November 12, 2025 • 44 mins
We sit down with our friend Maria to talk about her nursing career and her experience working everywhere from the ICU, to VIP medical-surgical care, to labor and delivery, to aesthetics. We hear about the pros and cons of those roles, common misconceptions about aesthetic procedures like botox and filler, and why it's more important than ever to support women's health initiatives and local labor and delivery units. We also learn about how she turned her passion for photography into a full-fledged business, and what advice she'd give to someone looking to go out on their own. We end with a little talk about motherhood and, of course, Taylor Swift. We hope everyone is as empowered to go for their goals and chase their passions as we were after sitting down with Maria.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Ready?
Ready.
SPEAKER_03 (00:03):
Hey everyone.
Welcome back to the latestepisode of Snitchen.
It's your host, Kristen.
SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
And Brittany, get ready for the best part of your
day.
SPEAKER_03 (00:11):
It's Wednesday.
You know what that means.
We're back with a guest episode,and we are so excited to have
this guest with us.
Um, she is our one of ourfavorite nurses in our lives.
Uh, the one and only Miss Maria.
Welcome to the pod.
Yay.
SPEAKER_00 (00:29):
I know I never realized how many nurses are
actually in our group offriends.
It's kind of crazy.
I know, right?
SPEAKER_03 (00:35):
We do have a good amount.
Um, but yes, nursing issomething that we are going to
be talking about a lot thisepisode.
Maria is a nurse at NewportHospital, labor and delivery
nurse for what about a year now?
Yep, about a year.
But I feel like you've lived amillion nursing lives.
So we're gonna get into all ofthat.
(00:57):
Um, she also is someone whostarted out on her own career
path with a photographybusiness.
I'm really curious to hear aboutthat journey.
And she's also a mom to such acute little nugget two-year-old
named Mac.
Um, so we're gonna talk a littlebit about motherhood as well.
But first, I was just saying toMaria before we came on here,
(01:20):
Britt, I can't remember likewhen we first met.
SPEAKER_00 (01:24):
Yeah, I honestly can't either.
A while ago.
It was like around 20.
We've almost known each otherfor like 15 years now.
Because I'm not one of the OG.
I got adopted into the Cantoncircle, luckily, but I am not
from Canton.
I'm from We're very welcoming, Iwould say.
SPEAKER_03 (01:41):
Yeah, yeah.
Where are you from?
Like, what's your background?
Let's get a little intro.
SPEAKER_00 (01:45):
Yeah, so I'm from West Roxbury.
I grew up there, which is likeright next to Dedham,
technically a part of Boston.
Um, so I went to high school inDorchester, then went to college
in Salem, then I got a job as atech while I was in nursing
school in the ICU at MGH, andthat's where I met Casey, our
friend.
(02:06):
Our birthdays were only about amonth apart, and we had both um
just turned 21, I think thatpast fall.
And I basically bullied her intobeing my friend.
I was like, no, we're going outafter work.
Like we would work 7 a.m.
to 7 p.m.
I'd be like, let's go out.
Um, and I think we would likemeet up with you guys.
Um, I know there were a coupletimes we were out in like
(02:26):
Brighton and stuff.
I can't remember that bar thatwould play like do all like the
90s stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (02:31):
Oh, common ground?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:34):
Shout out to those were like really fun nights that
I remember with you guys.
So I think that's pretty muchwhere it all started.
And then when she had met Colby,um, she said, Well, which friend
would be crazy enough to gocamping with me and a bunch of
guys that we're gonna do.
Oh, I remember this.
And it was me.
Yes, I was the choice, which shewas right.
(02:57):
We went.
And remember, that started aslike, you know, probably 10 of
us, and then it grew to what3540 by the end by the time we
stopped doing it.
So that was wild.
SPEAKER_03 (03:08):
You know what?
Now that we're talking about it,the Sacco camping trips, that
actually might be one of myfirst early memories of you,
Maria, because the camping tripwas so much fun.
So for anyone who doesn't know,you go up to this place Saco in
Maine and you camp there, butthey also have this river that
you canoe down.
It's an all-day event, you know,you're out there for the day,
(03:28):
super, super fun.
And I remember Maria shows up,and maybe we should set the
stage too.
Like 10 years ago, me, your girlwasn't like bringing anything to
the table.
Like I was bringing my alcoholand that's about it.
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
Actually, if it wasn't me, I think you would
have been the person that wouldhave been like totally cool with
going camping with a bunch ofpeople you didn't know, though.
Like, I have to give that toyou.
SPEAKER_03 (03:48):
You'll just do whatever.
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean bringing to the tablelike actual physical goods.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
No, I like you brought that.
If Casey asked me to go to acamping trip with people I don't
know, I would be like, hellfucking no.
SPEAKER_00 (04:02):
Like, we were real good friends.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
Yeah, that's a favor.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:07):
Camping is married, so we'll take it.
SPEAKER_03 (04:10):
Yeah, I guess it worked out.
But you showed up with liketequila infused watermelon, like
baggies for everyone.
She I remember being like, thisgirl is gonna be the best soccer
mom that's ever existed.
Like, she's got you know,snacks, water bottles, like
anything you need, Maria had it.
SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
And that was my going for a couple years.
True.
So I already knew like how wehad nothing when we were there.
I think was it like because ithad started with just like a
just me and Casey and the guys.
SPEAKER_01 (04:41):
Still, though, I feel like you're like one of the
best guests to bring on a trip.
Thanks.
That guac you make top notch.
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (04:48):
Oh my god, you brought guac.
Yes, yes, Casey.
SPEAKER_00 (04:51):
I was always every time I went to a cant thing, I
always had to bring guac.
It was like unspoken rule.
SPEAKER_03 (04:58):
But I I mean, I do think in general, I in my mind
you're a very prepared gal,which I admire about you.
And I'm curious if, you know, Idon't know.
I feel like nurses in generalare like pretty on their stuff.
Um, so let's take it back.
Like, what starting with yournursing career, like what made
you want to be a nurse in thefirst place?
Do you remember?
(05:19):
Was it something that you alwayswere curious about?
SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
My aunt's a nurse, so I think it was kind of like
always in the family.
My mom had wanted to become anurse, but was a social worker
instead.
She didn't think she could passsome of the classes.
So I think it was kind of justalways in the back of my head.
But my I don't know if you guysknow this, but my mom has MS.
Oh, I didn't know that.
And like you would never knownow.
It's in remission, it's been inremission for a long time.
(05:41):
But she got diagnosed when I waseight.
Um so I think just and she wassick for a while.
We went to St.
Catharines actually at the time.
So we were in Norwood.
But we were my brother-in-lawwent there.
Oh, that's funny.
That's weird.
We would have like depending onthe day of the week, like
somebody else would bring ushome from school.
Like it was like whicheverfamily.
So it was like very like my momwas in and out of the hospital,
(06:03):
that kind of stuff.
I don't really remember being inthe hospital with her, but then
I think that just kind of likeset me on the track of like
caregiver type of a thing.
And when I was gonna go tocollege, I was deciding between
like nursing, photography, andculinary.
Those are like the three thingsthat I wanted to do.
And my parents were like, Well,go to nursing school, you can
(06:24):
always like yeah get a realdegree.
Not that and like I'm like now.
I'm looking back, I'm like,those other things are real,
like right now get a culinarydegree, but they're like, get a
real quote unquote real job, andthen you can do those other
things after.
Looking back, I would have neverpassed.
Um I can't draw, I can't doother artistic things, so I'm
glad I didn't try to go to artschool.
But yeah, I don't really knowwhat else I would have done.
SPEAKER_01 (06:46):
Nursing is like, I think the best job.
I mean, I cannot be a nursebecause I suck at science and I
hate seeing blood and gore andall that.
But I, if it wasn't for that,like a nurse is the best job,
like being on your feet all day,you have different hours, you're
helping people.
SPEAKER_00 (07:01):
Unfortunately, now, like, and you like Brit, I'm
sure you know, like mom's beenmore than dads a lot of the
time.
Sorry, guys, but like myschedule is a lot more flexible
than my husband's.
He works Monday through Friday,8 to 4:30.
So I'm working a weekend shiftto offset like our child care
type of thing, or I'm the onewho thinks so it has its perks
for sure.
Yeah, because like I used to riplike six shifts shifts in a row
(07:24):
and then go on vacation and nottake any time off.
So, like when I was younger andfun.
SPEAKER_01 (07:28):
So but like nice that you can do that, you know,
you have that option, yeah, forsure.
SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
And for me with nursing, as long as it's not
happening to me, I'm totallyfine.
I'm a terrible patient, so likeI pass out when I have my blood
drawn, stuff like that.
Oh wow, but I can take yourblood, put an IV in notebook.
That's so weird, yeah.
It's almost like I know toomuch, and that's yeah, I guess
that that that's true.
SPEAKER_03 (07:51):
So you said you started as a tech at MGH, yeah,
and the trauma transplant ICUwith Casey.
What was your because likeyou've been in some different
departments, so like where haveyou worked, I guess, and what
different roles have you been inas a so I left there because I
didn't want to be an ICU nurse.
SPEAKER_00 (08:07):
Um, and that was kind of like the only option
because I had worked in the ICU,nobody, no other floor.
Every floor was kind of hiringtheir own PCAs, their own aides.
I had worked on that floor and Ididn't want to be in the ICU.
I left and went to Good Sam inBrockton.
Um, so they took 25 of us, newgrads, and made us the float
(08:27):
pool, which was actually insane.
You'd walk like Melissa said,you walk in and they tell you
where to go for the day.
SPEAKER_03 (08:33):
Yeah, that's kind of crazy, like to not really know.
SPEAKER_00 (08:36):
They had trained us for like a couple months and was
like, good luck.
Like when you walked in.
So like I learned a lot, butlooking back, I was like, that
was crazy.
So I lasted there for a year,and then I had always wanted to
live in Florida.
And actually, when I was incollege, I wanted to transfer
like my sophomore year, andschool told me that my credits
wouldn't transfer and just to goafter.
(08:59):
So I went to Florida for acouple years and lived in
Deerfield Beach and worked inBoca Ratone.
I forgot you lived in Florida,doesn't suck.
Yeah, jealous.
I've lived a hundred lives, Ifeel like you have.
Then I was just kind of over it.
I always say that people were asfake as their body parts down
there.
If you didn't go to high schoolor college with people, it was
(09:20):
really hard to make friends.
I was like 24, 25 at the time,and people really had like
established friend groups.
And my cousin lives there and itwas great, but like she was
going, she had two almost threekids, so she was hanging out
with like all of her momfriends, and I just wasn't
there.
So I got a job again at back atMGH and worked in the Phillips
house, which is like their VIPkind of medical surgical unit.
(09:42):
Oh, any celebs?
Um, yeah, there was like some uhlike Celtics, Patriots players.
We would either have like peoplewho paid extra to stay there for
the night, so people would comefrom Zaudi and pay for like
extra.
They come in with like literalsuitcases full of cash and have
to like and we'd be dischargingto the Liberty Hotel for their
(10:03):
extra PT kind of stay thing.
SPEAKER_03 (10:05):
Or that's kind of crazy.
Like you forget, I think some ofthe th one of the things that we
forget living here and justgrowing up with such great
health care is that MGH is oneof the most like world-renowned
hospitals, you know.
Not I mean, definitely in thecountry, but when you're saying
people are coming from Saudi,like in the world.
So that's a really like uniqueposition kind of to be in to
have these VIPs who are comingfor this care.
(10:28):
Do you I mean, did you ever likedid you ever forget that working
there?
Or were people always highlyaware that that's the standard
that everyone's held to?
SPEAKER_00 (10:35):
Everybody's held to that standard, but I think some
of the nurses that I worked withlike would forget how good we
had it as nurses almost becauseI had worked in Brockton, we had
five to one ratios.
And then in Florida, we hadseven to one ratios.
SPEAKER_03 (10:50):
And just to clarify, seven patients to one nurse.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
That's a lot.
Dang.
And then after six months inFlorida, because I had the most
experience with a year and ahalf, which was crazy.
I was in charge of 42 beds.
Like on two beds.
Like I was the charge nurse incharge of everybody, like who's
coming, who's going.
There's all these problems Ihave to solve, like all this
stuff all day long.
So I come back to Mass General,and the ratios on the floor I
(11:15):
was on at night was five to one.
Evenings was in days was liketwo to one, three to one.
And people, oh, I'm so busy.
I'm so like blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, you don't evenknow what busy is.
Like, I know who my patients areright now.
I'm able to actually have aconversation with them, connect
with them.
Yeah.
(11:38):
You're like, you know, I neverreally lost that perspective,
but I and like everybody's heldto that high standard.
But I think sometimes peoplewill be like, like lose sight of
how good you are to care forpeople and actually be able to
care for them.
SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
Yeah, totally.
That's pretty unique though, tohave like a VIP um role.
And so then after that, how whatdid you do from there?
SPEAKER_00 (12:00):
Well, it was either VIP or we had the people like,
and I would feel bad.
We also had like people from thejail.
Oh, because they needed asecurity guard with them all the
time from the jail.
Um and like they were handcuffedto the bed.
Or like we would have people whoneeded a private room because
they like had every single bugever, like all the letters type
(12:21):
of things that like they neededto take on precautions, and we
were like discharging to thestreets.
So, like sometimes it was it waslike either the top or the
bottom, and sometimes in themiddle, and it was definitely a
good variety of everything.
SPEAKER_03 (12:34):
I do think I that's one thing that's surprising to
hear is like I mean, I thinkBritt from you and I, like
corporate backgrounds, right?
We go into our day knowingexactly like what meetings you
have, kind of what you need toprep for.
I think it's kind of create likeunique about a nursing role if
you are a floater and youliterally don't know what you're
gonna be dealing with that day.
But then also just yeah, likethe variety of patients.
(12:55):
That's I think that's somethingI would enjoy.
Because I think that's somethingthat corporate life can get
that's like a neg a little bit,is that, or at least in the
roles I've had, it can be alittle monotonous.
Did you like that?
Like having that variety.
SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
Yeah, there were definitely like I liked surgical
patients more than medicalpatients.
Obviously, I'm not gonna treatanybody differently, but like
there's just things I likedmore.
So if my assignment was a littlebit more surgical, background
heavy on the patients, like Iwas a little more happy.
If we were like doing 101 meds,I was like, oh man, but you
know, it's fine.
You just have to know a lot,like it all at the same time.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:28):
Um, but then I had met John, my now husband, and he
lived in Rhode Island.
So I took a job outpatient herein Rhode Island, which I now
live in Rhode Island, and I tookan outpatient job at a primary
care doctor's office because Ididn't want to go back to night
shift.
(13:49):
And I hated it because it was nopatient care.
I was sitting in like an officewith a headset on and everybody
was calling me.
Oh yeah.
You know, when you call yourdoctor's office and you I was
triaging, you have to like talkto the nurse.
SPEAKER_01 (14:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (14:01):
The nurse calls you back.
Yeah.
A lot of it turned intoeverybody yelling at me that
their like Adderall prescriptionwasn't filled, but they didn't
call me last week when it wasalmost out, and just stuff like
that.
That I was like, I'm just sickand tired of being yelled at.
So with COVID, um, it was a lotof the same thing over and over
(14:21):
again.
So that obviously started inMarch, and I quit in July.
I was like, I can't do thisanymore.
SPEAKER_02 (14:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (14:28):
And I didn't really know what I wanted to do.
I quit.
John wasn't really super happywith that because I didn't
really ask him.
I just kind of was like, Well,it's your life.
Bye.
Yeah, but I had I had sold atlike my multifamily house, and I
was like, Yeah, I'm done.
I'm gonna figure this out.
So I started my photographycompany then in 2020.
SPEAKER_03 (14:47):
Oh, in 2020.
Okay.
I mean, good for you, Glenn.
We our girl Glenn would be soproud.
She would untamed.
You listen to your knowing.
Yes.
So you like it too.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
A lot of that, like I was meditating a lot at the
time.
I was doing a lot of like thosetypes of things, and I was like,
what am I doing?
I don't want to be a nurseanymore.
I'm never going to be a nurseany and ever again.
I need to recreate myself fully.
SPEAKER_01 (15:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:16):
So I like basically jumped off the cliff and was
like, whatever happens.
I am very much a person that'slike, it'll work out.
I don't know how.
And it drives my husband crazybecause he likes to know exactly
how things are gonna work out,even though I'm a little more
type A, but so brave.
SPEAKER_03 (15:32):
I also feel like you know, what you were saying
before, like with your parents,you know, not wanting you to go
to art school and getting thenursing degree, get the quote
unquote real degree.
That's very much like the timein which we grew up, right?
Where you kind of are drilledin, it's drilled into you to get
the job and you know, kind offollow the rules, follow the
path.
So I think that's something thatlike internally you'd probably
be battling anyway, to likechange course and jump ship.
(15:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:54):
You know, um, and I had I had had that food blog for
a second when I lived inFlorida.
And so I did the food, I I thinkI did all the things that I set
out originally to do.
I didn't go to culinary school,but I explored the food food
world a little bit that way.
And then yeah.
So I did my photographybusiness, which was fine.
(16:14):
Honestly, like I think one ofyour questions was like, what
would you tell people that wantto start their own business?
It's like keep your day job orlike have something else while
you're building it.
You need to be also like havingan income.
So I nanied for a little bit.
It just like was enough to paysome bills and then I could work
on this.
But it was, I think I startedlike October-ish.
(16:36):
And the funniest part is is likemy busiest season is probably
now, like August to November.
Like, you're not gonna Ibasically started in the middle,
like I started building stuffthrough the spring and then
really started.
But luckily, I had linked upwith a contact of like John's
friend's sister, was this greatphotographer in the area, and
(16:58):
she had a second shooter at thetime.
And then so I DM'd her and waslike, Hey, if you ever need a
second shooter, because that'sreally how you get experience
with photography.
A lot of the time you link upwith like another photographer
mentor type of thing.
And she finally had like anopening, had gotten rid of her
second shooter in like January.
So then I was able to luckily,like only three, four months
(17:21):
into it, link up with her.
Nice.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:25):
That's a good first step.
I I forgot about secondshooters.
So if yeah, just like if you'reat a wedding, there's if there's
two photographers, there's theone who's like the main you
know, point of contact.
And then second shooters arewhat doing like a lot of like
candids, like just whateveryou're basically told to shoot.
SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
We usually go and like we'll split up and I'll do
the groom prep and she'll bewith the bride for the beginning
part of the day.
SPEAKER_01 (17:48):
Second is always with the groom.
unknown (17:49):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (17:51):
I'm good at wrangling the guys together.
So usually that, and then I'llmeet up with her for formals and
get candids during those.
The ceremony, I'm just shootingwherever she's not.
The main goal is to likebasically give a lot of variety
throughout the album fromdifferent perspectives.
I try to tackle a lot of likecocktail hour for her so she can
take a break.
But that's how like she and Iwork.
(18:11):
We've been working together fora while.
Oh, I didn't know so.
You still do weddings?
Just with her.
I don't I only do like familyand newborn and maternity stuff
on my own now because I justthat's too much editing for
weddings.
Um, interesting.
But I just I'll do a couple withher a year.
SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
Any like Bradzilla's bad stories?
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
Oh, it was one girl at Castle Hill in 2021 where it
was like May, it was like this,honestly, it was freezing
outside.
Everybody's sitting outsidewaiting.
She made the makeup artist redoher makeup like four times, and
everybody's sitting outside.
Oh my god.
And then she came up to meduring it and she's like, Do you
have a needle and thread?
(18:49):
And I was like, No, why?
And she and I'm not a weddingplanner, like you should be
asking your wedding planner.
Yeah.
And she's like, I ripped mydress and I look at it, it's
tool.
I was like, Ain't happening.
I go, Do you have a second lookyou'd like to change into?
SPEAKER_01 (19:04):
Yeah, you're like, I don't know, you're asking the
wrong person here.
SPEAKER_03 (19:07):
But I'm also like trying to like I knew she was
nuts, so I was like, Weddingsmust be tough just because of
the pressure of the day.
I mean, that's what I wouldimagine.
And I'm sure, yeah, there's somepeople that are you can't redo
it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:20):
Like, that's what I like, at least with family
photos.
If something if something'scrazy or if I lose the files or
something, which I always likedouble up on the files, so I
never do, but you can alwaysredo those, right?
So even if it's a week later andI contacted you was like, I'm so
sorry, we need to redo these.
Totally, my bad.
You could put the same outfitson, we could go to the same
place.
Yeah, totally.
(19:41):
You can't redo a wedding.
unknown (19:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:43):
But like I wouldn't sleep well before being the
primary shooter.
I'm just like, I'm just gonnasecond shoot them.
Cause I still like loveweddings.
I love love, like that kind ofstuff, and it's nice.
SPEAKER_03 (19:53):
So um, I like what you said about like so piece of
advice, you know, make sure thatyou keep your day job, have a
stream of income while youpursue this.
What would you say was thehardest part about really
getting your business off theground or like maybe something
you didn't expect?
If someone is going out anddoing something along these
lines and starting their own umbusiness, like what was the
hardest thing that you had tokind of handle?
SPEAKER_00 (20:15):
Two things.
One would have been getting yourclients.
I'm not from here, so I don'thave a lot of like contacts, but
luckily my husband is from here,so he did post a lot for me.
So a lot of his the people hewent to high school with um and
stuff like that would hire me.
And just like knowing yourworth, I was not very confident
(20:36):
in some of my like editingstyles and stuff like that,
which you find your way, butthen like pricing yourself
adequately with that is hard todo because you you're like,
Well, is are people gonna wantto pay for that?
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
Do pe do you so do you really edit that much?
Yeah, I have like six.
That's what I have to do afterthis.
I have like six or seven albumsI need to get out.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:58):
Oh, what do you so what do you just like take out
red eye and stuff?
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
No, so I actually like will adjust the colors and
stuff like that.
Um, and like delete bad ones,balance, exposure, contrast,
like all of that stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
I feel like photography is a job that looks
so easy, but it's probablyreally not.
Yeah, even like the shooting,you know.
SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
The shooting itself, I think now that I have a
toddler, I can relate a lot moreto the moms because I used to
leave and they'd be like, Oh mygod, that was so horrible.
I'm like, I have great, I cansee right here, I have great
photos.
What are they talking about?
But now after doing some shootswith my own toddler and be like,
that was a disaster.
Yeah.
They always come out great.
I'm like, I totally get whereyou're coming from.
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It's totally fine.
Just need a couple.
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
I feel like that's one of the things, and it was a
similar theme we had with Owenwhen he was talking about real
estate.
It's like the actual job in andof itself, shooting, editing,
all of that is one thing.
But when you are, you know,building your book of business,
it's a whole different level ofskill set, like, or not level,
but it's just a different skillset, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (21:59):
And knowing who's not your client.
So what do you mean?
Like just people you're notvibing with people that don't
you can tell kind of at thebeginning.
I'm sure it's the same in realestate, like you're kind of not
lining up on things and being alittle more difficult than it
needs to be.
Set them free.
They're not your client, there'sclients for everybody.
Somebody else comes around.
SPEAKER_01 (22:20):
So do you feel like so?
I feel like Owen says that likehe gets more nervous when he has
like his friends, when he's likethe realtor for his friends.
Like, do you feel like that?
If you're like shooting yourfriends, is that like more
nerve-wracking or like less Iwould think less because I know
they're kids, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:33):
You know, like for me, I'm like I can be a little
more personable with their kids.
Yeah.
Like I shoot, I'll shoot Mikeand Jules like yearly, usually,
and that's easy with the girls.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:43):
What is the most rewarding thing about the
photography business?
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
I'd say like preserving some childhood a lot
of the times, or like when we doextended extended family photos,
the grandparents, like I'mgiving you kind of a legacy,
right?
So you're gonna look back atthese photos forever.
Or, you know, you're gonnaremember this time with your
grandparents, or you know, Ihate to say, like a lot of the
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times at weddings, I'll be like,you know, I always make sure I
get extra grandma and grandpaand stuff like that.
I think with the nursing too,I'm like definitely aware of
like mortality and stuff likethat, and that things can
change.
So I actually over-deliver a lotbecause I'm like, I'm not gonna,
your kids running around.
I took a bunch of candid photos,I'm not gonna gatekeep their
childhood.
Here's like all the photos, youknow, like it's easy for me.
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People, you know, I guarantee 60photos.
I usually give a hundred becauseI'm like, whatever.
If your eyes are open, you'regetting them.
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_03 (23:38):
So I like that mentality.
Like, if I have the photos,might as well, you know, give
them to you to use.
They're gonna be more valuablefor you.
And I do love that about I mean,I'm a huge photo person.
I have photos all over my house.
I do photo books every year.
Um, just for me personally.
I love what you're saying aboutpreserving a family's memories
and their childhood.
That's really special.
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Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
But you remember at the bar, I'd always be like,
let's take a picture.
So that's great.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
I need people like that around me.
Every year, my New Year'sresolution is to take more
pictures.
It never happens.
SPEAKER_03 (24:10):
Wait, can we tangent?
Britt, do you remember this?
I love the story about Brittany.
I do take a lot of photos and Ialways would say to Britt, I'd
be like, It's for the memories,Britt.
It's not for like the gram orwhatever.
So we're in Vienna and she'slike really getting behind this
idea.
She's like, Yeah, we need topreserve the memories.
We need to preserve thememories.
Ria, I swear to God, every timeI would take a photo, Brittany
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would whip out her photo andtake her phone and take the same
exact photo.
She'd be like, Oh yeah, photo,take the same exact photo.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
Have you ever heard of a shared album?
Well, no.
So but then we would do a sharedalbum and it would be like two
in a row of the same picture.
Just like literally the sameexact pictures.
SPEAKER_03 (24:45):
She would never do it on her own, like only when I
would take my phone out.
Just don't think of it.
No, you really don't.
SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
Oh my god, you should.
SPEAKER_03 (24:52):
I have so many photos on my phone.
That's funny.
Um so okay, so definitelycovered the photo business.
And obviously, like we said, allof your different experiences as
a nurse, but we haven't reallytackled your kind of third, I
guess, area of expertise.
You were also an aestheticnurse.
And Brittany and I actually wentto you for Botox, where you
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administered to us before.
So when was this in all of youknow, started the business for
photography 2020?
When did you, you know, go intothat field?
SPEAKER_00 (25:24):
So I gotten certified actually with Jules um
in like 2019.
I didn't know what it was gonnatake to get into the field, but
I was like, this is fun, I wantto do this.
So we got certified and then weboth kind of hung out without
jobs in it for a while.
Because unless you know an ownerof a med spa as an RN, you can't
go out on your own and do it.
You have to work under an NP oran MD, depending on like state
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laws.
SPEAKER_03 (25:48):
Do you have to put in certain hours?
Like, how's that tracked?
SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
No, you just have to be hired by them.
So you work under them.
So you have to have like that,you work under their orders.
So you have to have like anordering provider.
Okay, got it.
And when I had this kind ofcontinues along my nursing life,
um, when I left outpatient,started photography, nanied,
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then in like I want to sayNovember-ish of 2020, I linked
up with a NP who I actually usedto do primary care with.
I like cold emailed her and waslike, listen, I used to work
with you in primary care.
Like, you know, I'm a goodnurse.
Can I work at your med spa?
You're so brave.
SPEAKER_03 (26:27):
I she's such a hustler.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
The worst thing people can say is no, whatever.
Like you never see the peopleagain then.
It's true.
SPEAKER_03 (26:33):
No, if people are taking something away from this
episode, like what I'm takingaway is just like go for it.
Like, what's the worst that canhappen?
You'll figure it out.
SPEAKER_00 (26:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:42):
Right.
Maria, you're a badass.
Okay, sorry, keep going.
SPEAKER_00 (26:45):
So then she turned out to be like a really terrible
person, but I'm not gonna getinto that.
So but I worked for her forthree years, um doing Botox,
fillers, lasers.
Um, and I really liked itbecause you were just kind of
like building on somebody'sconfidence.
Uh I would hate to see likepeople.
There were some people whodefinitely came with some eye
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dysmorphia, which was superhard, and I'd have to like be
like, no, I'm not doing any morefiller on you.
Oh, because they wanted toomuch.
You can say that me, you don'tthink that I'm like overfilled
or have anything in my face.
And like I would always say thatlike nobody should know you come
to me unless you want them to.
Like, your my face, your faceshouldn't be the calling card
that like, ooh, that was greatbecause it definitely like
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instilled some people'sconfidence after like some laser
treatments or a little botox,and they were feeling great
about themselves.
So, like, I'm happy to helpeverybody with that.
So, but after I had Mac, I justkind of realized I wasn't like
lining up with kind of themorals and stuff of the woman I
worked with.
So then I left there and didn'tmuch to again John's chagrin, I
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didn't work for a while.
And then he told me I had to goback to work, and I was like,
Are you sure?
And I'm so glad I did because Iwas definitely going crazy, like
being home all the time.
I definitely should always havea part-time job, and that's just
me, to be able to go and talk toadults and help people.
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So I said, you know, in nursingschool I always wanted to be a
labor and delivery nurse, andI'd always changed hospitals
instead of changing into that.
And at the time when I was a newgrad, you had to work within a
hospital to be to then move to aspecialty, which you know, ICU,
um, labor and delivery, justthose kinds of things that
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people wanted to be in.
Now you don't have to do that,they need nurses everywhere.
So I applied to Newport Hospitaland to Women and Infants because
they were close to me, and I gotboth jobs.
So I chose um Newport becausethey're LDRP, which is labor
delivery, postpartum recovery.
So we do it all.
Wow, interesting.
So like I had Mac at Women andInfants, and probably the same
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as you, Britt.
Um, you have your baby, then yougo to postpartum.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (28:59):
Yeah, it's different nurses and everything.
SPEAKER_00 (29:00):
Yeah.
Yeah, no, we keep everybody,which I actually love.
So that's part of the like youwalk into different things every
day.
Like I Sunday I had a patientwho we labored and she had her
baby, and then the next day Igot to keep her, and then I
picked up another two postpartumpatients, and I had postpartum
for the day.
SPEAKER_01 (29:18):
And like then you get to work with the babies
because I remember like thepostpartum nurses saying that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:23):
Right.
So I don't think I would lovejust doing one or the other.
SPEAKER_03 (29:28):
Well, it seems like you kind of said before, too,
like variety is something thatyou like in your job.
So I could see why that, youknow, would be like attractive.
SPEAKER_02 (29:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (29:38):
Um, can we go back to the aesthetic for a second?
I am curious.
Well, first off, what you said,uh, and I think Britt, you said
it like I didn't even realizethat you were allowed to really
deny a patient from additionaltreatment if you felt like it
wasn't, you know, good for them,if they have too much stuff in
their face already.
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
Um a lot of it that I would say no to was like Extra
lip filler.
And if if you can tell thattheir filler is like coming
outside of the border theirlips, that's like a
contraindicated.
SPEAKER_02 (30:07):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
Yeah.
So there's like medical reasonas to why, because the filler's
gonna migrate into your out ofthe space and into your yeah.
So like if you could tell it waslike medically not indicated
because of like there was gonnabe problems if you did it.
You know, you're over youroverfilling cheeks and you're
stretching, stretching,stretching, there can be a lot
of problems like with laxity andstuff like that after for anyone
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who's listening, me andBrittany's face right now, like
if it we're it's very muchconfirmed we could never do
anything like this because wecan't even handle that.
SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
Yeah.
Um is there like besides well, Imean, I guess besides that a
little bit, but like any umsingle biggest misconception
that you encounter with peoplewho are looking for Botox, like,
or just something that maybepeople aren't aware of if they
want to get that done?
SPEAKER_00 (30:56):
Probably the biggest misconception is that you like
look crazy after.
SPEAKER_03 (30:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (31:00):
So you should go to an injector that you like the
look of their face.
So if you see somebody who'ssuper overfilled, super tight,
their eyebrows are really crazyand you don't want that look,
then don't go to them.
SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
Yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (31:17):
It's really like an it's kind of an art, right?
Like crafting somebody's face.
Yeah.
And if that's the way that theirpainting and art is, then that's
how they're gonna paint on you.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:30):
If that's what they think looks good, I have the
same rule often withhairstylists.
If there's a hairstylist whereI'm like, oh, their hair looks
maybe a little bleached or alittle broken, probably not
gonna be someone I go back to.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (31:44):
Yeah, same idea.
I just think the other thing isthat you have to like go all in
and go all the time and all thestuff.
Like you can, you know, I in my20s I got it twice a year.
In my 30s, you know, I get itsometimes twice a year.
It's just from I'm trying toprevent the static lines from
forming on my forehead.
I'm fine with having wrinkles, Ijust don't want those deep set
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lines.
Yeah, so if I do it twice a yearto prevent instead of I'm really
going for a frozen look, yeah.
I think it can be used asprevention as opposed to like
these treatments that people aredoing.
That's how I get the facelooking super tight and plastic.
I do it twice a year, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:25):
I only did it the one time that we went down.
I would totally do it again.
I just honestly haven't reallythought much about it.
But um, I think the thing thatsurprised me the most, kind of
to your point, about like Ithink I I thought it was a
bigger deal than it was.
I was shocked at how quick thewhole thing is.
SPEAKER_00 (32:43):
And then it wears off.
Like it can be temporary.
You do it once, it's like you'renot committed to the bit, like
it it wears off.
SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
Yeah, I feel like in general, the whole kind of um
reputation of Botox has changedin the last 10 to 15 years.
I think before, maybe like 15years ago when people did it.
I mean, it was just less common,I think.
Do you think that's likeaccurate?
I feel like now most people Iknow do do that, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (33:07):
I'm telling you, I think it's from Zoom.
I think it's from people lookingat themselves on the yeah.
Yeah, I believe that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:12):
From Zoom, I knew it.
SPEAKER_00 (33:13):
Yeah, I have to stare at myself.
I had a lot of that in 2020,2021.
SPEAKER_03 (33:18):
Oh my god, totally.
Totally, totally.
SPEAKER_00 (33:21):
I can't believe this is the way my face looks.
And I'm like, what do you youwhat do you mean?
SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
Yeah, no, that's a great call.
Um, just another COVID outcome.
SPEAKER_01 (33:31):
Yeah, for sure.
Like, what else is an aestheticwhat is it called?
Uh aesthetic?
Aesthetic nerve.
Like what else do you do besidesBotox?
SPEAKER_00 (33:39):
Um, lasers, so laser hair removal or pigment removal
on your face.
I need the neck chest, stufflike that.
Um we would do a lot of microneedling.
Oh, like the that's like theeyebrows, right?
Yeah.
Well, no, that's micro-bleeding.
I don't do that's like no microneedling is like a collagen
induction, like uh you numb theface and then you use a pen
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basically on the face to microdamage.
Think about you.
Remember those rollers that cameout?
Yeah, yeah.
No, don't use those, they'reterrible.
But it's kind of that idea ofthe like the micro damaging your
skin to produce collagen there.
Tell your body, like, hey, sendcollagen here.
We've had just a tiny bit ofdamage.
It helps to tighten, smooth,fine wrinkles, that kind of
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stuff.
But we really stop producing somuch collagen, you know, like as
we age.
So any kind of collageninduction is really helpful as
we age.
SPEAKER_03 (34:37):
Is there um something that you do or that
you would recommend?
Like um, maybe if someone'sinterested in, I don't know,
having something.
I guess it's all personal,right?
Like whatever you want to havedone.
So that might be a sort ofquestion.
SPEAKER_00 (34:49):
Somebody would sit down in that my chair and be
like, so and I'm like, no, whatbothers you?
Because I could look atsomebody's face and see all
these things I could do justfrom an aesthetic perspective.
I don't need to do any of those.
None of it's needed.
Yeah, like what bothers you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What we need to treat.
SPEAKER_01 (35:08):
Yeah.
I feel like you could.
I mean, I would definitely besomeone who would be offended if
they were like, like, I wasplanning to get like Botox on my
forehead, and they're like, Oh,well, your eyes could really use
some argument.
What?
SPEAKER_00 (35:18):
Well, I I actually had a couple of clients be like,
I'm never going to that personagain because they said that.
I'm like, I would never say thatto you.
I would never say any, you know,if you were like, what else
should we do?
I might be like, Well, like, ifwe're doing your Botox, do you
want your eyes done too?
You have light eyes, it'ssummer, you'll squint, that kind
of stuff.
But I'm not gonna ever say youhave this wrong with your face.
Like, there's nothing wrong withanybody's faces.
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It's all about it's a scale.
SPEAKER_03 (35:40):
Yeah.
So maybe if you are interestedin doing having something done,
like when you go to youraesthetician, you know, just let
them know what you don't like,and they can you can go from
there.
Yeah, cool.
Um, maybe to put a bow on thenursing piece, aesthetic and
all.
Any like what position would yousay of the positions that you've
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held, did you maybe like themost, or like something that you
really enjoyed, and then maybesomething that you really didn't
like about that role?
Just like for people who mightbe curious about, you know, like
different options in nursing.
SPEAKER_00 (36:14):
Med surge.
I definitely like would wake upand kind of dread going to work
because I was either like sobusy, overworked, and just like
didn't know who my patientswere, or I was like getting a
walker thrown at me or somethinglike that.
Like some nursing can be alittle violent.
Um med surge, stuff like that.
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So I'm actually really happy tonot be a part of that world
anymore.
Um the bet I think the mostrewarding now is like after
having my son, and just I mean,I went in on like a Friday and
it was summer, and I always jokethat like I came out on Monday
and it was fall, and I was acompletely different person
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after having him, which was likemy whole world had changed.
And it's really rewarding now tohelp people like through that
whole like transition.
SPEAKER_01 (37:04):
Yeah, totally.
I I have a question, yeah,burning question.
So, like, you did you work inlabor and delivery before you
had Mac?
No.
Oh, okay.
Well, my question was gonna belike, does that make you more
scared or less scared?
SPEAKER_03 (37:16):
Less.
It's a good question.
Less, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
Because I didn't like no, I think then I really
had no idea what was going on,right?
You go to your appointments andyou just like hope for the best.
Yeah.
Now I think I know a lot of thethings that could go wrong, and
then like how they would treatthem.
And that really like a scheduledC-section isn't that big of a
deal if your baby's breach andyou're like that's what's safest
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for everybody.
You know, like that would haveset me over the edge before.
I would have been like, I'mlike, like, no, it's all fine.
It's like we really the birthplan needs to be a healthy mom
and a healthy baby.
Yeah, that's it.
unknown (37:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:56):
So I think it's given me a little bit more like
perspective of how many thingscan go wrong and yeah, like how
normal mine was in comparison.
SPEAKER_01 (38:05):
Like literally every birth is different.
Like, is that true?
SPEAKER_00 (38:08):
Yeah, oh yeah, and even like your second time is
different than your first.
SPEAKER_01 (38:11):
Yeah, that's why it's like so scary.
Half the reason.
SPEAKER_00 (38:15):
I work in a place that like things can change on a
dime.
Like we could be pushing onesecond and rolling back to the
OR because everybody's not okay,type of thing.
So I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (38:25):
Yeah.
To Brittany's point about, yeah,I feel like all of our friends
have had different birthstories.
And I think every single timesomeone gets pregnant, I feel
like I learned something newabout female bodies that is just
so crazy.
Like, I have a friend right nowwho's pregnant.
She literally was just tellingme she's three months away from
giving birth.
She's like, I'm starting to wakeup in the middle of the night.
My doctor told me it's just mybody getting myself ready for
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when the baby comes because I'mgonna naturally have to wake up.
And I was like, What?
SPEAKER_00 (38:51):
Yeah, crazy stuff.
Yeah, you like don't sleep atthe end of pregnancy because
it's like gonna happen to youanyways.
Yeah, I always just had to wakeup.
I would pee like four times anight.
I just actually like hated beingpregnant.
I I like am very lucky that Ihad a very benign, like
medically pregnancy, but I hadlike too much relax and my
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pelvis fell apart, like I wasjust in a lot of pain all the
time, and then I got pups, whichis like you itch everywhere.
No, I don't yeah, so it was justlike I was just like not a happy
camper, and I was healthy, myson was healthy, and like it's
fine.
Yeah, I didn't have to haveanything extra happen, and I had
a very like quick, not painless,but very quick delivery because
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I then I had back labor.
SPEAKER_03 (39:38):
I've heard that's so painful, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:40):
They held me in the ER for 45 minutes because they
didn't have a room for me and Iwouldn't go back there.
Because like now, looking at mywork, so like you asked me about
knowing that never happened thatwhere I work now, you walk in
and like there's always room foryou, and there's always a bed.
Okay, yeah, I feel like thatshould be the case.
Like it can't be that hard tofigure it out, right?
So I just like much I feel muchmore secure about it if and when
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we do it again, like if we can,you know, having a baby at
Newport over that.
But they are like trying tofigure out if my unit is even in
the budget anymore becausewomen's health stuff is being
cut everywhere, so that's awhole nother.
But yeah.
So support your local um laborand delivery centers because you
need us.
SPEAKER_03 (40:22):
Uh yeah.
Oh, honestly, like the more andmore I feel like I hurt here
about women's health, it's sounder-researched.
Like, I just read this articleabout how a woman went into a
doctor and she was having chestpain.
And because like women's heartattacks are different than men's
heart attacks, like there'sdifferent symptoms, there's
different things, but it's justnot studied that the doctors
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like didn't they just didn'ttake her case like as seriously
as they should have because theyuh weren't looking for the right
things.
SPEAKER_00 (40:48):
And I'm like, that's crazy to me that women are
dismissed a lot, like, oh,you're they're just being
dramatic, like with pain.
SPEAKER_01 (40:55):
Oh, yeah.
I felt like I totally got thatvibe when I was pregnant.
I was talking to someone aboutthis recently, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (41:00):
Or like when you're pregnant, oh, that's just
pregnancy.
I'm like, it's not.
SPEAKER_01 (41:03):
Yeah, I'm like, can you not?
It's like when someone's like,like, if Chris is like, oh,
you're at your period, that'swhy you're in a bad mood.
And I'm like, no, it's not justmy fucking period.
And you know, it's like that.
Why are you being nicer to me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So support your women's healthproviders.
SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (41:19):
You definitely need those postpartum nurses and what
is it, pre pre-partum?
Pardom?
SPEAKER_00 (41:25):
Yeah, anti-partum.
SPEAKER_01 (41:26):
Anti-partum.
Pre, pre-like, wait a second.
SPEAKER_03 (41:33):
Well, maybe we should end talking a little bit
about your son Mac.
He just turned two.
Um, any new skill or milestonethat he's mastered that you're
just super proud of him forrecently?
SPEAKER_00 (41:44):
I just feel like I can really see like all the dots
connecting.
You know, like he gets that thisgoes with this now, and it's
really cute to watch.
And just his personality is likereally hilarious.
SPEAKER_03 (41:53):
So love that.
Yeah.
Is there something that you missabout the baby stage?
And then something that you'rereally loving about the toddler
stage right now.
SPEAKER_00 (42:04):
Going back to bed with a newborn at 7 or 8 a.m.
Because now we're 7 a.m.
we're rocking here.
So I miss the naps um and thecontact naps because he's just
like loves to sleep in his ownbed and everything, which is
great.
But I'm like, I miss my tinybaby.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, he's just likereally fun.
So actually, I was laughingbecause I was Segua to Taylor
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real quick.
My friend goes by with hernieces and nephews, goes by
Auntie Kitty, so he'll call herthat.
And he was like in the cartoday.
He's like, Kitty, kitty.
I'm like, You want the kittysong?
And he's like, Yeah, which islife of a showgirl.
SPEAKER_01 (42:43):
Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:44):
Nice brainwashing.
SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
We love to hear it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:48):
Oh, my husband's got him on so much reggae.
I'm like, I gotta bring it backto some Taylor.
SPEAKER_01 (42:52):
Yeah.
I was driving with um the boysearlier, so I'm my mom usually
watched them Wednesday, it'sWednesday, and she's away.
So I took the day off.
I brought him to the children'smuseum, and on the way home, I
was listening to Taylor.
I think it was like honey cameon, and Connor's like, I feel
like I'm driving to school rightnow.
Because I must listen to thatevery day on the way to school.
SPEAKER_03 (43:12):
Let's establish that routine with him and Taylor.
I love it.
Um, well, Maria, this has beenso much fun.
Is there anything that wemissed?
Any last tidbit that you want toshare or no?
SPEAKER_00 (43:24):
I was just thinking about Taylor stuff earlier, and
I know it has nothing to do withnursing stuff, but I was just
remembering like the all toowell Casey's bachelorette
standing on the chairs andstuff.
Like that was kind of one of mylike big not introductions.
I've been with you guys for awhile, but that just is like a
Taylor s little, and we all wentto rep together, like just that
kind of stuff.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:45):
I love that.
I think a lot I say that topeople all the time when I'm
like my Swifty hood is also alot tied into my friends.
Just there's, I mean, we've beenfans for so long.
There's so many experiences thatare like kind of marked by
Taylor.
And yeah, Casey's Bachelorette,totally one of them.
Singing on those chairs, so fun.
SPEAKER_01 (44:01):
Yeah, that is like classic us.
Did you like Taylor before youmet Casey?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:07):
Okay.
Yeah.
But I remember being like havingto listen to all too well like
quite a few times, being like,This is one of the songs for
this group.
Like, I gotta get my stufftogether here.
SPEAKER_01 (44:16):
Yeah, and how crazy is it that that all too well out
the window, never listen to itagain.
It's right now that we have 10minutes.
It's like that one's just gone.
SPEAKER_03 (44:25):
No, it's wild.
Um, well, I hope everyone is asinspired as we are.
You know, Maria, I love yourattitude of, you know, it's all
gonna work out and go for it.
So thank you so much for comingon.
We hope you had a good time.
SPEAKER_00 (44:39):
Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_03 (44:41):
And yeah, we'll be back with another episode on
Friday.
SPEAKER_01 (44:46):
Make sure to like us, follow us, comment at us,
uh, tag us, whatever, at Snitchand Pod on TikTok and Instagram.
Go to our website, snitch andpodcast.com, and tell everyone
you know about us.
Thanks, everyone.
Thanks, Maria.
Thanks, thanks, Maria.
Bye.
unknown (45:02):
Bye.
Ready?
Ready.
SPEAKER_03 (00:03):
Hey everyone.
Welcome back to the latestepisode of Snitchen.
It's your host, Kristen.
SPEAKER_01 (00:07):
And Brittany, get ready for the best part of your
day.
SPEAKER_03 (00:11):
It's Wednesday.
You know what that means.
We're back with a guest episode,and we are so excited to have
this guest with us.
Um, she is our one of ourfavorite nurses in our lives.
Uh, the one and only Miss Maria.
Welcome to the pod.
Yay.
SPEAKER_00 (00:29):
I know I never realized how many nurses are
actually in our group offriends.
It's kind of crazy.
I know, right?
SPEAKER_03 (00:35):
We do have a good amount.
Um, but yes, nursing issomething that we are going to
be talking about a lot thisepisode.
Maria is a nurse at NewportHospital, labor and delivery
nurse for what about a year now?
Yep, about a year.
But I feel like you've lived amillion nursing lives.
So we're gonna get into all ofthat.
(00:57):
Um, she also is someone whostarted out on her own career
path with a photographybusiness.
I'm really curious to hear aboutthat journey.
And she's also a mom to such acute little nugget two-year-old
named Mac.
Um, so we're gonna talk a littlebit about motherhood as well.
But first, I was just saying toMaria before we came on here,
(01:20):
Britt, I can't remember likewhen we first met.
SPEAKER_00 (01:24):
Yeah, I honestly can't either.
A while ago.
It was like around 20.
We've almost known each otherfor like 15 years now.
Because I'm not one of the OG.
I got adopted into the Cantoncircle, luckily, but I am not
from Canton.
I'm from We're very welcoming, Iwould say.
SPEAKER_03 (01:41):
Yeah, yeah.
Where are you from?
Like, what's your background?
Let's get a little intro.
SPEAKER_00 (01:45):
Yeah, so I'm from West Roxbury.
I grew up there, which is likeright next to Dedham,
technically a part of Boston.
Um, so I went to high school inDorchester, then went to college
in Salem, then I got a job as atech while I was in nursing
school in the ICU at MGH, andthat's where I met Casey, our
friend.
(02:06):
Our birthdays were only about amonth apart, and we had both um
just turned 21, I think thatpast fall.
And I basically bullied her intobeing my friend.
I was like, no, we're going outafter work.
Like we would work 7 a.m.
to 7 p.m.
I'd be like, let's go out.
Um, and I think we would likemeet up with you guys.
Um, I know there were a coupletimes we were out in like
(02:26):
Brighton and stuff.
I can't remember that bar thatwould play like do all like the
90s stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (02:31):
Oh, common ground?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:34):
Shout out to those were like really fun nights that
I remember with you guys.
So I think that's pretty muchwhere it all started.
And then when she had met Colby,um, she said, Well, which friend
would be crazy enough to gocamping with me and a bunch of
guys that we're gonna do.
Oh, I remember this.
And it was me.
Yes, I was the choice, which shewas right.
(02:57):
We went.
And remember, that started aslike, you know, probably 10 of
us, and then it grew to what3540 by the end by the time we
stopped doing it.
So that was wild.
SPEAKER_03 (03:08):
You know what?
Now that we're talking about it,the Sacco camping trips, that
actually might be one of myfirst early memories of you,
Maria, because the camping tripwas so much fun.
So for anyone who doesn't know,you go up to this place Saco in
Maine and you camp there, butthey also have this river that
you canoe down.
It's an all-day event, you know,you're out there for the day,
(03:28):
super, super fun.
And I remember Maria shows up,and maybe we should set the
stage too.
Like 10 years ago, me, your girlwasn't like bringing anything to
the table.
Like I was bringing my alcoholand that's about it.
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
Actually, if it wasn't me, I think you would
have been the person that wouldhave been like totally cool with
going camping with a bunch ofpeople you didn't know, though.
Like, I have to give that toyou.
SPEAKER_03 (03:48):
You'll just do whatever.
Oh, yeah.
No, I mean bringing to the tablelike actual physical goods.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
No, I like you brought that.
If Casey asked me to go to acamping trip with people I don't
know, I would be like, hellfucking no.
SPEAKER_00 (04:02):
Like, we were real good friends.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
Yeah, that's a favor.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:07):
Camping is married, so we'll take it.
SPEAKER_03 (04:10):
Yeah, I guess it worked out.
But you showed up with liketequila infused watermelon, like
baggies for everyone.
She I remember being like, thisgirl is gonna be the best soccer
mom that's ever existed.
Like, she's got you know,snacks, water bottles, like
anything you need, Maria had it.
SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
And that was my going for a couple years.
True.
So I already knew like how wehad nothing when we were there.
I think was it like because ithad started with just like a
just me and Casey and the guys.
SPEAKER_01 (04:41):
Still, though, I feel like you're like one of the
best guests to bring on a trip.
Thanks.
That guac you make top notch.
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (04:48):
Oh my god, you brought guac.
Yes, yes, Casey.
SPEAKER_00 (04:51):
I was always every time I went to a cant thing, I
always had to bring guac.
It was like unspoken rule.
SPEAKER_03 (04:58):
But I I mean, I do think in general, I in my mind
you're a very prepared gal,which I admire about you.
And I'm curious if, you know, Idon't know.
I feel like nurses in generalare like pretty on their stuff.
Um, so let's take it back.
Like, what starting with yournursing career, like what made
you want to be a nurse in thefirst place?
Do you remember?
(05:19):
Was it something that you alwayswere curious about?
SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
My aunt's a nurse, so I think it was kind of like
always in the family.
My mom had wanted to become anurse, but was a social worker
instead.
She didn't think she could passsome of the classes.
So I think it was kind of justalways in the back of my head.
But my I don't know if you guysknow this, but my mom has MS.
Oh, I didn't know that.
And like you would never knownow.
It's in remission, it's been inremission for a long time.
(05:41):
But she got diagnosed when I waseight.
Um so I think just and she wassick for a while.
We went to St.
Catharines actually at the time.
So we were in Norwood.
But we were my brother-in-lawwent there.
Oh, that's funny.
That's weird.
We would have like depending onthe day of the week, like
somebody else would bring ushome from school.
Like it was like whicheverfamily.
So it was like very like my momwas in and out of the hospital,
(06:03):
that kind of stuff.
I don't really remember being inthe hospital with her, but then
I think that just kind of likeset me on the track of like
caregiver type of a thing.
And when I was gonna go tocollege, I was deciding between
like nursing, photography, andculinary.
Those are like the three thingsthat I wanted to do.
And my parents were like, Well,go to nursing school, you can
(06:24):
always like yeah get a realdegree.
Not that and like I'm like now.
I'm looking back, I'm like,those other things are real,
like right now get a culinarydegree, but they're like, get a
real quote unquote real job, andthen you can do those other
things after.
Looking back, I would have neverpassed.
Um I can't draw, I can't doother artistic things, so I'm
glad I didn't try to go to artschool.
But yeah, I don't really knowwhat else I would have done.
SPEAKER_01 (06:46):
Nursing is like, I think the best job.
I mean, I cannot be a nursebecause I suck at science and I
hate seeing blood and gore andall that.
But I, if it wasn't for that,like a nurse is the best job,
like being on your feet all day,you have different hours, you're
helping people.
SPEAKER_00 (07:01):
Unfortunately, now, like, and you like Brit, I'm
sure you know, like mom's beenmore than dads a lot of the
time.
Sorry, guys, but like myschedule is a lot more flexible
than my husband's.
He works Monday through Friday,8 to 4:30.
So I'm working a weekend shiftto offset like our child care
type of thing, or I'm the onewho thinks so it has its perks
for sure.
Yeah, because like I used to riplike six shifts shifts in a row
(07:24):
and then go on vacation and nottake any time off.
So, like when I was younger andfun.
SPEAKER_01 (07:28):
So but like nice that you can do that, you know,
you have that option, yeah, forsure.
SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
And for me with nursing, as long as it's not
happening to me, I'm totallyfine.
I'm a terrible patient, so likeI pass out when I have my blood
drawn, stuff like that.
Oh wow, but I can take yourblood, put an IV in notebook.
That's so weird, yeah.
It's almost like I know toomuch, and that's yeah, I guess
that that that's true.
SPEAKER_03 (07:51):
So you said you started as a tech at MGH, yeah,
and the trauma transplant ICUwith Casey.
What was your because likeyou've been in some different
departments, so like where haveyou worked, I guess, and what
different roles have you been inas a so I left there because I
didn't want to be an ICU nurse.
SPEAKER_00 (08:07):
Um, and that was kind of like the only option
because I had worked in the ICU,nobody, no other floor.
Every floor was kind of hiringtheir own PCAs, their own aides.
I had worked on that floor and Ididn't want to be in the ICU.
I left and went to Good Sam inBrockton.
Um, so they took 25 of us, newgrads, and made us the float
(08:27):
pool, which was actually insane.
You'd walk like Melissa said,you walk in and they tell you
where to go for the day.
SPEAKER_03 (08:33):
Yeah, that's kind of crazy, like to not really know.
SPEAKER_00 (08:36):
They had trained us for like a couple months and was
like, good luck.
Like when you walked in.
So like I learned a lot, butlooking back, I was like, that
was crazy.
So I lasted there for a year,and then I had always wanted to
live in Florida.
And actually, when I was incollege, I wanted to transfer
like my sophomore year, andschool told me that my credits
wouldn't transfer and just to goafter.
(08:59):
So I went to Florida for acouple years and lived in
Deerfield Beach and worked inBoca Ratone.
I forgot you lived in Florida,doesn't suck.
Yeah, jealous.
I've lived a hundred lives, Ifeel like you have.
Then I was just kind of over it.
I always say that people were asfake as their body parts down
there.
If you didn't go to high schoolor college with people, it was
(09:20):
really hard to make friends.
I was like 24, 25 at the time,and people really had like
established friend groups.
And my cousin lives there and itwas great, but like she was
going, she had two almost threekids, so she was hanging out
with like all of her momfriends, and I just wasn't
there.
So I got a job again at back atMGH and worked in the Phillips
house, which is like their VIPkind of medical surgical unit.
(09:42):
Oh, any celebs?
Um, yeah, there was like some uhlike Celtics, Patriots players.
We would either have like peoplewho paid extra to stay there for
the night, so people would comefrom Zaudi and pay for like
extra.
They come in with like literalsuitcases full of cash and have
to like and we'd be dischargingto the Liberty Hotel for their
(10:03):
extra PT kind of stay thing.
SPEAKER_03 (10:05):
Or that's kind of crazy.
Like you forget, I think some ofthe th one of the things that we
forget living here and justgrowing up with such great
health care is that MGH is oneof the most like world-renowned
hospitals, you know.
Not I mean, definitely in thecountry, but when you're saying
people are coming from Saudi,like in the world.
So that's a really like uniqueposition kind of to be in to
have these VIPs who are comingfor this care.
(10:28):
Do you I mean, did you ever likedid you ever forget that working
there?
Or were people always highlyaware that that's the standard
that everyone's held to?
SPEAKER_00 (10:35):
Everybody's held to that standard, but I think some
of the nurses that I worked withlike would forget how good we
had it as nurses almost becauseI had worked in Brockton, we had
five to one ratios.
And then in Florida, we hadseven to one ratios.
SPEAKER_03 (10:50):
And just to clarify, seven patients to one nurse.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
That's a lot.
Dang.
And then after six months inFlorida, because I had the most
experience with a year and ahalf, which was crazy.
I was in charge of 42 beds.
Like on two beds.
Like I was the charge nurse incharge of everybody, like who's
coming, who's going.
There's all these problems Ihave to solve, like all this
stuff all day long.
So I come back to Mass General,and the ratios on the floor I
(11:15):
was on at night was five to one.
Evenings was in days was liketwo to one, three to one.
And people, oh, I'm so busy.
I'm so like blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, you don't evenknow what busy is.
Like, I know who my patients areright now.
I'm able to actually have aconversation with them, connect
with them.
Yeah.
(11:38):
You're like, you know, I neverreally lost that perspective,
but I and like everybody's heldto that high standard.
But I think sometimes peoplewill be like, like lose sight of
how good you are to care forpeople and actually be able to
care for them.
SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
Yeah, totally.
That's pretty unique though, tohave like a VIP um role.
And so then after that, how whatdid you do from there?
SPEAKER_00 (12:00):
Well, it was either VIP or we had the people like,
and I would feel bad.
We also had like people from thejail.
Oh, because they needed asecurity guard with them all the
time from the jail.
Um and like they were handcuffedto the bed.
Or like we would have people whoneeded a private room because
they like had every single bugever, like all the letters type
(12:21):
of things that like they neededto take on precautions, and we
were like discharging to thestreets.
So, like sometimes it was it waslike either the top or the
bottom, and sometimes in themiddle, and it was definitely a
good variety of everything.
SPEAKER_03 (12:34):
I do think I that's one thing that's surprising to
hear is like I mean, I thinkBritt from you and I, like
corporate backgrounds, right?
We go into our day knowingexactly like what meetings you
have, kind of what you need toprep for.
I think it's kind of create likeunique about a nursing role if
you are a floater and youliterally don't know what you're
gonna be dealing with that day.
But then also just yeah, likethe variety of patients.
(12:55):
That's I think that's somethingI would enjoy.
Because I think that's somethingthat corporate life can get
that's like a neg a little bit,is that, or at least in the
roles I've had, it can be alittle monotonous.
Did you like that?
Like having that variety.
SPEAKER_00 (13:08):
Yeah, there were definitely like I liked surgical
patients more than medicalpatients.
Obviously, I'm not gonna treatanybody differently, but like
there's just things I likedmore.
So if my assignment was a littlebit more surgical, background
heavy on the patients, like Iwas a little more happy.
If we were like doing 101 meds,I was like, oh man, but you
know, it's fine.
You just have to know a lot,like it all at the same time.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:28):
Um, but then I had met John, my now husband, and he
lived in Rhode Island.
So I took a job outpatient herein Rhode Island, which I now
live in Rhode Island, and I tookan outpatient job at a primary
care doctor's office because Ididn't want to go back to night
shift.
(13:49):
And I hated it because it was nopatient care.
I was sitting in like an officewith a headset on and everybody
was calling me.
Oh yeah.
You know, when you call yourdoctor's office and you I was
triaging, you have to like talkto the nurse.
SPEAKER_01 (14:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (14:01):
The nurse calls you back.
Yeah.
A lot of it turned intoeverybody yelling at me that
their like Adderall prescriptionwasn't filled, but they didn't
call me last week when it wasalmost out, and just stuff like
that.
That I was like, I'm just sickand tired of being yelled at.
So with COVID, um, it was a lotof the same thing over and over
(14:21):
again.
So that obviously started inMarch, and I quit in July.
I was like, I can't do thisanymore.
SPEAKER_02 (14:27):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (14:28):
And I didn't really know what I wanted to do.
I quit.
John wasn't really super happywith that because I didn't
really ask him.
I just kind of was like, Well,it's your life.
Bye.
Yeah, but I had I had sold atlike my multifamily house, and I
was like, Yeah, I'm done.
I'm gonna figure this out.
So I started my photographycompany then in 2020.
SPEAKER_03 (14:47):
Oh, in 2020.
Okay.
I mean, good for you, Glenn.
We our girl Glenn would be soproud.
She would untamed.
You listen to your knowing.
Yes.
So you like it too.
SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
A lot of that, like I was meditating a lot at the
time.
I was doing a lot of like thosetypes of things, and I was like,
what am I doing?
I don't want to be a nurseanymore.
I'm never going to be a nurseany and ever again.
I need to recreate myself fully.
SPEAKER_01 (15:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:16):
So I like basically jumped off the cliff and was
like, whatever happens.
I am very much a person that'slike, it'll work out.
I don't know how.
And it drives my husband crazybecause he likes to know exactly
how things are gonna work out,even though I'm a little more
type A, but so brave.
SPEAKER_03 (15:32):
I also feel like you know, what you were saying
before, like with your parents,you know, not wanting you to go
to art school and getting thenursing degree, get the quote
unquote real degree.
That's very much like the timein which we grew up, right?
Where you kind of are drilledin, it's drilled into you to get
the job and you know, kind offollow the rules, follow the
path.
So I think that's something thatlike internally you'd probably
be battling anyway, to likechange course and jump ship.
(15:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:54):
You know, um, and I had I had had that food blog for
a second when I lived inFlorida.
And so I did the food, I I thinkI did all the things that I set
out originally to do.
I didn't go to culinary school,but I explored the food food
world a little bit that way.
And then yeah.
So I did my photographybusiness, which was fine.
(16:14):
Honestly, like I think one ofyour questions was like, what
would you tell people that wantto start their own business?
It's like keep your day job orlike have something else while
you're building it.
You need to be also like havingan income.
So I nanied for a little bit.
It just like was enough to paysome bills and then I could work
on this.
But it was, I think I startedlike October-ish.
(16:36):
And the funniest part is is likemy busiest season is probably
now, like August to November.
Like, you're not gonna Ibasically started in the middle,
like I started building stuffthrough the spring and then
really started.
But luckily, I had linked upwith a contact of like John's
friend's sister, was this greatphotographer in the area, and
(16:58):
she had a second shooter at thetime.
And then so I DM'd her and waslike, Hey, if you ever need a
second shooter, because that'sreally how you get experience
with photography.
A lot of the time you link upwith like another photographer
mentor type of thing.
And she finally had like anopening, had gotten rid of her
second shooter in like January.
So then I was able to luckily,like only three, four months
(17:21):
into it, link up with her.
Nice.
So yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:25):
That's a good first step.
I I forgot about secondshooters.
So if yeah, just like if you'reat a wedding, there's if there's
two photographers, there's theone who's like the main you
know, point of contact.
And then second shooters arewhat doing like a lot of like
candids, like just whateveryou're basically told to shoot.
SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
We usually go and like we'll split up and I'll do
the groom prep and she'll bewith the bride for the beginning
part of the day.
SPEAKER_01 (17:48):
Second is always with the groom.
unknown (17:49):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (17:51):
I'm good at wrangling the guys together.
So usually that, and then I'llmeet up with her for formals and
get candids during those.
The ceremony, I'm just shootingwherever she's not.
The main goal is to likebasically give a lot of variety
throughout the album fromdifferent perspectives.
I try to tackle a lot of likecocktail hour for her so she can
take a break.
But that's how like she and Iwork.
(18:11):
We've been working together fora while.
Oh, I didn't know so.
You still do weddings?
Just with her.
I don't I only do like familyand newborn and maternity stuff
on my own now because I justthat's too much editing for
weddings.
Um, interesting.
But I just I'll do a couple withher a year.
SPEAKER_01 (18:26):
Any like Bradzilla's bad stories?
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
Oh, it was one girl at Castle Hill in 2021 where it
was like May, it was like this,honestly, it was freezing
outside.
Everybody's sitting outsidewaiting.
She made the makeup artist redoher makeup like four times, and
everybody's sitting outside.
Oh my god.
And then she came up to meduring it and she's like, Do you
have a needle and thread?
(18:49):
And I was like, No, why?
And she and I'm not a weddingplanner, like you should be
asking your wedding planner.
Yeah.
And she's like, I ripped mydress and I look at it, it's
tool.
I was like, Ain't happening.
I go, Do you have a second lookyou'd like to change into?
SPEAKER_01 (19:04):
Yeah, you're like, I don't know, you're asking the
wrong person here.
SPEAKER_03 (19:07):
But I'm also like trying to like I knew she was
nuts, so I was like, Weddingsmust be tough just because of
the pressure of the day.
I mean, that's what I wouldimagine.
And I'm sure, yeah, there's somepeople that are you can't redo
it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:20):
Like, that's what I like, at least with family
photos.
If something if something'scrazy or if I lose the files or
something, which I always likedouble up on the files, so I
never do, but you can alwaysredo those, right?
So even if it's a week later andI contacted you was like, I'm so
sorry, we need to redo these.
Totally, my bad.
You could put the same outfitson, we could go to the same
place.
Yeah, totally.
(19:41):
You can't redo a wedding.
unknown (19:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:43):
But like I wouldn't sleep well before being the
primary shooter.
I'm just like, I'm just gonnasecond shoot them.
Cause I still like loveweddings.
I love love, like that kind ofstuff, and it's nice.
SPEAKER_03 (19:53):
So um, I like what you said about like so piece of
advice, you know, make sure thatyou keep your day job, have a
stream of income while youpursue this.
What would you say was thehardest part about really
getting your business off theground or like maybe something
you didn't expect?
If someone is going out anddoing something along these
lines and starting their own umbusiness, like what was the
hardest thing that you had tokind of handle?
SPEAKER_00 (20:15):
Two things.
One would have been getting yourclients.
I'm not from here, so I don'thave a lot of like contacts, but
luckily my husband is from here,so he did post a lot for me.
So a lot of his the people hewent to high school with um and
stuff like that would hire me.
And just like knowing yourworth, I was not very confident
(20:36):
in some of my like editingstyles and stuff like that,
which you find your way, butthen like pricing yourself
adequately with that is hard todo because you you're like,
Well, is are people gonna wantto pay for that?
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
Right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (20:49):
Do pe do you so do you really edit that much?
Yeah, I have like six.
That's what I have to do afterthis.
I have like six or seven albumsI need to get out.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (20:58):
Oh, what do you so what do you just like take out
red eye and stuff?
SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
No, so I actually like will adjust the colors and
stuff like that.
Um, and like delete bad ones,balance, exposure, contrast,
like all of that stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (21:12):
I feel like photography is a job that looks
so easy, but it's probablyreally not.
Yeah, even like the shooting,you know.
SPEAKER_00 (21:17):
The shooting itself, I think now that I have a
toddler, I can relate a lot moreto the moms because I used to
leave and they'd be like, Oh mygod, that was so horrible.
I'm like, I have great, I cansee right here, I have great
photos.
What are they talking about?
But now after doing some shootswith my own toddler and be like,
that was a disaster.
Yeah.
They always come out great.
I'm like, I totally get whereyou're coming from.
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It's totally fine.
Just need a couple.
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
I feel like that's one of the things, and it was a
similar theme we had with Owenwhen he was talking about real
estate.
It's like the actual job in andof itself, shooting, editing,
all of that is one thing.
But when you are, you know,building your book of business,
it's a whole different level ofskill set, like, or not level,
but it's just a different skillset, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (21:59):
And knowing who's not your client.
So what do you mean?
Like just people you're notvibing with people that don't
you can tell kind of at thebeginning.
I'm sure it's the same in realestate, like you're kind of not
lining up on things and being alittle more difficult than it
needs to be.
Set them free.
They're not your client, there'sclients for everybody.
Somebody else comes around.
SPEAKER_01 (22:20):
So do you feel like so?
I feel like Owen says that likehe gets more nervous when he has
like his friends, when he's likethe realtor for his friends.
Like, do you feel like that?
If you're like shooting yourfriends, is that like more
nerve-wracking or like less Iwould think less because I know
they're kids, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:33):
You know, like for me, I'm like I can be a little
more personable with their kids.
Yeah.
Like I shoot, I'll shoot Mikeand Jules like yearly, usually,
and that's easy with the girls.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:43):
What is the most rewarding thing about the
photography business?
SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
I'd say like preserving some childhood a lot
of the times, or like when we doextended extended family photos,
the grandparents, like I'mgiving you kind of a legacy,
right?
So you're gonna look back atthese photos forever.
Or, you know, you're gonnaremember this time with your
grandparents, or you know, Ihate to say, like a lot of the
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times at weddings, I'll be like,you know, I always make sure I
get extra grandma and grandpaand stuff like that.
I think with the nursing too,I'm like definitely aware of
like mortality and stuff likethat, and that things can
change.
So I actually over-deliver a lotbecause I'm like, I'm not gonna,
your kids running around.
I took a bunch of candid photos,I'm not gonna gatekeep their
childhood.
Here's like all the photos, youknow, like it's easy for me.
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People, you know, I guarantee 60photos.
I usually give a hundred becauseI'm like, whatever.
If your eyes are open, you'regetting them.
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_03 (23:38):
So I like that mentality.
Like, if I have the photos,might as well, you know, give
them to you to use.
They're gonna be more valuablefor you.
And I do love that about I mean,I'm a huge photo person.
I have photos all over my house.
I do photo books every year.
Um, just for me personally.
I love what you're saying aboutpreserving a family's memories
and their childhood.
That's really special.
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Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
But you remember at the bar, I'd always be like,
let's take a picture.
So that's great.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
I need people like that around me.
Every year, my New Year'sresolution is to take more
pictures.
It never happens.
SPEAKER_03 (24:10):
Wait, can we tangent?
Britt, do you remember this?
I love the story about Brittany.
I do take a lot of photos and Ialways would say to Britt, I'd
be like, It's for the memories,Britt.
It's not for like the gram orwhatever.
So we're in Vienna and she'slike really getting behind this
idea.
She's like, Yeah, we need topreserve the memories.
We need to preserve thememories.
Ria, I swear to God, every timeI would take a photo, Brittany
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would whip out her photo andtake her phone and take the same
exact photo.
She'd be like, Oh yeah, photo,take the same exact photo.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
Have you ever heard of a shared album?
Well, no.
So but then we would do a sharedalbum and it would be like two
in a row of the same picture.
Just like literally the sameexact pictures.
SPEAKER_03 (24:45):
She would never do it on her own, like only when I
would take my phone out.
Just don't think of it.
No, you really don't.
SPEAKER_00 (24:51):
Oh my god, you should.
SPEAKER_03 (24:52):
I have so many photos on my phone.
That's funny.
Um so okay, so definitelycovered the photo business.
And obviously, like we said, allof your different experiences as
a nurse, but we haven't reallytackled your kind of third, I
guess, area of expertise.
You were also an aestheticnurse.
And Brittany and I actually wentto you for Botox, where you
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administered to us before.
So when was this in all of youknow, started the business for
photography 2020?
When did you, you know, go intothat field?
SPEAKER_00 (25:24):
So I gotten certified actually with Jules um
in like 2019.
I didn't know what it was gonnatake to get into the field, but
I was like, this is fun, I wantto do this.
So we got certified and then weboth kind of hung out without
jobs in it for a while.
Because unless you know an ownerof a med spa as an RN, you can't
go out on your own and do it.
You have to work under an NP oran MD, depending on like state
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laws.
SPEAKER_03 (25:48):
Do you have to put in certain hours?
Like, how's that tracked?
SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
No, you just have to be hired by them.
So you work under them.
So you have to have like that,you work under their orders.
So you have to have like anordering provider.
Okay, got it.
And when I had this kind ofcontinues along my nursing life,
um, when I left outpatient,started photography, nanied,
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then in like I want to sayNovember-ish of 2020, I linked
up with a NP who I actually usedto do primary care with.
I like cold emailed her and waslike, listen, I used to work
with you in primary care.
Like, you know, I'm a goodnurse.
Can I work at your med spa?
You're so brave.
SPEAKER_03 (26:27):
I she's such a hustler.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
The worst thing people can say is no, whatever.
Like you never see the peopleagain then.
It's true.
SPEAKER_03 (26:33):
No, if people are taking something away from this
episode, like what I'm takingaway is just like go for it.
Like, what's the worst that canhappen?
You'll figure it out.
SPEAKER_00 (26:41):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:42):
Right.
Maria, you're a badass.
Okay, sorry, keep going.
SPEAKER_00 (26:45):
So then she turned out to be like a really terrible
person, but I'm not gonna getinto that.
So but I worked for her forthree years, um doing Botox,
fillers, lasers.
Um, and I really liked itbecause you were just kind of
like building on somebody'sconfidence.
Uh I would hate to see likepeople.
There were some people whodefinitely came with some eye
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dysmorphia, which was superhard, and I'd have to like be
like, no, I'm not doing any morefiller on you.
Oh, because they wanted toomuch.
You can say that me, you don'tthink that I'm like overfilled
or have anything in my face.
And like I would always say thatlike nobody should know you come
to me unless you want them to.
Like, your my face, your faceshouldn't be the calling card
that like, ooh, that was greatbecause it definitely like
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instilled some people'sconfidence after like some laser
treatments or a little botox,and they were feeling great
about themselves.
So, like, I'm happy to helpeverybody with that.
So, but after I had Mac, I justkind of realized I wasn't like
lining up with kind of themorals and stuff of the woman I
worked with.
So then I left there and didn'tmuch to again John's chagrin, I
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didn't work for a while.
And then he told me I had to goback to work, and I was like,
Are you sure?
And I'm so glad I did because Iwas definitely going crazy, like
being home all the time.
I definitely should always havea part-time job, and that's just
me, to be able to go and talk toadults and help people.
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So I said, you know, in nursingschool I always wanted to be a
labor and delivery nurse, andI'd always changed hospitals
instead of changing into that.
And at the time when I was a newgrad, you had to work within a
hospital to be to then move to aspecialty, which you know, ICU,
um, labor and delivery, justthose kinds of things that
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people wanted to be in.
Now you don't have to do that,they need nurses everywhere.
So I applied to Newport Hospitaland to Women and Infants because
they were close to me, and I gotboth jobs.
So I chose um Newport becausethey're LDRP, which is labor
delivery, postpartum recovery.
So we do it all.
Wow, interesting.
So like I had Mac at Women andInfants, and probably the same
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as you, Britt.
Um, you have your baby, then yougo to postpartum.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (28:59):
Yeah, it's different nurses and everything.
SPEAKER_00 (29:00):
Yeah.
Yeah, no, we keep everybody,which I actually love.
So that's part of the like youwalk into different things every
day.
Like I Sunday I had a patientwho we labored and she had her
baby, and then the next day Igot to keep her, and then I
picked up another two postpartumpatients, and I had postpartum
for the day.
SPEAKER_01 (29:18):
And like then you get to work with the babies
because I remember like thepostpartum nurses saying that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:23):
Right.
So I don't think I would lovejust doing one or the other.
SPEAKER_03 (29:28):
Well, it seems like you kind of said before, too,
like variety is something thatyou like in your job.
So I could see why that, youknow, would be like attractive.
SPEAKER_02 (29:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (29:38):
Um, can we go back to the aesthetic for a second?
I am curious.
Well, first off, what you said,uh, and I think Britt, you said
it like I didn't even realizethat you were allowed to really
deny a patient from additionaltreatment if you felt like it
wasn't, you know, good for them,if they have too much stuff in
their face already.
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
Um a lot of it that I would say no to was like Extra
lip filler.
And if if you can tell thattheir filler is like coming
outside of the border theirlips, that's like a
contraindicated.
SPEAKER_02 (30:07):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
Yeah.
So there's like medical reasonas to why, because the filler's
gonna migrate into your out ofthe space and into your yeah.
So like if you could tell it waslike medically not indicated
because of like there was gonnabe problems if you did it.
You know, you're over youroverfilling cheeks and you're
stretching, stretching,stretching, there can be a lot
of problems like with laxity andstuff like that after for anyone
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who's listening, me andBrittany's face right now, like
if it we're it's very muchconfirmed we could never do
anything like this because wecan't even handle that.
SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
Yeah.
Um is there like besides well, Imean, I guess besides that a
little bit, but like any umsingle biggest misconception
that you encounter with peoplewho are looking for Botox, like,
or just something that maybepeople aren't aware of if they
want to get that done?
SPEAKER_00 (30:56):
Probably the biggest misconception is that you like
look crazy after.
SPEAKER_03 (30:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (31:00):
So you should go to an injector that you like the
look of their face.
So if you see somebody who'ssuper overfilled, super tight,
their eyebrows are really crazyand you don't want that look,
then don't go to them.
SPEAKER_01 (31:15):
Yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
SPEAKER_00 (31:17):
It's really like an it's kind of an art, right?
Like crafting somebody's face.
Yeah.
And if that's the way that theirpainting and art is, then that's
how they're gonna paint on you.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (31:30):
If that's what they think looks good, I have the
same rule often withhairstylists.
If there's a hairstylist whereI'm like, oh, their hair looks
maybe a little bleached or alittle broken, probably not
gonna be someone I go back to.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (31:44):
Yeah, same idea.
I just think the other thing isthat you have to like go all in
and go all the time and all thestuff.
Like you can, you know, I in my20s I got it twice a year.
In my 30s, you know, I get itsometimes twice a year.
It's just from I'm trying toprevent the static lines from
forming on my forehead.
I'm fine with having wrinkles, Ijust don't want those deep set
(32:04):
lines.
Yeah, so if I do it twice a yearto prevent instead of I'm really
going for a frozen look, yeah.
I think it can be used asprevention as opposed to like
these treatments that people aredoing.
That's how I get the facelooking super tight and plastic.
I do it twice a year, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:25):
I only did it the one time that we went down.
I would totally do it again.
I just honestly haven't reallythought much about it.
But um, I think the thing thatsurprised me the most, kind of
to your point, about like Ithink I I thought it was a
bigger deal than it was.
I was shocked at how quick thewhole thing is.
SPEAKER_00 (32:43):
And then it wears off.
Like it can be temporary.
You do it once, it's like you'renot committed to the bit, like
it it wears off.
SPEAKER_03 (32:50):
Yeah, I feel like in general, the whole kind of um
reputation of Botox has changedin the last 10 to 15 years.
I think before, maybe like 15years ago when people did it.
I mean, it was just less common,I think.
Do you think that's likeaccurate?
I feel like now most people Iknow do do that, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (33:07):
I'm telling you, I think it's from Zoom.
I think it's from people lookingat themselves on the yeah.
Yeah, I believe that.
SPEAKER_03 (33:12):
From Zoom, I knew it.
SPEAKER_00 (33:13):
Yeah, I have to stare at myself.
I had a lot of that in 2020,2021.
SPEAKER_03 (33:18):
Oh my god, totally.
Totally, totally.
SPEAKER_00 (33:21):
I can't believe this is the way my face looks.
And I'm like, what do you youwhat do you mean?
SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
Yeah, no, that's a great call.
Um, just another COVID outcome.
SPEAKER_01 (33:31):
Yeah, for sure.
Like, what else is an aestheticwhat is it called?
Uh aesthetic?
Aesthetic nerve.
Like what else do you do besidesBotox?
SPEAKER_00 (33:39):
Um, lasers, so laser hair removal or pigment removal
on your face.
I need the neck chest, stufflike that.
Um we would do a lot of microneedling.
Oh, like the that's like theeyebrows, right?
Yeah.
Well, no, that's micro-bleeding.
I don't do that's like no microneedling is like a collagen
induction, like uh you numb theface and then you use a pen
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basically on the face to microdamage.
Think about you.
Remember those rollers that cameout?
Yeah, yeah.
No, don't use those, they'reterrible.
But it's kind of that idea ofthe like the micro damaging your
skin to produce collagen there.
Tell your body, like, hey, sendcollagen here.
We've had just a tiny bit ofdamage.
It helps to tighten, smooth,fine wrinkles, that kind of
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stuff.
But we really stop producing somuch collagen, you know, like as
we age.
So any kind of collageninduction is really helpful as
we age.
SPEAKER_03 (34:37):
Is there um something that you do or that
you would recommend?
Like um, maybe if someone'sinterested in, I don't know,
having something.
I guess it's all personal,right?
Like whatever you want to havedone.
So that might be a sort ofquestion.
SPEAKER_00 (34:49):
Somebody would sit down in that my chair and be
like, so and I'm like, no, whatbothers you?
Because I could look atsomebody's face and see all
these things I could do justfrom an aesthetic perspective.
I don't need to do any of those.
None of it's needed.
Yeah, like what bothers you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What we need to treat.
SPEAKER_01 (35:08):
Yeah.
I feel like you could.
I mean, I would definitely besomeone who would be offended if
they were like, like, I wasplanning to get like Botox on my
forehead, and they're like, Oh,well, your eyes could really use
some argument.
What?
SPEAKER_00 (35:18):
Well, I I actually had a couple of clients be like,
I'm never going to that personagain because they said that.
I'm like, I would never say thatto you.
I would never say any, you know,if you were like, what else
should we do?
I might be like, Well, like, ifwe're doing your Botox, do you
want your eyes done too?
You have light eyes, it'ssummer, you'll squint, that kind
of stuff.
But I'm not gonna ever say youhave this wrong with your face.
Like, there's nothing wrong withanybody's faces.
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It's all about it's a scale.
SPEAKER_03 (35:40):
Yeah.
So maybe if you are interestedin doing having something done,
like when you go to youraesthetician, you know, just let
them know what you don't like,and they can you can go from
there.
Yeah, cool.
Um, maybe to put a bow on thenursing piece, aesthetic and
all.
Any like what position would yousay of the positions that you've
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held, did you maybe like themost, or like something that you
really enjoyed, and then maybesomething that you really didn't
like about that role?
Just like for people who mightbe curious about, you know, like
different options in nursing.
SPEAKER_00 (36:14):
Med surge.
I definitely like would wake upand kind of dread going to work
because I was either like sobusy, overworked, and just like
didn't know who my patientswere, or I was like getting a
walker thrown at me or somethinglike that.
Like some nursing can be alittle violent.
Um med surge, stuff like that.
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So I'm actually really happy tonot be a part of that world
anymore.
Um the bet I think the mostrewarding now is like after
having my son, and just I mean,I went in on like a Friday and
it was summer, and I always jokethat like I came out on Monday
and it was fall, and I was acompletely different person
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after having him, which was likemy whole world had changed.
And it's really rewarding now tohelp people like through that
whole like transition.
SPEAKER_01 (37:04):
Yeah, totally.
I I have a question, yeah,burning question.
So, like, you did you work inlabor and delivery before you
had Mac?
No.
Oh, okay.
Well, my question was gonna belike, does that make you more
scared or less scared?
SPEAKER_03 (37:16):
Less.
It's a good question.
Less, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
Because I didn't like no, I think then I really
had no idea what was going on,right?
You go to your appointments andyou just like hope for the best.
Yeah.
Now I think I know a lot of thethings that could go wrong, and
then like how they would treatthem.
And that really like a scheduledC-section isn't that big of a
deal if your baby's breach andyou're like that's what's safest
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for everybody.
You know, like that would haveset me over the edge before.
I would have been like, I'mlike, like, no, it's all fine.
It's like we really the birthplan needs to be a healthy mom
and a healthy baby.
Yeah, that's it.
unknown (37:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:56):
So I think it's given me a little bit more like
perspective of how many thingscan go wrong and yeah, like how
normal mine was in comparison.
SPEAKER_01 (38:05):
Like literally every birth is different.
Like, is that true?
SPEAKER_00 (38:08):
Yeah, oh yeah, and even like your second time is
different than your first.
SPEAKER_01 (38:11):
Yeah, that's why it's like so scary.
Half the reason.
SPEAKER_00 (38:15):
I work in a place that like things can change on a
dime.
Like we could be pushing onesecond and rolling back to the
OR because everybody's not okay,type of thing.
So I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (38:25):
Yeah.
To Brittany's point about, yeah,I feel like all of our friends
have had different birthstories.
And I think every single timesomeone gets pregnant, I feel
like I learned something newabout female bodies that is just
so crazy.
Like, I have a friend right nowwho's pregnant.
She literally was just tellingme she's three months away from
giving birth.
She's like, I'm starting to wakeup in the middle of the night.
My doctor told me it's just mybody getting myself ready for
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when the baby comes because I'mgonna naturally have to wake up.
And I was like, What?
SPEAKER_00 (38:51):
Yeah, crazy stuff.
Yeah, you like don't sleep atthe end of pregnancy because
it's like gonna happen to youanyways.
Yeah, I always just had to wakeup.
I would pee like four times anight.
I just actually like hated beingpregnant.
I I like am very lucky that Ihad a very benign, like
medically pregnancy, but I hadlike too much relax and my
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pelvis fell apart, like I wasjust in a lot of pain all the
time, and then I got pups, whichis like you itch everywhere.
No, I don't yeah, so it was justlike I was just like not a happy
camper, and I was healthy, myson was healthy, and like it's
fine.
Yeah, I didn't have to haveanything extra happen, and I had
a very like quick, not painless,but very quick delivery because
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I then I had back labor.
SPEAKER_03 (39:38):
I've heard that's so painful, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:40):
They held me in the ER for 45 minutes because they
didn't have a room for me and Iwouldn't go back there.
Because like now, looking at mywork, so like you asked me about
knowing that never happened thatwhere I work now, you walk in
and like there's always room foryou, and there's always a bed.
Okay, yeah, I feel like thatshould be the case.
Like it can't be that hard tofigure it out, right?
So I just like much I feel muchmore secure about it if and when
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we do it again, like if we can,you know, having a baby at
Newport over that.
But they are like trying tofigure out if my unit is even in
the budget anymore becausewomen's health stuff is being
cut everywhere, so that's awhole nother.
But yeah.
So support your local um laborand delivery centers because you
need us.
SPEAKER_03 (40:22):
Uh yeah.
Oh, honestly, like the more andmore I feel like I hurt here
about women's health, it's sounder-researched.
Like, I just read this articleabout how a woman went into a
doctor and she was having chestpain.
And because like women's heartattacks are different than men's
heart attacks, like there'sdifferent symptoms, there's
different things, but it's justnot studied that the doctors
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like didn't they just didn'ttake her case like as seriously
as they should have because theyuh weren't looking for the right
things.
SPEAKER_00 (40:48):
And I'm like, that's crazy to me that women are
dismissed a lot, like, oh,you're they're just being
dramatic, like with pain.
SPEAKER_01 (40:55):
Oh, yeah.
I felt like I totally got thatvibe when I was pregnant.
I was talking to someone aboutthis recently, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (41:00):
Or like when you're pregnant, oh, that's just
pregnancy.
I'm like, it's not.
SPEAKER_01 (41:03):
Yeah, I'm like, can you not?
It's like when someone's like,like, if Chris is like, oh,
you're at your period, that'swhy you're in a bad mood.
And I'm like, no, it's not justmy fucking period.
And you know, it's like that.
Why are you being nicer to me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So support your women's healthproviders.
SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (41:19):
You definitely need those postpartum nurses and what
is it, pre pre-partum?
Pardom?
SPEAKER_00 (41:25):
Yeah, anti-partum.
SPEAKER_01 (41:26):
Anti-partum.
Pre, pre-like, wait a second.
SPEAKER_03 (41:33):
Well, maybe we should end talking a little bit
about your son Mac.
He just turned two.
Um, any new skill or milestonethat he's mastered that you're
just super proud of him forrecently?
SPEAKER_00 (41:44):
I just feel like I can really see like all the dots
connecting.
You know, like he gets that thisgoes with this now, and it's
really cute to watch.
And just his personality is likereally hilarious.
SPEAKER_03 (41:53):
So love that.
Yeah.
Is there something that you missabout the baby stage?
And then something that you'rereally loving about the toddler
stage right now.
SPEAKER_00 (42:04):
Going back to bed with a newborn at 7 or 8 a.m.
Because now we're 7 a.m.
we're rocking here.
So I miss the naps um and thecontact naps because he's just
like loves to sleep in his ownbed and everything, which is
great.
But I'm like, I miss my tinybaby.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, he's just likereally fun.
So actually, I was laughingbecause I was Segua to Taylor
(42:28):
real quick.
My friend goes by with hernieces and nephews, goes by
Auntie Kitty, so he'll call herthat.
And he was like in the cartoday.
He's like, Kitty, kitty.
I'm like, You want the kittysong?
And he's like, Yeah, which islife of a showgirl.
SPEAKER_01 (42:43):
Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:44):
Nice brainwashing.
SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
We love to hear it.
SPEAKER_00 (42:48):
Oh, my husband's got him on so much reggae.
I'm like, I gotta bring it backto some Taylor.
SPEAKER_01 (42:52):
Yeah.
I was driving with um the boysearlier, so I'm my mom usually
watched them Wednesday, it'sWednesday, and she's away.
So I took the day off.
I brought him to the children'smuseum, and on the way home, I
was listening to Taylor.
I think it was like honey cameon, and Connor's like, I feel
like I'm driving to school rightnow.
Because I must listen to thatevery day on the way to school.
SPEAKER_03 (43:12):
Let's establish that routine with him and Taylor.
I love it.
Um, well, Maria, this has beenso much fun.
Is there anything that wemissed?
Any last tidbit that you want toshare or no?
SPEAKER_00 (43:24):
I was just thinking about Taylor stuff earlier, and
I know it has nothing to do withnursing stuff, but I was just
remembering like the all toowell Casey's bachelorette
standing on the chairs andstuff.
Like that was kind of one of mylike big not introductions.
I've been with you guys for awhile, but that just is like a
Taylor s little, and we all wentto rep together, like just that
kind of stuff.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:45):
I love that.
I think a lot I say that topeople all the time when I'm
like my Swifty hood is also alot tied into my friends.
Just there's, I mean, we've beenfans for so long.
There's so many experiences thatare like kind of marked by
Taylor.
And yeah, Casey's Bachelorette,totally one of them.
Singing on those chairs, so fun.
SPEAKER_01 (44:01):
Yeah, that is like classic us.
Did you like Taylor before youmet Casey?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:07):
Okay.
Yeah.
But I remember being like havingto listen to all too well like
quite a few times, being like,This is one of the songs for
this group.
Like, I gotta get my stufftogether here.
SPEAKER_01 (44:16):
Yeah, and how crazy is it that that all too well out
the window, never listen to itagain.
It's right now that we have 10minutes.
It's like that one's just gone.
SPEAKER_03 (44:25):
No, it's wild.
Um, well, I hope everyone is asinspired as we are.
You know, Maria, I love yourattitude of, you know, it's all
gonna work out and go for it.
So thank you so much for comingon.
We hope you had a good time.
SPEAKER_00 (44:39):
Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_03 (44:41):
And yeah, we'll be back with another episode on
Friday.
SPEAKER_01 (44:46):
Make sure to like us, follow us, comment at us,
uh, tag us, whatever, at Snitchand Pod on TikTok and Instagram.
Go to our website, snitch andpodcast.com, and tell everyone
you know about us.
Thanks, everyone.
Thanks, Maria.
Thanks, thanks, Maria.
Bye.
unknown (45:02):
Bye.
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