strategy shift.
He switched from felons to theguys that are young.
So he I mean look at, look atthis In pre-Saw, uh ê±° nursing uh
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Did he get the record year?

(17:57):
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So I keep the guy got shot andstill put up good numbers.

(18:17):
Child large here.
I think it's still going to bea good player, potentially.
My God, I'm going to say BrownSame brown as a stud, yeah.
Yeah, jaylen Wild for 10 bucks.
Wow, that's a good deal.
Everything he was got more $2.
Still great, because there's hedoesn't have much competition.

(18:38):
Tony gets hurt like every fiveminutes.
So my God, I mean he had thisis to me like he had one of the
most perfect drafts.
I think if this draft makes youwant to cry, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
So we'll have to go back to it in our next podcast.
But, like you know, keepingthree players from that list is
going to be very difficult forhim because he can only be free
Good, good.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Now bring this to our next year, which is the nap of
prime.
My other brother, well, fromthe other side of the family,
how do you think he drafts?
Good question, let's take thisone.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I, you know.
Well, that's the step back.
I mean, how do we all drafts,right, you, you, it's like the
Mike Tyson code, right you all?
Everybody has a good plan untilthey get punched in the mouth,
and that's basically what it isfor oxygen drafts.
I mean, that's you.
You may have a plan like oh, Ihave this guy, this value, I
really like this guy, he's goingto be on my list.
But things start flying and youknow, you just don't know where

(19:43):
it's going to go.
It's like okay, oh, I thought Icould get this guy for like $5.
Next thing is at $25.
And then you have the wholething with like oh well, I got
to, I don't have a running back,but this guy's at 50 and I got
to get somebody.
That's really good.
So just a step back for asecond.
When they have a prime, likeyou have to, it's something you

(20:04):
constantly have to think about.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Well, I think you know, and kind of piggyback on
what you're saying, I think thatprime is the opposite of Mikey
here, where he goes big on a lotof players and then kind of
scrambles to find tail endplayers in the reserve category.
So you know, you look atChristian McCaffey at 63, which
is you could probably be withnumber one pick in snake draft
next year.

(20:26):
Nick Chubb 36 cam acres.
Well, the last 10.
That's not so big deal.
Mike Evans 40 bucks.
Now, he's not afraid to spendthe big money on the big players
.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I mean it's put 140 bucks into two running backs and
a wide receiver.
That doesn't leave a lot ofmoney left to fill out the rest
of your roster.
But if those are your primaryscores it may work.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
And you got Travis Kelsey too.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, and I would say just say see, Santa Rosa
Shankers.
I mean it's basically the samedraft philosophy, so go go big
or go home, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
And that can work and we've seen it work and it's
also failed miserably whenpeople get hurt.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
So you think I have a great draft.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I mean, I guess what's the name of the game,
though?
Is you want to win or not,right?
Yeah, it just doesn't leave youwith a lot of first losers.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
It just doesn't leave you with a lot of keepers,
unless you happen to strike goldwith some of your $1 players.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, when you have keeper leagues, when you look at
like Dale's team, kind of theoffice strategy, mike he's team
you guys got you'll possibly forgreat keepers, but Napa, prime
and you're talking about Dale,dave Monk as well, those guys
are sorry.
Travis actually does too.
Go big or go home.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Don't tell me Dale's draft.
Every time I look at it I justwant to weave.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
And we look at the Philly Pass attack.
What do you guys think aboutthe Philly Pass attack?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Too many Eagles.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
So basically his downfall is picking Community
Eagles.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, because Eagles are pretty good, so that's
probably not a good, at leastright now.
They're pretty good, so that'snot a downfall.
But yeah, pretty balanced.
I mean right, no, we got wedidn't big a loss in Eckler 60
bucks, but you're going to get atop running back.
I mean you got to do that.
He had no running backs goingin.
He had a tight and quarterbackwide receiver, which is a little
bit of an odd combination ofkeepers.
Normally people try to keeprunning backs, but you know he

(22:21):
spent big there but he didn't gotoo bad the rest of the way.
But again, I'm like Mikey's inthe last thing.
You know it's almost $120 onthree players Eckler, higgins
and Pittman.
So he didn't have a lot of leftover after that.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
So he's a go big or go home kind of player too.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, it's probably why he didn't.
He didn't make playoffs.
No, did he make a plus?
I don't know.
He did.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
And what do you think , mikey, about that team?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, he had some good carryover guys like CD lamb
.
But again it looks to me likeyou put his entire draft and
Eckler and I don't know, I don'thave the guts to do something
like that.
So some years it'll pay off,some years it'll blow up in your
face.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah that's very, very actually correct, I must
say All right, so scrolls downto what you have next Slammers.
What about the Alabama Slammers?
So also at Mikey's turn, thisis what I'll.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, here we go, Mikey.
I can't see his roster, sothat's going to be hard, oh
sorry, so you would be withKamara at $50, debo Sanel at $41
.
Those were his big acquisitions.
And then you know everythingelse.
You kept Stevenson, javante,williams, who got hurt, mike
Williams he apparently likesWilliams, apparently, so he

(23:44):
spent money.
He spent some money, but youknow, I mean injury bug sucks.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Debo.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Sanel was hurt.
You got an ACL.
Did Michael Williams play thewhole season last year for the
Chargers?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I thought he'd get hurt a little bit, but he
started out hot and he got it,cool, I think, if I remember
right.
So he spent $91 on two players.
That was kind of tough.
You know, he's uh, the Slammershave been playing a little bit
from behind because they'vestruggled with some keepers.
This year it seemed like theyhad a really good set of keepers
.
I mean you put Stevenson andWilliams.

(24:21):
I mean those are two of theguys that people thought, oh,
these guys are going to be studs, and Stevenson has been killer
for him.
Unfortunately, williams gotJavante, williams got hurt.
So I think for him he was like,hey, let's put some pieces
around this.
You know, let's get Kittle tiedin.
That's pretty good.
Just talking about four bucks.
You don't go back kickers.

(24:41):
That's a steal for $4.
You got them.
Or Jackson, unfortunately yougot hurt.
But so I think I think David agreat chance to kind of come
back to the fold because he'sbeen kind of having struggling
with keepers and then Daverebugging him.
Unfortunately my mouse mighttake.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm never going to fall to ride with a kicker that
can hit 55 plus yarders anytimehe wants.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
With a narrow goalpost.
With a narrow, you can put itlike five meters, he's still
probably hit it.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Chris?
What do you think about?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I feel like this is the bad luck team, what there is
a lot of.
Well, let's maybe a case pointlike AJ Dylan.
Aj Dylan right now may not looklike a sexy pick.
Dave got him at $14 last yearAt the beginning of the draft.
He was looking like he wasgoing to take over the number

(25:42):
one spot in Green Bay and he waslike the big buzz guy of the
year.
Didn't pan out.
Alvin Kamara me a bit of astretch at $58, but if that guy
was going to get a good to go Iknow he's had legal problems at
the beginning of the year If hewas to perform at the level that
he was doing, he would havebeen one of the top 10 running

(26:02):
backs.
Last year Didn't happen.
Romney Stevenson same thing.
The guy was a stud but he hassome great games but he's in New
England and so there was someunlucky there.
I guess you could say and lookat George Kittle, deepo Samuel
Both of those guys had like offyears last year.

(26:24):
I would say for what they'regoing to be able to do this year
, I would expect that both thoseplayers are going to be a
little bit better than they werelast year, but it just seemed
like everybody that he had LamarJackson as well.
Those guys are all hadregression last year.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, you look at the same, the one that had a lot of
upside in the year.
It'll be interesting to see ifLamar actually bounces back now
that he's done with his contractand negotiations.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, it really will.
What brings us to our next team, which is the Mustang Ranchers.
What?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, fuck that guy.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, that guy's terrible.
What is your idea of this guy'sdraft strategy?
Does he have one?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
He's pretty much read every piece of information
there is and usually over-thinksthe draft.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
He's a classical thinker, right.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yep, but he also gets a number of guys that are
steals that none of us have everheard of.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yes, Romeo Dove, baby Romeo Dove.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I would say this guy really doesn't have much of a
plan.
You look at his roster.
I feel like he's just got luckyat best.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
When it happens every year, it's not luck, Chris.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, no, it's just pure luck.
He's just one of the luckypeople in the world.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Why the fuck did I drop Justin Fields?
I still don't know why I hadhim for a fucking dollar.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And I thank you for it.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I'm like I got whatever, whatever I had.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Joe Burroughs, like I don't need Justin Fields.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Come on, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Why the hell did I drop Pacheco?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Actually, I went to the draft.
I didn't have a quarterback, soI had Fields in car.
I can't do this and that'sright.
At the draft, I traded TravisAdam Thielen for Joe Burroughs,
which is ridiculous, so that'swhy I felt confident in dropping
him.
So but you're right, Mikey,Mikey's actually right.
I do overthink things a lot, Alot.

(28:35):
There's a lot of roster baitingthat draft verbating, that goes
on.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
So God's doing calculus every year.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
But my general strategy is not to go big and I
went big this year in runningbacks.
That's not my general way to go.
Maybe occasionally, maybe onceit would be three or four years,
but then not intend to go inthe draft, spending $100 and
doing mixed in the nods ofHarris.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well, in all honesty, I actually do think that you
have some of the best draftstrategies going in.
You know probably the mostanybody in the draft about each
of the players, possibilities ofthem being good, and you know
how to roll dice on whichplayers to go.
But a lot of times when I'mactually because we do an
auction draft, a lot of timesthe players that I'm actually
trying to bid to get Scott,you're usually the person in my

(29:18):
competition for I love gettinghis leftovers.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, competitions.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'm very competition about the players that you pick,
but you generally have a greatstrategy.
You know what you're doing, butI would agree with Mikey,
sometimes you just overthink it.
Now, sometimes I think you'reactually looking at me, looking
at other people in the draft andtrying to bid up players,
knowing that we want them.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Oh yeah, I do that all the time, and then you get
stuck with some salaries that Ithink you don't want.
I didn't get stuck this year.
I really didn't.
Well, maybe nod your hair so Iwasn't crazy about everybody
that I had on there.
I actually okay, okay, movingin, feeling it in one Okay,
you're 100% correct, I want toDK back.

(30:06):
I wanted, I was going to getthe kid back up, no matter what
it was, and I was validated forthat big, so you know, you know,
you know you play, you know howto draft and you do a solid job
every year.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
And I got my Romeo dubs.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
And you got your Christian Watson.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
No some of the other guys got him.
Right yeah, I see him right onyour roster right now.
Oh, I picked him up at somepoint.
He got dropped or I don't knowwhat happened, but I really
wanted to dobs because he was aNevada player.
So Shankers, shankers, what dowe think about the Shankers?
See, now for prime.
He goes big, so we all know.

(30:50):
So Mikey never sees this, butthe husband knows he happened
the last year or two.
But Shankers Travis has alwaysbeen proud of the fact that he
goes big, gets big.
At the very start, I think hewas lays on his bed and picks a
few players here and there at $1.
So that's kind of the strategyfor the Shankers.

(31:10):
But so he went big on Henry andJones and wow, and Kaden Allen.
He actually had a decent lookat draft.
I mean, he started off thesolid, tight end, shaky wide
receiver and Joe Borough, whichhe traded to me, thank you.
But he usually goes bigger, gohome.
He's the epitome of go bigger,go home, in my opinion.

(31:31):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Mikey, have you even met Travis yet?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I don't think so either, but judging from your at
home virtual drafting, what doyou know about his drafts?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Well, like Scott said , he goes big early, but I
didn't realize.
He then checks out for the nexthour and a half, oh yeah check
out that but yeah.
I believe someone is going togo, spend a lot of money to try
and get those marquee players.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
So what do you think of the North cow wines in there
now?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
So North cow is probably the most Jekyll high
team in this league.
I think he's finished last acouple of times and I think he's
finished first a couple oftimes.
I think it's like but ifthere's no Leslie boom or bust,
you look at who he selected, whohe went big on Devonte Adams,
tyree Kill I think we'd allagree.

(32:33):
Those are probably, at least infootball, top five receivers.
Those guys are studs.
That's where he spent the mostof his money and we also went to
the PPR league, so that kind ofbodes well for him there as
well too.
And he went scary Terry as well, too.
Scary Terry McLaren, who justit's just bad quarterbacks.
That has that.
That's kind of plagued him.

(32:53):
But he's got a pretty goodbalance approach.
I don't know if he's intendingto do it because, like the rest
of us, he's using pretty threesheets of the wind, but pretty
balanced guys that he got.
I don't know.
Sometimes I want to crawl inthe mind of Dave Monk, sometimes
I don't.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well, you know, at being his wayman during the
fantasy football draft, is oneof the few single people there.
I try to help him out withthese things and come up with
things like hey, some girlscouldn't remember his name, I
just remember Dushy Dave, andthat's the best I can come up
with for Dave.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know what?
I've never heard you say thatbefore.
Yeah, I've heard that before.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, basically I'm the opposite of what you want
for a weekend.
Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I thought, you were married.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'm married, but like trying to help him out, like
get the girls, and my way ofhelping him out is to have them
remember that his name is DushyDave, which he's not.
He's a great guy and I justhappen to be the best we love
Monk, we love Monk.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Monk is sometimes a batter ram and so some of the
things that we're too inhibitedto do, inhibited, inhibited,
inhibited.
Whatever to do, he kind of justbreaks through like I remember
a couple of times at the countrybar I remember we got yelled at
by that old guy.
He's gonna get yelled at by theold guy or he's getting the

(34:22):
cops are coming because he'smolesting a robot, or you know.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
A few guys.
That's actually been thrown outof the casino a few times.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
That makes for a great story.
So thank you, monk.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
GSR is so touchy about who gets to molest a robot
.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
The worst part.
He wasn't the only one doing it, though.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
He was the driving was not molesting.
The problem with Dave the drylane is that he looks like he's
guilty.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
And he did nothing.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
He did nothing.
He did nothing.
By the way, he wanted to leaveMonk, but I said, no, we can't
leave Monk.
That story may or may not betrue, but no, he was like, yeah,
you know, we only need one,dave, in this league.
So you know.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
He was trying to get other people in and he was like
I guess it was, but you're a cow.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
You're a cow.
I don't know, maybe I need tolook at the records, but he's
not a boomer or bus guy, buthe's somehow some way.
You know he falls into somegood players.
Those are good players on hisroster Air Rogers, yucu.
Khalil Herbert actually hasbeen pretty solid, even

(35:40):
Datsunapalmer.
I think Dave, I think Monk issecretly doing research and he's
not telling us and he feelslike he's ah, whatever, this is
a guy that drafted.
I think he's like Transformers.
He's more than UCI.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
No, I agree, the guy's incredibly intelligent,
but he's probably the mostsingle guy there that's how you
describe it and the draft is funfor him, but at the same time,
I think he's also one of theheavier gamblers there him and
Travis and so I think theirpriority might be there.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah.
I think, so that's not a badthing.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
We covered everybody yeah we got them all, Wow.
Draft strategies for the Sling,Samys if I can speak, Sling and
Samys.
Fnatic football Lee, we've gonethrough every team.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's incredible.
So I think the next podcast youalready know.
I think we'll dive deep intothe existing rosters and we'll
try to talk about which playerevery team is going to keep.
And I think it's a great idea,chris, we'll throw the podcast
thing out there with everybodyelse.
If anybody else wants to join,you're more than welcome.

(36:58):
I should also say that now thatwe've kind of refined the rule
codes, I will send them outtomorrow.
Now that Chris is not going tobe me nobber, I will send them
out and yeah, frowny face andbasically give people to like
the third or the fourth,whatever.
We'll pick a date to vote andthen we'll go from there.

(37:21):
That was a good plan.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
All right, mikey, I want to thank you so much for
being on our podcast.
Scott, thank you as always.
You're an amazing podcastperson and partner.
We're going to sign off hereand just want to say thank you
and hopefully you too, have agreat weekend and everybody
listening all three of you Lastthoughts?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
What, yeah, last thoughts.
I want to be blessed and Iwon't deny.
There you go.
Who's the last?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
thought oh no, no, we're going to have a last one.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Mikey, can you just any way you can salvage this
show?
No, just end it.
All right, that's the end ofour podcast.
Thank you, everybody, peace out.
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