S5 EP1 Dallas : The Missing Heir - The "Splish, Splash, Days Of Wrath "Episode

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Bright lights, sirens, and a glassy pool set the stage for a season opener that wastes no time: Kristen’s body is found at Southfork, and the blame ricochets between JR and Cliff before the sun is up. I take you through the minute-by-minute chaos—the broken balcony, the bourbon, the finger-pointing—then pull the camera back to the moves that matter: strategy, custody, and reputation. We travel from Dallas to Abilene and onward to Southern Cross, where Sue Ellen plants her flag and draws a bold boundary around John Ross. The showdown on that sweeping, terracotta-topped ranch reframes the fight: this isn’t only about love or law, it’s about who gets to define “fit,” “safe,” and “home.” JR counters with a hard-nosed attorney and a character case; Sue Ellen counters with presence, purpose, and a new kind of power. Meanwhile, the DA revives a buried truth—Kristen’s past confession to shooting JR—that stains every alibi and turns motive into a mirror. Along the edges, the episode digs into money and identity. Lucy and Mitch wrestle with class and pride, proving that affection can buckle under lifestyle. Donna and Ray spar over a $3 million decision and what “our money” actually means, testing trust without throwing love away. I also weave in choice behind-the-scenes lore—Dynasty’s ratings ascendancy, network nights, and the surprising early-life connections among TV icons—that enrich how we read the stakes on screen .By the final beat, Dallas feels both bigger and tighter: a murder mystery, a custody conflict with teeth, and a family machine humming without two of its most familiar gears. If you love high-stakes melodrama with brains, you’ll find plenty to savor here—glamour, grit, and just enough scandal to argue about all week. Hit play, subscribe for the next pull from the bag, and tell me: whose case are you buying—JR’s leverage or Sue Ellen’s line in the sand?

Episode Transcript

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Hello, Gorgos.
Welcome and welcome back toanother fun filled edition of

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Soapboard.
I say that with my whole testbecause I am beyond excited.
We've made it through seasonsone, two, and three of Knotts
Landing, Dallas Dynasty, andFalcon Crest, and four of the
last three I just mentioned.
We are embarking on a brand newseason, a fresh start, if you
will, for primetime soap operay.

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Vintage Primetime Soap Opery, Iguess I should say.
What's up, everybody?
I hope your day is shaping upwell.
Mine is, as you can tell, I'mexcited.
I'm actually elated.
I've waited long enough.
I could not wait to press play.
And y'all got me hype.
We got some interesting tidbitsin the fan mail.
Go ahead and pour yourself upsomething bubbly and bright.

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I'm working on this last littlebit of my non-alcoholic
beverages.
I tell you what, it really beyour own people.
I don't know who's sipping on mynon-alcoholic.
I know exactly who's sipping onmy non-alcoholic.
I'm down to the last couplegulps, but that's okay.
I got a fresh bottle in thefridge, and I get the feeling
it's gonna be an interestingday.
So go ahead, grab yourselfsomething, bubbly and bright,

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and we're gonna find out whatI'm watching today.
I really have no idea.
I put all the names in a littlebag.
I'm gonna pull them out andwe're gonna decide together what
to watch.
Okay.
Pardon the noise.
I had to improvise.
I have a bag of gummy bearssomeone had open and didn't

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throw away.
No biggie.
I have all four shows in here.
Let's see what we get.
Alright.
Looks like we got Dallas comingup first.
I'm not even tripping.
I'm actually really excited I'mexcited.
It didn't really matter whichone they said at this point.
At the end of season four forDynasty Dallas and Falcon Crest.

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Falcon Crest had blued up two ofthe main characters.
I gotta see if they're in bitsand pieces or if they magically
escaped.
I actually I can't wait tofigure out.
I can't wait to hear how they door don't escape that.
Dynasty, we have my girl lockedup in jail and her fine duels
and her couture gown.
I know Dex Dexter is not gonnaleave her in jail too long, but

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we gotta figure out whathappened to Fallon.
That is the weirdest thing everto have a headache only induced
by bridal wear and the marriageof a man you can't really stand.
It's crazy that it would giveyou a migraine so terrifying
that you would have to fleeunder the cloak of darkness and

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sheaths of rain in a getaway carblindly in the dark.
That's okay.
I would love to see how thatthat made it past a writing
table, but we're here for it.
And of course, Dallas gotsomebody in the pool floating
face down.
I've watched enough CSI to knowthat it probably isn't a great

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idea to jump into the pool andtouch the body because now his
fingers well, I guess hisfingerprints wouldn't.
You know what?
We're gonna find out together.
I want to thank you guys foryour incredible support, your
wisdom, your opinions, yourgenerosity with sharing these
shows that you love has been soenjoyable for me.
And I'm so glad you're on thisride.
I'm just pumped.

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I'm on season five.
Season five and four of KnottsLanding, which of course ended
with my girl Valen fleeing thescene of a terrible marriage.
Ooh, yeah.
Like I said, it didn't reallymatter which one I picked, I'm
pumped for all of them.
And I think I'm gonna go aheadand try to watch them all.
But before we get into all ofthat, I want to read some of the

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fan mail slash tea that you guyshave supplied me with.
And don't worry, if you don'thear yours, I promise I'll get
to it.
This just sort of fits today.
Actually, hold on, I'm gettingconfused here.
Yeah, this happens to fit forDallas, so I think it was meant
to be.
Plus, I have a movie on deckthat I'm gonna watch at some

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point today, I think.
Says it leaves prime in 16 days,so you don't have much time to
watch it, but we'll get to that.
Okay, one of my YouTube friendssays season five of Dynasty will
be the number one TV show of the1984-1985 season.
That season for Dynasty will beunique in quotation marks.

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First of all, I cannot tell youhow okay the word excited will
be used 400 times this episode.
If you're playing a drinkinggame, do not use the word
excited, you will be schnockeredin the next 20 minutes.
But based on season four ofDynasty, I am not surprised.
I'm not surprised in the leastthat it would be well, let me be

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clear.
I'm not surprised that it's aunique season.
I'll say that.
I'm not surprised that it'sgoing to be unique.
Am I surprised that it's numberone?
Not really.
I could really see there beingthis sort of push and pull
between Dynasty and Dallas a lotof the times, especially if they
are not necessarily neck andneck, but Dallas would have
already been a Titan by thispoint.

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Dynasty's got its C legs now,they know what they're doing.
I could I could 100% see that orNot S Landing sort of going head
to head.
Not that I don't think FalconCrest could hang with them
because they definitely can't.
I just don't know if they havethe same fan base.
Plus, I think if I rememberlooking this up correctly,
Dynasty was on ABC while theothers were on, was it on CBS?

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It has to be right.
CBS.
I remember thinking none ofthese shows were on NBC, and I
was kind of surprised by that.
Yeah.
At some point I looked it up,and it says that Friday nights
were Dallas, Falcon Crest,Knott's Landing, all on CBS.
Which seems weird to me becausethat means Dallas would come on
at 7, Falcon Crust at 8, andthen Knott's Landing at 9.

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I guess that's not weird becausethe 10 o'clock news comes on.
And then it says Dynasty airedon Wednesdays on ABC.
So in my mind, they were alwayssort of pitting against each
other, but more in my head, it'sDallas and Dynasty.
Not to say the other onescouldn't hang, but it was
probably just them.
Thank you.

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Kip goes on to say for Knott'sLanding, the first era that's in
quotations.
Season one and three is gone.
Season four is going to start anew era for Knott's Landing.
On Knott's Landing, Diana isgonna have a much bigger part.
I can't wait to find out yourreaction to her.
Pay attention to Richard andLaura's marriage.
I ain't gonna lie, that hurt myfeelings a little bit.

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I I'm I am disappointed.
Damn it.
Last episode of Knott's Landing,I kid you not, I don't even know
if I said this on the podcast,but there was a moment when she
was telling her mom that she'sI'm 18 and you treat me like a
baby.

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She's screaming at her, mindyou, looking absolutely out of
her mind.
And I remember rejoicing that,oh good, she's 18.
I mean she's about to go tocollege.
And I'm hoping we keep talkingabout New York.
She's got the fashion designerfriend, remember in New York?
That other dude that thought hewas her daddy.
I I believe he went back to NewYork.
Joe's old girlfriend is NewYork.

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Why is she not going to NYU?
I am I was just I was so sure.
I sure hate to hear that.
Dang it.
More Diana?
Bigger Diana?
Oh.
No, listen, I know those are therules of engagement and a soap
opera.
Children are currency.

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The benefit of having a child isthat they can disappear for a
little bit and come back 17years older, and we're gonna all
pretend like that's normal.
I'll endure.
Damn.
That hurts my villains.
I just knew she was out of here.
I was like, please send her toNew York or go overseas or
something.
She seems to be in demand.

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Adults seem to like Diana.
Damn it.
She better not ruin the seasonfor me.
A little bit more.
It says the latter part of thisseason will be a full soap.
More 80s.
Knott's Landing is going to bebetter this next season.
You may be surprised.
Take care.
Nice review.
Thank you so much, Kip.
Yeah, I've heard it's gonna begood.
I believe it.
I have absolutely no reason notto believe that, but you bring

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up an interesting point about itbeing very 80s.
On the last episode, I told youI was going back to watch a
little bit of Knotts Landing.
Well, I went back and watched alittle bit of all the shows.
I watched part of season one ofDynasty and had a really good
time.
It's actually 10 times funnierknowing who these characters
are, like the Carringtons later.
I fully enjoyed that.

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I enjoyed that Lankersham guy.
I didn't think I would miss himas much as I do.
But I only watched a little bitmore of season three of Non
Slanding, but I happened to fawnseason two of Falcon Crest.
And one of the first things Ithought as soon as I turned it
on was that it was so I waslike, God, this looks really,
really old.
Considering where I'm at now, Ithink they're in 1986, 1985,

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1986.
Falcon Crest has always been alittle more 80s looking to me.
It definitely fits the mold ofwhat I think the 80s is and was.
But none of the other shows do.
It's visually for me.
I can't really give an opinionabout the storylines, what that
means in the 80s, not really.
But visually, season two ofFalcon Crest looked so much
older.

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It looked like it was 10 yearsolder than where I am now in
1986.
None of the other soap operasreally gave me that.
If I'm being honest, Dallas andNot's landing, more so Dallas,
still gives me late 70s residue,but they are turning it up a
little bit more.
Pam's Rick James hair.

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She's been wearing someinteresting patterns, like the
Save by the Bell.
I don't even know what you callthose with all the different
squiggles, and it's not reallygeometric, is it?
Let's call it geometric.
80s geometric patterns.
It's been a little bit more 80s,but they still have that soft,
fluffy 70s hair.
So that's interesting that yousaid it'll be more 80s.
I don't know if you meanstoryline-wise or visually.

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So I'm excited to see.
Okay.
My friend from Overgone has sometea.
This is this has been the mostinteresting thing to me.
Okay, so listen to this.
Long before they became J.R.
Ewing and Alexis Kobe, LarryHagman and Joan Collins dated.
That's not even the best part.
They dated briefly in the 1940s.

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Hold that in your mind for asecond.
Also, before they score theiriconic roles as resident baddies
on Dallas and Dynasty, they werecast as husband and wife in the
1970 film Up in the Cellar.
So I just checked.
Up in the Cellar is on Amazon.
Like I said, at the time of thisrecording, it's a 16 days.
It's only going to be on therefor 16 days.

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So I have that in my queue firedup.
I might need to go ahead andpurchase it.
I bet it's like$1.99 just incase I don't get to it.
But I could not pass up theopportunity to see Alexis Colby
and J.R.
Ewing as husband and wife.
I'm really pumped.
Also, I read the synopsis of thefilm.
It seems pretty funny.
Up in the cellar threw me offbecause I thought sellers were

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underground.
That's neither here nor there.
Okay, so before Abby and J.R.
hooked up on Knott's Landing,Donna Mills and Larry Hagman
starred as a married couple onthe 1971 sitcom The Good Life.
That sits weird to me too, eventhough you guys have broken down
to me how old she was, DonnaMills, when she started Knott's
Landing.
I don't know why that feelsweird to me that in 1971 she was

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on a show with him.
I'm not surprised he was on TVbecause I've seen him in
Bewitched.
So I'm fully, you know, I knewhe had been around for a little
bit.
Let me go ahead and finish this.
Now, Oregon, I did kind of knowabout the the origins.
You're giving me a slightlydifferent take.
He says Dallas Dallas creatorDavid Jacobs originally went to
the network pitching Knott'sLanding.
However, the network wantedsomething richer that was more

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like a saga, so he conceivedDallas.
After the Ewings became asuccess, the network then became
interested in Knott's Landingwith the suggestion of making it
a spin-off of Dallas.
Jim Davis, Jock, and VictoriaPrincipal, Pam, had a close
relationship due to principalresembling Davis' deceased
daughter, Tara Diane, who waskilled in a car accident at age

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17.
That is so sad.
So, okay, the the T I had heard,and this isn't very different,
is that by Dahlia and Gary, realnames escape me at the second,
they were wanting to be on thisshow called Um Scenes from a
Marriage.
I heard that Knott's Landing wasbased on Scenes of a Marriage,
and that it was actuallyconceived first and then Dallas

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happened.
So what you're saying is thatyeah, it's you're saying the
same thing.
They wanted Knott's Landing, butthey needed something richer,
probably a little more soapy,something like a saga, Dallas
came to pass, and then okay, andthen they did the spin-off.
Okay, that's not very different.
I guess I just didn't realizethat they the network was like,

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hey, this is cute or whatever,but we need something a little
more dramatic, and that Dallas,Dallas as a saga, makes a whole
lot more sense.
I guess that's a point I'mtrying to make.
When I think of Dallas in thesame vein as you think of the
movie like Giant or LonesomeDove, even though there's not as
much action, it definitely feelslike it could have been a saga.

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That's a very, very good way ofputting it.
Okay, oh that's that's reallysweet.
We'll get into this net thisepisode.
The loss of Jim Davis, man.
So she was very close to him.
That's sweet.
Oh, that's very sad.
Very sad.
Okay, so Steve, I'm gonna missI'm gonna mispronounce his name.
This is Ray.
Steve, is it Connolly?

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Cannelly?
Canalee?
I don't know where the emphasisgoes.
AKA Ray almost left the show dueto his character's lack of
development.
It was Larry Hagman who came upwith the idea to make Ray the
illegitimate son of Jock inorder to get Ray or Canale,
Canale, Canala, whatever, tostay.
Good on him.
Yeah, he he doesn't really saymuch.

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He just sort of yuck yuck.
I like dirt and oh shucks, Jock.
I just want he don't want to donothing but chase turds and cows
and stuff.
Not that there's anything wrongwith that.
As a matter of fact, when youthink about Ray in the context
of this show and all the familydrama that happens around him,
I'd want to hang out at theranch too.
I don't want to be in y'all'sbusiness.
You people are psycho.

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This is how y'all do each other.
This is how the people who wereraised together do each other.
What do I look like being foldedinto that?
I'm with Ray.
Want y'all's mess.
You got a sister-in-law shootingpiece.
You know, absolutely not.
I wouldn't try to, I wouldn'twant to be a Ewing either.
This is funny though.
So the actor who played Ray waslike, uh, I'm I'm not really

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developing here.
This is kind of boring.
The funny thing is, it says KenKershival.
Kershavel, again, forgive me forthe pronunciation.
Ken Kershaval, aka Cliff,originally wanted to play the
part of Ray Krebs because he wastired of playing characters who
wore suits.

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Is that not so millennial coded?
He wanted to wear denim to work.
You know what?
That is a fantastic point.
I obviously I think aboutwardrobe on TV and on movies and
stuff.
And most of the time it's likeit's for fashion.
I don't really think of it asbeing functional, but I would

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be, yeah, you'd probably want tobe really comfortable.
I didn't think about the menhaving to wear suits all the
time.
I just think that's so funny tothink his um preference for that
role came down to whether or nothe was wearing denim.
Like, I'd rather be in denimthan a tie.
That's hilarious.
Okay, last little bit.

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Barbara Belgadis was only nineyears older than Larry Hagman.
Hagman was 18 years older thanPatrick Duffy, who played his
younger brother, though weassume them to only be a few
years apart in age.
You were a hundred percentcorrect.
You see, you gotta remember Iwas introduced to Patrick Duffy

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as Uncle Frank.
And he's married to SuzanneSummers on Step by Step.
Seeing him younger to me, justhe just looked younger.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't actually put an age onit, I just knew he wasn't Uncle
Frank on Dallas.
But I would have never, ever inmy life guessed that they were
18 years apart.
Even more, I would have neverguessed that Barbara Belgattos
was only nine years older thanhim.

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That man looks amazing.
The fact that he and JoanCollins, aka Alexis Colby, dated
in the 40s blew my mind.
There's no way on earth Ipictured him as an adult man in
the 40s.
I guess that's what's giving methe most.
I'm shook.
I didn't think he was that old.

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That's crazy.
He has some fantastic jeans.
I didn't even bother to look uphow old they are.
Because I know that Joan Collinsis 90.
That's wild.
I can't have pictures, I can'tpicture him in the 40s.
I need a little more tea withthat.
I really need to figure out howthat went about.
Okay, it says okay, he was bornSeptember 21st, 1931, in Fort

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Worth, Texas.
Makes a lot of sense.
So he could have, I mean, hewould have been young, so they
probably would have been 18, 19.
That makes a lot of sense.
Well, hold on, because 1941, hewould have yeah, okay, he could
have absolutely dated someone.
He would have been 18 by thetime the 40s ended.
So that makes sense.
They were teenagers.
Okay, I can deal with that.

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For some reason, I was picturinghim as like a 30-year-old man.
I cannot believe he and BarbaraBelgattis are that close in age.
That's crazy to me.
Alright, guys.
Well, let's jump into thisepisode.
I hadn't even bothered to pullit up.
I did pull out the other filmthat I will watch afterwards.
Let's jump into season five,episode one of Dallas, whose

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name I don't even know yet.
This will be one of my just sortof I'm gonna react in real time
type episodes.
I'm sorry if that drives youcrazy.
I will try my best to do it in15-minute increments.
I don't have much faith inmyself as I say that, but you
know what, it doesn't matter.

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It's all gonna be edited in orout, doesn't really matter
either way.
Called Missing Air.
Quick little aside, I'm mindingmy business watching the John
Candy documentary.
I guess I, you know, waspiddling around or something.
I come back into my bedroom,tell me why.
There's this whole, I don't knowif it's I love the 80s or
whatever.
They're talking about Dalits.

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I felt like Amazon is trying toruin my life.
I had to run out of the room,yo, turn it off, turn it off.
Trying to play me.
I've made it this far withoutany spoilers.
I'll be damned if I get any now.
Let's go ahead and jump intothis episode.
Missing air.
I made it a whole two minutesand 30 seconds.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on,hold on, hold up.
Immediately, soap tax, soap tax,soap tax.

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So the show opens up.
It's still night, it's the samenight that the body of the pool,
the pool body is in the pool.
Whatever I'm trying to say, youknow what I'm saying?
The place is crawling with cops.
I mean, you see red flashinglights everywhere.
You see the ambulance go downthe long driveway, get on the
main road.
I guess they're heading toDallas.
Now the ambulance sirens are on,which is probably not very

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accurate, but we're gonna letthat slide.
If the person is dead, like Isaid, I'm two minutes into this.
So, what we get to see that wedidn't get to see last time is
that there's obviously like thebalcony was broken.
I'm gonna rewind and go back tothe last episode because I don't
think it was actually snapped.
I don't remember seeing that,but of course, we weren't really
looking for that, right?
Last jet saw Cliff came to thehouse.

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He's walking, like going on thepatio where everybody goes to.
He looks, he sees a body in thepool, he immediately jumps in,
flips the body of the woman.
We know it's a woman, fliparound, and says, She's dead.
Well, on this episode, like Isaid, the it's crawling with
cops.
You can see that the balcony hasbeen broken.
The cop says, Cliff, tell meagain what happened.

(21:14):
He goes, Oh, okay.
Let me let me get my let me getmyself together.
I'm a little keyed up, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Um, so JR definitely killed her.
JR 100% pushed her off saidbalcony.
So we get to see the littledream like sequence where they
go woo-woo woo and it gets allmiragey looking.

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You see, Cliff run and dive intothe pool.
He flips the body over in hisbad girl, Kristen.
I call BS.
Kristen's hair is mad long.
This girl has short hair.
It's Kristen at two minutes and30 seconds.
So now I gotta go back to theprevious episode to see if that
little um if the balcony wasbroken.

(21:54):
I'm saying I didn't see that,but also I wouldn't have been
looking for that now, would I?
I'm gonna go check.
Okay, I just looked, it totallywas broken.
It wasn't when Cliff ran up, sohe called Pam's office to see if
she was there.
Her assistant says she wasn't.
He's like, Oh, okay, don't worryabout it.
If she went home, I'm gonna gosee her anyway.
I'm headed out there to talk toBobby.

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I had forgotten very quickly.
I knew Pam had taken the baby.
JR is already pissed off.
Like he's he's telling the thesheriff or whoever, highway
patrol guy, if you find her,bring her back to me.
He's already pissed.
So I'm with Cliff at thetwo-minute, 30-minute mark.
Of course he did it.
How else was she if there'snobody else home?
And as casual as JR looks, hedefinitely did it.

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Or maybe she fell.
Who knows?
Okay, I'm gonna try to refrainmyself.
Bad girl Kristen.
Now the ambulance had the sirenson.
That usually I've always beentold that means they're alive.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't really rush to thehospital if you're not.
But we're gonna find outtogether.
Her hair's way too long.
I just don't see how that couldhave been her.
I was leaning towards thesecretary a little more.
But if he was pissed off becauseCam, Cam, Cam just took his kid,

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the other baby mama showing upwould probably set him off a
little bit.
So Cliff tells that to onesheriff.
The other one, the one who'sbeen on the show before, that
guy is totally typecast as asheriff every time I see him.
He goes over to JR a little bitmore tenderly because he knows
basically JR bought hisposition, so he's got to handle

(23:27):
this just so.
JR says, I didn't do that.
When I came outside, Cliff wasdrowning this girl in the pool.
So the other sheriff, let's dosheriff number one and main
sheriff.
Sheriff number one goes over tomain sheriff and he pulls him
aside and he says, Hey, CliffBarnes is saying that uh JR
pushed her off the balcony andkilled her.
Main sheriff is like, Well, Imean, the balcony is broken, you

(23:50):
know what I'm saying?
I mean, yeah.
So they both you can tell theyboth kind of feel like that's
really what happened, but theydon't want to say anything
because this family is big andpowerful and whatnot.
Main sheriff goes over to JR,says, Hey, Cliff says you pushed
her off the balcony.
He's like, I didn't push her offthe balcony.
I came outside and he wasdrowning that girl.
Well, Cliff can hear by thispoint.
It's so funny that he's in awetsuit.

(24:12):
Just knowing he probably hatedthat so much.
Cliff comes over and he says, Ibarely knew this girl.
I have absolutely no reason towant to kill her.
He killed her, and he just likehe uh killed, I think he said
Julie Gray, who I had forgottenabout.
I'm assuming that was the model.
I don't remember what.
Cliff has been in trouble somany times at this point.
But he says, J.R.

(24:33):
is trying to frame me like hetried to frame me for the Julie
Gray murder.
I didn't do this, I don't knowthis girl.
I saw her in the pool, I jumpedin and helped.
So everybody's like, okay,right, fine.
Now, JR is all but threatened,main sheriff, saying, you know,
my daddy got you that job, yougotta do right.
But the main sheriff says, Man,I gotta be a sheriff, JR.
If you don't answer questionshere, I'm gonna have to take you

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down to this to the station.
He don't want to go to thestation.
He said, I have a tragedy on myhands, not the death of this
nobody, even though that's hissister-in-law.
And they'd even ask, Well, wasshe here to see Sue Well?
He goes, I don't really know.
My son has been kidnapped, thatis more important.
I'm afraid something bad's gonnahappen to him.
My sister-in-law took him, she'sprobably giving him to Sueella.

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And I guess this sort of tracksin 1981, 1982, a parent stealing
their or taking their child isnot really considered
kidnapping.
I don't ever want to make lightof kidnapping in any way, but I
know a lot of the amber alerts Isee it's usually a parent taking
the kid, so it's justinteresting to see how that has
changed over time.
But the sheriff says he's heain't in no imminent danger, so

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you need to come on down to thestation with me.
Well, right about this time,Bobby drives up.
Bobby is late.
This is all Bobby's fault, quitefrankly.
Why would you have a meeting atyour house?
You know how Cliff feels aboutyour family.
I wouldn't have met him, butanyway, Bobby pulls up, he's
trying to figure out what'sgoing on because the place is

(25:58):
still crawling with cops.
So he says, JR, what happened?
He says, This clown Barneskilled Kristen.
No, Bobby does he look at Cliff,but he just says Kristen.
So I he probably immediatelylike, nah, no, he didn't.
And Cliff says, No, your brotherthrew off the balcony.
Here's my thought.
Before we go any further, I'veonly gotten as far as to where

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they got down to the sheriff'sstation, so it's not very much
further.
It's like seven minutes in.
Bobby, does Bobby know thatKristen shot JR?
I don't really remember.
I feel like that was kept underwraps, but Bobby seems to know a
little bit of everything all thetime.
I don't know if he and Pam knowthat, but I'm sure he knew they
were boning at the very least.

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So yeah, Cliff really doesn'thave a reason to do that, and he
certainly wouldn't go to yourhouse to kill her.
So they do end up hauling JR offdown to the sheriff's office
because he didn't he refused toanswer questions.
Cliff answered questions whilehe was there.
It's two people accusing eachother of killing a girl, a girl
who maybe just fell into thepool.
Who knows?
We're gonna find out what JR hasto say downtown.

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But he tells Bobby before hegoes, Your crazy wife stole my
son.
I need you to get down toAbilene and get my son back
there at the blah blah blahhotel.
So once everybody leaves, Bobbygets on the phone and he calls
their private helicopter guy.
He's like, hey, um, or theirprivate jet, which I forgot they
had.
I've seen him on the helicoptera lot, but not the jet.
Hey, I need to I need to fly toAbilene right now.

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And the guy's oh, I'm so sorry,mister.
You and the engine's out.
We're working on the engine.
I can't fly you.
Okay, no problem.
He hangs up and he calls SunWest, not Southwest, very
clever.
Sun West, I need a flight toAbilene.
If you know Texas geography,Dallas and Abilene really aren't
that far apart.
I think that might be like a10-minute flight.

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I don't even see how you woulddo that.
Anyway, they don't have a flightgoing out until 7 a.m.
He could get in a car and be inAbilene in a couple hours, is
what I'm thinking.
Dallas and Abilene really aren'tthat far apart.
I'm not gonna harp on that, butthat's an odd soap tax
considering there is a map.
Now I know everybody in WestTexas usually has to fly out of

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Midland.
You can go from Midland toDallas, which is about a
six-hour drive.
That flight is only 30 minutes.
You can fly from Midland toHouston in an hour, but that's
like an eight to ten hour drive.
So I'm that's you see what I'msaying?
If you're flying from Abilene orfrom Dallas to Abilene, it's not

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it's it's like a five-minutetrip.
There's no way.
There's absolutely no way.
If a six-hour trip takes 30minutes, I'm not even gonna do
the math.
There's zero chance that thistwo-hour drive would even be
feasible back then.
Because I know Southwest, theyact like they don't want to go
nowhere.
It's impossible to fly in andout of San Antonio without any
drama.
It is so crazy.
You have to like reroute toHouston.

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Sometimes you want to go to SanAntonio to Dallas, they'll send
you to Houston first and thenyou go up.
That makes sense.
So a lot of people will justdrive.
Like you might as well.
There's plenty of roads inTexas, you just drive wherever
you need to go.
I guess this is the same soaptax that would allow us to
believe there are mountains nearSan Angelo, which isn't that far
from Abilene either.
I digress.

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Let's get to it.
So Cliff ends up having to godown to the sheriff's office too
and re-give his statement.
Mind you, he is sopping wet in asuit.
He has to spend the entire nightrecanting this story again and
again.
JR does the same thing.
So let JR tell it.
He's in the office with MaineSheriff, and he said that
Kristen had come over.
She must have been high or shewas drunk or something, and she

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was trying to hit him up for awhole lot of money.
Main Sheriff says, Does she dothat often?
Why wouldn't she just ask hersister?
JR says to him, Me and hersister aren't together right
now.
We are separated currently.
And when you are wealthy likemyself, you'll find that you
have a lot of poor relatives.
The sheriff's like, Yeah,probably.
That makes sense.
He eventually gets around toKristen.

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Okay, so tell me what you saw.
He's like, I went out on thebalcony and I saw Clip Barnes
drowning that girl.
Now, like I said, it is leaning.
To me, it seems like thesheriff's office is not really
buying that Cliff had anythingto do with it.
So he sort of cocks his head tothe side and said, Now, what did
you see?
I didn't say what you think.
What did you see?
He goes, Okay.
I just saw him in the pool.

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I didn't see him drowning her orwhatever.
And the sheriff says, Well, didyou push her off the balcony?
JR says, No, I did not.
How did that balcony get brokenthen?
I don't know.
Here's my thing.
Bobby had said somethingearlier.
Bobby's about to get in a caband have a cab drive him to
Abilene, which is wild.
He and Ray are chatting.
Bobby said, you know, JR's a lotof things, but he ain't no

(30:36):
killer.
And I think I said that the lastepisode.
I don't really think he's akiller like that, but I don't
know.
Is that what he's blossominginto?
It's only a matter of time,right?
I've watched enough gangsterfilms to know.
Michael Colleone did not startout as a murdering mob boss.
That was not his intention.
He was a patriotic soldier,simply wanting to see his sister

(30:56):
get married.
Before you know it, he wassucked into the family business.
He didn't start off as nokiller.
Remember, he had a really hardtime.
I'm talking about the Godfather,by the way, if you don't know.
When he went into thatrestaurant and he had to kill
that guy, he he suffered withthat.
You know what I'm saying?
But it's like after the firstone, it gets a lot easier.
I'm not saying this fromexperience, I'm saying from what
I've watched on all thesegangster films.

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You name it, I've seen it.
Ray sort of believes the samething as I do.
He says, under the rightcircumstances, anybody could be
a killer.
I.e., maybe you stole this man'sson.
Maybe you're doing X, Y, and Z.
He's not wrong, but I'm alsolike, uh, who knows?
I don't know.
I don't I think he did push heraccidentally.

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I do not think she showed uphigh.
I do 100% think she showed upasking for money.
I think she said something topiss him off about the baby.
He's already pissed off thatJohn Ross is not there.
I think it just got out of hand.
That's my opinion.
And I have that opinion becausehe was the one holding a glass
of bourbon.
As Cliff's jumping in the pool,like, oh my gosh, JR does not

(32:04):
look bothered.
He's drinking his beverage,like, oh man, that's crazy.
So, anyways.
Once JR is released, he goes tomake a phone call and he's
asking for the detective guy hecalled earlier.
Apparently, that guy's not inhis office.
He left.
So JR leaves a message thatsays, Tell him to meet me in my
office in an hour.
I'm not gonna hang up on that,but how would how would the guy

(32:25):
know if he's gone, right?
Anyway, JR goes to his office.
Sure enough, the guy comes inand he says, I've done some
digging.
Your son's not at the AbileneHotel anymore.
He is headed to San Angelo.
JR's like, wait, what?
The guy explains.
McCar picked up the baby fromthe hotel in Abilene, and they
tracked the license plate ofthat said car to San Angelo.

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He names a little part of thewhatever, and JR goes, Oh,
that's the Southern Cross.
So let's rewind a little bit andthink about Dusty's daddy.
Remember, Dusty's daddy told SueEllen he didn't really know JR
like that.
He knew of him, but he got moneylike they got money.
And JR, this is apparently truebecause JR is like, wait, that's
the Southern Cross.

(33:10):
All those refineries, all thosethis, all those that.
So now he's looking a littleworried, like, well, what the
hell would they want with mykid?
That's as far as I got.
But I'm thinking one of y'all, Ithink one of y'all told me to
watch out for the dad.
Oh, I don't know.
The Southern Cross is in SanRemo, which is in another
county.
So JR's wishes, which are havethe San Angelo sheriff

(33:33):
department track down the car,put a watch, you know, basically
put a bolo out, track the car,and then I'm gonna go get him.
And his dude is like, nah, youcan't really do that.
They don't have jurisdiction inthis other place in San Rivo.
It's just so funny to me that JRat one point was sort of
watching over Sue Ellen, or atleast we thought he was.

(33:54):
It was only Dusty this wholetime.
I got a little bit confused withthat.
I think at some point JR stoppedcaring what Sue Ellen did once
he was on the mend, once he wasback in power.
He stopped caring about what shedid.
He's only traked her that one ortwo times.
But he's none the wiser aboutDusty.
I don't think anybody knowsabout Dusty.
Which leads me to believe thatit was Sue Ellen in that car.

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I don't know why I was thinkingit would be Dusty's family, like
a driver, but I'm sure Sue Ellenwas in the car because Pam would
have dropped off the baby toher.
Pam wouldn't have given the babyjust to anybody.
The next scene they show drivesme crazy in film when they do
this.
I was watching another showwhere they were supposed to be
in Lubbock, Texas.
But they go outside and you cansee the palm trees in the

(34:37):
background.
They are allegedly at thishotel, and I see about five or
six palm trees, which, yes,there are palm trees in Texas.
People plant them, they bringthem in, but there's not a ton
of them.
It's like two in someone's yard.
This is wild.

(35:00):
Oh my gosh.
Okay, so do you remember lasttime I said that when they have
a young girl, someone betweenthe ages of like 18 and 22, 23,
they don't really know what todo with her on these sort of
shows.
They have no idea what to do.
So enter Lucy.
She had come home, remember,from her young Miss Dallas
expedition to Houston orwhatever.

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Found Mitch laying asleep on thecouch with all his clothes on,
and another woman in herbedroom.
Now, listen, I don't really sheshe reacted how she needed to
react.
I'm I'm not blaming her for thatat all.
There's a woman sleeping in myhouse.
When I'm not here, I feel a wayabout it.
I totally get that, Lucy, 100%.
So she moves back to South Fork.
Now she gets there, and only Rayis on the premises.

(35:44):
Heard about Kristen on theradio.
What had happened?
Ray's like, well, she was in thepool.
They found her dead in the poolhere.
She's like, dang, well, who washome?
Ray says, Well, Cliff Barn foundher.
He showed up and he found her,but JR was home.
She was like, hmm.
JR, huh?
Dang.
She didn't say yes or no, but Imean, yeah, people are tending
to believe that.

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So Bobby actually took the cabto Abilene, I realize now, so
that he could drive Pam back.
He goes to the hotel, never mindthe palm trees.
Soap tax, soap tax, soap tax.
And they have a littlediscussion about it.
He says, Pam, I'm not sure youdid the right thing.
And she says, I'm just soworried about Chris.
I can't believe this happened toKristen.

(36:25):
He says, Well, I didn't havetime to think about it because I
was so worried about you.
That's kind of a weird thing tosay, but okay.
He doesn't think she did theright thing.
And Pam says, Well, if you hadseen Sue Ellen's face last night
when she picked up the baby, youmight not be saying the same
thing.
I know JR is who he is, but Ididn't feel like he was doing
the right thing by keeping achild away from their mother.
Bobby is he's playing the bothsides very well.

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I really do feel like it.
He's not out and out accusinghis brother.
He didn't think his brother's akiller, but he can understand
that he does do things the wrongway most of the time.
And he's not really mad at Pamabout it.
I'm glad to see that.
And he says, you know, do youreally think you should have
gotten involved?
She's like, I had to.
There was a little kid.
There's an innocent child inbetween this.

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There's no reason to keep thatbaby from Suwelling.
Bobby agrees, even though hedoesn't feel like Pam should
have taken the baby.
So they end up driving to thisrestaurant.
They pull up.
The marquee thing under the signsays, two eggs, hash brown, and
toast for a dollar andfifty-five cents.
Can we just have a moment forlivable?

(37:29):
Whew.
Two whole eggs, y'all.
It probably costs a dollarfifty-five for two eggs now.
But you get to have two eggs, apiece of toast, and you get to
chase it with hash browns.
Hallelujah.
Okay, let's get back to Lucythough.
So Lucy has moved back to SouthFork.

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She told that to Ray.
I still find it incrediblyuncomfortable that that's her
uncle knowing that they werebang hanging on season one.
It's so weird.
They seem to be over it.
I guess they'll just pretend itnever happened, right?
At some point, I don't know ifit's the next day or later that
day, I'm not really sure.
Lucy ends up going back to thehome she and Mitch share, that
apartment that her familybought.

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And when she walks in, he iscleaning up per usual.
If you think about it, Mitch wasa full-time student and a
part-time housewife because hedid all the work while Lucy went
gallivanting around Dallas andthe greater parts of Texas being
young Miss Dallas.
He feels bad, like Lucy.
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
She's no, I'm sorry.

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And then she gives him thisheart to heart with a straight
face.
She says, Mitch, I fell in lovewith you.
I fell in love with you becauseyou are the way you are.
You're poor and you can't affordthe things I can afford.
And sorry.
You have to scrimp and scrape,and you know, I loved that you

(38:56):
were poor.
Basically, I fell in love withyou because you were poor.
And you wouldn't take any moneyfrom my family.
I love that.
He's like apologizing.
He's like, Lucy, I'm so sorry.
That's if I had if there wasanother way for me to be, I
would be it.
I would change for you.
But the only way I know how tosurvive is to survive like this.
I mean, on account of me beingpoor and whatnot.

(39:16):
And she goes, I know, I don'twant you to change.
I love you just the way you are.
So she runs up to him and theyhave this beautiful warm
embrace.
She's just basically like, but Ican't live like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I can't be poor.
I I can be scrimping andscraping.
You can blame it on the way Iwas raised, you know, with

(39:37):
wealth and anything I wanted.
She literally said out hermouth, I don't have I don't want
to wait for what I want.
I don't want to have to wait forthat.
I want what I want now.
So she hugs him and shebasically says, I can't change,
but I just can't be poor.

(39:57):
I'm really sorry, Mitch.
But um, yeah, it's not nearly asas romantic as I thought it
would to even pretend to bepoor.
Mind you, they're living in apenthouse.
Mind you, she has a job thatpays Buku money, and she still
has grandparents who foot everysingle bill.
But she likes, yo, thisstruggle.

(40:18):
Even being struggle adjacent isreally not a good look for me,
Mitch.
I love you to death, but I mean,being poor, not for me.
Not on my watch, homie.
Mitch is sort of licking hiswounds, and he goes to the
cabaret where his sister is alounge singer.
And she is singing this song.

(40:39):
There was a song when I was akid.
I know I'm gonna get it wrong.
I'm saying it's ace of bass.
It's not ace of bass.
And it's not Cheryl Crow, butCheryl Crow writes in that same
style where um I went into thegrocery store and picked up
cereal, then uh splash cold milkon my face.
That kind of thing.
Afton is basically singing.

(41:02):
You walked into my bedroom andyou kissed my forehead, and I
rolled over on the silk pillow.
She's carrying on dolo.
So maybe it's noon, maybe she'spracticing, I don't know, but
ain't nobody in there.
She's in there with this purpleoff-the-shoulder number.
In comes Mitch.

(41:23):
He's looking all sad.
She's like, Dang, what's wrongwith you?
You have to graduate.
You look awfully depressed forsomeone who's almost achieved
their dreams.
What gifts?
He says, Well, Lucy and I brokeup.
And she says, For good?
I thought she was gonna act likeshe didn't like Lucy.
But to some surprise, when hesays, Yeah, it looks that way,
she's like, You know what?

(41:43):
For somebody so smart, you arethe biggest fool I've ever met
in my life.
You know you dumb, dumb, right?
And he's like, What are youtalking about?
She's like, Let me get thisstraight, Mitch.
You have a woman who loves youto death, loves everything about
you, but you can't live with thefact that she has money.
You'd rather her live like apauper.
She's like, You drove this girlaway.

(42:05):
When you put it like that, I'mwith you when you're right,
Afton.
She's right.
You drove this girl away becauseshe had money bags, money bags,
money bags.
She dug you because you werepoor, and the fact that she said
it is hilarious to me.
But Afton's not wrong.
You couldn't get over the factthat she has money.
So Afton's like, well, let meask you something, Mitch.

(42:27):
What's so wrong with a womanhaving more money than a man?
He's like, it's just not the wayI want to live.
She's like, Well, you dumb dumb.
That's exactly why you stand uphere looking stupid right now.
He drowns the whiskey and heslams the glass down.
Fix me another drink.
I thought, dang, Mitch, you aredumb on two accounts.
First and foremost, I knowyou're like straight lace and
you want to go to school and allthat, but what kind of college

(42:48):
student wouldn't take advantageof your little sister working at
a bar?
You get free drinks all thistime, and you'd rather work 97
jobs when your wife can easilycover your tuition.
I get it.
Pride is one thing, but herfunding the work that you're
putting into your life, there'snothing wrong with that.
There's no way on earth anybodywould look at that.

(43:08):
Not that it's important if theydid, but nobody's gonna look at
Mitch and say, Wow, you reallywrote her coattails.
No, you worked your way throughmed school.
And maybe the last six monthsyou had a wife who had enough
money to cover it.
So instead of working 77 jobs,you could work maybe two if you
insist and study and then becomea doctor.
If you're not comfortable withmoney, you definitely went into

(43:30):
the wrong profession, especiallyin the 80s.
You're not gonna sit up here andtell me that that wasn't one of
the highest paying jobs in thecountry at the time.
Zero chance that's not the case.
So Midge can't handle the money.
For the first time on this show,something hit me.
Ms.
Donna Culver.

unknown (43:44):
Ms.

SPEAKER_01 (43:45):
Donna Culver inherited she was married to an
older gentleman.
Apparently, they had a beautifulrelationship.
She got along with her stepson,who's like two months younger
than her.
He he was her mentor, herex-husband, that is, or her what
do you wait, what do you say?
Is that her ex-husband if he'sdeceased?
I'm not sure of the properwording of that, but you know
what I'm saying.
Her late husband was a mentor toher.

(44:08):
He was a wonderful man.
She learned a lot from him, somuch so that she has become sort
of a powerhouse in the politicalrealm.
She is helping different peoplerise in the ranks.
She seems to be a good womanwith a good heart and a lot of
money.
But it didn't occur to me in theway that it should have.
When you look at Mitch, who'scoming, he's marrying someone
with money.

(44:28):
He's very uncomfortable with it.
Donna Culver married a man withmoney, and I never even thought
about what how comfortable shemay or may not have been.
So you remember last time we sawher, she was in Virginia, and
she got a call from the bankwhere the bank's like, Yo, your
husband just came in here andtook out three million dollars.
Did you know about it?
She pretended like she did.
She also got on the first thingsmoking.

(44:50):
She didn't fly southwest, shesaw she flew Delta or Delta,
whatever they call it on here.
She got back to Dallas and Raysitting out in the front yard.
He's thinking she's coming homebecause Kristen is dead.
And he says, Oh, would havecalled you.
You don't have to come back forthat.
She goes, No, I was already onmy way.
He goes, Oh, okay, well, how wasthe party?
Well, I didn't go to the party,I was already on my way back
here.

(45:10):
It hits him.
He's like, Oh, you came backhome for something else.
Uh, yeah, Ray, she had threemillion reasons to show up.
Here's the part that surprisedme the most I knew she wasn't
gonna go off.
I knew she wasn't gonna flipout, but she says, Ray, listen,
baby, I inherited a lot ofmoney, and I never thought of it
as my money, it's our money.

(45:31):
That's number one.
Okay, that's quite generous.
I'm thinking that's her money,right?
Like she inherited that.
But she basically tells him, I,you know, I ain't never been
wealthy outside of this man, soI just want to make sure we're
doing the right things.
She is new to this being theheir, being the um facilitator

(45:51):
of these funds.
She doesn't have the wisdom.
I I'm walking into this thinkingwhen she got the call from the
bank that she does a lot ofdealings with the bank.
She's really good with money,she's been handling this, but
it's new to her, too.
She's just savvy enough to knowsomething about this deal
doesn't feel right.
Ray, I feel like you're rushinginto it.
So she's not mad that he tookthree million dollars, but she

(46:12):
is concerned why he took themoney and where the money went.
Ray is a little bit offendedbecause he said, I was all over
that T'Challa deal, and itturned out wonderful.
Why do you think I don't knowwhat I'm doing?
It ain't that you don't know,you just knew to this.
That's all I'm saying.
You knew to business, I'm new tobeing a widow, I'm new to being

(46:33):
a cabillionaire in my own right.
I'm just saying both of us arefresh to this.
Perhaps we are a little morecautious in our dealings.
That's all I'm saying.
He feels away so far.
I don't know what else ishappening.
So a little later on, Bobbyinvites Donna to go horseback
riding with him, but he's notreally saying anything.
And she's like, yo, did youreally want company or did you
just feel guilty?
What's that?

(46:53):
Why do you call me?
He breaks it down to her, I'mhaving a little bit of marital
woes with Pam.
You know what I'm saying?
She's the one who took John Rossto Abilene.
Donna is a girl's girl.
I mean, I would have done theexact same thing if I'm being
honest with you.
Well, Bobby goes, Well, youknow, Pam has these weird moves
wings where sometimes I can talkto her, sometimes I can't.

(47:14):
And I guess he's talking aboutwhen they got back to South
Fork, she went right up to JohnRoss's room and she just sort of
sat there.
She's sad.
I mean, she loved that baby.
Remember, that was she wastaking care of him right after
Sue Ellen had him because SueEllen wasn't able to bond with
him.
So, yeah, she has an attachmentto the child.
She still gave the child up tohis mother because that's where
he needed to be.

(47:34):
But Bobby's like, I don't knowwhy she's acting so weird.
And Donna's like, dude, are youfor because she wants a baby?
Obviously, that's the problem.
He goes, I know, but she's likeobsessed with it.
Donna said, Listen, dude, okay.
Okay.
Don't listen to me.
Why don't you get her a doctor?
You mean a psychiatrist?
Yeah, uh yes, sir.

(47:55):
She might need an a a helpfulear to talk through this with.
Doesn't seem like Bobby's gonnabe much help.
I tell you what, they have theweirdest.
It's not that Bobby and Pamdon't have chemistry, but their
problems seem so forced to mesometimes.
Do you guys agree?
I feel like they feel so forced.
This is a good time as any tobring this up.
Jock and Ellie have not shown upon this episode.

(48:16):
I didn't consider this until Ihad that comment last time on
Knott's landing.
Them sort of how do you saythis?
Rebuilding after Sid, eventhough I feel like Sid wasn't a
super major character, not thathe was easily replaced, but you
know, they were able to sort ofcarry on after that.
I think it hits so differentlywhen the the actual actor passes

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away.
So they're doing a great job.
Not all the character, not allthe cast is in the same spot
ever.
Doesn't really seem like it.
And Donna Culver having a biggerpart this episode.
This is probably the most I'veever seen her on screen.
They're having to fill in thegaps a little bit.
They're not really talking a lotabout Jock or Ellie or where
they are.
And so far, we're only one dayout from the date that Kristen

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was killed or died.
Killed or died.
I don't know yet.
I I just I can't even imaginehow difficult this must have
been to go back to work andpretend like everything is
normal.
Do your job as actors.
You know, they're digging deep,they're doing what they're they
need to, but I'm I'm positive atthis point the the whole show
was up in the air.
They didn't really know what todo.

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There's no way they would haveknown what to do, but I I feel
like they're gonna have toprobably have a little stronger
roles for Ray and for Donna andthrow in a little more intrigue.
And it seems like they're tryingto set that up.
This isn't the first or thirdtime that Pam's been wanting a
baby or been a little bit upsetabout it.
So I'm just curious as to howthat's gonna play out,

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considering they really do haveto sort of work around Jock.
And as of right now, it feelslike Jock is just in Paris with
Ellie, and nothing more has comeof that just yet.
Cliff does get to go over to hismom's house.
I did, even though I'm not asuper fan of Rebecca JG
Wentworth, I am a fan of himbeing able to call his mama

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after he gets out of jail.
And she's trying to figure outokay, well, Cliff, well, what's
this got to do with you?
Why do they think you did it?
He lays it out for I went overthere to meet Bobby.
I saw the body in the pool Ijumped in, and JR is up on the
balcony with the broken balcony,mama, looking down like I did
something.
She's like, Yeah, that's crazy.

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And he goes on and on about J.R.
And she goes, You sound justlike your dad.
He was always obsessed withthem.
And he's like, My daddy wasright, though.
He might have been a drunk, hemight have been a loser, he
might have been crazy, but hewas not wrong about those
ewings.
Every time those ewings jump insomething, it ruins it.
Now she has been away for many,many moons, so she's not privy

(50:49):
to Cliff's life with the Ewings.
He's not lying.
Whether you want to hear it ornot, you're gonna have to sit
through that.
And Rebecca JG Wentworth isgonna have to bite her tongue
because you can't be a back fromthe dead absentee mother having
opinions on what he's sayingabout something that happened to
him.
He was at the drug was at thepolice station, he has been
drugged through the mud andframed by these people.

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So I mean, personalresponsibility would say he
probably should find a differentcrowd to run with, but also he's
not really doing anything, it'shappening to him.
Anyway, let me get back to this.
Oh, I can't wait to tell y'allabout Sue Ellen and them.
Baby, I'm trying to see okay.
So Sue Ellen has already poppedup.

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I might as well go ahead andtell it.
I was thinking I would just waitto the end of the episode and
put that whole story together,but I'm just gonna tell you what
I saw.
Number one, the Southern Crossis where it's at.
The Southern Cross makes SouthFork look like I don't know.
Do y'all remember that store biglots?

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Like you go in and they wouldhave not Barbies, they call them
like Sally's or something.
It looks like that.
Like this ranch is sprawling, itis lush, it is green, all the
animals must be miles away sothey're not downwind from the
cows.
Beautiful sprawling.
They got the pool, they got theSpanish-style mansion with the
terracotta roof tiles.

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So JR has convinced the SanAngelo County Sheriff to go to
this place.
They end up driving up to theSouthern Cross and they escort
him to the door.
Now, as they're walking up,there's Dusty's daddy's kind of
fine.
I'm just gonna put that outthere.
He's kind of kind of hot.
He's standing on the balcony,you know, chest out, chin up.

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He runs teens and he says, Howcan I help you, Sheriff?
Oh, hi, Mr.
Dusty's dad.
Is that your son's car outfront?
Indeed, it is.
Daddy comes on down the steps.
He meets the sheriff and JR faceto face, blah, blah, blah.
And they say, Well, you know, wewe got word that that car was in
Abilene last night at thishotel, the Dustin Motel, or

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something like that.
And Daddy says, Yeah, my son wasabsolutely in Abilene at the
Dust Dust Hotel.
That's exactly correct.
And then the sheriff says, Thisis J.R.
Ewing.
Daddy says, I know who he is.
And well, we have reason tobelieve that his son is here.
He's and is.

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He is.
How can I help you, gentlemen?
JR says, Oh, well, if my son'sin their house, would you mind
going in and get him?
I'd really like him back.
JR is not clocking that there'ssomething going on here yet.
Dad's like, no, no, he's fine.
He's with his mom.
I don't think we're gonna dothat.
Right about this time, Dustycomes out with his forest gump
things.
I'm not being hateful, I justdon't know what to call them his
crutches.

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He comes out, Dusty's lookinggood, he's walking, he's not
sweating or anything.
He's like, Dad, do we have aproblem here?
Daddy says, No, Dusty, this, youknow, this here, JR.
He just wanted to know if hisbaby was there or whatnot.
JR looks at him and says, Hey,aren't you that used to ride
rodeos or something, right?
Dusty says, indeed, in theflesh, oh yeah, you that cowboy

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who made a pass at my wife.
He's like, Something like that.
Something like that.
Well, Sue Ellen comes out inburnt orange with a vengeance.
Top to bottom.
She's kind of got on an outfitlike Daphne from Scooby-Doo, but
it's so cute.
And she's like, don't get JR.
You ain't finna get this baby.

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This baby ain't going nowhere.
And JR's like, Sue Ellen, whatthe Yeah, yeah, I'm staying
here.
I'm suing you for divorce, JR.
And he's like, Okay, well, um,can we have a moment alone?
Dusty's like, she ain't goingnowhere.
JR said, Man, Sheriff, tell him,man, I ain't gonna do nothing to
her.
I ain't gonna do nothing.
I just won't talk to her.
She eventually agrees.
They walk off to a beautifulgazebo.

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Keep in mind that all this is inthe backdrop of these beautiful
rolling hills, uh white stucco,terracotta tops.
It is gorgeous.
They go to this gazebo, and JRsays, I don't know how to tell
you this, but Kristen is dead.
As well as like, like, likeboring dead?
No, like dead, dead.
Dead?

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Why is she dead?
Um, she was in the pool.
Yeah, she died at South Forklast night.
She was like, huh.
How?
He's like, uh, uh, I don'tbelieve you.
Why would I make that up?
Make up a lot of stuff.
He's like, I know, I know, butwhy would I make that up?
She didn't believe him, but youcan tell she's starting to
believe him.
She's like, oh my god, you didit.

(55:27):
You absolutely did it.
She's just like Cliff, and Idon't blame him because it's
like this is a pattern.
Plus, she knows about the baby.
She goes, Well, what about herbaby?
JR says, We don't really know ifthere is a baby.
She goes, Well, you sent a checklike there was a baby every
month.
He goes, I know, but I ain'tnever seen no picture, ain't
nobody's gonna see them.
We don't know there was a baby.
She's pissed.
I ain't going nowhere with you,JR.

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You'll never see your son.
He goes, Now listen, I'll giveyou all the money you want.
I will do worse you, no problem.
But what you're not gonna do iskeep my son.
She's like, we'll see.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, JRcomes stomping out of the house
when he sees Pam chilling by thepool.
First off, it's so weird thatnobody's weirded out that there
was a body floating in the pool24 hours ago.

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Everybody has moved on withtheir life.
Like, okay, that sucked.
But I mean, it's still water,it's still Texas, it's still
hot.
Pam has gotten used to beingwealthy.
She is coming to the money quitewell.
Teresa, can I have some morecoffee?
I swear Teresa looks different.
Last time she was young lastseason, but Teresa pours more
coffee.
JR spots her.

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He comes out of the housewalking like his feet hurt.
They hadn't broken his bootsthis episode.
And he basically wants to cussout Pam.
Well, well, well.
If I was you, I would stay far,far away from me.
I can't believe you kidnapped myson.
She's like, oh my god, JR.
I didn't kidnap anyone.
I took a baby to his mother.
Like, you mean you took her ababy to Abilene so that he could

(56:53):
be taken to San Angelo to theSouthern Cross Ranch where she
can shack up with some cowboyshe's not married to.
Pam ignores all that.
She's like, like I said, thebaby needs to be with his
mother.
They are like, even if she'ssleeping with a man she's not
married to?
Of course, you would thinkthat's fine, wouldn't you?
You being the illegitimatedaughter of a cow hand and the

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stepdaughter of the town drunk.
Well, right about this time,Donna Culver and Bobby come up.
Bobby hears him disrespectinghis lady, and he's like, Oh no,
hell no.
But he runs up on JR.
That's enough, JR.
JR turns around, like, how dareyou interrupt me cussing her out
and disrespecting your wife?
I am not done disrespecting yourwife.
Bobby's like, Oh, yes, you are.

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I'm not done.
I'm gonna continue to cuss herout.
Then JR gets froggy and decideshe wants to jump.
He goes to swing on him, butBobby's young and spray.
Now we know Bobby's 18 yearsyounger.
But luckily, right about thattime, Ray comes up, breaks up
the fight, or almost fight.
There was no fight.
Break it up.
I cannot stress to you howunbothered Pam is.

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She just looks up like, oh,what?
Who?
She's been called worse.
You gotta think when you grow upwith a drunk daddy, she's
probably heard and seen it all.
J.R.
Lee's ranch and decide he'sgonna go to work, clear his
head.
I swear to you, when he walksin, I swear that was Kristen for
a split second.
Secretary's like, Mr.
Ewing, I'm so sorry to hearabout your sister in law.

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He's like, Yeah, I know, I know,I know.
Tell Lou Ellen when she comesin.
I got a lot of dictation for herto do today.
I think that it was code forsomething else.
You fill that in.
And the new secretary's like,Well, Lou Ellen ain't coming in
today.
JR said, Why?
She's sick.
She's like, No, you fired her.
She even says it slow like that,no, you fired her, homie.
And he's like, I guess I did.

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JR meets with his new lawyer inhis office.
He feels like the other guy wastoo soft.
So he says, New lawyer, I needyou to represent me.
Sue Ellen's got my baby.
And he's like, okay, Bet,where's the baby?
Oh, he's in San Angelo.
Ah, that's gonna be a problem.
I don't know if I can do muchwith that.
JR says, why not?
She's an unfit mother.
New lawyer says, What is hisname?
Mr.
Howard says that would be trueand easy to prove if the baby

(59:05):
was in your possession.
But since they're not, I mean,what are you gonna do?
JR makes a vow to him.
I guarantee you before courtstarts, that baby's gonna be
back in my possession.
I have no reason to doubt him.
Not a one.
He looked good and crazy too.
Eyes are real red this episode.
J.R.
is also so weird about the wayhe says stuff.
So he walks out after themeeting, and Phyllis, Bobby's

(59:27):
lawyer.
Um, not lawyer, Bobby'ssecretary, is tic-tac typing
away.
And he says, Hey Phyllis, I needyou to hit up the agency.
I need some more girls sittingin here, I need a new secretary.
Unless, of course, you want tobe my secretary.
She's like, Well, I mean, I'dhave to talk to Bobby about
that.
You can tell she don't want tobe a secretary.
And he goes, Yeah, I guess he'sgot you broken in the way he
wants you.
She is not a horse, she is not apair of leather boots, sir.

(59:50):
You don't break in a secretary.
My God.
Even saying, Well, he's got youtrained the way.
I don't even like that.
It's like calling um.
Hate when someone's like, oh,you got a good woman.
That sounds like you have an oldbeat up truck.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't like the implicationbehind it.
Despite the way JR talks to andabout secretaries, he still
seems to be the man boyfriend.

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Bobby and Cliff meet up outsidein a very public space, which is
always a bad sign because youknow you've been you're finna
get some devastating news.
Whoever's telling you saiddevastating news needs you not
to cause a scene.
So they're out in public.
The gist of the conversation isBobby telling Cliff, I've never
lied to you, right?
Right.
Why would I lie now?

(01:00:32):
I did not give JR any evidenceso that he could slip his way
out of whatever this was.
Cliff's whole point is, do youreally believe he's innocent?
Bobby says, absolutely not, butnobody's been able to prove it.
Cliff says, I'm going to Austinto do just that.
Bobby says, good luck with that.
You went over my head.
You broke the chain of command.

(01:00:53):
If you'll do that to me, you'lldo it to anybody.
Cliff's like, nah, I just did itthis time because I know I was
right.
He's not wrong.
Bobby says, doesn't matter ifyou're right, wrong, or
indifferent.
People are looking at you out ofthe side of their eyes now.
I think you're gonna find thatAustin is a very rigid, cold,
frigid town for you, my friend.
You are done in politics.

(01:01:13):
Even if you won't admit it.
This is this is this is veryunfair.
I don't know why I have such asoft spot for Cliff.
Maybe because he's never reallydoing anything wrong.
He really is trying to bring thetruth about.
So what if he has a vendetta?
Doesn't mean he's wrong.
And he certainly isn't wrong inthis case, but dang, this is

(01:01:35):
what season is this?
This is season five.
This is at least the fourth timeCliff has lost his career.
I wouldn't even worry about itif I was him.
If you you've lost it five toseven times, you can definitely
get it back.
Meanwhile, back at the SouthernCross, I think Dusty is having
second thoughts.
Interestingly enough, this isprobably the first time he ever

(01:01:56):
saw Sue Ellen and JR interact.
It's a lot.
We've we got a kidnappingcharge, potentially a nasty
divorce.
It's a lot to take on.
So he says, Sue Ellen, do youthink maybe you need some time
to j to adjust?
Maybe just some time with youand the baby.
Recalibrate a little bit.

(01:02:17):
She says, absolutely not.
I want to be here with you.
You have fulfilled every woman'sfantasy.
You're a white knight who cameand got me on a white horse and
saved me from the dragon.
You brought me to your castle.
We're gonna live happy everafter.
He hears this and it's nice andit's true.
However, he's looking like Idon't know.

(01:02:37):
Is this am I just am I who youwant or am I just better than
what you had?
He tells her as much.
I don't want you to feel likeyou're in another prison.
You know, you are free to comeand go as you please.
If this don't work, whatever.
I don't think he's trying tobreak up, but I think he's wise
enough to be like, this is gonnabe really, really, really bad.
I'm not sure we have afoundation for this yet.

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That's a smart man.
Despite him wanting to help herand love her from a distance, it
makes you wonder.
People like that, like, do theyburn out too quickly?
If your romance is startedbecause you were the hero at
some point, how long do yousustain that if it's not true
love?
Look, y'all, vintage primetimesoapers do not know what to do
with young women.

(01:03:19):
Lucy comes out of the house.
I'm gonna assume it's anoff-the-shoulder Barbie swimsuit
or it's a bodysuit.
It is red and white striped, itis very cute.
She's got on a thinner, maybe atwo and a half inch wide Wonder
Woman belt over whiteculotteslash capri pants.
She then has a pair of sockspulled all the way up so that it

(01:03:43):
lowered.
And a pair of plastic candies,the stripper version.
What does Lucy have on?
I don't understand the socks andthe the clear hooker shoes.
Let me listen to what she has tosay.
Okay, Lucy is saying nothing butshe missed snitch.
I miss him, I miss him, I misshim, but I'm too rich and he's

(01:04:05):
too poor.
Maybe I'm just a brat.
She's telling all this to Bobby,and he's like, Mommy, you are a
brat, but it's never stopped youbefore.
That's it, that's all for her.
The big ooh, ooh, got juicy atthe end.
So JR is back at his office.
He's talking with his lawyerBarker.
I thought his name was HowardBarker.
He's talking to lawyer Barker,and um, they're trying to come

(01:04:27):
up with a game plan since thebaby is not in Dallas.
The lawyer seems to think thatthey might have something if
they uh if they attack SueEllen's character.
JR is like, yeah, I mean, she'sliving with a guy she's not
married to.
What jury is gonna be okay withthat?
Different times, obviously.
The lawyer says, yeah, therehave been cases where it has
been one on that.

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And if you think about yourwife's history, adultery,
remember when her face wassplashed all over the Towboys
when she was with Cliff?
Her drinking problem, basicallythe way that John Ross came into
the world because she wasdrinking alcoholic mouthwash and
slammed into a tree and had him.
Yeah, all I listen.
To be fair, that doesn't soundgreat.

(01:05:11):
Yeah, it's gonna be kind of hardto convince people otherwise.
Well, it don't matter.
As they're in the middle of thisconversation, Bobby's secretary
buzzes JR and says, Hey, thesheriff's here to see you.
Okay, cool, send him in.
Sheriff comes in, main sheriff,that is, main sheriff comes in.
JR introduces him to lawyerBarker, and the sheriff says,
Well, hey, um, I just had areally interesting call with the

(01:05:33):
DA from Dallas County.
And J.R.
says, Okay.
And I'm thinking, DA is not thesame as like the forensic team.
I was kind of like, I don'tknow.
I was expecting him to saysomething about the toxicology
report or something aboutKristen.
Well, he's talking about Chrisand all right, but he said, The
DA just told me that MissStewart confessed in front of
your whole family that she shotyou, but you managed to convince

(01:05:56):
the DA to sweep that under therug.
And JR So he's like, Oh?
And the lawyer's like, Oh, I hadforgotten.
I hadn't forgotten, but Icouldn't remember who else was
there.
So uh J.R.'s like, okay, well,what does that have to do with
anything?
He goes, Well, the DA is conjust got the best of them.
With this girl turning up dead,it seems like you have the best

(01:06:17):
motive out of anybody to takeher out.
And J.R.
said, That's ridiculous.
Why would I do a thing likethat?
Sheriff says, I don't know.
I know that you gotta come downto the sheriff's office with me
and we're gonna get this thingfigured out.
And then they just have thedramatic music.
I didn't realize the DA wasthere.
I didn't realize anybody well, Imight need to go back and

(01:06:38):
rewatch that.
I thought that it was JR and SueEllen, Jock and Ellie, and I
didn't remember if Kristen oranyone else, if excuse me, if
Bobby and Pam were there.
I I tend to believe theyweren't.
And I feel like Kristenconfessed to shooting JR in a
because she was jealous of SueEllen and he, and she wants she

(01:06:59):
didn't tell him she waspregnant, but she just wanted to
be with him and she misreadsomething and she got beside
herself and she's so sorry.
And then she went away.
They never called the cops.
I don't I didn't remember therebeing a DA there, but apparently
there was.
Excellent season opener.
I think they're doing a greatjob.
I mean, I think it helps to endon a cliffhanger, and it also

(01:07:21):
helps that Jock and Ellieweren't in the last few episodes
of the last season anyway.
I'm I'm sure as he got more andmore ill, they just had to
rework that.
So part of me feels like theythey're scrambling a little bit
behind the scenes, although youcan't really feel it on screen.
But maybe they had a plan.

(01:07:41):
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe they had a plan just incase.
So far, Jock and Ellie aren'there.
Lucy did say she wished grandmawas here.
She didn't say grandma andgranddad, but why would she be
talking to her granddad abouther man problems?
Way to go, Dallas.
Wonderful season opener.
It does make me wonder though,since the cast is not really
together.

(01:08:01):
You know, there's a spot,there's a couple of them here
and there.
It makes me wonder if they hadto shoot it in different at
different times.
I'm thinking like months apart.
I tell you what, that's thefirst thing I'm gonna do.
As soon as I finish one of theseseries, I'm gonna go back and
read everything I can.
I want the coffee table books, Iwant old articles.
I'm just gonna like immersemyself in it and rewatch it.

(01:08:24):
I have so many questions.
I gotta keep better track ofthese questions.
I think I'll put it on aspreadsheet or something.
Alright, guys, that's neitherhere nor there.
Thank you for joining me on thisexciting season opener.
Season five, season five.
Join me next time as we jumpback into some soap opera
debauchery.
I'm going to go ahead and drawit out of the bag again to
figure out who we're gonna watchnext.

(01:08:46):
In the meantime, in betweentime.
Well, before we go there, doy'all think do Okay?
I realize if you're watchingthis for the first time like me,
you don't know.
If you're taking your time.
If you have seen this before, amI well, you can't say anything,
but I'm just gonna say, I'm kindof with JR.
I don't know if there is a baby.
I feel like there is.

(01:09:07):
That's the perfect segue,though, if you think about it.
Rule of thumb has always beenfor me.
If a relative comes into town,they are bad news, with the
exception of cousin Michael andFrancesca on Falcon Crest.
They haven't really been aproblem thus far.
They're also off the show, also.
But when somebody disappears andthen they come back, I'm not as

(01:09:28):
verse with when a woman comesback with a baby, but anytime a
character on a show goes toanother city, you have to
believe there's a wholedifferent storyline there that
is going to come back at somepoint.
So the fact that she told JR NOHound Dogface, whatever his name
is, that he was also the daddymakes me think there's probably,

(01:09:51):
I don't know.
I feel like there might be ababy.
Maybe he'll grow up and comeback and mess up things, but
that could be a long way off.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll see.
Dallas doesn't seem like theybring things up just to
disappear later.
Shoot, I don't know.
Good riding, Dallas.
All right, join me next time aswe jump back into more soap

(01:10:12):
opera debauchery in the meantimeof time.
Stay hydrated, stay moisturized,mind your own business, and keep
all of your drama on TV.