From Barstool to Baseball’s Tribal Chief w/ Jared Carrabis #52

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From Maine's cold coast to Connecticut.
Pride, Vermont. Green hills, take it.
Massachusetts traffic was rippedand we grind with a dunk and
iced coffee and no Peace of Mind.
So shouters from Fenway Chance to Rhode Island tide New

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Hampshire's climb free or die. So New England with thee and
Brown Mill. Good freaking morning from New
England folks and welcome back to episode 52 of the So New
England podcast. I am your host Ian Brownhill,
joined by my Co host Robert Travisano.
All things life's better in New England.
So New England podcast producer.So New England podcast producer

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Vinnie G behind the camera with his handsome face.
And once again, folks, we were on a bit of a hiatus, so this is
our first guest back. We are very excited to have this
individual here. So without further ado, RJ, why
don't you tell us who we have onthe pod today?
Pardon me, I had a little bit too much fun last night at the
statue unveiling ceremony, so this is going to sound.
Real scratchy? Yes, you were.

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Don't you worry because we are back baby and after 51 episodes
you're probably thinking where do they keep finding these
people? Joke's on you because New
England is filled with beautifulpeople that have loads of talent
and here on the so New England podcast where they belong,
that's just what we do. We spread the word of them and

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show our people to the world. Let's get it 52 Roland, our
guest today is a baseball fanatic.
He loves baseball so much I'd have to compare it to how much
Ian loves his more than donkeys.And fun fact, this may have been
the hardest information to find.Usually I try and throw in a
hey, this guy's got blah blah blah following.
My man has his hands in so much.I couldn't do all that math.

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So we're just gonna say it's allof New England.
My man has his hands in everything.
Baseball content, media, news, fantasy, game day coverage, you
name it, he's in it. Whether it's the section 10 POD,
baseball is dead or Nessen the content and always around one
thing. Baseball baby.

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And that's why he is known as the tribal chief of baseball.
So, without further ado, our guest for the triumphant return
of the Sono England Pod. Mr. Jared Karaman.
Wow, that's crazy. Fuck em up, Jared.
Scratch it up. If you want him to do your
morning alarm, you know, we you can hire him part time.

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He loves doing these things. Yeah, that's.
Really get a cameo hopefully. I appreciate it.
Thank. You, Jared.
Thanks for making time and jumping on with us today, my
friend. I appreciate it.
I'm trying to think so the firsttime we got connected was on
Nessen right when we did did your your show on.
Obstructed views. What was that?
Yeah, unobstructed views. I knew I I messed up the name

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and let me tell you. So when Nessen had reached out
to me, I made it very clear to them.
I was like, look guys, I am a fair weather fan.
Like, I watch baseball, but I amnot in it.
I am a football, basketball guy.Like, no, it's cool.
You're going to have Jared. And I was like, thank God,
because if you guys were going to have me, like be way
involved, this was going to be your worst episode yet.
And thank God you carried me through that.
And let me say, if it was a, that was a lot of.

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Fun. It's an interesting concept that
they're working with. And so it's it's basically just
like the the Red Sox version of the Manning cast.
Like they just want people like hanging out on the couch and
watching the game, but having conversations.
And like last year I was kind ofin the driver's seat on it.
This year, like we have Alana Rizzo and she's like an actual
like polished reporter, journalist slash.

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You know, she's she can work thedesk.
So she keeps me and Papabon likein check.
But if you leave it up to me, it's like, you know, the 7th
inning we might be talking aboutthe most like, you know, is the
moon landing real? Like we're we're talking about
that during the baseball game. But it's more on the tracks this
year with like Alana. So you'd probably be more
comfortable this year. Yeah.

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Got it. All right, cool.
I'll have to reach out to NASA and come back on Jared, man,
this is like, I mean, I, I feel like you have been a a staple in
a household name in New England when it comes to social media
presence. Like, you know, from my, my wave
of stardom, you know, was with TikTok.
But I feel like for you, you kind of have been on the wave of

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social media for like a long time.
So tell us about how your media career got started.
Tell us about your love for baseball.
I, I want to hear it all, man. Tell me the.
Story I I feel like it's, it's crazy.
Like, I don't feel old, but whenI talk about my back story, I'm
like, man, this is my 20th season, 20th like, but it's not

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because I'm ancient. It's because I got started when
I was 16 years old. So I started out on Myspace.
And you say that. So still like my girlfriend, she
has two daughters. They're 17 and 12.
They don't even know what Myspace is.
Like they you, you say Myspace, dude.
It's like, it's like talking about when the dinosaurs were

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walking around. But so I basically just, I had a
friend in high school, she was very well versed in HTML and
that really having that one friend that knew how to code
changed my life forever because she taught me how to make my

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personal Myspace page look fancyand like it.
It was all dressed up with like Red Sox logos and pictures and
flashy things and all this stufflike that.
Just that's your standard Myspace page.
Didn't look like that. No, definitely not.
Mine was like Loverboy music every time I got dumped by a
girl And, like, shirtless Hollister photos.

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There's a lot of people. Yeah, a lot.
A lot of. Chingy a lot of TI you know
that's. It man, so.
Then there was this page that was just Red Sox and it was kind
of like the, I guess modern day equivalent to Reddit or a, a
message board, something like that.
It's how we treat it. It's how we used it.

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So it probably had like 3000 friends on it and it was all
just Red Sox fans. And during games, we would just
go there and use the comments section as kind of like a live
chat. It was like a community where we
would just all go and hang out. And then one day I got a message
from that account, 'cause I posted on there frequently and
he saw that like my page was alldressed up with cool Red Sox

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stuff. And he was like, I see you on
here all the time. I see what your page looks like.
I feel like you would do better with this than I could.
Do you just want the login? And I was like, yeah, sure.
So I took over the page once again, hit up my friend with the
HTML. I was like, how do we make this
look like the official Red Sox Myspace page?

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So she helped me out. We did that.
And next thing you know it went from like 3000 friends to
150,000 within like the first year.
This is 2006. Like he.
Wow, that's huge for my that's like that's the equivalent of
like 5 or 10 million honestly. And that day and age like you
didn't really. And so this was this was New

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Year's Eve or New Year's Day, New Year's Day 2006.
So I always miss by 24 hours being able to say I've been
doing it since 2005. But it was New Year's Day 2006.
And yeah, I mean, it's been a roller coaster since then.
And so 2007, the Red Sox win theWorld Series again.
So you have to keep in mind likethe, the wave that the fandom

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was riding coming off in 2004, Like I know in today's world,
like in 2019, by opening day, wehad already forgotten about 2018
because they, they started the season off like 3 and 11 and
everyone was like booed during the ring ceremony.
They got booed because it's likethey just I won a championship
again. I want it now, but I.
Yeah, that is so New England O. Six, we were still pumped about

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O four, it was two years later and we were just like, yeah,
this is still sick. And then when they went again in
O 7, you're just, you're strapping a rocket to my ass
because I now have the keys to the, I guess at the time, the
largest social media Red Sox platform that had ever existed.
So it had gotten so much attention that Major League

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Baseball was like, we're shutting you down.
And I was like, wait a second. What?
Like I like, I thought MLB wouldreach out and be like, Hey, we'd
love to partner with you. Like this is awesome.
But they, they shut me down because I had, I had a buddy
that like, it's so strange, likemy existence being 1617 years

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old and the people that I was able to like network with and
connect with as a teenager that had an impact on my career.
Like there's this dude Michael, he's a San Francisco Giants fan,
but he was like a Giants and RedSox fan.
So at at the time, I didn't, I don't think that there was like
video clipping or anything like that, but you could make a GIF

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and he was making me like Red Sox GIFs of like home runs and
whatever. And I was posting them.
And that's when MLB came for me.They were like, that's illegal,
you can't do that. And they took down my whole
page. I was devastated.
Page got shut down. A week goes by, I get a message
in my DMSI think that someone's messing with me.
It's Tom from Myspace. Like the TomTom, Yeah.

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Oh my God, no way. That is royalty.
Right there. And he goes, hey, I heard about
what MLB is trying to do. I don't worry.
I've got my lawyers on this. We're going to get your page
back. He's like, I, I saw it in like
the, the cash. You know how like, you can like,
look at something that like whatever he's like.

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I saw it in like the cash. It's, it looks sick.
We're going to get it back. And I was like, all right, Tom
from Myspace, Like, hell yeah, let's go.
How many people get Adm from Tomever?
That's insane. And you got Tom going up to bat.
For you, Tom from Myspace. I'm not sitting here with you
today, that's for damn sure. Yeah.

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Wow, that is a what a story to have Myspace.
At the rescue, we got the page back and pretty much it
coincided with the the Red Sox held a held an election for
president of Red Sox Nation and it like when they first
announced it, it was like Ben Affleck, Dennis Leary, Matt

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Damon, like all these Boston celebrities, like anyone that's
loosely affiliated with Boston. They were in like the running
for this thing. But because of a, the following
of it, it was called Sock space because of the sock space
following and because of like people were fired up that MLB

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took it down and there was just like this rah rah, like let's
get behind Jared. I got voted in on like I got
written in so many times that I ended up making the top 10 of
this thing. And they had, do you know,
remember Tim Russert from Meet the Press?
That one doesn't ring a bell. We.

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Used to moderate the presidential debates, like real
presidential debates, OK. And they had a Red Sox Nation
president debate at BU and I made the top 10 or top 8 at that
point or whatever. So I'm up is I'm 18 years old,
18 years old for like, the shyest kid in the world.

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I was class president my junior year and like, faked laryngitis
so that I didn't have to speak in front of like, my own
friends, like my own class. Now I'm on stage at Boston
University with Tim Russert as the moderator.
Jerry Remy is the podium next tome.
It was crazy like it. And, and we end up having this

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debate and I I end up finishing third for president of a Red Sox
nation. So it's just very just like,
hey, kids, like, you know, birth, birth that's on fire.
Yeah, that's very crazy. That's like, that's how it
started. Basically.
It was Myspace. And like, that election was like
my first introduction to ever being on camera or on TV.

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That is insane. That's so cool.
What an awesome story. That is so much cooler than
being like, yeah, the world got COVID and I started dancing on
TikTok. That is what an insane story
comparison wise. Now where did your like?
Where did the love and the passion for baseball come from?
Like I want to rewind a little bit like the.
Youth. You.
You. I mean, avid baseball player I'm
imagining and you just like certain player that you grew up

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inspired by. Tell me a little bit about that.
That we're having this conversation right now because I
woke up maybe an hour and a halfago and I never remember my
dreams, but last night I had. It was kind of like a lucid
dream, like, you know, that you're dreaming, but like you're
in control. And yeah, so, yeah, like, so I,

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I've had season tickets since 98when they traded for Pedro.
We went from Bruins season tickets to Red Sox season
tickets. So I, but I've always loved
baseball. I've never played anything else.
But when I was a kid, I, I wasn't the best baseball player,
but I definitely loved it more than everyone else.

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And my coach, he was an asshole.And he was, yeah, he was my best
friend's dad. And it's like, yeah, like, I'll
have you on the team, but I'm never gonna let you play.
And I had a dream last night where I haven't seen him since,
I don't know, 7th grade or whatever.

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Confronting him about, like, howhe tried to, like, stifle my
love for the game and, like, never really gave me, like, a
true chance to prove myself or anything.
Like, it was always like this. It felt personal, which is weird
to to say about an adult to likea child, but like, it did feel
personal. Yeah.

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So like I had like a very real, like, I almost like woke up like
speaking what I was about to like, finish my sentence with my
talking to this guy. But yeah, like, I wasn't, I
wasn't a very good baseball player, but I loved it more than
everyone else. It's just, you know, travel
ball, like going to Cooperstown,like playing in all these like

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AAU tournaments and Jimmy Fun league and winter ball.
Like it wasn't like I played T-ball and then I played Little
League and then I played some JVand that was it.
Like, no, I I played year round my entire life.
And for someone that wasn't verygood.
That takes dedication to be like, I suck at this, but I love
it. So I'm going to show up and I'm

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going to be here. And that's kind of like, I guess
the same approach that I I took with this job is I don't think I
suck at this. I think I'm pretty good.
But like, it's my way of, you know, I can't go out there and
play baseball. Like I would never not going to
play professionally, but I love it so much that I'm going to

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show up every single day. And the way that I, I guess give
back to the game is not by playing it, it's by making
content. And then, you know, like the
last week and the weekend before, there was that kid, that
2 year old kid on TikTok that was crying saying like, I want
to go to Fenway Park. And I was like, let's go.
Like, let's go then, you know, like.

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Big. Deal.
Yeah, I still remember like my, like we didn't grow up poor or
anything, but like my parents weren't splurging on me or any
or by any means, you know, like I think I remember sitting
second row and Monday Night Raw in 1999, I was 10 years old and
I was like, that was like the one childhood splurge where it

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was like, we're doing this thingthat you want to do and we're
doing it big. And like to this day, I, I'm in
my mid, mid 30s and I still, I still like feel that and know
what it feels like. So having this job and the, the
connections with the Red Sox, tobe able to just snap my fingers
and and give that feeling to someone else, it's awesome.

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Like it, it's like that's the best part of the gig is like
when you're someone's like, hey,you know, my and my dad is in
his 70s. His lifelong dream is to go
inside the monster and and sign inside there.
Can you make it happen? Yep, like you tell me when and
like, hey, like my dad, he he his dream is to be on the
grounds crew. Can we do like grounds crew for

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a day, call up, you know, like someone on the grounds crew.
Hey, this we got this guy. He's got a great story.
Yep, come on down, we'll make ithappen.
So like that's, that's the coolest part about it is getting
to do stuff like that. Absolutely, absolutely.
And I think it's a testament just to who you are as a person.
The fact that with the platform that you've created, that you

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have been so abundant and sharing that experience with so
many people who are just as passionate about the sport.
Because, you know, I feel like baseball as a whole, having
grown up, been, like I had mentioned before, more of a
basketball, football guy. It's always when you're in that
particular world, but it's always been like, well,
baseball's America's sport. I'm like, yeah, but I kind of

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sucked at baseball. So I didn't really play much.
I struck out in T-ball and I kind of just like hung it up and
was like, this is it for me. So I, you know, it's so
incredible to see the passion that true baseball fans have,
especially here in Boston. It's like the first time I went
to Fenway and experienced it, I was like, wow, OK, I get it now.
Like the energy here, the passion, the love that people

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have it. It really is insane and like the
like you've obviously seen feverpitch like.
Of course. There's that scene in Fever
Pitch where he's like, you know,you love the, you love the Red
Sox, but have they ever loved you back?
And he's implying like, you know, you put all your all this
time and energy into something where there's no return.
Complete opposite for me. Like, I love the Red Sox.

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They fuck, they love me back allthe time, like all the time.
So it's right. It's it's really cool that, you
know, I think to your point, we grew up sucking at baseball, but
we also grew up during a time where there's never been a
better time to be a Red Sox fan.So even if you're not
necessarily good at baseball or the sport, it's like, OK, but

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it's the game can still capture you through the Boston Red Sox
and growing up with like O 407-1318 like it's there's never
been a better time. And now we're about to be on
another run where it's amazing. I don't know about like, you
know, World Series or anything like that.
You never know the 13. It just kind of popped up out of
nowhere. But they're building like a

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pretty sustainable product rightnow.
And that's why I'm like, all right, like, let's let's get
more kids involved. You know, let's let's get more
kids interested in baseball. So where I work, there's a lot
of people from all over the country and we have a lot of
baseball guys on our floor, and none of them are Red Sox fans
because they're from different places.
But what they always say is thatwhen they go to Fenway to watch

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their team play, the history that is in Fenway and just what
it entails is like none other. They're like, I've been to parks
all over the country. It's just not the same.
How do you feel about that? What?
What does that make you feel when you?
Yeah, I mean, it's about that. I, I feel like at times we take
it for granted that Fenway's in our backyard.

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You know, I, I feel like in 2000.
So I when I was a kid, I used togo to Baltimore all the time.
Like, my first Major League ballpark experience that wasn't
Fenway was Camden Yards in 2001.Went there again in O 4, did the
old Yankee Stadium in O 8 the last year.
But through this job now I'm going to, you know, ballparks

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all the time. So now it gives me more of an
appreciation cuz you know, like you go to you go to Camden
Yards, you're like, this is cool.
But like Larry Lucchino helped build it.
So it's like it's got that Fenway vibe to it.
And then the old Yankee Stadium,you're like, man, like this is
kind of a shithole. But it's also that like you feel
the history while you're there. But with this job now, it's

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like, you know, you get to see every ballpark and you're like,
there's character missing in like some of these parks.
And there's not really much history to talk about in some of
these parks. But then you go to places like
Wrigley and you're like, OK, like, you know, like there's,
there's parks where it's like, it is really cool other places.
But it does give you an appreciation.

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And you, I think most of us takeFenway for granted.
Like the fact that it's just right there.
Yeah. And like you can go.
There whenever. You want.
And it's just, it's not that I get numb to it because there is
an energy that you just, it's palpable, like you feel it the
second that you walk in there. But I think there's also this
element of like, yeah, I could go there whenever I want.

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So, you know, it's not that special.
But like, no, it is like it's, it's really cool to be able to
go there. Yeah.
It really is, yeah, 'cause I dida, we did a Spartan Race a few
years ago, like right after COVID kind of simmered down and
they were letting people do stuff again, and it was all
through Fenway. We started at the top, like took
an elevator up and it was all through the entire park.

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And I mean, obviously I was doing all the events and stuff,
so I didn't really get a chance to do it.
But that was like my first real time as an adult 'cause I think
I went once, as with all the guys, like at a random time.
But I didn't appreciate it for what it was.
And then we did an episode a couple months ago and it was so
surreal, just like being there to take it all in, like soak in

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the history, just that, like it.It's a different feeling.
I've never felt that. And like, I love going to
Foxborough. I love being at Gillette.
I love watching the Pats. Football's always been my sport.
But it just hit different in Fenway.
And I don't know, I felt like that was just the aura of the
park. I had to ask.
It's definitely sick. And when I I had lived in
Florida for a small stint and when I was there, I was it was

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right when Marlins Park had opened up like their new
stadium. And I was like, this place is
like so sick and futuristic and like the Half Dome and like the
turf. And I was like, it's really
cool. It's definitely like modern and
beautiful. But it felt like a stadium, you
know what I mean? It didn't feel like I was at
like a baseball game. It felt like I was at a sporting
event. I don't know if that's a good

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way to put it, but that's kind of like when I go to Fenway, I'm
like, yeah, this is baseball. Like this is what it should look
and feel like versus going to these other places.
I'm like, this is just a very expensive evening.
Sometimes I get Fenway sick. I'll go to these other ballparks
and I'll sit there and like, this isn't Fenway.
I don't know if I like this. I kind of wanna go back to

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Fenway right now. Yeah.
I mean, it, it, it depends. Like, you know, some of like
Dodger Stadium is cool. It always helps, like the Fenway
sickness. It helps if you're there to
watch the Red Sox on the road. But like, I'll go like, I've
been to like on Opening Day, we were in Saint Louis to see the
Cardinals versus the Twins. And I'm just like, why?
Why am I here? Not like where the Red Sox are.

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But yeah, I think like if you'venever had the chance to go to
Wrigley, the area is really cool.
They've kind of like built up that whole area.
And when you go to a Cubs game at Wrigley, not that, you know,
Red Sox fans show out and everything like that, but what's
really cool is everyone is wearing a Cubs T-shirt or a
jersey or something. Like everyone has Cubs gear on

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like Fenway during the summer. It's like, you know, there's,
there's gonna be, you know, yoursun dresses and there's gonna
be, you know, your dudes and their muscle TS because they're,
they're going out to the bars after you go to a Cubs game.
That's not a lot. Like everyone's wearing Cubs
stuff. Yeah, no kidding.
That's cool. So what is it like then being
like a Red Sox fan in other stadiums?

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Do you have like any funny stories like or what's like your
best and worst experience like wearing socks merch in other
places? Like do you do you get?
Harassed like people do here in Boston when they're wearing the
opposing. Teams merch.
So like, I usually don't even. It depends.
I don't really wear Red Sox stuff because I have press
passes. Like I can't wear like a Red Sox

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jersey on the field. So like, but that doesn't matter
'cause like I'll still get like recognized in other ballparks.
You would think that like my worst experiences would be at
Yankee Stadium, but like, it happens 95% of the time.
My interactions with Yankee fansare God, I hate you, but like, I

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respect you, you know? Hey, that's good, man.
That's a good place to. Be man like you annoy me so
much. I was at the All Star game or
the IT was either the All Star game or the Home Run Derby.
Yankee fan came up to me and he was like, I just have to show
you like I have you blocked on Twitter and like he showed me
his phone that like unblocked. He's like, I hate you so much.

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But like, God, is that such a skill to be able to get under
people's skin so easily. It's hilarious.
Yankee Stadium. I've never actually.
OK, so I have like a couple stories.
These are both from 2018. I remember there was, I, I was

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there when the Yankee I, it wasn't even the Red Sox, It was
the Yankees versus the A's. Cause the Red Sox won the
division. So the Yankees had to play the
A's in the wild card game to seewho plays the Red Sox in the
division series. And I'm up there in like the
upper deck or whatever and I'm mouthing off because I'm like,
you're playing for the right to play me.

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I don't even have to be like I'mhere.
Like they were chirping me that I have bad seats and I was like,
I didn't pay for the like you paid for your seats, I didn't
pay for mine. And you're playing for the right
to have to play me. Like I don't even have to be
here right now. And there's like, I don't, so I
know why. But like it's also like the most
annoying thing in the world. People think that I'm 5 foot 4

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because Coley is 6-8. You know, Pat Light 66.
I'm with monsters all the time, like alien sized monster human
beings. I we just, we just did a video
with Hosmer and he's like, you know, you're you're, you're
taller than I thought you were. I was like, yeah, dude, like I'm

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not short. I'm not like I'm an average
high. I wouldn't describe you wouldn't
see me walking down the street and be like, look at that.
Look at that little person. I was like, I was like, how
tall? I was like, how tall do you
think I am? Like because he's 6/4.
So I looked tiny. Like we did a shot of us walking
down the street on Jersey St. and I was like, how tall do you
think I am? He's like, I don't know, 5-11.

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I was like, I tell people 511, I'm like 510 3/4.
So when people meet me, they're like, oh, I, I didn't realize,
but I was at Yankee Stadium and obviously it's like tiered
seating or whatever. And I was looking at the seats
behind me and there was 4 Yankeefans that were sitting like, I

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don't know, five rows up. So like they're looking down at
me and he's like sharpening me. He's like you Midget blah blah
54 this and that. I turn.
Around and I look at him and like, you know how like people
even if like you're not like eyeto eye you can tell they're
short. So I just I was like, yeah, I
looked at him and I was like, come down here right now.

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I was like, I know I was like, I'm definitely taller than you
and he's like, no, no, no, I waslike, no, no, come down here
right now and like all of his buddies were like, oh shit like
you gotta so he comes down to mylevel and I just put my chin on
his head. I was like, you are like you're
telling me I'm short. Like what planet am I on then?

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Then so our it had gotten so badwith all like the the threats
like I get I'm it's less now because the Red Sox haven't been
good, but at the time just getting death threats from
Yankee fans when they were playing each other in in 2018, I
remember my dad driving me to the train station to go to back
to New York after the Red Sox won the 1st or they split.

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They split the first two in Boston, and then they went back
to New York to finish the series.
And I remember him driving me tothe train station.
He was just like, just short, quick jabs.
He's just like, he's like, you know, like, you know, don't like
if you get into like, he's like no haymakers.
He's like short, quick jabs, like try and break the nose,
like. OK, All right, Dad.

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And. Yeah, because I mean like I the,
I think the person who was filming my stuff was a woman and
then I was doing videos with hubs.
Who is 1/3 of my size. So if I, if I have people trying
to fight me, I am on my own. It's just me.
So, and it was Game 4, the Red Sox, I believe the score was 4

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to 1 going into the 9th inning. And then the Yankees started
mounting A comeback and we were sitting, I don't know, 15 rows
from the field like we were, we were in like the nicer seats.
You wouldn't expect activity like this.
But there were like, I, I specifically told the person

(29:53):
filming don't like, like film, like when you film us film tight
so that people don't know where we are.
Like, don't show like any landmarks for people to be able
to find us. First video.
It's like they're right here. So over the course of the game,
as like Yankee fans are getting closer to accepting the fact

(30:14):
that their season is about to end at the hands of the Boston
Red Sox and I'm about to dance on their grave, more and more
Yankee fans are finding out like, he's right there.
So people, there was like a dudethat was like in the same row as
me that was like trying to like reach over at me.
There was a guy. I should have gotten his name.

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What an Angel Yankee fan. He's wearing a Yankee polo
sitting directly behind me. He just leans into my ear.
This is in the 9th inning, so like the Yankees are mounting
the comeback and I think it got to like 4-3 and it was like
bases loaded like the IT was theloudest stadium environment
ever. Like it felt like like all hell

(30:55):
is about to break loose. He leans into my ear and he
goes, I don't know who the fuck you are, but if if anything goes
down, I got your back. Like it had gotten to the point
where complete strangers had recognized like this could
potentially be really bad for this guy.
I don't know what's going on, but like people are very angry
at this dude and it it might notend well.

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Like it he's on as well. So I was like, thanks.
Like, like, what do you say to that?
You know, like, like now you're freaking out being like, oh man,
like am I about to get like jumped?
Like, are people going to be, like, waiting for me outside the
stadium? It didn't stop me from, you
know, like, they get eliminated and I'm, like, screaming and I'm
like, you know, yeah, go fuck yourself.

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So I, yeah, that was a that was a very tense moment at Yankee
Stadium. But then in the World Series,
man, for the reputation that Dodger fans have and maybe maybe
it was just like I got the one in a million.
But there is a Dodger fan there that was getting really mouthy

(31:58):
with me. But now I'm with Dallas and
Dallas grew up in Stockton, CA and he don't play.
So like I just had a completely different air of confidence
because I was like, I got back up and I know that this man will
kill for me if it if it comes down to it.
So there was a Dodger fan there.He was melting off.

(32:20):
I start melting off back. The Red Sox were losing 4
nothing. And we call him Dodger score guy
'cause he was like, it's 4 nothing, 4 nothing.
And I'm like, and then as they continue to mount up, like I
kept asking what's the score? And he's like 4-4.
I'm like, yeah, that's right, That's right, dude.

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Like it's 44. And then they ended up coming
back taking the lead. And then I was like, where's
Dodger score guy? And then like the the people
sitting with him, like he left, dude, he's gone.
And I was like, Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah, he did. But yeah, it's mostly fun.
I would say that that Division Series experience was the only
time where I was like, well, I guess I gotta take my dad's

(33:02):
advice and like, just get ready to throw punches.
And but yeah, it thankfully didn't come to that because the
Red Sox won. I think if the Yankees completed
the comeback and they walked offthe Red Sox in that game, like
how rowdy it was, I think that burst of energy into the fan
base, I can't sit here and tell you that I wouldn't have gotten

(33:24):
attacked or something. At least, at least clocked once.
Just like a haymaker while you're walking by is catching a
stray like the the energy. I fucking hate New York dude.
They're the worst. It was a.
Very. Is there any rivalry bigger than
Boston versus New York? Like it just in sports in
general, Like I know like Celtics and Lakers have always

(33:45):
gone out in the Finals. But I tell you, the energy in
the air when it's like the Celtics and the Knicks or it's
the Sox and the Yankees or it's the I mean, even last night we
were at the Patriots home openeror, you know, pre season home
opener with Tom Brady's statue and Tom threw a jab at Jets
fans. He was like, now The Jets have a
statue to, you know, throw something at when they're

(34:06):
leaving in the second. I was like, fuck yeah, Is there
anything bigger? What do you think?
Do you think Yankees and Red Soxis the biggest rivalry ever in
like all of. Sports.
Either that or like Pablo Sandoval versus diabetes, but I
think for the most part it's gotto be Sox Yanks.
Yeah, I love it. All right, so so you, you, your,

(34:28):
your career takes off with Myspace and then it goes from
from that to Twitter and then you get to barstool type.
Walk us through that. How did you end up there like?
Another crazy story, I I met notmet like online met Dave in like
2007. Like I started reading Barstool
when I was a senior in high school because and like another

(34:49):
tie in, like I started working at Sully's and Chris Wren who
owns and operates Sully's, he introduced me to Barstool and
now Sully's does Section 10 merch and baseball is dead
merch, which is awesome. We could talk about that later,
but he introduced me to Barstool.
I ended up like connecting with Dave on Facebook.

(35:10):
And I at the time was more squeaky clean content.
Like I didn't swear when I wroteor posted on social media.
Like I didn't cover any like edgy topics, but I found them
interesting and that's how I talked in real life.
Like I swear a lot. So if I saw something that was
more Barstool material, I would send it to Dave and then Dave

(35:33):
would put it on the blog. Hat Tip Jared.
Like if there's ever like a hat tip Jared in 2008, like he's
talking about me. So we kind of like built that
relationship where, you know, this guy knows our tone, like
this guy understands what Barstool is about.
And then in 2011, they had the New England the New England
Sports Blog Awards and Dave was the host.

(35:58):
So it was best Red Sox, Bruins, Patriots, Celtics, and then best
overall New England sports blog were the awards that were given
out. I won best Red Sox blog was
like, thank you very much. Went back to my night and just
started like, you know, I was like, I'm not winning best
overall, so I'm just gonna startdrinking.
So then it gets announced like best overall New England sports

(36:21):
blog Jared Carrabba's Sox based.And I'm like, whoa, OK, go up
there. And I'm like, it's like, the
only reason why I won this is because Barstool wasn't
nominated. And I like, I'm sure it's a very
forgettable, minuscule moment inDave's life.
But I remember looking at his facial reaction, he was like,

(36:42):
oh, OK. Like he was like caught off
guard that it was like my moment, but I kind of gave it to
him. I did win a Free TV.
It's still in my parents basement, which is sick.
Like I'm never giving up that TV.
Like that's really my trophy. But yeah, I don't know if that
ever, like meant anything in terms of like, eventually, like,
we want this guy because he's obviously a Barstool fan.

(37:03):
And like, that was his moment. He gave it to Barstool.
But in 2014, I was part of the on field ceremony for Red Sox
Nation Day at Fenway Park. And this was like a continuation
of like, you know, the Red Sox Nation president.
The next year they had governors.

(37:23):
So it's like, Jared, you didn't win president, but you're the
governor of Massachusetts for a Red Sox nation.
So basically like the fan representative for
Massachusetts. And they had Red Sox Nation Day.
And so in in the playoffs in 2013, David Price gave up two
home runs to David Ortiz. The second one, Poppy, like

(37:46):
watched it. This was in the division series
in 2013. This was their first time facing
each other in 2014. So I'm on the field before the
game, pregame ceremony. And my girlfriend at the time,
she, you know, prototypical, like, like blonde, blue eyed
girl. And so she was down on the field

(38:08):
taking pictures of me. And during this game, David
Price drills David Ortiz. So now there's that story.
Then Nessen zoomed in on with mygirlfriend at the time and then
everyone started sending pictures of their TV to Barstool
being like send out the smoke patrol at Fenway, blah blah

(38:28):
blah. So then Feidelberg blogged.
Hell yeah. Feidelberg blogged Price hitting
Ortiz, but then included in thatblog, oh by the way, like Sup
girl, like hey girl or somethinglike that.
And then like, so in 2014, I probably had like, like Myspace
had died. So like that was over and I

(38:49):
probably have like 3000 Twitter followers.
So like people I guess, like RedSox people like knew who I was,
but like definitely didn't have like a huge platform or
anything. And people started tweeting at
Feidelberg being like, yo, like that's Carabas's girlfriend,
blah, blah, blah. So then Feidelberg followed me
and we started talking about, you know, like, why aren't and

(39:11):
why aren't you our Red Sox Blogger for Barstool?
Like what? What's going on here?
And so then he connect like we'dall talked to Dave and Dave was
like, well, he has his own blog.Like I thought that he was good,
you know, doing his own blog. And I was like, you think like
I'm I'm in the independent league.
You think I don't want to play in the big leagues?
Like, what are we talking about?Like, of course I would.
I would rather be the the Barstool Red Sox guy.

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And then it came together prettyquick.
Like by the end of that season, I was waiting to finish college.
Like I finished college that summer.
And then I was like, let me justcuz, let me just see if I can
work for the Red Sox. Let me just interview there, see
if I can get a job there. And if that doesn't work out,
then I'll go to bar stool. And I guess like Long story

(39:57):
short there, it didn't work out.I'm not bitter anymore that it
didn't work out. But at the time I was pretty
bitter because I interviewed with like 7 different
departments. And then you know how they're
like, well, you know, if, if we hired you today, what ideas do
you have for us? And it was one of those.

(40:17):
And I gave them an idea. And then in September or
October, one of my buddies that works there was like.
You know, hey, like we got this.Like I, I told him that.
I gave him this idea. He's like, that was your idea.
I was like, yeah, I was like, why?
He's like, well, they just created a whole department and,

(40:39):
like hired someone to do that. And I was like, oh.
Ready, bastard. Interesting.
Got on the phone with Dave. I was like, let's go.
I was like, let's do it. I was like fuck them, like let's
go. So yeah, that's how I ended up
at Barstool. That's like the perfect time
frame too 'cause I don't think especially with social media,

(40:59):
people don't understand what barstool was before like the the
social media boom cause like Myspace was big.
But like you said and you know, you attested 300,000 followers,
probably a couple million nowadays.
But like you see the TikTok and the Instagram and all these
different apps and stuff that wasn't a thing in 2012.

(41:21):
Thirteen comparable to like whatit is now where like it was just
a very, very big block. Because I remember the first
time I heard about it, I played lacrosse at Nichols College and
we were talking about the stickers, the Viva la stool
stickers, because I was like, Oh, that's such a cool sticker.
What a what is it? And then from there I was like,

(41:41):
oh, this is so cool. And then, you know, we had one
girl from our school get a smokeshow post then whatever it was.
And you know, she was king dingling for two weeks.
It was so great. But like, I don't think, and I
think that's where people don't really understand, like when
Dave does what Dave does, why hecan do that.
Yeah, I mean he's. Because of where it came from

(42:02):
and how fascinating that whole journey was.
So it's cool because I feel like, I mean, I know you
mentioned 2006, 2007, 2008, but like I, I feel like you were
part of like at least the start of it and that's fucking so.
Point #13 In the company, yeah. I think it was like, I think
Trent is 12, I'm 13 and Caleb's 14.

(42:26):
So it was right in there. That's insane.
Yeah. And like the way that I always
describe it because I mean, likeI said, I started reading in O 7
and like, you know, like when it's so it's so crazy when
people like, yeah, like I'm aog stoolie.
I started reading in like 2017. I'm like, bro, I I was in for 10
years before you got there. But so like I'm a Metallica fan

(42:52):
and Jason Newstead was a die hard Metallica fan and then got
to play bass for Metallica and was also part of some of their
most popular albums. That's how I feel like.
I wasn't in the beginning, but Iwas there for a lot of the good
stuff, and I'm not there now andthey're still succeeding without

(43:14):
me. But I was there for, like, the
Black Album, you know, like the,the, the, yeah.
That's a great way to put it. HQ 2, the birth of HQ 2 and then
the first few years of HQ 3 and like the the SiriusXM era, like
I was there for some of the bestshit and to be a fan for, you

(43:38):
know, whatever it was seven years and get to see it from the
outside and then get to be on the inside for another seven
years. That was really cool.
And I mean, the whole experiencelike shaped me.
Like it was like I always kind of.
And so I interviewed Manny Ramirez and his son in June.

(43:59):
And Manny the dad, he still works out every day, still hits
like 3-4 times a week. He's like 50 something years
old. And so then I asked Manny
Junior. I was like, this is got to be
the biggest motivation that you've got is like, if Manny is
doing this, then what's your excuse to not be working just as
hard, if not harder? And at Barstool, it was like,

(44:23):
Dave has $200 million and he's working harder than all of us.
So like, what's our excuse? You know, like, he could just,
he could do nothing. He could just sit there and
collect and have Barstool be itsown just like self fulfilling
business and he can just sit behind a desk and collect.
He's not, he's doing like 7 pizza reviews and then showing

(44:46):
up for this event and you know, doing the rundown and then, you
know, hopping on his phone making a social video.
So like that was kind of a big thing that shaped me and like my
work ethic was if you're not at least matching Dave, what's your
excuse? You know, like that was how I
looked at it. And even now I've been gone for,

(45:10):
I don't know, three years almost.
It's still in my brain where, you know, you wake up and it's
like, we make pretty good money.But like, what's your, what's
your excuse to not work just as hard like there's or like, keep
reinventing yourself. Like Dave, Dave, it, it, this is
more of like a compliment. Like he takes everything that I

(45:31):
say as a slight, but it's more of a compliment.
He's not the same guy. He was when, when I first got
hired there, when we first movedto New York, like in 2020, he
like started doing like the, the, the day trading stuff and
going on Fox News. Before it was like, don't talk
about politics. Now he's very political.
And that's open up another audience for him.

(45:52):
Like he's continued to grow because of that.
So yeah, like the fact that he continues to reinvent himself
and there's, there's people thatare like, oh, he's the, he's the
pizza guy. He's the Fox News guy, he's the
BF FS guy, he's the TikTok guy. Oh, that's the guy that's
beefing with Zach Bryant. Like, or that like, you know,
that's the old school bar schoolguy.
Like he, there's so many different ways that people know

(46:13):
him. So that's kind of how like I
approach things is like, what are you doing that's different?
What are you doing? What are you doing right now?
That's that's building somethingand I like I don't want this to
turn to like a blow Dave hour, but I think, you know, people
have a certain perception about him as rough around the edges

(46:36):
and he I think he lacks he I think he definitely has some
sort of like disorder where he lacks empathy.
But at the same time, I mean, helike look at his track record of
not firing people that he could have fired.
Look at I know that he, you know, he'll, he'll use like the
barstool fund and stuff like that as a means to prop himself

(46:57):
up. But I think as far as being a
boss, like keeping people employed, making sure people are
good, never cutting people out, like if there's one person I
could think of that he fired, itwas Francis.
And like, I felt like his hands were tied and he still brought
him back after, you know, like he like, he has this like,
loyalty to his people where if you're loyal to him, he's loyal

(47:20):
to you. And it's kind of like this, like
handshake. Ironclad agreement, 100%.
But yeah. And he just started on, he's
going to do game college game day too now, right?
He just started with that too. It's like the guy does do a lot.
What do you think about like theonline 'cause you're like, you
know, obviously you know, you have the Section 10 podcast,
you're obviously very heavy involved in baseball.

(47:42):
So let's just say as a formality, you're a sports guy.
What is the notion for you that Barstool has kind of gotten away
from being the sports aspect of Barstool Sports, right, 'cause
like when it started, it definitely had that very sports
heavy energy. And then it was like it kind of
became about the attractive girls.
And then it started being like these social media videos.

(48:04):
Like a prime example is, is they've used some of my videos
before and they like, well, DM me and be like, hey, can we like
repost this? And it's like, yeah, I guess,
like, why not? It's like, it's free exposure
for me. But then it does, like, numbers
on their pages because of their following.
And it doesn't really amount to much exposure for me in return,
where people, like, will follow me from it because people just

(48:25):
get there. But it's become such a social
media mogul now, too, that, like, it doesn't always have
that sports energy to it where it's kind of like, OK, now I'm
just watching a video of, like, a really drunk girl on a boat.
I don't understand what this hasto do with sports.
Like what is what is your feeling about that?
Like as a sports guy? And it's not like a a slight ad
Dave or or barstool. It's just like, you know, like

(48:46):
that's what works. But also I'm, I'm not a huge fan
of like publicly embarrassing people even.
And I guess I have too much empathy.
Like even when people are wrong,I'm like, OK, let them be wrong
in private. They're probably beating
themselves up and have a lot of people in their close life that
hate them. Like, let's not shame them all
over barstool social media for falling off of the table when

(49:07):
they were 21 and drinking. I don't know.
But anyways, what what's your, what's your thought about how
they've expanded outside of the sports?
Stuff So I mean, that was definitely something in the
office that we would always say like if, if there was like this,
if the story of the day had nothing to do with sports, then
people would like mockingly be going around the office being
like, I thought it was Barstool Sports and like, where's the

(49:28):
sports? Like that was just kind of like
a, a almost a daily occurrence, but for me.
So like like Dunkin' Donuts, didthey drop the Donuts?
Is it just Dunkin? Do they want it?
I feel like they want it to dropthe.
Yeah, that's, yeah, as a as a Dunkin Rep, I'm not supposed to
legally be talking about it, butthere was actually a claim to

(49:51):
the word donut and that is why they had to drop the donut and
they just called it Duncan like someone owned the right.
Got it. So I, I want to say like Dave
forever has wanted to drop the sports because it's like it like
the whole theme of barstool is this is what guys talk about
while sitting on a barstool at abar.
So it they they talk about sports when you're at the bar,
but you also talk about chicks and you talk about like a funny

(50:14):
video that you saw and stuff like that.
So I think it it would have donethe company wonders to have
dropped the sports. I don't know why they didn't or
or maybe they tried to, I don't know.
Maybe it's just like brand recognition.
I'm not sure. But I remember as as far back as
like 2015, like Dave was like blogging about Justin Bieber all

(50:35):
the time. Like it was never just about
sports. Never.
And like in the beginning, it was a meal.
In the beginning, it was like, it was a, it was like a, a, a
gambling magazine. So it was just, you know, sports
and picks and horse racing and this and that.
But once it became A blog, it was never just about sports.
And maybe to your point, there was more of an emphasis on

(50:57):
sports, but it was always like the, the I, I, it's he should
have had like a company because it was like for the common man
by the common man. It, it should have been more of
an emphasis on like this. This is what guys talk about on
the barstool, like at a bar, like at a bar or whatever.
Then people would have been like, oh, OK, I get it, I get

(51:17):
it. But I think for me, there was
definitely a transition period where you could see that it
wasn't that barstool got away from sports.
It was that there was more content that wasn't sports.
And at first, you know, being like an OG barstool guy, I was

(51:38):
like, man, like I are we are we losing our identity?
Are we gonna lose audience because we're not the like what
everyone is used to. If you consume the content
before, but then you're like, no, this is a good thing.
Like for example, chicks in the office, they they don't talk
about sports. They talk about celebrity

(51:59):
gossip. And that is kind of like what
what Dave was doing, like he wastalking about like, what was his
name? Adam Lambert, the American Idol
guy that's with Queen. He he covered that guy like like
crazy. And then like the Bieber stuff.
But it's like, OK, like, well, there's plenty of women out
there. Why don't we create an audience

(52:21):
for women? And then here come the chicks in
the office. And it was great that they kind
of went one for one right off the bat.
Like, well, first of all, there was Jenna Marble.
She's like the OG woman at Barstool but.
Love Jenna Marble, she was. Before her time though, the
YouTube queen she was before hertime.
But like Ree and Fran come in and like they create this

(52:42):
monster brand that is predominantly, if not
exclusively women. And it's unlike anything that
Barstool's ever done before. But it's like, all right, well,
now we're branching out. That's a good thing.
And the way that I saw it was even, I'm not even talking about
like the, the, you know, branching into like the women

(53:02):
content, but like there would becontent that guys were making
where I'm like, this isn't for me.
But if people like it, great. You know, like, what the fuck do
I care if, if you guys have an audience and people are spending
money and that money is coming back into the pool and we're all
winning, what does it matter if I find you funny or interesting?

(53:25):
Like I it's you're winning, I'm winning, everyone's winning.
And yeah, there was definitely some, I guess, like intercompany
competition, but like, that's, that's good too.
Like you want, Yeah, it's kind of healthy, competitive.
A little bit. I mean, overall, definitely
pivoting in that direction definitely was the smarter

(53:47):
decision because it became Barstool Media.
Where it's like now you have a media company that's controlled
by the consumer and the creatorsaren't influenced by these mega
billionaire back donors. Where it's like now you have an
audience for the men, the women,you've got an audience for
sports, you've got an audience for comedy, you've got an
audience for politics. It's like essentially it's like

(54:09):
become its own media mobile company where you like, I don't
feel like watching Fox or CNN. I'm going to tune into Barstool
to see what everyone's kind of talking about, like with the
variety of podcasts and social media clips and different stuff.
So but you're an OG man. You are the building blocks.
You are the foundation that the house will forever stand on.

(54:29):
And I think that is completely, you know, commendable.
So Congrats on that and all the amazing.
Work you did. I don't know.
I don't know if Dave sees it that way, but yeah, I mean, I, I
was, I was in the Milton office.Like there was.

(54:50):
I don't know if you guys remember the, the video of when
he got Justin Bieber's tattoos, like spray painted on him or
whatever, but there's like a rundown where he's shirtless and
he had, he had like Bieber's like that.
That was my first day in the Milton office.
So it, I feel like if, if you goback that far, then like you

(55:10):
could probably stay acclaimed tobeing one of the Ogs.
But yeah, man, it's cool to see how they've evolved.
I mean, I still talk to, I don't, I don't really talk to
Dave anymore, but I, it's not like he's not like a keep in
touch kind of guy. I think like if we ran into each
other, it would be, you know, some smart ass remarks and you
know, how you doing stuff like that?
Like he's not like a conversationalist person, but

(55:33):
everyone else if if I was friends with you when I worked
there, we still talk very regularly.
So. Yeah.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.
That's awesome. All right, so talk to us about,
you know, your Section 10 podcast now and, and, and the
things you've got going on because obviously you have your
hands in a lot of different baskets.
So tell us about how that came to life.

(55:54):
Your team, the the guys you workwith and and your your mission
statement is to speak. Section 10 is my baby.
Yeah. I feel like it's the culmination
of my entire career and what I've wanted it to be like.
When I was little, little, I wanted to be a comedian.
Like I just wanted to make people laugh.
Like that's what I wanted to do.Then I loved baseball and I feel

(56:18):
like now we've been able to combine the two, which is like
the ultimate dream come true that like you'd think about
doing like a live baseball podcast.
You're like, who the hell would want to go see that?
And then opening day, we sold out a lot.
Like it was like 11 AM on a weekday and we sold out a live

(56:38):
show because it's not just baseball.
But I guess like the lineage here is Pete Blackburn.
I met him through a mutual friend.
It's funny, 'cause me, Pete and Steve all went to Endicott and
Beverly, but, but we didn't meetthere.
So I met Pete through a mutual friend.

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Pete was doing a blog and it waslike, oh, you know, like you
speak my language. Like who the hell?
Like in 2000, we probably met inlike 2009 or 2010.
Who the hell knows how to run and operate?
Like who else was blogging? No one like in my age, nobody
was doing that. So we clicked right away and

(57:20):
then we were just like, you know, KFC radio is a thing and
I'm a wrestling. I'm a big wrestling fan.
Shout out to travel chief so. We got to talk about that.
At some point today, so big wrestling fan and I listened to
KFC radio. So I listened to Stone Cold
Steve Austin's podcast back then.
I don't even know if your Phil does it.

(57:42):
And but the, the, the, I guess motivation for me or the
inspiration for me was he was interviewing wrestlers out of
character for the first time. Like you like, that was like the
first, at least for me, instanceof like wrestlers talking as
themselves. So right.
Pete was like, I think we shoulddo like a men's lifestyle type

(58:03):
podcast. And I was like, OK, but my
audience is all Red Sox fans. Like what if we did like a men's
lifestyle, but like, it's like aRed Sox podcast, but like we
have like a men's lifestyle aspect to it.
He's like, OK. And I was like, how many
episodes a week do we want to do?
How about two? OK, like the first one is going
to be like Red Sox talk. The second one will have an

(58:25):
interview. And the the, I guess crux of the
interviews was let's get to knowthese people as people.
It's, you know, having Michael Felger on everyone's like, is he
real? Like, what's he like in real
life? Like no one knows what he's like
in real life. Like, let's get to know him as a
human being. And Tony Maz, what's he like is,

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is he a Dick? I'm like, he's one of the nicest
people in the world. Like he is genuinely one of the
nicest. The human beings that I've met
in this industry. Let's humanize it like it's it
was the message of let's humanize it, these people.
And that's existed to this day where we had Jaron Duran on in
June and we're humanizing a baseball player that fans just

(59:10):
see as like, it's not a video game or it's just, yeah, yeah,
he is. He is very handsome.
But yeah. So me and Pete started Section
10. Steve came along probably like
10 episodes in. So he like, he it, it probably
kills him that he's not there since like, he can't say he's
there since episode 1, but he's basically been there since the

(59:31):
beginning. So then the three of us did that
until I moved to New York for Barstool.
And that just sucked because like, we would be in studio
doing the podcast and like Pete would be on Skype and sometimes
we forget he was there and like,this isn't fair, man.
And he was like, I, I want to start a hockey podcast anyway,

(59:53):
Like you guys do your thing. So he kind of bowed out then.
And then we did an episode with Coley where we were supposed to.
It was like we were doing like atheme series.
We were going to do a Nomar podcast with Dave, a Manny
podcast with Hank, and then a Pedro podcast with Coley.
Kohli was the first one. So we did a Pedro themed podcast

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with Kohli and then me and Stevewalked out of the studio and we
were like, why is this guy not full time on this show?
Like what? Like like we, it was just, and
then I asked him, I was like, would you 'cause I, I knew at
the time I knew him more as a basketball guy and I was like,
would you be interested in like doing Section 10 full time?

(01:00:36):
Like thinking he would be like, no, dude, like I, I have way too
much going on. But he was like, I am so
offended that it took you this long to ask me that.
And I was like, all right, cool.So then so then it became me,
Steve and Coley. And we rode that wave through
the 2021 season. And Steve ended up getting this

(01:00:59):
can't turn it down offer from Odyssey.
Like they kind of like threw thebag at him and they end up being
like, oh, it's the official podcast of the Boston Red Sox.
So like, I was like, all right, fuck you, Steve.
We're the most downloaded Red Sox podcast.
Like if you want to be the crystal one, we'll be the most
downloaded 1. So he did that.
But then that's when I ended up leaving Barstool was after 2021

(01:01:19):
and it sucked, man. Like I, I didn't want to go.
It felt like I got traded. It felt like, you know, you have
this opportunity in front of youthat you can't say no.
I remember having the conversation with Dave, like
what would you do if you were inmy position?
And he was like, I would absolutely take the deal.
And I was like, OK, that's all Ineeded to hear.

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So Coley was stuck at Barstool with no one cuz Steve went to
Odyssey. I went to DraftKings and then he
ended up quitting and going to Underdog.
And the whole time I'm like, allright, so then I gotta get them
to come to DraftKings. Like we have to put Section 10
back together. Like that was the goal all along

(01:02:01):
is get Section 10 back together no matter what.
And then Odyssey ended up letting Steve go.
So then Steve went to Underdog and I was like, all right, like
I loved my time at DraftKings. Like all the people there were
awesome. The fact that they were located
in Boston was super convenient. Like they're right by the the

(01:02:22):
marathon finish line. Yeah.
I mean, like I loved working forthem and but like at the end of
the day, it's like I gotta, I like I have to put Section 10
back together. Like it's it's not about the
money at that point. It's about like what what do the
fans want? What do I want?

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And I want Section 10. So if I was like, if you 2 are
over there, then that's where I'm going.
And I ended up talking to underdog and what was great was
like they love baseball. Like the the people that call
the shots at underdog. It's like, you know, we're we're
all in on baseball. And I was like, well, then I'm

(01:03:04):
all in on underdogs. So like, not, yeah, like not
only did you give us the opportunity to put Section 10
back together and like, fans arepumped about that, but it means
the world to me to work for a company where where they see the
value in baseball because not everyone does.
Like I feel like I make good relations, relationships with

(01:03:27):
people and they'll be like you do.
Like we like Jared. So like you do that baseball
thing that you do, you know what, if you're happy, I'm
happy. That's great.
But to be like, we like Jared, we want him to be happy, but we
also love baseball and we see the vision.
That's one of the most motivating things that you can,
I guess, have as a content creator is the person that's

(01:03:49):
signing your checks. Being like this is great.
And we trust that you're gonna do exactly what like we need you
to do. And like, having that confidence
is is awesome. So yeah, we put Section 10 back
together in 2024 and it's, I mean, it's been a dream ever
since, man. Like the the you asked about.

(01:04:11):
Like the team. So that's so great.
So our our producer is Jake Coley found Jake and he was
there for like the end of barstool.
So he's been riding with me eversince.
When I was at DraftKings and I couldn't be with Coley and
Steve, I found Tyler Milliken, who is a a gem.
Like what a what a what a find. He's the associate producer for

(01:04:34):
Zolac and Bertrand on the Sportshub.
But I saw him on YouTube doing like some like little Red Sox
podcast and I was like, all right, he can talk ball.
Let's go. And then next thing you know,
he's the most interesting cartoon character of all time.
So he he was with me for the twodraftking seasons and then I
brought him to Section 10. And then Mikey Eamond.

(01:04:57):
He he filmed and produced, did everything.
He was the one man band for my Nessen show.
But he shoots it, edits it, produces it, everything.
He's he's a weapon. So I was like, you're coming
with me. That's awesome.
And then Jeremy does our social and he did social for the Red
Sox. So like, you know, I would go on

(01:05:18):
Twitter and see these awesome edits for on like the Red Sox
social. I'm like, who's that guy?
You're coming with us? And then for our graphics,
Corey, he's the GOAT. Like he's he does stuff for like
the Patriots and like he's he's amazing.
And and like see his work and you're like, all right, buddy,
get get in the van. Like we're going.

(01:05:39):
So I'm like, this is yeah. And then having, you know,
Dallas and Jay, hey, it's like this right now is the best team
I've ever had. Like no disrespect to anyone
that I've ever worked with before, but it's the first time
I've been able to hand pick everyone.
And it's like I basically got the chance to put together the

(01:06:01):
All Star team of everyone that I've ever worked with.
So yeah, it's it's awesome. That's so awesome.
That's fantastic. And I think what's really even
better is in a time time span, in a world with social media
where attention span is just so short and so small.
And to be honest with you, I feel like sports in general are

(01:06:22):
taking a hit because of that because people just want to get
to the exciting part. They want to get to the home
runs, they want to get to the touchdowns, they want to get to
the last, you know, the two minutes left in the fourth
quarter. They want to get down to the
final period where it's like a shootout with the like, everyone
just wants the exciting part andthat's what social media is at
this point is like. The people are just ignoring

(01:06:44):
games and live experiences to just wait for the highlight to
come out, which used to be like ESPN top ten.
But now it's really fascinating that I think with what you have
done with your audience, I noticed that you are like
bridging that gap of people withshort attention spans and
getting them excited about all of the niche individual

(01:07:05):
experiences that are involved inbaseball.
Right. Like the most exciting thing,
like again, like as a fair weather fan, just to be honest,
the most exciting thing to me was when I found out all the
rule changes and they were like,the game is going to be faster.
And I was like, fantastic, because I shouldn't be able to
go get like a Fenway Frank, takea shit, come back and the
pitcher still hasn't thrown out the damn ball yet.
Like, what are we doing? I can't be here for 9 1/2 hours.

(01:07:26):
So I just, you know, that's a a compliment to you.
And also just, you know, I guessthat kind of also leads into a
question of like, what has that experience been like for you
being able to do that? Because again, the audience that
you've reached, the experiences that you've given to others,
Like what is that like? And I mean, like, what does that
mean for you? Not the Section 10, Like what
does that mean for you to say like all of the things that

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you've been to, to like right where you are now?
How are you feeling as an individual in the field that
you're in? I don't, I, I don't even know,
like, because I don't, and unless I'm doing something like
this, which is very seldom, I don't look back.

(01:08:10):
I'm always like, what's the nextthing you know, 'cause I think
complacent again, like it's a tribute to, to Dave.
Like I don't have complacency inmy body.
It doesn't matter what my paycheck looks like.
My motivation doesn't change. I'm not a big reflect guy.
I'm too afraid to reflect because I don't want to lose my

(01:08:32):
spot. I think Section 10, and this is
a good thing because most of them are allies.
But Section 10 has created a wave of competition.
We've created, we've inspired our own competition.
So there are now younger hungry Red Sox podcast.
Like there's more options now than ever for Red Sox content.

(01:08:57):
And it's again, like most of them are allies.
Like I will make content with them to help them out, to push
them, to give them exposure. Like I'm not insecure about it.
I will do what I can to help everyone in the space 'cause no
one did that for me. So I wanna do that for the
people that come after me, but at the same time, I want I want

(01:09:21):
to keep my spot at the top. Like I want Section 10 to always
be the biggest, the number one Red Sox podcast that there is.
And when something big happens with the Red Sox, I want people
to think of us. And so like, that's kind of what
keeps me going. And you know, you know, you
mentioned like the like doing stuff for like fans and, and

(01:09:44):
whatnot. It's all I know, man.
Like I, I started on social media when I was 16.
The only life that I know is interacting with strangers on
the Internet. Like that's all I know.
And I've just, I've made so manyfriends and connections.

(01:10:04):
And even if even if we don't endup being friends, even if it's
just like a one time deal where we have an exchange and like,
you know, we go to a game together and that's the only
time we ever speak. Like that's happened before too,
you know, like, like someone haslike this amazing story and you
know, I'll take them to a game and then we, you know, I might
hear from them one more time ever again.

(01:10:27):
That's fine because I know that they had a great time or
whatever. So I don't know.
It's it's almost like I go back to that that Red Sox Nation
president debate and in the moment I'm thinking this is the
pinnacle. Like it it's not going to get
any bigger than this. This like I'm going to be be on

(01:10:48):
TV with Jerry Remy on Nessen. Like enjoy the moment while you
got it, because this is it. And then kind of from that day
forward, it was always like, Oh shit, this is happening.
Oh shit, this is happening. And it like it just it never
stopped. It's been almost 20 years and it

(01:11:09):
never stopped. Like there was always like, I
just remember being in like 2011, 2012, 2013 and being like,
I feel like every single year I've been able to look back and
say like, this was the best yearof my life for this reason.
And it just kept going. And like, there was always a
reason to look at a year that had gone by and be able to say,

(01:11:31):
if it wasn't the best year of mylife, it was a successful one.
Like we, we, we accomplished what we set out to do this year.
But yeah, I mean, going back to like my team and everything, I
think they know that I'll alwaysgo to bat for them.
So I, I, the comparison that I use is, and I'm sure you guys

(01:11:54):
can relate to this in high school, right?
I, I was a class clown, but I knew my limits.
So I would go into a certain class and if the teacher was a
hard ass, I'd keep my mouth shutlike I'm not doing anything.
But if I had a teacher that I knew liked me and thought that I
was funny, I know I can Dick around, but I'm not going to go
over the line. But I know what I can get away

(01:12:16):
with and for making content my guy, like the Section 10 guys.
So if I go on Nessen and I'm like, I'm not the same guy that
I am on Section 10. So it's like this is a different
teacher, you know, like I can dosome stuff.
I'm not gonna go over the top. Like you guys don't want that.
Like you want more like serious baseball talk, That's fine.

(01:12:37):
That's what I'll give you. But on Section 10 I know I can
be the class clown because like those are my boys and so like
they bring out the best in me. So I'm always trying to reward
them, keep them incentivized, keep them motivated, make them
feel like they're part of the team.
Like it's not just there's one guy and then everyone else.

(01:12:58):
Like it's a band. Like, yeah, of course there's,
there's going to be like the front man, the lead singer.
But like, you need the bassist, you need the guitarist, you need
the drummer, you need the manager, you need all that
stuff, you need the crew. So that's, that's kind of how I
view it. And I think, you know, everyone

(01:13:19):
is, is pulling on the same rope just as hard.
So it's, it's very rewarding to see like where it started, how
it's gotten there, the path thatit's taken, how there's been
adversity and how there have been trying times.
But I mean, we've, we've survived all of it.
And I feel like, you know, section 10 night will be next

(01:13:42):
month. And it's like another just
reminder of like, holy shit, dude.
Like, this started on Myspace, and now the Red Sox are hosting
their second annual night to celebrate this little stupid
show that we do. So yeah, it's it's very.
Crazy. So incredible, man.

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Good for you. All right, Jared, we are going
to go into our so New England segment now.
So now we've shared. Oh, look at that.
Huh? Our little sound bite.
I forgot we just upgraded that. So I'm gonna ask you some rapid
fire New England based questionsto get your answers.
And I, I always try to curate and keep them surrounding, you

(01:14:24):
know, more of our guests. So what I'm gonna do, the first
question I have for you is give us your top five.
Red Sox of all time, Do I have to go in order?
No, I I won't do that, Jay. I won't make you go in order
unless you want to. David Ortiz, Ted Williams, Pedro

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Martinez, feel like you have to put, we had this discussion
about like the Mount Rushmore the other day.
So it's it's got to be Karl Yastremsky because of he has
like every Red Sox record. But it's like hard to say.
It's like I didn't see him play.So it's like, but if you have
every record, you, you belong. So Pedro, Pedro Ortiz, Ted Yaz,

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and then that fifth one. I mean, it's not Babe Ruth I
hate, Babe Ruth I hate. Babe Ruth hot take.
OK, I hate. Babe Ruth, that next?
Like, do you go Roger? Probably Roger Clemens, right?

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Yeah. Let's go, Clemens.
All right, awesome. Now 6 beautiful states here in
New England. Oh yeah, Connecticut.
'S last. Favorite being number one.
I'm assuming you're gonna go Massachusetts, Connecticut.
Dead lasts. Typical answer. 2 through 5

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Connecticut dead. Let's.
Go Massachusetts. I love Maine and New Hampshire.
I guess it's kind of like, do you like York Beach more than
you like, I don't know, like like Lake Winnipesau, like so
New Hampshire's number two. I'm a Lake Winnie guy.
I'm a newfound Lake guy. I'm a Lake Winnie guy.

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So let's go. New Hampshire to Main 3 Vermont
4 Connecticut 5:00 AM I missing a state?
Oh, Rhode Island. Shit, Rhode Island.
Damn. Rhode Island, where we are right
now, my friend. So I love Rhode Island too.
We just went to Newport. Fucking every time.

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Newport gets everybody. It's.
Always Newport. When people think of Rhode
Island, don't forget we gave youthe Paw Sox.
Rhode Island. I think I would put Rhode Island
above Maine, so let's bump Mainedown 1.
So we'll go Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Maine,
Vermont, Connecticut. All right, cool.
So we we went from not getting in there to top three.
That works for me. I appreciate it.

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Do you have a favorite New England based or influenced
movie or film? I mean, my mind immediately goes
to the town. I love the town.
It's like out of all the movies,I'm very like, I don't like
rewatching things because my brain goes, if we're gonna
rewatch this, what could we watch for the first time that

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would be super interesting that we might really like?
Literally say that all the time.I'm gonna say I'm.
The same way I can't, yeah. I'm not a huge watch, brother.
Yeah, unless it's like a movie Ireally love, I'll do.
I'll do superhero movies over and I will do Interstellar over.
But besides that, I've watched Superman's way too many times.

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Yeah, I would say the town, not just for like Boston theme, just
movies in general is probably my, it's got to be a top three
rewatch movie for me. So give me the town.
Town it is. You got it.
Now I already know the number one slot.
So New England sports, can you rank your favorite sports teams

(01:17:57):
in order? Sox number one.
What comes after that? I know you're a baseball guy,
but I love to hear your opinion on the others.
It's it's fluid. I'll say that which is the most
bandwagon Y thing to say. It's and it's not necessarily
based around winning. I think it is based around like
the players. Like there was a time where I

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would have had the Celtics as mynumber 2 and it was just because
I loved Pearce and KG and Ray Allen and those guys, man.
I mean, like though that like the O3O4, like Bruins teams,
like they would have been my #2 at the time.
Like they weren't winning championships then.
But I just loved, I loved the O3.

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Like I could go back and forth and like those rosters like all
the time. And then the Pats obviously were
#2 when Brady was there, but nowhe's not.
So I think if it like if you were to ask me right now, like
if, if someone let's rank it on excitement level, if someone
were to offer me tickets to go see them.
Let's do that. I like it.
The Red Sox, the Bruins, the Celtics and the Patriots.

(01:19:04):
And I'll tell you why the Patriots, So I just view myself
as a Red Sox fan. I don't like, I, I hope all the
Boston sports teams do well. But Patriots fans, when Brady
was there, they thought that that was going to last forever.
So I'm glad that they're kind ofgetting their noses rubbed in
shit right now. Gentle, Jared.

(01:19:25):
Gentle. That's us, yeah.
'Cause it's like the the but you're not arrogant, like you're
not like the dynasty's never going to die.
And even after Brady's gone, we're still going to win Super
Bowls. Those Patriots fans, I'm like,
come on, man. Like we saw quite a few of those
people. Last night, wearing all their
stuff, yeah. Yeah, every organization is

(01:19:45):
going to go through a rut and noone is bulletproof.
But yeah, the reason why I put Patriots at 4 is man, do I hate
getting out of Gillette after oh, he's the worst concert a
game can't do it. So yeah, they're #4.
The amount of money that they have, you would have thought by
now they would have come up witha better traffic pattern.
Like they could have invested somuch money to make those roads

(01:20:07):
better and they just haven't. OK, favorite New England season?
Oh, fall. Yeah, not even close.
Fall guy. Yeah, she's like baseball
players love Halloween playoff baseball.
Pats are starting. Bruins are starting.
The weather's perfect. Yeah.
Fall in New England. I don't think that you can't be

(01:20:27):
at pumpkin coffee. Come on.
Come on. Pumpkin beer.
You get me excited, little SandyAdams Oktoberfest.
Yeah, yeah, September, October in New England is the best.
And like, once you get to November, I don't have to do
shit like I'm sitting on my ass in November.
That's the. Vacation time for you, what food

(01:20:51):
do you think best represents NewEngland?
Like if you could choose like one dish, one food.
We got a lot of, you know, specific, but if there's like
one thing. Lobster roll.
Lobster roll Hot or cold? Yeah.
So I like. That's another one where it
depends on my mood. I like both, so I'll either do

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like cold with the Mayo and the bun or I'll go no bun hot with,
with the butter to dip in. Yeah.
So a funny story. Like I I I've told the story a
couple times, but when I first got like the big contract after
I left people, Oh man, would youget a car?

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Like what'd you get? I was like, I went to Kelly's
Roast Beef and I got two lobsterrolls.
I was like before, like before, I could only afford one.
I signed that. Big contract was huge.
I went to Kelly's and I was like, fuck it, give me two 2
long. I like give me two.

(01:21:52):
Give me two 2. Are you with someone or are you
by yourself? I'm by myself. 2 for me for me.
Yeah. All right, And is what is like
one word, 1 phrase, one sentencethat you would use to best
describe New England, like either as a New Englander or if
someone was coming to visit, like what?
What comes to mind when you think of like, you want to know

(01:22:15):
what New England is? It's this.
That's tough to do it. And like, so when I think of New
England, I think of like community, you know, it's six
states, but it's almost like people that live in the other
states are our cousins. I think of competitiveness

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because I know. So I, I grew up in Saugus and if
you like, we live or my parents still live there up on a hill.
And if you go out the back, you can see the Boston skyline from
our back porch. And Coley grew up in Roslindale
and he says that even I can't claim Boston.

(01:23:01):
Like I, I can't say I'm from Boston.
Like unless, unless you like were born inside the Zamboni at
the garden, you can't say. So, you know, like these,
there's some people that are from like central Mass, western
Mass and like they say that they're from Boston or there's
people from their Rhode Island. That'd be like you're, you are

(01:23:22):
not from Boston. It's like, OK, all right, Jesus
Christ. Like I'm just trying to give
like a, you know, a, a, a reference this point to people
that may not be from here. So like you know, with our
sports teams, with our sports talk callers, with our
geographic location, very competitive, but a beautiful

(01:23:43):
community of psychopaths. I love that.
I love that. All right.
Now, if you could add another city or state or even country to
like New England, right, like make it like the seventh New
England state, which one would it be?
Some people just add a city, some people add a state,

(01:24:04):
country. No, no.
It could be whatever. It could be anywhere in the
world. Philly.
Yeah, if we could adopt Philly, that would be.
They are the most like us. It's just a bigger city.
That's it. That's really it.
They are very intense. They are obsessed with sports.
I think if we added Philly to New England, it would elevate

(01:24:25):
Boston. They would be like, we thought
we were nuts. Look at Philly, you know, I and
it would be like we need to up our psycho.
And yes, annexing Philadelphia would increase the the, the
intensity of the sports environment in Boston, I
believe. Wow, that would that would be.

(01:24:45):
That would be some scary fans. I don't think anybody would want
to come play us 'cause they would not leave.
Awesome. All right, one final question
here. Are you on the bandwagon or not
on the bandwagon 'cause there's been a lot of beef online about
this sweet Caroline playing at Fenway Park.

(01:25:07):
Are you a fan of it? So you know how I referenced in
2014 when I interviewed with theRed Sox and did like 7 rounds of
interviews? One of those interviews was with
a highly ranked official with the Boston Red Sox.
And he asked me about this. How what do you, what do you
think about Sweet Caroline? And I said, I hate it when we're

(01:25:33):
losing. And like, you need to treat it
like Gino at the Celtics games if you're up big, or I'll even
say if you're within striking distance, because I have
definitely been at Red Sox gameswhere they're like down to down
three. You play Sweet Caroline,
everyone's like singing the song.
And then it gives that burst of energy into the bottom of the

(01:25:55):
eighth. And then the Red Sox come up and
like it's it's kind of like an energy shift, right?
But if in the top of the in the top of the 8th, if it was like a
22, Red Sox made three errors, which led to A7 run top of the
8th and now it's 1:50 and you'relosing.
I don't even know if that math is correct, but let's just say

(01:26:16):
you, you give up seven runs and the score is now 10/2.
That and then everyone's like sogood, so good.
It's like, no, it's not fucking so good.
It's not so good. Like shut up.
So turn that shit off. Like I don't know what the line
is. I think it's if you're if you're

(01:26:36):
winning or within three runs, Sweet Caroline is perfectly
acceptable. If you're losing, I don't want
to fucking hear it. I don't want I don't want to
hear it. Like it makes me so angry and
I'm someone who never once I've never left the Red Sox game
early ever in my life, even as akid.

(01:26:57):
Doesn't matter weather losing nothing.
My poor father would sit there and be like, can we please go?
No, no, we're not going Jared. It's it's 36° with a wind chill
that makes it feel like it's 17.Can we please go home?
No, it's now raining. I don't care.
So if I have to sit there after a disastrous 7th or 8th inning

(01:27:19):
and we're now getting smoked in a game that, you know, the, the
divisions on the line, it's not so good.
So like, like, I want to know atleast give me the illusion that
the people surrounding me are asangry about this situation as I
am. Like if I Can't Sing Sweet
Caroline, if I can't muster up the lyrics, then you shouldn't

(01:27:43):
be able to either. You should care as much about
the win loss as I do and I'm so devastated that I couldn't.
I couldn't even sing my favoritesong, never mind that song.
So yes, like thumbs up to it in certain situations, but not all.
Noted. Heard of your first folks?
Jared, this has been awesome andthank you for jumping on with us

(01:28:05):
here and then having conversations, sharing your
story, giving us some inspirational things and a lot
to think about, and of course, all of your insight into the
baseball world. Where can everybody find you?
What do you got going on so thatpeople can keep an eye out for
it? Yeah, man, we got Section 10
nights coming up on September 17th at Fenway.
It's redsox.com/section 10 for tickets to that.

(01:28:26):
We just dropped new merch Section 10, merch.com, you can
find Section 10 and my MLB podcast Baseball is Dead on our
YouTube page. Just search for it.
It'll come up. We're on all podcast platforms.
As you know, I do the Ness and Altcast MLB Network and I'm on

(01:28:47):
with Tony Maz on Wednesdays 98.5, The Sports Hub, the
baseball hours, 6:00 and 7:00. Hell yeah, this has been amazing
and your your social platform isjust your first and last name.
Yeah, I mean, I, I was like the first barstool guy that like
used their government name. So I'm, I'm proud of that.
Awesome. All right, Jared, thank you so
much for jumping on man. Ladies and gentlemen, that will

(01:29:08):
conclude episode 52 of the So New England podcast.
Please remember folks, life's better in New England.
When? Socks crack and the Celtics fly.
The Patriots fights and the Bruins cry from six great states
we raised. This down New England strong,
homeward bound.

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