December 5, 2025 • 39 mins
A poolside tragedy, a courtroom full of spin, and a helicopter that announces a new kind of war—this Dallas breakdown brings heat. We walk through how “Gone But Not Forgotten” closes Kristen’s storyline without letting anyone off the hook, then swing into the custody chess match that pits Sue Ellen’s resolve against J.R.’s need to control. The question isn’t just who’s right; it’s who can shape the story the fastest and the loudest. We unpack the testimony that frames Kristen’s death as accidental, the way J.R. seeds doubt with a tossed-off polygraph line, and why Cliff’s failure to land a killing blow at Westar changes the city’s power math. From Afton’s crucial betrayal to Wendell’s lingering grudge, every side character shifts the floor beneath the leads. Meanwhile, Sue Ellen steps into full agency, fortified by Dusty and his father, and the airport snatch attempt becomes a turning point: the other side has muscle, money, and a plan. Watching J.R. take an on-the-spot loss is rare and deeply satisfying. Beyond the fireworks, we sit with Pam’s longing for a child and the silence it creates in her marriage. We trace how wealth acts like a character—seducing, dividing, and redefining Donna and Ray, Lucy and Mitch. Dallas thrives when personal stakes meet public spectacle, and this hour nails it: grief handled with restraint, strategy handled with flair. If you love dynastic drama, morally gray moves, and women who turn pain into power, this one’s for you. Loved the episode? Follow the show, share it with a soap-loving friend, and drop a review to tell us: is J.R. fighting for love or possession? Your take might show up on air.
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Hello, corners.
Welcome and welcome back toanother fun building of
snowboard.
I hope your day is shaping upwell.
Ooh, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm over here fist fightingsleep, almost to the point with
this feels unnatural.
Kind of rewound my day back andwas like, did somebody slip me
something?
I don't think that's it.
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I think it's just the Embermonths.
It is a more relaxing time, sortof.
Got that cozy fun feeling.
But yeah, the time has come forus to watch Dallas.
This episode is it'sinteresting.
And I hope by end by the end ofthe episode, you guys can help
me come up with the name forthis.
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Go ahead and pour yourself offsomething bubbly and bright as
we jump into season five,episode two of Dallas, gone but
not forgotten.
Before we get into today'sepisode, I want to touch on this
piece of fan mail I got.
Shout out to you, Oregon.
Really interesting tidbits and apiece of information that was
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all was so disturbing, I gotreally upset.
Also, I think I know why I'm sosleepy.
Dynasty.
That's why Dynasty made me doit.
As we speak, your girl is in thefinest pair of satin pajamas
Amazon gift cards could buy.
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I am silky, I'm chilling on mybed with the warmest blanket.
Got my can of non-alcoholicchampagne.
It's just something aboutlotioning up, putting on some
silk.
Well, they're not silk, they'resatin, you know what I'm saying?
My budget calls for satin, butyou know, I'm getting there.
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Satin PJs, I feel real regal.
I feel wonderful.
I just feel a little bit toorelaxed.
So I I may need to put onsomething else, a stiffer shirt
or something, so that I can getthrough this.
But let me read y'all thislittle this little tidbit.
Thank you, Oregon, for this.
I meant to talk about this onthe Knott's Landing episode and
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the Falcon Crest episode, justtime got away from me.
Wasn't able to do so.
But apparently, John Plaschette,aka Richard Avery, is married
currently to Dallas and Knott'sLanding series creator, David
Jacobs ex-wife Lynn.
So this woman was once upon atime, Lynn Jacobs.
She ends up marrying JohnPlaschette.
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How would you feel about that?
Think of it this way.
Think of it this way.
Yes, it's probably upsetting.
Now, I don't know thecircumstances of them being
together.
If you know she was divorced andthen she looks over her shoulder
and like, hey, you're kind ofcute, and things happen.
I don't really know.
But the ex-husband has to feel alittle bit of a way.
If I were him, I definitelywould.
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But also, how would you feel ifyou were this writer?
You had this beautifulbrainchild about a story about
people in varying stages in amarriage.
There's a European show aboutit, it works.
You kind of tweak it forAmerican audiences, and what do
you know?
It's a smash hit.
Hell, 40 years later, there'sgonna be some random woman
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reviewing this stuff on the onsomething called a podcast.
It's it's it's amazing.
It has a legacy.
Part of that legacy is acharacter named Richard Avery,
which you helped create, only tohave that dude marry your
ex-wife.
Did you write that in?
I thought that was sointeresting considering what the
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tone and texture is for Nod'sLanding and understanding that
the what it was based off of.
I wonder if the creator, youknow, maybe he was going through
it, him and his wife are goingthrough that.
You sprinkle a little bit ofthat into a storyline, whatever
the creative control is for theuh the creators, I'm not really
sure, but that's so interesting.
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So he sort of hooked his wife upwith one of the people in his
imagination.
That's crazy.
The Falcon Crest he isespecially validating, not that
I feel like I need it to bevalidated, but it makes me very
happy to know I wasn't off, likeI'm not looking too deeply into
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this.
Sometimes I'm like, girl,where's your mind going?
I be knowing stuff sometimes,though.
I really do.
So you remember when I when wewe discussed the entire season
of Falcon Crest, it felt verydifferent.
Like it was two seasons, theyjust sort of slammed them
together to see what wouldhappen.
There's a reason it felt sowonky like that.
The Nazi treasure storyline wassupposed to be a major plot
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point for season four.
Indiana Chase and the Vineyardsof Doom.
I thought this was gonna be awhole blockbuster type season.
However, CBS forced producers towrap up the story prematurely
due to viewers' backlash andcriticism.
For someone like me who has thisnot an obsession, but a
curiosity, you know, cost ofliving of a go, how they sort of
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lived in the time that camebefore us.
I often forget how close 1940was to 1980.
I I know we've talked about thisbefore, but it's not something
that's permeating in my mindbecause in my head, those are
the times are so vastlydifferent.
Like if you look at 1940, 1950,that's not crazy different.
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The 30s from the 40s isn't justcrazy different.
I mean, there's there's a littlebit more technology, but by and
large, people aren't their livesaren't drastically different
than their parents andgrandparents, you know what I'm
saying?
But the men and women who wouldhave served during World War II,
I mean, they would be late 50s,they're still young, they're
still young, strong, probably amajor part of the audience.
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They nobody want to see that.
That is so interesting.
So they abruptly cut it offabout episode 10, which didn't
really feel like Falcon Crest.
But I'm like, okay, whatever,let's go with it.
Apparently, I wasn't the onlyone who said who thought that
way.
This part is so upsetting to me.
This is probably one of theworst things I've ever read.
Oregon, how dare they?
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The producers of Falcon Crestconsidered killing off the
aviator Adonis.
At the end of season two, asRobert Foxworth was not happy
with the role, he complainedabout the series drifting away
from its original vineyardconcept.
He was convinced to stay afterhe was offered a chance to
direct some of the show'sepisodes.
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Here's the thing season two isright when they brought in
Jacqueline, so it makes mewonder if Julia's bullet was
supposed to hit Chaseoriginally.
I find this argument from him alittle bit premature.
I can't ever think of a time onFalcon Crest where it wasn't
about the wine, but I'm very,very curious to know now what
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the original like table readingwas, what the what the pitch was
when all the actors joined thecast.
I can't imagine it being anymore engulfed in grapes and
wine.
Who wants to watch people laborall day?
Nobody watches that for an hourunless you're building a house,
extreme home makeover orsomething like that.
But what are we going to betalking about?
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It how do I say this?
If the storyline isn't revolvingaround a vineyard, I really
don't know what else isrevolving around.
Absolutely, there's these soapyaspects, but season two, I don't
feel like they got away from theoriginal, the original vibe of
the show.
But by season four, I can kindof see where he would be coming
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from, but it doesn't matter.
Thank God they let him getbehind the camera.
I'd actually like some more teaon him.
I think I'm gonna look into hima little bit more if I have
already lived in Houston, but asfine as he is to me, I feel like
he might have been a little bitdifficult to work with.
He gives off that vibe, not asin like hateful or mean or
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anything, but just superserious.
He's one of those thespians.
Thespians, they take the craftsuper, super serious.
Okay, this next part oh, we mmmjust listen.
Analysia, Melissa, hoped thewriters would have her character
have an affair with Chase.
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How you gonna be a bad girl onand off the camera?
Have an affair with your babydaddy's daddy?
I get it because it's Chase D.
Bertie, but part of me is like,girl, that's scandalous.
But also, girl, girl, can youimagine?
There's no coming back from thatthough.
There's no reconciliation.
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Hook up with the random cousin,that's fine.
Hook up with his best friend,but his daddy, girl, she was out
here.
I wonder what her what herthoughts were behind well, no, I
don't wonder what her thoughtsare.
I know exactly what her thoughtswere, and I'm here for it, girl.
William R.
Moses was the first choice forLance Cumpson.
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Girl, bye.
Can you imagine Cole's broodingrump, rump, rump face as Lance
uh biddi biddy bidi cumpson?
I don't see it happening.
All right, I'm gonna save therest for a little bit later
because I need to look into oneof the shows they're they're
telling me about.
But thank you so much.
If you guys have any tea or anytidbits you think I might be
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interested in, hit your girl up.
If you're listening to this onyour mobile device, you can
check the show notes and send mea text.
Now I can't respond to the textvia a text, but I will always
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You can also reach out to me thenew old-fashioned way via email
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gmail.com.
Love hearing from you, and Ipromise I will write you back
real, real good.
Oh man.
I I can't shake it.
Gosh.
I would have hated.
I think I probably might havestarted stopped watching.
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If I'm being so I'm so dramatic.
Give me a break, I'm a Leo.
But if he had gotten shot downand died at the end of season
two, I would have been terriblyupset.
Also, having him hook up withhis son's wife, baby mother is
diabolical.
But so is having your babysister hook up with your baby
daddy.
Let's jump into this episode ofDallas, shall we?
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I love it when at the beginningof one season they wrap up the
previous season's storyline, anysort of loose ends.
Let's just get rid of this so wecan start fresh, or let's build
upon it.
In the case of the wonderfuljuggernaut that is Dallas, we
need to figure out what happenedto Badgirl Kristen.
Did she plummet to her deathaccidentally, or was she shoved
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over the side of a very lowbalcony by none other than J.
R.
Yue?
I myself personally didn't feellike JR was a killer, but
accidents happen.
Also, that railing was so dumblow, it's like it would hit you
at the shins.
You got too close, you're boundto flip over that anyway.
That's neither here nor there.
At the top of the episode, wesee a land yacht of biblical
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proportions.
It's not just a big old longLincoln, it's a big old long
Lincoln limousine in a silverbullet color.
Now, I had the audacity, ladiesand gentlemen, to fix my mouth
to say, gee, I guess there wereonly seven or eight colors in
the 80s.
And the right side of my brainor the Lord or somebody said,
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Jet, what is that?
What is that millennial graycolor?
Gray tan, gray tan.
I'm like, okay, I get it, I getit, I get it.
Every era has this look aboutit, it's very distinctive.
Uh yeah, they love that sort oforange or silver, deep chocolate
brown, those sort of colors forcars back in the day.
You don't see them as much.
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You don't see very many mustardyellow cars, neither here nor
there.
The limousine is not J.R.
Ewing like I thought.
It is Swell and Ewing, her newboo, and his daddy.
These men are being soprotective, so wonderful with
this very delicate woman in thistime.
Now you gotta think about whereSuelen's coming from.
She has had her name splashedall over the tabloids, all over
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the front page, all over Dallas,Texas.
Accused of shooting her husband,who, I mean, by and large,
deserved it.
Only to be not necessarilyacquitted because she was never
formally charged.
But you have to kind of wonderif the rumor mill in Dallas is
still like, well, I think sheshot him, because nobody else
knows that Kristen shot himother than a jowl-faced sheriff
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at this point.
Or at least he knows there wassome sort of confession,
something to that effect.
She's been through the ringer,is what I'm trying to point out.
She's seen it all, she's done itall, she finally gave up on
life.
I'm just gonna be a mother, onlyto have her paramour come back
from the dead.
She saw an opportunity, she tookit, ran away to San Angelo, had
her sister-in-law, who's neverbeen super cool with her, kidnap
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her son, bring the baby out toher.
Only to get a visit from hercurrent cheating lying husband,
not just to woo her back, notjust to threaten her with
divorce and and whatever else,but to announce to her that her
baby sister, who he knocked upallegedly, died night previous.
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I can't even imagine what thiswoman is going through.
Somebody wrote the heck out ofSue Ellen.
I have never, not for one momentbeen disappointed.
You just escaped a toxicmarriage.
You escaped with your baby.
You happen to fall into the armsof a man who's just as, if not
more powerful, than the man youwere married to.
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You should be able to take adeep breath, but no.
Just realize your baby sister,who you probably love and hate
equal parts, has died.
So as Sue Ellen and um, let'scall them Daddy Dustin and
Dustin, Dusty, are walking intothe courthouse.
Sue Ellen is apologizing fordragging them all the way from
San Angelo.
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I don't know why Dallas insistson pretending like San Angelo is
800 miles from Dallas.
It's not that far.
It's not that far.
But she feels bad, and they'relike, Don't worry, girl,
absolutely, we're gonna be herefor you.
How's everything going with thefuneral planning?
Well, she says, My mama wantsKristen buried in Albuquerque.
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Mama is so beside herself, she'sprobably sedated.
I know they used to sedate womenquite a bit back in the day.
Her doctor says she can't flyout, they're gonna bury her in
Albuquerque.
Swell and take the baby to theservice.
She wants to be on the planewith her.
It is what it is.
So she's she's walking into thecourtroom thinking about her
dead sister, about to hear somedetails.
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And the first thing she hearswhen the door is open is a very
professional, probablyHarvard-trained lawyer saying,
Now you said she was high as akite.
What does that mean?
Come on, y'all.
It's obviously JR on the stand.
So Cliff had already gone on thestand and he he gave his
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rendition of what happened.
I showed up, I saw Kristen inthe pool.
She was already dead.
I jumped in to save her, saysCliff.
Yeah, that's about it.
They ask if JR was there.
He goes, Yeah, he was upstairs.
They go, Well, who called theambulance?
Cliff says, I called theambulance.
There was a pool, there's aphone by the pool.
I jumped out, called theambulance.
Was JR downstairs by that point?
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Yes, he was.
So JR is on the stand and hesays, Kristen showed up to the
house and she looked a hot mess.
He said, Now she usually wasvery, you know, she was a
fashion icon.
She usually had her stufftogether, but she looked run
over.
I don't know what was going on.
She looked disheveled andwhatnot.
Going on, she was acting crazy.
And the lawyer says, Well, youyou went to answer the phone.
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He goes, Yeah, well, you know,my my wife ran off with my son.
It's no secret that my wife wasrun off and left me.
He was probably only saying thatpart because Suewan just walked
in with her new boo and hisdaddy.
The judge is like, dude, stay ontopic.
What's that got to do withanything?
JR's point is, well, I didn'tcare what she was doing because
I was expecting a phone callabout my kids.
So yeah, I mean, I didn't sayshe was gonna kill him, I just
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said she looked crazy.
Lawyer asked if if he tozzledwith her, if anything happened.
He's like, no, next time I sawher, she was face down on the
pool.
Cliff Barnes was down there withher.
He then throws in the the littlecaveat that he went and took
polygraph tests.
Now, this is not admissible incourt, so the judge tells the
jury to strike that from therecord, but it doesn't matter,
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the damage is done.
Cliff knows what he just did,the leather lawyer guy knows
what he just did.
By putting that statement outthere that no, I didn't tell so
with her, and I even passed apolygraph test that that'll
prove that I didn't, the seed isalready planted.
So people are going to look atyou in a more favorable light,
even if they're not supposed toremember you said that.
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So the toxicology guy comes out,and the long and short of it is
that he feels like she was on PBPCP.
Yeah.
Jen Angel dust in her innersystem.
He goes on to say that thisprobably caused a hallucination.
People were known at this timeto go jumping off the side of
buildings and whatnot.
It can make you depressed.
All this, so it he says that itwas an accident.
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This girl tripped over abalcony, she hit her head on the
side of the pool, fell into thepool, and drowned, but she was
unconscious.
Pam is hearing this for thefirst time, not loving it.
Bobby's hearing it.
He seems to be dealing with it alittle bit better.
But Sue in hearing this is it'sjust is a kick in the diaphragm.
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It hurts real, real, real bad.
It's just absolutely devastatingin every way.
I guess the whole point of thisis that Cliff and JR are no
longer pointing the finger ateach other, although I get the
feeling JR is not telling 100%the truth because he was he was
still holding his bourbon whenCliff was like, help, help, he's
looking up at him.
He was holding his bourbon.
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It reminds me of that scene inComing to America where Eddie
Murphy and Arsenio Hall beat thecrap out of Samuel L.
Jackson for trying to robMcDowell's.
And Jerry Curl Daryl comes over.
He was like, Yeah, I would havehelped both of y'all, but you
know, I have I had a milkshakein my hand.
Something like that.
Like J.R.
couldn't jump in the pool.
He's like, man, I had to answerthe phone and I was holding a
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glass of bourbon.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, I couldn't help.
That clears that storyline outof the way a little bit, and it
frees up the inevitable showdownbetween J.R.
and Sue Ellen.
She's having a real, real roughtime.
No matter how slutty her littlesister was, that's still your
little sister.
Cliff can't catch a break.
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So he leaves the courtproceedings.
Okay, I'm not going to jail.
JR's not going to jail.
It's pretty sucks that she died,but I got a job to attend to.
So he goes over to West Starbecause he was promised a job if
he could nail JR to the cross.
Now he did everything in hispower, and unbeknownst to him,
sweet little sister Afton hadhim drugged so that JR could get
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his hands on the court findings,blaze, blaze.
So Cliff goes to Westar to meetwith JR's banker dude friend,
whose name escapes me at themoment.
Guy tells him in not so manyterms, I offered you a job.
Yes, I offered you a job when Ithought you could bring JR down,
but you didn't.
And quite frankly, I'm not finnapay you to be a loser on my
payroll.
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He's harsh, but he's real.
Cliff is like, well, somebody, Idon't know who, gave JR all of
the evidence.
So, I mean, how is that myfault?
How is that my fault?
Even his little brother thinkshe did all these things.
How is this my problem?
Guys like, I don't know what totell you, homie, but it's not my
problem.
And you're not my problem.
You're definitely not on mypayroll.
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So, good day, sir.
Mr.
Wendell, that's his name.
Mr.
Wendell still has a grudge.
I'm glad that they're bringinghim back up because I it's not
like I had forgotten about him,but it what more could he do?
It seems he still has a um has abone to pick with JR.
We're only two episodes intothis season.
I can only imagine what that'sgonna turn into.
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The bulk of this episode isabout Suelen and JR.
So JR is in Dallas putting allthings in motion.
His only goal is to snatch thatbaby back.
It don't even really seem likehe cares about Sue Ellen one way
or another.
Plus, word's already out on thestreet.
Women are showing up to his jobto interview for secretary jobs,
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only like they want to sleepwith him.
He's already got thatreputation.
He don't really care aboutSwellin, but don't take my son.
I bet it's more of a possessionthing.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not a oh, I'm so in love, Ican't live without my kid.
I'm sure that's some of it.
But it's it's more of a he ismine, he belongs to me, and you
can't have what belongs to me.
He's willing to go to greatlengths to get the kid back.
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Even hiring a PI.
Now, the PI is a man I've seen amillion times before.
I've never seen him this young.
I'm not gonna look up his name,but I wanted to talk really
quickly about the lawyer on thisepisode, an actor by the name of
Lane Smith.
I know you've seen he was in umHappy Gilmore.
No, was he in Happy Gilmore?
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He was in the Mighty Ducks, hewas the other lawyer in my
cousin Vinny.
He's always either a lawyer, amayor, or a villain.
His IMBD reads like villain,villain, super villain, mayor,
lawyer, lawyer, bad lawyer,racist lawyer, super villain,
super racist mayor, etc.
etc.
You can see his face, and you'llbe like, oh, that's exactly
right.
I think he's also funny.
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He played Richard Nixon once ortwice and some other stuff.
Anyway, I I saw him andimmediately thought, dang, I
don't think I've ever not seenyou in the exact same role.
But Hollywood's a small town,you know?
You can be typecast.
Typecast people get paid.
Okay, it's also very clear thatthey're building up this whole
Pam needs a baby and a babyquick thing.
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She's chilling poolside withBobby, and she's she's just kind
of out of it.
She almost seems like she's highor something.
She's not drinking any mommyjuice.
I don't see anything around her,but she is so depressed about
this here baby.
Bobby says, and babe, why don'tyou take like a year off?
We'll get all the best doctors,we'll just really focus on your
womb and all your your care.
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And let's see about gettingpregnant.
She's like, dude, I cannot evenI can't even fathom the thought
of being three months pregnantand losing another baby.
I refuse to do it.
But it's starting to weighreally heavily on her.
So they're clearly setting thisup for something.
And I mean, this isn't, I mean,it's not, it didn't take a
rocket scientist.
I believe Jesse Metcalf.
I I'm assuming that's Bobby andPam's son.
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I'm assuming.
I know he's in the New Dallas,which I've never seen, but he's
on there.
He's dark-headed like them.
I'm assuming that's who that is.
We'll see how he gets here, oneway or another.
Back to Sue Ellen and them.
Unbeknownst to Sue Ellen, thereis a P.I.
watching her every single moveat the Sacred Cross in San
Angelo, Texas.
Unbeknownst to her, but notnecessarily unbeknownst to Dusty
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and Dusty's daddy.
They're on to JR.
Like I said, they are just asrich, they are just as powerful,
they have just as manyresources, and they're not
afraid to use them.
JR, on the other hand, is notgoing to rest.
He's on his Chris Jenner, and hethinks, okay, what other woman
can I exploit?
None other than his secondfavorite somebody's sister to
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sleep with.
Singer Afton.
Yes, that's right.
Afton is getting around.
She is so indebted to andgrateful to have J.R.
Ewing in her life.
After all, he gave her a singingcareer.
She got a used apartment.
She is a lounge singerextraordinaire.
I guess she's blowing up inDallas.
It doesn't seem like it.
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But she's comfortablenonetheless.
So he's like, hey, uh, you thinkyou can make me feel better,
honey?
Honestly, I think the onlyreason the scene is in here is
so that the audience can bereminded that Afton was the one
who woke up Cliff, knocked himout, or whatever, so that those
papers appeared in JR's lap.
JR is really, he is verydepressed in this scene.
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This seems to be one of thefirst times I can recall seeing
him be vulnerable.
He misses the baby.
It seems like in this scene he'sactually thinking about that.
I still feel like it's more of apossession thing, like you're
just not gonna get one over onme.
That's my baby.
But he goes over with theintention of hooking up with
Afton, only he gets sodepressed.
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In doing so, he reminds theaudience how all of these things
came to pass, how he is not inprison during time, and um, why
Cliff Barnes is not hired overat Weststar.
He even gets so depressed thathe ends up calling Ellie.
So we get to see Ellie for thefirst time, and she's still in
Paris.
Ugh, so they're working throughthe Jim Davis thing best they
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can.
Jock is always in another room.
He's busy, he's doing the XYZ,he's still very much alive, just
not on camera.
Let me see if I can speed thisup just a little bit.
When Sue Lynn gets back to SanAngelo, she's been cooped up in
this yacht-sized limousine forabout two, two and a half hours.
She needs some fresh air, sheneeds to get away.
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She she flies out of the carjust so she can have a moment to
herself.
Dusty comes over and she'stalking about Kristen, how their
mother raised them to be whothey are.
She wanted the best for them.
She was known as Sue Ellen'slittle sister until she got to
high school and then she becameher own thing.
She's basically remembering howsmart and how brilliant this
young girl became, and she'sstarting to think a little bit
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more about her own mother andhow she conditioned them to be
women who went after these sortsof men.
Sue Ellen's life has not turnedout the best.
From the outside looking in, ifyou if you compare it to
Kristen, yes, she's alive, yes,she's not on drugs, but she's an
alcoholic.
She has to medicate the pain ina totally different way.
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But she, you know, she read allthe books, she did all the
pageants, she took all the charmschool classes, she aligned
herself with the best men, shemaintained her beauty, her trim
figure, as she says, only to endup fleeing like a thief in the
night to get away from thatlife, to run full throttle away
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from it.
Her sister sort of did the samething, and look how she ended up
woke up dead.
It's not funny, I'm sorry.
But it's that that weird sort ofthing where you can love
somebody and and see the goodparts of them, and it's
sometimes you don't see it untilafter the fact.
Which brings me to the name ofthis episode.
Gone but not forgotten implieswell, it implies a little bit of
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tenderness, and I suppose thetenderness towards Kristen this
episode is that she is gone.
Sue Wellen knows if she maybeshe had a baby, maybe she
didn't.
They're still not really talkingabout that, but uh I tend to
believe she did because she toldmore than one person, she told
the Not Slanding cast that shewas pregnant, so it seems as if
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Suelen is mourning who she couldhave been, and she's having this
empathy towards her because ofwhere Sue Ellen is at this point
in her life.
Like I get it, girl.
I mean, that could have been me.
Could have been me, but thattheir mom really is a villain in
us, if you think about it.
You trained your girls up to bea good wife, and that's it.
I I can't even really blame her.
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Even as that's those words comeout of my mouth, I realize
that's more of a modern thought.
I understand that this she wouldhave been raising them in the in
the 60s and 70s.
We all know things aren'texactly how they are now.
So I get it, but it's all italso really, really sucks.
So later on in the episode, Pamis absolutely beside herself.
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She missed that baby so bad.
She drives down to St.
Angelo, and like I said, shewhen she was sitting by the
pool, she seemed like she was ina trance.
She does not seem to bedrinking, but she's definitely
out of it.
She's not telling people she'sleaving, she's not really
communicating as much.
She is definitely in this weirdfunk.
Sue Ellen is very happy to seeher.
So they're sitting poolside,feeding baby John Ross.
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He's not eating grapes today,but he is eating fruit.
That kid understands you got tokeep your throat moist so that
you don't get sick.
I get it.
He is probably enjoying the lastpiece of naturally organic fruit
in the United States of Americathat grew without having to put
a sticker on it.
And they're they're having agood old time when all of a
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sudden a helicopter comesfloating down.
A helicopter, people.
I thought it was JR.
No, it's Bobby.
Bob's pissed.
Like, what are you doing here,Pam?
She's sitting there shocked,like, what are you what are you
doing here?
He goes, I went to, I'm lookingfor you.
You ain't calling, you ain'tpicking up the phone.
Why didn't you tell anybody youwere coming to St.
Angelo?
She said, Well, damn, I'll behome by dinner.
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That's not what I asked.
Why didn't you let anybody knowyou was leaving?
She's basically like, I thoughtI did.
I don't know why I did it.
Hey, I'm gonna go take this babyupstairs, put him to sleep.
She's still in this weird sortof trance, which leaves Bobby
and Sue Ellen, who's stillwearing her nylon's pool side,
by the way.
It's also weird that nobody'sfreaked out by being in a
swimming pool after they'vefound a dead body in the pool.
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Anyway, Bobby starts to rip intoSue Ellen a little bit.
Like, I wish you hadn't broughtmy wife into this.
You know, she did a B E with thekid.
How is that supposed to foster ahealthy marriage, healthy
relationship?
Sue Wellin's like, first off, itwasn't a B and E.
She just took the kid.
She already lived there, shedidn't break in anywhere.
But I needed my baby.
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You know my baby's better offwith me than he is with your
brother.
Bobby can't really argue that,but nonetheless, he's none too
pleased that his wife has beeninvolved in this.
It's like Sue Ellen, you knowhow ugly, nasty this is about to
get.
She's like, oh well, bring iton.
She can say bring it on withfull confidence because she has
a very powerful family behindher.
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She sends JR a preliminaryhearing situationship, whatever
it's called.
She wants alimony and she wantscustody of the baby.
His plan was to make her lookbad, to make her look
irresponsible.
A drunken woman who didn't wantthe baby ends up stealing them.
Now she's willing, she's messingwith this other man, basically
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using a little sexism in hisfavor.
How does this look?
Oh, a mother running off withanother man and a baby?
That's not a responsible woman.
But the clock is is windingdown.
He it's getting harder andharder to do that with the sort
of support that she has.
But you can't count out JR.
By episode's end, Sue Lynn hopson a helicopter at the the
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almost call it the GoldenCorral, the Golden Ranch.
What the heck is it called?
The Sacred Cross in San Angelo.
And she's flying to DF, no, notDFW.
She's flying out to Loveville inDallas so that she can fly out
to Albuquerque.
That does seem a little bitbackwards, but that's kind of
how things work.
Californians probably understandthis better than most, where you
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might have to go south to gonorth.
I know in Texas you gotta flyeast to go west.
It's it's a weird thing.
She needs to helicopter east tofly out to Albuquerque.
Well, the P.I.
has picked up on that becausehe's watching her every move,
and plus, it's a big helicopter.
Dusty Daddy, Daddy Dusty wishesher well.
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You be safe, you be careful.
Dusty wishes her well.
She makes it to Lovefield, noproblem.
But as soon as she's walkingaround with the baby, two bohos
come up to her and they snatchJohn Ross.
One of the bohos distracts herjust very briefly.
Mrs.
Ewing, hey, I gotta ask you.
And then he covers her mouth andyoinks her off to the side.
The other one picks up the babyand briskly walks off as to not
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alarm John Ross Ewing III.
He doesn't get very far beforehe is quickly surrounded by a
bunch of roughneck cow handsready to stomp him out.
He don't want no smoke.
He really doesn't.
So he gently hands over thebaby.
Turns out that's Dusty and hisdaddy.
They they could smell somethingwasn't right.
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You think they're gonna let thiswoman and her vulnerable child
get on a plane in the middle ofnowhere and fly off to a funeral
while she's grieving and let herdo it all by herself?
Are you crazy?
Absolutely not.
They protect their own.
They are establishing, listen,this is the line in the sand.
We ain't scared of you, JR.
We got time.
We don't have time, we're gonnamake time.
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And it is so powerful, it is socute that Dusty is still in his
four dump things, his braces.
He don't care.
He's gonna hop after his woman.
If he got the limp to get her,that's what he's gonna do.
I respect it.
That's a man.
And his daddy don't play either.
And shout out to the roughneckcowboys who are beating down
people willy-nilly in the middleof an airport.
They don't show the beat down,but I assure you it happens.
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Also, I recognize one of theseguys as an extra on the yellow
rose.
He literally walked off the statand just walked to Southern.
JR's watching this whole thingunfold.
He's disappointed.
Now Dusty's gonna get on theplane with her along with the
Cowboys, and they're all gonnafly to Albuquerque just in case
JR wants to pull another stunt.
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I like it.
I like it a lot.
Very enjoyable episode, but whatwould you call this?
Back in my day, we'd have afterschool special sometimes, or a
very it wasn't after schoolspecial, it was more like a very
special episode.
This feels like they wanted todo that, but I think the reality
is we just we need to move onfrom Chris and let's go ahead
and grieve her.
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Let's set up this us versus themwith JR and the Sacred Cross
people.
Let's make sure the audienceremembers that Afton set up
Cliff, and let's also establishthat Pam wants a baby real, real
bad.
In the bit player department,Donna Culver is settling into
her role as Ray Krebs' wife.
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He's trying to buy her a saddle,not just any saddle, a silver
embossed saddle.
I don't know if I've ever seenthat or not.
My aunt and uncle used to havehorses, and I do recall going to
like the feed stores and thingswith them, and there was this
big, super life-size plastichorse.
I thought it was just a prop,but apparently that's so people
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can try their saddles out.
You sling it over it, then youcan sit on it.
I am so mad that nobody let mesit on that horse.
I was riding the littlecarousels outside, but I didn't
never see any kids on it.
I didn't realize it was a prop.
I'm a little bit upset.
I might go to boot barn, see ifthey got one.
I ain't climbing on no plastichorse, not today, especially not
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in these 17 pajamas.
Anyhow, Lucy and Donna Culverare bonding over the fact that
they are with men who have sortof an aversion to money.
Like, why can't you just be richand pretty and marry somebody?
Why is it such a big deal?
Why does the man have to earnthe money?
And Lucy's like, I know, right?
Why can't they respect us aswealthy heiresses or people who
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inherited?
You know what I'm saying?
Why can't we just be rich?
Donna's like, I know, I know,but listen, girl, if you want
Mitch, don't give up.
See, I liked Ray when he waswhen he was young and fun and
country dumb.
He's just sitting out breathingin calf fumes, kicking up dust.
That's all he wanted to do.
Now he thinks he's a wheeler anddealer because his last name is
Ewe.
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She's not adjusting to Raystarting to come into money.
Lucy's not adjusting to Mitch toMitch's aversion of money.
So they come together andthey're like, okay, we're just
gonna be rich, we're gonna befabulous, and we're gonna stand
by our men.
I can't say that I'm notinterested in this story, but
I'm actually ugh.
It's it's not how do I say this?
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Mitch and Lucy has been too muchback and forth, forth and back.
Whatever happens, happens.
I I'm betting money, she's gonnahave a new boosky in no time.
But when it comes to DonnaCulver, I I really do want to
see how this pans out as Raycontinues to expand in the
business world a little bitmore.
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He's obviously gonna be takingover for Jock because we know
Jock ain't here.
I wonder how long that's gonnalast, though.
Because she she she handled thefact that he got the$3 million
out.
She took that well.
She's even okay with him buyingher the super fancy saddle.
They actually ran into PunkAnderson while they were there.
He was buying a new bolo tie ina suit, and he's telling her
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that her man is about to berich, rich.
They're gonna expand thosehouses in Lubbock.
They're so popular, they'regonna up the price by$30,000.
So seems like money's gonna keeprolling in, and he's gonna be
okay.
Seems to me like Donna's alittle bit uncomfortable with
money, too.
After all, she was married to awealthy man who handled all the
finances, and she just got tokind of she got to sit at his
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feet and live his life withoutactually handling the money.
So I'm curious to see how sheand Ray navigate this.
She doesn't seem like she wouldknow what to do with millions
and millions, but I'm sure shehas a handler or something.
Well, all right, guys.
Thank you so much for joining metoday.
Help me name this this what isthis genre?
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Is this um burying a baddieepisode?
Is this um life lessons of thegrown and sexy episode?
What sort of this feels like itshould be a special because it's
very reflective.
Is it just a different way torecap?
Text me in the show notes, letme know what you think, or you
can reach me via email atsoaplore podcast at gmail.com.
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That's s-o-a-p-l-o-r-eP-O-D-C-A-S-T at gmail.com.
Join me next time as we jumpback into some vintage primetime
soap opery.
In the meantime, in betweentime, keep your head on a
swivel.
Don't ever go to the airportwithout a posse of rowdy,
rough-necked cowboys, just incase somebody wants to snatch
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you up.
Stay hydrated, stay moisturized,mind your own business, and keep
all of your drama on TV.
Mikey to young boys and girls.
Welcome and welcome back toStoke Lord, the official
gathering players for new news,analysis, and LG diehai fans of
the golden age of primetime.
I'm your host, Jess will bedoing a review of the cookie
study of Primetime Storylinefrom 1981.
So whether you're going to gothrough today's adaptive boys
talking to the chronicle outsideor outside, nobody has no
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questions, suggestions, or quitetimes in the next 25 to 35
minutes.
Everyone else in World Clarkwill be quite quiet or
absolutely kicked out because weare watching our door.
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Hello, corners.
Welcome and welcome back toanother fun building of
snowboard.
I hope your day is shaping upwell.
Ooh, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm over here fist fightingsleep, almost to the point with
this feels unnatural.
Kind of rewound my day back andwas like, did somebody slip me
something?
I don't think that's it.
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I think it's just the Embermonths.
It is a more relaxing time, sortof.
Got that cozy fun feeling.
But yeah, the time has come forus to watch Dallas.
This episode is it'sinteresting.
And I hope by end by the end ofthe episode, you guys can help
me come up with the name forthis.
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Go ahead and pour yourself offsomething bubbly and bright as
we jump into season five,episode two of Dallas, gone but
not forgotten.
Before we get into today'sepisode, I want to touch on this
piece of fan mail I got.
Shout out to you, Oregon.
Really interesting tidbits and apiece of information that was
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all was so disturbing, I gotreally upset.
Also, I think I know why I'm sosleepy.
Dynasty.
That's why Dynasty made me doit.
As we speak, your girl is in thefinest pair of satin pajamas
Amazon gift cards could buy.
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I am silky, I'm chilling on mybed with the warmest blanket.
Got my can of non-alcoholicchampagne.
It's just something aboutlotioning up, putting on some
silk.
Well, they're not silk, they'resatin, you know what I'm saying?
My budget calls for satin, butyou know, I'm getting there.
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Satin PJs, I feel real regal.
I feel wonderful.
I just feel a little bit toorelaxed.
So I I may need to put onsomething else, a stiffer shirt
or something, so that I can getthrough this.
But let me read y'all thislittle this little tidbit.
Thank you, Oregon, for this.
I meant to talk about this onthe Knott's Landing episode and
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the Falcon Crest episode, justtime got away from me.
Wasn't able to do so.
But apparently, John Plaschette,aka Richard Avery, is married
currently to Dallas and Knott'sLanding series creator, David
Jacobs ex-wife Lynn.
So this woman was once upon atime, Lynn Jacobs.
She ends up marrying JohnPlaschette.
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How would you feel about that?
Think of it this way.
Think of it this way.
Yes, it's probably upsetting.
Now, I don't know thecircumstances of them being
together.
If you know she was divorced andthen she looks over her shoulder
and like, hey, you're kind ofcute, and things happen.
I don't really know.
But the ex-husband has to feel alittle bit of a way.
If I were him, I definitelywould.
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But also, how would you feel ifyou were this writer?
You had this beautifulbrainchild about a story about
people in varying stages in amarriage.
There's a European show aboutit, it works.
You kind of tweak it forAmerican audiences, and what do
you know?
It's a smash hit.
Hell, 40 years later, there'sgonna be some random woman
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reviewing this stuff on the onsomething called a podcast.
It's it's it's amazing.
It has a legacy.
Part of that legacy is acharacter named Richard Avery,
which you helped create, only tohave that dude marry your
ex-wife.
Did you write that in?
I thought that was sointeresting considering what the
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tone and texture is for Nod'sLanding and understanding that
the what it was based off of.
I wonder if the creator, youknow, maybe he was going through
it, him and his wife are goingthrough that.
You sprinkle a little bit ofthat into a storyline, whatever
the creative control is for theuh the creators, I'm not really
sure, but that's so interesting.
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So he sort of hooked his wife upwith one of the people in his
imagination.
That's crazy.
The Falcon Crest he isespecially validating, not that
I feel like I need it to bevalidated, but it makes me very
happy to know I wasn't off, likeI'm not looking too deeply into
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this.
Sometimes I'm like, girl,where's your mind going?
I be knowing stuff sometimes,though.
I really do.
So you remember when I when wewe discussed the entire season
of Falcon Crest, it felt verydifferent.
Like it was two seasons, theyjust sort of slammed them
together to see what wouldhappen.
There's a reason it felt sowonky like that.
The Nazi treasure storyline wassupposed to be a major plot
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point for season four.
Indiana Chase and the Vineyardsof Doom.
I thought this was gonna be awhole blockbuster type season.
However, CBS forced producers towrap up the story prematurely
due to viewers' backlash andcriticism.
For someone like me who has thisnot an obsession, but a
curiosity, you know, cost ofliving of a go, how they sort of
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lived in the time that camebefore us.
I often forget how close 1940was to 1980.
I I know we've talked about thisbefore, but it's not something
that's permeating in my mindbecause in my head, those are
the times are so vastlydifferent.
Like if you look at 1940, 1950,that's not crazy different.
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The 30s from the 40s isn't justcrazy different.
I mean, there's there's a littlebit more technology, but by and
large, people aren't their livesaren't drastically different
than their parents andgrandparents, you know what I'm
saying?
But the men and women who wouldhave served during World War II,
I mean, they would be late 50s,they're still young, they're
still young, strong, probably amajor part of the audience.
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They nobody want to see that.
That is so interesting.
So they abruptly cut it offabout episode 10, which didn't
really feel like Falcon Crest.
But I'm like, okay, whatever,let's go with it.
Apparently, I wasn't the onlyone who said who thought that
way.
This part is so upsetting to me.
This is probably one of theworst things I've ever read.
Oregon, how dare they?
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The producers of Falcon Crestconsidered killing off the
aviator Adonis.
At the end of season two, asRobert Foxworth was not happy
with the role, he complainedabout the series drifting away
from its original vineyardconcept.
He was convinced to stay afterhe was offered a chance to
direct some of the show'sepisodes.
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Here's the thing season two isright when they brought in
Jacqueline, so it makes mewonder if Julia's bullet was
supposed to hit Chaseoriginally.
I find this argument from him alittle bit premature.
I can't ever think of a time onFalcon Crest where it wasn't
about the wine, but I'm very,very curious to know now what
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the original like table readingwas, what the what the pitch was
when all the actors joined thecast.
I can't imagine it being anymore engulfed in grapes and
wine.
Who wants to watch people laborall day?
Nobody watches that for an hourunless you're building a house,
extreme home makeover orsomething like that.
But what are we going to betalking about?
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It how do I say this?
If the storyline isn't revolvingaround a vineyard, I really
don't know what else isrevolving around.
Absolutely, there's these soapyaspects, but season two, I don't
feel like they got away from theoriginal, the original vibe of
the show.
But by season four, I can kindof see where he would be coming
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from, but it doesn't matter.
Thank God they let him getbehind the camera.
I'd actually like some more teaon him.
I think I'm gonna look into hima little bit more if I have
already lived in Houston, but asfine as he is to me, I feel like
he might have been a little bitdifficult to work with.
He gives off that vibe, not asin like hateful or mean or
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anything, but just superserious.
He's one of those thespians.
Thespians, they take the craftsuper, super serious.
Okay, this next part oh, we mmmjust listen.
Analysia, Melissa, hoped thewriters would have her character
have an affair with Chase.
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How you gonna be a bad girl onand off the camera?
Have an affair with your babydaddy's daddy?
I get it because it's Chase D.
Bertie, but part of me is like,girl, that's scandalous.
But also, girl, girl, can youimagine?
There's no coming back from thatthough.
There's no reconciliation.
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Hook up with the random cousin,that's fine.
Hook up with his best friend,but his daddy, girl, she was out
here.
I wonder what her what herthoughts were behind well, no, I
don't wonder what her thoughtsare.
I know exactly what her thoughtswere, and I'm here for it, girl.
William R.
Moses was the first choice forLance Cumpson.
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Girl, bye.
Can you imagine Cole's broodingrump, rump, rump face as Lance
uh biddi biddy bidi cumpson?
I don't see it happening.
All right, I'm gonna save therest for a little bit later
because I need to look into oneof the shows they're they're
telling me about.
But thank you so much.
If you guys have any tea or anytidbits you think I might be
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interested in, hit your girl up.
If you're listening to this onyour mobile device, you can
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real, real good.
Oh man.
I I can't shake it.
Gosh.
I would have hated.
I think I probably might havestarted stopped watching.
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If I'm being so I'm so dramatic.
Give me a break, I'm a Leo.
But if he had gotten shot downand died at the end of season
two, I would have been terriblyupset.
Also, having him hook up withhis son's wife, baby mother is
diabolical.
But so is having your babysister hook up with your baby
daddy.
Let's jump into this episode ofDallas, shall we?
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I love it when at the beginningof one season they wrap up the
previous season's storyline, anysort of loose ends.
Let's just get rid of this so wecan start fresh, or let's build
upon it.
In the case of the wonderfuljuggernaut that is Dallas, we
need to figure out what happenedto Badgirl Kristen.
Did she plummet to her deathaccidentally, or was she shoved
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over the side of a very lowbalcony by none other than J.
R.
Yue?
I myself personally didn't feellike JR was a killer, but
accidents happen.
Also, that railing was so dumblow, it's like it would hit you
at the shins.
You got too close, you're boundto flip over that anyway.
That's neither here nor there.
At the top of the episode, wesee a land yacht of biblical
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proportions.
It's not just a big old longLincoln, it's a big old long
Lincoln limousine in a silverbullet color.
Now, I had the audacity, ladiesand gentlemen, to fix my mouth
to say, gee, I guess there wereonly seven or eight colors in
the 80s.
And the right side of my brainor the Lord or somebody said,
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Jet, what is that?
What is that millennial graycolor?
Gray tan, gray tan.
I'm like, okay, I get it, I getit, I get it.
Every era has this look aboutit, it's very distinctive.
Uh yeah, they love that sort oforange or silver, deep chocolate
brown, those sort of colors forcars back in the day.
You don't see them as much.
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You don't see very many mustardyellow cars, neither here nor
there.
The limousine is not J.R.
Ewing like I thought.
It is Swell and Ewing, her newboo, and his daddy.
These men are being soprotective, so wonderful with
this very delicate woman in thistime.
Now you gotta think about whereSuelen's coming from.
She has had her name splashedall over the tabloids, all over
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the front page, all over Dallas,Texas.
Accused of shooting her husband,who, I mean, by and large,
deserved it.
Only to be not necessarilyacquitted because she was never
formally charged.
But you have to kind of wonderif the rumor mill in Dallas is
still like, well, I think sheshot him, because nobody else
knows that Kristen shot himother than a jowl-faced sheriff
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at this point.
Or at least he knows there wassome sort of confession,
something to that effect.
She's been through the ringer,is what I'm trying to point out.
She's seen it all, she's done itall, she finally gave up on
life.
I'm just gonna be a mother, onlyto have her paramour come back
from the dead.
She saw an opportunity, she tookit, ran away to San Angelo, had
her sister-in-law, who's neverbeen super cool with her, kidnap
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her son, bring the baby out toher.
Only to get a visit from hercurrent cheating lying husband,
not just to woo her back, notjust to threaten her with
divorce and and whatever else,but to announce to her that her
baby sister, who he knocked upallegedly, died night previous.
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I can't even imagine what thiswoman is going through.
Somebody wrote the heck out ofSue Ellen.
I have never, not for one momentbeen disappointed.
You just escaped a toxicmarriage.
You escaped with your baby.
You happen to fall into the armsof a man who's just as, if not
more powerful, than the man youwere married to.
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You should be able to take adeep breath, but no.
Just realize your baby sister,who you probably love and hate
equal parts, has died.
So as Sue Ellen and um, let'scall them Daddy Dustin and
Dustin, Dusty, are walking intothe courthouse.
Sue Ellen is apologizing fordragging them all the way from
San Angelo.
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I don't know why Dallas insistson pretending like San Angelo is
800 miles from Dallas.
It's not that far.
It's not that far.
But she feels bad, and they'relike, Don't worry, girl,
absolutely, we're gonna be herefor you.
How's everything going with thefuneral planning?
Well, she says, My mama wantsKristen buried in Albuquerque.
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Mama is so beside herself, she'sprobably sedated.
I know they used to sedate womenquite a bit back in the day.
Her doctor says she can't flyout, they're gonna bury her in
Albuquerque.
Swell and take the baby to theservice.
She wants to be on the planewith her.
It is what it is.
So she's she's walking into thecourtroom thinking about her
dead sister, about to hear somedetails.
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And the first thing she hearswhen the door is open is a very
professional, probablyHarvard-trained lawyer saying,
Now you said she was high as akite.
What does that mean?
Come on, y'all.
It's obviously JR on the stand.
So Cliff had already gone on thestand and he he gave his
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rendition of what happened.
I showed up, I saw Kristen inthe pool.
She was already dead.
I jumped in to save her, saysCliff.
Yeah, that's about it.
They ask if JR was there.
He goes, Yeah, he was upstairs.
They go, Well, who called theambulance?
Cliff says, I called theambulance.
There was a pool, there's aphone by the pool.
I jumped out, called theambulance.
Was JR downstairs by that point?
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Yes, he was.
So JR is on the stand and hesays, Kristen showed up to the
house and she looked a hot mess.
He said, Now she usually wasvery, you know, she was a
fashion icon.
She usually had her stufftogether, but she looked run
over.
I don't know what was going on.
She looked disheveled andwhatnot.
Going on, she was acting crazy.
And the lawyer says, Well, youyou went to answer the phone.
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He goes, Yeah, well, you know,my my wife ran off with my son.
It's no secret that my wife wasrun off and left me.
He was probably only saying thatpart because Suewan just walked
in with her new boo and hisdaddy.
The judge is like, dude, stay ontopic.
What's that got to do withanything?
JR's point is, well, I didn'tcare what she was doing because
I was expecting a phone callabout my kids.
So yeah, I mean, I didn't sayshe was gonna kill him, I just
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said she looked crazy.
Lawyer asked if if he tozzledwith her, if anything happened.
He's like, no, next time I sawher, she was face down on the
pool.
Cliff Barnes was down there withher.
He then throws in the the littlecaveat that he went and took
polygraph tests.
Now, this is not admissible incourt, so the judge tells the
jury to strike that from therecord, but it doesn't matter,
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the damage is done.
Cliff knows what he just did,the leather lawyer guy knows
what he just did.
By putting that statement outthere that no, I didn't tell so
with her, and I even passed apolygraph test that that'll
prove that I didn't, the seed isalready planted.
So people are going to look atyou in a more favorable light,
even if they're not supposed toremember you said that.
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So the toxicology guy comes out,and the long and short of it is
that he feels like she was on PBPCP.
Yeah.
Jen Angel dust in her innersystem.
He goes on to say that thisprobably caused a hallucination.
People were known at this timeto go jumping off the side of
buildings and whatnot.
It can make you depressed.
All this, so it he says that itwas an accident.
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This girl tripped over abalcony, she hit her head on the
side of the pool, fell into thepool, and drowned, but she was
unconscious.
Pam is hearing this for thefirst time, not loving it.
Bobby's hearing it.
He seems to be dealing with it alittle bit better.
But Sue in hearing this is it'sjust is a kick in the diaphragm.
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It hurts real, real, real bad.
It's just absolutely devastatingin every way.
I guess the whole point of thisis that Cliff and JR are no
longer pointing the finger ateach other, although I get the
feeling JR is not telling 100%the truth because he was he was
still holding his bourbon whenCliff was like, help, help, he's
looking up at him.
He was holding his bourbon.
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It reminds me of that scene inComing to America where Eddie
Murphy and Arsenio Hall beat thecrap out of Samuel L.
Jackson for trying to robMcDowell's.
And Jerry Curl Daryl comes over.
He was like, Yeah, I would havehelped both of y'all, but you
know, I have I had a milkshakein my hand.
Something like that.
Like J.R.
couldn't jump in the pool.
He's like, man, I had to answerthe phone and I was holding a
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glass of bourbon.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, I couldn't help.
That clears that storyline outof the way a little bit, and it
frees up the inevitable showdownbetween J.R.
and Sue Ellen.
She's having a real, real roughtime.
No matter how slutty her littlesister was, that's still your
little sister.
Cliff can't catch a break.
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So he leaves the courtproceedings.
Okay, I'm not going to jail.
JR's not going to jail.
It's pretty sucks that she died,but I got a job to attend to.
So he goes over to West Starbecause he was promised a job if
he could nail JR to the cross.
Now he did everything in hispower, and unbeknownst to him,
sweet little sister Afton hadhim drugged so that JR could get
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his hands on the court findings,blaze, blaze.
So Cliff goes to Westar to meetwith JR's banker dude friend,
whose name escapes me at themoment.
Guy tells him in not so manyterms, I offered you a job.
Yes, I offered you a job when Ithought you could bring JR down,
but you didn't.
And quite frankly, I'm not finnapay you to be a loser on my
payroll.
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He's harsh, but he's real.
Cliff is like, well, somebody, Idon't know who, gave JR all of
the evidence.
So, I mean, how is that myfault?
How is that my fault?
Even his little brother thinkshe did all these things.
How is this my problem?
Guys like, I don't know what totell you, homie, but it's not my
problem.
And you're not my problem.
You're definitely not on mypayroll.
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So, good day, sir.
Mr.
Wendell, that's his name.
Mr.
Wendell still has a grudge.
I'm glad that they're bringinghim back up because I it's not
like I had forgotten about him,but it what more could he do?
It seems he still has a um has abone to pick with JR.
We're only two episodes intothis season.
I can only imagine what that'sgonna turn into.
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The bulk of this episode isabout Suelen and JR.
So JR is in Dallas putting allthings in motion.
His only goal is to snatch thatbaby back.
It don't even really seem likehe cares about Sue Ellen one way
or another.
Plus, word's already out on thestreet.
Women are showing up to his jobto interview for secretary jobs,
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only like they want to sleepwith him.
He's already got thatreputation.
He don't really care aboutSwellin, but don't take my son.
I bet it's more of a possessionthing.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not a oh, I'm so in love, Ican't live without my kid.
I'm sure that's some of it.
But it's it's more of a he ismine, he belongs to me, and you
can't have what belongs to me.
He's willing to go to greatlengths to get the kid back.
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Even hiring a PI.
Now, the PI is a man I've seen amillion times before.
I've never seen him this young.
I'm not gonna look up his name,but I wanted to talk really
quickly about the lawyer on thisepisode, an actor by the name of
Lane Smith.
I know you've seen he was in umHappy Gilmore.
No, was he in Happy Gilmore?
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He was in the Mighty Ducks, hewas the other lawyer in my
cousin Vinny.
He's always either a lawyer, amayor, or a villain.
His IMBD reads like villain,villain, super villain, mayor,
lawyer, lawyer, bad lawyer,racist lawyer, super villain,
super racist mayor, etc.
etc.
You can see his face, and you'llbe like, oh, that's exactly
right.
I think he's also funny.
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He played Richard Nixon once ortwice and some other stuff.
Anyway, I I saw him andimmediately thought, dang, I
don't think I've ever not seenyou in the exact same role.
But Hollywood's a small town,you know?
You can be typecast.
Typecast people get paid.
Okay, it's also very clear thatthey're building up this whole
Pam needs a baby and a babyquick thing.
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She's chilling poolside withBobby, and she's she's just kind
of out of it.
She almost seems like she's highor something.
She's not drinking any mommyjuice.
I don't see anything around her,but she is so depressed about
this here baby.
Bobby says, and babe, why don'tyou take like a year off?
We'll get all the best doctors,we'll just really focus on your
womb and all your your care.
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And let's see about gettingpregnant.
She's like, dude, I cannot evenI can't even fathom the thought
of being three months pregnantand losing another baby.
I refuse to do it.
But it's starting to weighreally heavily on her.
So they're clearly setting thisup for something.
And I mean, this isn't, I mean,it's not, it didn't take a
rocket scientist.
I believe Jesse Metcalf.
I I'm assuming that's Bobby andPam's son.
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I'm assuming.
I know he's in the New Dallas,which I've never seen, but he's
on there.
He's dark-headed like them.
I'm assuming that's who that is.
We'll see how he gets here, oneway or another.
Back to Sue Ellen and them.
Unbeknownst to Sue Ellen, thereis a P.I.
watching her every single moveat the Sacred Cross in San
Angelo, Texas.
Unbeknownst to her, but notnecessarily unbeknownst to Dusty
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and Dusty's daddy.
They're on to JR.
Like I said, they are just asrich, they are just as powerful,
they have just as manyresources, and they're not
afraid to use them.
JR, on the other hand, is notgoing to rest.
He's on his Chris Jenner, and hethinks, okay, what other woman
can I exploit?
None other than his secondfavorite somebody's sister to
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sleep with.
Singer Afton.
Yes, that's right.
Afton is getting around.
She is so indebted to andgrateful to have J.R.
Ewing in her life.
After all, he gave her a singingcareer.
She got a used apartment.
She is a lounge singerextraordinaire.
I guess she's blowing up inDallas.
It doesn't seem like it.
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But she's comfortablenonetheless.
So he's like, hey, uh, you thinkyou can make me feel better,
honey?
Honestly, I think the onlyreason the scene is in here is
so that the audience can bereminded that Afton was the one
who woke up Cliff, knocked himout, or whatever, so that those
papers appeared in JR's lap.
JR is really, he is verydepressed in this scene.
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This seems to be one of thefirst times I can recall seeing
him be vulnerable.
He misses the baby.
It seems like in this scene he'sactually thinking about that.
I still feel like it's more of apossession thing, like you're
just not gonna get one over onme.
That's my baby.
But he goes over with theintention of hooking up with
Afton, only he gets sodepressed.
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In doing so, he reminds theaudience how all of these things
came to pass, how he is not inprison during time, and um, why
Cliff Barnes is not hired overat Weststar.
He even gets so depressed thathe ends up calling Ellie.
So we get to see Ellie for thefirst time, and she's still in
Paris.
Ugh, so they're working throughthe Jim Davis thing best they
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can.
Jock is always in another room.
He's busy, he's doing the XYZ,he's still very much alive, just
not on camera.
Let me see if I can speed thisup just a little bit.
When Sue Lynn gets back to SanAngelo, she's been cooped up in
this yacht-sized limousine forabout two, two and a half hours.
She needs some fresh air, sheneeds to get away.
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She she flies out of the carjust so she can have a moment to
herself.
Dusty comes over and she'stalking about Kristen, how their
mother raised them to be whothey are.
She wanted the best for them.
She was known as Sue Ellen'slittle sister until she got to
high school and then she becameher own thing.
She's basically remembering howsmart and how brilliant this
young girl became, and she'sstarting to think a little bit
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more about her own mother andhow she conditioned them to be
women who went after these sortsof men.
Sue Ellen's life has not turnedout the best.
From the outside looking in, ifyou if you compare it to
Kristen, yes, she's alive, yes,she's not on drugs, but she's an
alcoholic.
She has to medicate the pain ina totally different way.
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But she, you know, she read allthe books, she did all the
pageants, she took all the charmschool classes, she aligned
herself with the best men, shemaintained her beauty, her trim
figure, as she says, only to endup fleeing like a thief in the
night to get away from thatlife, to run full throttle away
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from it.
Her sister sort of did the samething, and look how she ended up
woke up dead.
It's not funny, I'm sorry.
But it's that that weird sort ofthing where you can love
somebody and and see the goodparts of them, and it's
sometimes you don't see it untilafter the fact.
Which brings me to the name ofthis episode.
Gone but not forgotten implieswell, it implies a little bit of
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tenderness, and I suppose thetenderness towards Kristen this
episode is that she is gone.
Sue Wellen knows if she maybeshe had a baby, maybe she
didn't.
They're still not really talkingabout that, but uh I tend to
believe she did because she toldmore than one person, she told
the Not Slanding cast that shewas pregnant, so it seems as if
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Suelen is mourning who she couldhave been, and she's having this
empathy towards her because ofwhere Sue Ellen is at this point
in her life.
Like I get it, girl.
I mean, that could have been me.
Could have been me, but thattheir mom really is a villain in
us, if you think about it.
You trained your girls up to bea good wife, and that's it.
I I can't even really blame her.
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Even as that's those words comeout of my mouth, I realize
that's more of a modern thought.
I understand that this she wouldhave been raising them in the in
the 60s and 70s.
We all know things aren'texactly how they are now.
So I get it, but it's all italso really, really sucks.
So later on in the episode, Pamis absolutely beside herself.
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She missed that baby so bad.
She drives down to St.
Angelo, and like I said, shewhen she was sitting by the
pool, she seemed like she was ina trance.
She does not seem to bedrinking, but she's definitely
out of it.
She's not telling people she'sleaving, she's not really
communicating as much.
She is definitely in this weirdfunk.
Sue Ellen is very happy to seeher.
So they're sitting poolside,feeding baby John Ross.
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He's not eating grapes today,but he is eating fruit.
That kid understands you got tokeep your throat moist so that
you don't get sick.
I get it.
He is probably enjoying the lastpiece of naturally organic fruit
in the United States of Americathat grew without having to put
a sticker on it.
And they're they're having agood old time when all of a
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sudden a helicopter comesfloating down.
A helicopter, people.
I thought it was JR.
No, it's Bobby.
Bob's pissed.
Like, what are you doing here,Pam?
She's sitting there shocked,like, what are you what are you
doing here?
He goes, I went to, I'm lookingfor you.
You ain't calling, you ain'tpicking up the phone.
Why didn't you tell anybody youwere coming to St.
Angelo?
She said, Well, damn, I'll behome by dinner.
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That's not what I asked.
Why didn't you let anybody knowyou was leaving?
She's basically like, I thoughtI did.
I don't know why I did it.
Hey, I'm gonna go take this babyupstairs, put him to sleep.
She's still in this weird sortof trance, which leaves Bobby
and Sue Ellen, who's stillwearing her nylon's pool side,
by the way.
It's also weird that nobody'sfreaked out by being in a
swimming pool after they'vefound a dead body in the pool.
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Anyway, Bobby starts to rip intoSue Ellen a little bit.
Like, I wish you hadn't broughtmy wife into this.
You know, she did a B E with thekid.
How is that supposed to foster ahealthy marriage, healthy
relationship?
Sue Wellin's like, first off, itwasn't a B and E.
She just took the kid.
She already lived there, shedidn't break in anywhere.
But I needed my baby.
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You know my baby's better offwith me than he is with your
brother.
Bobby can't really argue that,but nonetheless, he's none too
pleased that his wife has beeninvolved in this.
It's like Sue Ellen, you knowhow ugly, nasty this is about to
get.
She's like, oh well, bring iton.
She can say bring it on withfull confidence because she has
a very powerful family behindher.
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She sends JR a preliminaryhearing situationship, whatever
it's called.
She wants alimony and she wantscustody of the baby.
His plan was to make her lookbad, to make her look
irresponsible.
A drunken woman who didn't wantthe baby ends up stealing them.
Now she's willing, she's messingwith this other man, basically
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using a little sexism in hisfavor.
How does this look?
Oh, a mother running off withanother man and a baby?
That's not a responsible woman.
But the clock is is windingdown.
He it's getting harder andharder to do that with the sort
of support that she has.
But you can't count out JR.
By episode's end, Sue Lynn hopson a helicopter at the the
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almost call it the GoldenCorral, the Golden Ranch.
What the heck is it called?
The Sacred Cross in San Angelo.
And she's flying to DF, no, notDFW.
She's flying out to Loveville inDallas so that she can fly out
to Albuquerque.
That does seem a little bitbackwards, but that's kind of
how things work.
Californians probably understandthis better than most, where you
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might have to go south to gonorth.
I know in Texas you gotta flyeast to go west.
It's it's a weird thing.
She needs to helicopter east tofly out to Albuquerque.
Well, the P.I.
has picked up on that becausehe's watching her every move,
and plus, it's a big helicopter.
Dusty Daddy, Daddy Dusty wishesher well.
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You be safe, you be careful.
Dusty wishes her well.
She makes it to Lovefield, noproblem.
But as soon as she's walkingaround with the baby, two bohos
come up to her and they snatchJohn Ross.
One of the bohos distracts herjust very briefly.
Mrs.
Ewing, hey, I gotta ask you.
And then he covers her mouth andyoinks her off to the side.
The other one picks up the babyand briskly walks off as to not
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alarm John Ross Ewing III.
He doesn't get very far beforehe is quickly surrounded by a
bunch of roughneck cow handsready to stomp him out.
He don't want no smoke.
He really doesn't.
So he gently hands over thebaby.
Turns out that's Dusty and hisdaddy.
They they could smell somethingwasn't right.
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You think they're gonna let thiswoman and her vulnerable child
get on a plane in the middle ofnowhere and fly off to a funeral
while she's grieving and let herdo it all by herself?
Are you crazy?
Absolutely not.
They protect their own.
They are establishing, listen,this is the line in the sand.
We ain't scared of you, JR.
We got time.
We don't have time, we're gonnamake time.
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And it is so powerful, it is socute that Dusty is still in his
four dump things, his braces.
He don't care.
He's gonna hop after his woman.
If he got the limp to get her,that's what he's gonna do.
I respect it.
That's a man.
And his daddy don't play either.
And shout out to the roughneckcowboys who are beating down
people willy-nilly in the middleof an airport.
They don't show the beat down,but I assure you it happens.
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Also, I recognize one of theseguys as an extra on the yellow
rose.
He literally walked off the statand just walked to Southern.
JR's watching this whole thingunfold.
He's disappointed.
Now Dusty's gonna get on theplane with her along with the
Cowboys, and they're all gonnafly to Albuquerque just in case
JR wants to pull another stunt.
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I like it.
I like it a lot.
Very enjoyable episode, but whatwould you call this?
Back in my day, we'd have afterschool special sometimes, or a
very it wasn't after schoolspecial, it was more like a very
special episode.
This feels like they wanted todo that, but I think the reality
is we just we need to move onfrom Chris and let's go ahead
and grieve her.
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Let's set up this us versus themwith JR and the Sacred Cross
people.
Let's make sure the audienceremembers that Afton set up
Cliff, and let's also establishthat Pam wants a baby real, real
bad.
In the bit player department,Donna Culver is settling into
her role as Ray Krebs' wife.
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He's trying to buy her a saddle,not just any saddle, a silver
embossed saddle.
I don't know if I've ever seenthat or not.
My aunt and uncle used to havehorses, and I do recall going to
like the feed stores and thingswith them, and there was this
big, super life-size plastichorse.
I thought it was just a prop,but apparently that's so people
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can try their saddles out.
You sling it over it, then youcan sit on it.
I am so mad that nobody let mesit on that horse.
I was riding the littlecarousels outside, but I didn't
never see any kids on it.
I didn't realize it was a prop.
I'm a little bit upset.
I might go to boot barn, see ifthey got one.
I ain't climbing on no plastichorse, not today, especially not
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in these 17 pajamas.
Anyhow, Lucy and Donna Culverare bonding over the fact that
they are with men who have sortof an aversion to money.
Like, why can't you just be richand pretty and marry somebody?
Why is it such a big deal?
Why does the man have to earnthe money?
And Lucy's like, I know, right?
Why can't they respect us aswealthy heiresses or people who
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inherited?
You know what I'm saying?
Why can't we just be rich?
Donna's like, I know, I know,but listen, girl, if you want
Mitch, don't give up.
See, I liked Ray when he waswhen he was young and fun and
country dumb.
He's just sitting out breathingin calf fumes, kicking up dust.
That's all he wanted to do.
Now he thinks he's a wheeler anddealer because his last name is
Ewe.
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She's not adjusting to Raystarting to come into money.
Lucy's not adjusting to Mitch toMitch's aversion of money.
So they come together andthey're like, okay, we're just
gonna be rich, we're gonna befabulous, and we're gonna stand
by our men.
I can't say that I'm notinterested in this story, but
I'm actually ugh.
It's it's not how do I say this?
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Mitch and Lucy has been too muchback and forth, forth and back.
Whatever happens, happens.
I I'm betting money, she's gonnahave a new boosky in no time.
But when it comes to DonnaCulver, I I really do want to
see how this pans out as Raycontinues to expand in the
business world a little bitmore.
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He's obviously gonna be takingover for Jock because we know
Jock ain't here.
I wonder how long that's gonnalast, though.
Because she she she handled thefact that he got the$3 million
out.
She took that well.
She's even okay with him buyingher the super fancy saddle.
They actually ran into PunkAnderson while they were there.
He was buying a new bolo tie ina suit, and he's telling her
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that her man is about to berich, rich.
They're gonna expand thosehouses in Lubbock.
They're so popular, they'regonna up the price by$30,000.
So seems like money's gonna keeprolling in, and he's gonna be
okay.
Seems to me like Donna's alittle bit uncomfortable with
money, too.
After all, she was married to awealthy man who handled all the
finances, and she just got tokind of she got to sit at his
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feet and live his life withoutactually handling the money.
So I'm curious to see how sheand Ray navigate this.
She doesn't seem like she wouldknow what to do with millions
and millions, but I'm sure shehas a handler or something.
Well, all right, guys.
Thank you so much for joining metoday.
Help me name this this what isthis genre?
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Is this um burying a baddieepisode?
Is this um life lessons of thegrown and sexy episode?
What sort of this feels like itshould be a special because it's
very reflective.
Is it just a different way torecap?
Text me in the show notes, letme know what you think, or you
can reach me via email atsoaplore podcast at gmail.com.
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That's s-o-a-p-l-o-r-eP-O-D-C-A-S-T at gmail.com.
Join me next time as we jumpback into some vintage primetime
soap opery.
In the meantime, in betweentime, keep your head on a
swivel.
Don't ever go to the airportwithout a posse of rowdy,
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