July 25, 2025 • 57 mins
Karen Fairgate stands at a crossroads in "Letting Go," finally visiting Sid's grave after avoiding it since his funeral. "For the first time since you died, I feel alive again," she confesses, removing her wedding ring to place on a necklace—a powerful symbol of honoring the past while embracing the future. This pivotal moment comes after sharing her first kiss with Larry, triggering a flood of conflicting emotions about desire, guilt, and what it means to move forward after devastating loss.
Meanwhile, Joe's ex-girlfriend Lorraine arrives unexpectedly from New York, offering to compromise on the very things that once separated them: marriage and children. "You win," she tells him, but Joe recognizes the difference between genuine desire and reluctant compromise. His insistence that children deserve two parents who truly want them showcases surprising emotional wisdom and forces Lorraine to confront her own hesitations about family life.
The methanol business venture brings simmering tensions between Valene and Abby to a boiling point. When Abby uses questionable methods to convince a senator to support their cause, Val confronts her directly about her tactics. Their confrontation crystallizes into a defining philosophy clash: "Use what you have to get what you want," Abby advises unapologetically, while Val promises to watch her "like a hawk." This electric showdown sets the stage for an escalating power struggle between two fundamentally opposing worldviews.
A touching scene where the family watches home movies of Sid provides emotional counterbalance, allowing them to remember him through genuine moments of joy rather than just through the lens of loss. This beautiful sequence illustrates grief's evolution—from raw pain to something more complex that makes space for celebration alongside sadness.
What makes Knots Landing exceptional is precisely this willingness to explore genuine human emotions and ethical dilemmas without resorting to simplistic answers. Whether you're navigating grief, relationship compromises, or moral boundaries, these characters' struggles mirror real life in all its messy, complicated glory.
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It drives me crazy.
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Hello, gorgeous Welcome, orwelcome back to another fun film
edition of Soap Lore.
I am sort of feeling myself I'min a new space today.
I hope your day is going great.
We have got a very interestingepisode of Not Slander to jump
into today, season 3, episode17,.
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Letting Go it's all about theshuns and the shuns Intuition
submission shun from public eyebecause you're embarrassed.
Not on these shows, not today.
I am going to enjoy myself alittle bit of normal sparkling
water along with a watermelonfeta basil salad that I chopped
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very finely and put into agorgeous dish because Martha
said it would be fabulous.
Martha said it would befabulous and she was right.
We have a little bit of fanmail that we're going to jump
right into.
Shout out to Shelly.
I was also inspired by Shellyto take a walk after I read her
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email.
Shelly writes thank you for thewonderful podcast.
It brings me back to the glorydays of my favorite nighttime
soaps.
I enjoy your comments and yourcommentary.
I loved Knott's Landing, dynastyand Dallas.
In that order, I like FalconCrest but it didn't really
compare to the top three.
My simple observation is thisKnott's Landing has the best
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character development.
A lot of the characters reallygrew or changed during the
series.
Dynasty by far had the bestsettings.
Dallas has the best plots.
Thank you so much, shelly.
She says that she went on afour mile walk.
I didn't get quite that far,but I sure appreciate you
listening.
I thought about this after Iread her email.
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I think I fell kind of head overheels in love with Falcon Crest
at the beginning because itfelt a little bit more like a
drama and I think I was justmore.
I don't think I'm more inclinedto like it, maybe I'm just more
trained.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm just seeing more dramas.
So I really enjoyed that punchand I to me my big three were
Falcon Crest in Dallas.
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But I can admit now that if Ihad started watching Knott's
Landing first, I think my mythoughts on Falcon Crest might
be a little bit different.
But because I'm four seasonsdeep, I really fallen in love
with the characters.
I kind of like the way they dothings.
I love it.
But I can admit to myself thathad Knott's Landing, dynasty and
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Dallas shown up, I might havenever heard about Falcon Crest,
which I think is a lot of thethe kind of grumblings from the
Falcon Crest community.
It always sort of comes up asan afterthought.
Lucky for me got to wait tillthese were 40 years old before I
started watching them.
So, hey, thank god forstreaming.
I didn't have to choose, butyou know what someone we care
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about does.
Go ahead and pour yourself upsomething bubbly and bright.
I think I need just a little bitmore to wash this down as we
jump into season three, episode17 of not slanding, letting go.
This episode is riddled withshuns I don't know any way else
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to say it Like there's so manythoughts, there's so many
nuances on this episode,starting with Uncle Joe.
I'm so glad to have him as anew addition to this show.
He brings a certain level ofkind of not fierceness, but he's
not afraid of Karen.
I don't think anybody isoutright like terrified she's
going to do anything to them.
But don't anybody want to gotoe-to-toe with Karen?
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Nobody on that road wants to.
So we're going to get rid ofJoe first, because he is one of
the big players.
We see this bright yellow cabpull up with not slamming cabco
on it.
It drops off this randombrunette.
This woman jumps out the car.
I thought she was for sure aJehovah's Witness or that she
was about to start selling Avonor something.
To my surprise, this is Joe'ssweetheart.
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It's Miss Thang Thang from backeast.
It's early in the morning.
He comes outside.
He looks like he's about to goto work when all of a sudden he
sees her, lorraine, joe, reachout for each other and and share
warm embrace.
Oh my god, what are you doinghere in la?
Yeah, uh, uh, merger.
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We have some things to do outin la.
And he's like, oh great, well,is there anything I can do for
you?
And she's like yeah, you can goahead and break your girl off
some.
She flew all the way across thecountry to get a list I'm going
to keep it cute, just in casethere's a couple of kids.
She needed a merger, adifferent kind of merger.
She wants to merge with Joe.
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It's been a long flight.
She's had some very long nights.
Listen, let's go ahead and dowhat we need to do.
Joe, now I'm surprised.
I thought Joe had business toattend to, but he turns on his
heels.
They go upstairs and they havea morning merger and then they
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chase their morning merger witha little breakfast.
It is at this point that Joerealizes, oh my God, I have a
whole job I'm supposed to be at.
He's thinking like wait aminute, this is LA, this is
traffic.
I have a noon class.
He was clearly leaving thehouse at like 8 am, so he goes.
I guess I'm not going to worktoday.
Let me go ahead and callsomebody Good to see you,
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lorraine.
Well, over the course of theshow, one thing you start to
notice is that they do have thiswonderful chemistry.
They're just kind of bouncingthings off of each other.
Remember this.
Remember that you start todeduce that they probably had a
really substantial relationship,but nobody seems upset about it
.
It's on the contrary, they seemto be pretty enamored with one
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another.
But then you also start tonotice that this woman ain't
really going anywhere.
He's like I thought you saidyou had to work.
Oh yeah, I did, I do, but Ijust came into town a little bit
earlier.
You know what I'm saying.
I just want to spend time withyou.
I wanted to see you, joe.
I need mergers.
I've had mergers in a while.
They also sort of casuallymentioned in passing that Joe
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likes to gamble a little bit.
Lorraine makes a comment likeyou'll bet on anything If you
call up a bookie and say hey,put $10 on this whole, $5 on
this, over and under, blah, blah, blah.
That's called gambling.
And Joe's like nah, it's notgambling, but everybody's
smiling about it.
So they don't outright say hehas a gambling problem and maybe
he doesn't.
I'm just saying this is a soapopera.
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After all, everybody needsadvice.
He seems pretty squeaky cleanat this point, so we will see if
anything comes of that.
Shortly after Lorraine's arrival, karen comes home and Karen's
usually like oh my God, lorraine, what are you doing here?
Hey, girl, they get along fine.
Apparently, they've met eachother several times before,
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which adds to my suspicion thatthey had a substantial
relationship she and joe, thatis ray's like girl, your house
is so cute.
I can't believe.
This is the first time I'vebeen out to cali to see y'all.
I'm so sorry about this.
Um, yeah, I'm here for work.
I'm working here.
I'm here for work.
Here's like oh, that's great,joe the word.
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They go into the other room.
She's like I know she's notsleeping in my house.
Now, you think she won't sleepin my house.
He's like well, of course sheis.
Karen turns into Joe's mom.
There will be no fornication inmy house.
That's the invocation.
Sean, no fornication of myhouse and doing god knows what,
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whatever you want under theblankets.
That's inappropriate.
He's like oh my god, breathe,relax.
We'll get into why she she hasthat little fit here in a little
bit.
So the truth sort of oozes out,it trickles out slowly over the
episode and it goes somethinglike this Lorraine is and was,
and most likely will always be,very focused on her career.
She's a great lawyer.
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She loves that and she lovesJoe.
Joe wanted a family in marriagebut Lorraine wasn't there.
I totally get where she'scoming from late 70s, early 80s.
She's trying to put stamp, herprint or I can't even think of
the word right now.
She's trying to solidify hercareer.
She wants to be a lawyer.
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She needs to put in a lot oftime for that and you know
marriage and kids just wasn'tthat.
I'm thinking that if she had Joewhile she was, you know when
she and Joe were together.
You know he's teaching Whileshe was.
You know when she and Joe weretogether, you know he's teaching
she's being a lawyer, they'rehappy.
It's just you can always kindof kick the can down the road oh
yeah, we'll have kids someday,someday, someday.
Well, it seems like his somedayran out when he decided he
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wasn't going to go to Californiaand now she's filling the void.
All the things that were, youknow semi pleasurable, are just
horrible.
Now they're mundane.
She misses them all day and allnight.
So she's come to the conclusionthat there's no time like the
present.
If this is what you want, thenI want that too.
I will want whatever you want,which immediately you already
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know if you're a real one makesme think of one of the greatest
films ever, one of the firstfilms I ever saw, which is
wildly inappropriate when youthink about my age coming to
america.
What kind of foods do you like?
Whatever foods you like.
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Unfortunately, joe does not telllorraine to bark like a dog, a
big dog.
He doesn't do all that, but butinstead she tells him hey, you
win.
He's like what do you mean?
I went, you win on your terms,I want to be with you on your
term.
And he's like okay, cause yourefresh my memory.
What are my terms?
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Children and marriage.
I want that because I want you.
Now they're saying this under apillow fort on the floor.
It seems very innocent.
He's smiling dimples on fulldisplay.
But, like a lot of things, alight of day really brings
things to fruition.
So after she tells him this thenight, that night, the next
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morning, it's just not reallysitting well with Joe the next
morning in their understatedfinest bathrobes from Sears, the
truth is unraveled on the frontlawn in a cul-de-sac.
I just know Lily Mae is forshow ear hustling from the
window.
The way that Lorraine presentedthe marriage and children didn't
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sit right with Joe because shesaid you win, you can have the
home and the family, the thingsyou've been agitating for.
That just feels like amicrowave promise.
That feels very like here.
Fine, if you insist here, I'lldo it.
And he didn't feel that he'slike that's not love, that's not
devotion, it's a dream, poorlywrapped in contrition at best.
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Lorraine wants him, not thefamily.
That's the part that's reallynot sitting well with him.
He's able to really articulateto her that wanting him and
settling poor family is not thesame thing.
He loves her, but he also knowsthat she would only have the
kids to appease him and notbecause she wanted them.
He wants her to want her ownchildren, not to say that she's
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going to hate him or anythinglike that, not to say that she
wouldn't be a super awesome mom,but it's the principle of it.
He wants his kids to grow up ina home where both parents want
them.
He wants them to grow up one.
He commends Sid and Karen forraising their kids the way they
did.
He's like her.
He says to Lorraine my sister'skids are strong, they're tough
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because they grew up in a housewhere two people wanted them to
be there and they loved him.
He's not really willing tocompromise on that.
And Lorraine's like listen, it'snot that I don't want it, but
just I don't know that that'snot the life I had.
I don't know anything abouthaving a happy family.
I don't know anything aboutbeing in a secure place as a
child.
So it's not that she doesn'twant it, and I can totally
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understand where she's comingfrom, especially if she loves
him.
She just can't imagine it.
She doesn't have theimagination to allow her body or
mind to kind of catch up.
So she's like listen, this,this all I got.
I'm standing out here in thisred terry cloth robe offering
you my heart and a family, butthat's all I can give you.
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That's not enough.
I don't know what else to tellyou, joe.
I don't know what to tell you.
So later on, towards the end ofthe show, you see lorraine and
karen out there digging in theyard.
It's very clear that lorrainehas never dug in dirt in her
life, not one time.
She is struggling with thatlittle shovel and she and Karen
are talking.
We'll get to their conversationat the end, but just know that
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it appears that she and Joe havea.
Um seems like he rethinks it alittle bit and I'm not mad at it
.
I really enjoy the dynamic ofthem there.
But you know what we can talkabout that once we get to Karen.
So Karen remember, on the lastepisode she met a fellow called
Larry.
Very generic name, kind of ageneric guy.
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Only a generic guy is what youneed Sometimes.
You don't need all the bellsand whistles, you just need
something plain which you needsometimes.
You don't need all the bellsand whistles, you just need
something playing.
Every now and again I get ahankering for a.
Mind you, I grew up in Texas,guys.
So when I say coke, I mean likea coke, not just a coke.
Okay, first and foremost, I donot mean the book of sugar a la
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Peter DeFilla Buster.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
I am talking about a carbonatedbeverage in a can, not
necessarily the brand coca-cola.
So every now and then I want acoke.
But the coke I want is thischeap.
There's to be a store brandcalled sure fine.
I hadn't seen it in years, butthink of it as like the Walmart
brand, just that, whatever thestore's brand is a sure fine
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cream soda.
Every now and again I get ahankering for sure fine cream
soda.
I want a good, cheap cream sodaor good, cheap root beer.
Now, truth be told, these areall probably made in the exact
same factory as the higher endproducts, but it's just
something about something beingcheap and easily available that
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hits the spot.
Sometimes that's what you need,larry.
Is that cheap, sure fine cola?
He's that cheap, sure fine rootbeer or cream soda.
They're hitting it off.
He's showing up, he's hangingout at the house Hell, he even
picked up the garbage to take itout without being prompted.
Well, he feels like they'vebeen going together for a little
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bit and he says Karen, I thinkit's time we move to the next
level.
Why ever?
What do you mean Larry?
Larry means kissing.
I want to kiss you, karen.
I want to share a passionatekiss with you.
She's like well, okay, so theykiss.
You see her sort of melt into amoment, but her eyes close.
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She opens her eyes and she'slike hmm, I like that.
So they do it again.
She kisses them again.
This is all wonderful.
It's not very clear at thispoint how long it's been.
By my guesstimation, I guessit's been around nine-ish months
since Sid has passed on Forthis episode.
Although Laura is not in it,she is mentioned once or twice
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but she is my measuring tape forthis hypothesis.
I think that she was notpregnant when Sid died.
Suddenly she's three.
Well no, so I guess this couldbe about a year later.
Laura is around.
By my estimation.
She's around about five, sixmonths pregnant.
I think it has been 10 to 14months since it has passed away.
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Anyway, things are going goodwith Larry A little too good,
but the thing about it isnothing about.
It is too good to be true.
He's genuine, he's into her andshe's into him.
Thank you party people forbearing with me.
Up until now had a little bitof technical difficulties.
I hope we are back on track.
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So, like I was saying, I'musing Laura as a measuring guide
.
It's been at least a year or sosince Sid has passed away.
So Karen for lack of a betterterm, she was kind of shook
after the kiss, not because itwas a bad kiss because it was a
kiss she liked so much.
She is realizing for the firsttime that, you know, that part
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of her isn't gone.
She thought her we grown here.
She thought her libido is gone.
She thought with the death ofSid, you know, she wasn't really
trying to think about datinganyone, she didn't really want
to open Pandora's box.
But this seems to be the firsttime she's considering that as
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an option and so there's thissort of giddiness that she's
suppressing.
But there's also a lot ofconfusion surrounding this
because after all, she's a widow.
She's in mourning.
Can a mourning widow have thesesorts of desires?
This is my interpretation.
Guys, feel free to watch theshow.
I feel like you'll probably getsort of the same thing.
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But the thing I love aboutwatching Karen the most is that
Karen is always Karen in front.
Whether she's in front ofsomebody or behind the scenes,
she's exactly the same person.
She's totally unafraid to spillher guts or not spill her guts
or, you know, yell at one of thekids and then pat him on the
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back.
She's not afraid to show thoseemotions.
So coming to this point where,under normal circumstances,
barring her being a widow, let'ssay it's an alternate universe
where she is a 38 year old womanmeeting a man she really likes.
It probably would not have beenas difficult to just sort of
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allow those feelings to flowlike she'd want them to.
But she's very confused Is thistoo soon?
Am I allowed to have thesefeelings?
Am I still married?
All of the things are kind offloating up to the surface.
Well, turns out, larry, wholikes to travel and likes to buy
cars in his leisure, really,really likes Karen, so much so
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that he's a little bit hesitantto get on a plane and fly back
to Houston to take care of somebusiness.
Apparently, one of the workprojects he was working on went
bottoms up.
They have to kind of rebuild,redo, and it feels like he's
going to be gone for asignificant amount of time.
So he says hey, karen, whydon't you come with me?
I'd really love for you to goto houston and have a good time
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oh my god, my accent and have agood time in houston, not
houston, houston.
She shook, she don't want to dothat.
But she does want to do itbecause at the end of the day
she's still a red-bloodedAmerican woman with midnight,
midday and morning needs, andyou know what Larry's looking
like.
He might know what he's talkingabout.
He might know how to make amerger or two.
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So let's flip back to Joe alittle bit.
So Karen is asked by Larry totravel with oh my God, I don't
know, I have kids, I have allthis blah, blah, blah.
But the to travel with?
Oh my god, I don't know, I havekids, I have all this blah,
blah, blah.
But the truth is, yes, she haskids, yes, they are semi sort of
independent, but also herbrother's there, and she has the
best neighbors on earth, valenewill, will raise those kids
until they're 50, if need be.
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So she could.
But it's like, do I really want?
Anyway, she gets home andsomebody comes around the corner
.
Oh my God, little Marine, isthat you?
Hey girl.
Oh my God, karen, I'm so sorryabout Sid.
I can't believe.
It's the first time I've beento your house.
Every time we meet it's in NewYork.
Yes, yes, it is girl.
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How long are you staying?
Oh, I'm here for work, I'mworking, I'm here for work.
Okay, cool, joe.
A word Joe and Karen go into aseparate room where she rips
into him about the fornicationshe will not allow under her
roof.
You already heard the spiel inJoe's segment of the podcast, so
I won't repeat it here.
But once she's done after hetells her to relax she goes up
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to her room, follows her.
He's like yo, what's reallygoing on?
And she tells him hey, bro, Ikissed larry today.
I kissed larry and I really,really liked it.
I don't know what to do withthat emotion, though, like, do
you like, am I doing too much?
And this is where kid brothercomes in.
This is probably one of theonly people who can just be
really blunt with her.
She's gonna listen to himwithout hesitation because, I
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mean, they're family.
It's also interesting, though.
On this scene we find out thatshe's never actually been to see
his grave after they buried him.
She has never gone back.
So she's sitting on the edge ofthe bed pondering the idea that
maybe her pain is in remission,maybe it's easing up a little
bit now.
Joe thinks she needs to be intransition because at the end of
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the day as he puts it, karen,life is moving on, Things are
going to happen, whether youjump on board or not, and, honey
, at the end of the day, you areno longer Sid Farragate's wife.
You don't even have a choice inthat.
I need you to hear me.
You are not his wife.
You don't even have a choice inthat.
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I need you to hear me.
You are not his wife.
He's not here.
That is a hard thing to hear.
God bless, I'm not a widow, butI mean the whole term widow and
widower.
Widower is that you have lostyour spouse, like there's a
whole title in the Englishlanguage to describe what you
are now.
It doesn't even it makes youknow I've never even considered
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that before this episode that Imean yeah, you're.
I mean, are you no longermarried?
If someone said I guess not,you know you could move on.
Nobody's going to judge you forthat, but I suppose it's up to
the person left living to decidehow long that's going to be.
So that's basically what'sgoing on this episode.
Karen is deciding how long sheis going to be Sid's widow.
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She'll always be his widow, butshe will never, ever be his
wife again.
So Joe decides I can tell he'sprobably thinking after watching
the show seems like he had alittle plan.
He needs to help his sister out.
So he decides he's going tocook dinner.
He's going to kill two birdswith one stone.
Number one.
He needs everybody fat, fulland satisfied so that there'll
be a little bit more pliable ieKaren, because he needs Lorraine
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to stay at the house so theycan have a couple more mergers.
Also he wants to, you know, getthe family together.
It's familiar, this is meprojecting a little bit, but it
seems like a good plan.
Lorraine very much seems likepart of the family, if nothing
else, the kids are used tohaving her around.
They know who she is.
She is a pseudo aunt, eventhough she doesn't have the
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title.
But I love this scene of themjust doing nothing.
They're just eating at thetable, talking about New York,
talking about good times.
They're arguing, everybody'sgoing back and forth but you can
tell it's just all love andit's all so comfortable.
And it feels good to mewatching the show to see so much
life in Karen's house.
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I will say I feel like they'vehandled the whole said thing
really wonderfully.
Everybody's gone through theirlittle thing.
The kids are dealing with itreally really well and I think
Karen is too.
But there's still so much underthe surface that we didn't know.
So after dinner Joe just kindof casually mentions that he
wants to watch home movies.
There's so much we haven't seen.
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And he's using Lorraine kind ofas an excuse, like, oh well,
she didn't see this.
Blah blah, blah blah, I hadn'tseen this.
I've never seen any of yourhome movies.
Let's go ahead and fire up thatprojector.
I have to say I envy anyone whoever had a projector like as an
option.
Never had one of those in myhome.
I mean, I think we might havesomething that we use for
backyard party one time at mymother-in-law's I don't even
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know where it's at.
Anyway, they sit in the livingroom and they start watching
home movies of Sid.
Of course they're at the beach,they're talking, they're all
having a good time and what yousort of feel is it's not sad
like you would think it would be.
But what you realize is thatthere's tons of little moments
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that sit that Karen and the kidshave sort of forgotten.
And watching the film they getto talk.
You know they get to.
They could talk about a littlebit and the more they watch, the
more they see that.
You know some things neverchange.
Diana and Karen are stillarguing every chance they get.
Michael's still not good atholding a camera, although he's
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a baby.
I don't know why you give thisbecause, you know, those little
projectors probably weigh 35pounds I'm exaggerating, but at
least 10, 15 pounds, and hecan't be any more than like four
if he's holding the camera fouror five years ago.
But it's just, it's reallybeautiful.
And how do I put this intowords?
It's almost like a gift.
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You get to see someone you love.
You get to see the person youhave missed so desperately and
that you will always missdesperately.
But now they're at a pointwhere they can talk about him
not as this tragedy, but just ashim.
Sid gets to be just Sid.
He's still their dad.
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He was Karen's husband, he'sjust him.
Now he's not wrapped in justkind of misery and sadness.
There's no gray cloud over it,it's just sort of tiny little
moments of realization, tinylittle memories that were
re-sparked, and everybody seemsto be doing good.
It seems like Michael and Karenweren't really keen on watching
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the films, but they both didpretty okay during it.
So with that, karen decides thatit is time to kind of finally,
let's put a bookend on this.
Let me end not my love, notyour memory, not my longing for
you, but maybe, just maybe, Ican begin the end of my mourning
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in that way I'm going to beginthe stagnant mourning.
I'm going to move forward.
I'm going to put a littlemotion in motion.
I didn't mean to say that, butkind of that's what she means.
So this for the first time sincethe last time Karen goes to the
graveyard and it all feels alittle silly to her to talk to
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this headstone because she knowsSid's not there.
She shares this little anecdoteabout how when she was a kid
she'd try to pray and she wasn'treally sure that God could hear
her unless she did it over theradio.
So she'd pretend like she wason a radio.
So she does the same thing forSid.
She expresses to him in anotherpart of the show that she
doesn't know what her moralcompass is at this point.
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She doesn't know if she's goingto end up in perdition If she
moves on and starts, you know,having little fornications,
mergers with other people.
But she has to keep it realwith this con with Sid.
Hey, dude, for the first timesince you died I feel alive
again.
I didn't realize I wasn't aliveuntil now.
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So she decides on her own thatshe's going to no longer wear
the wedding band.
She's going to put it on anecklace, a locket necklace that
he gave her and she's going toenjoy it.
She just doesn't mean I don'tlove you Doesn't mean I don't
care about you and this is silly, I'm just talking to a
headstone anyway but this is meloving you and moving on.
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I think that's the best partyou can.
Two things can be true at once.
Five things can be true at once.
She could be totally devastatedthat he's gone, miss him so
dearly, wish he was around.
But also her heart is healing.
She's able to discover love andshe also thanks him for that.
Thank you for teaching me howto love.
Thank you for giving me thegift of love that I can now
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hopefully find again.
I loved it Perfection and Ilove how just open she is all
the time.
But you can tell this was aharder subject for her, but she
always had like this littlesmile on her face.
It's that kind of wrestlingwith that giddiness and like in
between, being giddy and dazedand confused Seems to be a
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little more confusion.
On the cul-de-sac, let's goahead and jump into my favorite
people to talk about sideways,the Ewing's featuring Abby
Cunningham.
Did I tell you, guys, I wasstaying at a hotel and I went
down to the front desk.
I forgot why I was going downthere, but I picked up a card
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and, like the hotel's manager'sname was Abby Cunningham.
I got so excited.
The kid had no idea what I wastalking about.
I guess we have to start withthe beginning.
Methanol Methanol is supposed tobe this great new alternative
energy that could change the waythe world runs.
This adorable guy from NorthMexico had an old bootleg
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distillery and he decided tomake.
Turn lemons into lemonade, ifyou will.
Turn booze into cruise fuel.
Turn a little wheat intomethanane, methanol, whatever.
I learned this episode?
That it is not drinkable, whichis completely devastating.
If all this doesn't work out,you're going to have maybe they
could distill it a couple moretimes and call it put some hair
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on your chest or something likethat.
But here's the deal.
Not only is this technology oldand new, the way to produce it
is old, the use is new, whichmakes people a little bit
hesitant.
But unfortunately there's thisantiquated law on the books.
We discover this when Richardis over at the house.
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He's talking to Abby and Gary,while Val is chilling upstairs
in her Laura Ingalls Wilder robe.
God, the robes on the show suck.
Anyway, richard was like listen,there's all sorts of
prohibition laws that make itreally illegal to bring liquor
across the border.
To those of us who are, I thinkmillennials were probably the
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last people who got to do thisfreely.
If you live on one of theborder states and I do mean in
the US, california, new Mexico,in the US California, new Mexico
, arizona or Texas then you knowit was a rite of passage to go
to Mexico on your 18th birthdayto drink.
Not saying everybody did it,but it was very, very common for
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people to drive down on theweekend and have a good time.
Where I lived, they would go toOJ and have a good old time and
then come back Like people usedto do it all the time.
Matter of fact, I think I'vesaid this before on the show
people would cross the borderall the time like back and forth
.
People would go shopping forsturdy furniture, just different
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things like that.
Probably we're the lastgeneration who got to do that.
Things started getting a littlefunny in the you know, the mid
2000s, 2010.
So it's not nearly as friendlyI would imagine.
If you live, maybe, in Canadaand you or Detroit, you know
what I mean.
There's border states, bordercountries there's it's not
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always what you see on the news.
A lot of time it's prettyfriendly.
You just kind of walk back andforth.
Where was I going with all that?
Oh, okay, that's where I wasgoing with that.
So because of this kind ofknowledge in the back of my head
, I was very surprised to hearthat you could not cross the
border with alcohol.
But that makes a lot of senseIf you have to go through
customs.
I figured as long as it wassealed, that wouldn't be a
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problem.
But apparently in 1981 or 1982,that was still a big issue you
could not cross the border withgrain alcohol.
So Abby and Gary are completelylike flabbergasted, like how is
this?
Even who kicked Really?
Richard's like yeah, I'm sosorry, that's what it is.
Richard leaves Abby and Garystart talking ish about how
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uptight richard is since lauraleft him, like he had anything
to do with prohibition.
So they quickly deduce thatthey have to get to the state
capitol, which in this casewould be sacramento, and they
need to bring this um.
Hold on, let me get my lifetogether.
Oh, my american government is alittle bit rusty.
But they need to get to theHouse, they need to get to the
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Capitol so that they can talk tosomeone, talk to a congressman
to get this bill put before theHouse.
Basically, they need a bill.
It's not an addendum, what wasthat called?
They need to basically havethis bill removed or they need
to add another bill that vetoesthis old bill.
You know what I'm saying?
I forget all that works.
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So remember, I told you Valeneis upstairs looking like Laura
Ingalls.
Well, she comes downstairs, Iguess after she doesn't hear
Richard's voice because I knowshe is Lily Mae's child, so I
know she was here hustling atthe top of the steps.
Well, she comes down when it'sjust Abby and Gary and she
happens to see Abby's hand onhis face.
I'm going to be playing devil'sadvocate this entire episode
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because I really do think inthat moment it was kind of
innocent.
She was I hate to use the wordsoothing Gary, but she was like
hey, don't worry about it.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, Ineed to make a brief correction.
Val's robe isn't hideous, itisn't horrible.
It isn't terrible, it justisn't very glamorous.
Had I had nothing else tocompare it to, I would have
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thought it was pretty cute.
It's not bad.
More importantly, she ain'thaving it.
So anyway.
Anyway, she comes down thestairs.
So Gary's a little discouragedto find out that there's this
sort of random but huge obstaclein the way of his dream.
He tells Abby okay, find outwho the chairman is of the
committee, who's in charge ofbringing bills before the house,
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and we'll figure out how totalk to him.
And Abby just kind of has herhand on his cheek the way you
would like your nephew.
It's not really sensual in thatway.
It seems very innocent.
But if you already don't likesomebody, you don't like
somebody.
So when Valene comes down thestairs she sees Abby's palm on
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Gary's chin and Abby looks upreal happy oh hi, val Val don't
say nothing.
And Abby looks up real happy.
Oh hi, val Val don't saynothing.
She can't stand this woman.
And okay, so now we have theVidalia Onion Queen is turning
up the heat just a little bit,okay.
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So there was a series ofnon-Google-able research moments
.
Abby pretty much figures outthat the Senator Senator Riker,
what a coincidence is about tobe heading out of town.
I guess she just made a phonecall.
I just made that way morecomplicated than it needs to be.
I was like, oh my gosh, how didshe get his personal schedule?
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She probably called and talkedto his secretary so they figure
out that he is about to go on atrip and if he goes on this trip
he will not be able to presentthis bill to the committee in
front of the house and get itvetoed.
Like they're pretty confidentthat no one cares about corn
liquor from Mexico.
Like, no harm, no foul,everybody's drunk anyway over
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here.
Let's just do it.
But the gotcha gotcha is he'snot in the office that day.
He's actually playing golf.
So they decide okay, well, let'sjust go to Sacramento.
It's like an hour flight.
We can be down there and backin no time.
It doesn't hurt Closed mouth,don't get fed, right?
Well?
Gary's like well, girl, well,don't, we have a full job to do.
She goes it's slow here andit's slow here.
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And she's right, in the carbusiness it's not going to be
booming every single day.
Actually, most days are prettyslow.
So he's like okay, yeah, Iguess we should.
And her thing is don't forgetthat we have money invested in
this, let's just go do this.
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Gary's acting all fidgety andweird, but the truth is he's
worried and Abby clocks it.
So Abby's like listen, is thisbecause your wife doesn't like
seeing us together.
Now here we go here.
Now that I know who she is alittle bit.
She's telling the truth, butshe's also stirring the pot.
They always say every, everygood lie has a little bit of
truth in it.
So she's like okay, gary, doyou not want to go?
Because your wife is going tobe upset.
And he's like it's complicated.
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She's like it's not thatcomplicated.
I have a lot of money investedinto this company too.
We have to take care ofbusiness and I'm not going to.
I mean, I don't think it's fairthat you're you won't want to
go because your wife is jealousof me.
Did anybody say she was jealous,abby?
That's not what he said.
That's not how.
I don't know how Val felt.
I don't think she's jealous,she's just suspicious.
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She has her suspicions abouty'all's interactions, plus y'all
spend a lot of time together.
I'm sure she don't really likethat.
Plus she knows a history, plusshe knows that her man has a
history.
So a lot of this sort of venomthat she's not actually spewing
and I do mean Val probably comesfrom the fact that she knows
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Gary has already stepped out.
She knows Abby has alreadystepped out.
Well, I guess Abby didn't stepout.
It's not adultery on her part,but she knows how Abby works.
I suppose if Gary will go forsomeone who is calm and very put
together, like Judy not at allas seductress then what is he
going to do with Abby?
I'm assuming this, this is meprojecting.
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Val has not actually said this,not like that at least.
So Gary goes home to say hewalks in the door and the first
thing he says is hey, we got togo to Sacramento.
And she's like, oh my God, I'mnot packed, like what are we
going for?
He says, hey, we got to go toSacramento.
She's like, oh my God, I'm notpacked.
What are we going for?
He goes, no, not not you and me, me and Abby, we got to go.
I'm kind of on the fence.
He walks in and like he's toldAbby he already knows that this
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is sort of a tense situation,but here's the truth, here's the
tea.
Here's the tea.
You can have a feeling aboutsomething with no proof.
We call it intuition.
It took me a really long timeto trust that intuition.
Val's definitely got it.
She's able to put piecestogether.
Like I said, she's going off ofGary's past.
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She sees what she sees in frontof her.
She'd be a fool not to be atleast a little bit suspicious.
So he comes in and he says thatand he's already pissed, as he's
saying it because he quoteunquote knows that she's going
to be pissed.
That's such a lose-losesituation.
I hate when people do that,like, don't give me bad news and
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not give me the opportunity toreact the way I choose to react.
If you get to react, how come Idon't get to react?
It has nothing to do with beingmature, but it's like you can't
Bogart this.
That's very manipulative, eventhough I don't think he's trying
to be manipulative here.
But he's just, he's okay, letme just.
Let me move on.
He starts in we have to go toSan Diego, we have to go to
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Sacramento.
She thinks that he means sheand him.
He tells her it's him and Abby,and then he immediately starts
getting a little bit louderbecause he can tell she's upset
and he says damn it, val.
I want you to know thisbusiness isn't just a nine to
five.
We're going to have to worktogether.
We're going to have to do thesethings.
I know you don't trust me.
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Now here's the other thing whenVal has intuition.
I think Gary is dealing with alittle bit of guilt because he
is lying by omission.
He has not told her about thekiss.
I've had a little time betweenthe kiss and now.
I am not defending it, but Iwill say I'm not granting you a
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lot of grace, but I canunderstand you getting caught up
in the moment.
I can, ok, we can, we canaccount for being excited.
But he is walking around withthe full knowledge that you know
he had a moment of passion.
He's spending a lot of timearound this person.
I still like I'm I'm standingby that.
He's not really given that Iwant her vibe, but I think that
he thinks Val might know alittle bit more than she's
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letting on.
So this conversation is really,really tense.
He's like I have to work, Ineed to go, why don't you just
come with us?
She then bows like see now.
So now you're going to have melooking like the jealous old
wife who won't let her husbanddo anything.
He doesn't know the jealous oldwife who won't let her husband
do anything.
He tells her no, just come,learn about my business, be
involved.
I want you there, I want you tocome.
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I'm kind of on his side rightnow.
Just y'all better enjoy itCause the way.
Okay, enjoy it for about 35seconds so I'll tell you about
the look on his face.
I think that's kind of a greatthing.
That's actually a pretty goodcompromise.
Come learn Then I.
He also said that he felt guilty.
He's kind of a great thing.
That's actually a pretty goodcompromise.
Come learn then I.
He also said that he felt guilty.
He's tired of feeling guilty.
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I think that's kind of a doublemeaning.
You're tired of feeling guiltybecause you're not being you did
not honest about at least thatkiss.
Or you feel guilty too becauseyou're working so many hours.
It's taking a lot from he andBelle and also he's working
withby so much.
It's not a lose-lose situation,but god dang it if this man
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don't stop.
Just he makes god.
You know, when you go to thedentist you have a little work
done and you can't quite fillyour face.
He, he moves his face so muchhe wiggles.
He wiggles his face the waylance bass wiggles his eyebrows,
and it drives me crazy.
No shade to Lance.
You know he's in sync.
I love you forever.
However, just damn Eyebrows bejust double dutching.
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It drives me crazy.
And this kid's face is the samething.
Like damn, gary.
Okay, jackalford, we knowyou're acting.
Damn.
Where was I?
They get on the first thingsmoking and they go to
Sacramento and these people pullup on this Senator on the golf
cart course.
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Long story short, the Senatorwas in the middle of a golf game
.
He didn't really want to talkabout this during his golf game,
but you know, three heads arebetter than one.
They managed to convince himmostly Abby that hey, we're not
going to bother you, we're notgoing to interrupt your game,
but there's this littleoversight on the state law books
about prohibition.
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We think it's time to maybe cutthat.
Do you think you can get thatdone?
We will only talk to youbetween holes.
I do not know enough about golfto tell you what that means.
But in between those, whileyou're chilling, we'll just talk
to you about it.
And from what I know about golf, golf takes a really long time
to play.
So, yeah, not a bad idea.
Well, gary and Valene, all butgive up, because the Senator's
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like you know what.
Dude, I totally understand whatyou're saying.
I sure would hate for you guysto lose any money with your new
business endeavors and whatnot.
But I just don't think I can dothis and plus I'm going out of
town tomorrow.
So I'm really sorry.
Let's just you know, maybewe'll we'll talk about it.
I'm not saying no, I'm justsaying no like no today.
So Val and Gary are like dang,I guess we're going to go back
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home.
And Abby says well, y'all goahead and go.
I have some friends, a coupleup here that I know I'm just
going to hang out with themtonight.
Maybe they have a few stringsthey can pull.
Let me, let me continue to work.
Y'all go ahead and go home andbe happy.
She's got her mind on her money,her money on her mind.
So she goes and she puts on herfinest golden girl dress and
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she shows up at the senator'soffice under the cloak of
darkness.
Now, why he would be at hisoffice this late, I'm sure I
don't know, but he is, and I'mglad he is because she has the
opportunity to walk in and struther stuff.
So here's another side of Abbythat I'm discovering.
First of all, she does herhomework.
Actually, I'm not surprised bythat, because she was all in
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those books on the whole ghostepisode she prepares.
So she did her studying, shedid her research and she's able
to kind of schmooze the Senator.
Senator, I know who you are andI'm an admirer of your work.
I've seen the bills you'vepassed, I've seen the causes
you've taken up and I thinkpartnering with you would be
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perfection.
We are trying to bring a newsustainable fuel option to the
United States of America.
Think what you could do, notonly for me, not only for my
partner and his business, butfor this country.
We could change it.
Like she sells it, I'm likedamn, I'm tempted to go out here
and pour a little booze in mygas tank.
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Only we all know that didn'twork out.
So the senator is absorbing whatshe's saying and you know what
she's hitting all the rightnotes.
My ego is struck.
I'm not really inconvenienced.
She's making a lot of sense.
What if I brought a new source,a new sustainable source of
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energy, to the United States?
What could that do for me?
This is me riffing here, guys.
What could this do for mypolitical career?
All I hear is wins.
All I do is win.
What did you say?
Your name was young lady.
My name is Abby Cunningham.
Would you like to go to dinnerwith me tonight?
We can discuss it over dinner.
Here's a thing I say this everytime I watch this show this is
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what knots landing does best.
Now we can deduce fromeverything you know about abby
from season two to now where doyou think they went to dinner?
Do you think it extended pastdinner?
Or can we accept that maybe sheis not only?
She's got more than boobs,she's boobs and brain, and not
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for nothing.
She reads people like a book.
It is, it's perfection.
She understands what humanswant and what they need.
So the next time we see Gary, heis giving a just country
bumpkin, whooping, holler, whoo,I'm not even gonna do it in
this house.
He hollers, he is right,excited, as they say Val's like
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what, you, what, what happened,what happened?
And he says Abby got thesenator to basically go along
with us.
He's gonna present the billtonight.
Blah, blahah, blah, blah.
It's probably going to pass.
Blah, blah, blah.
Val is excited.
Oh my God, that's so awesome.
They're celebrating in thekitchen.
I think this is where she'swearing that raggedy robe.
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It's not raggedy, it's just notDynasty.
It's not Val and Chris.
So, in the midst of all thiscelebrating Val, writing Val is,
you know, asking the standardquestions.
Oh my gosh, I can't believe shegot it done.
Way to go, abby.
Was she still in Sacramento?
And Gary says no, she's backhome, it's morning.
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Val's like she's already backhome.
Yeah, gary, he don't care.
All he heard is that we aboutto make this money.
So he's not, he don't carewhere she's at, he don't care
how she got home, but all Val ishearing like, wait a minute,
she must, okay, she must haveworked all night.
Is that what you're saying?
And he goes.
Maybe, I guess, I don't know.
Money, money, money, money,money.
So Valene starts to thinking,the onion rings start to
steaming and she deduces okay, Ican't just sit here, I got to
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get up and go say something.
This is where, for the firsttime, I find myself sort of
challenging her logic just alittle bit.
But there you go Intuition.
You don't have to know why, youknow.
Sometimes, you just know somestuff.
Also, just like two things canbe true at the same time, you
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can be right about something inthe wrong moment, meaning, let's
say, you have a sticky fingerfriend or Uncle Klepto.
Every time he comes to yourhouse, something's missing.
You've never seen him take it.
But two plus two is four.
Unless he's around, then itgets stolen.
One time you run up on him whenhe's padding his back pocket,
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after, I don't know, one of yourGlade plugins goes missing.
You're like hey, uncle Klepto,empty your pockets.
Sure enough, he empties hispockets and his pockets are
empty.
Okay, you was wrong, but tellme why?
He gets in the car and heremoves your necklace from his
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neck.
It's kind of one of thosesituations Like okay, I just
haven't caught you, but I know,like I know, like I know,
something is going on.
Enter the best scene of thisepisode Vidalia, the onion queen
, feels a way.
She walks I don't know ahundred yards, a hundred feet to
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Abby's house and knocks on thedoor.
Abby's like hey, girl, abby'swearing a hideous robe.
That's what I kept thinkingabout.
Abby has on the plainest redrobe ever.
It's almost an insult to her,but I guess she needs to be
demure this episode.
She's like hey, val, what'sgoing on, girl?
I love this scene.
I love this scene.
I love this scene.
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So Val comes in.
She's obviously been ponderingwhat's going on.
She decided she's going to havea little newbie, and not this
morning.
Instead forgive me if you canhear the thunder instead of a
little ponytail.
She says Abby, I got to ask yousomething.
Did you convince the senator tochange his mind or did your
friends?
Now Abby still has a smile onher face and she's like well,
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she's kind of surprised.
I'm also surprised that Valwould approach her in this way.
Anytime you've seen Val approachsomebody, it hasn't been based
on an inkling, it hasn't beenbased on her opinion.
She's like the feds.
She's showing up with the facts.
Not this time.
She's going straight from theheart.
Was it you or was it yourfriends?
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Abby and abby's like excuse me,then, val, that was another
hook.
I just wasn't.
I wasn't expecting her to sayshe goes, if it was you, you
shouldn't be ashamed of it,implying that this, this is
another one of those doublemeanings.
If I'm understanding thiscorrectly, if you did sleep with
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the Senator to get this billpassed and you're okay doing
that, you shouldn't be ashamed.
Or if you did that and you hadto do it, then you shouldn't be
ashamed.
Or if you just convinced him,you shouldn't be ashamed.
It's a challenge.
It's not a statement, it is achallenge.
This is the moment Mark, thisdate, this time On episode three
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, excuse me, season three,episode 17,.
Excuse me, season three, episode17,.
Letting Go was the day that JetShae realized Abby is not one
to play with.
I've had suspicions, myintuition told me that, but this
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is one of the best scenes Girl,guys, fellas and ladies.
Baby, she's something else.
In the same breath, valene, theVidalia Onion Queen, might have
grown some thorns or somethickles or something.
I don't know.
What's going on with her today.
She's not one to play with.
She says Abby, if you did, youshouldn't be ashamed and you
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should tell Gary so that you getcredit for this bill passing.
Abby kind of scoffs and she'slike girl.
You know Gary wouldn'tunderstand.
The law is going to be repealed, val, that's all that matters.
So in my judgment, in my kindof understanding of this scene,
it's like Val.
That was my biggest question.
I've been pondering this for alittle bit.
Why does Val insist that Abbytell Gary about this?
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Does she want her to admit thatmaybe she slept with the
senator to get these favors?
In my mind, val wants Gary toknow what Abby is willing to do.
It's almost like I want you toprove me right, but also I want
him to see what he's fallinginto or what he could be falling
into.
I don't know.
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I don't know if this is reallyfor her or if it's really for
Gary, because at the end of theday, we all know she's calling
her bluff.
Val is calling Abby's bluff.
She knows she's not going totell.
And, let's be honest, abby'scalling Val's bluff.
She knows that Val don't wanther to tell.
And, let's be honest, abby'scalling Val's bluff.
She knows that Val don't wanther to tell him.
She knows this.
So Val's like that's all thatcounts.
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Huh, that's all you worriedabout.
Abby said listen, valina,there's things called resources.
You use them.
People use what they have.
Some people have a lot of money.
They use that to get what theywant.
Some people have a lot of power.
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They use that to get what theywant.
Some people have a lot of power.
They use that to get what theywant.
You have to be smart.
I am paraphrasing here.
You have to be wise.
You have to use what you haveand the resources available to
you to get what you want.
Basically, she's saying besmart, use what you got to get
what you want.
Use things to get what you want.
You let that sit with you andVal's like well, what about
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what's right and what's wrong.
Now see, that's what I'm like,val.
You're contradicting yourself.
What are you implying here?
We all know what this is.
This is it.
This is the moment I'm callingit now.
This is at least for me.
I don't know about anybody else.
I envy you OGs who know what'son the other side of this, but
also I would never tell somebodyto envy me.
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I God, this is amazing.
I'm so, so, so, so glad I'mgetting to see this.
Val tells her you know what doyou?
What about right and wrong?
Abby says worry about right andwrong when you're fed.
Basically, take care ofyourself first.
When you know where your nextmeal's coming from, then you can
worry about good and evil,right and wrong.
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I believe millennials Aladdintold us the exact same thing.
Did he or did he not?
Was he a street rat or was hejust hungry?
Did he or did he not usescheming and scamming and a
genie to get what he wanted?
I'm just saying this pisses Valoff.
She's like girl.
First off, don't talk aboutbeing hungry.
You rich biatch, are you forreal right now?
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That's how you really feel,abby?
Abby calls her blood.
What do you think, val?
Oh, I love this.
This is like 20 seconds.
I have stretched it out to twominutes, but it's like a 20
second scene.
What do you think Val?
Val says I think I need to keepboth eyes on you.
I think I'm going to bewatching you.
I'll be watching you like ahawk in the sky.
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Now, I suppose in some circles,especially in the South, that
might be an insult, but, as wediscovered several episodes ago,
abby is unfaithful.
She's not bothered by youropinion and she says you know
what, val, you do that.
Keep a good eye on me, baby.
How else you gonna learn?
Oh, she said watch and learn.
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Vidalia, lord, have mercy.
Is this a line in the sand?
Abby, is it just?
I am blown away by her kind ofI don't want to say it's a lack
of a conscience, but sort ofshe's not bothered.
She is truly unbothered bypeople.
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Tell them, val is basicallywhat she's saying.
Tell them you want me to tellhim, you really want me to tell
him.
This is an interesting playbecause, at the end of the day,
gary is still growing.
I forget that he is coming offof this.
I'm not the good enough son.
I'm not a real Ewing.
He's not that he really caredabout being a Ewing, but you
know what I mean.
They're known for theirbusiness acumen.
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And him not only.
You know he's not in themafioso.
This time he's found somethingbrand new.
It's energy-based, it'sbeautiful.
There's got to be a small partof him that wants to make sure.
Not only he wants it to succeedbecause it's exciting and it's
business.
But this could changeeverything for him, maybe, maybe
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.
I love the fangs that came out.
I love this.
So there was no admission fromGabby.
She's like okay, you think whatyou think, but I'm going to
tell you something Use yourresources wisely to get what you
want.
My, oh, my Baby.
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That was delightful.
I think I'm going to pourmyself a little more bubbly.
It's sparkling water.
I might go Google and see whatMartha talking about as far as
cocktails, but oh my gosh.
So so, so good.
Go ahead and join me next timeas we jump back into another
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classic, vintage primetime soapopera.
In the meantime, in betweentime, there's no other way to
say it Use what you got to getwhat you want.
But don't be surprised if yourun up on the Vidalia Onion
Queen and wake up dead messingwith her.
Stay hydrated, stay moisturized, mind your own business and
keep all of your drama on TV.
He wiggles his face the way Lance Bass wiggles his
eyebrows and it drives me crazy.
No shade to Lance.
You know he's in sync.
I love you forever.
However, just damn eyebrows bejust double dutching.
It drives me crazy.
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Hello, gorgeous Welcome, orwelcome back to another fun film
edition of Soap Lore.
I am sort of feeling myself I'min a new space today.
I hope your day is going great.
We have got a very interestingepisode of Not Slander to jump
into today, season 3, episode17,.
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Letting Go it's all about theshuns and the shuns Intuition
submission shun from public eyebecause you're embarrassed.
Not on these shows, not today.
I am going to enjoy myself alittle bit of normal sparkling
water along with a watermelonfeta basil salad that I chopped
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very finely and put into agorgeous dish because Martha
said it would be fabulous.
Martha said it would befabulous and she was right.
We have a little bit of fanmail that we're going to jump
right into.
Shout out to Shelly.
I was also inspired by Shellyto take a walk after I read her
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email.
Shelly writes thank you for thewonderful podcast.
It brings me back to the glorydays of my favorite nighttime
soaps.
I enjoy your comments and yourcommentary.
I loved Knott's Landing, dynastyand Dallas.
In that order, I like FalconCrest but it didn't really
compare to the top three.
My simple observation is thisKnott's Landing has the best
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character development.
A lot of the characters reallygrew or changed during the
series.
Dynasty by far had the bestsettings.
Dallas has the best plots.
Thank you so much, shelly.
She says that she went on afour mile walk.
I didn't get quite that far,but I sure appreciate you
listening.
I thought about this after Iread her email.
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I think I fell kind of head overheels in love with Falcon Crest
at the beginning because itfelt a little bit more like a
drama and I think I was justmore.
I don't think I'm more inclinedto like it, maybe I'm just more
trained.
You know what I'm saying.
I'm just seeing more dramas.
So I really enjoyed that punchand I to me my big three were
Falcon Crest in Dallas.
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But I can admit now that if Ihad started watching Knott's
Landing first, I think my mythoughts on Falcon Crest might
be a little bit different.
But because I'm four seasonsdeep, I really fallen in love
with the characters.
I kind of like the way they dothings.
I love it.
But I can admit to myself thathad Knott's Landing, dynasty and
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Dallas shown up, I might havenever heard about Falcon Crest,
which I think is a lot of thethe kind of grumblings from the
Falcon Crest community.
It always sort of comes up asan afterthought.
Lucky for me got to wait tillthese were 40 years old before I
started watching them.
So, hey, thank god forstreaming.
I didn't have to choose, butyou know what someone we care
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about does.
Go ahead and pour yourself upsomething bubbly and bright.
I think I need just a little bitmore to wash this down as we
jump into season three, episode17 of not slanding, letting go.
This episode is riddled withshuns I don't know any way else
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to say it Like there's so manythoughts, there's so many
nuances on this episode,starting with Uncle Joe.
I'm so glad to have him as anew addition to this show.
He brings a certain level ofkind of not fierceness, but he's
not afraid of Karen.
I don't think anybody isoutright like terrified she's
going to do anything to them.
But don't anybody want to gotoe-to-toe with Karen?
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Nobody on that road wants to.
So we're going to get rid ofJoe first, because he is one of
the big players.
We see this bright yellow cabpull up with not slamming cabco
on it.
It drops off this randombrunette.
This woman jumps out the car.
I thought she was for sure aJehovah's Witness or that she
was about to start selling Avonor something.
To my surprise, this is Joe'ssweetheart.
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It's Miss Thang Thang from backeast.
It's early in the morning.
He comes outside.
He looks like he's about to goto work when all of a sudden he
sees her, lorraine, joe, reachout for each other and and share
warm embrace.
Oh my god, what are you doinghere in la?
Yeah, uh, uh, merger.
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We have some things to do outin la.
And he's like, oh great, well,is there anything I can do for
you?
And she's like yeah, you can goahead and break your girl off
some.
She flew all the way across thecountry to get a list I'm going
to keep it cute, just in casethere's a couple of kids.
She needed a merger, adifferent kind of merger.
She wants to merge with Joe.
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It's been a long flight.
She's had some very long nights.
Listen, let's go ahead and dowhat we need to do.
Joe, now I'm surprised.
I thought Joe had business toattend to, but he turns on his
heels.
They go upstairs and they havea morning merger and then they
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chase their morning merger witha little breakfast.
It is at this point that Joerealizes, oh my God, I have a
whole job I'm supposed to be at.
He's thinking like wait aminute, this is LA, this is
traffic.
I have a noon class.
He was clearly leaving thehouse at like 8 am, so he goes.
I guess I'm not going to worktoday.
Let me go ahead and callsomebody Good to see you,
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lorraine.
Well, over the course of theshow, one thing you start to
notice is that they do have thiswonderful chemistry.
They're just kind of bouncingthings off of each other.
Remember this.
Remember that you start todeduce that they probably had a
really substantial relationship,but nobody seems upset about it
.
It's on the contrary, they seemto be pretty enamored with one
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another.
But then you also start tonotice that this woman ain't
really going anywhere.
He's like I thought you saidyou had to work.
Oh yeah, I did, I do, but Ijust came into town a little bit
earlier.
You know what I'm saying.
I just want to spend time withyou.
I wanted to see you, joe.
I need mergers.
I've had mergers in a while.
They also sort of casuallymentioned in passing that Joe
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likes to gamble a little bit.
Lorraine makes a comment likeyou'll bet on anything If you
call up a bookie and say hey,put $10 on this whole, $5 on
this, over and under, blah, blah, blah.
That's called gambling.
And Joe's like nah, it's notgambling, but everybody's
smiling about it.
So they don't outright say hehas a gambling problem and maybe
he doesn't.
I'm just saying this is a soapopera.
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After all, everybody needsadvice.
He seems pretty squeaky cleanat this point, so we will see if
anything comes of that.
Shortly after Lorraine's arrival, karen comes home and Karen's
usually like oh my God, lorraine, what are you doing here?
Hey, girl, they get along fine.
Apparently, they've met eachother several times before,
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which adds to my suspicion thatthey had a substantial
relationship she and joe, thatis ray's like girl, your house
is so cute.
I can't believe.
This is the first time I'vebeen out to cali to see y'all.
I'm so sorry about this.
Um, yeah, I'm here for work.
I'm working here.
I'm here for work.
Here's like oh, that's great,joe the word.
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They go into the other room.
She's like I know she's notsleeping in my house.
Now, you think she won't sleepin my house.
He's like well, of course sheis.
Karen turns into Joe's mom.
There will be no fornication inmy house.
That's the invocation.
Sean, no fornication of myhouse and doing god knows what,
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whatever you want under theblankets.
That's inappropriate.
He's like oh my god, breathe,relax.
We'll get into why she she hasthat little fit here in a little
bit.
So the truth sort of oozes out,it trickles out slowly over the
episode and it goes somethinglike this Lorraine is and was,
and most likely will always be,very focused on her career.
She's a great lawyer.
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She loves that and she lovesJoe.
Joe wanted a family in marriagebut Lorraine wasn't there.
I totally get where she'scoming from late 70s, early 80s.
She's trying to put stamp, herprint or I can't even think of
the word right now.
She's trying to solidify hercareer.
She wants to be a lawyer.
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She needs to put in a lot oftime for that and you know
marriage and kids just wasn'tthat.
I'm thinking that if she had Joewhile she was, you know when
she and Joe were together.
You know he's teaching Whileshe was.
You know when she and Joe weretogether, you know he's teaching
she's being a lawyer, they'rehappy.
It's just you can always kindof kick the can down the road oh
yeah, we'll have kids someday,someday, someday.
Well, it seems like his somedayran out when he decided he
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wasn't going to go to Californiaand now she's filling the void.
All the things that were, youknow semi pleasurable, are just
horrible.
Now they're mundane.
She misses them all day and allnight.
So she's come to the conclusionthat there's no time like the
present.
If this is what you want, thenI want that too.
I will want whatever you want,which immediately you already
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know if you're a real one makesme think of one of the greatest
films ever, one of the firstfilms I ever saw, which is
wildly inappropriate when youthink about my age coming to
america.
What kind of foods do you like?
Whatever foods you like.
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Unfortunately, joe does not telllorraine to bark like a dog, a
big dog.
He doesn't do all that, but butinstead she tells him hey, you
win.
He's like what do you mean?
I went, you win on your terms,I want to be with you on your
term.
And he's like okay, cause yourefresh my memory.
What are my terms?
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Children and marriage.
I want that because I want you.
Now they're saying this under apillow fort on the floor.
It seems very innocent.
He's smiling dimples on fulldisplay.
But, like a lot of things, alight of day really brings
things to fruition.
So after she tells him this thenight, that night, the next
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morning, it's just not reallysitting well with Joe the next
morning in their understatedfinest bathrobes from Sears, the
truth is unraveled on the frontlawn in a cul-de-sac.
I just know Lily Mae is forshow ear hustling from the
window.
The way that Lorraine presentedthe marriage and children didn't
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sit right with Joe because shesaid you win, you can have the
home and the family, the thingsyou've been agitating for.
That just feels like amicrowave promise.
That feels very like here.
Fine, if you insist here, I'lldo it.
And he didn't feel that he'slike that's not love, that's not
devotion, it's a dream, poorlywrapped in contrition at best.
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Lorraine wants him, not thefamily.
That's the part that's reallynot sitting well with him.
He's able to really articulateto her that wanting him and
settling poor family is not thesame thing.
He loves her, but he also knowsthat she would only have the
kids to appease him and notbecause she wanted them.
He wants her to want her ownchildren, not to say that she's
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going to hate him or anythinglike that, not to say that she
wouldn't be a super awesome mom,but it's the principle of it.
He wants his kids to grow up ina home where both parents want
them.
He wants them to grow up one.
He commends Sid and Karen forraising their kids the way they
did.
He's like her.
He says to Lorraine my sister'skids are strong, they're tough
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because they grew up in a housewhere two people wanted them to
be there and they loved him.
He's not really willing tocompromise on that.
And Lorraine's like listen, it'snot that I don't want it, but
just I don't know that that'snot the life I had.
I don't know anything abouthaving a happy family.
I don't know anything aboutbeing in a secure place as a
child.
So it's not that she doesn'twant it, and I can totally
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understand where she's comingfrom, especially if she loves
him.
She just can't imagine it.
She doesn't have theimagination to allow her body or
mind to kind of catch up.
So she's like listen, this,this all I got.
I'm standing out here in thisred terry cloth robe offering
you my heart and a family, butthat's all I can give you.
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That's not enough.
I don't know what else to tellyou, joe.
I don't know what to tell you.
So later on, towards the end ofthe show, you see lorraine and
karen out there digging in theyard.
It's very clear that lorrainehas never dug in dirt in her
life, not one time.
She is struggling with thatlittle shovel and she and Karen
are talking.
We'll get to their conversationat the end, but just know that
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it appears that she and Joe havea.
Um seems like he rethinks it alittle bit and I'm not mad at it
.
I really enjoy the dynamic ofthem there.
But you know what we can talkabout that once we get to Karen.
So Karen remember, on the lastepisode she met a fellow called
Larry.
Very generic name, kind of ageneric guy.
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Only a generic guy is what youneed Sometimes.
You don't need all the bellsand whistles, you just need
something plain which you needsometimes.
You don't need all the bellsand whistles, you just need
something playing.
Every now and again I get ahankering for a.
Mind you, I grew up in Texas,guys.
So when I say coke, I mean likea coke, not just a coke.
Okay, first and foremost, I donot mean the book of sugar a la
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Peter DeFilla Buster.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
I am talking about a carbonatedbeverage in a can, not
necessarily the brand coca-cola.
So every now and then I want acoke.
But the coke I want is thischeap.
There's to be a store brandcalled sure fine.
I hadn't seen it in years, butthink of it as like the Walmart
brand, just that, whatever thestore's brand is a sure fine
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cream soda.
Every now and again I get ahankering for sure fine cream
soda.
I want a good, cheap cream sodaor good, cheap root beer.
Now, truth be told, these areall probably made in the exact
same factory as the higher endproducts, but it's just
something about something beingcheap and easily available that
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hits the spot.
Sometimes that's what you need,larry.
Is that cheap, sure fine cola?
He's that cheap, sure fine rootbeer or cream soda.
They're hitting it off.
He's showing up, he's hangingout at the house Hell, he even
picked up the garbage to take itout without being prompted.
Well, he feels like they'vebeen going together for a little
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bit and he says Karen, I thinkit's time we move to the next
level.
Why ever?
What do you mean Larry?
Larry means kissing.
I want to kiss you, karen.
I want to share a passionatekiss with you.
She's like well, okay, so theykiss.
You see her sort of melt into amoment, but her eyes close.
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She opens her eyes and she'slike hmm, I like that.
So they do it again.
She kisses them again.
This is all wonderful.
It's not very clear at thispoint how long it's been.
By my guesstimation, I guessit's been around nine-ish months
since Sid has passed on Forthis episode.
Although Laura is not in it,she is mentioned once or twice
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but she is my measuring tape forthis hypothesis.
I think that she was notpregnant when Sid died.
Suddenly she's three.
Well no, so I guess this couldbe about a year later.
Laura is around.
By my estimation.
She's around about five, sixmonths pregnant.
I think it has been 10 to 14months since it has passed away.
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Anyway, things are going goodwith Larry A little too good,
but the thing about it isnothing about.
It is too good to be true.
He's genuine, he's into her andshe's into him.
Thank you party people forbearing with me.
Up until now had a little bitof technical difficulties.
I hope we are back on track.
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So, like I was saying, I'musing Laura as a measuring guide
.
It's been at least a year or sosince Sid has passed away.
So Karen for lack of a betterterm, she was kind of shook
after the kiss, not because itwas a bad kiss because it was a
kiss she liked so much.
She is realizing for the firsttime that, you know, that part
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of her isn't gone.
She thought her we grown here.
She thought her libido is gone.
She thought with the death ofSid, you know, she wasn't really
trying to think about datinganyone, she didn't really want
to open Pandora's box.
But this seems to be the firsttime she's considering that as
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an option and so there's thissort of giddiness that she's
suppressing.
But there's also a lot ofconfusion surrounding this
because after all, she's a widow.
She's in mourning.
Can a mourning widow have thesesorts of desires?
This is my interpretation.
Guys, feel free to watch theshow.
I feel like you'll probably getsort of the same thing.
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But the thing I love aboutwatching Karen the most is that
Karen is always Karen in front.
Whether she's in front ofsomebody or behind the scenes,
she's exactly the same person.
She's totally unafraid to spillher guts or not spill her guts
or, you know, yell at one of thekids and then pat him on the
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back.
She's not afraid to show thoseemotions.
So coming to this point where,under normal circumstances,
barring her being a widow, let'ssay it's an alternate universe
where she is a 38 year old womanmeeting a man she really likes.
It probably would not have beenas difficult to just sort of
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allow those feelings to flowlike she'd want them to.
But she's very confused Is thistoo soon?
Am I allowed to have thesefeelings?
Am I still married?
All of the things are kind offloating up to the surface.
Well, turns out, larry, wholikes to travel and likes to buy
cars in his leisure, really,really likes Karen, so much so
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that he's a little bit hesitantto get on a plane and fly back
to Houston to take care of somebusiness.
Apparently, one of the workprojects he was working on went
bottoms up.
They have to kind of rebuild,redo, and it feels like he's
going to be gone for asignificant amount of time.
So he says hey, karen, whydon't you come with me?
I'd really love for you to goto houston and have a good time
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oh my god, my accent and have agood time in houston, not
houston, houston.
She shook, she don't want to dothat.
But she does want to do itbecause at the end of the day
she's still a red-bloodedAmerican woman with midnight,
midday and morning needs, andyou know what Larry's looking
like.
He might know what he's talkingabout.
He might know how to make amerger or two.
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So let's flip back to Joe alittle bit.
So Karen is asked by Larry totravel with oh my God, I don't
know, I have kids, I have allthis blah, blah, blah.
But the to travel with?
Oh my god, I don't know, I havekids, I have all this blah,
blah, blah.
But the truth is, yes, she haskids, yes, they are semi sort of
independent, but also herbrother's there, and she has the
best neighbors on earth, valenewill, will raise those kids
until they're 50, if need be.
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So she could.
But it's like, do I really want?
Anyway, she gets home andsomebody comes around the corner
.
Oh my God, little Marine, isthat you?
Hey girl.
Oh my God, karen, I'm so sorryabout Sid.
I can't believe.
It's the first time I've beento your house.
Every time we meet it's in NewYork.
Yes, yes, it is girl.
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How long are you staying?
Oh, I'm here for work, I'mworking, I'm here for work.
Okay, cool, joe.
A word Joe and Karen go into aseparate room where she rips
into him about the fornicationshe will not allow under her
roof.
You already heard the spiel inJoe's segment of the podcast, so
I won't repeat it here.
But once she's done after hetells her to relax she goes up
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to her room, follows her.
He's like yo, what's reallygoing on?
And she tells him hey, bro, Ikissed larry today.
I kissed larry and I really,really liked it.
I don't know what to do withthat emotion, though, like, do
you like, am I doing too much?
And this is where kid brothercomes in.
This is probably one of theonly people who can just be
really blunt with her.
She's gonna listen to himwithout hesitation because, I
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mean, they're family.
It's also interesting, though.
On this scene we find out thatshe's never actually been to see
his grave after they buried him.
She has never gone back.
So she's sitting on the edge ofthe bed pondering the idea that
maybe her pain is in remission,maybe it's easing up a little
bit now.
Joe thinks she needs to be intransition because at the end of
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the day as he puts it, karen,life is moving on, Things are
going to happen, whether youjump on board or not, and, honey
, at the end of the day, you areno longer Sid Farragate's wife.
You don't even have a choice inthat.
I need you to hear me.
You are not his wife.
You don't even have a choice inthat.
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I need you to hear me.
You are not his wife.
He's not here.
That is a hard thing to hear.
God bless, I'm not a widow, butI mean the whole term widow and
widower.
Widower is that you have lostyour spouse, like there's a
whole title in the Englishlanguage to describe what you
are now.
It doesn't even it makes youknow I've never even considered
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that before this episode that Imean yeah, you're.
I mean, are you no longermarried?
If someone said I guess not,you know you could move on.
Nobody's going to judge you forthat, but I suppose it's up to
the person left living to decidehow long that's going to be.
So that's basically what'sgoing on this episode.
Karen is deciding how long sheis going to be Sid's widow.
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She'll always be his widow, butshe will never, ever be his
wife again.
So Joe decides I can tell he'sprobably thinking after watching
the show seems like he had alittle plan.
He needs to help his sister out.
So he decides he's going tocook dinner.
He's going to kill two birdswith one stone.
Number one.
He needs everybody fat, fulland satisfied so that there'll
be a little bit more pliable ieKaren, because he needs Lorraine
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to stay at the house so theycan have a couple more mergers.
Also he wants to, you know, getthe family together.
It's familiar, this is meprojecting a little bit, but it
seems like a good plan.
Lorraine very much seems likepart of the family, if nothing
else, the kids are used tohaving her around.
They know who she is.
She is a pseudo aunt, eventhough she doesn't have the
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title.
But I love this scene of themjust doing nothing.
They're just eating at thetable, talking about New York,
talking about good times.
They're arguing, everybody'sgoing back and forth but you can
tell it's just all love andit's all so comfortable.
And it feels good to mewatching the show to see so much
life in Karen's house.
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I will say I feel like they'vehandled the whole said thing
really wonderfully.
Everybody's gone through theirlittle thing.
The kids are dealing with itreally really well and I think
Karen is too.
But there's still so much underthe surface that we didn't know.
So after dinner Joe just kindof casually mentions that he
wants to watch home movies.
There's so much we haven't seen.
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And he's using Lorraine kind ofas an excuse, like, oh well,
she didn't see this.
Blah blah, blah blah, I hadn'tseen this.
I've never seen any of yourhome movies.
Let's go ahead and fire up thatprojector.
I have to say I envy anyone whoever had a projector like as an
option.
Never had one of those in myhome.
I mean, I think we might havesomething that we use for
backyard party one time at mymother-in-law's I don't even
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know where it's at.
Anyway, they sit in the livingroom and they start watching
home movies of Sid.
Of course they're at the beach,they're talking, they're all
having a good time and what yousort of feel is it's not sad
like you would think it would be.
But what you realize is thatthere's tons of little moments
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that sit that Karen and the kidshave sort of forgotten.
And watching the film they getto talk.
You know they get to.
They could talk about a littlebit and the more they watch, the
more they see that.
You know some things neverchange.
Diana and Karen are stillarguing every chance they get.
Michael's still not good atholding a camera, although he's
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a baby.
I don't know why you give thisbecause, you know, those little
projectors probably weigh 35pounds I'm exaggerating, but at
least 10, 15 pounds, and hecan't be any more than like four
if he's holding the camera fouror five years ago.
But it's just, it's reallybeautiful.
And how do I put this intowords?
It's almost like a gift.
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You get to see someone you love.
You get to see the person youhave missed so desperately and
that you will always missdesperately.
But now they're at a pointwhere they can talk about him
not as this tragedy, but just ashim.
Sid gets to be just Sid.
He's still their dad.
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He was Karen's husband, he'sjust him.
Now he's not wrapped in justkind of misery and sadness.
There's no gray cloud over it,it's just sort of tiny little
moments of realization, tinylittle memories that were
re-sparked, and everybody seemsto be doing good.
It seems like Michael and Karenweren't really keen on watching
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the films, but they both didpretty okay during it.
So with that, karen decides thatit is time to kind of finally,
let's put a bookend on this.
Let me end not my love, notyour memory, not my longing for
you, but maybe, just maybe, Ican begin the end of my mourning
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in that way I'm going to beginthe stagnant mourning.
I'm going to move forward.
I'm going to put a littlemotion in motion.
I didn't mean to say that, butkind of that's what she means.
So this for the first time sincethe last time Karen goes to the
graveyard and it all feels alittle silly to her to talk to
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this headstone because she knowsSid's not there.
She shares this little anecdoteabout how when she was a kid
she'd try to pray and she wasn'treally sure that God could hear
her unless she did it over theradio.
So she'd pretend like she wason a radio.
So she does the same thing forSid.
She expresses to him in anotherpart of the show that she
doesn't know what her moralcompass is at this point.
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She doesn't know if she's goingto end up in perdition If she
moves on and starts, you know,having little fornications,
mergers with other people.
But she has to keep it realwith this con with Sid.
Hey, dude, for the first timesince you died I feel alive
again.
I didn't realize I wasn't aliveuntil now.
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So she decides on her own thatshe's going to no longer wear
the wedding band.
She's going to put it on anecklace, a locket necklace that
he gave her and she's going toenjoy it.
She just doesn't mean I don'tlove you Doesn't mean I don't
care about you and this is silly, I'm just talking to a
headstone anyway but this is meloving you and moving on.
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I think that's the best partyou can.
Two things can be true at once.
Five things can be true at once.
She could be totally devastatedthat he's gone, miss him so
dearly, wish he was around.
But also her heart is healing.
She's able to discover love andshe also thanks him for that.
Thank you for teaching me howto love.
Thank you for giving me thegift of love that I can now
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hopefully find again.
I loved it Perfection and Ilove how just open she is all
the time.
But you can tell this was aharder subject for her, but she
always had like this littlesmile on her face.
It's that kind of wrestlingwith that giddiness and like in
between, being giddy and dazedand confused Seems to be a
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little more confusion.
On the cul-de-sac, let's goahead and jump into my favorite
people to talk about sideways,the Ewing's featuring Abby
Cunningham.
Did I tell you, guys, I wasstaying at a hotel and I went
down to the front desk.
I forgot why I was going downthere, but I picked up a card
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and, like the hotel's manager'sname was Abby Cunningham.
I got so excited.
The kid had no idea what I wastalking about.
I guess we have to start withthe beginning.
Methanol Methanol is supposed tobe this great new alternative
energy that could change the waythe world runs.
This adorable guy from NorthMexico had an old bootleg
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distillery and he decided tomake.
Turn lemons into lemonade, ifyou will.
Turn booze into cruise fuel.
Turn a little wheat intomethanane, methanol, whatever.
I learned this episode?
That it is not drinkable, whichis completely devastating.
If all this doesn't work out,you're going to have maybe they
could distill it a couple moretimes and call it put some hair
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on your chest or something likethat.
But here's the deal.
Not only is this technology oldand new, the way to produce it
is old, the use is new, whichmakes people a little bit
hesitant.
But unfortunately there's thisantiquated law on the books.
We discover this when Richardis over at the house.
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He's talking to Abby and Gary,while Val is chilling upstairs
in her Laura Ingalls Wilder robe.
God, the robes on the show suck.
Anyway, richard was like listen,there's all sorts of
prohibition laws that make itreally illegal to bring liquor
across the border.
To those of us who are, I thinkmillennials were probably the
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last people who got to do thisfreely.
If you live on one of theborder states and I do mean in
the US, california, new Mexico,in the US California, new Mexico
, arizona or Texas then you knowit was a rite of passage to go
to Mexico on your 18th birthdayto drink.
Not saying everybody did it,but it was very, very common for
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people to drive down on theweekend and have a good time.
Where I lived, they would go toOJ and have a good old time and
then come back Like people usedto do it all the time.
Matter of fact, I think I'vesaid this before on the show
people would cross the borderall the time like back and forth
.
People would go shopping forsturdy furniture, just different
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things like that.
Probably we're the lastgeneration who got to do that.
Things started getting a littlefunny in the you know, the mid
2000s, 2010.
So it's not nearly as friendlyI would imagine.
If you live, maybe, in Canadaand you or Detroit, you know
what I mean.
There's border states, bordercountries there's it's not
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always what you see on the news.
A lot of time it's prettyfriendly.
You just kind of walk back andforth.
Where was I going with all that?
Oh, okay, that's where I wasgoing with that.
So because of this kind ofknowledge in the back of my head
, I was very surprised to hearthat you could not cross the
border with alcohol.
But that makes a lot of senseIf you have to go through
customs.
I figured as long as it wassealed, that wouldn't be a
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problem.
But apparently in 1981 or 1982,that was still a big issue you
could not cross the border withgrain alcohol.
So Abby and Gary are completelylike flabbergasted, like how is
this?
Even who kicked Really?
Richard's like yeah, I'm sosorry, that's what it is.
Richard leaves Abby and Garystart talking ish about how
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uptight richard is since lauraleft him, like he had anything
to do with prohibition.
So they quickly deduce thatthey have to get to the state
capitol, which in this casewould be sacramento, and they
need to bring this um.
Hold on, let me get my lifetogether.
Oh, my american government is alittle bit rusty.
But they need to get to theHouse, they need to get to the
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Capitol so that they can talk tosomeone, talk to a congressman
to get this bill put before theHouse.
Basically, they need a bill.
It's not an addendum, what wasthat called?
They need to basically havethis bill removed or they need
to add another bill that vetoesthis old bill.
You know what I'm saying?
I forget all that works.
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So remember, I told you Valeneis upstairs looking like Laura
Ingalls.
Well, she comes downstairs, Iguess after she doesn't hear
Richard's voice because I knowshe is Lily Mae's child, so I
know she was here hustling atthe top of the steps.
Well, she comes down when it'sjust Abby and Gary and she
happens to see Abby's hand onhis face.
I'm going to be playing devil'sadvocate this entire episode
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because I really do think inthat moment it was kind of
innocent.
She was I hate to use the wordsoothing Gary, but she was like
hey, don't worry about it.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, Ineed to make a brief correction.
Val's robe isn't hideous, itisn't horrible.
It isn't terrible, it justisn't very glamorous.
Had I had nothing else tocompare it to, I would have
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thought it was pretty cute.
It's not bad.
More importantly, she ain'thaving it.
So anyway.
Anyway, she comes down thestairs.
So Gary's a little discouragedto find out that there's this
sort of random but huge obstaclein the way of his dream.
He tells Abby okay, find outwho the chairman is of the
committee, who's in charge ofbringing bills before the house,
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and we'll figure out how totalk to him.
And Abby just kind of has herhand on his cheek the way you
would like your nephew.
It's not really sensual in thatway.
It seems very innocent.
But if you already don't likesomebody, you don't like
somebody.
So when Valene comes down thestairs she sees Abby's palm on
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Gary's chin and Abby looks upreal happy oh hi, val Val don't
say nothing.
And Abby looks up real happy.
Oh hi, val Val don't saynothing.
She can't stand this woman.
And okay, so now we have theVidalia Onion Queen is turning
up the heat just a little bit,okay.
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So there was a series ofnon-Google-able research moments
.
Abby pretty much figures outthat the Senator Senator Riker,
what a coincidence is about tobe heading out of town.
I guess she just made a phonecall.
I just made that way morecomplicated than it needs to be.
I was like, oh my gosh, how didshe get his personal schedule?
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She probably called and talkedto his secretary so they figure
out that he is about to go on atrip and if he goes on this trip
he will not be able to presentthis bill to the committee in
front of the house and get itvetoed.
Like they're pretty confidentthat no one cares about corn
liquor from Mexico.
Like, no harm, no foul,everybody's drunk anyway over
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here.
Let's just do it.
But the gotcha gotcha is he'snot in the office that day.
He's actually playing golf.
So they decide okay, well, let'sjust go to Sacramento.
It's like an hour flight.
We can be down there and backin no time.
It doesn't hurt Closed mouth,don't get fed, right?
Well?
Gary's like well, girl, well,don't, we have a full job to do.
She goes it's slow here andit's slow here.
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And she's right, in the carbusiness it's not going to be
booming every single day.
Actually, most days are prettyslow.
So he's like okay, yeah, Iguess we should.
And her thing is don't forgetthat we have money invested in
this, let's just go do this.
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Gary's acting all fidgety andweird, but the truth is he's
worried and Abby clocks it.
So Abby's like listen, is thisbecause your wife doesn't like
seeing us together.
Now here we go here.
Now that I know who she is alittle bit.
She's telling the truth, butshe's also stirring the pot.
They always say every, everygood lie has a little bit of
truth in it.
So she's like okay, gary, doyou not want to go?
Because your wife is going tobe upset.
And he's like it's complicated.
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She's like it's not thatcomplicated.
I have a lot of money investedinto this company too.
We have to take care ofbusiness and I'm not going to.
I mean, I don't think it's fairthat you're you won't want to
go because your wife is jealousof me.
Did anybody say she was jealous,abby?
That's not what he said.
That's not how.
I don't know how Val felt.
I don't think she's jealous,she's just suspicious.
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She has her suspicions abouty'all's interactions, plus y'all
spend a lot of time together.
I'm sure she don't really likethat.
Plus she knows a history, plusshe knows that her man has a
history.
So a lot of this sort of venomthat she's not actually spewing
and I do mean Val probably comesfrom the fact that she knows
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Gary has already stepped out.
She knows Abby has alreadystepped out.
Well, I guess Abby didn't stepout.
It's not adultery on her part,but she knows how Abby works.
I suppose if Gary will go forsomeone who is calm and very put
together, like Judy not at allas seductress then what is he
going to do with Abby?
I'm assuming this, this is meprojecting.
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Val has not actually said this,not like that at least.
So Gary goes home to say hewalks in the door and the first
thing he says is hey, we got togo to Sacramento.
And she's like, oh my God, I'mnot packed, like what are we
going for?
He says, hey, we got to go toSacramento.
She's like, oh my God, I'm notpacked.
What are we going for?
He goes, no, not not you and me, me and Abby, we got to go.
I'm kind of on the fence.
He walks in and like he's toldAbby he already knows that this
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is sort of a tense situation,but here's the truth, here's the
tea.
Here's the tea.
You can have a feeling aboutsomething with no proof.
We call it intuition.
It took me a really long timeto trust that intuition.
Val's definitely got it.
She's able to put piecestogether.
Like I said, she's going off ofGary's past.
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She sees what she sees in frontof her.
She'd be a fool not to be atleast a little bit suspicious.
So he comes in and he says thatand he's already pissed, as he's
saying it because he quoteunquote knows that she's going
to be pissed.
That's such a lose-losesituation.
I hate when people do that,like, don't give me bad news and
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not give me the opportunity toreact the way I choose to react.
If you get to react, how come Idon't get to react?
It has nothing to do with beingmature, but it's like you can't
Bogart this.
That's very manipulative, eventhough I don't think he's trying
to be manipulative here.
But he's just, he's okay, letme just.
Let me move on.
He starts in we have to go toSan Diego, we have to go to
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Sacramento.
She thinks that he means sheand him.
He tells her it's him and Abby,and then he immediately starts
getting a little bit louderbecause he can tell she's upset
and he says damn it, val.
I want you to know thisbusiness isn't just a nine to
five.
We're going to have to worktogether.
We're going to have to do thesethings.
I know you don't trust me.
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Now here's the other thing whenVal has intuition.
I think Gary is dealing with alittle bit of guilt because he
is lying by omission.
He has not told her about thekiss.
I've had a little time betweenthe kiss and now.
I am not defending it, but Iwill say I'm not granting you a
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lot of grace, but I canunderstand you getting caught up
in the moment.
I can, ok, we can, we canaccount for being excited.
But he is walking around withthe full knowledge that you know
he had a moment of passion.
He's spending a lot of timearound this person.
I still like I'm I'm standingby that.
He's not really given that Iwant her vibe, but I think that
he thinks Val might know alittle bit more than she's
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letting on.
So this conversation is really,really tense.
He's like I have to work, Ineed to go, why don't you just
come with us?
She then bows like see now.
So now you're going to have melooking like the jealous old
wife who won't let her husbanddo anything.
He doesn't know the jealous oldwife who won't let her husband
do anything.
He tells her no, just come,learn about my business, be
involved.
I want you there, I want you tocome.
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I'm kind of on his side rightnow.
Just y'all better enjoy itCause the way.
Okay, enjoy it for about 35seconds so I'll tell you about
the look on his face.
I think that's kind of a greatthing.
That's actually a pretty goodcompromise.
Come learn Then I.
He also said that he felt guilty.
He's kind of a great thing.
That's actually a pretty goodcompromise.
Come learn then I.
He also said that he felt guilty.
He's tired of feeling guilty.
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I think that's kind of a doublemeaning.
You're tired of feeling guiltybecause you're not being you did
not honest about at least thatkiss.
Or you feel guilty too becauseyou're working so many hours.
It's taking a lot from he andBelle and also he's working
withby so much.
It's not a lose-lose situation,but god dang it if this man
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don't stop.
Just he makes god.
You know, when you go to thedentist you have a little work
done and you can't quite fillyour face.
He, he moves his face so muchhe wiggles.
He wiggles his face the waylance bass wiggles his eyebrows,
and it drives me crazy.
No shade to Lance.
You know he's in sync.
I love you forever.
However, just damn Eyebrows bejust double dutching.
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It drives me crazy.
And this kid's face is the samething.
Like damn, gary.
Okay, jackalford, we knowyou're acting.
Damn.
Where was I?
They get on the first thingsmoking and they go to
Sacramento and these people pullup on this Senator on the golf
cart course.
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Long story short, the Senatorwas in the middle of a golf game
.
He didn't really want to talkabout this during his golf game,
but you know, three heads arebetter than one.
They managed to convince himmostly Abby that hey, we're not
going to bother you, we're notgoing to interrupt your game,
but there's this littleoversight on the state law books
about prohibition.
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We think it's time to maybe cutthat.
Do you think you can get thatdone?
We will only talk to youbetween holes.
I do not know enough about golfto tell you what that means.
But in between those, whileyou're chilling, we'll just talk
to you about it.
And from what I know about golf, golf takes a really long time
to play.
So, yeah, not a bad idea.
Well, gary and Valene, all butgive up, because the Senator's
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like you know what.
Dude, I totally understand whatyou're saying.
I sure would hate for you guysto lose any money with your new
business endeavors and whatnot.
But I just don't think I can dothis and plus I'm going out of
town tomorrow.
So I'm really sorry.
Let's just you know, maybewe'll we'll talk about it.
I'm not saying no, I'm justsaying no like no today.
So Val and Gary are like dang,I guess we're going to go back
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home.
And Abby says well, y'all goahead and go.
I have some friends, a coupleup here that I know I'm just
going to hang out with themtonight.
Maybe they have a few stringsthey can pull.
Let me, let me continue to work.
Y'all go ahead and go home andbe happy.
She's got her mind on her money,her money on her mind.
So she goes and she puts on herfinest golden girl dress and
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she shows up at the senator'soffice under the cloak of
darkness.
Now, why he would be at hisoffice this late, I'm sure I
don't know, but he is, and I'mglad he is because she has the
opportunity to walk in and struther stuff.
So here's another side of Abbythat I'm discovering.
First of all, she does herhomework.
Actually, I'm not surprised bythat, because she was all in
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those books on the whole ghostepisode she prepares.
So she did her studying, shedid her research and she's able
to kind of schmooze the Senator.
Senator, I know who you are andI'm an admirer of your work.
I've seen the bills you'vepassed, I've seen the causes
you've taken up and I thinkpartnering with you would be
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perfection.
We are trying to bring a newsustainable fuel option to the
United States of America.
Think what you could do, notonly for me, not only for my
partner and his business, butfor this country.
We could change it.
Like she sells it, I'm likedamn, I'm tempted to go out here
and pour a little booze in mygas tank.
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Only we all know that didn'twork out.
So the senator is absorbing whatshe's saying and you know what
she's hitting all the rightnotes.
My ego is struck.
I'm not really inconvenienced.
She's making a lot of sense.
What if I brought a new source,a new sustainable source of
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energy, to the United States?
What could that do for me?
This is me riffing here, guys.
What could this do for mypolitical career?
All I hear is wins.
All I do is win.
What did you say?
Your name was young lady.
My name is Abby Cunningham.
Would you like to go to dinnerwith me tonight?
We can discuss it over dinner.
Here's a thing I say this everytime I watch this show this is
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what knots landing does best.
Now we can deduce fromeverything you know about abby
from season two to now where doyou think they went to dinner?
Do you think it extended pastdinner?
Or can we accept that maybe sheis not only?
She's got more than boobs,she's boobs and brain, and not
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for nothing.
She reads people like a book.
It is, it's perfection.
She understands what humanswant and what they need.
So the next time we see Gary, heis giving a just country
bumpkin, whooping, holler, whoo,I'm not even gonna do it in
this house.
He hollers, he is right,excited, as they say Val's like
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what, you, what, what happened,what happened?
And he says Abby got thesenator to basically go along
with us.
He's gonna present the billtonight.
Blah, blahah, blah, blah.
It's probably going to pass.
Blah, blah, blah.
Val is excited.
Oh my God, that's so awesome.
They're celebrating in thekitchen.
I think this is where she'swearing that raggedy robe.
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It's not raggedy, it's just notDynasty.
It's not Val and Chris.
So, in the midst of all thiscelebrating Val, writing Val is,
you know, asking the standardquestions.
Oh my gosh, I can't believe shegot it done.
Way to go, abby.
Was she still in Sacramento?
And Gary says no, she's backhome, it's morning.
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Val's like she's already backhome.
Yeah, gary, he don't care.
All he heard is that we aboutto make this money.
So he's not, he don't carewhere she's at, he don't care
how she got home, but all Val ishearing like, wait a minute,
she must, okay, she must haveworked all night.
Is that what you're saying?
And he goes.
Maybe, I guess, I don't know.
Money, money, money, money,money.
So Valene starts to thinking,the onion rings start to
steaming and she deduces okay, Ican't just sit here, I got to
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get up and go say something.
This is where, for the firsttime, I find myself sort of
challenging her logic just alittle bit.
But there you go Intuition.
You don't have to know why, youknow.
Sometimes, you just know somestuff.
Also, just like two things canbe true at the same time, you
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can be right about something inthe wrong moment, meaning, let's
say, you have a sticky fingerfriend or Uncle Klepto.
Every time he comes to yourhouse, something's missing.
You've never seen him take it.
But two plus two is four.
Unless he's around, then itgets stolen.
One time you run up on him whenhe's padding his back pocket,
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after, I don't know, one of yourGlade plugins goes missing.
You're like hey, uncle Klepto,empty your pockets.
Sure enough, he empties hispockets and his pockets are
empty.
Okay, you was wrong, but tellme why?
He gets in the car and heremoves your necklace from his
(48:58):
neck.
It's kind of one of thosesituations Like okay, I just
haven't caught you, but I know,like I know, like I know,
something is going on.
Enter the best scene of thisepisode Vidalia, the onion queen
, feels a way.
She walks I don't know ahundred yards, a hundred feet to
(49:23):
Abby's house and knocks on thedoor.
Abby's like hey, girl, abby'swearing a hideous robe.
That's what I kept thinkingabout.
Abby has on the plainest redrobe ever.
It's almost an insult to her,but I guess she needs to be
demure this episode.
She's like hey, val, what'sgoing on, girl?
I love this scene.
I love this scene.
I love this scene.
(49:46):
So Val comes in.
She's obviously been ponderingwhat's going on.
She decided she's going to havea little newbie, and not this
morning.
Instead forgive me if you canhear the thunder instead of a
little ponytail.
She says Abby, I got to ask yousomething.
Did you convince the senator tochange his mind or did your
friends?
Now Abby still has a smile onher face and she's like well,
(50:07):
she's kind of surprised.
I'm also surprised that Valwould approach her in this way.
Anytime you've seen Val approachsomebody, it hasn't been based
on an inkling, it hasn't beenbased on her opinion.
She's like the feds.
She's showing up with the facts.
Not this time.
She's going straight from theheart.
Was it you or was it yourfriends?
(50:29):
Abby and abby's like excuse me,then, val, that was another
hook.
I just wasn't.
I wasn't expecting her to sayshe goes, if it was you, you
shouldn't be ashamed of it,implying that this, this is
another one of those doublemeanings.
If I'm understanding thiscorrectly, if you did sleep with
(50:50):
the Senator to get this billpassed and you're okay doing
that, you shouldn't be ashamed.
Or if you did that and you hadto do it, then you shouldn't be
ashamed.
Or if you just convinced him,you shouldn't be ashamed.
It's a challenge.
It's not a statement, it is achallenge.
This is the moment Mark, thisdate, this time On episode three
(51:16):
, excuse me, season three,episode 17,.
Excuse me, season three, episode17,.
Letting Go was the day that JetShae realized Abby is not one
to play with.
I've had suspicions, myintuition told me that, but this
(51:39):
is one of the best scenes Girl,guys, fellas and ladies.
Baby, she's something else.
In the same breath, valene, theVidalia Onion Queen, might have
grown some thorns or somethickles or something.
I don't know.
What's going on with her today.
She's not one to play with.
She says Abby, if you did, youshouldn't be ashamed and you
(52:01):
should tell Gary so that you getcredit for this bill passing.
Abby kind of scoffs and she'slike girl.
You know Gary wouldn'tunderstand.
The law is going to be repealed, val, that's all that matters.
So in my judgment, in my kindof understanding of this scene,
it's like Val.
That was my biggest question.
I've been pondering this for alittle bit.
Why does Val insist that Abbytell Gary about this?
(52:26):
Does she want her to admit thatmaybe she slept with the
senator to get these favors?
In my mind, val wants Gary toknow what Abby is willing to do.
It's almost like I want you toprove me right, but also I want
him to see what he's fallinginto or what he could be falling
into.
I don't know.
(52:46):
I don't know if this is reallyfor her or if it's really for
Gary, because at the end of theday, we all know she's calling
her bluff.
Val is calling Abby's bluff.
She knows she's not going totell.
And, let's be honest, abby'scalling Val's bluff.
She knows that Val don't wanther to tell.
And, let's be honest, abby'scalling Val's bluff.
She knows that Val don't wanther to tell him.
She knows this.
So Val's like that's all thatcounts.
(53:07):
Huh, that's all you worriedabout.
Abby said listen, valina,there's things called resources.
You use them.
People use what they have.
Some people have a lot of money.
They use that to get what theywant.
Some people have a lot of power.
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They use that to get what theywant.
Some people have a lot of power.
They use that to get what theywant.
You have to be smart.
I am paraphrasing here.
You have to be wise.
You have to use what you haveand the resources available to
you to get what you want.
Basically, she's saying besmart, use what you got to get
what you want.
Use things to get what you want.
You let that sit with you andVal's like well, what about
(53:50):
what's right and what's wrong.
Now see, that's what I'm like,val.
You're contradicting yourself.
What are you implying here?
We all know what this is.
This is it.
This is the moment I'm callingit now.
This is at least for me.
I don't know about anybody else.
I envy you OGs who know what'son the other side of this, but
also I would never tell somebodyto envy me.
(54:11):
I God, this is amazing.
I'm so, so, so, so glad I'mgetting to see this.
Val tells her you know what doyou?
What about right and wrong?
Abby says worry about right andwrong when you're fed.
Basically, take care ofyourself first.
When you know where your nextmeal's coming from, then you can
worry about good and evil,right and wrong.
(54:31):
I believe millennials Aladdintold us the exact same thing.
Did he or did he not?
Was he a street rat or was hejust hungry?
Did he or did he not usescheming and scamming and a
genie to get what he wanted?
I'm just saying this pisses Valoff.
She's like girl.
First off, don't talk aboutbeing hungry.
You rich biatch, are you forreal right now?
(54:54):
That's how you really feel,abby?
Abby calls her blood.
What do you think, val?
Oh, I love this.
This is like 20 seconds.
I have stretched it out to twominutes, but it's like a 20
second scene.
What do you think Val?
Val says I think I need to keepboth eyes on you.
I think I'm going to bewatching you.
I'll be watching you like ahawk in the sky.
(55:16):
Now, I suppose in some circles,especially in the South, that
might be an insult, but, as wediscovered several episodes ago,
abby is unfaithful.
She's not bothered by youropinion and she says you know
what, val, you do that.
Keep a good eye on me, baby.
How else you gonna learn?
Oh, she said watch and learn.
(55:39):
Vidalia, lord, have mercy.
Is this a line in the sand?
Abby, is it just?
I am blown away by her kind ofI don't want to say it's a lack
of a conscience, but sort ofshe's not bothered.
She is truly unbothered bypeople.
(55:59):
Tell them, val is basicallywhat she's saying.
Tell them you want me to tellhim, you really want me to tell
him.
This is an interesting playbecause, at the end of the day,
gary is still growing.
I forget that he is coming offof this.
I'm not the good enough son.
I'm not a real Ewing.
He's not that he really caredabout being a Ewing, but you
know what I mean.
They're known for theirbusiness acumen.
(56:20):
And him not only.
You know he's not in themafioso.
This time he's found somethingbrand new.
It's energy-based, it'sbeautiful.
There's got to be a small partof him that wants to make sure.
Not only he wants it to succeedbecause it's exciting and it's
business.
But this could changeeverything for him, maybe, maybe
(56:41):
.
I love the fangs that came out.
I love this.
So there was no admission fromGabby.
She's like okay, you think whatyou think, but I'm going to
tell you something Use yourresources wisely to get what you
want.
My, oh, my Baby.
(57:03):
That was delightful.
I think I'm going to pourmyself a little more bubbly.
It's sparkling water.
I might go Google and see whatMartha talking about as far as
cocktails, but oh my gosh.
So so, so good.
Go ahead and join me next timeas we jump back into another
(57:23):
classic, vintage primetime soapopera.
In the meantime, in betweentime, there's no other way to
say it Use what you got to getwhat you want.
But don't be surprised if yourun up on the Vidalia Onion
Queen and wake up dead messingwith her.
Stay hydrated, stay moisturized, mind your own business and
keep all of your drama on TV.
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