Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity

Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity

Smith Says is a weekly podcast hosted by Smith François, founder of Smith Says International. Each episode empowers entrepreneurs, community leaders, and believers to live with purpose, faith, and passion. From real stories to practical insights, Smith Says helps you build a purposeful life one Monday at a time.

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June 29, 2026 67 mins

In this episode of Smith Says, I sit down with Dr. Tracy Robinson, educator, community leader, and literacy advocate, to discuss one of the biggest challenges facing families today: literacy, fatherhood, and leadership.

Dr. Robinson recently completed his Ph.D. and shares lessons on sacrifice, faith, perseverance, and why reading with your child for just 20 minutes a day can change the trajectory of their life.

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What happens when a young boy grows up in Harlem during the Civil Rights era, learns discipline through competitive cycling in Barbados, and later helps shape the future of Bronzeville in Columbus, Ohio?In this powerful conversation, Willis Brown shares stories from his childhood in Harlem, his family's connection to Malcolm X, the lessons he learned from his parents, and how those experiences prepared him for a lifetime of communi...

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What separates dreamers from builders?In this powerful conversation, James A. White Sr. shares lessons from more than 80 years of life, leadership, military service, business ownership, and personal growth.We discuss:• Why some people stay stuck while others move forward• The difference between surviving and healing• How environment shapes identity• The importance of self-awareness and accountability• Why fear stops people from act...

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What makes Columbus, Ohio unique?In this powerful episode of Purpose Over Popularity, Smith Francois sits down with lifelong Columbus resident, community advocate, and healthcare professional Becca Namaste for an honest conversation about the city's history, growth, diversity, and the importance of community.Becca shares her perspective on:✅ Growing up in Columbus, Ohio✅ How neighborhoods have changed over the years✅ Gentrification...

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In this powerful conversation, we sit down with international Haitian artist and vocalist Shega Haiti right here in Columbus, Ohio. 🇭🇹🎤She shares her journey from Haiti to America, singing in FOUR languages, traveling internationally, and using music to connect cultures, inspire kindness, and represent the Haitian community with pride.We talk about:• Haitian culture and unity• Life in Ohio as an immigrant artist• Music, faith, a...

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What happens when fathers and sons finally sit down and tell the truth?In this powerful conversation, and speak openly about fatherhood, forgiveness, abandonment, healing, rebuilding relationships, and the importance of reclaiming our children and families.From handwritten letters between a father and son to difficult conversations about pain, absence, responsibility, and healing this episode goes deeper than surface-level motivati...

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In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Richard Lundy educator, mentor, author, military veteran, and lifelong advocate for fathers and young men in the Black community.Raised on the east side of Columbus, Ohio, Richard shares stories about growing up during the era when Mount Vernon and Long Street were thriving centers of Black business, culture, and community. From surviving a difficult childhood to serving in the militar...

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DISCLAIMER: Dr. James White is a performance consultant, trainer, and leadership development professional. He is not presenting medical, psychological, or mental health treatment advice. The views expressed in this conversation are educational and based on personal and professional experience.In this powerful conversation, Mr. James A. White shares lessons on self-awareness, emotional intelligence, personal growth, leadership, colo...

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In this powerful conversation, we dive deep into purpose, leadership, AI, relationships, resilience, economics, and community growth.

From celebrating 10K followers organically to discussing the future of work and the importance of self-development, this episode is about building legacy over clout.

We discuss:
• The Resilience Triad
• AI & the changing workforce
• Relationships and communication
• Economic awareness

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In this powerful episode of Purpose Over Popularity, we go deep into real conversations that most people avoid:Why do people hate others they don’t even know?The difference between competition vs. hatredHow society, history, and mindset shape behaviorThe truth about growth, self-awareness, and legacy buildingWhy YOU must focus on becoming your best self in today’s worldThis conversation is more than talk it’s stra...

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From Columbus to the world, this is the anthem behind the movement. Built on faith, vision, and storytelling, this record represents the mission of Smith Says International LLC: turning real stories into impact.

This isn’t about chasing clout.
This is about calling.

Through podcasting, media, and community, we’re giving voices a platform and documenting purpose in real time. Every frame, every word, every moment i...

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In this powerful conversation, we sit down with Mr. Cross a military veteran and former paratrooper to explore what it truly means to live beyond fear.

From intense military training to life lessons on identity, faith, and personal growth, this episode challenges the mental limits that hold many people back.

We discuss:

  • How fear shapes decision making and growth
  • The “mental ceiling” that keeps people playing small
  • Lesson...
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What does it actually take to build a healthy relationship in today’s world?

In this deep and unfiltered conversation, we sit down with Mr. White to break down the real foundation of relationships starting with YOU.

We go beyond surface level dating advice and dive into:

  • Why self-awareness is the key to every relationship
  • The truth about financial roles in modern dating
  • How historical and systemic issues impact family str...
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This episode is personal.

Back in May 2010, everything changed.
A phone. A camera. A connection to social media.

That moment sparked a journey that led to everything I’m building today. 

In this conversation, I sit down with Chicago Zoe someone who played a major role in my story. From putting me on Facebook to showing me how to connect, promote, and move with purpose… this is a full circle moment.

We talk about:

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Can you really grow your hair using ingredients from your kitchen?

In this episode, I sit down with Na’imah Campbell, founder of The Hair Chef, to talk about natural hair care, entrepreneurship, and teaching communities how to care for their hair using everyday ingredients.

From starting a business in college to educating youth through hands-on workshops, Na’imah is building something powerful at the intersection of&...

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In this episode of the Smith Says Podcast, Smith Francois sits down with EL-Roi, a Chicago-born artist now based in Ohio.

EL-Roi is a producer, rapper, and creative who blends hip hop, jazz influences, and real life experiences into his music. In this conversation, he shares his journey from learning piano at a young age to developing his own sound and releasing new music.

We talk about creativity, travel, anime culture, so...

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In this conversation I sit down with Bob Cross a man whose life spans segregation era Kentucky the US Army life on the road and a powerful faith journey that led him to ministry and family

Bob shares what it was like growing up under Jim Crow only miles from Tennessee how the Emmett Till tragedy shaped fear and awareness for Black boys in the South why sharecropping felt like slavery by another name and how community education music...

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n this episode of Smith Says: Purpose Over Popularity, Dr. James A. White Sr. joins Smith for a direct, unfiltered conversation no dodging hard questions and no soft answers.

Dr. White breaks down why free speech and tough dialogue are essential in a democratic society. Then we go deeper into America’s foundation: settlement, enslavement, labor, wealth, and power.

This episode tackles:

• Why free speech requires accountabil...

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In this episode, I’m back with Dr. White (James A. White Sr.) for a real check-in that turns into a powerful conversation about AI, justice, and what it means to participate in change.

Dr. White breaks down Dr. King’s idea that the moral arc “bends toward justice” and explains the missing piece: the arc doesn’t bend unless we reach up and pull it. He shares a simple framework to...

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Both my parents were born in Haiti.
I was born in Chicago.
Black. Haitian. American.
And often told I don’t fully fit anywhere.

In this conversation, I share my journey of faith over fear, identity, and purpose—from being the “first” in many spaces to building a life and business rooted in creation, service, and truth.

We talk about:

  • Living between cultures and carrying multiple identitie...

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