July 23, 2024 • 43 mins
Ever wondered how your first concert experience shaped your musical tastes and memories? Join us as Amber reminisces about her childhood adventure at a Crisscross concert at Great America, where she even wore her clothes backward in true Crisscross fashion. Misty follows with her exhilarating yet squishy experience of pushing to the front at a New Kids on the Block concert at Warner's Theater in Fresno, California. Together, we explore how these early concerts influenced the people we're drawn to and sparked epiphanies about our past and present selves.
We then take a hilarious journey through the fashion and beauty trends of our youth. From the baggy jeans and platform shoes to the quirky habit of using Crisco for tanning, we share laughs over our past fashion faux pas and the unexpected sources of our fandoms. Whether it's a unique attraction to diverse ethnic backgrounds or a long-standing loyalty to the Raiders, we reflect on how these youthful choices have left a lasting impact on us today.
Lastly, we tackle the evolution of high school reunions in the age of social media and the dynamics of modern relationships and parenting. Hear our personal anecdotes about the challenges of organizing reunions, maintaining friendships through significant life changes, and the value of spontaneous visits. We wrap up by sharing our first job experiences, the lessons learned, and the impact of wage inflation on today's youth, encouraging everyone to stay engaged and connected.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back listeners.
This is small town, big mouthspodcast and this is amber here,
one and only hey everyone, weare glad to have you here, and
this is misty aka dolce.
So today we're gonna start uh.
I can't even talk, that's whyamber has a buzz.
We are gonna start off talkingabout Um our first concert.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, we thought we'd do like a little nostalgic
episode, because it's really funto kind of reminisce on past
times.
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Cheers.
So my first I'm going to saythat I could remember was a
crisscross concert.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And tell wait first of all who got the tickets.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't, even, I don't, even, I can't even tell
you who I went with.
It was at great america.
Um, great, I grew up in the bayarea, so having, uh, going to
great america was like a ritual,you know.
You just went there everysummer because that's what there
was to do.
Um, but I remember even beingin elementary school when they
were popular, and wearing myclothes backwards because I
(01:03):
thought it was like cool.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Wait, you really did that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I did, like you, my overalls, my overalls.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh, so you wore the square part in the back, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh my God, how embarrassing right.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I had you everyone.
Okay, this is like a little kid.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It is a little kid, and I think one of them died by
now.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh, my God, look how little.
Yeah, you guys, you have toYouTube him if you don't know
who Chris Cross is, but everyoneknows this song.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's got a good beat?
Yeah, so that was my firstconcert.
I can't tell you who I wentwith, who took me?
Um, yeah, because you can drivethat song came out in 92, so I
was only eight years old sothat's a young to go to a
concert like that.
But they were all little kids,yeah it had to have been,
because look how young they were, so, um, but I just remember, I
(02:01):
like, I really like them, andthen they just like, fell off
the planet.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
But I'm older than you, obviously, and in 92, there
was grown-ass men pumping thatshit.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, did you hear the beat?
I know the beat.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was a good beat it was.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I just can't get over you wearing your clothes
backwards Only a few times, Ithink, I don't know Did other
kids in the school grounds havethat.
Yeah, Okay, and the teachersthey allowed it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
They didn't even get in trouble.
Have to go change your clothes?
No, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, come on, think about it, In the 90s
things were a lot easiercompared to what they are today.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
In school, I think that's so funny.
Yeah Well, my first.
I mean not even like.
It's kind of the same, likerealm of yours, it's like new
kids on the block.
Nkotb, you know me, oh my God.
And it was at a small venue inFresno, California, called
(03:00):
Warner's Theater, and I was like12.
And oh gosh, like you know, I'mlike you.
I don't remember who I wentwith, I'm sure my middle school
friends, because I'm just 12,right.
So sixth or seventh grade,probably the sixth grade summer,
I think that's what I'm feeling, although I don't remember
everything, but I do rememberand I still do that to this day.
(03:21):
I, I want to be at the front.
I want to be at the front.
You know what I mean, right?
So I pushed my way to the frontand that was like miserable,
everybody's doing that.
And they were up and comingLike new kids on the block.
They blew up and I hadeverybody pushing me, pushing me
, and I was like one of thoselittle kids that couldn't
breathe, like.
(03:41):
I was getting squished you knowwhat I mean At the, at the iron
gate, like iron gate, and I wasgetting squished at it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well now kids, with that happens, you know they're
like falling to the ground andfainting.
We were built a lot tougherback then.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I believe.
So I don't think it caused atrend for me, though, like it
did cause for me to like or like, like or to like think a
certain type of guy was cute,though, because then I kind of
had a thing for like you knowboy bands kind of, after that,
like that boy band, look yeah,yeah, I don't know.
(04:18):
I mean so wait after crisscross, because you liked them, you
wanted to go.
Yeah, did you go back to schooland did you like, look at
little boys, like, did you havea thing like for?
Like like the war overalls?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
um no, I don't, I don't think so.
Um, I mean, I liked, I'vealways liked boys so I was a
little boy crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was crazy too, yeah yeah, yeah, because sometimes I
feel like music, I at leastthis is for me.
Okay, this is, this is how weget epiphanies, even at this age
of life.
Like music spawns me to like acertain type of guy Cause, then
I went through a phase where Iliked to push mode and the cure
and then I liked those type ofguys, you know, creep, and then
(05:02):
I liked those type of guys, youknow creepers and docs and just
like dark, like a little more, Iguess what people would call
emo.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, that's never beenmy type.
I either liked white guys,mexican guys, and then my
husband was mixed black whiteand Mexican, so I got.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh yeah, he was all three.
Yeah, oh, my gosh, yeah Ididn't know that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So good-looking guy, yeah, very handsome.
I've seen the photos.
Thank you, thank you, but yeah,I've never really went for like
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Did he have all the best parts of those three?
He did.
I mean, I just got thinkingright now.
He had the charisma.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He had the charisma too, the nice Charisma.
He had the charisma to the nicesmile never no braces, which is
weird because both my kids arein braces and neither one of us
have had them.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So let me ask you this, because we're going back
in time and I know one of yourthings and with your husband,
you, you like the Raiders, youlike that, that jam Raider
nation.
So so back in time, did youalways like the Raiders?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, it's so weird.
So the other day I don't knowif you saw it I posted on
Instagram a picture.
Somebody was like oh, post apicture from you know, back in
the days I found one of me whenI was probably about 14.
I had a Raiders jersey on.
I don't know how I became aRaiders fan because I've been
one since I was younger.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
How in the hell did you find a photo nowadays?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think it's something.
I don't know where I found thisphoto, but I knew I had one of
me as a young girl in this photo, so I knew where to look.
Yeah, but yeah, even like myfirst boyfriend.
My first real boyfriend was a49er fan.
I grew up in a 49er household.
I don't know how I became aRaider fan.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Wait, that's weird.
And then I married one.
Yeah, because usually there'slike a grandpa or an uncle,
somebody, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, I remember even making my grandma.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Probably you like the colors.
That seems like a lot of peopleyou know whoops.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I even made my grandma like a 49er pillow for
Christmas one year because I wasin sewing class.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Everybody was Niner fans in my household.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean because I you know, I'm not a Raiders fan, I'm
a Niner fan, but they got greatcolors yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I mean, I like wearing black yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I give you that , so maybe Interesting, yeah,
and I mean I was kind of like alittle thuggish.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I had like a little bit of thugg, you think, like
red is you know what I mean?
Like I don't know.
I don't know how I became aRaiders fan.
I'd like to know though.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You'd like to rewind the wheels in?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
the head.
Yeah, sometimes, if you couldremember everything.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So I know like so Amber and I were kind of
reminiscing about our youth andold times and we were talking
about going back like firstconcerts, everything we're
talking about.
And then we thought, okay,fashion, since we are talking
about the colors and stuff.
So she was looking up, she'slike, oh my gosh, you remember
this.
So we want to talk about someof the fashion maybe faux paws
(07:56):
that we've had, because I am sodying to hear because you're
about.
She's like 10 years youngerthan me, so you're a little
different generation, right?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
so I mean for me it was like baggy jeans um platform
shoes.
I remember wearing like dickyoveralls or dicky pants um like
a choker.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I wore chokers, yeah yeah, chokers um maroon dark
wore white lipstick I used towear white eyeliner okay, yes,
on the inside too, it's supposedto pop your eyes, yeah I've
seen that for nowadays, but likeI used to wear it on the top.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I don't know.
I wish I could find a pictureof me like that, because what
the fuck was I doing wearingwhite eyeliner?
And how did I even know thatwas like a thing I don't?
Was that a thing back then?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
uh, was white lipstick a thing back then?
I've never seen white lipstick.
I wore white lipstick becauseit made you look tanner.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh my God, we had the worst tans.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh my God, we would go on the roof with Crisco and I
emphasize Mouth dropped on thatone.
What the hell?
We would sunbathe on the roof,literally.
We would put lawn chairs upthere.
We'd get a ladder and this ismiddle school.
We'd go up there, put our lawnchairs down, we'd rub Crisco on
us.
And then do you guys rememberour audience?
(09:18):
Some of you guys will rememberAmber, probably won't, but
three's company yeah, it's ashow.
Okay, yeah, it's a show.
Yeah, she's like.
My mom watched it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Suzanne.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Somers had this tinfoil thing that she made and
she sunbathed with the tinfoilthing like under her chin.
You took cardboard and youbasically wrapped it in tinfoil
because it reflected.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Or a magazine.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, because the tinfoil oh, you put the tinfoil
on the magazine.
Yeah, because it bends, youknow Exactly.
And then the sun reflected, andso you, supposedly you didn't
get a better tan, you basicallygot skin cancer.
Is what you got, yeah, so don'tyou?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
hate that like when you're tanning today and then
you're like you're out in thesun all day and then all of a
sudden, like your neck and partof your chest is white, because
your face, or you know if you'relaying out a certain way, well,
no, what I hate today, amber,is that I did that shit to
myself and I go holy crap, lookat all my wrinkles are coming
out now.
Well, at least nowadays,there's things that we can do to
(10:19):
help with those.
Yeah, I agree, and I will do ithey if it works and you can
afford it, and why?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
not yeah, whatever makes you feel better.
So platform shoes.
When you say platform, whatkind of shoes?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I remember white leather shoes and they probably
had a three-inch platform.
They were just like a sneakerfrom Payless Shoe Stores.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Payless Shoe Stores.
Yes, I wore winos.
They were black canvas with atan bottom.
Oh my gosh, they were calledwinos.
That were black canvas with atan bottom oh my gosh, they were
called winos.
That's funny.
You probably never heard ofthem.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I've never even heard .
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm like, I'm going to have to look that up.
I actually Googled them onetime.
It was like a big era with theCure, depeche Mode, abc.
Oh my gosh, all of these bands,what about?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
let's punk.
What about um beanie babies?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I I bought one for my daughter amber probably owned
several.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Um, I've never been into them.
I mean, I think I have somelike random ones, nothing like
encased or anything like that.
But, um, my, my youngest mayawould like.
She likes them, and so likewhen she was younger my friend
had a whole bunch and she waslike here so, and then they were
like Christmas ones or whatever, so like they're in my
Christmas stuff and so like atChristmas time I'll put one out
(11:40):
or something, yeah, but theyused to have them.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
My daughter she was born Christmas 1998.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And so I bought her the Christmas one and I encased
it.
Yeah, I encased it.
Yeah, I have it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I got to give it to her.
I wonder if it's worth anythingI know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I don't want her to sell it.
People were going crazy overthose.
No, like mania.
Yeah, I remember, I was likedoes it have the tie tag?
If it's not real, does it havea tie tag?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, you could get them in your Happy Meals when
they were $1.99.
I mean, don't know, because Idon't buy happy meals, but they
still have happy meals.
Yeah, okay, with toys.
I mean they're probably nottoys like they did back in the
days, because a beanie baby's agood toy.
Yeah, remember people used togo get happy meals and they'd
(12:22):
have all these collectormcdonald's toys, yeah, oh my god
, that shit's probably so worthsomething now yeah, probably I
mean, but who would have thatstuff?
Still, I mean mean hoarders.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you know what Well, you remember.
Okay, what was that movie?
40-year-old Virgin yes, do youremember?
He was a hoarder of all of histoys.
And then he met that reallycool girl and she did eBay stuff
and she's like, oh my God,you're sitting on a landmine.
And sure enough he was like amillionaire.
He ended up selling.
She helped him to sell all ofhis stuff and he was.
(12:53):
He became cool because he wasnerdy guy, remember, never had
sex or anything.
And then he became cool.
And you know what that is sotrue.
Ever have you been to a highschool reunion?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
No, so I went to a school in Fremont for my ninth
and 10th grade.
I met a guy that lived in SanJose and I started ditching
school the second half of 10thgrade and then, like the last
quarter, I just like stoppedgoing to school and then I
finally moved back to San Josewith my mom because I kept
(13:26):
running away.
And then I ended up going to acontinuation school for my
junior senior year because Ididn't have enough credits.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Um, and that's okay If you guys haven't listened to
our previous episode.
Carly said what would you tellyourself?
And she said don't have aboyfriend in high school.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes, absolutely, um.
And what's what's even weirdtoday?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
because here I am, 25 years later today, because here
I am 25 years later.
Um, that guy's sister is mybest friend today, oh my gosh,
yeah.
So so wait, do you see?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
him, I do.
Oh yeah, I do.
He has uh two kids.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He's on his second marriage um when you see him, is
there like any spark?
No, okay, I'm just wondering no, no, we're way.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I mean we're way past that.
Um, obviously, like I've beenmarried and everything too.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
No, I know what my high school.
He's on my facebook like I knowmy high school and no interest
whatsoever.
Like I've got such a differenttype now.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah yeah, he's definitely not my type, isn't
that crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
and you were so into him that you were ditching
school girl.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He was the love of my life.
You thought you were marryinghim.
Yes, I mean, it's crazy,because their mom is my second
mom.
She says this is my daughterand then I call her mama.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's so crazy.
It's crazy, that is cool thatyou still have all that
relationship though.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, definitely.
I mean I'm glad that thingsdidn't end bad with us, like
life happens.
But yeah, I mean I'm gratefuland plus, everything I've been
through has taught me and it ledme to my husband.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, yeah, I do definitely believe everything
happens for a reason.
The reason too I was asking ifyou'd ever been to a high school
reunion.
Because, back to the nerdything, I have been, and it's so
crazy because that is very truethe nerds are the hot guys, oh
my god they are, and the guysthat were the athletes, and like
the cool dudes, they're fat andbald I was gonna say fat or
(15:27):
bald, you know, and I know baldyou can't help right you know,
and I know bald you can't help,right yeah.
You know your genetics.
Yeah, if you're fitness you can, but just that it's.
It sounds so cliche, but it wasreal Like for our high school.
There's very few and I don'twant to put them all out, cause
gosh, I have a ton on myFacebook and they probably
listen.
Sorry, boys, but um, I don'twant to put them all out because
(15:49):
some I'm highly impressed LikeI see them and I'm like, oh my
God, like he's really maintainedor you know.
But the nerdy ones, theysurprise you because they kind
of fill out.
You know, yeah, they grow up,they grow up.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
They're late bloomers .
Speaker 2 (16:03):
They're late bloomers .
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, I kind of wish that.
I mean, I have friends fromhigh school that I did go to
like a regular high school withon my social media, um, and I
have kept in contact, I, youknow, over the years and it's
nice to be able to see what'sgoing on and people raising
their kids and their families,um, but I just didn't get to
graduate with them, so yeah, andthat you know, if that rings
(16:25):
true to something, because ofsocial media we have.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We, the first year we had a big 10 year reunion.
There was not social media yet.
And then our 20 year, we optedout.
What we did was we just putlike an event out on Facebook,
you know, to meet at a local bar, um, the night before
Thanksgiving when everybody goesout.
We're going to meet early,let's all get together, and they
actually comboed it like classof 90, 91, 92, like three years.
(16:53):
So it was.
It was so different than highschool reunions, I think, are
going to be a thing of the past.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I think so too, because everybody could just
keep up on social media and it'sso easy to do an event and like
, just show up and everybody youknow does their thing or you
know you mingle um, instead ofhaving to rent a hall and
coordinate and you know, it'slike having a wedding, basically
that was what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'm thinking body was for was your, your.
That's why people had a classpresident and a vp and a
treasurer, because those werethe people that they would then
do your high school reunions asa future forward.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I never knew that.
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, because we were poor withmoney in their adult age.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, we've had.
We had that happen so we hadthe student body came forward
because our class president wasnot following through with the
10 year, so we had to have otherpeople.
The student body.
I was actually called upon andI was.
I was part of it, but I waslike I don't even know.
I did arts and decorations.
I was part of it but I was likeI don't even know, I did arts
and decorations.
That's what I did.
I was in the student body and Iwas my senior year and I got
(17:57):
called to like be a maincomponent and I was like this is
what the vp supposed to bedoing, like I didn't want to do
it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's too much work I mean, I feel like that in many
faucets of my life, yeah, no Iknow, I know Amber does a lot of
work with our podcast.
You guys no, I'm just not justthis I'm any of my friends that
listen, know, but it's.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know what, though ?
I'm going to say somethingabout that because, like we were
talking to Carly in the lastone, she's a people pleaser.
Yeah, I think when people,people, they step up and they do
it, what then happens is otherpeople like, oh, then they take
a backseat because this otherperson's just doing it.
I feel that way this is goingto sound silly, but like when
(18:41):
you get married and you have ababy and you're just taking care
of the baby and you're changingthe diaper, and then you get
mad at the guy he never changesit.
Well, cause you're alwaysfucking taking care of changing
diaper right.
He's not having to right, likeyou're not letting him just.
You know, you just kind of gotto sit back, let those instincts
kick in and let the shit happenand literally yeah, and it
smells and it's stinky, and thenhe's like oh shit, I gotta
(19:03):
change.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You know, he's gotta do it, right yeah so that,
especially in today's day andage I think things are a little
bit should be more 50 50.
You know, it's we're partners,not like man, woman, woman stays
home, takes care of the kids,like today.
I feel like relationships aremore partnerships.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, especially because you know most households
full time both work, you knowyeah definitely it's hard.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
My friend Sophia, she has been off.
She got on, she was pregnantand had her third child.
She goes back pretty soon here.
She's been on for seven monthsand she's just like I know Well,
she was off two months earlyand, um, she exonerated all of
her stuff.
She's like how do I stay home?
This isn't fair, you know, andI'm like I'd be looking for a
(19:49):
way to get out with three kids.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because some people they can't
leave, it's just their nurturinginstinct.
And then some people are like Iam so ready to go back to work.
They want their independenceand stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean we do get to do things and she does
get some time, which is nice.
I stopped by her house theother night and just had a beer
with her and, just you know,hung out.
The kids or her kids wereswimming and she's like Thank
you so much for coming by andyou know because, as a new mom,
like you, don't always get to goout and do the fun things with
everybody.
So I think it's important foryour friendships.
(20:24):
You know, with that, you knowsometimes you have kids, when
your kids are grown.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yes, I love when friends just drop by.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, it's nice, so I love that.
I've known her for a long time,so you know I cherish all my
friendships.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, so back to the nostalgia episode.
Friendships, which are longestfriendship.
How old were you Are?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
they still a friend.
So I don't know what would youconsider a friend, like somebody
that I'm actively stillspeaking to somebody on social
media?
Because, for today which isweird that you ask this question
um, a friend that a girl thatgrew up across the street from
my grandparents house, where Iwas a lot of the time, um two
(21:09):
years old.
We were friends and I justmessaged her today because I
seen, you know, I I watch her onsocial media.
Oh, so she's on your facebooktype she is, and I I see some of
her stuff and I'm like oh, Iwonder you know, like, and I
wonder what her parents aredoing.
So today I actually shot her amessage and I was like hey, how
are you?
Like?
I saw that you move like, how'syour family?
Um, different lifestyles, uh,and that's okay.
(21:31):
But yeah, two years old, I meanwe don't talk or hang out or
anything, but like if she everneeded anything like I would do
what I could to help her.
But I'd say all my friendshipsI mean I've had friends forever.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So what's the longest one with somebody that you do
things with like you'll do a?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
girls trip with, currently um well, my ex's
sister, my best friend.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, and you were friends with her.
So you made friends with herwhen you were 15?
Yeah, 15.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So almost 25 years, I mean, although we weren't
really friends right away,because she didn't like me,
because you were dating herbrother?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, but she loves me now.
Oh my God, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Because her brother was ditching.
No, he was 18.
Oh, he was freaking 18.
Nowadays he was 17, almost 18.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Can you imagine nowadays, and you were 15, girl
yeah, he had just graduated.
That was a big deal back then.
Yeah, yeah, if you're 15 andhe's 17,.
That was like freaking 20dating 35 now.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I met him in November 99.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
That is so crazy, yeah, super crazy.
Mine I was, because I was ayounger graduate, so I was 14,
and my it's my bestie, melanie,and melanie lives in san diego,
but melanie's her and I likeshe'll be at my daughter's
wedding.
You know, she stood up with meat ken's funeral, nice, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So it's hard to find good people you know, and
sometimes you don't need to talkto somebody all the time or see
them all the time.
You know, um, for instance,like my best friend, she wants
to take Maya while I'm gone forthe weekend and um, I was like,
okay, that's fine.
And then we were trying tofigure out arrangements, cause
she lives an hour away.
So I was like I can meet youhalfway, but I can only do it
(23:24):
during this time, or whatever Isaid, or I can have Michaela do
it and she goes.
Well, I would like to see yourface too, like I haven't seen
you.
So I was like, okay, well, doesthis time work, you know?
And I said, but on Sunday, likeMichaela is going to have to
come get her.
She just had a grandbaby and soshe's involved, very involved,
(23:49):
and gets to, you know, take careof, help, take care of her
grandson when he's so cute andhe's already walking.
But like it's just like havinga kid all over again and she has
a family, you know, and kidstwo grown boys and then a
daughter in high school.
And that's just not where I'mat in my life.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So it's hard.
That's what happens.
I think people wait, but I loveher and I would you know.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Separately, we would do anything for each other.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And my kids are her kids and vice versa.
Maya told me the other day shewas like we saw a truck full of
teenage boys and like theparents like traveling somewhere
?
You could tell, because theywere pulling a fifth wheel.
And I was like, well, what ifyou had a bunch of brothers?
She was like, well, I alreadykind of do when I go to aunties.
And so I called her and she waslike, yeah, they beat up on her
, they're you know they're herbrother.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, definitely she likes it.
I have boy cousins and they didthat.
They would like, try to drownme in the pool and, you know,
scare the shit out of me, seearound me in the pool and, you
know, scare the shit out of me,see.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
and going back to being younger like I think that
was more.
That's how kids played today'sage like they do not play like
that.
It's like everybody's on theirphone, nobody's like playing tag
or like I've honestly let mykids doorbell ditch because I'm
like just don't get caught andif you do, I'm like you're gonna
be in trouble if they come overhere, let them them be kids,
yeah.
Let them be kids.
Like, obviously, if it's 10o'clock at night and somebody's
ringing a doorbell, that's notcool, but if it's like dusk and
(25:10):
somebody raised your doorbell,like they're going to be on
camera anyways most of the time,but like they're just being
kids up like that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I so wish they could too.
So, speaking of the hose, sospeaking of when we had our
friends, like our longtimefriends, cause it was just
reminding me of my longtimefriend Melanie so when we're
talking about like nostalgia andlike fashion and stuff,
obviously you have these friendsand you grow up and back in the
day do you borrow clothes.
Remember borrowing clothes?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So how did that work in your life?
So my dad always told me not toborrow clothes because it's
going to get ruined.
And then you're going to getmad that some you know your
friend ruined your shirt orwhatever.
So he was like anti, like donot share your shit.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay.
So when the girl wanted toborrow your stuff, you had to
tell her no, you sneak it to her, hey, hey, yes, but you have to
give it back to me and it looksgood and my dad's gonna be so
mad no, I don't ever rememberthat like being an issue.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, actually, I take that back.
I let somebody borrow um a downjacket.
It was reversible one side waswhite, one side was black and
okay, that sounds dope now right, it was like the thing to have
back then yeah, and she gotlipstick on the white part of
course it was the white part.
Yes, and it didn't.
(26:30):
It never came out and my dad'slike magic eraser was taken out
well.
I mean back then in the 90s,there was no magic eraser oh my
gosh, I know my gosh, yeah, butso that was like the one thing
that I can remember.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So, melanie, she had a police chief of a dad in
Clovis I know so he's verystrict.
So she had to come to schoolall looking one way and she'd go
directly to the bathroom andshe'd pull out her little small
skirt in her little tank toptype thing and she'd change in
the bathroom for school and thenshe'd change back before dad
(27:08):
picked her up.
How, where'd she get theseitems then?
Okay, just borrowing them therewas a place called Contempo,
Okay, and we would go to themall and you know we'd get like
20 bucks, 25 bucks.
And so everybody the parents,that was for food, right, Right,
no girl ate food.
And to this day we still don'teat food.
(27:28):
We shop, we use our money.
You know what I mean, Right.
Other things, guys.
They spend all their money onfood and beer and we're buying
other shit Even back then.
So Melanie would save her moneyand you know we'd go to these
little shops in the mall andshe'd buy things or she'd borrow
things.
Yeah, but that was the fun.
She was like the only friendthat really had like that strict
of a parent.
You know that had to do that,but um, but I do have a story,
(27:52):
because it kind of rings true inthis, because when I said
Contempo, that was like a namebrand place and I don't.
Do you remember a spree and allof those things.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I remember like yeah, I guess what seal?
Okay, well, there was anotherone like that too, and I don't
remember the name of it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh, no, no, no, I know Um justice, justice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Justice is like a wet seal, and forever 21 has been
around for a long time too.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yes, Um Pac-Sun.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yes, pac-sun, yep that one was um but um.
But I think everybody can canrelate with this one, so uggs
okay, oh yeah, for I mean thoseare still a thing, still a.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Thing most embarrassing story my daughter's
gonna kill me.
Okay, I did not believe a childunder the age of 10 should have
real uggs.
Like their feet are stillgrowing like.
I'm gonna buy those uggs andthose you Uggs last a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But not for kids.
They'll just grow right out ofthem, run around the playground
or whatnot 100%.
So I bought my daughter a pairof like the Bears I guess
they're called Bears, yeah, andyou can literally get them, like
at Target, I think.
So they're like 25 bucks.
She was only five my God, thisis so embarrassing five.
(29:08):
And so I had a pair of Uggsthat got damaged back then.
They don't even make themanymore.
They're on the back of the Uggwas a.
They were a metal plate and itsaid Ugg in metal.
Okay, so I was able to pull themetal plate off of that Ugg
O-M-G.
I glued them on the back of mydaughter's Tatum, remember this.
Oh my gosh, she's going to killme.
I glued them on the back of mydaughter's side Tatum, remember
this.
Oh my gosh, she's going to killme.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, let's see, this will be the test to see if she
really listens.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Oh, my God, Right, okay, so she came, so I put them
on.
They look so good, girl, theylook like real Uggs, okay.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Nobody's going to know.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No one's going to know, nobody's gonna know, no
one's gonna know.
And I think it was like hervalentine gift, you know, I know
so.
But she's so cute so she goes,and maybe first grade, so she
goes to school wearing her newbright, shiny uggs and then they
do crisscross applesauce on thefloor and her metal plate
popped off.
Her metal plate popped off, ohmy god.
(30:04):
And she grabbed it and she waslike, and she kept trying.
She said she kept trying to putit back on when she's a little
girl, right.
So then she was that small,that young and came home and
goes mom, you got me fake eggsoh my goodness, but look at how.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But bear paws aren't bad.
I buy bear paws today.
No, but they're not.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Uggs, they're not.
Uggs but no, no, and they mightnot have been bear paws.
They like they were like 20bucks.
So bear paws, I think, are moreright.
Yeah they're like 60.
Okay no, no, no.
These are like $20 from Target,but you could not tell Like.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I can't believe at that age she was so worried
about that.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I can't believe that she knew that they were fake.
Well, somebody told her.
I know, I know what's up.
Probably the teacher ruined mygame.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I know Well at that age she could read.
It probably said bear paw.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You know what?
I don't even know.
I just tried my damnedest.
I didn't think she was going tolike sit on the ground it.
I didn't think she was going tolike sit on the ground, it was
going to pop off.
I thought I did a good job withgluing it on Gorilla glue next
time.
No right, I tried my dad.
I probably needed like a fabricglue, is what I probably needed
Right Super glued I know.
So have you ever done anythinglike that when, like you had a
(31:19):
knockoff or you tried to makesomething, it wasn't?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I don't think I've ever made anything something
that it shouldn't, and I'm not.
I don't really care about brandnames, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Do you have friends?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Anybody you knew.
No, I don't.
I mean, I think I've had a fakecoach bag before, you know.
Yeah, but now I'm like I don'tknow.
I guess if something lookedlegitimate, I'd probably still
buy it if it was fake, becauseto me it's stupid to buy spend a
(31:52):
lot of money on things and I dohave a lot of purses and purses
I don't use, but never morethan a couple hundred dollars
yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So what about you have friends that you're like
there's no fucking way, that'sreal um, yes, and I'm like, but
I'm like, but where did you getthat right?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
no, I would never ask , you know.
I mean like I'd just be likewhatever, like it's that thing,
it's all materialistic shit itdoes not matter to me.
That doesn't make you as aperson.
I know a lot of people want to,you know, present themselves to
look like they have a lot ofmoney, but in reality, do you
think rich people or people thatare saving their money spend
(32:35):
money on that kind of stuff?
no, actually the wealthy peopleare the ones you would like
never know like seriously, yeah,I mean the bumbiest person can
come in and be the richestfucking man or woman.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, I work at a bank.
So in college, um and that wasthe case I was a specialty
teller, and so the specialtyteller did the um, the boxes,
what are they called?
The safety boxes.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Eight oh um, I know what you're talking about blank,
you know blank.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know what I mean the boxes, you guys know the
main.
Yeah, security boxes, securityboxes.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Whatever, whatever they're called, I can't think of
anything else.
I can't think of the name.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I did like the higher end accounts and stuff
and there would be like a lot oflike old people you know what I
mean that would walk in and youknow they were in the raggedy
stuff.
You know they just held on tothat muumuu forever, you know
like, and that man had thoseslippers with holes forever and
they probably had diamonds intheir box.
Oh my god I like literally wentinto their account and I was
(33:37):
gonna like fall over becausewalking up to my, my window, I
was like there's no way and Iwould look in their account and
I'd go oh my gosh, okay, safetydeposit box.
There we go, exactly.
I was just about to say it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes, safety deposit.
I was waiting for a break.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
So they would come to me, they would have their key
and I have to take them back.
I would go into their account.
They'd make a deposit and Iwould say I'm not gonna say nine
times out of 10, but I woulddefinitely say more than half,
more than half, so 70%, I'll gowith that.
You would look at them and gooh my gosh.
(34:14):
And then you would look at therest of the line and you would
see people that were flashy, youknow, back then, like in a Fila
tracksuit or wearing a Fendibag, and a bad attitude, and
they would be negative, negative$100 in their account.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Right, and I mean, who doesn't like nice things?
Everybody likes nice things,but I think, especially in
today's world, we try so hard tokeep up with the Joneses, right
, like we want to have an image.
But who are we doing that for?
Yeah, for yourself, for otherpeople to think something of you
(34:52):
.
You know what I mean, and a lotof people go broke.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It's an insecurity I think I mean I'll go broke over
vacations all day.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
But as far as materialistic things, I could
give a shit about.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I'm like that I'll go broke over vacations and my
kids, yeah, I'll like.
You know, my daughter going todance killed us.
You know, comp dance was soexpensive it was just like
drained us, right.
But I just knew I was likethese are memories that she's
going to have for life.
And sure enough, I mean, she'sgot freaking Kaylee, who's her
maid of honor, she, kaylee,who's her maid of honor.
She met and danced four yearsold and they're still besties.
(35:25):
That's awesome, right?
So that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Any kind of sports, anything like
that one.
It's time and money.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, time and money, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, I think that you know.
I have one more question.
Let's talk about our first jobsreal quick.
Last one what was your firstjob?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I was just talking about this.
Okay, I have one like salty job.
I'm going to say I was salty, Iwas 12.
I should not have been workingwhat the hell I know but I was
like a hustler, I had to be ahustler.
I lost my mom.
Like my mom got sick when I was10, right, so I just had to
(36:12):
figure it out like early on, andI I remembered the name it was
lambert's portrait studio and itwas in fresno and I would call,
cold call and give free eightby tens.
How the hell do you gonna?
Did you know somebody?
I did?
You know somebody?
I did.
Two other high school girls hada job there, and so my friend
in my middle school was that wasone of their sisters, and so
they're like I think they havean opening.
(36:32):
So I'm like I need to work, Ineed my own money.
Like my mom's sick and you know, and I'm not even kidding at
age 12.
Like I was like ahead of thegame, I was very mature.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I was like ahead of the game, I was very
mature.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, you had to grow up and I was already getting my
nails done.
I told you it was big, longfluorescent nails.
I had to have money for mynails and I would wear LA gears,
were they light ups?
Oh my God, no, they didn'tlight up.
So Lambert's Portrait Studio.
But that was like short-livedbecause, oh my.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
God, you were 12?
.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Oh my God, and your cold calling is awful.
So I did that.
And then my real first job,which is so, so crazy, because
it's weird that you're sayingthis um was at Baskin Robbins.
I was an ice cream scooper, andin Fresno they have three
locations and so we would rotateand work these three locations.
Recently, like two weeks ago, Imet, met campagna like a local
(37:26):
bar restaurant, and coming up tome is a friend of mine and we
had like almost every shifttogether.
His name's eric.
He comes up to me, hey, eric,he's like what the fuck?
And I'm like I didn't recognizehim.
You know, he recognized me, butwe've had a shot on, but he's
not on there very much.
Yeah, I ended up introducing himto my high school friend and
(37:50):
they got together, got married,married 30 years.
Oh, wow, yeah, they're going, Ithink, on a different path now,
hence why he was out atCampania, right, right, but we
were reminiscing about, like mygod remember, we used to scoop
ice cream and so, with thisbeing said, we used to take, of
course, the whipped cream cansand we would go to the vet, like
(38:13):
at the end of the night, wesave the cans, save the cans,
and we would say like 10 cansand we go in the back before
we'd close out, you know, andwe'd hit them like whip it, yeah
, right, yeah, I was 16 yearsold, oh my god, and I worked
there like a year and a half,which is a long time for back
(38:33):
then.
Like a year and a half, yeah,yeah, I was a super scooper man
and then when I got to be a cakedecorator, that was like hell
yeah oh, that's so funny okay somy first job was Papa Murphy's.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Papa Murphy's.
Yeah it was fun.
It was fun especially becauseyou could, like, make pizzas and
take them home like however youwanted.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It wasn't like no menu you know, yeah, Like
however you wanted, you couldhave like extra, extra, extra
cheese.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, yes, oh, my God.
So that was cool few months,because then, you know, I had a
boyfriend, ruined my life.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You've been a man in your life.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I know it's horrible, but we're gonna check your
picker yeah, yeah, I think Ineed a new picker, um, but yeah,
I like, I like that.
But it's funny that you saythat about the cake decorating,
because michaela's been at coldstone for a year and she just
learned how to do cakes and shesent me a picture, um, from work
(39:28):
.
I guess they take Polaroidpictures and they have like a
board that they put people'spictures on when they do certain
things.
And so she's like, look, shesent me the picture and I'm like
, oh, that's so cute she's proudof being a cake decorator so
when you said that I was like ohmy god, she was so happy, you
know yeah, yeah, so pop them.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Or how long did you work there?
Probably?
Three months oh my god, yeahyeah, I was more like I ran the
streets.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I was.
I was a troublemaker.
I was a very troubled teen.
I worked at granny's.
Do you remember granny's?
No, is that like hot cookies orsomething?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
it sounds like miss oh, my god, this is so great.
No, grannies was like they hadfried okra.
Yeah, grannies, now I gottagoogle it, but it was in clovis.
But the only reason I workedthere because, like dude,
minimum wage back then was like,fuck, I don't know.
(40:27):
Three, 50 an hour maybe, butgrannies, you made $4 an hour.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Of course it's like everybody wants to work at
In-N-Out because they pay for it.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
You know, yes, so you made more money.
Yes, grannies, I want, I wantto Google, see if it um the
restaurant.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I think when I started working I was like $7 or
something back then.
But you know, now my daughter,as of April 1st, is making $20
an hour.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
What.
Yeah, because they're waityou're right, yeah, all the fast
foods?
Right, yeah, but they're noteven fast food.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
They're ice cream scoopers.
Oh, but it's because, from whatI understand I don't know if
this is correct but anyfranchise that has 20 or more no
, 60 or more locations has topay that wage, which means they
raise their prices that thatwell, but that means everything
(41:22):
else.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry you guys, I was looking, and
yeah, it's Granny's like soulfood kitchen.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Kitchen see.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I like some soul food .
Yeah, back in the day.
Granny's it's gone, it's done,now Done son yeah.
That's so great, but you knowthat's a whole other topic.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
And actually Nikki would be great to have talking
about this minimum wage increase.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
You know we should talk about today, did bartenders
?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
get that?
I don't think so, becausethey're not franchises, okay, so
just franchise?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I think so.
Oh, and only in california andonly yeah, only california.
But now everybody's gonna go gowork fast food or they're gonna
start not going and places aregonna close down like they
already have.
Yeah, there has been someplaces Because prices, either
the business owner can't affordthe employees, so have closed
doors or they're going to raiseprices to compensate or be short
(42:12):
staffed and they're not goingto get good service, right.
And then people aren't going togo there, you know right.
And they're going to more, cookfrom home or do whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
I don't think 16, 17-year-oldsneed 18-year-olds need to be
making $20 an hour.
Yeah, no, I don't think soeither.
My daughter blows through hermoney, so I'm trying to talk to
her about starting a Roth.
You know, just trying to investmoney, start young.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Start young and then when you do this, it just makes
everything go up, go up.
So my thought is what?
What?
At some point in life, minimumwage can be $50 an hour, like,
how are you going to reversethis?
There's no way.
It's hard to go back.
You can't if you, if you lookat time, we've never gone back.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
No, my grandparents bought their house for $60,000
and it's worth 2 million.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh my God, where's it at San.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Jose, oh the bay, I mean they don't.
They sold it before it wasworth that.
But I always look it up becauseit's like my childhood home and
two-story huge backyard, southsan jose beautiful neighborhood
and it's I gotta zillow mychildhood.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, everybody should zillow.
Get on your phone, zillow yourchildhood home?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
definitely it's.
It's amazing because thensometimes you see pictures of
how it's upgraded.
Oh, you're like, that was myroom.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I'm like, oh my God, I remember that they took down
my wallpaper, you know the frontyard looks different now or I
don't know, or even maybe thatsame swing is still up, or
something you never know.
Oh, my God, I want to do that,I got look at it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
So all right, well, let's wrap up this episode.
I know we're missing Nikkitonight, but we were able to
manage.
So with that I'm going to sayRoger, that, Roger, that
everyone.
Welcome back listeners.
This is small town, big mouthspodcast and this is amber here,
one and only hey everyone, weare glad to have you here, and
this is misty aka dolce.
So today we're gonna start uh.
I can't even talk, that's whyamber has a buzz.
We are gonna start off talkingabout Um our first concert.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, we thought we'd do like a little nostalgic
episode, because it's really funto kind of reminisce on past
times.
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Cheers.
So my first I'm going to saythat I could remember was a
crisscross concert.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
And tell wait first of all who got the tickets.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't, even, I don't, even, I can't even tell
you who I went with.
It was at great america.
Um, great, I grew up in the bayarea, so having, uh, going to
great america was like a ritual,you know.
You just went there everysummer because that's what there
was to do.
Um, but I remember even beingin elementary school when they
were popular, and wearing myclothes backwards because I
(01:03):
thought it was like cool.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Wait, you really did that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I did, like you, my overalls, my overalls.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh, so you wore the square part in the back, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh my God, how embarrassing right.
Oh my God.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I had you everyone.
Okay, this is like a little kid.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It is a little kid, and I think one of them died by
now.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh, my God, look how little.
Yeah, you guys, you have toYouTube him if you don't know
who Chris Cross is, but everyoneknows this song.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's got a good beat?
Yeah, so that was my firstconcert.
I can't tell you who I wentwith, who took me?
Um, yeah, because you can drivethat song came out in 92, so I
was only eight years old sothat's a young to go to a
concert like that.
But they were all little kids,yeah it had to have been,
because look how young they were, so, um, but I just remember, I
(02:01):
like, I really like them, andthen they just like, fell off
the planet.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
But I'm older than you, obviously, and in 92, there
was grown-ass men pumping thatshit.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, did you hear the beat?
I know the beat.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was a good beat it was.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
I just can't get over you wearing your clothes
backwards Only a few times, Ithink, I don't know Did other
kids in the school grounds havethat.
Yeah, Okay, and the teachersthey allowed it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
They didn't even get in trouble.
Have to go change your clothes?
No, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean, come on, think about it, In the 90s
things were a lot easiercompared to what they are today.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
In school, I think that's so funny.
Yeah Well, my first.
I mean not even like.
It's kind of the same, likerealm of yours, it's like new
kids on the block.
Nkotb, you know me, oh my God.
And it was at a small venue inFresno, California, called
(03:00):
Warner's Theater, and I was like12.
And oh gosh, like you know, I'mlike you.
I don't remember who I wentwith, I'm sure my middle school
friends, because I'm just 12,right.
So sixth or seventh grade,probably the sixth grade summer,
I think that's what I'm feeling, although I don't remember
everything, but I do rememberand I still do that to this day.
(03:21):
I, I want to be at the front.
I want to be at the front.
You know what I mean, right?
So I pushed my way to the frontand that was like miserable,
everybody's doing that.
And they were up and comingLike new kids on the block.
They blew up and I hadeverybody pushing me, pushing me
, and I was like one of thoselittle kids that couldn't
breathe, like.
(03:41):
I was getting squished you knowwhat I mean At the, at the iron
gate, like iron gate, and I wasgetting squished at it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well now kids, with that happens, you know they're
like falling to the ground andfainting.
We were built a lot tougherback then.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I believe.
So I don't think it caused atrend for me, though, like it
did cause for me to like or like, like or to like think a
certain type of guy was cute,though, because then I kind of
had a thing for like you knowboy bands kind of, after that,
like that boy band, look yeah,yeah, I don't know.
(04:18):
I mean so wait after crisscross, because you liked them, you
wanted to go.
Yeah, did you go back to schooland did you like, look at
little boys, like, did you havea thing like for?
Like like the war overalls?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
um no, I don't, I don't think so.
Um, I mean, I liked, I'vealways liked boys so I was a
little boy crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was crazy too, yeah yeah, yeah, because sometimes I
feel like music, I at leastthis is for me.
Okay, this is, this is how weget epiphanies, even at this age
of life.
Like music spawns me to like acertain type of guy Cause, then
I went through a phase where Iliked to push mode and the cure
and then I liked those type ofguys, you know, creep, and then
(05:02):
I liked those type of guys, youknow creepers and docs and just
like dark, like a little more, Iguess what people would call
emo.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, that's never beenmy type.
I either liked white guys,mexican guys, and then my
husband was mixed black whiteand Mexican, so I got.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh yeah, he was all three.
Yeah, oh, my gosh, yeah Ididn't know that.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So good-looking guy, yeah, very handsome.
I've seen the photos.
Thank you, thank you, but yeah,I've never really went for like
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Did he have all the best parts of those three?
He did.
I mean, I just got thinkingright now.
He had the charisma.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He had the charisma too, the nice Charisma.
He had the charisma to the nicesmile never no braces, which is
weird because both my kids arein braces and neither one of us
have had them.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So let me ask you this, because we're going back
in time and I know one of yourthings and with your husband,
you, you like the Raiders, youlike that, that jam Raider
nation.
So so back in time, did youalways like the Raiders?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, it's so weird.
So the other day I don't knowif you saw it I posted on
Instagram a picture.
Somebody was like oh, post apicture from you know, back in
the days I found one of me whenI was probably about 14.
I had a Raiders jersey on.
I don't know how I became aRaiders fan because I've been
one since I was younger.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
How in the hell did you find a photo nowadays?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I think it's something.
I don't know where I found thisphoto, but I knew I had one of
me as a young girl in this photo, so I knew where to look.
Yeah, but yeah, even like myfirst boyfriend.
My first real boyfriend was a49er fan.
I grew up in a 49er household.
I don't know how I became aRaider fan.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Wait, that's weird.
And then I married one.
Yeah, because usually there'slike a grandpa or an uncle,
somebody, no, no.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, I remember even making my grandma.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Probably you like the colors.
That seems like a lot of peopleyou know whoops.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I even made my grandma like a 49er pillow for
Christmas one year because I wasin sewing class.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Everybody was Niner fans in my household.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean because I you know, I'm not a Raiders fan, I'm
a Niner fan, but they got greatcolors yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I mean, I like wearing black yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I give you that , so maybe Interesting, yeah,
and I mean I was kind of like alittle thuggish.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I had like a little bit of thugg, you think, like
red is you know what I mean?
Like I don't know.
I don't know how I became aRaiders fan.
I'd like to know though.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You'd like to rewind the wheels in?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
the head.
Yeah, sometimes, if you couldremember everything.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So I know like so Amber and I were kind of
reminiscing about our youth andold times and we were talking
about going back like firstconcerts, everything we're
talking about.
And then we thought, okay,fashion, since we are talking
about the colors and stuff.
So she was looking up, she'slike, oh my gosh, you remember
this.
So we want to talk about someof the fashion maybe faux paws
(07:56):
that we've had, because I am sodying to hear because you're
about.
She's like 10 years youngerthan me, so you're a little
different generation, right?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
so I mean for me it was like baggy jeans um platform
shoes.
I remember wearing like dickyoveralls or dicky pants um like
a choker.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I wore chokers, yeah yeah, chokers um maroon dark
wore white lipstick I used towear white eyeliner okay, yes,
on the inside too, it's supposedto pop your eyes, yeah I've
seen that for nowadays, but likeI used to wear it on the top.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I don't know.
I wish I could find a pictureof me like that, because what
the fuck was I doing wearingwhite eyeliner?
And how did I even know thatwas like a thing I don't?
Was that a thing back then?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
uh, was white lipstick a thing back then?
I've never seen white lipstick.
I wore white lipstick becauseit made you look tanner.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh my God, we had the worst tans.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh my God, we would go on the roof with Crisco and I
emphasize Mouth dropped on thatone.
What the hell?
We would sunbathe on the roof,literally.
We would put lawn chairs upthere.
We'd get a ladder and this ismiddle school.
We'd go up there, put our lawnchairs down, we'd rub Crisco on
us.
And then do you guys rememberour audience?
(09:18):
Some of you guys will rememberAmber, probably won't, but
three's company yeah, it's ashow.
Okay, yeah, it's a show.
Yeah, she's like.
My mom watched it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Suzanne.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Somers had this tinfoil thing that she made and
she sunbathed with the tinfoilthing like under her chin.
You took cardboard and youbasically wrapped it in tinfoil
because it reflected.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Or a magazine.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, because the tinfoil oh, you put the tinfoil
on the magazine.
Yeah, because it bends, youknow Exactly.
And then the sun reflected, andso you, supposedly you didn't
get a better tan, you basicallygot skin cancer.
Is what you got, yeah, so don'tyou?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
hate that like when you're tanning today and then
you're like you're out in thesun all day and then all of a
sudden, like your neck and partof your chest is white, because
your face, or you know if you'relaying out a certain way, well,
no, what I hate today, amber,is that I did that shit to
myself and I go holy crap, lookat all my wrinkles are coming
out now.
Well, at least nowadays,there's things that we can do to
(10:19):
help with those.
Yeah, I agree, and I will do ithey if it works and you can
afford it, and why?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
not yeah, whatever makes you feel better.
So platform shoes.
When you say platform, whatkind of shoes?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I remember white leather shoes and they probably
had a three-inch platform.
They were just like a sneakerfrom Payless Shoe Stores.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Payless Shoe Stores.
Yes, I wore winos.
They were black canvas with atan bottom.
Oh my gosh, they were calledwinos.
That were black canvas with atan bottom oh my gosh, they were
called winos.
That's funny.
You probably never heard ofthem.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I've never even heard .
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm like, I'm going to have to look that up.
I actually Googled them onetime.
It was like a big era with theCure, depeche Mode, abc.
Oh my gosh, all of these bands,what about?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
let's punk.
What about um beanie babies?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I I bought one for my daughter amber probably owned
several.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Um, I've never been into them.
I mean, I think I have somelike random ones, nothing like
encased or anything like that.
But, um, my, my youngest mayawould like.
She likes them, and so likewhen she was younger my friend
had a whole bunch and she waslike here so, and then they were
like Christmas ones or whatever, so like they're in my
Christmas stuff and so like atChristmas time I'll put one out
(11:40):
or something, yeah, but theyused to have them.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
My daughter she was born Christmas 1998.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And so I bought her the Christmas one and I encased
it.
Yeah, I encased it.
Yeah, I have it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I got to give it to her.
I wonder if it's worth anythingI know.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I don't want her to sell it.
People were going crazy overthose.
No, like mania.
Yeah, I remember, I was likedoes it have the tie tag?
If it's not real, does it havea tie tag?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Well, you could get them in your Happy Meals when
they were $1.99.
I mean, don't know, because Idon't buy happy meals, but they
still have happy meals.
Yeah, okay, with toys.
I mean they're probably nottoys like they did back in the
days, because a beanie baby's agood toy.
Yeah, remember people used togo get happy meals and they'd
(12:22):
have all these collectormcdonald's toys, yeah, oh my god
, that shit's probably so worthsomething now yeah, probably I
mean, but who would have thatstuff?
Still, I mean mean hoarders.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you know what Well, you remember.
Okay, what was that movie?
40-year-old Virgin yes, do youremember?
He was a hoarder of all of histoys.
And then he met that reallycool girl and she did eBay stuff
and she's like, oh my God,you're sitting on a landmine.
And sure enough he was like amillionaire.
He ended up selling.
She helped him to sell all ofhis stuff and he was.
(12:53):
He became cool because he wasnerdy guy, remember, never had
sex or anything.
And then he became cool.
And you know what that is sotrue.
Ever have you been to a highschool reunion?
Speaker 1 (13:04):
No, so I went to a school in Fremont for my ninth
and 10th grade.
I met a guy that lived in SanJose and I started ditching
school the second half of 10thgrade and then, like the last
quarter, I just like stoppedgoing to school and then I
finally moved back to San Josewith my mom because I kept
(13:26):
running away.
And then I ended up going to acontinuation school for my
junior senior year because Ididn't have enough credits.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Um, and that's okay If you guys haven't listened to
our previous episode.
Carly said what would you tellyourself?
And she said don't have aboyfriend in high school.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yes, absolutely, um.
And what's what's even weirdtoday?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
because here I am, 25 years later today, because here
I am 25 years later.
Um, that guy's sister is mybest friend today, oh my gosh,
yeah.
So so wait, do you see?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
him, I do.
Oh yeah, I do.
He has uh two kids.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
He's on his second marriage um when you see him, is
there like any spark?
No, okay, I'm just wondering no, no, we're way.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I mean we're way past that.
Um, obviously, like I've beenmarried and everything too.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
No, I know what my high school.
He's on my facebook like I knowmy high school and no interest
whatsoever.
Like I've got such a differenttype now.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah yeah, he's definitely not my type, isn't
that crazy?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
and you were so into him that you were ditching
school girl.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He was the love of my life.
You thought you were marryinghim.
Yes, I mean, it's crazy,because their mom is my second
mom.
She says this is my daughterand then I call her mama.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
That's so crazy.
It's crazy, that is cool thatyou still have all that
relationship though.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, definitely.
I mean I'm glad that thingsdidn't end bad with us, like
life happens.
But yeah, I mean I'm gratefuland plus, everything I've been
through has taught me and it ledme to my husband.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well, yeah, I do definitely believe everything
happens for a reason.
The reason too I was asking ifyou'd ever been to a high school
reunion.
Because, back to the nerdything, I have been, and it's so
crazy because that is very truethe nerds are the hot guys, oh
my god they are, and the guysthat were the athletes, and like
the cool dudes, they're fat andbald I was gonna say fat or
(15:27):
bald, you know, and I know baldyou can't help right you know,
and I know bald you can't help,right yeah.
You know your genetics.
Yeah, if you're fitness you can, but just that it's.
It sounds so cliche, but it wasreal Like for our high school.
There's very few and I don'twant to put them all out, cause
gosh, I have a ton on myFacebook and they probably
listen.
Sorry, boys, but um, I don'twant to put them all out because
(15:49):
some I'm highly impressed LikeI see them and I'm like, oh my
God, like he's really maintainedor you know.
But the nerdy ones, theysurprise you because they kind
of fill out.
You know, yeah, they grow up,they grow up.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
They're late bloomers .
Speaker 2 (16:03):
They're late bloomers .
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, I kind of wish that.
I mean, I have friends fromhigh school that I did go to
like a regular high school withon my social media, um, and I
have kept in contact, I, youknow, over the years and it's
nice to be able to see what'sgoing on and people raising
their kids and their families,um, but I just didn't get to
graduate with them, so yeah, andthat you know, if that rings
(16:25):
true to something, because ofsocial media we have.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
We, the first year we had a big 10 year reunion.
There was not social media yet.
And then our 20 year, we optedout.
What we did was we just putlike an event out on Facebook,
you know, to meet at a local bar, um, the night before
Thanksgiving when everybody goesout.
We're going to meet early,let's all get together, and they
actually comboed it like classof 90, 91, 92, like three years.
(16:53):
So it was.
It was so different than highschool reunions, I think, are
going to be a thing of the past.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I think so too, because everybody could just
keep up on social media and it'sso easy to do an event and like
, just show up and everybody youknow does their thing or you
know you mingle um, instead ofhaving to rent a hall and
coordinate and you know, it'slike having a wedding, basically
that was what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I'm thinking body was for was your, your.
That's why people had a classpresident and a vp and a
treasurer, because those werethe people that they would then
do your high school reunions asa future forward.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I never knew that.
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, because we were poor withmoney in their adult age.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, we've had.
We had that happen so we hadthe student body came forward
because our class president wasnot following through with the
10 year, so we had to have otherpeople.
The student body.
I was actually called upon andI was.
I was part of it, but I waslike I don't even know.
I did arts and decorations.
I was part of it but I was likeI don't even know, I did arts
and decorations.
That's what I did.
I was in the student body and Iwas my senior year and I got
(17:57):
called to like be a maincomponent and I was like this is
what the vp supposed to bedoing, like I didn't want to do
it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's too much work I mean, I feel like that in many
faucets of my life, yeah, no Iknow, I know Amber does a lot of
work with our podcast.
You guys no, I'm just not justthis I'm any of my friends that
listen, know, but it's.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know what, though ?
I'm going to say somethingabout that because, like we were
talking to Carly in the lastone, she's a people pleaser.
Yeah, I think when people,people, they step up and they do
it, what then happens is otherpeople like, oh, then they take
a backseat because this otherperson's just doing it.
I feel that way this is goingto sound silly, but like when
(18:41):
you get married and you have ababy and you're just taking care
of the baby and you're changingthe diaper, and then you get
mad at the guy he never changesit.
Well, cause you're alwaysfucking taking care of changing
diaper right.
He's not having to right, likeyou're not letting him just.
You know, you just kind of gotto sit back, let those instincts
kick in and let the shit happenand literally yeah, and it
smells and it's stinky, and thenhe's like oh shit, I gotta
(19:03):
change.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
You know, he's gotta do it, right yeah so that,
especially in today's day andage I think things are a little
bit should be more 50 50.
You know, it's we're partners,not like man, woman, woman stays
home, takes care of the kids,like today.
I feel like relationships aremore partnerships.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, especially because you know most households
full time both work, you knowyeah definitely it's hard.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
My friend Sophia, she has been off.
She got on, she was pregnantand had her third child.
She goes back pretty soon here.
She's been on for seven monthsand she's just like I know Well,
she was off two months earlyand, um, she exonerated all of
her stuff.
She's like how do I stay home?
This isn't fair, you know, andI'm like I'd be looking for a
(19:49):
way to get out with three kids.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because some people they can't
leave, it's just their nurturinginstinct.
And then some people are like Iam so ready to go back to work.
They want their independenceand stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean we do get to do things and she does
get some time, which is nice.
I stopped by her house theother night and just had a beer
with her and, just you know,hung out.
The kids or her kids wereswimming and she's like Thank
you so much for coming by andyou know because, as a new mom,
like you, don't always get to goout and do the fun things with
everybody.
So I think it's important foryour friendships.
(20:24):
You know, with that, you knowsometimes you have kids, when
your kids are grown.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yes, I love when friends just drop by.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, it's nice, so I love that.
I've known her for a long time,so you know I cherish all my
friendships.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, so back to the nostalgia episode.
Friendships, which are longestfriendship.
How old were you Are?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
they still a friend.
So I don't know what would youconsider a friend, like somebody
that I'm actively stillspeaking to somebody on social
media?
Because, for today which isweird that you ask this question
um, a friend that a girl thatgrew up across the street from
my grandparents house, where Iwas a lot of the time, um two
(21:09):
years old.
We were friends and I justmessaged her today because I
seen, you know, I I watch her onsocial media.
Oh, so she's on your facebooktype she is, and I I see some of
her stuff and I'm like oh, Iwonder you know, like, and I
wonder what her parents aredoing.
So today I actually shot her amessage and I was like hey, how
are you?
Like?
I saw that you move like, how'syour family?
Um, different lifestyles, uh,and that's okay.
(21:31):
But yeah, two years old, I meanwe don't talk or hang out or
anything, but like if she everneeded anything like I would do
what I could to help her.
But I'd say all my friendshipsI mean I've had friends forever.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So what's the longest one with somebody that you do
things with like you'll do a?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
girls trip with, currently um well, my ex's
sister, my best friend.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, and you were friends with her.
So you made friends with herwhen you were 15?
Yeah, 15.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So almost 25 years, I mean, although we weren't
really friends right away,because she didn't like me,
because you were dating herbrother?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, but she loves me now.
Oh my God, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Because her brother was ditching.
No, he was 18.
Oh, he was freaking 18.
Nowadays he was 17, almost 18.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Can you imagine nowadays, and you were 15, girl
yeah, he had just graduated.
That was a big deal back then.
Yeah, yeah, if you're 15 andhe's 17,.
That was like freaking 20dating 35 now.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I met him in November 99.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
That is so crazy, yeah, super crazy.
Mine I was, because I was ayounger graduate, so I was 14,
and my it's my bestie, melanie,and melanie lives in san diego,
but melanie's her and I likeshe'll be at my daughter's
wedding.
You know, she stood up with meat ken's funeral, nice, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So it's hard to find good people you know, and
sometimes you don't need to talkto somebody all the time or see
them all the time.
You know, um, for instance,like my best friend, she wants
to take Maya while I'm gone forthe weekend and um, I was like,
okay, that's fine.
And then we were trying tofigure out arrangements, cause
she lives an hour away.
So I was like I can meet youhalfway, but I can only do it
(23:24):
during this time, or whatever Isaid, or I can have Michaela do
it and she goes.
Well, I would like to see yourface too, like I haven't seen
you.
So I was like, okay, well, doesthis time work, you know?
And I said, but on Sunday, likeMichaela is going to have to
come get her.
She just had a grandbaby and soshe's involved, very involved,
(23:49):
and gets to, you know, take careof, help, take care of her
grandson when he's so cute andhe's already walking.
But like it's just like havinga kid all over again and she has
a family, you know, and kidstwo grown boys and then a
daughter in high school.
And that's just not where I'mat in my life.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
So it's hard.
That's what happens.
I think people wait, but I loveher and I would you know.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Separately, we would do anything for each other.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And my kids are her kids and vice versa.
Maya told me the other day shewas like we saw a truck full of
teenage boys and like theparents like traveling somewhere
?
You could tell, because theywere pulling a fifth wheel.
And I was like, well, what ifyou had a bunch of brothers?
She was like, well, I alreadykind of do when I go to aunties.
And so I called her and she waslike, yeah, they beat up on her
, they're you know they're herbrother.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, definitely she likes it.
I have boy cousins and they didthat.
They would like, try to drownme in the pool and, you know,
scare the shit out of me, seearound me in the pool and, you
know, scare the shit out of me,see.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
and going back to being younger like I think that
was more.
That's how kids played today'sage like they do not play like
that.
It's like everybody's on theirphone, nobody's like playing tag
or like I've honestly let mykids doorbell ditch because I'm
like just don't get caught andif you do, I'm like you're gonna
be in trouble if they come overhere, let them them be kids,
yeah.
Let them be kids.
Like, obviously, if it's 10o'clock at night and somebody's
ringing a doorbell, that's notcool, but if it's like dusk and
(25:10):
somebody raised your doorbell,like they're going to be on
camera anyways most of the time,but like they're just being
kids up like that.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I so wish they could too.
So, speaking of the hose, sospeaking of when we had our
friends, like our longtimefriends, cause it was just
reminding me of my longtimefriend Melanie so when we're
talking about like nostalgia andlike fashion and stuff,
obviously you have these friendsand you grow up and back in the
day do you borrow clothes.
Remember borrowing clothes?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So how did that work in your life?
So my dad always told me not toborrow clothes because it's
going to get ruined.
And then you're going to getmad that some you know your
friend ruined your shirt orwhatever.
So he was like anti, like donot share your shit.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Okay.
So when the girl wanted toborrow your stuff, you had to
tell her no, you sneak it to her, hey, hey, yes, but you have to
give it back to me and it looksgood and my dad's gonna be so
mad no, I don't ever rememberthat like being an issue.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, actually, I take that back.
I let somebody borrow um a downjacket.
It was reversible one side waswhite, one side was black and
okay, that sounds dope now right, it was like the thing to have
back then yeah, and she gotlipstick on the white part of
course it was the white part.
Yes, and it didn't.
(26:30):
It never came out and my dad'slike magic eraser was taken out
well.
I mean back then in the 90s,there was no magic eraser oh my
gosh, I know my gosh, yeah, butso that was like the one thing
that I can remember.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So, melanie, she had a police chief of a dad in
Clovis I know so he's verystrict.
So she had to come to schoolall looking one way and she'd go
directly to the bathroom andshe'd pull out her little small
skirt in her little tank toptype thing and she'd change in
the bathroom for school and thenshe'd change back before dad
(27:08):
picked her up.
How, where'd she get theseitems then?
Okay, just borrowing them therewas a place called Contempo,
Okay, and we would go to themall and you know we'd get like
20 bucks, 25 bucks.
And so everybody the parents,that was for food, right, Right,
no girl ate food.
And to this day we still don'teat food.
(27:28):
We shop, we use our money.
You know what I mean, Right.
Other things, guys.
They spend all their money onfood and beer and we're buying
other shit Even back then.
So Melanie would save her moneyand you know we'd go to these
little shops in the mall andshe'd buy things or she'd borrow
things.
Yeah, but that was the fun.
She was like the only friendthat really had like that strict
of a parent.
You know that had to do that,but um, but I do have a story,
(27:52):
because it kind of rings true inthis, because when I said
Contempo, that was like a namebrand place and I don't.
Do you remember a spree and allof those things.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I remember like yeah, I guess what seal?
Okay, well, there was anotherone like that too, and I don't
remember the name of it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh, no, no, no, I know Um justice, justice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Justice is like a wet seal, and forever 21 has been
around for a long time too.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yes, Um Pac-Sun.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yes, pac-sun, yep that one was um but um.
But I think everybody can canrelate with this one, so uggs
okay, oh yeah, for I mean thoseare still a thing, still a.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Thing most embarrassing story my daughter's
gonna kill me.
Okay, I did not believe a childunder the age of 10 should have
real uggs.
Like their feet are stillgrowing like.
I'm gonna buy those uggs andthose you Uggs last a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But not for kids.
They'll just grow right out ofthem, run around the playground
or whatnot 100%.
So I bought my daughter a pairof like the Bears I guess
they're called Bears, yeah, andyou can literally get them, like
at Target, I think.
So they're like 25 bucks.
She was only five my God, thisis so embarrassing five.
(29:08):
And so I had a pair of Uggsthat got damaged back then.
They don't even make themanymore.
They're on the back of the Uggwas a.
They were a metal plate and itsaid Ugg in metal.
Okay, so I was able to pull themetal plate off of that Ugg
O-M-G.
I glued them on the back of mydaughter's Tatum, remember this.
Oh my gosh, she's going to killme.
I glued them on the back of mydaughter's side Tatum, remember
this.
Oh my gosh, she's going to killme.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Well, let's see, this will be the test to see if she
really listens.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Oh, my God, Right, okay, so she came, so I put them
on.
They look so good, girl, theylook like real Uggs, okay.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Nobody's going to know.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
No one's going to know, nobody's gonna know, no
one's gonna know.
And I think it was like hervalentine gift, you know, I know
so.
But she's so cute so she goes,and maybe first grade, so she
goes to school wearing her newbright, shiny uggs and then they
do crisscross applesauce on thefloor and her metal plate
popped off.
Her metal plate popped off, ohmy god.
(30:04):
And she grabbed it and she waslike, and she kept trying.
She said she kept trying to putit back on when she's a little
girl, right.
So then she was that small,that young and came home and
goes mom, you got me fake eggsoh my goodness, but look at how.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But bear paws aren't bad.
I buy bear paws today.
No, but they're not.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Uggs, they're not.
Uggs but no, no, and they mightnot have been bear paws.
They like they were like 20bucks.
So bear paws, I think, are moreright.
Yeah they're like 60.
Okay no, no, no.
These are like $20 from Target,but you could not tell Like.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I can't believe at that age she was so worried
about that.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I can't believe that she knew that they were fake.
Well, somebody told her.
I know, I know what's up.
Probably the teacher ruined mygame.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I know Well at that age she could read.
It probably said bear paw.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You know what?
I don't even know.
I just tried my damnedest.
I didn't think she was going tolike sit on the ground it.
I didn't think she was going tolike sit on the ground, it was
going to pop off.
I thought I did a good job withgluing it on Gorilla glue next
time.
No right, I tried my dad.
I probably needed like a fabricglue, is what I probably needed
Right Super glued I know.
So have you ever done anythinglike that when, like you had a
(31:19):
knockoff or you tried to makesomething, it wasn't?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I don't think I've ever made anything something
that it shouldn't, and I'm not.
I don't really care about brandnames, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Do you have friends?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Anybody you knew.
No, I don't.
I mean, I think I've had a fakecoach bag before, you know.
Yeah, but now I'm like I don'tknow.
I guess if something lookedlegitimate, I'd probably still
buy it if it was fake, becauseto me it's stupid to buy spend a
(31:52):
lot of money on things and I dohave a lot of purses and purses
I don't use, but never morethan a couple hundred dollars
yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So what about you have friends that you're like
there's no fucking way, that'sreal um, yes, and I'm like, but
I'm like, but where did you getthat right?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
no, I would never ask , you know.
I mean like I'd just be likewhatever, like it's that thing,
it's all materialistic shit itdoes not matter to me.
That doesn't make you as aperson.
I know a lot of people want to,you know, present themselves to
look like they have a lot ofmoney, but in reality, do you
think rich people or people thatare saving their money spend
(32:35):
money on that kind of stuff?
no, actually the wealthy peopleare the ones you would like
never know like seriously, yeah,I mean the bumbiest person can
come in and be the richestfucking man or woman.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, I work at a bank.
So in college, um and that wasthe case I was a specialty
teller, and so the specialtyteller did the um, the boxes,
what are they called?
The safety boxes.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Eight oh um, I know what you're talking about blank,
you know blank.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know what I mean the boxes, you guys know the
main.
Yeah, security boxes, securityboxes.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Whatever, whatever they're called, I can't think of
anything else.
I can't think of the name.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I did like the higher end accounts and stuff
and there would be like a lot oflike old people you know what I
mean that would walk in and youknow they were in the raggedy
stuff.
You know they just held on tothat muumuu forever, you know
like, and that man had thoseslippers with holes forever and
they probably had diamonds intheir box.
Oh my god I like literally wentinto their account and I was
(33:37):
gonna like fall over becausewalking up to my, my window, I
was like there's no way and Iwould look in their account and
I'd go oh my gosh, okay, safetydeposit box.
There we go, exactly.
I was just about to say it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes, safety deposit.
I was waiting for a break.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
So they would come to me, they would have their key
and I have to take them back.
I would go into their account.
They'd make a deposit and Iwould say I'm not gonna say nine
times out of 10, but I woulddefinitely say more than half,
more than half, so 70%, I'll gowith that.
You would look at them and gooh my gosh.
(34:14):
And then you would look at therest of the line and you would
see people that were flashy, youknow, back then, like in a Fila
tracksuit or wearing a Fendibag, and a bad attitude, and
they would be negative, negative$100 in their account.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Right, and I mean, who doesn't like nice things?
Everybody likes nice things,but I think, especially in
today's world, we try so hard tokeep up with the Joneses, right
, like we want to have an image.
But who are we doing that for?
Yeah, for yourself, for otherpeople to think something of you
(34:52):
.
You know what I mean, and a lotof people go broke.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It's an insecurity I think I mean I'll go broke over
vacations all day.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
But as far as materialistic things, I could
give a shit about.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I'm like that I'll go broke over vacations and my
kids, yeah, I'll like.
You know, my daughter going todance killed us.
You know, comp dance was soexpensive it was just like
drained us, right.
But I just knew I was likethese are memories that she's
going to have for life.
And sure enough, I mean, she'sgot freaking Kaylee, who's her
maid of honor, she, kaylee,who's her maid of honor.
She met and danced four yearsold and they're still besties.
(35:25):
That's awesome, right?
So that's so cool.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Any kind of sports, anything like
that one.
It's time and money.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, time and money, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Well, I think that you know.
I have one more question.
Let's talk about our first jobsreal quick.
Last one what was your firstjob?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
I was just talking about this.
Okay, I have one like salty job.
I'm going to say I was salty, Iwas 12.
I should not have been workingwhat the hell I know but I was
like a hustler, I had to be ahustler.
I lost my mom.
Like my mom got sick when I was10, right, so I just had to
(36:12):
figure it out like early on, andI I remembered the name it was
lambert's portrait studio and itwas in fresno and I would call,
cold call and give free eightby tens.
How the hell do you gonna?
Did you know somebody?
I did?
You know somebody?
I did.
Two other high school girls hada job there, and so my friend
in my middle school was that wasone of their sisters, and so
they're like I think they havean opening.
(36:32):
So I'm like I need to work, Ineed my own money.
Like my mom's sick and you know, and I'm not even kidding at
age 12.
Like I was like ahead of thegame, I was very mature.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, I was like ahead of the game, I was very
mature.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, you had to grow up and I was already getting my
nails done.
I told you it was big, longfluorescent nails.
I had to have money for mynails and I would wear LA gears,
were they light ups?
Oh my God, no, they didn'tlight up.
So Lambert's Portrait Studio.
But that was like short-livedbecause, oh my.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
God, you were 12?
.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Oh my God, and your cold calling is awful.
So I did that.
And then my real first job,which is so, so crazy, because
it's weird that you're sayingthis um was at Baskin Robbins.
I was an ice cream scooper, andin Fresno they have three
locations and so we would rotateand work these three locations.
Recently, like two weeks ago, Imet, met campagna like a local
(37:26):
bar restaurant, and coming up tome is a friend of mine and we
had like almost every shifttogether.
His name's eric.
He comes up to me, hey, eric,he's like what the fuck?
And I'm like I didn't recognizehim.
You know, he recognized me, butwe've had a shot on, but he's
not on there very much.
Yeah, I ended up introducing himto my high school friend and
(37:50):
they got together, got married,married 30 years.
Oh, wow, yeah, they're going, Ithink, on a different path now,
hence why he was out atCampania, right, right, but we
were reminiscing about, like mygod remember, we used to scoop
ice cream and so, with thisbeing said, we used to take, of
course, the whipped cream cansand we would go to the vet, like
(38:13):
at the end of the night, wesave the cans, save the cans,
and we would say like 10 cansand we go in the back before
we'd close out, you know, andwe'd hit them like whip it, yeah
, right, yeah, I was 16 yearsold, oh my god, and I worked
there like a year and a half,which is a long time for back
(38:33):
then.
Like a year and a half, yeah,yeah, I was a super scooper man
and then when I got to be a cakedecorator, that was like hell
yeah oh, that's so funny okay somy first job was Papa Murphy's.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Papa Murphy's.
Yeah it was fun.
It was fun especially becauseyou could, like, make pizzas and
take them home like however youwanted.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
It wasn't like no menu you know, yeah, Like
however you wanted, you couldhave like extra, extra, extra
cheese.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yes, yes, oh, my God.
So that was cool few months,because then, you know, I had a
boyfriend, ruined my life.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You've been a man in your life.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I know it's horrible, but we're gonna check your
picker yeah, yeah, I think Ineed a new picker, um, but yeah,
I like, I like that.
But it's funny that you saythat about the cake decorating,
because michaela's been at coldstone for a year and she just
learned how to do cakes and shesent me a picture, um, from work
(39:28):
.
I guess they take Polaroidpictures and they have like a
board that they put people'spictures on when they do certain
things.
And so she's like, look, shesent me the picture and I'm like
, oh, that's so cute she's proudof being a cake decorator so
when you said that I was like ohmy god, she was so happy, you
know yeah, yeah, so pop them.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Or how long did you work there?
Probably?
Three months oh my god, yeahyeah, I was more like I ran the
streets.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I was.
I was a troublemaker.
I was a very troubled teen.
I worked at granny's.
Do you remember granny's?
No, is that like hot cookies orsomething?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
it sounds like miss oh, my god, this is so great.
No, grannies was like they hadfried okra.
Yeah, grannies, now I gottagoogle it, but it was in clovis.
But the only reason I workedthere because, like dude,
minimum wage back then was like,fuck, I don't know.
(40:27):
Three, 50 an hour maybe, butgrannies, you made $4 an hour.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Of course it's like everybody wants to work at
In-N-Out because they pay for it.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
You know, yes, so you made more money.
Yes, grannies, I want, I wantto Google, see if it um the
restaurant.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I think when I started working I was like $7 or
something back then.
But you know, now my daughter,as of April 1st, is making $20
an hour.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
What.
Yeah, because they're waityou're right, yeah, all the fast
foods?
Right, yeah, but they're noteven fast food.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
They're ice cream scoopers.
Oh, but it's because, from whatI understand I don't know if
this is correct but anyfranchise that has 20 or more no
, 60 or more locations has topay that wage, which means they
raise their prices that thatwell, but that means everything
(41:22):
else.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry you guys, I was looking, and
yeah, it's Granny's like soulfood kitchen.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Kitchen see.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I like some soul food .
Yeah, back in the day.
Granny's it's gone, it's done,now Done son yeah.
That's so great, but you knowthat's a whole other topic.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
And actually Nikki would be great to have talking
about this minimum wage increase.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
You know we should talk about today, did bartenders
?
Speaker 1 (41:48):
get that?
I don't think so, becausethey're not franchises, okay, so
just franchise?
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I think so.
Oh, and only in california andonly yeah, only california.
But now everybody's gonna go gowork fast food or they're gonna
start not going and places aregonna close down like they
already have.
Yeah, there has been someplaces Because prices, either
the business owner can't affordthe employees, so have closed
doors or they're going to raiseprices to compensate or be short
(42:12):
staffed and they're not goingto get good service, right.
And then people aren't going togo there, you know right.
And they're going to more, cookfrom home or do whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
I don't think 16, 17-year-oldsneed 18-year-olds need to be
making $20 an hour.
Yeah, no, I don't think soeither.
My daughter blows through hermoney, so I'm trying to talk to
her about starting a Roth.
You know, just trying to investmoney, start young.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Start young and then when you do this, it just makes
everything go up, go up.
So my thought is what?
What?
At some point in life, minimumwage can be $50 an hour, like,
how are you going to reversethis?
There's no way.
It's hard to go back.
You can't if you, if you lookat time, we've never gone back.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
No, my grandparents bought their house for $60,000
and it's worth 2 million.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh my God, where's it at San.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Jose, oh the bay, I mean they don't.
They sold it before it wasworth that.
But I always look it up becauseit's like my childhood home and
two-story huge backyard, southsan jose beautiful neighborhood
and it's I gotta zillow mychildhood.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, everybody should zillow.
Get on your phone, zillow yourchildhood home?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
definitely it's.
It's amazing because thensometimes you see pictures of
how it's upgraded.
Oh, you're like, that was myroom.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I'm like, oh my God, I remember that they took down
my wallpaper, you know the frontyard looks different now or I
don't know, or even maybe thatsame swing is still up, or
something you never know.
Oh, my God, I want to do that,I got look at it.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
So all right, well, let's wrap up this episode.
I know we're missing Nikkitonight, but we were able to
manage.
So with that I'm going to sayRoger, that, Roger, that
everyone.
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